MODIFIED SHOWDOWN - TRX4M vs SCX24 - Fully Upgraded Comparisons, Performance Tests & More!!!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Timestamps The contenders: 2:01 Indoor course tests: 8:03 Outdoor course runs: 17:20 Challenge lines: 23:08 Key takeaways: 29:31 Bonus: 32:42 Final thoughts: 34:58

[@TylerMartin-bf9yb]

Why do I feel like your a prior service member?

[@VS666]

absolutely killer video! this was such a fun one to watch, i love how differently each rig reacts to all the courses. for whatever reason i am drawn to the trx4m platform but you really cannot dismiss how versatile and capable any type of scx24 build is. it's incredible how much size and parts selection can make or break a course layout. that 24 comp build completly dominated! it was probably the cheapest to build too! what people tend to forget about these trucks is you don't have to choose this or that, just get them all and build them how you want! when i have a "crawler day" i bring everything, that's the fun part about this hobby is you can see how well all your rigs do. on a side note i am having good success with my trx4m rear steer project and i finished my indoor course as well. you've definitly ignited my passion for these little nuggets

[@CapeCrawlers]

You are so right on all accounts. I’m just like you: I bring a hoard of them when I take them out! I enjoy each one for their own reasons too. So much fun.

[@henrywood5462]

I gotta say I prefer the look of the TRX4 M. The body looks much more proportional and I love the black paint but from a performance standpoint I’d pick the SCX24. Smaller, lighter, and years of aftermarket support

[@CapeCrawlers]

I do love the black trx4m as well!

[@leotruuut245]

I definitely prefer the red and black of the SCX24, I just love these agressive looking tires! But both look pretty cool.

[@joykuo8971]

do you think TRX4M will get more aftermarket parts in the future compare to SCX24?

[@AgentChachi]

@@joykuo8971it’s Traxxas, they’ll have tons of aftermarket parts! Now, a year later, maybe just as many!

[@RichardM479]

​@@AgentChachiExactly, idk what parts are available for an scx24 that aren't for a trx4m?

[@bobward7508]

You guys are awesome!!! Thanks for all the inspo! I can only imagine how much work you put into these videos!

[@thomasolson6126]

It would be really neat if you could possibly do a break down on the builds of these trucks

[@Echoboyadventure]

Your channel is so awesome, i just got into the hobby and modded a scx24 bronco. I found 1/24 scale paradise today while driving in the mountains

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@McStiffles]

Thank you for these comprehensive review videos. I just order a TRX4m and a bunch of upgrades thanks to your videos. Im excited to put it together and get it in motion!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! Have fun!

[@HellaNorCal916]

The more the merrier. Scx,Trx4m,Fcx....I think it's great and really a fun time to be into 24 scale.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Absolutely agree!

[@Abracourcix71]

Love your videos! I really like the fact that you don’t pick one or another for a clear winner… I was not a 1/24 fan but love so much to see what people can do with these little beasts. Seeing videos like this one is fun and very useful to understand the pros and cons with all the thing we can do with them. I’m in love with the little traxxas but will never bash axial. I’m in to mod my TRX4M Bronco into a “Furitek Cayman Pro’ish” clone… With all the weight out, i think it will be a solid contender! Wonder if you will do something like this in a future video? You Bronco built is not far from that… Thank’s for your good work! 👍

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you, and thanks for watching! I think my Bronco could benefit from losing some weight. I may experiment with that soon. Maybe even bringing it back in line with a more scale appearance as well.

[@egibson2266]

Great vid, been waiting for this since the original comparison. You did a good job of showing their capabilities without making it a competition, cause it simple isn’t as you pointed out so thank you. With that being said, I am glad I went with the scx Bronco (before I saw your bronco build videos, I just could say no to that body…). The size makes more sense to be, although they are very close in size, the TRX is kiiiiinda stepping out of “micro crawler” territory to me, it seemed big in comparison . This is my first and won’t be my last, I have dove head first into the deep end with these guys and couldn’t be happier.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I too really like the size of the SCX24. It's more practical for what we do with these. But I sure do love the Traxxas too. Can't go wrong with either!

