Canon RF 800 review - Pro results for wildlife!

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The Canon RF800 is an odd one. It has a very limited f11 aperture but it's an 800mm prime, it's sharp and it has great image stabilisation which is fantastic for hand-held filming. Something you won't do on many long range telephoto lenses. Try finding a lens that can do what this lens can but with a wider aperture - you won't!
This lens is best suited for birders who are out trekking the land in search for new sightings. But it's also a fun zoom lens to create interesting sharp 'compressed' compositions. A budget zoom lens like the Sigma or Tamron 150-600 is probably a better option for 'all round' shots but the RF800 and it's smaller brother the RF600 may focus better and give you sharper more reliable results. However, that's at the cost of less shallow a depth of field and around 3000 more iso!
00:00 Intro
02:04 Good example of speed
02:45 Brightness example
07:31 Compactness
12:21 Depth of field
15:50 Comparing it to the Sigma 150-600
21:05 Using the lens for birding
25:45 Other alternatives
29:40 More birding with the lens
31:05 Conclusion

[@Stefan1968ful]

I had quite a negative view on the Canon RF 800mm f/11 - mainly as I could not imagine an f/11 lens could produce anything useable for me. I am into Wildlife, professionally and I usually use a Canon EF 600mm 4.0 III together with a Canon EOS R5. And yes, I was quite a bit shocked positively. Why? Because at good light the image quality isn't that bad at all. And it is super lightweight, the combo of Canon RF 800mm f/11 + Canon EOS R5 weights about 2kg. That is nothing. The autofocus is also decent. So what do you want more for this price? For me it is nice addition to my Canon EF 600mm 4.0 III, not a replacement. It is a lens I can take with me basically anytime. Well done, Canon!

[@HuFilms]

Well said. I totally agree. At the end of the day, theres no other 800 prime out there that come near it for the price. Maybe Sigma might make an f8 or something but for now this does me just fine.

[@michaelsmith-rk4de]

Gear snob

[@BrentHall]

Man, not sure how I just barely found your channel, but that was definitely the best review of this lens out there!!! (way better than mine, 😅😂) I get a lot of negativity coming at me when I do my wildlife videos with this lens, but it's all from people who've never used it and just want to be keyboard warriors. I definitely agree that it has a lot of flaws, the worst for me is the lack of weather-sealing, but that light weight and stupid good sharpness makes up for it in my book. The production value and effort you put into this is fantastic and I definitely subbed! Also, your appreciation for tea is most excellent!

[@HuFilms]

Hey Brent, thanks a lot, that's a great comment to get. I actually watched some of your videos already and really enjoyed them. Good music choice too! I've subbed to you just there, I should have before. Lol on the tea, I drink so much of it I gotta pee like every half hour! 😂

[@BrentHall]

@Hugh Sweeney And here I thought I was the only KZbinr out there drinking that much tea! 😆

[@GallicGarlic]

Keyboard warriors talk in vaîn When going in the shop, they count their dosh and realise this 800mm lens is their best option

[@mhensen1]

Ha, followed Brent first

[@IdrisFashan]

Your videos are awesome, Brent. I’ve made several buying decisions based on your experiences and you’ve never let me down. Also: The way you interrupt yourself talking to camera when something cools swings by your view is EXACTLY what every birder/birding couple goes through every day… man, my wife and laugh every time

[@ericbrowne8279]

Woah. Definitely a change of pace of style and flow from every other photography channel I watch; and I’m all the better for it mate! Subbed, keep up the serene content.

[@HuFilms]

Thanks Eric. That means a lot. I kinda went for a more natural video with this one and let it go a bit longer than normal as I felt the purists (yourself included) would enjoy the longer format.

[@Josh_Sattin]

This was so much more than a lens review. Really enjoyed it Hugh!

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot Josh, yeah, it was a journey making this vid!

[@joeymccallion]

Always love seeing more Irish Photography KZbinrs. Great video Hugh, keep it up

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot Joe, appreciate the comment. Hope all is well.

[@Z_EOS]

Ah hello there buddy 😉

[@joeymccallion]

@@Z_EOS 😆

[@Leosooter]

Thanks for the in depth review. I've been using the Tamron 150-600 G2 and while it's an excellent lens, it is pretty heavy, and I tend to leave it behind unless I know I will be taking long shots of wildlife. I just ordered the RF 800, and I'm hoping it will be small enough to pack along on longer hikes. It doesn't matter how great the bokeh on a lens is if you left it in your car because it was too heavy to pack along. I do applaud Canon for taking a chance on these lenses. Obviously a fixed f/11 isn't going to be for everyone, but I wish more of the big companies would produce these long-range entry level lenses. I hope it opens the door for more people to try wildlife photography.

[@declanmurphy1006]

Great vid. The robin "little bastard" moment had be cracking up!

[@HuFilms]

ha ha, thanks a lot, we gotta include humor somewhere! It was actually a rock pipit too.

[@juliangreaves4727]

Well Hugh, I just got in from my first walk out with my new RF800, which turned up this afternoon. I’ve had all the same reservations about it that everyone else has had but I have to say, I had some fun using it and I reckon, under favourable conditions, I’ll get some good shots with it. I’ve watched many videos on it but I reckon, yours was pretty much my favourite. Best, Julian

[@HuFilms]

Thats great to hear Julian, glad you enjoyed the vid. Yeah, I knew what I was getting myself into also. Sometimes the image isnt as rich as what I'd get with the 150-600 but I'm nailing more shots of BIF in focus and I have crisper images on the whole.

