Canon R5 & R6 Review: GOOD Cameras. TERRIBLE Marketing.

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Gerald Undone

Gerald Undone

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The Canon EOS R5 & R6 are great photo cameras with important video improvements over previous models, but they've been marketed incorrectly.
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The Canon EOS R5 & R6 are great photo cameras with important video improvements over previous models, but they've been marketed incorrectly.
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0:00 - Intro & Thesis
0:41 - Disclosure
1:45 - Overheating
4:50 - Line Skipping vs Oversampling
6:09 - Dynamic Range
7:34 - Rolling Shutter
8:05 - Overheating II
9:19 - Resolution Doesn't Matter
10:02 - What Canon Got Right
10:34 - Autofocus
11:02 - 4K120
11:20 - White Balance
11:36 - Battery Life
12:46 - IBIS
13:44 - Manual Focusing
13:53 - Color
14:48 - Zebras
15:03 - High ISO Noise
15:49 - Internal & External Recording
18:11 - Bug Report
19:03 - Audio
19:47 - Photography
21:20 - Who Should Buy These Cameras
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@SonerBaysal
@SonerBaysal 3 жыл бұрын
I cant understand how Gerald Undone is not overheating with this much information.🔥
@JJShankles
@JJShankles 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald's mouth beats the R5 on output bit rate
@daniellove162
@daniellove162 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t built by Canon?
@evan.whobrey
@evan.whobrey 3 жыл бұрын
James Reind underrated comment right there ^
@alex0589
@alex0589 3 жыл бұрын
He records externally!
@BreezeA
@BreezeA 3 жыл бұрын
😂👍🏽
@LoverOfTech
@LoverOfTech 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm Gerald Undone, I am Autofocusing on my career right now
@cloudstorage9928
@cloudstorage9928 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@srijonmondal8842
@srijonmondal8842 3 жыл бұрын
Good one
@skymakai
@skymakai 3 жыл бұрын
Continuously
@peterc3619
@peterc3619 3 жыл бұрын
I’m manually focusing, maybe that’s why my career, photos and videos are in shambles ☹️
@rhykko77
@rhykko77 3 жыл бұрын
"GOOD Cameras. TERRIBLE Marketing" .......... I am in camera sales , and have a couple of decades of professional photography experience. I TOTALLY agree with what you have said .
@therealjimmy5411
@therealjimmy5411 3 жыл бұрын
Agree but I’ll add this. We can’t fully blame the marketing. Canon’s leadership pushed for that marketing and approved it. Canon’s leadership needs to be in serious question and primed for a major overhaul.
@RealTechGeek
@RealTechGeek 3 жыл бұрын
@@therealjimmy5411 Absolutely drain the swamp of those old men! Bringing down the company, we young blood thinking!
@SuperSaf
@SuperSaf 3 жыл бұрын
The detail you cover in your videos is second to none, really appreciate all the info man! Going for the Sony A7 SIII!
@Sanmbar
@Sanmbar 3 жыл бұрын
Does A7S3 takes photos near to Canon's quality?
@user-dh5fp4gw1b
@user-dh5fp4gw1b 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sanmbar jessir
@OwenWanKenobi
@OwenWanKenobi 3 жыл бұрын
O. Jamal The R5 is a better stills camera. A7Siii will take better video
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech 3 жыл бұрын
Owen Pesnell depends though. Having a higher MP only helps when printing. The siii will be better for Astro photographers (to a degree) as while it may capture less stars, it will capture more light and thus have a cleaner image. I think It also has a 16bit sensor vs the 14bit canon sensor. So color performance in raw may be better. If you’re only posting on social media or other digital sites, the 45mp image will be pointless on the canon. Only if you’re printing will it have a real advantage in photos.
@gavingarson2174
@gavingarson2174 3 жыл бұрын
RiceCube Tech Question! What is the better option for concert photography ? I shoot small venues such as rap concerts and solo shows. (Most times it’s a dark environment) . The A7RV or Canon R5?
@mikemuponda1781
@mikemuponda1781 3 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe "undone" doesn't mean "sensei" in Japanese
@nVuFilms
@nVuFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald Undone Camera review : A Technical MASTERPIECE
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done Gerald, great information and well-tested. Calm and sensible conclusions without hype or sensationalism.
@JasonandRachelOlson
@JasonandRachelOlson 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald, I discovered you a few weeks ago and the more I see of your current and past work, the more I feel compelled to say, I LOVE YOU! Your videos reveal a depth of knowledge, a willingness to do painstakingly meticulous research, incredible organization skills, and a deep understanding of how to arrange and present complex information in an easy-to-consume format. And all that still doesn’t include the significant amount of planning that goes into every level of your work. You have to come up with an interesting set of questions just to get the process started, and that’s no easy feat itself! Seriously, you are unique, irreplaceable, and, unfortunately, under appreciated (but not by me!). Just wanted to send you a sincere thank you for all your hard work. I know I’m not alone in saying this, but i comes from the heart: I deeply appreciate you!
