SHOWDOWN - TRX4M VS SCX24 - Battle for the Mini RC Crawler Crown!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Timestamps Visual comparison: 2:44 Key features comparison: 7:59 Turning radius comparison: 14:58 Performance tests: 17:01 Vertical climbing: 18:20 Side hill: 19:21 Crawler course runs: 21:21 Challenge lines: 30:41 Top speed: 36:51 Final thoughts and conclusion: 37:05

[@JasonGunn418]

Traxxas doesn't have a warranty. This was unfair because of the size difference. This test should have never taken place.

[@CapeCrawlers]

@@JasonGunn418 I admit it is not a level playing field because of the size difference. But there are lots of people out there who want to know how the Traxxas compares to the Axial. So its more of a demonstration of the two and a comparison.

[@JasonGunn418]

@@CapeCrawlers I would always go with Axial, because they just have better electronics. They also honor their product. I have a lot of Traxxas crawlers, but with Axial electronics installed. I usually junk Traxxas marked items, with the exception if Castle made it.

[@kghhgkgk6322]

@@CapeCrawlers ignore that guy. This is the EXACT video I was looking for

[@AM562]

13:00 on other models of Traxxas just hold that button until the light turns off and that will turn off the Traxxas

[@austinmccarthy9572]

16:18 TRX4M turning radius is almost as tight as your shirt. 😅 In all seriousness your channel is awesome! Thanks for the solid quality videos you provide. 🎉

[@bigt539]

😂

[@ItsDogger]

just ordered both trx4ms. got a grey Defender and a red Bronco. will be my first rcs ever and im hyped as i got the 2nd for my buddies as well.

[@NukePooch1]

Been 20 years since I've been in R/C cars. I just bought a red SCX24 Bronco, waiting for it to be shipped in. The biggest selling points for me are the tiny size and the aftermarket for the Axial. The Traxxas looked impressive, but the Axial will be amazing crawling over my office desk, LOL.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I totally understand that. I love being able to challenge the truck with little to no space. And the aftermarket is sooooo deep for the scx24.

[@havikhobbies]

Yeah the little scx24 can't run same lines but that's half the fun! Back when I spent time wheeling real trucks I owned two Suzuki's. I had a hard top Sierra (Samurai) lifted on 31's and a Grand Vitara lifted on 30's. Those little trucks would go anywhere the big Land Cruisers and Patrols would go and then some! But you weren't running the same line's, you have to exploit the strengths of the vehicle your driving without exposing too many of its weaknesses!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Great point. The narrow stance and shorter wheelbase of the scx24 can be a real advantage just as they would in the real world

[@Benjamins_RC_Channel]

…and who wants to be stuck in one scale of RC? Don’t they say variety is the spice? I get some people who have limited funds and need to make a decision, but all these crawlers of various scale all have their charms! The real trick is to keep your personal demons at bay when your inner man child says, buy! Buy! Buy! 🤪🤪

[@joebone3151]

The scx 24 was my first crawler I wanted something to learn the area of rcs with and it is perfect I am Def gonna pick up the trx 4m a bigger size b easier to get traxxas parts where I live and c it still fits in my back pack

[@chrisgould5606]

It's really hard to compare these great trucks because of scale differences alone. That said, I own both and I love both. But I've done upgrades to both. I've noticed performance improvements on both trucks. I started with the SCX24 jeep and ended up converting it to the Bronco hard body. And I added brass parts to make it less top heavy. The TRX 4M I've changed bushings to bearings and the gears. It runs much smoother now. But I'll probably add weights to it too. I like them both.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Totally agree, and I also love them both!

[@JaWs738]

I would prefer the SCX as it will be very challenging to drive through those obstacles. But trying out the MN111 Land Rover Defender of 1/18 scale is economical and as fun too !

[@juggie19]

Love to see a 4runner body on the Traxxas

[@lesabre1972]

It may be bouncy but the size difference plays the biggest role no pun intended.

[@jonathanfletcher97]

As someone who’s got a couple SCX24s and a K5 FCX24, I really appreciated this video. Super informative so thanks man for all you do. Definitely been doing a deep dive into your video catalog. It’d be interesting to see if Axial comes out with something in the 18th scale.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@jaybomb5022]

Considering the price point, Traxxas knocked it out of the park!! I purchased the bronco and defender trx4m and love them both after a tire upgrade.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Totally agree. Amazing value!

