MHW:IB | Savage Deviljho solo (Sword and Shield) - 3'41 (TA rules)

[@CantaPerMe]

Set + layered armor shown at 3:50

[@Rathadude]

Why no Kjarr thunder or dragon? I thought MR Kulve made elemental SnS meta now.

[@Sunaki1000]

@@Rathadude Perfect rush is just to op. Dragon would have a good Chance for beating the current Rawplaystyle whit the increased Dragondamage of Dragonproof Mantle, and Savage beeing a good elemental Matchup in general, but TA Rules deny Mantles. But you asked Canta, so I hope its no problem. Im mostly repeating Stuff out of Metathreads, so I hope I didnt miss some details.

[@Rathadude]

@@Sunaki1000 I know that PR buff made elemental SnS obsolete initially however my understanding was that Kulve's weapons have made them viable or even meta again. At least that's what I understand from the KZbinr Zen's channel and he's one of the best SnS speed runners out there. The innate crit element on Kjarr weapons combined with Safi set bonus is extremely strong. Even if you don't go full elemental you can also make hybrid sets that have both good raw and element with MT so that you can still use perfect rush and have it do a lot of damage. I'd imagine that a monster with good elemental hitzone values like Savage should be slightly weaker to a more elemental focused build. But then again Zen did say he would have to test the builds and it would probably vary depending on the monster you're fighting whether element or raw is better.

[@Tid0ux]

@@Rathadude I feel like for Jho going for a RAW SnS setup might be better simply because you have so many windows to do 2 perfect rush (well, more like 1 and a half) which I assume make a RAW setup better in this specific case? I really hope elemental SnS either become meta again or real option next to RAW, the current meta of spamming perfect rush as much as possible is incredibly boring to me

[@kuroangel0630]

@CantaPerMe Thank You! This seems like a good set, i'll give it a try 😁 you were insane, 3mins 🙃

[@blainethebro8864]

There's something really satisfying about seeing numbers that high from SnS

[@dumbsheet1671]

I agree. Reaching damage numbers nearly as high as gs without actually using gs is really sastifying.

[@spankg888]

Yeah but perfect rush is too hard to aim

[@blainethebro8864]

@@spankg888 Practice.

[@randomrandomnesss2188]

*cries in lance*

[@mercutio2657]

@@spankg888 after a while it brcomes muscle memory

[@TheRustyCopper]

Damn it could've been a sub 3:40 if- *reads description* PERFECT RUN!

[@katakgenduk8675]

I'm sorry for being a normie but what does sub mean?

[@TheRustyCopper]

@@katakgenduk8675 "sub x:yy" in this case means a run shorter than a given time

[@katakgenduk8675]

@@TheRustyCopper ahh ok thanks for the response

[@sagiv4234]

I like how diverse you are with your weapons, Canta. It's clearly visible that you constantly switch so input doesnt come as natural as it is with people who play with only 1 weapon yet you still dominate, Great vid, enjoyed it alot :)

[@Syahmiaqib]

That last failed backhop.. oh the pain. More painful when you do the slash while guarding. Instant backhop imo is the most difficult move to master. Yes I’m still suffering from it

[@CantaPerMe]

seriously who tf at Capcom thought it would be a good idea to map 2 different moves to almost the same button inputs

[@micolashnh9822]

Tap R2 then imediatly release, your character will only turn if you keep pressing the button.

[@namvv4099]

I feel the pain man, its so awkward when you fail to make it when playing with other players

[@CantaPerMe]

@@micolashnh9822 Thanks for the tip, that actually makes it a lot easier

[@TheMaeximum]

CantaPerMe oh yes, Someone gave me the advice to not stress it. „Just take it slow and do every input with care“, he told me. Tap the guard - then start pressing the buttons for the moves you wanna do. As long as you don‘t overlap the inputs and do them step by step you will never have a problem with it again. I almost never fail it since then.

[@Heimal903]

Someone: Hey Canta, what monster are you gonna solo speed run next? Canta: Yes

[@CalliopeMondlicht]

5 months late but I've only noticed your SnS videos now, which is helping me recover from the discouragement I got from playing SnS back in MHP3rd. I hope I can practice the weapon and become an SnS main again, your videos are awesome as always!

