CANUCKS TRADE UPDATE: THIS WHOLE CORE IS DONE… ELIAS PETTERSSON, JT MILLER, BOESER, DEMKO TRADES?

[@TheHockeySniper]

If Boeser makes free agency I can see him as a Wild.

[@SportsMuppets]

You trade him ,you don't let him walk for free

[@leahd4611]

I'll be honest, as much as this core is flawed, this is the core mgmnt and ownership put together. Its their job to find the coaches to get the best out of them. You do not blow up a core unless you have a new core coming up. If you take away the players ability to succeed, the failure is on you.

[@samuelpratt642]

Experience Canucks hockey.

[@sucraf1]

Last year was great. This year is terrible. So after 1 bad year, let's tear the team apart? How long have they kept the core together in other teams? I'm sure more than 1 or 2 seasons. Good or bad. LMAO. But sure get rid of the core, and as you said, have a new core to replace them is fine.

[@BrianHansma]

All of the Canucks core players were here before this management group.

[@leahd4611]

@@BrianHansma I am aware of that, but their first year here, they modified this core group. So they chose wrong if they now think that this core is the problem. Point remains the saem, you do not dump a core group if you do not have a new one to replace them coming up in your system. You will never replace a core by trade.

[@samuelpratt642]

They need to just put the lotto line in tonight and have a farewell tour.

[@wainber1]

There’s no doubt that the Canucks have major issues but also that just keeping the core together hasn’t helped matters either, with last season likely to remain an anomaly for as long as this core stays pretty much as it is.

[@kevinnegoro1118]

If the management messes this up, they will be fired.

[@LeonExile05]

They should be fired before they mess it up imo.

[@denispicard4503]

I would not want Pettersson on my team even at 5 millions a year. So soft. The Canucks i agree are crumbling. Pathetic!

[@bradley8368]

I’m not sure a total rebuild is necessary. I do believe that this “core” is deeply flawed. If you consider that Boeser, Miller, Pettersson, Hughes and Demko have been together through 3 coaches with limited success ( except last season ), then I think it’s fair to say that some corrective action is necessary. Obviously, no one can have any issues with Hughes, but the others are all worthy of consideration. It’s management’s job to evaluate these players and determine how best to retool the roster without just trading everyone. There’s talent there, it’s just a bad combination. I would hope that Hughes would be ok with taking a step back for a year or two in order to legitimately contend for a cup. If not, then I guess a total rebuild is in the works.

[@Seriously_Unserious]

I still say the first step is move Miller, as he seems to be the epicentre of all the problems. He's playing like half a player right now, unless we get a rare game where he decides to play then we get 2 g 2A Miller for a game, before he's taking the next 2 weeks off again. It can't be easy for Boesser and Suter who are on Miller's wings playing 4.5 on 5 every shift Miller doesn't feel like showing up, and that has to be wearing them down, both physically and mentally. Having a guy in that mood around is draining on everyone and it's no wonder at this point none of the Canucks can maintain any level of effort, they're probably spent and going into debt to just get through each new game this debacle drags on. Move miller early enough to have enough time before the deadline, see how Boesser, Pettey, Demko and Hughes and the rest of the locker room responds, then decide what types of deadline moves you're making. If being relieved of Miller revitalizes the team and they come out for the next month going gangbusters, then start buying and get them a replacement 2C and a legit 2D to go with Sousy so Myers can be the 3D his age demands and give the team every chance to make a late push and possibly a surprise run. If they keep on in mediocrity, then sell some guys who we may not be able to retain anyways and get some younger talent for them and begin a retool. It all hinges on how they respond to moving the source of the drama out though.

[@YavE4]

I'm only a secondary Canucks fan, so I don't know. But it just doesn't seem realistic that Vancouver would completely tear it down, at least not quite yet. In a season or two? Maybe. Just seems a tad too early to pull the plug. Seems like they're a good defenseman and another Horvat-like player away from being right where they were last year. They just don't seem to be quite as complete as they were last year, seemingly. But hey, maybe I'm dead wrong?

[@LeonExile05]

I’ve been a Canucks fan since I was a kid. Almost 30 years. If they destroy the core I think that’s it.. I’m done with the Canucks and the NHL all together. I see people say that all the time, but I’d never forgive the management team. I actually think that Aquilini should step in. Never thought I’d say that.

[@nanaimoshoerepair]

Now that we have a healthy replacement for Demko (Lankanen) and a decent enough backup ( Silovs) it would make sense to trade Demko before he gets hurt again. trade Miller for a 2D and a pick. Keep the rest.