@geraldundone
@geraldundone 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jason! That's very kind. Made my day! 🤓🙏
@ashic
@ashic 3 жыл бұрын
Really wish Gerald was into photography as much as he's into video... He's by far the best youtube reviewer out there.
@jmackultra
@jmackultra 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I respect the fuck out of this dude.
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 3 жыл бұрын
Photography means stills and video. He is into photography, he's just not into stills much
@jmackultra
@jmackultra 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisogrady28 no it doesn't
@ashic
@ashic 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisogrady28 To me, photography is about photographs and videography is about videos. I think Gerald also mentions the photography aspect separately in this video. Not that it matters, I think the intent is conveyed regardless of terminology used.
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmackultra It's a common misconception that photography means stills and videography means video. The latter isn't a real term in the industry
@rbrtmllr
@rbrtmllr 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, high praise on your excellent analysis: not just a review.
@AllgoodthingsTv
@AllgoodthingsTv 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the best review of the video function of these cameras I've seen to date, although I would've preferred a little more showing along with the exemplary telling (e.g., more sample videos). Love the incremental f stop adjustments. Here's my question: is the line skipped 4K (non HQ) out of the EOS R5 better than the 4K out of the EOS R (cropped)?
@NomadicAmbience
@NomadicAmbience 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the amount of effort you put into these reviews man! I also like how you explain clearly who the camera his and isn't for. Most reviews I leave still unsure about my purchase, but this is the only video I needed to watch. Many thanks man!
@michaelandrew83
@michaelandrew83 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure I can compare the effectiveness of any review of any kind of product I’ve ever seen to Gerald here. This is mind blowing how he can not only test these very specific tools to their utmost far limits and yet compress and deliver the analysis in such a concise and understandable package. A++ As a note, I am a professional photographer that does almost zero video for work. These cameras were not marketed to me. I don’t need anything new, I’m happy with my DSLR, however I do feel Canon marketing and product highlights in these cameras are very confusing. How can they on one hand, deliver 99% of what people hated about the R yet shoot themselves in the foot by offering features that are somewhat unusable? That’s not typically their MO, I have always looked to canon for their reliability and durability. They should stop trying to be something they are not.
@snazzy
@snazzy 3 жыл бұрын
This is without a doubt the best R5 review on the internet. Period. From beginning to end it is an excellent compendium of information. I’ve still got my R5 on order and I’m excited, but it looks like it’ll end up being less than the “everything cam” we were hoping for.
@KaiTiura
@KaiTiura 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have my R5 and it's crazy good for photos. Haven't had a lot of video time yet, but don't need much video from it, and know all the limitations (especially after this video), so I know what to expect.
@PunkImagin8tionX
@PunkImagin8tionX 3 жыл бұрын
Best R5 review regarding video for sure
@aradhyakumar7383
@aradhyakumar7383 3 жыл бұрын
And as always, stay snazzy. P.S. waiting on your 2020 Hackintosh video since the new iMac 27 is out!
@vtcook
@vtcook 3 жыл бұрын
I agree... and I don’t agree. It is a great review if you care about video. It is not a good review at all if you care about photography.
@hugevibez
@hugevibez 3 жыл бұрын
@@vtcook this is Gerald Undone dude what did you expect?
@bestprato
@bestprato 3 жыл бұрын
The Gerald Undone's Obsessive Canon Overheating Result maybe wrong? See here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hp-qYWN8ndpopqs
@TeamAPS
@TeamAPS 3 жыл бұрын
It's a bit of a shame. I was excited about the R5, but I think it just doesn't seem like it aligns well with my use cases. Great review, Gerald!
@killer0178
@killer0178 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that says things has they really should be said, no ass kissing to brands what so ever. Great job Gerald
@DonovinJones
@DonovinJones 3 жыл бұрын
On behalf of everyone in the photo and video community Thank you
@TechGearTalk
@TechGearTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think Canon marketing overreacted to years of market feedback - and they reacted to the wrong aspects.
@alsteiner7602
@alsteiner7602 3 жыл бұрын
Insightful!!!!👏👏👏👏👏
@peterlemke3468
@peterlemke3468 3 жыл бұрын
Marketing students in the future will be using the R5 & R6 product launches as case studies me thinks.
@sinan.vatansever
@sinan.vatansever 3 жыл бұрын
your reviews are also helpful, especially if one is a true beginner. thanks for your positive comment for a true master of review.
@mathew_pang
@mathew_pang 3 жыл бұрын
Can R6 output 10bit 422 color for FHD through Ninja V ? Any master here know about it ?
@thenightowl5438
@thenightowl5438 3 жыл бұрын
curious too
@LoverOfTech
@LoverOfTech 3 жыл бұрын
13 mins and I feel like now you're the detective of legit usability testing and feedback for the camera scene right now. Excellent work man
@cameraconspiracies
@cameraconspiracies 3 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it, taking the 1 photo to set custom white balance overheats the camera :)
@geraldundone
@geraldundone 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@JF..
@JF.. 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald Undone Wait, what? 😂🤣
@jpemile
@jpemile 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 words can't describe how much I love your humour.