[@greggrube2948]

I think the scx24 had it's moments , but the trx-4 was no slouch by any means. All n all after the smoke cleared you built two fantastic crawling machines . That comp 24 is an awesome lean, mean, crawling machine !!!! Great video Adam 👍😁

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you! The traxxas is a monster, no doubt. That comp rig is downright lethal! I need to do a follow up video on it and I will soon.

[@rekik66]

I like that there is more competition in the micro crawlers. 1/18 and 1/24 options.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Great time to be in the hobby!

[@HellaNorCal916]

Absolutely 👍🏼

[@LJKRC420]

Great video! Love where the mods have taken the rigs! Thanks for sharing the ideas and upgrades.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@WarrenJR-11]

Nice video Adam. Very informative and fun to watch. Your mods are the best on youtube.

[@ricardomota939]

At 19 mins you can see the trx4m shock came undone and is hanging under the car! that things a trooper! lol

[@andrewandrew4446]

Both rigs have turned out awesome man! 👌 about to start my own.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! Enjoy your build!

[@Silverandgoldgiveaways]

I have both and I have an element enduro for my kid. I have pry $800 in my scx24 but just recently got the trx4m. However my favorite is the trx4.

[@stratosamv7119]

This is what I was expecting to see Scx24 is proabably the best platform when fully upgraded although I’ve seen the fcx24 2fm rc built and I’m sweating bullets wondering if my rig can beat it in a comp.

[@CapeCrawlers]

The FCX is a monster!

[@bobcog0001]

even with upgrades the trx4m is better simply because of its scale, you are able to fit far more powerful motors and wheels to it, it is probably still heavier even with the carbon fibre chassis, keeping it planted. 1/18th and 1/24th may not seem like a gigantic diference visually but in terms of performance it is pretty huge.

[@ememeable]

Love your videos Love all your objective variables Solid Evaluation Thank you

[@toddarmour1815]

I love these videos. I'm a noob and so thankful for all your hard work!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@OCHO.008]

SCX 24 all day for me. looking forward to invest in my second RC. it may be FMS.

[@GraveDigger78]

I was wondering if you ever got the pro scale light kit to work with the avatar? I just finished my TRX4M Furitek build and was sad when only the bumper lights worked.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I never did unfortunately.

[@akkdm1]

I agree the TRX4m is quite finicky with mods. I tried and failed time after time to stop the shocks from binding and causing body lift and imbalance. I don’t dare touch my current setup because it sits at stock height but has all the flex I need without major mods to the servo mount or springs. Only things I may add are more brass and a motor from Holmes Hobbies.

[@CapeCrawlers]

The point of diminishing returns with modifications seems to arrive a lot sooner than with the Axial. What are you running for a shock setup?

[@akkdm1]

@@CapeCrawlers Stock in front, Losi Mini T with SCX24 internal springs in the rear and ScaleRCs shock keys. I did notice the upper connecting rods interfere with the steering servo, restricting the front suspension travel. Dremel helped with that.

[@nickt9467]

Could you do one of these but run them on the same tires to highlight the vehicle capability a bit more? Thx man

[@slamboy66]

On the vertical chute, what is the surface made of for traction ?🤔🤔🤔

[@CapeCrawlers]

It’s pretty grippy. I used joint compound and sprinkled it with sand

[@LauraDelvecchio]

at 19:07 it looks like the rear right shock has broken off its mount from the axle

[@CapeCrawlers]

You have good eyes! I had to go back and analyze this. I think what you're seeing is the flex extensions. It places the lower shock mount behind the axle and makes it appear to be detached.

[@LauraDelvecchio]

@@CapeCrawlers Oh that's interesting! I don't have a crawler this small so I don't know all about the intricacies of them lol but this video sure made me want one!

[@chriscox1726]

I would love to see a 1/24 scale brushless rockbouncer with 4 wheel steer of course my hope is Axial will set the stage for this

[@MMRCx]

Great vid, thank you! Its hard not to buy a trx4m but I kinda want to max out the upgrading of the scx24 first based on your recommendations 😅

[@CapeCrawlers]

Can't go wrong either way! The Traxxas is fun because it's something new and different but the SCX24 is so rewarding because of the transformation it makes.