[@jayman105]

The SCX24 Bronco is awesome, and also was the first. Out of the box, the only drawback is that it's a little bouncy, so you'll need to get more firm shocks and install them. Other than that, the SCX24 is beyond awesome. I have two of them, and I absolutely love them both!

[@CapeCrawlers]

I agree. I love them all!

[@rcjoe406]

I like em both lol we need a fully upgraded scx24 bronco vs stock trx4m video 📹 👍

[@CapeCrawlers]

I do too. And you’ll get that video once I get some more goodies on the traxxas!

[@rcjoe406]

@@CapeCrawlers excellent 👌 👏

[@reapersasmr5483]

This would be closer to fair mooded scx stock trx

[@RCTNT]

This was a brilliant video - I love your even pacing and detailed delivery. It's no surprise your channel is growing so quickly, you're just killing it. Love your work, keep it up! Quick note on batteries: 12:04 re TRX-4m battery: the plug is the balance lead. It's a 2S battery and there are three cables on the battery lead. That's Ground and +ve for cells 1 and 2 = balance! I haven't tested this yet and this is the first video I've watched about the TRX-4m (they're still not in Australia yet, but hopefully they will be soon!!). I've gotta think you could replace any 2S lipo battery's balance plug with this Traxxas 3-pin adapter and you'd be sorted. Shouldn't be too hard to make an adapter, for that matter.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you, I appreciate that! I just posted a part two of this video yesterday where I put the modified versions of these rigs together. I'm starting to see some companies release adapters for these so you can run the more common plugs.

[@jimalton1564]

Thank you for taking the time to do this comparison. I honestly don't think you could go wrong with either one. As a full scale off roader I think it's like a Samurai vs Jeep test. They both have ups and downs, depending on what you are looking for. Sometimes the longer wheelbase and larger size is a benefit, sometimes smaller is better. I'm leaning towards one of the 1/24 rigs because it will mostly be an indoor crawler for the winter or bad weather. The slightly smaller size will make it easier to build a course in our limited space. Plus, at this time, there is a lot more available in the aftermarket for the scx24. Maybe a trx4m will be a good next addition after we get a couple 1/24 crawlers.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Totally agree. Love them both! I really love the aftermarket support for the Axial. It's a platform for the true hobbyist and with a few mods is deadly capable.

[@matusknives]

As someone who has no experience I would prefer the TRX4M out of the box - simply based on how it drives. I am well aware that one can get way more upgrades for the SCX24 as of today, but that will soon be the case for the Traxxas as well and it will probably be easy with either too spend $200 for additional parts. I hope to see more versions in the future - I would love some pickup truck version.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I would love to see a M version of the K10 high trail!

[@matusknives]

@@CapeCrawlers you have my vote! :)

[@Po_goes_brrr]

theres no denying the trx4m's value for its price but i think a really important point to consider is where the truck will be driven, since the scx24 is smaller, its far easier to drive indoors than the trx4m. the scx24 can also be found onsale for $120 which is 30 less than the trx4m. eitherway both are great for what they are.

[@bassingbasics6621]

The only problem with the trx4m is the throttle control and slow crawl is absolutely garbage right out of the box. You’ve really got to change with gear if you want the slow crawl . However the SCX24 has amazing slow crawl out of the box, which allows you to start upgrading right away.

[@greggrube2948]

Awesome video brother, I'm glad I went with the Traxxas. I'm still on the list at my LHS

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! I don’t think you’ll be disappointed

[@SnarkyRC]

Honestly, it would make more sense to compare the Traxxas to other 1/18 scale crawlers. There's a few out there. Just like how there's are few other manufacturers of 1/24 scale crawlers.

[@CapeCrawlers]

It would, but these seem to be the big heavyweight contenders for the mini crawler market.

[@chinooks_]

this is the best comparison ive seen so far, great video man

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@Cormano980]

They're different scales, I don't know how fair this comparison is

[@CapeCrawlers]

Traxxas has a big advantage from the size, that’s true. But the comparison is more about value. If you’re spending $150 and could get either one, here are examples of how they compare.

