"Captain America Should Not Represent 'America'" - Comic Collector Explains Why Mackie Is Wrong...

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Swagglehaus

Swagglehaus

Күн бұрын

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@matts6607
@matts6607 4 күн бұрын
One of the best old school Cap comics was #180-184 when he became Nomad. Cap realizes by issue #184 that he could champion America's ideals without blindly supporting the government. Good read and suggest people definitely check out that story arc.
@grios5530
@grios5530 4 күн бұрын
Its okaaaaaay...and I'm a hard-core cap collector.
@DeanStrickson
@DeanStrickson 4 күн бұрын
Rogers did it again when he became “The Captain” in Cap #332.
@matts6607
@matts6607 4 күн бұрын
@grois5530 so am I. all i said was it's a good read, not a Marvel Masterpiece lmfao.
@michaeltan4204
@michaeltan4204 4 күн бұрын
Captain America was created during World War 2 battling the Nazis and Imperial Japan. He is the idea and iconic hero representing the freedom and democracy of United States of America.
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 4 күн бұрын
@@michaeltan4204 I wonder how many of these commenters are mad that Captain America is an anti-fascist?
@GermanShible
@GermanShible 3 күн бұрын
He was also created before the United States had entered the war, at a time when people did not support the idea of going to war. Both Simon & Kirby received death threats for Captain America
@Stealthybat39
@Stealthybat39 13 сағат бұрын
SOOOOO Mackie IS RIGHT, Captain represents the BEST of america not the TRUE America, if captain actually represent true america, he would be homelander or soldier boy...doing crack and arresting black people along the highway, Cap represents the america dream, their goal and freedom, not straight up america itself. People need stop twisting mackie words smh.
@FourtuneFitness
@FourtuneFitness 4 күн бұрын
This has been so blown out of proportion. If I wasn’t on social media this wouldn’t be a thing.
@ggmf
@ggmf 2 күн бұрын
Loved the video, presentation and arguments, man. I don't think Mackie was deliberately against America in his approach but I do really think he messed up A LOT in the way he phrased himself. He is responsible for the backlash wheter he recognizes it or not, regardless of intent. That comes with everything we do and say nowadays. I hope he learns from this to express himself better in the future (specially in public events such as these press tour) rather than just blame social media and people with of any particular side of the political spectrum. I'm not even American but Iunderstand the frustration many people felt, because it's a matter of understanding and respecting the essence of the character being portrait just like you said, which is why I really appreciate your presentation on the matter. I hope people may understand better of what they are talking about (and I include both the professional players and the social media voices regarding Comics culture) and try most of all to understand and empathize with each other, regardless of political view, ethnicity, place of origin, social class, etc.
@adamleitman8116
@adamleitman8116 4 күн бұрын
Cap has always pushed the limit. Remember Avengers Civil War when he went against his own governments orders and went off and did what he thought was right?
@bigglegg
@bigglegg Күн бұрын
Spectacular breakdown my man. Couldn't have said any of that better if I tried.
@themojoverse
@themojoverse 2 күн бұрын
19:45 it has a lot to do with Anthony/Sam Wilson... the whole reason most of the black characters don't sell as well is because when many were created, there were a lot of discrimination in comics anyways. If it was Bucky as Cap, it would be tracking a LOT better. You give people entirely too much credit.
@Joeboyscomics
@Joeboyscomics 4 күн бұрын
Caps American values were basically in the 40’s as a product of WW2. When he comes back in the 60’s up to present day, he flip flopped quite a few times. Just like we do living here, believe it or not. As for Disney being dead, far from it lol
@scottkrasowski745
@scottkrasowski745 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for tackling this topic, Swag. I haven't read those particular issues in a long time but I remember the plot points.
@skybornsamurai961
@skybornsamurai961 4 күн бұрын
Mackie just gave thousands of people a reason “NOT “ to go see this movie. The movie was already struggling to gain traction. This in no way helped.
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 4 күн бұрын
@@skybornsamurai961 Why don't you want to see the movie now?