[@jesseserna4490]

U got me to buy a axial bronco for the upgrades… my buddy got me a hoss and and trx4 defender on the way but after seeing this I couldn’t resist something for my son to compete with me lol thanks!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Have fun!

[@ClevelandRips]

Another awesome vid brother! I have to say, your channel is squared away! You motivate me to up my game on my channel!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks, I appreciate that! It's been a great journey and is always a work in progress.

[@Arturito2017]

Trx4m for me. Still has ton of parts coming for it in the near future.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I'm sure the aftermarket will be enormous within six months. It's growing so fast!

[@klutch4878]

Hey, you wouldn't know or maybe be able to make a short on the difference in depth for the outer lip on the injora negative offset stamped steel and the injora stamped steel mounted reversed? Looking to upgrade to one of those but don't know if the reversed mounted will have to deep a lip for my style.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I can do that. I'll try to get it done in the next day or so.

[@klutch4878]

@@CapeCrawlers thanks that would be awesome. I've searched online, KZbin, and in Facebook groups but couldn't find anything where people would compare the difference if there is any. But to me it looks like the reversed gives you a more deeper dish. Keep up the great work really enjoy your videos.

[@allyoucando8486]

The Trx4m is 1/18 because of the body, the frame is similar in length to mini Gladiator, and if put over the chassis mini Gladiator you will se both have the same scale. The scale is different because of the body nothing else. In my case I buy the mini Capra the last Friday, where I go I don't need to make to many change, they climb really well and I have more options because the 1/10 shocks and links share some similar, now the first upgrade will be tires and I will using redcat beadlock, they add weight not to much, but will increase mass rotation not to much

[@CapeCrawlers]

There's huge value in the UTB18 I feel. I love ours. It's just too capable for our little courses, which isnt a bad problem to have!

[@staragape7999]

Sidehilling is skewed by the rear tire on the trx pulling the body over

[@chrisperrywv]

Man, the red on that axial pops so nice

[@CapeCrawlers]

I love that red color. Axial nailed it with the body colors on these I feel

[@RickyD1968]

You should use the same kind of tires on both RC crawlers ???

[@andrewrichey7374]

Yeah awesome cape crawlers, I’m here watching wouldn’t miss it 👍👍😎

[@brianargo1659]

Too much glass can be as bad if not worse than no flex it all because in some cases the rig may need to carry the back trailing tire across a void. Inflexible allowed into dip possibly flip the rig over

[@CapeCrawlers]

Very true

[@seanmuehlhauser9612]

On the side hill what would you say is different that would keep the scx24 planted?

[@thebrooklynite5838]

If you don’t mind sharing the cost of each build, it would be great to know which one gives more bang for the buck.

[@CapeCrawlers]

They were $400-$600 each, with the traxxas being less expensive by ~$100-150

[@andrewrichey7374]

Heck yeah look like it was a lot of fun, love the black bronco my favorite color

[@blk99cougar]

I love the tire and wheel combo on the scx24. Where can I get them? BTW I am partial to the scx24 I have 3 I bought and 1 I built from the frame up with all spare parts. Thank you.

[@CapeCrawlers]

The wheels are from RCAWD and the tires are LGRP grippers

[@blk99cougar]

@@CapeCrawlers thank you.

[@williamduarte6089]

Hello, what shock mounts are you using for the rear? I live the stance on your rig 🤘🏼

[@CapeCrawlers]

I’m using flex extensions from adaptive designs on Etsy. I have them on the rear only

[@2004jpepper]

On the scx24 what body seems to have best low center of gravity (and is also good for flex even if fenders need modified)??? I'd think one of the pick-ups but what do you think?