[@Cormano980]

@@CapeCrawlers for the money I'd go with traxxas, much more stuff than the scx24 , but the 1/24 I think dominates the mini crawler market

[@CapeCrawlers]

@@Cormano980 completely agree.

[@rcfungames]

I think your opinion is 100% right!! I love the scale detail on the axial bronco, but the overall performance from the Traxxas rig is just amazing. I was just shocked how it ate up my scx24 course stock straight out of the box like it was nothing. And a person has spent at least 150 bucks on upgrades for the axial to perform the same as the Traxxas TRX4M straight out of the box!! Great comparison video 🎥🎬💯👍👍👍

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! That was my reaction as well when the traxxas conquered every obstacle on my course!

I have my eye on the 4M Defender now. I already have the SCX24 Bronco but exactly as you say, I have already spent like 80 bucks for various basic upgrades to lower the center of gravity and give it better clearance and I've managed add only 70 grams to the bottom (anything more will require a stronger servo I think). I bought it two months before I learnt that the 4M had come out. If I'd known that I would have gone for the Traxxas probably, as basically for the cost of the Bronco + the worth of a few upgrades you'll still get a better car straight out of the box. Even though my Bronco is much better than stock now, you still run into problems especially when side hilling. The cost of a nice hard body I guess. But I like it anyway, it was my first crawler.

[@lordharr123456]

If you add the bal bearing kit and then add the In the radio of the Tqi with the blu tooth module and a 2nm spacer on the front wheels you increase the steering to 53 degrees steering.

[@CapeCrawlers]

53?! Holy moly.. I can’t imagine it being much tighter! Good stuff 👍🏻

[@SnapperHeadUnlimited]

Great video, the TRX4M is going to be a great choice when companies start producing more aftermarket parts. The UTB18; if you can get around the 1/18* scale not being 1/18 is also a great choice and most likely my next purchase after selling my SCX24’s. Looking forward to your “Top 5” mods and builds for the TRX4M and UTB18.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! The traxxas is going to be mighty impressive after the aftermarket get ahold of it. I adore the Capra!

[@PanSmajl]

This Christmas I'm purchasing some cheap MN99s for me and my son but if we get hooked on this hobby, then my "real" purchase will be either UTB18 or this TRX4M and reviews on this channel help tremendously! ;) Thanks.

[@zachlong7660]

Traxxas has a pretty large hopup line for it already

[@StubbsRC]

*utb12* 🤣🤣🤣

[@originalkontrol]

I agree, the TRX4M is a more quality and capable feeling platform. The Defender is gorgeous, and was my choice in the end as I wanted to build a more scale looking crawler this time round. And with just a few inexpensive mods, it can be a reasonably capable crawler. Nice comparo!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! My son has the green defender and it is indeed amazing. We got him the trailer and it looks so cool hauling stuff around. It's a great platform!

[@originalkontrol]

@@CapeCrawlers I'm def interested in the trailer, and a few other scale goodies!

[@jumbo8673]

Traxxas hit it out of the park with this one! And the price is great. Just picked up the defender and it does great. Lovin the vids, keep it up.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I agree. Huge value! Thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@fishnrc294]

Ya your right you definitely can’t compare the 2 but it’s interesting to see the difference in performance. The SCX just has no chance to outperform it. Maybe if it was highly modified but the M is still a better deal for the money. Can you imagine putting the M against the 1:18 scale Capra it’s the same thing it would just be unfair 2 completely different RC’s.

[@CapeCrawlers]

The Traxxas is a great value in my eyes because it’s able to drive in the same small spaces as the axial but performs so well while doing so. With ~$150 the axial could hang I think. But then if you put that same amount into the Traxxas, you’d widen that gap again. It will be fun to build out the traxxas and see what’s it’s capable of!

[@Brian_Mowry__BMOW71]

Nice vid and comparison! Great rundown and explanation of both rigs!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you! And thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@RCBirds]

Great comparison. The bigger M might be better or as you said has big advantages out of it's bigger size. I decided to go for 24 right months ago and don't want to change it. The M looks more attractive now. Maybe more parts for upgrades might change my mind. Here the 24 wins

[@CapeCrawlers]

This was a tough conclusion on my part!! I would hate to be in a position to choose between the two. The customization of the scx24 is that X factor that makes it incredibly fun and enjoyable to own. Plus the axial platform responds so well to mods. The chassis and servo design of the traxxas will never allow it to perform like the scx24 can with upgrades.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

nice comparison. It pretty much confirmed my experiences. The stock SCX24 is good for crawling up couch cushions and not much else. The slightly larger size of the TRX4m makes a huge difference on real terrain.