[@martinesper1]

I'm really glad I discovered this video, and I appreciate you creating it. The drone footage flying over the areas you explored was a highlight for me. I've been considering getting a set of drones in the future to serve as security, possibly triggered by motion sensors to do reconnaissance flights on demand. It's great to see potential locations beforehand if it's helpful. Additionally, I'm curious about where you typically sell your compositions. As an enthusiastic hobbyist, I hope to dedicate more time to improving my skills in capturing great shots.

[@noelfitzmaurice2620]

Great video Hugh , great locations , lovin it .

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot Noel. Appreciate it!

[@gman5375]

Cheers Hugh! Top review

[@KhasisLieb]

super interresting!! Thanks a lot for this review!

[@kaix5777]

Super beautiful review. Really felt like you're there doing the bird walk with you. 15:13 best of the series

[@twofoldfilmhouse2037]

Not into photography but honestly I see the appeal, very nice, loved the cathedral shot from your insta 👍🏼 great video boss

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot, I appreciate the comment. Glad u liked it!

[@nigelseviour4281]

You live in a lovely area of the world and I enjoyed your review as it was thought provoking and informative Thank you for a very balanced review as you have covered the costing of the lenses and that helps photographers with limited budget

[@gregoryrogalsky6937]

Good lesson to get people in the long lens game. Nice review. Subscribed

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot!

[@dalefuller9953]

I enjoyed the video. I am in the market for a Canon R5 and I am trying to make up my mind on a zoom/telephoto lens. The information you give here has really helped. Thanks.

[@HuFilms]

Good, glad you liked it. The RF 800 is very wildlife specific. Thought he Sigma and Tamron 150-600 may not be as convenient and light, they would probably be better options if you want to shoot more stuff.

[@MrSimpsonville]

@@HuFilms Good job on the video! I have not done much video, will start now. I have both the Sigma c and the 800 f11 for my R5. I originally planned to just buy the 800 this Spring, but could not find it in stock anywhere. I decided to buy the Sigma 150-600 for the speed and versatility of the zoom. I also purchased the Sigma 1401 1.4 TC. I enjoy the Sigma, but decided to put an order in on the 800 at B&H and they finally received stock a few weeks ago. I like both lenses, the Sigma for the zoom, but the 800 for the weight and sharpness. For now I plan on keeping both lenses.

[@HuFilms]

@@MrSimpsonville Nice one Ed. I use both also. the 800 is better for birds in flight unless they're fairly close in which case it's hard to get them in frame and inside the focus box. There is a shortage on the RF800 lenses for sure.

[@ShiftyScientist]

Great video horse, love the casual swearing aswell. Looking at picking up R5 and 800mm this year currently weighing up r5 vs r6 before I make the purchase.

[@HuFilms]

Ha ha, cheers. Big difference in price. The r5's pixel count is miles ahead for wildlife but the R6 might give you a cleaner image in lower light.

[@TheJMCrecords]

Thank you very much for sharing your videos. I follow them with interest.

[@andersonboy620]

Good advies man, thanks!

[@RogerZoul]

I definitely enjoyed the style of this video. I also enjoy going out with the “impossible lens” to see if one can actually get decent shots with such a thing. It frankly is a fun lens to use and it being so lightweight is the main reason for that, along with the very decent IQ. And I have gotten some nice background blur with mine as when you get near MFD the 800 mm is stronger than the f11 by a lot, more so if the background is not super close. Another thing about the lens is that it is so lightweight that you can pair it will the 1-500 on another r5 and carry two rigs, something i would not do with my f4 lenses.

[@HuFilms]

yeah, thats a very good point. The lens really is a great piece of kit. So light and 'easy' as you say.

[@raulraul7715]

Brilliant video with details 👏👍😎😊. Thank you.. Just subscribed 😊

[@tiagoto]

Great review!

[@roscografik]

Wow great video, this is exactly what should be called a real condition test ! Thanks

[@mikegrok]

Try using the "Better Beamer" flash extender on a camera flash combined with a long lens near dusk in an area with lower humidity. It will focus the light into an area that is good for a 500mm lens. In high humidity areas, I would but the flash on a tripod about 15 feet away so that I could shoot the subject without shooting through the illuminated atmosphere.

[@ggabovich]

Great and informative review. Thank you!

[@HuFilms]

No problem, thanks!

[@ChrisSummers]

I enjoyed your video and gave it a thumbs up! I got the RF 800mm back in November, I have an investment that pays out every year and it gave me the same as what the lens cost so I got it. I also have the Tamron 150-600mm and shot with the Canon R and R7. The lens is not perfect but had pros and cons and I feel for me it's like any other gear that has a useful purpose for certain situations. I'm retired now and older so I don't want a lot of weight. Several years ago I owned the Sigma 800mm f/5.6. Not as good as the Canon of that size but a pretty good lens. I took it on safari in South Africa and all I can say is I was glad I was sitting in a Land Rover with it instead of walking around! By the way, I got a cheaper aftermarket lens hood, Canon thinks a lot of theirs and charges a fortune. I also found a lens foot that allows me to mount the lens for both vertical and horizontal shots; about $60 on Amazon. I did get the Canon lens case, it's well made and fits the lens without being super bulky like some 3rd party cases. And I agree on a filter, I always have one on every lens I own. I will watch some of your other videos, love your nice accent and soft spoken voice.