[@lunarezlycablood1838]

I always having trouble fighting jho with sns due to reach, now I learn how to stunlock him. Thanks Canta!

[@TheBrownestFalcon]

Looking at those numbers, S&S now is like having a Greatsword in one hand and a Hammer in the other, good grief. Great run!

[@TheMaeximum]

TURBODERP But it‘s only 1% of it‘s true power

[@ekremslayer3389]

@@TheMaeximum Only Jocat knows its true power

[@mianno2139]

Never expected SnS to deal 455 damage, another great vid Canta

[@wrongwronskian7707]

Pros play with peak performance for additional attack cos they know they wont get a hit a lot. Me, i use resentment cos its a reliable way to get additional damage, cos i get hit alot.

[@PWNINSWAGMASTER]

Wrong Wronskian I use health boost lvl 3 so I can take the hits better and be less afraid to attack more boldly.

[@Swarkyishome]

One day i'll become half as good as you are with one weapon

[@wizard_guru8035]

😂😂😂😂☠💀

[@sanwild8505]

I arrived on this channel a short time ago, but i already realized how good you are.

[@AMO17]

Me: Trying a speedrun. Deviljho: I told you what I was going to do to you didn't I?! Me: Proceeds to be literally curb stomped into oblivion. I'm always in awe of you speed runners! Awesome stuff!

[@brandj2020]

Wow that was a most skillful hunt I too use SnS and this was just beautiful.

[@widows_tear4533]

one day they’ll realize it’s greatness

[@Str8Wildcat]

It's crazy how small that sword and shield is yet its pushing out charge blades worth of damage

[@CakeofPokke]

I didn't see that choked backhop attempt near the end. lol. That hit at 1:42 was super satisfying! Great run as always Canta!

[@lestertheearthworm809]

3:37 literally me

[@biiyen8458]

God, the numbers on that SnS are just disgusting

[@daosxion776]

I didn't know how efficient back hopping from perfect rush before the final attack was, i need to master that.

[@Metaren4]

And people still calls this weapon a “beginner weapon” LUL

[@hawk4558]

Don’t forget it’s also “only good for support builds” lol

[@sufferintoilet6231]

They are just butthurt elitists who got their ego shatter because their oversized weapons are outdamaged by a kitchen knife

[@ethancalteaux1068]

bro i just started playing, i m using sword and shield, and i love these

[@manikaditha6308]

your claw control is so good, ive used SNS for 1k times still failed to attempt it miserably sometimes lol

[@xannen3457]

took me 20 minutes to kill deviljho and faint 2 times,after watching your video,i beat the deviljho 7 minutes 43 sec and not even one faint lol,thx man

[@saskiaichida5620]

Nice Run Canta as expected from you :3

[@jacoblagrimas695]

the fact that he used sword and shield on a deviljho is mad

[@latrodectusmactans7592]

The real savage in this video wasn't Deviljho.

[@Goonta17]

Yesssss, more SnS please!

[@nicolaigiess8006]

2:23 I N C R E D I B I L I S

[@mr.angryman3599]

I just fought savage jho today for the first time took me 33 minutes tho lmao

[@princeofrance]

Lol

[@StillLivesWithMa]

Everyone drop down your weapons and pick up the SnS! This weapon has it all!!

[@CryBlade]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4fUnoNoariffbs

[@Markus1229]

i'm a Hunting Horn main right now but i definitely been wanting to try it!

[@cepul1355]

just noticed dat lil canta pendant xD

[@snowyfrog7727]

you are good at so many weapons

[@d_g1881]

I'm really about to say this to the literal world eater but. Poor savage deviljho

[@KavalTerbang]

can't help but to talk about the choked backstep near the end. lol still love the run though!

[@johan9428]

So thunder element is not THE thing against Savage Deviljho anymore. "SnS is a weak weapons". Even back in MH4U it was very effective. Hope to see more SnS runs. 3:34: That was close! Now, time for the run with the favorite monster of Canta!