@EmmeandEffe
@EmmeandEffe 3 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it, overheating the camera overheats the camera 📸
@RumourHasitYT
@RumourHasitYT 3 жыл бұрын
Rumour has it !!
@antiseth3964
@antiseth3964 3 жыл бұрын
Their marketing says, “we care about the compact mirrorless video segment.” Their product says, “Buy the EOS Cinema line if you want actual pro video with few compromises.”
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 3 жыл бұрын
The encyclopedia of cameras by Gerald Undone. Seriously good work 👍🏻
@andyakishev
@andyakishev 3 жыл бұрын
This is undoubtedly the best canon r5 and r6 review on the web, leaves no question unanswered staying neutral and unbiased at the same time👏👏👏 Gerald, I can’t stress enough how helpful and important your work is for photographers and videographers out there. Thank you for all your hard work.
@BabyBackManiac
@BabyBackManiac 3 жыл бұрын
Canon should pay you for this much testing and feedback. Great job.
@alexsmedile
@alexsmedile 3 жыл бұрын
I really agree with this statement
@jordanstark292
@jordanstark292 3 жыл бұрын
100000%. The insight offered in this video is incredibly valuable.
@jordanstark292
@jordanstark292 3 жыл бұрын
Bender & Xing - Abel Adventures was thinking the same thing. Get this man on retainer.
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, it is doubtful that Canon wants Gerald's kind of input. You may recall that what Canon really wanted was the slapstick performance of a certain other Canadian of note here on YT who was let into Canon HQ to gush about a pre-pre-production R5.
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Gerald, fantastic high quality and authentic review!
@saadrabia
@saadrabia 3 жыл бұрын
"Recovery cooldown period of 30 to 40 minutes"... And doesn't matter if video or photo mode. Yep, The R5 and R6 have failed, unless Canon is able to fix this through a firmware update.
@djierardi
@djierardi 3 жыл бұрын
Bizarre. If all you need is 4k video, then 8.5 megapixels suffice. why even consider a 45MP camera? If you do need 8k video, then your alternatives are few and good luck with that. Engineering is always about tradeoffs. E.g. there's no way to say that the A7s3 is a "better camera" than an A7r4. They're fundamentally different, making different tradeoffs relative to what current technology permits. Clearly this is not intended to be an a7s3 competitor: its hardware is optimized to handle 45MP frames at a high frame rate. That's going to get hot. if that's not what you need, why pay for the extra hardware? Yes, yes. I'm sure everyone is still looking for that swiss army knife camera. but the demands of a peak-performing hi-res stills camera will always be different from what a video camera wants. Perhaps this is what Gerald is getting at in his review -- this is primarily a stills camera. but again, who would think otherwise?
@warathanuts.1005
@warathanuts.1005 3 жыл бұрын
He said waited for 2 hours in order to recover all shooting time.
@djierardi
@djierardi 3 жыл бұрын
@@warathanuts.1005 but it overheated only lin high-res video mode.
@saadrabia
@saadrabia 3 жыл бұрын
@@warathanuts.1005 True, but he then noted again on the Overheat part II that it might take 30-40 minutes. In both cases it is a bizarre idea!
@saadrabia
@saadrabia 3 жыл бұрын
@@djierardi Actually, he noted that the overheating happens even when shooting RAW photos only. So a mix of RAW and some video at say a wedding would yield disasterous results. Crazy that a company like Canon just completely overlooked this and marketed it with this shortcoming!
@mehdisheriff
@mehdisheriff 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of information this guy's videos have is truly amazing. He manages to turn boring pieces of information into a masterclass worth watching. Well done Gerald
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 3 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect camera review. It covered 100% of every question I would ever have from dynamic range to rolling shutter. Pleaaase keep this up! 😄
@ScreenTeamShow
@ScreenTeamShow 3 жыл бұрын
We get 37C temps outdoors here, so just hoping the A7SIII gives us no problems.
@DelusionalNYC
@DelusionalNYC 3 жыл бұрын
This could be one of the most valuable videos on KZbin when you consider how Gerald is helping people avoid the financial costs and emotional toll associated with spending thousands of dollars on the wrong camera for their needs. It's a product review tour de force. Thank you!
@kustoo
@kustoo 3 жыл бұрын
By far the most detailed review of these cameras so far. Amazing work, Gerald. You are a true professional.
@geraldundone
@geraldundone 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Jacques! Appreciate you. 🤓🙏💜
@SolidBrixStudios
@SolidBrixStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Gerald, really setting yourself up as one of the top camera reviewers on KZbin.
@AllgoodthingsTv
@AllgoodthingsTv 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, agreed!
@MasterOfBasses
@MasterOfBasses 3 жыл бұрын
If not THE best camera reviewer.
@cameronmeetze8153
@cameronmeetze8153 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seeing you here David!
@tombuck
@tombuck 3 жыл бұрын
It’s been said before, but holy cow, you’re so good at what you do! So much hard work went into this and it answers so many questions. All that being said, I still personally love the original R 😁
@dallasholston
@dallasholston 3 жыл бұрын
I SO appreciate what you always have to say, Gerald. Your reviews are some of the most important there is in the KZbin space!