[@roaldgabrielsen3774]

really nice comparing, thanks, i am going for the Trx4M, hope i did the right choise, Roald Norway

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! I hope you love the TRX4M. It's a great machine.

[@petejones6827]

THE TIRE COVER COMES OFF ON THE TRAXXAS AND BEHIND IT IS A HEX SPARE TIRE MOUNT IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH WIEGHT UPFRONT FROM BRASS WHEELS AND DIFF COVERS AND SUCH THE TAKE THE COVER OFF AND PUT A TRUE SPARE ON THERE IT LOOKS SO COOL AND YOU ARE WELCOME.

[@HOUSECAT47]

I just got the trx4m on a trip to my local hobby store for parts for my 1/10 scale drift car in hopes it would entertain me in between waiting on parts for my drift car and I have now allocated money to fully building out my trx4m and in the market for a axeial scx24 to in the future fully build both for me and my wife love the video

[@frobs]

your videos are always soo good! thank you for this nice comparison. I decided for the Land Rover but the Bronco looks sick too!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you! I got son the defender and it looks glorious.

[@jimbo4203]

Good stuff , I'm loving the trx4m right now , but I still like my scx24 's , there just getting a little rest

[@CapeCrawlers]

I like your thinking! I am also having a blast with the trx4m, but the scx24’s still have a special place in my heart 🤣

[@asplenia]

What a great job! I have watched your channel from the beginning, and you are well on you way for a professional channel! Keep up the great work! Asplenia.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you, I appreciate that!

[@shafiqjan1474]

For Traxxas stuff, I will just stick with my OG Slash and mini Slash brushless 4x4. For mini crawling, my 3 Axial SCX24s win with me. I am already in too deep.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I understand that. It's fun to have something new to tinker with though!

[@shafiqjan1474]

@@CapeCrawlers plenty to tinker with here, I am up to my ears with 1:28 race builds. 🤗

[@StubbsRC]

The trx-4m best first mod was the crawler gears. Made a huge difference. And only $5 from traxxas

[@CapeCrawlers]

Agreed, huge improvement!

[@AddictRC]

Great video finally finished watching it also all traxxas battery’s have a balance plug in their normal lead making it easy and the bigger battery’s have ID so just plug and play

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@lesabre1972]

I feel the size had a big deal to do with it!

[@mikemontgomery1970]

I can really understand if you do a comparison of the two classes of crawlers. But it really doesn't make sense to compare the two crawlec

[@CapeCrawlers]

No, it doesn’t. But a lot of people were excited for it. If anything it will show them side by side so folks can make an informed decision between the two.

[@Secondrunnerup613]

SCX24 wins hands down. Traxxas is just too late in the game. Now they just wrote a cease and desist letter to aftermarket companies to stop producing aftermarket parts. Traxxas is done with their trx4m and they just left the gate. Besides, who wants the 1:18?? It's an odd size and parts will be way more expensive than the 1:24.

[@propphotographyaz9992]

You ever do any soldering videos? A soldering video showing how to change battery connectors on that goofy Traxxas model to something a bit more industry standard. Like xt30 or a deans connector for example. Love your videos. I just got a mini deadbolt so I'm digging all your vids

[@RCPropaganda]

Wow did not know you had a KZbin as well. Only ever seen you on Instagram then just saw this video pop up. Great stuff.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! I’ve been on KZbin for ~6-7 months now. Love this platform for in-depth content!

[@bradkraus9268]

Great video. I like both but decided on the Traxxas and ordered it today.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! I think you’ll enjoy it!