[@capitandan0]

Your name in Italian means "sing for me"

[@markkender7751]

I saw the choke! But at least it wasn’t a guard slash. Nice.

[@BoJangles42]

If I had a nickel for every time I've guard slashed instead of backhopped...

[@lucifer-ygo9793]

0:13 a rare specie :O

[@cheklmn__6610]

nice opener cantathuree

[@hc2910]

2:09 : the way you avoided this attack was just insane 😯

[@Andretti2Tone]

We should be able to cut deviljhos little arms and wear it as a weapon pendent

[@nekokranz7628]

cantaTriumph good job

[@JoshTheFlyGuy]

So I’m new to sns. And currently use falling bash to get the KO and perfect rush but the way I see you utilize this is you add grapple and before the last attack sequence of perfect rush you roll out and back step into perfect rush full which I’m going to utilize now haha Quick question what’s with the grappling and letting go?

[@CantaPerMe]

it extends the stun duration of the claw stagger

[@AzureRoxe]

Why you gotta hit him in his tiny arms though? He's already Savage enough.

[@禍々冥府魔神怪獣ベリュド]

五分以内に討伐、お見事！

[@dart.115]

Hopefully since Canta (a more well known Speed runner) has shown some good SnS play, it'll help elevate people's mindsets that SnS is far from a weak weapon. It actually has dps comparable to GS, btw.

[@Rathadude]

Yeah just watch Zen. I'm pretty sure the PR buff and claw uppercut buff made it high tier for speed running.

[@charlescirio]

@@Rathadude Can u explain whats the patern to do with SnS now? (New to Iceborn)

[@Rathadude]

@@charlescirio It's kind of hard to explain because of how versatile SnS is so the combos to use depend on your openings and whether you're using a raw focused build or an elemental. I highly recommend checking out the KZbinr Zen's guides on the weapon. He has two videos on his channel that go in depth about what the best combos are and when you should use them. They're in Japanese but they have English subtitles.

[@BoJangles42]

@@charlescirio In this speedrun: Soften with Claw Uppercut, release, Advancing Slash, Backstep, Perfect Rush hits 1-3, dodge cancel, Backstep, Perfect Rush to finish, repeat That's not how I play (SnS main), but I don't do speedruns.

[@Rathadude]

@@charlescirio kzbin.info/www/bejne/m57QenqPmrCjq80 Here's one of the guide videos. You find the other on his channel.

[@Yamaneko81]

I dont know why people say sword and shield is a noob weapon , its really not easy to properly use

[@DisparaErvilha7387]

THERE IS A RARE BUNNY IN THE START OF THE VIDEO

[@Eldaran777]

Hi Canta! I'd like to ask a question if you allow me: i'm getting started on SnS and i'd like to know why you picked shatterfang instead of drakfang or kjarr dragon. Sorry if it's a dumb question but i've always thought that SnS was more of an 'element' weapon, so i'm really curious. Thx and congrats for the run :) Edit: typo

[@weebutrash8733]

It depends on your play style, if you focus on slash combos more then elemental Is better, but if you prefer PR spam then raw is the way to go.

[@Eldaran777]

@@weebutrash8733 Thanks for the answer! :)

[@JKun-bm8km]

I always feel bad for the monster in your videos :(

[@Yung6Pack]

0:11 runs right past a Pilot Hare.

[@arielsuarez5527]

I've seen other speedrunners do this so I was wondering... why do you claw uppercut and then jump off?

[@CantaPerMe]

To extend the stagger animation

[@Athai_]

@@CantaPerMe Does it even extend by much?

[@monsterhunterdude5448]

Your reaction time is just so fast...

[@a.ozzie.o]

And it didn’t get a chance to change locale 🥵

[@Sunaki1000]

I realy like the Dragon Mist Effect what happens everytime you hot the chest. Nice detail. Hope you got lucky whit Kulves RNG? You probably wanted the DBs. Im done whit my Grind since 2 Days. Realy started to like her Matchup after the first 20 Atempts. But whatever, nobody ask me about my lifestory. Im just talking a little.