@Stealthybat39
@Stealthybat39 13 сағат бұрын
But Mackie IS RIGHT, Captain represents the BEST of america not the TRUE America, if captain actually represent true america, he would be homelander or soldier boy...doing crack and arresting black people along the highway. People need stop twisting mackie words smh.
@ronnyjohnston6039
@ronnyjohnston6039 4 күн бұрын
"Companies just want to make money." Me, unfurling the long list of bombs Disney and Sony have made. 😅
@ComicBookShopper
@ComicBookShopper 4 күн бұрын
I'm so happy to see you highlight this run, Swag!! Mike Zeck was fired on all cylinders at this time. Issue #321 is my comfort cover. I'll pick up every high grade copy that I come across, every time. A black cover with an iconic image of Cap using an uzi, because ULTIMATUM drove him to do the unthinkable...top-notch storytelling!!
@prettyflyforafilipin
@prettyflyforafilipin 4 күн бұрын
Maybe using the qualifier “not just” could have helped?
@marcuswai
@marcuswai 4 күн бұрын
The American ideal is greater and more widespread than just within the country's borders. America inspires democracies across the globe.
@Alfa_Channell
@Alfa_Channell 4 күн бұрын
used to... Have you heard of the Kalergi Plan?
@Alfa_Channell
@Alfa_Channell 4 күн бұрын
@@skybornsamurai961 true
@spizzikes2400
@spizzikes2400 4 күн бұрын
@@marcuswai also complicit in the suffering of a lot of people outside of our borders
@Awesome_collection007
@Awesome_collection007 4 күн бұрын
I’d rather hear this issue about the movie than stickygoose quitting youtube.
@ginobozzi3954
@ginobozzi3954 4 күн бұрын
Disney has become a graveyard of once great IP’s. They have destroyed the lore, franchises, and characters that were once legendary. Best thing we can hope for Disney will be broken up through eventually financial difficulties.
@nowherebound2908
@nowherebound2908 4 күн бұрын
I agree with the Forbes article. I feel what Mackie said, maybe inarticulately, was essentially the same as what Chris Evans said. Just because the current climate is ... ah, different now ... maybe even shows why people are freaking out about it. Looking forward to the movie - I hope it's good.
@calebleland8390
@calebleland8390 4 күн бұрын
Exactly. Evans says it and nobody bats an eye. Wonder what's different this time around?
@rayjones4616
@rayjones4616 2 күн бұрын
As a so-called "right-winger", I appreciate your well-thought-out views and commentary on this subject. Very balanced, sane and filled with common sense. Good job!
@traestratton3109
@traestratton3109 4 күн бұрын
Well said Swag. The American ideals are what we HOPE American politics strive for- but sadly, the real world we live in often poses lesser evils instead of clear choices that will result in the benefit of all- to that extent Cap's choices between right and wrong are many times easier than some of the decisions our American Presidents have faced and will face in the future.
@jblue6236
@jblue6236 4 күн бұрын
You don't define America by the tragedies, you define her by her laws, values, constitution, and successes that allow is to crush tragedies create freedoms. Captain America is the walking embodiment of the that.
@boboleary6607
@boboleary6607 4 күн бұрын
Disney is dead because they make movies nobody wants to watch. Woke or not. I have zero interest in what they are producing. Falcon as Cap means nothing to me.
@waltercahill1942
@waltercahill1942 6 сағат бұрын
America has been, and still is, the best country in the world. Is it perfect? No. Saying America is trash is BS. Captain America represents the best ideals the USA was founded on and represents. Not the American government, but the American dream and the American ideal. I gladly served my country in the Army for 9 years and would do it again.
@brianvera3563
@brianvera3563 4 күн бұрын
Well said. People love to take things out of context to fit their own world view rather then know the history of the character and what they truely stand for.
@diehardtv8079
@diehardtv8079 4 күн бұрын
I support free speech for all, and frankly as a comic reader I understand fully that Captain America stands for far more than just America.... Seems its ok to bash the libs but not speak your mind if it doesnt align with that? Its ok for things to evolve with society, unless you want to read nothing but Captain America fighting Hitler or cant understand that maybe a Modern Captain America would be about more than just America. You lost me with this take
@themojoverse
@themojoverse 2 күн бұрын
9:38 he was absolutely right. For certain people America was never great. With the current president, it will not be great for some people.