[@KayvanCrafted]

Great video man, thanks for bonus comparison👍. My only wishes is if you could get your hand on the new Sigma 60-600 post us some update please.

[@indrasitukangreview]

Very good review sir 👍🏻

[@jamesseward9263]

Excellent video!! Thank you! 😊💕

[@kostiantynromaniv605]

Great video!!

[@finnritslev4559]

Great review !! I have R6 and have "shot" 10,000 birds since mid August together with RF 600mm and during spring and summer another 11,000 with an RP. All my photoes are handheld and I am comfortable with carrying the total of 1.6 kg camera + lens. All my photoes are taken within 10 min. from where we live. Note, I "cheat" a little as my property is neighbor to Roskilde Fjord EU bord sanctuary !!! I purchased RF 800mm a few days ago and upgraded the software om my R6 to 1.5.0. No problems detected so far. My subjective impression is that the autofocus is better with 1.5.0. And the combined weight of 2 kg is quite acceptable - I'm far from a body builder :-)

[@JustinCarf]

The behind photo of those geese was crazy good!

[@HuFilms]

Thanks man, it's an unusual shot for sure!

[@AHollowedHunter]

Really good video, gave me a lot of information, also loved the production quality throughout. I've just got the R6 and waiting on the RF 800, while I'd love the crop you got at 9:45, I can't afford an R5!

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot, that's great to hear. Well, cropping in with a large pixel count sensor won't be as good as getting closer to the bird with a lower res sensor! Also, you may have better low-light shots which is something of value with the RF800. Best of luck with your new gear!

[@robgerety]

Yes really good video and thoughtful well informed review. I am very much an amateur enthusiast. I am using and R6 and RF 100-500 at the moment. But, I'm pondering whether to spring for an R5 for the resolution and the quick on off video, as well as the extra weatherization. Also, while I do love the 100-500 for many situations, the reach of an 800 is something I am starting to yearn for. Think I will wait a bit and see what materializes in the market for the RF mount in the coming year or two. Let my wallet build back up a bit. See what the options are a bit down the road. I might get a 1.4 extender for the 100-500 to play with in the meantime. I just subscribed. Great channel. Thanks.

[@AHollowedHunter]

@@robgerety Since I got the RF800, I've managed to capture so much I would've missed without it, including my first kingfisher! If you can afford it, and know you will use it I would say get it first, and get the 1.4x after. (I got mine slightly cheaper from hdew, only £729 currently too!)

[@robgerety]

@@AHollowedHunter I already own and love the 100-500. I'm not going to sell that lens. So, I'm not yet sure about whether I will get nearly the same performance, but more convenience and flexibility, using the 100-500 with the 1.4 extender v. adding another big lens to my kit. But yes, the 800 f/11 is definitely something to consider and it clearly has a lot to recommend it as a low cost way to get into an 800.

[@declancolohan]

Great video Hugh. The quick 120 4K record function while in stills mode is a game changer on the go. Nice one. Shame it doesn't have a panning setting on the IS, I know the Sigma and the Tamron have OS2 / VC2 just for vertical movements. The 800 is a prime so its gonna be sharp! id say it would be a monster of a lens on a safari

[@HuFilms]

Cheers Dec, it is fairly sharp but at f11 a bit of diffraction is starting to kick in which might degrade the image slightly. Yeah, I'd like to try the Tamron.

[@jamesseward9263]

Maybe Canon will come out with an RF 800mm F11 II with IS panning option, rotating collar and fast focusing motor’s? Maybe even get rid of that focusing crop !? 😀

[@kellyboden334]

Thank you so much, the part where you hoped the Robin stayed there and then they moved is the story of my life! 🤣

[@johndennis5585]

With this lens, I am getting the best wildlife photos I have ever taken.I am using it on the Canon R6

[@HuFilms]

Cool. Thanks for commenting.

[@neverenoughadventure]

Great to hear! I also think about a lot of times during hiking when caribou or birds are just so far away & I want to get pictures of them... this might be the one

[@ujjwalmukherjee4384]

I have a R6 too and really getting tempted to buy this lens accepting what to expect. Your feedback is very assuring in that respect, thanks!

[@doditodi]

Great to see an Irish review on this lens , was in two minds if it would suit our weather and cloudy days . Still in two minds as I would be shooting with an R6 so not much room for a good crop .

[@HuFilms]

Thanks Donal. Afaik, the R6 might be slightly better in low light than the R5 and with less 'cropability' it's all the more reason to go for an 800. Regarding wet conditions, I never really shot when its raining anyway and if you make sure you've your bag with you, at least you wont get the lens soaked.

[@JohnGFish]

Great review

[@HuFilms]

Thanks John!

[@jennymullarkey8600]

Great video, really sharp images, loved the swans feathers towards the end. Lovely work

[@HuFilms]

Thanks Jen!

[@bernardsandman3516]

Great Vid

[@HuFilms]

Thanks Bernard!

[@stevemurnan1702]

Enjoyed this Hugh. I've just traded my 1.7kg EF100-400L II in as it was just too short a focal length for birding. Adding a 2x TC got me to 800mm f11 and added yet more weight and bulk. My R5 handles high iso well but the images weren't that good. Quite soft in fact so I sold the 100-400 and got the 800mm f11. 0.5kg lighter and much better IQ than the 100-400 plus 2x TC. It fills a niche for me as a walk around lens that the 100-400 never could. I passed on the RF100-500 due to not enough reach and price. With an RF1.4 TC I think it still only gets you to 700mm at f10. With a 2xTC the IQ really suffers on any ot the Canon lenses so just not viable. I feel I've the perfect partner for my EF600mm F4 going forward.