@JeanBenoitLesage
@JeanBenoitLesage 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you decided to specialize in technical reviews - always so good!!
@hectorohh
@hectorohh 3 жыл бұрын
Don't usually watch 20+ minute videos from start to finsh, however, this was so well done and informative I thoroughly enjoyed it!
@supadev.
@supadev. 3 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed to you because I watched a couple truly honest reviews. No one else gets into that much detail like you and keep it still 100% understandable. Thank you.
@ClayWong
@ClayWong 3 жыл бұрын
Great video review mate as per usual mate! Always trust you to provide the most comprehensive videos on KZbin!
@3BMEP
@3BMEP 3 жыл бұрын
Yup.👍🏻
@jamiewindsor
@jamiewindsor 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I'm going to get the R5 because I like the look of Canon images and I need dual card slots because I photograph weddings (and cards have failed on me before). For video it'll suit my needs. I make KZbin videos in 1080p. I'm not about to shoot a feature film with it.
@peshrawable
@peshrawable 3 жыл бұрын
We still watching your videos if it is 480p.
@parthadeepbera479
@parthadeepbera479 3 жыл бұрын
The great artist replying to the great reviewer . Thank you !!
@GreenhornPhototaker
@GreenhornPhototaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@peshrawable So true!
@Tristan_Judkins
@Tristan_Judkins 3 жыл бұрын
Does the R5 shoot 1080? I didn't think they included 1080 at all in the R5?
@philipbloom
@philipbloom 3 жыл бұрын
Brace man!
@JonPais
@JonPais 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald switched things up and did a pre-emptive livestream first this time. ❤️ Great review as always.
@SooTanGoo
@SooTanGoo 3 жыл бұрын
the intro jingle is my favorite thing to hum while im showering, watering flowers or trying to cut out background noise while taking a No.2
@SamHolland
@SamHolland 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute saviour! The last bit on "who should buy these cameras" is crucial! Thanks again Gerald! :D
@TheEverydayDad
@TheEverydayDad 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald mentioned 30p! This is his best video to date!
@SlideWreckDan
@SlideWreckDan 3 жыл бұрын
Totally unbiased comment
@geraldundone
@geraldundone 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, Gary... 🤣😜
@kylemeshna
@kylemeshna 3 жыл бұрын
The Everyday Dad your 30p obsession is one of the better things about KZbin
@myopictopics7258
@myopictopics7258 3 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video👍, so much information, conveyed so effectively. Sometimes I am amazed at how fast you actually talk (border line micro machine man) with so much detail. Do you practice your scripts ahead of time, or are these just written and given with minimal rehearsal?
@vmakineni
@vmakineni 3 жыл бұрын
I've been hooked from the first minute. To hold someone's attention for a full 23 mins, all while delivering the amount of detail you did is truly outstanding!! Gerald, you are currently the No. 1 camera reviewer on KZbin!
@jackcorthine5167
@jackcorthine5167 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, somebody said it. Canon backed themselves in to a corner with such a video-centric marketing campaign that it was destined to fail as soon as those video limitations kicked in.
@jambononi
@jambononi 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the more I see about this camera, the more it's just an EOS R that isn't really really limited, as opposed to the God camera that's 5 years ahead of it's time. If you actually strip it back to what most people will get from it, it's a 4k average camera with slightly awkward but ok high frame rate options. Which is fine, if that's what it said on the box. But it takes a lot of digging to find out what any of that actually means. Which I think is pretty bad of Canon tbh.
@chuiwyjustin
@chuiwyjustin 3 жыл бұрын
James Travis I disagree. I have the R5 and it’s an excellent camera which is more photo oriented than for video. It has a great balance of ergonomics, resolution and autofocus capability that puts it miles ahead of the EOS R, which was frankly a shit camera for any purpose. The R5’s video capabilities are pretty good for non-feature length purposes, and getting to shoot 8K is a bonus.
@jambononi
@jambononi 3 жыл бұрын
@@chuiwyjustin fair enough! I think the marketing really did rub me the wrong way though because (maybe because I'm insane and need to chill but also) as a pro videographer the R5 just looks like a massive red flag of 3 to 4 years of constant frustration on jobs. And yeah the photo side is awesome, the auto focus looks great and I've no doubt people will get good results. Just don't sell it to people who will get burned by a camera that will fail on a job because they recorded 60p for too long after taking photos or something. I think my point is, it might have been better not to have the features at all or a hard limit of 5 mins so no one messes up a shoot because of it. 🙃 anyway!
@chuiwyjustin
@chuiwyjustin 3 жыл бұрын
@@jambononi if your main gig is doing video, the R5 isn't for you. The Sony A7S3 is better suited for you. But if what you do is mainly photography, and you take high quality 4k/8k footage (clips) occasionally, the R5 is great.