@antonemessa9222
@antonemessa9222 4 күн бұрын
America is the home of every super hero you ever cared about. None of these characters would have been invented without the ways of Western civilization and Capitalism. These nerds are very stupid for having this reputation for being smart people.
@themojoverse
@themojoverse 2 күн бұрын
It just comes off as him saying something and it being interpreted a little wrong. That said, there were already people who hate this movie and it's not even out yet. There are people who've been looking for any little reason to hate this movie before it came out. This is dumb and all the people mad about it are the same type that typically call others snowflakes.
@tcnkal
@tcnkal 4 күн бұрын
Agree with your video on almost every account. BTW, growing up, Iron Man and Captain America were top of the stack reads and all American. It didn’t hurt that Bob Layton and Mike Zeck were involved in their making.
@RonStewart-i2t
@RonStewart-i2t 4 күн бұрын
Im in 💯 agreement with you.
@Ben-qy1kf
@Ben-qy1kf 4 күн бұрын
This is exactly correct. I'm not sure why so many people have such a hard time understanding this. I feel bad for Mackie. He was trying to walk a fine line and messed it up.
@TheDoctor1701a
@TheDoctor1701a 4 күн бұрын
I think Mackie, Evans and you are saying the exact same thing. As an American the word America is hitting different. In Germany the term was so problematic that they rebranded Captain America in the movie titles to „The First Avenger“ and dropped the Name Captain America completly with winter soldier and civil war. I think Brave New World is the first movie who since the first one who uses Captain America in the title. What Mackie is saying is saying is basicly the same as you did but outside the US you need to make it clear that the character has an universial appeal and is not just someone who promotes US political propaganda (as the character was thought of in the past. Not every interview is for US audiences. This was one of them.
@JCtheComicGeek
@JCtheComicGeek 3 күн бұрын
Cap should be about protecting a better world for all!...including AMERICA!😊
@angelvalle9963
@angelvalle9963 4 күн бұрын
Hes first statement was him the second was damage control from the studio 😂
@brandonmetro7115
@brandonmetro7115 4 күн бұрын
Right damage control for our 3rd grade level English on people who can't understand the difference between a verb and a noun to describe a trait.
@buckysbooks4093
@buckysbooks4093 4 күн бұрын
I left my studio for other reasons, but the Karl Marx quote that was on the dry erase board in the hallway, after Trump won definitely made me and I’m sure others feel pissed off. It wasn’t taken down for 3 days. The studio idiocracy is real. I don’t want to be a part of any of it.
@Steverogers84715
@Steverogers84715 4 күн бұрын
There's a letters page in Captain America 306 announcing Gruenwald as the new writer. He gives his take on Captain America and I 100% agree with him 🇺🇸
@txmoney
@txmoney 4 күн бұрын
Whatever controversy this stirs will be moot after the film is released and the reviews flood in.
@Stealthybat39
@Stealthybat39 13 сағат бұрын
Mackie IS RIGHT, Captain represents the BEST of america not the TRUE America, if captain actually represent true america, he would be homelander or soldier boy...doing crack and arresting black people along the highway. People need stop twisting mackie words smh.
@pingadol1555
@pingadol1555 2 күн бұрын
You mentioned issue 323 as the issue to go to but showed 322 as far as referencing Steve Rogers.
@randolm7698
@randolm7698 4 күн бұрын
You know how every athlete interview after games are almost always the same generic responses - it's because they're coached to give those responses. It's how they protect team info and keep up public image. This is exactly what actors in AAA films with a $100 million dollar budget should be doing - coached on how to respond to any possible controversial question. Cause you know every reporter is fishing for that story. When actors do damage to a film they're hurting everyone involved in making that film, the collateral damage can be massive. It's not fair to 'sabotage' a project with personal opinions that muddy the waters. Save it for old-age memoirs.
@300baud
@300baud 4 күн бұрын
I loved the Gruenwald/Neary run.