[@aliam4993]

Savage Deviljho? More like Tired Deviljho

[@joeywheeler2836]

SNS ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE GEN HUH

[@BoJangles42]

SnS is stronger now in Iceborne than it has ever been. Striker SnS in MHGen/U was pretty good, but nothing compared to SnS in Iceborne.

[@mralex5653]

angry pickle abuse*

[@diocavallo8736]

Hey Canta, since Jho is weak to dragon, wouldn't be a good choice the Kjarr Dragon SnS? Because with dragon attack at 6 it reach 750 dragon element+critical element so seems strong to me. Or do you think Safi SnS is still the best SnS? Really nice run btw, I love fighting Savage Jho but I'm still far from your numbers😅

[@CantaPerMe]

Perfect rush heavily favors raw damage, you usually only use kjarr element SnS if you use regular slash attacks more than Perfect Rush

[@diocavallo8736]

@@CantaPerMe I did know that raw damage benefict more from perfect rush but I didn't know it was so much more efficient. I was hoping that Kjarr SnS were the better ones but thanks for the reponse :)

[@dart.115]

@@diocavallo8736 Kyarr are still great. You just have to use the spiral slash combos instead of Perfect rush

[@DrDev1L]

@@diocavallo8736 First hit of PR 1 and PR 2 itself is a shield attacks, and all SnS shield moves doesn't apply status/elemental damage which also makes use of PR with elemental weapon non optimal.

[@Primobelmont]

Even SnS have a finisher strike or burst combo attack compare to IG

[@Sunaki1000]

R2

[@Triakiis]

2:23 Street fighter announcer: K.O!

[@Dranlia]

And some people have the gall to call SnS low tier...

[@alexbunge6168]

Anyone know why he clutch claws then drops?

[@masterasia4175]

Im not 100% sure but i believe it makes the monster stay in that exhausted/tired state for a bit longer so it allows him to pull off 2 rounds of the perfect rush

[@SG.000.80]

Hi ! Good run

[@chromewizards]

I saw you frequently do clutch claw even though you didn't proceed to hit afterwards, is that any particular reason for it?

[@CantaPerMe]

it extends the stun duration

[@lowtzechien5308]

Would be even juicier if you have slot one coalescence, bet you can get higher dmg output with coal in this jho fight, but slots don't come easily :(

[@CantaPerMe]

I actually tried it with Coalescence instead of PP for a bit but in a Jho run it can be a bit of a pain to activate sometimes because if everything goes smoothly, he'll be staggerlocked for most of the hunt which doesnt give you any opportunity to activate it (tho it certainly would have helped in this particular run)

[@lowtzechien5308]

@@CantaPerMe in this run where it's not absolutely clean, I think coal would win. Otherwise Peak Performance will win

[@PWNINSWAGMASTER]

The Savage Deviljho is WAY more annoying than the normal Deviljho when you're hunting another monster. Once it targets you, it DOES NOT leave you alone.

[@Sunaki1000]

It specificly aims for your Target more then you. I hunted a Lunastra this way. Sadly he was near dead to and run away, before I could catch him. Was pretty pissed despite the free kitty.

[@PWNINSWAGMASTER]

Sunaki1000 Lunastra is a "she"

[@PWNINSWAGMASTER]

Sunaki1000 I havent killed a Lunastra yet, but I fought one in that double floor arena one time, it's hard but I never found it that much harder than Teostra. However the Teostra was still a nightmare regardless.

[@Sunaki1000]

@@PWNINSWAGMASTER No I mean bot there half dead, and after I killed Luna, I wasnt able to get the kill on Savage. Annoyingly enough, he was completly ignoring my Tranqbombs, and just pissed of.

[@PWNINSWAGMASTER]

@@Sunaki1000 Dude can you rephrase or edit that first part of your sentence?

[@a.i.m4505]

I know I'm 3 months late but at 1:50 how did canta cancel the last hit and went straight into another backhop? I didn't see any evading move to cancel it.....

[@sunnysideup137]

he rolled forward

[@Tryfox95]

I know this is old but maybe someone could help me out still, why claw to mount and dismount ? Am I missing something ?