@jambononi
@jambononi 3 жыл бұрын
@@chuiwyjustin well the point is its marketed as a primarily a video camera. And the expectation, based on who buys hybrid cameras is that they function as expected. That's the point really. A high end hybrid camera works. This doesn't. The hq is fine if you're literally playing around with it for fun or randomly taking one or two clips a week, but who actually does that? A camera needs to be able to record for an hour, thats where most hybrid video sits, in weddings, events, and interviews. The point im making is youre saying that as if it's obvious, but its not. Unless you watch multiple videos and follow tech channels, you won't know that the camera will be an on set disaster. So its very frustrating and people seem to think its fine but its not. Loads of people will get fucked over by this.
@nickl224
@nickl224 3 жыл бұрын
I lol'd at The Verge headline. Professional journalism at it's finest.
@blazeboy777
@blazeboy777 3 жыл бұрын
I like the title :D first 4k cameras weren't better than this one is with 8k :D and yet everyone promoted them :D Is canon's 4k 120p better than a7rIV's 1080p 120? Does a7rIV offer 4k 60p? I am an owner of r7IV and it looks like R5 eats that camera for the breakfast. Now Sony released 12mp pure video camera that cannot shoot 6k and yet they try to compare video only camera to the hybrid wet dream camera with high mpx like a7rIV. I would praise sony if they made 20mp sensor in a7sIII. For video a7sIII is just a cinema camera in mirrorless camera body and everyone is clapping their hands as they put flip lcd, while my a7rIV has a backscreen that has less pixles than a price of a camera. Same goes to that beautiful screen which has a moire when I focus and it looks like crap compared to the eos R.
@gioseisa
@gioseisa 3 жыл бұрын
@@blazeboy777 The R5 is more of a hybrid camera in which Canon threw the kitchen sink at. Good at photos and videos with some limitations (though like what Gerald said, they marketed it more as a video camera). The a7R IV on the other hand is a stills first camera that does good video. I'd say the a7 IV that might come out later this year would be a more comparable camera to the R5 because it is a hybrid camera.
@tobinfrost2517
@tobinfrost2517 3 жыл бұрын
Gion Seisa the A7riv is the proper comparison for the R5
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech 3 жыл бұрын
Tobin Frost but it’s almost a year old, and doesn’t come with the same video features. For sharpess it’s better (higher res) but it’s worse than the eosr5 in lowlight, and has none of the same video codecs
@tobinfrost2517
@tobinfrost2517 3 жыл бұрын
RiceCube Tech it’s still the same class of camera doesn’t matter how old or what’s in it . They are in the same category . Like the R6 is the A7iii and soon to be A7iv category. And when Canin releases a R1 to replicate the 1dx line that will be with the A9 line You do understand camera types and cameras categories right cause it doesn’t seem so.
@iamthejtm
@iamthejtm 3 жыл бұрын
Your wrap up at the end was so well crafted and said. I feel the same way. Also I am happy with my R5, and in the past week I have dug into it and come to just about all the same conclusions you have when it comes to the quirks and settings. Thanks for your in depth tests. They will help me use my camera better!
@SammyKD.
@SammyKD. 3 жыл бұрын
I love your detailed analysis on every aspect🙌 I also love how you care about the consumer needs of the ones watching your videos. Excellent work 🙌
@shammyh
@shammyh 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Appreciate all the obsessive testing... Once again, your reviews are the definitive technical analysis. And moreover, I trust that when you make a conclusion or summarization, you've done the leg work to back it up. Never stop getting undone!
@Revan89
@Revan89 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible thorough, practical and objective. Plus some humor here and there. Gerald, you are doing this KZbin thing so well. You have no competition.
@rgarciamainou
@rgarciamainou 3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always Gerald! I wish more reviews would, like yours, focus on get what you need, instead of hyping specs.
@LIJ
@LIJ 3 жыл бұрын
Another stellar review - so so good. Thank you for the time and effort you put into that!
@christianpokrywka9054
@christianpokrywka9054 3 жыл бұрын
Best damn video. All the mic drops. Thank YOU for all the thorough testing. You are an invaluable asset to the community.
@ephektz
@ephektz 3 жыл бұрын
Recording your ad on the camera was genius.
@TheOgach
@TheOgach 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning review ! 👏🏻 Well done ! I just wonder: any overheating issue using 1080p modes? Yes, some of us still us this resolution... 😅 Thanks a lot!
@ramonbril
@ramonbril 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, so much work has been put in it and the information here is great.
@MaxRovensky
@MaxRovensky 3 жыл бұрын
The way you make me listen to your sponsor spots are admirably despicable. I respect your skills.
@stopthefomo
@stopthefomo 3 жыл бұрын
Since 4K60 external has no overheating, Doesn’t this make the R5 perfect for studio KZbin production considering it’s subject to compression once uploaded anyway?