@pvj6993
@pvj6993 4 күн бұрын
I think you explain Captain America and Steve Rogers perfectly. I don't think anyone but Steve Rogers can be Captain America
@pedrojuarez2483
@pedrojuarez2483 4 күн бұрын
The best part of being American is being able2 believe in whatever u want2, even if that's nothing. Saying and feeling anyway u want2, bc that is freedom. As well as loving or not loving anything u want2. Mix it all up in a pot with others that feel/think the same and opposite of u, and that... is America. Capwolf/Wolfpack story is my fav story of Captain America, and honestly, I'm more of a Superman fan if it comes down2 the2. But Cap is cool. He does rep America. So do I. Like it or not, that's where it's at. ✌️🇺🇸🦅
@johnnyr859
@johnnyr859 4 күн бұрын
Captain America 323- cited👍👍👍!!!
@leerogers5318
@leerogers5318 4 күн бұрын
Anthony Mackie is completely off the mark. Captain America represents America-always has, always will. Only those who serve and put their lives on the line to defend this country truly understand this. I personally risked my life to ensure that Anthony Mackie has the right to express his opinion, but at the end of the day, this is still just his perspective. He’s portraying a character who embodies the essence of America. If he doesn't align with that, maybe playing Captain America isn't the right role for him.
@spizzikes2400
@spizzikes2400 4 күн бұрын
@@leerogers5318 but does what cap embodies actually reflect America? Or just American Idealism
@highgroundcomics2525
@highgroundcomics2525 4 күн бұрын
Team Anthony Mackie. #MackieWasRight
@gabrielbien-willner2509
@gabrielbien-willner2509 4 күн бұрын
Great analysis. I hate people commenting without actually reading the source material. To me, this arc is one of the best in comics of all time- I wish it was adapted more faithfully, because what we got was... subpar, to say the least. If I had to "value" comics based on quality and impact... this is at the top. Also, -1 points to you for going through all of this without once mentioning MIKE ZECK.
@jdc4483
@jdc4483 4 күн бұрын
Mackie has always been a traditional guy. Solid. But, his comments illustrate the bigger issue of an educational system that teaches our children to hate their country. Sad.
@rocketfighter8
@rocketfighter8 4 күн бұрын
I have two grandkids in school. Give me examples of how the educational system teaches them to hate America. I'll ask them to confirm or deny what you tell me.
@janicearroyo-wright8529
@janicearroyo-wright8529 4 күн бұрын
I teach my kids to question everything including what America stands for. At the end of the day it's a fictional comic book character played by an actor in a pretend world. I wouldn't read too much into it.
@guygardner8308
@guygardner8308 4 күн бұрын
@@rocketfighter8 Wait till they hit highschool and university
@guygardner8308
@guygardner8308 4 күн бұрын
@@janicearroyo-wright8529 You sound like a good parent.
@Alfa_Channell
@Alfa_Channell 4 күн бұрын
@@rocketfighter8 have you heard of the Kalergi Plan?
@dradatzke
@dradatzke 3 күн бұрын
I have little interest in the Sam Wilson Captain America, more interested in Red Hulk.
@76063co2
@76063co2 4 күн бұрын
THANK YOU! As you were reading the Mackie and Evans comments about US government history, I was thinking, "His name isn't 'Captain American Government'" This is something that people conflate all of the time. Our country, is not the same thing as the United States government. Neither you nor I did most of the regrettable things that our government has committed (I'll decline to run down a list). Personally, I've broken myself of the habit of saying "We" or "Us" when talking about American history and actions that our government has taken. People do this when talking about government, like when talking about their favorite sports team...which is goofy too. We the people are the country...not those psychopaths that usually occupy the District of Colombia.
@agentmobius8458
@agentmobius8458 3 күн бұрын
Nuff Said
@matttanaka1011
@matttanaka1011 4 күн бұрын
Swag, please find the clip and actually watch it. Mackie’s full statement started with “To me . . .” which makes it a personal statement anyone should be able to understand instead of a statement of fact about America. There’s literally nothing to be offended by here. He’s being strategically misquoted to feed the outrage machine - congrats on joining it, I guess?