[@bassingbasics6621]

Bang for the Buck the trx4m takes it every time. There’s just so much you get in such a small price point.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I love the traxxas

[@HellaNorCal916]

Except bearings 😢

[@prob6999]

Good video I wish you took off the rear tire on the trx4m I think it would have been a closer match up

[@CapeCrawlers]

It probably would have, but even with the spare tire on it outperformed the scx24 on the climbing I feel

[@gaugemalchow9662]

Love the vid man

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@ericfaley9019]

I have both the Trx4M Red Bronco and the Scx24 Gladiator. Out of the box the TRX is better rig. I have a small course in. Y front yard the TRX box stock did almost all of it. I then did the Traxxas bead lock rims with brass rings. A noticeable improvement. The Scx24 could do about 1/2 my course. I found it either flopped over very easily or the wheels would just spin. I’ll be visiting my local hobby store for tires/rims and some brass for the Scx24.

[@CapeCrawlers]

It takes a lot for the SCX24 to really capable. I agree with you about the out of the box advantages of the Traxxas.

[@mzondi1970]

Which one would you take stock versus stock I'm going to slowly build one up but I want a decent performer out of the box

[@Kevin_Jones]

Would slightly more ground clearance on the trx4m counter the short wheel base of the scx24? Maybe it would reduce some of the belly drag??

[@CapeCrawlers]

Probably. It will be interesting to see if anyone makes a set of portals for the M!

[@brianargo1659]

Longer wheelbase and bigger size make some major difference huh? She said. And it sounded like you said you had a difficult time sticking you're line through their.

[@CapeCrawlers]

The M crushed the vertical lines but it's bigger size made it difficult to stick clean lines through the rock course.

[@BlackCrownRC30]

This is what ive wanted to see thanks for that also would you be able to let me know what tires your running on the scx24

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! Tires are the LGRP Gripper tires.

[@BlackCrownRC30]

@@CapeCrawlers they look very good on this build i just ordered them thanks for showing both rcs do great at what they do i must say tho i enjoy the scx more than the trx mostly cause of the size and ease of the crawling.

[@Toghay]

Which shocks are on the Trx4m? Greetings from Germany😊

[@AddictRC]

Great video, very impressive what modifications did to both trucks, Im going to take a wild guess that the 3 traxxas parts in the TRX4M is, body, light kit, stock spare tire?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Battery tray, body/bumpers, transmission was what I was thinking initially. Forgot about the tire and fog lights!

[@dustin6828]

Mancave sign needs a full send to Goodwill bud

[@jak3est]

Im kinda intrigued with these small scale crawlers 🤔 just when i thought i didnt need more rc's

[@paulogarcia1305]

Where to get the wheelset on that SCX24? Nice

[@EladioValle]

Sorry but anyone knows what wheels and tires is running the trx4m bronco? They look great and I want to try them on my defender

[@naz7493]

Could you list all the parts you used for your FCX 24? 👊🏽 and where you got them

[@CapeCrawlers]

I’ll pull it together for another build video on that thing soon. Most of it was from rcawd.

[@beemsquar1]

Another great video, loving your channel. Unless I missed it, I would be interested to know the total cost spent on mods for each rig. It might sway opinions knowing the cost/performance ratio. Being new to the hobby this is probably the biggest factor for me. Looking forward to the next video👍

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! I would have to tally up the costs, but I am guessing it's $400-600, with the Traxxas being $100-150 less than the Axial.

[@beemsquar1]

@@CapeCrawlers that is interesting. I was expecting the Traxxas to have cost more overall. A video on a stock Furitek caymen RTR vs these two and your modded FCX24 would make good viewing. 😁😉

[@SavageJoe_]

Such awesome looking rigs, maybe one day I’ll get a scale crawler/trail vehicle.

[@CapeCrawlers]

They’re super fun and the small size is great for indoor fun during the winter

[@SavageJoe_]

@@CapeCrawlers in my mind I could already see me setting up a course indoors lol.