[@HobbyPerfeXion]

Great comparison so long as the focus is on "sub $200 mini crawlers". As you mentioned, the scale difference between the two leads to a not fair comparison when driving. But when you look at what you get bone stock in the price range, the Traxxas is a way better value - stock for stock. But, when you factor in the controllers, the Axial wins as Traxxas missed including some basic settings in the minimalist controller. I wouldn't rule out getting a TRX4M, but there's so much going on in the "mini" space right now, and such a strong aftermarket for the Axials that I don't know that it's top on my list. Traxxas' proprietary ways make me want to stay away from them. Stuff like their unique battery connectors and stuff like that which kind of force you into purchasing solely from them at typically premium prices is pretty lame to me. So that kind of turns me off. Just my thoughts...At any rate, this was a great vid showcasing the pros and cons of both rigs.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you! I look at Traxxas like the Apple of the crawler world: beautiful, practical product with proprietary features that force you to buy more Traxxas items. Axial is like Samsung: open source OS, modify to your hearts content!

[@HobbyPerfeXion]

@@CapeCrawlers so freakin' spot on dude! I was going to say the same thing but figured I'd get flamed by all the Apple fans. And true to what you said, I'm a Samsung/Android guy lol.

[@randallmccoy8581]

I agree. Proprietary tech is a TRAP. Very loathsome technique for any company to employ in order to get you to keep buying their products. If they want repeat customers, all they have to do is offer good product at a good price. There are "willing" buyers out here but people don't like getting stuck with one companies parts list or product line against their will.

[@jermss7624]

But you can swap battery plugs.

[@user-gw7zx9dq8t]

I just picked up the defender and I absolutely love this little thing haven't done much it's stock just having so much fun Building obstacles and seeing what this can do love your videos keep it up I do want to upgrade this rig what should I start out with first

[@TummaBomberi09]

Thank u for this video!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@rbeezd1636]

I have a scx24 c10 with a bunch of upgrades and im planning to get the traxxas trx4 old bronco

[@CapeCrawlers]

I think you'll like the traxxas!

[@stefan-norge]

Great review Adam, you have put a lot of work in it and the result is according to that, well done 👍😃

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! It’s a labor of love

[@2004jpepper]

On the scx24 what body seems to have best low center of gravity (and is also good for flex even if fenders need modified)??? I'd think one of the pick-ups but what do you think?

[@StubbsRC]

The traxxas battery lead is 3 wire, it's got it's balance lead built into the plug.

[@BP-bb4vg]

Awesome video! Thanks for this, it made up my mind. I ordered one. I do have one question, if your using the supplied battery how long can you crawl around like in the video? 15 mins or so?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! On stock setups I get around 30-40 mins. Longer with the traxxas.

[@motorcityrcattack9872]

Try some green slime in the factory shocks for a small amount of dampening.

[@midwestern_rc]

Didn’t know about the crawl mode on the TRX4M! Gonna change that on mine as the stock mode is not fun

[@CapeCrawlers]

Check it out for sure! It doesn’t change the power delivery, but the drag brake helps.

[@christopherjones7092]

Nice video, but how does TRX4m compare to something like your flexed out SCX24. I could be wrong but I don’t see guys getting that kind of flex out of the TRX4m like you have on some of your other SCX builds? What are your thoughts?

[@CapeCrawlers]

My built scx24’s smash the life out of the trx4m. I think the chassis layout will forever limit the capabilities of the traxxas. Unless someone can change the servo mounting position. Even then the frame design isn’t going to allow the articulation like the axial I don’t believe. The scx24 is the best platform to customize and modify in my opinion.

[@christopherjones7092]

@@CapeCrawlers Thank you for your reply. This is the information I was looking for. While stock side by side no mods TRX, little tinkering and few mods SCX for the win. Definitely going to head that route. Thanks again!

[@prograde_adv]

Maybe try adding some weight on the rims to help plant that sucker to terrain. I got the Land Rover and added weight and new springs and helped a ton!

[@CapeCrawlers]

I added brass wheels to the traxxas and it made a world of difference!

[@jamstaa69]

Would you say it’s worth changing the gears so it crawls better? I think I’ve seen a vid, maybe yours, wonder how that effect the three mode selection. TIA..

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes, the gears make a world of difference!

[@lyleallyssanashookpuk3636]

Thank you for saying ’Mini’. Hate it when people say ‘micro’ lol. NOTHING ‘micro’ about these RCs.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I just picked up a orlandoo hunter kit, now that’s a micro!