@bcm3938
@bcm3938 4 күн бұрын
Strategically misquoted....Well then why don't you type out the quote? Here ya go I did for you. "For me, Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don't think the term 'America' should be one of those representations" So Mackie's personal opinion about "CAP" is that his ideals aren't representative of America. A brilliant personal statement about how he personally feels about the character. Let's see how everyone else takes it.
@Dev003x
@Dev003x 4 күн бұрын
Then he should never have plated the part in the first place. H eknows what Captain America really means. He just wants to be the new BLM poster child.
@matttanaka1011
@matttanaka1011 4 күн бұрын
@ Thanks for the full quote - didn’t think it was necessary since Swag should have it now, but hey it might be helpful for others. Oh wait, this is sarcasm - OK, let’s unpack that. Cap’s a man, not a monolith, and therefore capable of being both proud and ashamed of America as we’ve seen in his stories. At which point did you come to understand Cap as a character that could possibly represent the complexity of America in totality? He’s not a flag, he just wears it. Genuinely curious.
@whydopeoplealwayssayuhm
@whydopeoplealwayssayuhm 4 күн бұрын
💯 %!!!
@DeanStrickson
@DeanStrickson 4 күн бұрын
@@bcm3938looks like we’re taking it pretty well.
@WhatDoesEvilMean
@WhatDoesEvilMean 4 күн бұрын
My main issue with your opening thesis is on corporations and individuals is that they’re antithetical statements. Corporations aren’t autonomous. There are a *myriad* of openly activist companies that are objectively willing to make less money in order to serve their sociopolitical agenda. “The color green” is, in fact, not what guides the board rooms of a lot of these companies. Some of that is via inception, some of that is via infiltration. At no point did DC and Marvel actually think “Marvel Now” and “make everyone queer” was going to be financially successful in the comics. They have been blatant and clear about why the turned Iceman and Kitty and a host of other characters queer. They’ve been clear why they made John Kent queer. It was never, at any point, about raising sales. They had year after year after year of declining readership *especially* in queer-front books. It is simply untrue that a lot of what is made by these studios exists *explicitly* to make money (above all else). The comics, for instance, have even often been regarded as a loss leader. A way to dodge assertions of Marvel not being progressive enough.
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 4 күн бұрын
@@WhatDoesEvilMean So, if it's not about making money and they're willing to take a loss, as you say, then can you explain in one sentence why you think Marvel has gay characters?
@WhatDoesEvilMean
@WhatDoesEvilMean 2 күн бұрын
@ I think Marvel has gay characters for the same reason it has straight characters, and I think marvel also has gay characters for the same reason they might draw MODOK as Trump. A ball can roll down a slide because the wind blew it, a ball can roll down a slide because someone pushed it down the slide.
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 2 күн бұрын
@WhatDoesEvilMean lol, uhhhh ok, so what's this magical reason you're referring to? Why does Marvel supposedly decide to make less money to put out gay characters?
@WhatDoesEvilMean
@WhatDoesEvilMean 2 күн бұрын
@ For the same reason Superman and Captain America told you to treat Japanese people as sub human. Propaganda - media designed with intent to alter the sociopolitical landscape. All these marvel and DC characters were spontaneously turned gay because activists saw these comics and characters as a way to influence the perception and beliefs of the readers. Some of it was done simply to “own the chuds.” The writer of gay Green Lantern’s entire pitch video was “buy this comic with this gay character to own the chuds”. You think mockingbird wanted you to ask her about her “feminist agenda”? No, the activist propagandist writer wanted people to do that. And so they did.
@justplainoltex4991
@justplainoltex4991 3 күн бұрын
Yer amazingly adept at affecting both sides of a cultural civil war. Th only thing I'd argue is wokeness and DEI were artificial impositions on a pure marketplace, but if I was in yer place of influence I'd feel responsible enough to leave that part out too... and really, that would be nit-picking, wouldn't it?
@fabianromero8586
@fabianromero8586 2 күн бұрын
Well said Swag 🙏
@terri_blueberri
@terri_blueberri 4 күн бұрын
America made Anthony Mackie and a very rich man. Richer than I'll ever dream of being. He couldn't pay me to go see this garbage movie though.