[@Platnatimingbelt]

Career years doesnt mean itll be replicated weve seen some of the best fall offf might as well move on from it all and rebuild hope they dont trade Hughes love the guy to much but if he wants to leave let him be happy

[@travisengland7097]

Petterson gets roughly 150,000 for 1 game. Is there anybody that thinks the way he plays is worthit

[@Wonder123-fy2jf]

But, but, but....he's young they say. And he''ll change. Just wait 😃

[@G_Ellis606]

@@Wonder123-fy2jf yeah, he's just a "kid"

[@lukeflyswatter3203]

The change in assistant coaches plus all these new players is what happened.

[@stawns]

Anyone who really watched could see there was an issue with this team as early as mid-December of 2023. After the all-star break, they were mediocre. Demko made this team look a lot better than they were. Miller, for all the "you win with him" rhetoric, hrs never actually won anything

[@G_Ellis606]

I'm okay with trading all of them. Rutherford and Allvin have seen enough of mediocrity at best. Especially when it comes to EP40. At 11.6 you are suppose to put the team on your shoulders most games...not pick up easy second assists and score once every 5 games

[@raymondleemanpaper]

Fire Tocchet.

[@BotN604]

Fire Canucks fans.

[@chad4801]

You and everyone who likes your comment is an idiot. Tochett ain't the problem lil boy

[@freefalling6960]

@@BotN604 yeah some fans are just beyond the limit of how much toxic you should be allowed to be. Its almost like they love to hate

[@jacksoncarse1789]

Should be working on a Boeser extension and instead these clowns are out there trying to trade our two best centres...

[@sucraf1]

I would of liked to get Rantanen if he could play center. He has more points than both our best centers combined. LMAO.

[@rona6063]

Every Canadian team that loses to the Oilers in the playoffs get blown up the next year. Weird.

[@NS_8311]

If they trade miller and Petey expect Quinn to be gone as well. This whole thing will be blown up

[@rayogden9143]

quinn is not going anywhere

[@NS_8311]

@ why would you say Quinn isn’t going anywhere? If Miller and Pettersson are traded this year, do you really think Quinn will stick around? Let’s be real, there’s no way that’s happening. Quinn can start negotiating after next season, and by then, the Canucks would likely be in a full rebuild. Why would he waste his prime years being part of that when he has the option to sign in jersey and play with his brothers? There’s no way Canucks would let him. Walk in free agency. Quinn will be traded before that happens. I’m a diehard Nucks fan but let’s be honest, there’s no way Quinn will stick around.

[@rona6063]

​@@rayogden9143He's UFA in 2 more years. Why would he stay after they blow it up? Canucks will be in the same situation Colorado was with Rantaanen

[@freefalling6960]

@@rayogden9143 he definately is going somewhere. He said a couple years ago that he is not going to stick around for a rebuild

[@laurenrome3823]

They don't seem happy so yea maybe a shake up is needed but I'm just a fan

[@rona6063]

New Jersey has 14m coming off the books the summer Quinn hits UFA, not to mention the increase in cap that will happen. It is inevitable now.

[@G_Ellis606]

Hughes isn't being traded. Top 5 player in the league...

[@rona6063]

@G_Ellis606 He is UFA in two more seasons. Never said anything about a trade. Van is losing him to free agency.

[@SportsMuppets]

Why would season ticket holders want to go watch these folks play hockey ? They can't win 2 games in a role ..

[@renlynicolas8163]

bring it down!

[@rayogden9143]

cole and zadorov never should have been let go

[@NS_8311]

@@rayogden9143 Z should have been resigned, I agree. If Miller was a problem in the locker room, management should have moved him immediately. Instead, they didn’t and let the Vancouver media run wild with stories which is hurting Millers return. The Vancouver media needs to chill out

[@bluejaym237]

Meh, they weren't that special TBH

[@TheLexiconKing]

kind screwed up that this team is playing like crap and still only a few points out of a wildcard. I think when they are 'on' they are the teams that controlled florida and colorado earlier in the year . another problem that doesn't seem to get about enough IMO, is the regression into the same bad habits , some you could argue have gone back to the early 2010s. leaving goalies out to dry , making too many cute passes , not correctly boxing out , dumping the puck in with no one to win a battle ( although this last one i still like better than a cute pass at the blue line that ends up in an odd man rush the other way, the way it used to happen). I think guys need to realize that they need to be cognizant of these at all times and actively not do them . Hockey, to a degree , is like chess. There are winning formulas for how to play as proven by most cup winners that play that way , its a little sterilized but who cares. I believe the way coach wants them to play is correct ( hard on board battles, box out , make a SMART play with the puck , a few quick passes and then shoot the puck, play fast ) this team slows down too much , its almost like they subconsciously want to play that way . Maybe its because they played kind of like that under travis greene when this core was first assembled . I think where the problem hits the coaches is not getting the players to pull their heads out of their backsides. the management seems like they tried to address the lack of scoring in the playoffs last ...by getting Jake debrusk and some third liner.Then adressing the defence by pulling a Jim benning special and getting some bottom pairing guys for an "upgrade". Lets face it, alot of the scoring issues were due to the 1-2-2 system they played to protect arty , and peety being in a massive slump . Although, if the top two centres were adults who executed their jobs and tuned out the noise, and demko was back to his old self , alot of these holes wouldn't be talked about near as much because the team would win alot more IMO John 14:6 King James Version 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[@chad4801]