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube 3 жыл бұрын
It depends what you mean by "perfect", the 4k60 is using line skipping, so you don't get a very detailed 4k image. It should look pretty good once downscaled to 1440p though.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 3 жыл бұрын
SwitchRich It really does depend what you shoot. For people and shallow depth of field it’s not that noticeable but for hard lines like buildings, cars etc and deep depth of field things then a line skipped image can look noticeably soft. You can also notice that lack of crispiness around eye glints, moire can be a problem etc.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 3 жыл бұрын
SwitchRich Your confusing compression with bit depth and whether a camera line skips has nothing to do with either. A camera can line skip, have not the sharpest image, but if it’s 10 bit 422 and then you’re not going to see colour banding. If it’s highly compressed you might see artifacts on leaves rustling in the wind but actually you’ll see less problems than you’d see on a more detailed image using the same compression scheme. Unless we’re talking banding in stills which is caused by electronic rather than mechanical shutter.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 3 жыл бұрын
SwitchRich That’s not compression. That’s 8 bit colour. The only time compression will affect that is if it’s crap compression (which is unlikely on most cameras these days) or if you push a grade far enough to see macroblocking. And once again, compression has zero to do with line skipping. Of course 8 bit colour is a form of compression (well not really - you’re just not recording data because it’s not available in an 8bit camera) but I assume by compression you are referring to bit rate and codec compression i.e. LongGOP or all I and data rate? These things have no bearing on colour gradients.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 3 жыл бұрын
@SwitchRich Sorry - my original comment was about what images look worse with line skipping not compression. Go back and check. And smooth gradients would apply whether the image was line skipped or not. I never mentioned KZbin compression at all - and yes currently KZbin only supports 8 bit. If you want 10 bit use Vimeo. And once again - zero difference between a line skipped image and down converted image - both will suffer from gradient issues using KZbin compression if the conditions are right. I was always talking about onboard compression that cameras use and I stand by the fact that will not make one iota of difference to gradients. Unless we're talking about the A7S3 which actually has a choice of 8bit and 10bit but then why would you ever shoot 8bit?
@mfmg1000
@mfmg1000 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I really enjoy how you break it down at the end. I've been a Canon EOS shooter since 1989 with the EOS 620. Now that I'm shooting more video, I've been wanting a mirrorless that is focused for video. After seeing Phillip Blooms A7s III review and now your video, I'm considering my first Sony camera purchase... crazy.
@soundanswer
@soundanswer 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, stellar review. The Buy/Don’t buy examples at the end are frigging amazing. You should make that data into a table that can be shared as an image/tweet/insta/whatever. You are a gem in the community.
@JasperTordilla
@JasperTordilla 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Gerald undone, and now i'm overheating.
@georgiivanov4739
@georgiivanov4739 3 жыл бұрын
*Gerald Canondone
@liangzhao9378
@liangzhao9378 3 жыл бұрын
The physics-defining overheating and the long cool-down time really seem to be a software limitation at this point. Especially considering the fact that cool-down time is not affected by ambient temp. Perhaps this should be considered as a "feature" for protecting Canon's pro cine cameras.
@tech-utuber2219
@tech-utuber2219 3 жыл бұрын
No, all of the symptoms suggest thermal insulation of the internals with respect to conditions outside of the camera body.
@allend6137
@allend6137 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not that deep.. It’s simply the effect of the CRIPPLE HAMMER! Just Canon doing what they do. It’s all intentional. I can’t believe people are falling fo this 🤦🏻‍♂️. Canon laughs at you all 😂😂😂😂😂
@justaviewer111
@justaviewer111 3 жыл бұрын
Now I wish I could have all of that time back I spent watching everyone else's diatribe about these two cameras. This video was by far the best!! Thanks!!
@deathbyvideo1620
@deathbyvideo1620 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, dude. Easily the most informative and straight forward I've seen regarding these cameras. All three others talk about is the video side of things. It's great to hear about how awesome they are for photography. Im a hybrid shooter, but more focused on stills recently and will definitely be getting the R6. But just in case thre video really is a handicap, I'm gonna keep my GH5 on hand
@tbreit
@tbreit 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, excellent, excellent testing methodology and reasonable conclusions! I give you my salute! (from an anal, German-American, Electrical Engineer). An 'Iron Law" of business: A truly great, product driven company has more Engineers on staff than Marketing and Sales departments.
@JakeSloan
@JakeSloan 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review and dead on. Thanks for all your time and effort on these.
@tubevandaan
@tubevandaan Жыл бұрын
Always respectful, always to the point! Thx so much! Your a true safe haven; clear, unbiased and very thorough testing...what a time spend...to find these conclusions. Undone from all marketing strats. Bare bottom line of a respectful truth....and canon should be very thankful for your insights.
@stevecarver9179
@stevecarver9179 3 жыл бұрын
Well done. You squeeze a lot into a short time. Clearly you do thorough testing, and carefully write a script. I appreciate your focus on video features as that is most important to me.
@captaintendean4116
@captaintendean4116 3 жыл бұрын
The man! The myth! The legend! In Gerald, we trust!
@BasicFilmmaker
@BasicFilmmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. You are the camera review king IMHO. p.s. Please tell me you script these first. If you don’t, please lie. 😎
@bioliv1
@bioliv1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, never pre-order a camera before Undone is Done!