@chonkocomics
@chonkocomics 4 күн бұрын
Dammit Clarence.
@DocReasonable
@DocReasonable 4 күн бұрын
Captain America should embody the ideal of America, not necessarily the reality of it.
@ajguez
@ajguez 4 күн бұрын
I just want to see the movie and hope it’s good.
@Hootch2099
@Hootch2099 4 күн бұрын
Great job Mickey
@williamceyrolles4914
@williamceyrolles4914 4 күн бұрын
I think one thing you should think about is the fact that when you hold that issue and what Steve said in high regard, Mackie wasnt talking about Steve. The Falcon amd the Winter Soldier and the commercials for Cap 4 has put a lot of emphasis on that Sam IS Captain America now. And so when talking about what Cap represents, you have to go by the comics that deal with Sam, the issues he has faved and what that character believes. Going by what Steve has said, in my mind, negates your whole argument. With respect
@Swagglehaus
@Swagglehaus 4 күн бұрын
For sure, i kinda make a joke about at the literal end of the video :P
@brandonmetro7115
@brandonmetro7115 4 күн бұрын
Everybody needs to go back and listen to the question Mackie was asked. He was asked to describe traits. Honorable and things of that nature is what he gave. john Campea said it best. This is a third grade argument over what is a verb and a noun. To describe a trait is to give a verb, am I wrong. You would not give a noun. That would be like me saying I want to be the moon. This argument makes no sense and is completely out of context. And another thing every single video I see does not show the question being asked hmmmmm
@NABOOFISHERMAN
@NABOOFISHERMAN 4 күн бұрын
A fascist movement in America who we are kidding in this upside world of good is bad and bad is good
@teammunkeyhead
@teammunkeyhead 4 күн бұрын
Political caveat 😂
@bishopism
@bishopism 23 сағат бұрын
Squiggle Moose!!!
@zachbrobst9473
@zachbrobst9473 4 күн бұрын
Very well stated Swag
@jasonfigueroa2694
@jasonfigueroa2694 2 күн бұрын
Woke was never cool ever
@michaelstarr1285
@michaelstarr1285 3 сағат бұрын
Wokeness
@xellosmetallium8519
@xellosmetallium8519 4 күн бұрын
Anthony Mackie slipped up, it happens, reporters ask tricky question and the person doesn't think about there answers. I can understand feeling confused about taking pride in America, sometimes we do such terrible things in this country. I do love America, but I understand why some people feel the way they do.
@jnaught1358
@jnaught1358 3 күн бұрын
The more Disney sticks to “popular” the more and boring the MCU will become. They beat Wolverine to death, and his “popularity” cost us all the other characters being developed. We (the comic readers) have been exposed to a vast amount of literature, character development, and story arcs. Most of us are better people for that exposure. I’d venture to say that the general audience is being cheated out of incredible experiences because studios use a metric that turns something organic into a piece of property, never understanding that both can coexist, leaving the audience members better off after the experience. Mackie is entitled to his opinion, just as any other (actor) is.. To conflate his opinion to him regurgitating dialogue written (for) him, by someone else, about a character he did not create is foolish! Mackie is not Sam Wilson, Harrison Ford and s not Han Solo. They’re actors. Mackie answered a question based on the way his neurons fired. Is what it is. If he had the super soldier serum, and was a REAL cap in a REAL world, YES, we should have questions.. But alas, he’s just a man whose job is to act, with his own experiences and opinions. One could argue that he should be cancelled for playing a gangster named clerance😂
@WadeNslade
@WadeNslade 4 күн бұрын
Facts green is the color of choice unfortunately
@shaneyoung3725
@shaneyoung3725 4 күн бұрын
Chris Evan’s said the same thing…. And they both were right.
@patrickmel8728
@patrickmel8728 4 күн бұрын
Why would we expect anything different from Papa Doc? Just ask Cheddar Bob...