Trade pettersson to buffalo and try to get cozens and byram. Pettersson needs out. Hes a genZ pre Madonna thats addicted to video games. If boeser doesnt wanna sign for less then 8 per , trade him also. Gather a 1st rounder for him to someone in the east. If rantanen tests the market throw 15 million per year at him. Miller isnt the problem. Its the passive aggressive litte princess pettersson who needed to be the highest paid swedish player.

[@bigmuxxdeluxx]

Another example of Why Miller is the guy. Petterson got demoted and Hoglander played better than him.

[@British.bulldogs]

Trade demko, miller, and don’t be silly keep Peterson, you cannot trade Peterson for a poor start to this season. Remember lindens second year. Come on people the canucks have a history of pathetic trades. Maybe the coach should be in the crosshairs.

[@jasrajsamra2838]

Bring back goldobin

[@oSWookie]

IDK man what you end up telling hughes "sorry gotta go though a rebuild" its not good my friend

[@Mark-gj9po]

I said for a few yrs Quinn will end in NJ.... Now it's as close as it's ever been to happening.

[@emmettsewell]

@@Mark-gj9pothere’s zero chance of this happening. Hughes doesn’t want to move and the whole idea is they’re going to retool around him.

[@seansational]

van will never do a rebuild, retool on the fly at worst. canadian markets dont rebuild ever

[@rona6063]

​@seansational not even close to accurate.

[@seansational]

@@rona6063 name the last canadian team that sold off all its veterans and went into a full rebuild.

[@christhornycroft3686]

Hey, better late than never. They should have done this in 2014.

[@lindsaygreef]

Get rid of the coach first

[@Seriously_Unserious]

First step is still trade Miller, get what you can get for him, then give the team a month to see how the remaining core responds. If they turn it up and go on a major heater, then bring in a new 2C, and a legit 2D to play with Soucy, to back them up. If they continue to falter with inconsistent play and blown leads, then yeah, time to move more core players, like Boesser, and maybe Demko and to a big retool. maybe consider moving Pettersson in the off season when you can get more for him then mid season rush deals. But the crux is moving Miller before too many games have passed. What else needs to be done all falls into place once Miller is off the team and they can at least try and focus on getting back to Tocchett's system again. We really can't know what this core can do while they're all being rattled by all this drama. It can't not be affecting them all severely, and Brock Boesser and Pious Suter share a line with Miller normally, so having their centre being checked out means they're basically playing 4.5 on 5 3very shift, and that has to be wearing them down hard. We'd be better off moving Suter to the centre position and putting a young gun like Lekerimaki on the wings then having a checked out Miller being half a player and tanking his trade value more and more with each passing game. They can't afford to wait to the deadline, let alone the off season, they need to do the move while they still have a month to evaluate how removing Miller affected the team and decide what the next move should be - a retool, or finding talent to fill holes and going for it.

[@TheLexiconKing]

agree, at this point im fine with miller to the rangers for chytil ,lindgren and first the way they were reporting . or skip the first and see if they can get othmann. lindgren, from what i understand, is a fairly steady defenceman. Chytil, while he has had concussion issues, is quite talented and i have seen speculation he could be an 80-90 point guy in a different environment ( although far from guaranteed).

[@kalenluck]

I thought once Demko was healthy this team was going to roll the oilers in 2025?

[@rayogden9143]

you thought wrong

[@kalenluck]

@ weird this channel made video after video about how much better the Canucks were in the playoffs last year

[@vernonhowell4070]

The fact that EP is getting skinnier every game is enough to tell me you have to get rid of him before you can’t. He’s going to be the next Loui Erickson if he’s even healthy enough to play that long. Let him go be another team’s problem.

[@R.R.chandar]

I have been saying for years to trade petey, his not worth the hype. he’s physically and mentally weak, he will never be a leader

[@freefalling6960]

you dont score 100pts in the NHL if you are mentally weak. THat sort of thinking is coming from someone that lives in his moms basement

[@remimk]

Hughes won't resign if the entire team he was leading collapsed.

[@wil_ny6]

Canucks suck

[@Gandaulf1961]

Bwahahahahaha Hate to say I told ya so, ........but.........