@KevinBasicFilmmakerUnscripted
@KevinBasicFilmmakerUnscripted 3 жыл бұрын
@@bioliv1 LOL! True that! ^^^
@Revan89
@Revan89 3 жыл бұрын
@@bioliv1 I feel there is a catch phrase around that idea
@petermclennan6781
@petermclennan6781 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. You are an incredibly hardworking KZbinr. Fantastic job in all respects. If I were still shooting, I'd wish I had you as a DIT.. Also, you definitely win on the "AH rri" vs "AIR rri" pronunciation. I've been hanging out with the wrong crowd all this time. : ) In return, It's "PewJET" systems, not PEW JAY". :) Puget Sound is a body of water near Seattle. Keep 'em coming. Your depth of understanding is impressive and contagious.
@1young-geezer
@1young-geezer 3 жыл бұрын
REMARKABLY well put together Gerald. You put it in a nutshell. I've been watching you progress through the Canons and Sony A7s III, and this video just puts the cherry on top. Thanks. I'll bookmark this specific video for re-watching when my R5 arrives - if ever! Pre-orders will certainly take a while to meet the product sloooow availability - but I don't blame anything or anyone - just hope my day comes, very excited. I'm a stills shooter, and am over the moon w/ your assessment regarding all things photographic.
@LuisGomes.
@LuisGomes. 3 жыл бұрын
This video vas 100% perfect! well done... I just wanted to tell you because you deserve it... Gracias por tu tiempo (Thanks for your time) doing this video,,, it is the best review!
@ilkoallexandroff
@ilkoallexandroff 3 жыл бұрын
I’m all about photography, and the R5 is a great comeback from Canon! Cheers from Japan!
@SteveMorton
@SteveMorton 3 жыл бұрын
This sort of detailed and honest review is why I'm subscribed to this channel, even though I'm mainly a stills photographer. Gerald tells it as it is. Thank you sir for your hard work.... and for not leaving out the stills photographer :)
@tim1398
@tim1398 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content and presentation, factual, clear and informative (as always). Only one nit, the backlight kept turning into an "elbow key light" and was a bit distracting.
@ZachAshcraft
@ZachAshcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible helpful. I’m a photographer who occasionally shoots video. I’m happy with 1080p and occasional 4k. The R6 is the camera for me
@ivankiefer3886
@ivankiefer3886 3 жыл бұрын
Me too but im not happy with the 20mp I wish for the EOS r 30 mp into the r6.
@saadrabia
@saadrabia 3 жыл бұрын
If you are mainly into 1080p and some occasional 4K, there are better options than these two cameras. The fact that they overheat when shooting RAW photos and still need up to 40 minutes of recovery time is absolutely disastrous for any type of photographer.
@ZachAshcraftPhotography
@ZachAshcraftPhotography 3 жыл бұрын
Saad Rabia I’m mainly into photography. So I’m fine with the video limitations
@iandetenma
@iandetenma 3 жыл бұрын
These 20 minutes was soo good that I'm speechless... 22:45 wise words mann.... very wise...
@dance2jam
@dance2jam 3 жыл бұрын
I currently do not shoot Canon or shoot video, so was surprised that the video was really video-centric. Wish that was in the tagline. That said, appreciate all the time and effort you put into your assessment as well as your well thought out reviews. Awesome job. I did watch Fernando's video days ago and I can see why you referenced him. Thanks for taking your time to put this production and review together.
@bentheremedia3011
@bentheremedia3011 3 жыл бұрын
I'm mad that I didn't find your channel earlier. You are hands down the BEST camera review person on the internet. Thank you so much for taking the time to put these together and for making them some detailed!
@RE3DT
@RE3DT 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald is the cleverest person I don’t know.
@patmasangkay
@patmasangkay 3 жыл бұрын
Probs the most helpful comprehensive review I've seen of the cameras. Thanks for thinking of it from a needs and system investment POV.
@samh1432
@samh1432 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gerald! This was really in depth and the final summary really helped me deciding between the r6 and the r5, for someone who uses a 90D I really love the 4k 24p and 1080 120p for my entry into Filming wildlife, the quality is insane and love the slow motion especially for fast moving birds. As much as I would love to buy the r5, I can't help but think that if I'm going to keep the 90D as a second camera and backup anyway, I personally really don't need the r5 as a replacement for slow motion since as far as I know there is no limit on the 90D apart from no continuous autofocus in 120p. I wish they hadn't advertised it as a video camera then I would have more than likely gone straight towards the R6 as the it most definitely fills my photography needs and has a little extra video specs on the side.
@aregal
@aregal 3 жыл бұрын
This was a thorough review and plowed through the technical challenges (and benefits). You’re correct. Making an informed decision prior to purchase is very important but it’s also important to know what one’s filmmaking needs are. Having used the 5D4, R, 1Dx2, and 1Dx3 for work, the R5 was the exact camera I’ve been waiting for; fullframe 10-bit 4:2:2 4K recorded internally in at least 29.97fps in a light weight mirrorless body with Canon Log 1. You’re right, 8K raw, 4K120, and 4K60 are certainly nice perks and Canon May have over sold the R5 as an 8K machine but for my day in and day out needs, filming talent in fullframe 4K at 23.98 with a small weathersealed factor is what pays my bills. I’m have no doubts that the A7siii will be a wonderful camera but my employer and I helm a Canon ecosystem. Our bodies, lenses, batteries and media all work in harmony.