[@rodz017]

Kool video I have a trx4m semi modded but I feel it not really a crawler compared to my modded FCX24 ....would be nice if you could do a video on FCX24 vs TRX4M fully modded.....I think FCX24 will destroy TRX4M with 1 eye openn lol ....your videos helped me a lot thank you

[@CapeCrawlers]

I threw in my modded fcx24 in the end to demonstrate exactly that! The fcx24 is a monster

[@rodz017]

@CapeCrawlers my bad I didn't watch that part towards the end yet cuz I'm at work now thanks

[@grandmasteraj855]

I’d love to see you build an ultimate mini z 4x4 and see if you can get it to compete with the big dogs.

[@CapeCrawlers]

A couple people have asked me that question. I'll have to check them out more closely.

[@CarlosJimenez-cg8gh]

Are you running foam in the scx24 tires ?

[@TheSchnibra]

The stance on the traxxis Erks me, what would happen if you put a stiffer spring in the back to even the stance? Would it seriously hinder the performance?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Probably not hinder it, but I had a hard time finding the spring that balanced it out. The chassis has TONS of mounting positions, so the height could be adjusted pretty simply.

[@ripomarc6090]

Hello, What is the best mini crawler out there for you? In general

[@CapeCrawlers]

I still feel like it's the SCX24 (deadbolt or C10). However, the Hobby Plus CR18P Evo should not be overlooked.

[@ripomarc6090]

@@CapeCrawlers thanks

[@pimpinchevy75]

Are you running flex blades on the front of the trx4m?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I was initially but I removed them and only ran them on the back (still do)

[@rcglock9608]

What servo is in the trx4m and is it worth buying? My stock servo stripped a gear and I'm contemplating between the traxxas 2065x or the reefs 99 but the one ur using looks different

[@CapeCrawlers]

It’s the nsdrc rs100. I think it’s worth buying. It’s very strong! And it’s not a lot more money than the Traxxas replacement

[@rcglock9608]

Thank you so much for replying. I'll check it out. Do u think it's stronger than the reefs 99?

[@rcglock9608]

So the reefs 99 @ 6v has 89 oz in of torque and the nsdrc rs100m has 120 oz in of torque @ 6v according to their specs. And it's $5 cheaper. Looks like we have a winner. But that injora servo looks pretty good to and it comes with metal horn and metal mount

[@adamh9077]

Traxxas is a club and axial is a surgical knife. I feel performance wise the axial killed the Traxxas but Traxxas has the scale looks. I choose axial all day long for competition

[@CapeCrawlers]

Great analogy! I agree with you.

[@유튭보자-x6z]

It's so cool. I'm curious about the full upgrade cost.

[@CapeCrawlers]

The Axial I have ~$600 into I think. The Traxxas is ~$150 less.

[@natedawg5150]

Man it looks like the only thing left stock on your bronco is the body. Is theire any other traxxas parts left on it?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Axle housings, battery tray, transmission I think!

[@famvanprooijen9136]

i spend so much money on my trx4m and i cant seem to get it to do better at crawling performance and idk why 1: it doesnt grip no matter what tires i use. 2: its insane top heave while ive put masive wheel weights on it and even diy weights that are from super heavy metal plates. i jsut cant seem to let it crawl better. and the body articulation is so bad for some reason

[@kppaul13]

How did you get the traxxas light kit to work

[@CapeCrawlers]

On the trx4m it was a simple plug and play

[@shannonsutherland1409]

What shocks are you running

[@gabbo1367]

Does anyone know what the rear shock absorber mounts are called? (Trx4m)

[@CapeCrawlers]

I'm running a full aftermarket chassis (furitek grasshopper), but the shock mounts are called shock keys by a lot of the folks 3D printing them.

[@gabbo1367]

@@CapeCrawlers Thanks Bro 👍🏻

[@rydog3407]

If it was up to me id pick the scx because the scx have years of support, parts, mods in gereral. The traxxas has after market parts but not as much.

[@hdsport06]

Is your indoor course made of spray foam?

[@CapeCrawlers]

A combination of spray foam and plaster sheets

[@megryktwiss4347]

What tires do you have on the scx24?

[@CapeCrawlers]

LGRP grippers. Love them!

[@andrewrichey7374]

Yeah awesome I love the power wagon my favorite

[@CapeCrawlers]

The power wagon is a monster!