@thecomickeeper5127
@thecomickeeper5127 4 күн бұрын
Yes, represent all the war and imperialism and monopoly capitalism and oligarchy! Ya know, the america that blows trillions on defense spending and wars to replace the taliban with the taliban while we can't even get healthcare or decent housing . I agree with Alan moore on this . These characters most certainly had their time and place in the 30s and 40s but now they are vapid husks of materialism and late stage decaying capitalist America. Comics are one thing I somewhat divorce myself from reality on, but I have no illusions about where we are as a country and the creeping facist state we live in. As the ruling class likes to say Hail Hydra !
@Alfa_Channell
@Alfa_Channell 4 күн бұрын
Have you heard of the Kalergi Plan?
@guygardner8308
@guygardner8308 4 күн бұрын
Great video! "Captain America represents what America should be". All arguments should end there. Unfortunately, comic book writers and Hollywood no longer know what it means to be an American, or what "American Ideals" are. Regardless of what Chris Evans said in 2011, his portrayal embodied what most people believed Captain America to be. Anthony Mackie has never been able to fill those shoes.
@Alfa_Channell
@Alfa_Channell 4 күн бұрын
have you heard of the Kalergi Plan?
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 4 күн бұрын
What is DEI? What does it have to do with comic books?
@bcm3938
@bcm3938 4 күн бұрын
A Hiring practice based on race and/or gender not merit. For the past 4 years its been a popular thing across all professions. As for comic books the people writing them insert their own beliefs to push an activist agenda. YOU GOTTA DO BETTER!
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 4 күн бұрын
@bcm3938 oh ok, so how do you know when a specific person failed the job requirements but was hired because of their race of gender? And how do you know when someone inserts an agenda into a comic book?
@christophertomasello1227
@christophertomasello1227 4 күн бұрын
Dei is responsible for disasters such as California's recent fires, planes crashing into helicopters add Amelia Perez
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 4 күн бұрын
@@bcm3938 How do you know when someone failed the job requirements but was hired anyways because of their race or gender?
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 4 күн бұрын
@@bcm3938 How do you know when someone is inserting an activist agenda? For example, was the creator of the comic where Captain America punched Hitler in the face inserting an activist agenda?
@stormshadowctf
@stormshadowctf 4 күн бұрын
Regardless of the press, before Mackie did this, I was definitely going to see it. Not now. Ruffalo and Idris elba are just as bad, if not worse, you know.
@Quasi_Terrible
@Quasi_Terrible 4 күн бұрын
Why not just make a Falcon movie? They turned a bunch of space weirdos like the Guardians of the Galaxy into a billion-dollar franchise(no one had heard of any of those characters before the movie came out), but a great character like Falcon? Nah. Instead, we get a Captain America movie without Captain America. Classic Disney-too racist to give Falcon his own film, so they just do a lazy race swap. Pathetic. Oh, and Captain America is literally America’s superhero, not an interchangeable mascot.
@angelvalle9963
@angelvalle9963 4 күн бұрын
Because it's about Diversity equity and inclusion😂😂😂😂
@latenite.comics
@latenite.comics 4 күн бұрын
Is this a “life imitates art” moment for cast and producers of the film? Looking forward to watching this film.
@Floridamancomics
@Floridamancomics 4 күн бұрын
“You’re being manipulated.” Oh Swag, you made my day ❤
@spizzikes2400
@spizzikes2400 4 күн бұрын
Kinda sounds like you're saying the same thing, but with a different view of America
@protestant3207
@protestant3207 4 күн бұрын
Funny how they skip over the fact that Captain America is so powerful is because he's roided up
@Alfa_Channell
@Alfa_Channell 4 күн бұрын
the real life Cap was Schwarzenegger - roided up by Jew Weider - taught to hate his family, culture and ancestors - P O S
@7tardis7
@7tardis7 4 күн бұрын
Why r u so dumb?
@7tardis7
@7tardis7 4 күн бұрын
I'm glad you didn't say "I think mackie is a good actor" like others do. Nah he sucks in everything...he's just an activist in actors clothing.
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 4 күн бұрын
@@7tardis7 How do you know when an actor is an activist? Why is that bad?