[@Xirpzy]

Hey, would you say 400 is enough as a start for larger animals such as deer?

[@HuFilms]

@@Xirpzy Depends on the camera and sensor size.

[@HuFilms]

Nice one Steve, yeah, the 100-500 is a bit limited with reach and aperture and it's still really expensive. I have a 500mm F4 prime but it's very inconvenient for a lot of stuff that the RF800 can do

[@paullanoue5228]

I have an RF 600 mm f/11. Use it on R 6 that has very low noise. I also use on one noise reduction software. I have no problem with noise at high ISOs. The software available today negates much of the noise problem.

[@dolwolfianphotography]

Great complete review with not too much technical stuff 👍Have a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens with the 1.6 crop on the R5 getting 320 and with a X2 extender will make 640 f/5.6 but I'm considering the RF800 even at F11 especially with the combo lens and R5 IS stabilisation. I'm mainly a landscape enthousiast and getting in willdlife (all of them and not focused on birds) up here in Scotland but need some more reach 😋

[@HuFilms]

Thanks, yeah, this lens is gonna be great for you. I think it’s strongest feature is allowing you to shoot handheld video. With video you tend to use lower shutter speeds so you can keep the iso low and get a nice clean image.

[@dolwolfianphotography]

@@HuFilms indeed 👍👍

[@horolographer1]

Hi, I just watched your video and appreciated your commentary on the comparison with other lenses. There is one lens you could have added which is the 400mm f4 DO Mk2 that works very well with the 1.4X mk3 teleconverter. It also works well with the 2X mk3. With the latter the images are still sharp and useable but the AF slowed a fair bit. Not a cheap combo for sure but I suspect the RF 800mm will focus faster esp for BIF.

[@HuFilms]

Thanks, yeah, thats an amazing lens. I just added a few that appealed to me. Teleconverters are a bit questionable I feel. I shot the moon lately with my Sigma 1.4x on the 500mm f4 (which I just picked up) and it added zero detail. Just extra slowness and shakiness!

[@stephencoleman2414]

Good video thank you

[@MrQuirke9]

Brilliant video

[@HuFilms]

Thanks Jamie!

[@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision]

Surprisingly good lenses

[@Brenda-es3gw]

You saying “bastards” to the birds and the people is hilarious 😂

[@rayspencer5025]

I just reluctantly purchased the Canon 800mm f11. I have a "Sigzilla" 300-800mm but though I really like it, it is a major chore to travel and shoot with it. It is extremely heavy, and you need a heavy duty tripod and a heavy duty yoke gimbal (a normal single arm gimbal sags under the weight of the Sigzilla) to handle it. I have long had the original Tamron 150-600mm, and was going to get rid of it when I upgraded to the Sigma 150-600mm Sport. But the Sigma is rather large and heavy. So I kept my old Tamron because it is still decent (with a little PP magic) and is sooo much lighter and a bit smaller than my new Sigma Sport version. When traveling it is nice to have size & weight options.

[@ajc1482]

Wow!. I've never seen so many Curlew in one place.

[@ToshLubek]

I recently got the Sigma 100-600mm Sport for my R6 and love it. I'd like it to be sharper but can't justify the extra cost of the RF100-500. I originally liked the idea of the RF800 but the number of bright days in the SW of Scotland means it wouldn't get a lot of use. Thanks for sharing.

[@HuFilms]

Thanks. The RF800 is close to a third of the weight of your Sigma sports and would get you more reach and detail. But the lens you have is probably better all round. Just a bitch to carry!

[@melindawheeler4213]

@@HuFilms I’m renting the Sigma 150-600 contemporary right now and it’s killing my left arm that was injured. I think I’m going to have to go for the RF 600 or 800. Now to decide if the minimum distance for the 800 will be too far or if I need to stick with the 600.

[@VilledeBarleDuc]

Hello ! Great test ! Where is it possible to buy the same camo panel you have in video ?

[@LonEdward]

Thank you, Hugh. I can't think of another option for bird photography with the R5 for me. I don't want a heavy lens, and I don't want to spend a ton.

[@HuFilms]

It's a great lens. Almost a better bird watching lens than anything else as it'll get you more reach. Handheld filming is a breeze. Best of luck!

[@MusikPiratCH]

I use to watch either two German bird photografers (Chris Kaula and Fabian Fopp) or two Australians (Jan Wegener and Duade Paton). All of them came to the same conclusion. It's nice to see that those mirrorless bodies allow lenses that wouldn't have been possible before. (Nikon is an other brand that shows what lenses - for telefoto - are possible. Although very expensive this nice 600mm f4 with 1.4 TC is really something Canon or Sony should also consider producing!) Thanks for this great video! 😍

[@d.b2756]

Fabian comes from Switzerland

[@johnstrachan1225]

Lovely video.I don't shoot Canon, I use Sony gear but as a wildlife, mainly bird photographer, have the same issues with getting reach! Currently I use the Sony 200-600mm lens and the 1.4x teleconverter. This has the disadvantage that it is much heavier than your setup (about 1kg heavier) and is more expensive about £2K for lens and converter. However it is F9 and the advantage of the teleconverter is that it reduces the depth of field (not increase it as you state in your video). In fact with the teleconverter the depth of field is about the same as a 600mm F4 - so I can get good blurry foregrounds and backgrounds which is one of the reasons I love teleconverters. I also don't see any noticeable loss of image quality with the teleconverter. However operating at F9 causes higher ISO and also slower autofocus in darker conditions - but at least I have the option to remove the teleconverter when this happens :0). Look forward to seeing more of your videos.