[@karliarias7040]

When is the giveaway going to be announced?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Tomorrow around noon EST

[@RCCrawlerz209]

Tbh, as cool as the TRX4m is, I think I'd stick with Axial & go with the SCX24 Bronco, if I chose out of the 2. 🤨

[@CapeCrawlers]

I adore the scx24 bronco. There’s just something about it that I find so cool.

[@RCCrawlerz209]

@@CapeCrawlers Agreed

[@ArmynOverlord]

If you could only afford to buy one mini crawler and mod it what one would you buy?

[@CapeCrawlers]

SCX24 gladiator with a good wheel/tire combo!

[@seniorxj2931]

Should of used the same tires on each rig.

[@Caliwarriorkent]

Tbh I hate to say it but I gave up on the scx24 bronco, I bought it and I did everything I could to make it preform well, until I realized that if I just did a body swap, it would preform way better😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@OldeSchoolRcUk]

Strange how the scx24 is getting slated. You all appear to be forgetting that the scx24 is 24th scale and the TRX4 mini is 18th scale and larger. Jsut let that sink in ;)

[@neongecko3065]

Exactly and they’re almost the same price, only the Scx24 feels like toy grade in comparison

[@beastycide]

Build list for the tr4m?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I'll have to pull it together. I put the list in each TRX4M video so I can try to pull it all together.

[@heatherrowe7207]

How much Is the trx4m build

[@CapeCrawlers]

Probably ~$400 at this point

[@rcjoe406]

How much heavier is the trx4m?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Nearly 300g

[@rcjoe406]

@@CapeCrawlers wow cool

[@nicholasstephey8475]

For a 24 to compete with a 18. That makes it the winner

[@CapeCrawlers]

Compete and even come out on top in some scenarios!

[@urdonercjeremyburris7541]

Carolina squat bronco. Being like all the cool kids

[@brianargo1659]

Are you sure it's not more like a David against David Showdown

[@CapeCrawlers]

If one David was a professional bodybuilder and other a crossfitter, than yes.

[@isaiahbelt7712]

Would be sweet if that sing said crawler cave

[@CapeCrawlers]

Crawler cave.. I should put up a sign that says that over my basement course!

[@dankstank2603]

Bro you got a brother or someone who lives in st. George??

[@CapeCrawlers]

Not that I know of! Do I have a lookalike there?

[@dankstank2603]

@@CapeCrawlers Yessir, it’s like a one to one. He is the nicest guy I know. Thank you for everything you do. Love your videos !!

[@Gibsonlife573]

From Cape Girardeau Missouri that why your name love your channel is like that

[@CapeCrawlers]

Cape Cod, Massachusetts!

[@MineCraftPickAxeXL9]

Their really isnt much difference between a scx24 and trx4m just the trx4m has a bigger skidplate trans and motor

[@keldonator]

Scx24 bronco looked a lot better to me, seems axial made a better grill. I also don't like companies like Traxxas, reminds of the Apple of RCs...

[@VerySpecificlyUnspecific]

Hint: a heavily modified bronco wins

[@CapeCrawlers]

Spoiler alert! 🤣

[@JayMillz517]

NIce.

[@ConspiracyManDan]

Okay so now the size isn't even an issue on this head-to-head. This isn't even a Traxxas or a axial anymore. Neither one of the chassis a stock and the only thing you comparing now are the bodies on modified everything everything's modified So the only thing that's any good you're just comparing one Komodo to another Komodo system on two different tile types of frames they're not even what you said they're not modified on their own frames nor are they modified comparably in weight or size still still not right

[@ConspiracyManDan]

I would love to see the Traxxas TRX4 stock against the FJ Toyota 18th scale from that one other company I forget the name of it right now

[@ConspiracyManDan]

Both of them stock and then modify the FJ Toyota 18 scale and the TRX4M and then put modification without changing the frame make sure that they weigh the same and that they have the same tires. That would be a cool thing to see and I like your course by the way it's very cool

[@ConspiracyManDan]

I would also like to see more of your course with a complete run of all your different vehicles that'd be cool