[@chrisfeaka4250]

I understand why you did a video like this. In my mind they are eay to fifferent to compare. Also ithink its worth mentioning the after market world. If w going to run it out of the box ill give it to the traxxis .if you want to tinker and build something amazing. The. Scx24 hands down. The traxxis is a better rtr platform. The scx24 it where tru hobbyists will turn to everything

[@CapeCrawlers]

You nailed it. The scx24 is the hobbyist and tinkerers dream.

[@steph4050]

Good review :) Wondering, is it possible to get the SXC24 oil shock part? I am not a fan of basic plastic shock.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! Yes, there are now several good oil filled shocks for the SCX24. Proline just released some big bore scaler shocks for the 1/24 and Hot Racing, Injora, and Treal make them as well.

[@steph4050]

@@CapeCrawlers ok I will check it out! Thanks! Grear channel. Keep the good work! Subscribed.

[@luislll5842]

Guys if u have a bit of binding in ur trxm4 try putting like some sort of lube or wd-40 in the front right where that wheel is if u turn u can see it a little better where ur bushing or bearing is just add a little their and keep using it until u don’t have much binding it helps a big sometimes it solves it

[@CapeCrawlers]

Good advice!

[@offshore1987]

Really injoyed the video, thank you 👍

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@timjohnson9406]

I have to say I agree with your assessment! I definitely like the looks of the scx better. You definitely should do a defender comparison with the traxxas bronco.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I’ll put up some defender content soon. I’ve got some goodies coming for that one as well!

[@andrewrichey7374]

I enjoyed bronco against Bronco, catch on the next one

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@rcgeordiecrawler2710]

I finally got my Black TRX-4M earlier than said and i love it ❤. I’m with you on this one Adam. As much as i like my SCX24 Bronco i think TRX is better value. I put my RC4WD Black Rhino rims with the Mickey Thomson Baja X tyres on and it totally changed the look of it 😍😍. I love how smooth the motor is and cant wait for my slow gears coming. My SCX24 will smash it now though with the Brushless system in and the long travel shocks in droop, plus i love the red that it came in 😍😍😍. Awesome video yet again Adam and looking forward to see what you do with it next with all the upgrades. Top channel on KZbin ❤️🤜🏻🤛🏻🤙🏻👍🏻

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! You’re going to love that traxxas with the crawler gears. It works wonders!

[@zozo_letsplayz850]

the batt plug IS ALSO THE BALLENCE PLUG

[@theglassmaker1122]

I think people saying the 24 looks better are people who haven't looked at the two side by side in person or they are just in denial and refuse to own traxxas. The M is just so much more pleasing to crawl with stock. Even with a modified 24, I spend more time re-adjusting the course and flipping it back than I do, actually driving it. The bronco it's set the courses and drive, one and done. I've already been stripping my 24 for parts as it collects dust. even though I'll never sell it. It'll probably end up in a parts box before long.

[@CapeCrawlers]

The traxxas is a heck of a machine; a game changer for the mini crawler market for sure!

[@gobybike99]

If you had to get only one which would get? I have 1/24 deadbolt. I think the Trx 4m would be more different and fun.

[@CapeCrawlers]

It’s such a hard choice! Probably the traxxas if I could only have one. The aftermarket is heating up for these things now and I expect it only to get better

[@2WheelsdownN]

For 150usd they are both great buys cant go wrong with either one

[@RCCrawlerz209]

I'm surprised on big the body on the TRX4m Bronco looks compared to the SCX24 Bronco, vast difference! 😮

[@CapeCrawlers]

It is a lot bigger isn’t it?

[@RCCrawlerz209]

@@CapeCrawlers Yeah it is, just kinda taken by that. But the question is, who can get the most flex? 🤔

[@CapeCrawlers]

@@RCCrawlerz209 scx24 without a doubt. The vertical servo design on the traxxas will forever limit articulation.

[@RCCrawlerz209]

@@CapeCrawlers True, very true.

The SCX24 Bronco is out of scale compared to the real-world one. TRX4m is much closer.

[@Mgoblue2486]

Love my Trx4m Defender

[@lordharr123456]

Add a Tqi transmitter and a Bluetooth module and add bearings and increase the endpoints to 130 120 to get the steering up to 53 degrees steering radious and also the furitek 40amp speed controller with the Godzilla motor upgrade and just add in all Traxxas brass and metal upgraded parts and low crawler gears.