[@HuFilms]

Wow, that sounds interesting. I must do some dof tests. I would assume it reduces the blur but if it adds zoom then it'll re-introduce the blur I guess. Thanks for the comment.

[@djking9828]

Well done, 🙏

[@DeputyNordburg]

While I don't think this lens is ideal for everyone, I do think it is amazing for what it costs. It's competition is the 150-600s from Sigma and Tamron, but it's still an 800mm when they are not. I shoot sports and I normally won't buy a lens that is not f2.8. I own a 400mm f2.8 IS V1 and a 2X III Converter. But that is an ungainly combo which I would not walk through the woods or the city with. I bought this lens a few weeks ago and I love it. It's. just a fun lens to walk around with. I added and aftermarket hood and a foot with built in area Swiss plate. Both for about $20.

[@alansach8437]

The 150-600s from Sigma and Tamron, as well as the 180-600 (Nikon) and 200-600 (Sony) are 5.6-6.3s. The 600 and 800 fixed f11s are hardly "competitors "! Canon has patented a plan for a 200-600 and a 200-800, with maximum apertures at the long end of f8 or f9. Those might compete.

[@photoapeal]

I have the RF100 - 500 and I use the programable ring for different auto focus points. I can switch between animal eye focus and spot focus for example or anything in between by rotating the ring. It's quick so It does have it uses. I'm also paired with the R5. Might use this lens instead of a 2x on my RF 100-500 since it's f/11 and not f/16 or higher.

[@pjkdiver]

I have the rf800 f11 and I had both the sigma 150-600's in different mounts. I find the sigmas to be a bit sharper but they are much heavier....the S version is a beast and is just uncomfortable to use handheld for any amount of time. I'm using the rf800 on an R8 but I'm still cropping all the time (bird shots) so I'm considering getting an R7. The apsc noise penalty has me hesitating though because the 800mm f11 is such a slow lens, ISO is generally going to be pretty high. This video is very well done. I'm curious as to the hours put in to make this video. I imagine it was quite a few and I think many people don't really think about the work it takes to produce something like this.

[@nordic5490]

Great video

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot!

[@MaidenBklyn]

Thanks for this review. The Portability of this lens is really attractive to me (as well as the price point), but thinking it would not work well in a forest setting because of diminished lighting conditions ?

[@HuFilms]

You're right. It's disastrous in any sort of low light conditions.

[@steviebye1]

Really enjoyed the video. I have had the R6 with the RF100-500 and am very happy, but as usual I would love a bit more length. I have been struggling with what to do for the past month, extender or this lens. I don't know???

[@HuFilms]

It’s hard to know. A 2x will get you to 1000 but you’ll be at f14 which is crazy. Maybe look at the r5 for pixel detail?

[@steviebye1]

@@HuFilms thanks Hugh, that is what I have decided as I crop at the moment so the r5 is the way to go.

[@JasonTheZoologist]

Question, all the wildlife shot after 31:15, did you handheld all of them? Especially the raptor at 32:40.

[@hobbiesfordays499]

Wanted to get the Tamron 150-600 but was very concerned about focus breathing and other focus compatibility issues with Canon mirrorless. The RF 800 seems to be least costly route for a super zoom without compatibility concerns with my R7.

[@dannydanquah3681]

I shoot with rf 100-500 mounted on R5 and as you mentioned at 11:32 I have been experiencing the same where AF will lock on but not so sharp image. What I've been doing lately is press the AF button even with the lock on (back button auto focus) and image quality has improved.

[@HuFilms]

Thanks Danny, I must try that. Quite frustrating when the focus point is not only locked onto the bird but the birds head, only to see the image end up a bit blurry.

[@rherteux]

Danny can you explain further what you mean by this (press the AF button even with the lock on)? I currently assign one back button to eye AF and another back button to spot AF and I press and hold eye AF while I'm shooting with clean backgrounds or spot AF if I'm shooting with busy backgrounds and the results have been generally exceptional (R5 with 100-500).

[@dannydanquah3681]

@@rherteux If you press and hold eye AF while shooting then that what I was trying to point out. When I started using the R5 (for 7D2, I would press the eye AF and when the lock was on, I would start shooting thinking auto focus was locked on but would get not so sharp images when in Lightroom. That's when I realized I should continue pressing the AF button like I did with my dslr when shooting. I hope my explanation is understood. Thanks Rene.

[@rherteux]

@@dannydanquah3681 Ah, OK makes sense. 👍

[@orangeofmars2835]

This was a good discussion. I found an error-in the photo of lenses the Canon RF 600 f11 is called a Sigma RF 600 f11.

[@mallacai]

try using the sigma 150-600 at f11with the 1.4x teleconverter, it's pin sharp but it won't track birds in flight, it does give that extra 50mm on my nikon d500

[@mikegrok]

I know that the old standard math of 2 times the lens mm for minimum shutter speed, but I think that you should experiment with some lower shutter speeds. I used to use the canon 55-250 IS on a canon rebel xsi (420mm equivalent). If I leaned against a tree while shooting hand held I could take still photos at 1/4 of a second, and if I was walking and stopped, I could get 50% stills at 1/40th of a second. The lens IS combined with the in body stabilization should let you get stills at a much lower shutter speed, and the lower shutter speed will then grant you lower ISOs. Say you go from a 2500 shutter to a 250 shutter, and from iso 5000 to iso500. You own the lens, give it a try.