[@CantaPerMe]

it resets the stagger duration

[@CanduGame]

how to get that layered armor? ( outfit )

[@frenchiee_96]

So um how and why is he doing as much damage with SnS as i aim with my hammer? ( 0-0) someone explain

[@sbagas8369]

that combo that u saw after he back hopped is called perfect rush and each of them (well not literally each, but, you got the point) have a great motion value on each hits making it disgustingly high. SnS is great now, not only it's a light weapon that could tenderize in one hit, it also fast on tenderizing, and provide huge damage if timed correctly. you should totally try sns. it's easy and comfy!

[@frenchiee_96]

@@sbagas8369 ehh ill think about it. Im a HH and a GS player but i try all the weapons i just never bothered with SnS

[@CannibalLecter]

Hella satisfying to watch. Does anyone know what weapon she's using?

[@theunholyhyena9992]

The weapon's name is 'Safi's Shatterfang' and its an SnS

[@CannibalLecter]

@@theunholyhyena9992 thanks mate

[@Lb4LbPacman]

Can someone explain what's the purpose of clutch claw and immediately jumping off?

[@CantaPerMe]

the claw uppercut counts as a claw attack itself which allows me to keep the chest tenderized without having to do the actual claw attack and it resets the stagger animation which gives me a big opening for dealing damage.

[@Lb4LbPacman]

@@CantaPerMe oh wow I didn't know that. Thank you!!

[@Snakeeeeeeeeeeee]

how did they jump up on it's neck?

[@RiderZero1992]

I'm curious, why do some people replace MR Kaiser Crown head for the gamma version?

[@CantaPerMe]

it has more slots

[@shoobzy3431]

Ok thing I wanna ask why do people latch onto the monster and then just drop down for seemingly no reason? At first i thought it was because it was faster to close the distance than running but I've seen you do it while being right next to the guy

[@CantaPerMe]

latching onto the monster while its stunned with the clutch claw specific animation will reset the stun duration, giving you a bigger dps window

[@madheadcrew1]

I have a serious question. I main SnS and I have the same exact gear and weapon as you. I went with all augments of Attack V and Attack VI tho so I don’t have purple sharpness. My base attack is at 456 vs your 434... I have never one hit a 400 or even 300 crit damage without the blast proc.. can you please explain if it’s because you have purple sharpness it gives you that much of a attack increase. Status for the most part is similar but different - please Canta I want your opinion and if there needs to be any changes as well. Others can leave a comment also if you know See link to screenshot of my gear/build: drive.google.com/open?id=17PTwLgaxI11a0I8RKw-W46UBlJs8Wini

[@Markus1229]

yeah i'm curious too! lol be killing me when i match builds or better and don't get the numbers i see on youtube like what is going on!!

[@madheadcrew1]

Markus Dickinson precisely I need an answer

[@dart.115]

@@madheadcrew1 it's a mix of many factors, not just purple sharpness. 1: you only have 2 of 3 points to Peak Performance. 2: You only have 1 point of Critical Boost. Crit boost is an *insanely* important skill if you want to make the most of your crits. 3 PP, 3 CB, and purple sharpness blows away only 2 PP, 1 CB, and white sharpness with all attack upgrades.

[@madheadcrew1]

Dart.11 thanks bro! Over the past few days since I have changed my stats I now have all stuff max . Crit boost, peak performance, attack boost and crit max ... another thing I have learnt and is didn’t even realize was that I had to time perfect rush attack for it to do more damage I have been spamming the button like a maniac.. I have now tonight learnt the timing and can now see similar damage as this vid. I have been playing wrong all along these speed run vids teaches a lot makes so much sense to me now Edit: I also have purple sharpness

[@midgard9057]

So the initial latch on(claw grab) strips the defense?

[@CantaPerMe]

It counts as a light weapon claw attack by itself basically so yeah, latching on with the claw + claw attack will immediately tenderize a body part.

[@midgard9057]

@@CantaPerMe Just got the game few days ago and am still learning. Thanks for the info!

[@wizard_guru8035]

Canta ve my future wife lmao

[@pipporossi5319]

What s TA Rule? And what i get for accomplishment?