[@travisharrisphotography]

Are the wheel sizes exactly the same? I have the SCX-24 with lots of upgrades. Was just wondering if the RC4WD wheels I got for it would fit the TRX4m?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes, they use the same size hex so any scx24 wheel will fit

[@robertphillips6715]

Ya .. I'm all about the scx 24 models and micro crawlers .. BUT your absolutely correct about the performances and value of the traxxis. It has some really good features and performed very well.. I'd love to see traxxis do a true 24 scale, I'd love to have one in my collection .. That little tiny size difference did make it unable to play on my indoor and my desk obstacle so when spring comes and I can go outside I'll be picking up a TRX 4m no I doubt .. I felt the same as you said at the end I wish it can mash them together by it since I can't. I'm Just going to get the 4m and have both to play with and upgrade .

[@CapeCrawlers]

I agree. As good as the Traxxas is I wish it was a 1/24. But they are both so enjoyable to run! The more I upgrade and use my Traxxas the more I like it, but it won't replace my beloved SCX24's.

[@robertphillips6715]

@@CapeCrawlersI just couldn't decide if make up my mind so I'm not heart broken about owning both .. lol. It's just gave me an excuse to get more trucks for my fleet. Great video.. thanks again ..

[@tommygo9185]

Thanks a lot for this video. Until I saw it, I didn't even know that there is a small crawler from Traxxas. I wanted to order the TRX4M immediately until I saw what Traxxas has done with the battery connection. I'm out. What a nonsense!

[@CapeCrawlers]

The proprietary connection is a bummer for sure!

[@dannyspontan4915]

Dude your swinging to hard the nuts of Traxxas!😂

[@lordharr123456]

Also with the furitek 3cellmas well just to be fairly add in same systems to both crawlers and same tires and wheel weights both fully modded to maxxxxxx head to head!!!!!

[@scottdouble3801]

Do you have any plans on doing a hobby plus cr24 comparison? Seems like a good option for even less money and they seem pretty capable out of the box and are fully waterproof too!

[@CapeCrawlers]

I have not thought of that, but it looks like a cool little rig!

[@TeensierPython]

I want one. Thinking about picking one up in the next couple days Which has the better upgrade path?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Scx24 still has the edge in the aftermarket although the trx4m is gaining ground rapidly!

[@TeensierPython]

@@CapeCrawlers went to the hobby store today. They recommended I pick up a 1/10 scale crawler instead. Do you have a video on that scale?

[@abhishek7dbecks]

Hi, I’m new to the hobby and recently got both the TRX4M Bronco and the SCX24 C10. I am looking to upgrade wheels& tires on both, my question is: Can I use the stock TRX4M wheels + tires on the SCX24? Size and weight wise, it’ll be an upgrade for SCX24. And I’ll only need to purchase upgrades for TRX4M. My noob question is, will they fit?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Welcome to the hobby!! Yes, the wheels and tires are interchangeable 👍🏻

[@Jbzy3000]

I can’t make up my mind. I need a mini crawler leaning towards axial but the oil shocks on the trx4m is a win for me. I hate the bushings as well. But maybe they are good like Tamiya bushings.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Can always buy oil filled shocks for the SCX24!

[@Jbzy3000]

@@CapeCrawlers where can I find these I’ve been looking for oil filled shocks.

[@necessaryrc1802]

I would choose the Axial first every day! The trx4m steering binding issues are a no-go for me. I replaced bushings with bearings and am just wasting money at this point. trx4m leaked all of it's oil from the shocks too, leaving zero advantage over Axial. The big advantages are supposed to be oil shocks and steering angle, but if the steering binds and the shocks leak immediately then what is left!?

[@CapeCrawlers]

We lucked out and avoided those issues with our Traxxas thankfully! I have heard of the binding issue being pretty common. But you're right, when those key features go away, there isn't much advantage.

[@dawsonbrooks5071]

i typically dont use the on off switch on my scx24 and i j turn it of by unplugging the battery do u think this is damaging my lizard pro?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I do the same. I dont think it damages the lizard. At least I haven't heard of that, or experienced it with my own setups.