[@Z_EOS]

Nice video Hugh. What I thought when first saw them RF super zooms was that they are reaching to same users like those back in days buying EF 400/5.6 L IS USM and EF 300/4.0 L IS USM and used them with 1.4x or 2x TCE. It is hard to compare canon primes to Sigma. Focus, colors and contrast its Canons A game for years. It's smaller broders to the super telephoto beasts used in pro range L lenses such as 200/2.0, 300/2.8, 400/2.8, 600/4.0 etc. When I compare my 200/2.8 L mk2 prime to the latest EF 70-200 2.8 L IS the prime has a so much magic, AF is so fast and bokeh is amazing.. The primes are aways so good... But we can carry only one backpack and that's our biggest problem 😉😂

[@HuFilms]

Yeah, that's one way of looking at it. I have the 100L prime, that's my only one. I have the Sigma 70-200 sports and love that lens. I do rate Sigma lenses but if you have the money, Canon are great for sure. This rf 800 is aimed at beginners who want as much reach as possible without the price tag of those lenses you mention above.

[@MrSimpsonville]

Funny you should mention the 400 5.6. I just purchased a very clean version to use on my R5. I love the lens, I used it two weeks ago to shoot Condors in AZ with and without a Canon 1.4x TC. The images were fantastic. I just received the 800mm f11 and went the next week to shoot condors and for the first time I did not see a single Condor at Navajo Bridge. So far I am loving having both lenses.

[@andredo4880]

​@@MrSimpsonvillehow is image quality?

[@harrison00xXx]

Nice "lens review", but i enjoy the wildlife footage/images a lot more than the review itself I began with the RF 800 (with the EOS RP) to get "properly" into wildlife after a lot of hassle with a very old DSLR and EF 75-300 IS USM. As soon i realized the RP doesnt work well with animal tracking at all except BIF at the sky as background... i got the R7. But the RF 800 on APS-C is with 1280mm another league of zoom, often good, but sometimes its annoying. Im thinking about the Sigma 150-600C 2nd hand to have a nice focal range additionally to the super light RF 800, its more universal on APS-C and got a bigger aperture to decrease ISO/noise a bit or just increase shutter speeds even more.

[@video.585]

Hi, it was great. I just have a question. I have a Canon 90D camera. Can I use this lens?

[@HuFilms]

Thanks! No, the 90d is a mirrorless 'ef mount' camera and the lens won't fit. You can use ef lenses on RF cameras though. Via an adaptor.

[@HuFilms]

It's hard to match this lens on sharpness, zoom length and stabilisation. But yeah, the f11 aperture is a pain. Just keep it for bright days! 📷

[@peterebel7899]

not to forget the weight ...

[@ThreeCeeProductions]

People forget two main reasons f11 is OK. 1. The lens and the R5 and R6 all have Image stabilization. Since a lot of birds are perched you can lower shutter speed to help compensate for f11! 2. Noise reduction software has gotten very good. I use Topaz and it gives excellent results. Canon has given very good image quality with reach we could have only dreamed about 2 years ago. The price is less than almost anything from 400-600mm. Try it before you dismiss this.

[@TheRemakersIreland]

I'm looking at either the 600mm or 800mm but for surf photography when the lads are out back. What would be your recommendation? Is the 200mm a major difference (Irrespective of price)?

[@HuFilms]

If you have a 70-200 2.8 then a 2x extender will give you 400mm at f5.6. The RF600 and RF800 will give you lovely sharp images but they'll be slightly limited. One of the budget 150-600 lenses might be more worthwhile. If money isnt an issue then the Sigma 500 f4 would be sweet!

[@DanDill]

How were you able to capture the sound of the thrush moving in the grass? Great!

[@HuFilms]

That my friend is for another video! #Foley

[@noam054]

Consultation.. I have a Sigma 150-600 lens (The simplest is not the sports model) I have it about 4 years and I am very satisfied with the 7D Mark 2 camera. A few months ago I purchased a Canon R6 with an original Canon lens adapter. When the Sigma lens rattles the R6 the performance is less good compared to the 7D Mark 2. I thinking buying a new 600mm/ 800mm Canon lens that will not need an adapter for the R6. The main problem is the focus, not getting fast focus as it gets with the same lens on the camera Canon 7D Mark 2 I would love to hear your opinion. Thank you.

[@deusex148]

I am in the stage of switching to mirroless, I have been using for my birding (for 20 years) a canon 400 f/5,6. I think that you have sold to me the idea of the 800 f/11. I have tried the 150-600 from sigma and I found the autofocus too slow for me and the image a bit soft. Also I am getting old and the canon 500 f/4 is too heavy for me. Thanks for the video.

[@Phil58Liew]

Thanks for your thoughts. I am in a bit of a dilema, I shoot both motoGP and birds. I have gone through all of Canon's big whites and still have 2 x EF800mm lenses (one for the wife!) Flying with EF800 mm always results in hassle with carry on. Time to fly again but this time to Borneo for the birds that are mostly under canopy. There is no substitute for reach but the thought of convenience and that lightweight makes compelling sense except for the f11 under canopy cover scenes. I am thinking of the RF100-500 mm but like you said the reach is shorter plus with an extender brings the f stop back to f9. plus i do have the EF100-400 II and the EF200-400mm. I guess I shall need to test this one out first before a decision.