@7tardis7
@7tardis7 4 күн бұрын
@matt12181983 An actor is considered an activist when they actively use their public platform to speak out about social or political issues, often by publicly endorsing causes, participating in protests, donating to charities, or giving interviews where they express their strong opinions on a particular matter, going beyond simply acting in roles that align with their personal beliefs. Key indicators that an actor might be an activist: Frequent public statements on social issues: Regularly discussing their views on topics like climate change, racial justice, LGBTQ+ rights, etc., in interviews, social media posts, or public appearances. Supporting organizations and campaigns: Actively endorsing or fundraising for specific non-profit organizations related to their causes. Attending protests and rallies: Participating in demonstrations or public gatherings to advocate for change. Using their creative work to raise awareness: Incorporating social commentary into their acting roles or projects. Collaborating with activists: Partnering with established activists or social justice organizations to amplify their message.
@matt12181983
@matt12181983 4 күн бұрын
@@7tardis7 Why is it bad for an actor to do anything on your exhaustive (and exhausting) list?
@7tardis7
@7tardis7 4 күн бұрын
@@matt12181983 why r u so dumb?
@7tardis7
@7tardis7 4 күн бұрын
@@matt12181983 Perceived lack of expertise: Critics sometimes argue that actors, while skilled in their craft, might not have the deep understanding of complex political or social issues that specialists (like scientists, economists, or policymakers) have. This can lead to concerns that their activism is not informed enough. Public platform vs. personal views: Some people believe that actors should stick to entertaining and not use their celebrity status to push personal political or social views. The idea is that an actor's primary role is to entertain, and that using their platform for activism can be seen as "lecturing" or imposing their opinions on their audience. Audience backlash: When actors speak out on controversial issues, it can alienate part of their fanbase. If fans disagree with the actor’s stance, it can lead to boycotts or negative reactions. This creates a divide between those who appreciate the actor’s work and those who don’t want their entertainment to be "politicized." Risk of virtue signaling: There's also a critique that some celebrities get involved in activism not because they truly care about the cause but because it boosts their public image. This can lead to accusations of "virtue signaling," where they publicly align with a cause for personal gain rather than making meaningful change.
@banuvu
@banuvu 4 күн бұрын
Remember when Swagglehaus made a 25 minute long video just to self report his own racism?
@gabrielbien-willner2509
@gabrielbien-willner2509 4 күн бұрын
Stop having actors in position to make polictical statements. It will only hurt the performance of his work. Macie was stupid for making this statement off the cuff. No one will watch his movie because he made these statements- but they are likely to not see it because of them.
@Justin.Texass
@Justin.Texass 4 күн бұрын
Anthony Mackie wasn’t even born when Captain America was created show some respect to the creators… Captain America will move on with or without you Mackie
@commodorerook3797
@commodorerook3797 4 күн бұрын
He was a staunch Biden/Harris supporter so.....
@stevenschaller1672
@stevenschaller1672 4 күн бұрын
Your sound is wayyyyyy to low
@pulp420
@pulp420 4 күн бұрын
Dude just destroyed his own movie and possibly career. For Eminem’s clown from 8 mile.
@jacksonhunkle2444
@jacksonhunkle2444 4 күн бұрын
Sadly the American Dream is long dead
@deviljin22
@deviljin22 4 күн бұрын
Really? American 🇺🇸 dream is dead for lazy people yes. For many it’s never been easier.
@jacksonhunkle2444
@jacksonhunkle2444 4 күн бұрын
@ yeah when the American dream is only available for many, and not most or all, that’s not the American dream anymore lmao but nice job tooting your own horn as if no one poor works hard. Really speaks to the American quality of bragging about being average
@christophertomasello1227
@christophertomasello1227 4 күн бұрын
The movie going public was iffy about the black Captain America ...but after this little stunt ...now we're sure
@Pope-of-Comics
@Pope-of-Comics 4 күн бұрын
100% Swag
@old_man_marvel
@old_man_marvel 4 күн бұрын
Well done swag, bravo
@taylorbolton349
@taylorbolton349 4 күн бұрын
Who cares wasn’t going to watch this garbage movie anyway
@jcoroner1189
@jcoroner1189 4 күн бұрын
Captain liberal socialist
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