[@shockman8014]

I expect scale performance from my scale rigs. Certainly nothing less, but nothing more either. It would be cool to have at scale, scale power, scale weight and geometry, and scale components (independent suspension and leaf springs where applicable). The Traxxas looks like weight and suspension most of all is it's advantage being closer to scale for these "stock" trucks.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Would you say the axial underperforms for its scale and setup?

[@shockman8014]

@@CapeCrawlers No. Other than shocks and steering/servo. I think the Traxxas advantage is obvious though and that besides a couple of issues mentioned it is more power, size and weight than engineering. I see a comparison here of scale (sheer size and weight), not brands. Comparisons of brands are fair, but comparisons of scale not so much.

[@carrrebuilds5425]

Love your channel and hate it at the same time... 🤔 Love your content, but I hate that I always go buy stuff after watching episodes. 🤑

[@RCRoads]

Cool cars. For how small they are they really climb well. 👍👍

[@CapeCrawlers]

They are super capable for such tiny trucks! The attention to detail is amazing.

[@curtmartini66]

Great comparison. I am surprised you would choose the Traxxas. I think the SCX24 has way more upgrades.

[@CapeCrawlers]

It was an agonizing decision! I agree that the scx24 has way more, and probably always will have more upgrades. I will tell you that I wouldn’t give up any of my scx24’s for the traxxas.

[@derrickwilliams2903]

The build quality of the TRX-4M is vastly superior. I have six SCX24's (including a Bronco) and a TRX-4M Bronco. The difference is amazing, even considering that the TRX-4M has bushings.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I agree. I am in love with the polished look and feel of the traxxas

[@hasanh7698]

Im in malaysia and I bought the scx 24 bronco. Its quite expensive here given the exchange rate. Scx24 is gorgeous but i kinda regret buying the scx24 before trx4m was announced. Scx24 is suuper unstable. It rolls and tumbles everywhere out of the box.

[@CapeCrawlers]

It takes some work to get the SCX24 stable, you are right about that.

[@CrawlerTrax]

Awesome video friend!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@danarrow1656]

Are you able compare fully upgraded scx24 Gladiator vs upgraded trx4m?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes I can! I can also do a fully built bronco if you wanted to see a bronco vs bronco comparison. That was my plan: a rematch between modded rigs!

[@dylanwhite6539]

No balance port? It’s integrated to the connector like all other Traxxas batteries

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes, I got that now - my mistake.

[@nickwall3554]

I think there is absolutely no comparison of the two due to the fact that the scx24 uses wormgear axles which gives absolutely zero DRAG break, only full stop.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Good point. I really like the multi functional esc of the traxxas and being able to utilize different drag brake settings

[@travis3567]

Could you do a video experimenting with how much you’d need to do to the scx to make it comparable/better? Would wheels/tires some hex extensions and shocks be enough?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I've got a deadbolt with just a handful of mods (~$100 worth) and it can surpass the TRX4M. I'm going to do a modified shootout as part 2 of this comparison!

[@travis3567]

@@CapeCrawlers I bought the SCX24 bronco on your recommendation for $80 due to a sale. I bought the injora wheel/tire combo and am running with no foams, high clearance links, hex extensions/weights, treal steering knuckles, emax servo and tray, injora steering linkage and some brass diff covers. I spent just under $125 and this thing is WORLDS better. 204 total spent on car and mods. I’m satisfied for now but want to tinker with suspension and a new motor. Likely injora purple.

[@CapeCrawlers]

@@travis3567 $80 is a great deal!!

[@sofghost6663]

You should have included the fcx24 into this video as well

[@CapeCrawlers]

I should have! Maybe in the future I'll do a three way shootout.

[@nepeeer]

The conclusion is now clear. Only remaining question is which color of Bronco to choose.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Another benefit of the M: lots of body colors!

[@ConspiracyManDan]

I think the scale is actually the big issue all the way around. You can't side hill that small of a vehicle and say that it didn't do as good as the big one the big one has more weight it's wider it has more places to grab The whole test you're doing is only good if they're equal in size

[@babissj4]

Seems the transmission of the trx4m it’s a little bit fast for crawling, and on the other hand if you change the gears to the low speed transmission you don t have enough punch. That’s a serious problem for a crawler.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I do wish there was a middle ground!