[@HuFilms]

That is a tough call. The 100-500 is a great lens and is versatile. Plus it focuses better than ef adapted glass. But the lack of shallow depth of field at 7.1 is off putting for me. The rf 800 is great when the birds are further away and in flight etc. It's a tough decision. If you own pro 800 wide aperture glass (which I'd imagine costs a ton) then it's gonna be hard to be impressed with an f11 cheaper lens even if it is convenient. For me, the bigest strength of this lens is being able to shoot handheld video on the R5.

[@Phil58Liew]

@@HuFilms I bit the bullet and bought the RF100-500 mm today. I thought I'd never have to buy anymore L glass but sadly mistaken. However, I do look forward to using it and come away with some good captures. Yes, them EF800s costs plenty but well worth the results.

[@angelguzman8737]

Great video I recently purchased the rf 100-400mm but I’m still interested in getting something that can get me more reach. Would buying a 2x teleconverter be a good choice or should I just get this lens instead of the teleconverter

[@nordic5490]

Im the opposite. I bought the rf800 f11, but now wished I bought the rf100-400 + 2x tc. The 800 is often just too long. A kangaroo 50m away is bigger than the frame, so is a koala in a tree. No flexiblity in the 800. I wish I could also stop down, but the apeture is fixed. Also, the af doesnt cover the whole frame. ... a problem, because critters often fill the frame, the eye af cannot be used if the bird is sideways and the eye out of the af area. Quite frustrating. How do you find the rf100-400 + 2x combo ?

[@angelguzman8737]

@@nordic5490 I bought just the 100-400 I got the lens at Allen’s camera

[@jamesseward9263]

I have the 100-400 II and it works fantastic with the R5!

[@kenmonahan9924]

Hugh, if you set the focus to single point then set one of the back buttons to animal eye tracking once you get focus on the bird with single point just press the button you have reprogrammed and you should gain eye tracking. Gawan and cheers.

[@HuFilms]

Thanks Ken, I have it set up that way since the start. I often shoot like that if the animal af isnt picking up the bird at the start.

[@kenmonahan9924]

@@HuFilms thought it might be an egg suck, sorry about that! Just you didn’t mention it in the vid....I love that lens and don’t really find the ISO as much of a problem to deal with in post as under exposure....great video by the way, where in the country were you?

[@doug433]

I would expect that some of the pics you said were not in focus were actually motion blur. I don't care how good someone is 800mm is a lot to hand hold. Every little movement hand held is amplified tremendously. Increase shutter speed and it will help stop some motion blur.

[@rvboondocker2559]

Thanks. I had all the same observations but I do like the build “quality” and feel of the lens with my R5. I want lighter weight L lenses and hopefully Canon will start making them. I’m ok with plastic, and I don’t drop my stuff, so as long as the glass is good I’ll be happy. I know this is not an L but it’s fun! I too bought the hood. I think the price is very reasonable. I do need water and dust protection though, but it’s more expensive to do. Thanks again for the great video.subbed

[@HuFilms]

Hey, thanks a lot. Glad it's working out. Yeah, I just don't shoot in the rain!

[@rherteux]

I'd be really curious to see how the 800 compares in sharpness to the 100-500 with a 1.4x (I know that doesn't get you to 800 but close).

[@HuFilms]

Yeah, that's a worthy comparison. With that combination, you're at 3 times the price of the 800. My guess that it would be ever so slightly less sharp yet almost as dark at around f10.

[@petepreston1103]

Stumbled over your video...Now subscribed and liked...Really informative vid...I have a 70D with the awesome canon 400mm EF f5.6 L...I really like this lens...I am trading in 70D for an R6 which will obviously reduce my reach with this lens without the crop sensor...What do yiu think....Shall i persist with my L lens or get the RF 800....I had the Sigma contemporary before the 400..couldnt carry it!!! Its a tank of a lens! Ta. Spike

[@HuFilms]

Hi Pete, thanks a lot, glad you liked it. I shoot with a 500mm F4 also and the RF800 is just so convenient I often find myself going for that lens. With the R6's less dense sensor it might work well as you'll want as much reach as possible. So 800 is great. Also, less pixels on the sensor will possibly result in less noise on the image in lower light as you can shoot lower ISO. High mega pixel cameras are a thing of beauty for wildlife work but if you're not cropping that much 24 is great too.

[@PankajRatna]

I use 400mmF5.6 with R5 and have got some tack sharp shots of fast incoming large birds about to land or perch. Although only 1 or 2 shots come tack sharp within one shot sequence. I am in the market for a replacement although so far haven't got a proof point that it will be better than what I am getting with 400f5.6

[@nickeh320]

hello, im wondering if a 800mm f11 stm and a ef 70-300 on a canon r7 is better than a sigma 150-600 .i want it for plane spotting, birding, and general wildlife

[@jamievan852]

Do you suggest, for a beginner bird photographer using a smaller lens (150-600) with a 1.4 x or 2x extender ???

[@HuFilms]

I would suggest not going above 600 for sure. Lose the extender at the start anyway. They can be difficult to shoot with. Just work on getting closer with your shots.

[@heinz-gerdoverkamp6002]

You’d prefer not to have to open it up when you take it out of the bag? Solution: Don’t close it. Just like the focus limiter, you don’t have to use a feature just because it’s there. I considered the R-System’s Control Ring quite useless for a couple of months. Then I learned to use it for selecting the AF-Mode. (While switching between servo an single shot with M-fn) Perhaps worth trying.