@maruwaanmoses
@maruwaanmoses 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the X-T4 today and ran a similar runtime test. These were the results: 4K 60fps at 200 Mbps recorded for 42 mins then shutdown with temp warning. I restarted the recording immediately after the record limit twice. 4K 24fps at 400 Mbps - filled up the 128gb with no overheating. Restarted the recording after time limits. No overheating in any of the 1080p modes. One more thing, the new battery lasted for 42 mins of 4K 60fps and 36 mins 4K 24 fps in total continuously. The camera was in boost mode with the IBIS enabled. I also ran my XT3 at the same time and noted it was consistently less warm than the XT4. Power consumption wise I used 5 batteries on the XT3 vs 2 batteries on the XT4.
@NoTicket
@NoTicket 3 жыл бұрын
So there are two possible explanations for Canons heat recovery times: 1. Canon has placed a software limitation on the recovery time to lower the operating time following a heat warning. 2. Canon has created a space time barrier surrounding the camera that prevents heat energy from leaving the dimensional planes in which the camera exists. Maybe it’s a mixture of the two.
@jaysanchez4407
@jaysanchez4407 3 жыл бұрын
All electronics have a central processing unit that is designed to protect itself from extreme heat
@NoTicket
@NoTicket 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Sanchez hey Jay, yes I know. I agree with you on that. The problem is that the laws of physics are being defied through some mechanism which prevents cooling the camera externally with any real benefit. This camera seems to have the thermal characteristics of a Yeti cooler, rather than a 750g camera with how well it retains heat and resists cooling. Many have reported already that when the video “overheated” the camera is cool to the touch, and the fact that leaving the camera fully open, placing ice packs on it, make no difference means something weird is going on.
@germandolgin
@germandolgin 3 жыл бұрын
3. canon tried to sell their garbage
@allend6137
@allend6137 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called the Cripple Hammer
@eusenjo
@eusenjo 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they insulated the camera so well from the outside heat that as a downside the heat inside is difficult to dissipate. Tony N. said that according to it’s test the overheating time doesn’t change so much when the camera is exposed to sunlight, meaning that probably is very sealed against heat.
@KPGuitarStudios
@KPGuitarStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@Gerald Undone you made the perfect video, seriously. You said everything important, answered everything important and gave the most useful perspective possible. Your rock buddy!
@ECPUz
@ECPUz 3 жыл бұрын
This is how to do a camera review/comparison. Subbed. And good to see another Canadian KZbinr interested in tech :D
@bennybbergeron
@bennybbergeron 3 жыл бұрын
Next Intro: "I'm Gerald Undone and I am naturally a very pink person"
@ogonzilla
@ogonzilla 3 жыл бұрын
You can sleep now!!! 😁
@geraldundone
@geraldundone 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks, Omar!
@ogonzilla
@ogonzilla 3 жыл бұрын
Gerald Undone This video was perfect 👌🏼.
@iangc6799
@iangc6799 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an excellent review. As an early adopter, I ordered my R5 on a 'wing and a prayer'; however still photography, and not video, is my artform. I am reassured by your opinion that, for a still photographer who already owns quality Canon glass (tick for both), this camera is a good choice. I have just charged the batteries, and will start exploring tomorrow. Looking forward to learning more from you in the future. Best wishes, Ian (Gold Coast, Australia).
@_tographer
@_tographer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Really valuable information to know.
@samsote
@samsote 3 жыл бұрын
"Hi I'm Gerald Undone, and I love the smell of cameras in the morning"
@davidlongenecker9414
@davidlongenecker9414 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I'm gonna say it, but for me, the Sony is looking like a much better option
@jeni719
@jeni719 3 жыл бұрын
Camera, like any electronics, change so fast that what ever you buy looks ancient in 3 years. I was not impressed with Sony 3 years ago with the A7II, a camera I would have hated, but not with the A7III the best on the market.
@digitalvizun5678
@digitalvizun5678 3 жыл бұрын
I know...very tempting.
@davidlongenecker9414
@davidlongenecker9414 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeni719 very true! I bought my gh5 a while ago and now it's left in the dust with all these full frame 4k 120 cameras. But at a certain point, I'm held back by the gh5, and the a7siii looks like it solves a lot of issues
@alex0589
@alex0589 3 жыл бұрын
That’s because it is...
@derekv6479
@derekv6479 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine. Goodness I'm so glad I could give two s**** about video.
@arranpbrown
@arranpbrown 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for your review for the last couple of weeks. Fantastic, as usual! So in-depth and clear - Cheers Gerald! 👌
@MattBeardsley
@MattBeardsley 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for this! Lots to think on while I wait for an R5 preorder to roll in
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