[@Sunaki1000]

A Rulebook for Speedrunner. Not everyone choose to follow it, but it focuses on the more classic Style of Gameplay and exclude luckbased things like Turfwars.

[@Trigr1431]

How the fk so you get those numbers? I only deal like 20-50 dmg per chop

[@lukaskaufhold2354]

Didn't canta say he really disliked sns in world?

[@Rathadude]

Was that in base world he said that? Because the weapon's come a long way since Iceborne.

[@BoJangles42]

He probably hated unga bunga spam which was the common speedrun strat in vanilla MHW

[@diocavallo8736]

I disliked SnS too in World, but in Iceborne I'm loving it

[@lukaskaufhold2354]

@@diocavallo8736 yeah I picked it up after the perfect rush buff and now I can't go back to any other weapon

[@hasmas5951]

poor jhojho

[@bluntzablowin]

Maybe a dumb question but why clutch and let go?

[@CantaPerMe]

to extend the stagger animation for more hits

[@bluntzablowin]

@@CantaPerMe o that's dope I never knew that

[@tok2181]

What’s the story about your name???

[@OwainnAlexandros]

Sorry for asking but what is TA rules

[@DrDev1L]

It's a set of rules for speedrunners, which basically prohibits stuff like mantles, flash pods, slinger burst, traps, etc for in the sake of showcasing pure skill of a player.

[@BoJangles42]

It's ok, everyone botches a from-neutral backhop now and then. :-)

[@bobsnob9246]

is perfect rush the new unga bunga?

[@Dave_Chrome]

Yes

[@BoJangles42]

for speedruns, yes it appears so, unless your build is HEAVILY optimized for raw AND the monster is 3-star weak to stun damage with big impact HZs, AND you spam traps to keep the monster locked down I for one and SO GLAD unga bunga spam is no longer the go-to for speedruns, its boring af to watch someone do the same move 30 times in a row. If you're like me and you main SnS because it's a versitile and fun af weapon to use, then no, falling bash is still good for short openings.

[@bonejangles6329]

"sns isnt viable" explain those numbers

[@baconberries8097]

does just grappling onto the monster with the claw dodge maintain the weak point? or was that just how fast Canta killed it?

[@redblue200]

I'm still learning about it, since I'm just picking up Iceborne again, but I believe the Claw Uppercut that SnS can do out of rolls gets 50% of the way to creating a weak spot, even if you don't do an attack after it-the Claw Uppercut got buffed in the same patch as Perfect Rush, apparently.

[@edwardhernandez7559]

Jocrap knows that sns is the strongest weapon in MHW we just don't listen to him lol

[@brightsuperstition]

With SNS as powerful as it already is in Iceborne, do people really still want Gen's/GU's oils back? Are oils still necessary?

[@BoJangles42]

SnS main in both MHGU and MHWI...personally I think oils would make SnS so OP it would be silly, imagine the fast sword attacks also doing heavy stamina/exhaust damage.

[@fuzz134]

Oils would be beyond broken, it kind of annoys me when people insist SnS still needs them.

[@Freaktacular]

what did you do here 1:50 it doesn't look like you rolled...

[@infinitepotential9190]

The weird thing is that I thought S&S was a terrible weapon but after seeing this I see That was wrong Also I’m a SA main

[@DrDev1L]

A fellow SA main here. Also started playing SnS after perfect rush patch, it's an awesome weapon.

[@gallixypegasuss1546]

Canta is far from the land of Gods. Canta is above those we know as Divine. Even Lady Ameratsu worships Canta. Lady Ameratsu is mortal in comparison

[@kakodun]

what does he take a nullberry for?

[@CantaPerMe]

Removes dragonblight

[@oath7765]

wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff XD

[@Dontreadthis0]

Whats rhe purpose of using clutch claw and immediately cancelling it?

[@CantaPerMe]

extends the duration of the stun

[@Dontreadthis0]

​@CantaPerMe that's what I thought but I wasn't sure. thanks for the reply despite it being a 3 year old video I really appreciate it since I'm now getting into the game and sns a lot more