[@HuFilms]

Yeah, good idea. Though on the R5 the servo mode is as fast as one shot. Im not really bothered by the extension to be honest. I might have made that seem worse than it really is in the vid!

[@Mike0193Azul]

Until third parties start making rf lenses, this lens is going to be a major bang for the buck for a while 💚

[@omegavladosovich6757]

it's sad because the Sigma and Tamron 150-600 are having AF issues with the R5/R6 on the latest firmware. I have the Tamron G2 and it works well for birds in flight but struggles for small birds fairly close to the camera (AF constantly twitches in and out, but stops when filming video)

[@HuFilms]

Yeah, it's hard to know what will happen. Canon will sell way more lenses if they don't allow other manufacturers to make them so it's a process of reverse engineering and will never be as good as Canon's own.

[@HuFilms]

@@omegavladosovich6757 that is worrying.

[@clonitza]

Great video but I wouldn't buy the 800 as you'll be dependent on sunny days and open areas. Sigma and Tamron are more versatile and also weather sealed.

[@HuFilms]

I have the Sigma also but guess which one I bring out on the darker days? 😀

[@thewolfofbelgium]

Can I ask how you are recording your voice while recording ? :)

[@HuFilms]

Using a Lav mic. The old Sennheiser's.

[@djack4125]

When shooting 800mm, heat waves will often blur your image especially when the subject is flying near the ground. i.e. your harrier.

[@PrimalShutter]

I wonder how it compares to an adapted 400 5.6 on m43

[@alexandereliseev6176]

Dark - like July twilight

[@jophoto934]

I have been a serious amateur photographer for years. Thinking about starting to sell my photographs. I do not have experience with the canon big glass. Would you pick the new RF 800 F 11 $1,000 or a generation I 600 F4 for $4,500 US dollars? I will be shooting at very distant wildlife. Mostly during the day but sometimes early evening or morning.

[@HuFilms]

That's s tough decision. The 800 will probably get you more in focus sharp shots as it's so light, you'll be able to shoot all day. The 600 would be nice but you're getting into more hardcore wildlife photography territory there. Where you're setting up hides etc. But images may be more 'sellable' down the line. Honestly, I can't give you a straight answer.

[@holahi2064]

KZbin recommends 'Here you go watch about something you cannot afford' lol... Anyways loved your video

[@HuFilms]

Thanks a lot. Bear in mind, this is a relatively cheap lens!

[@holahi2064]

It has already been 2 years and I still don't have the lens lol.

[@andersonboy620]

What would be the minimum canon camera that could be suitable for this lens? I mean if you are on a budget and need a camera with enought shooting speed and Iso to match this lens.

[@HuFilms]

You could manage with an R or RP but the R6 would be better. Obviously the R5 would be better again. For BIF, the R and RP won't be as good but I haven't tried them with this lens.

[@mshelton5036]

This lens is why I will go back to canon the size, weight and price. Even if I had the money for the F5.6 lens it's just to large for me. You can't take photos with a lens I will not bring with me and the F11 is a lens I can work with all day.

[@HuFilms]

It’s a real birdwatchers lens. Ideal for walks in the wild and at handheld video it’s unreal.

[@mshelton5036]

@@HuFilms As soon as I can afford it I will switch. Great review thanks!

[@Chris_Wolfgram]

I've owned the Sigma 150-600c and used it on my Canon R5 for about 10 months. Yes, it is capable of the very nice shots. Unfortunately, the auto focus consistency is terrible ☹️ It hits perfectly about 15% of the shots I take with it. Check out some of the videos by Duade Paton, where he tests and discusses this "focus pulsing" issue extensively. I rented the RF 800 F11 a while back for a week, and did surprisingly well with it. Then struggled a few more months with my Sigma 150-600, and finally decided to just go on an buy the RF 800. I think my Sigma will be pretty much retired, maybe sold. It's really a shame, as when it actually hits focus, the image quality is fantastic. It's just terribly inconsistent ☹️

[@HuFilms]

Yeah, I used that lens for a few years as my main bird lens. It's a decent all rounder but it's hard to get those 'pro' looking shots with it. The RF 800 isn't perfect either and you have a narrower focus area because of the small aperture. Still though, it'll get sharper detailed shots. On a bright day! You should aim to get yourself a more pro lens eventually. I got a Sigma F4 500mm at a good deal and though it miss focuses a bit too, it delivers really good shots.

[@Chris_Wolfgram]

@@HuFilms I wish Canon would come out with something like that new 800mm F6.3 from Nikon ! That lens looks to be "the perfect dream lens" ! I swear if that lens lives up to it's promises, and Canon doesn't come out with something very comparable, I honestly might jump ship, and go to Nikon just for that lens... And we know how awesome that camera is too + by then, maybe the rumoured Z8 will be out ?

Nice video, Like 37 and Greetings from Italy :)

[@HuFilms]

Thanks. I love Italy.

[@andrewyoder88]

Can someone with similar "time of day shooting" experience tell me if this lens is worth it on my r6? The reason I ask is because 80 percent of the wildlife pictures I take are taken a half hour or less before the sun sets behind the horizon and on towards dark. Limited window yes but unfortunately that is by far the most active times for the deer

[@HuFilms]

I would say if you're not shooting birds and birds in flight, regularly then don't bother with this lens. For deer, you don't need that accurate a tracking focus, the main thing you want is wide aperture and shallow dof. In a way this lens is a real 'birdwatching' lens.