Opening the doors to vent the smoke so that it doesn't damage the interior? What champions this crew are! And the water was on the fire very quickly.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Agree. And the old school ‘firewall’ between engine and passenger compartment did its job.
@dt1532 жыл бұрын
For those of use who own classic vehicles, that is one of our worst fears. The Fire Dept did a great job of acting quickly, and being careful not to cause any additional damage to the car
@letsdiscussitoversometea8479Ай бұрын
The UK has a fire *_department_* now, does it???
@aportman582 жыл бұрын
Considering the advancement of the fire it could have been much worse if hadn't been extinguished so quickly! Great job fire crew!!!
@1mikefrost2 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking. But repairable thanks to the firefighters .
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53293 ай бұрын
Great job for the firefighters to come to the scene to get the fire on that jaguar out
@PeterSwinkels3 жыл бұрын
I hope the owner can get his car properly restored. That looks like a really nice classic!
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Fewer and fewer of these original oldies are still on the road.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
@@HuskyGamersUNITE. 100% agree. And the owner must also know how to use that fire extinguisher most effectively- delay and the advantage is lost. Every second counts.
@RandyDarkshade22 жыл бұрын
@@HuskyGamersUNITE Also, fuel lines can deteriorate and leak, it's good to check those regularly as well.
@levelcrossing1502 жыл бұрын
@@RandyDarkshade2 Ethanol added to petrol has now increased the chances of damage to pipelines and petrol related parts.
@simbee36342 жыл бұрын
@@HuskyGamersUNITE The liquid and white foam around the front of the car at the start of the video might indicate that a fire extinguisher has already been used... but not enough to stop the fire.
@MikeGMcDermott3 жыл бұрын
Poor Jag. Well done to the fire brigade. Top job!
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Saved the car.
@cycleSCUBA3 жыл бұрын
Yep, dealt with safely and thoroughly. They also have the means to deal with the liquid nasties that leak from burning vehicles before they pollute the environment.
@mipamat5804 Жыл бұрын
USA firefighters please note: Tender arrived at 01:34, High pressure hose deployed with water on fire at 01:53 with none of this messing about getting dry hoses out in straight lines. Well done UK Firefighters.
@timothypaulduquemun84002 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the crew commander putting water on there first
@Joe748544 ай бұрын
Not crew-commander with white hat would of been watch manager next level up
@rustynail6819 Жыл бұрын
I've always been an advocate of the hard realed trash line. They're very underrated. You can get water on the fire in under 20 seconds of arrival. I don't see many US engines with hose reals anymore.
@ctiley22122 жыл бұрын
Out of the truck and water on the fire in about a sixteenth of the time any American crew can do it, these fellows are professionals.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Having water onboard the appliance with a pump and long hose is a British tactic that goes back to fighting the fires in London during Blitz when bombs had destroyed the water mains.
@vinylseat2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Those great American firefighters need that hose reel badly. They need to demand better kit. Fantastic engines but no water!
@Grayarea321 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow, by the time the guys had their scba on the fire was out…
@Grayarea321 Жыл бұрын
@@vinylseatmost American engines carry between 500-1000 gallons of water. FYI. Ladder trucks may or may not carry water depending on local jurisdiction.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
They also have the strong and responsible work ethic that USA fireplayers lack.
@1real112 жыл бұрын
What a shame, hope the repair/restoration is viable. Nice job by fireman, and great to see them take care of the car and contents.
@wildthing16092 жыл бұрын
easy fix great job by the fire crew , they saved a classic
@copkiller-du2ld3 ай бұрын
Great shame.Hopefully , this classic jag is restored again
@sherihancroft2 жыл бұрын
such a shame to see a classic in distress like that good to see that the fire was contained so quickly too
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Prompt action from Fire Crew saved the day.
@MrPabsUk3 жыл бұрын
That was burning around the carbs..
@messylaura Жыл бұрын
great work on the fire crew part, treated the car with respect and didn't do additional damage, seen a few butcher cars for the sake of it
@MrAshton754 ай бұрын
Lovely camera work, nice scenery lovely architecture well done..👍
@gillesrenaud6926 Жыл бұрын
Now I would like to see a series of videos about the restauration of this amazing car. I hope for all of us, that they will do it.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
That would be great, wouldn't it?
@chriscatarcio29832 жыл бұрын
Good job. No dicking around. Stand back get water on the fire. While they get gear on. No nuckel head with a bar prying the hood open. Breaking out the glass. Well done.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
💯%. Show them how it’s done.
@harryproud9679 Жыл бұрын
Yes brother fellow firefighter. Perfect attack, carefull .good easy job. I’m retired now.k31 then k21.known as Henry, or crazzzze H. 🦾😇🤪👍👍🤝
@prendoso3 жыл бұрын
What a shame, what a lovely car- the inside looked really well restored.
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
Luckily the doors were left closed so the interior had very little fire or water damage.
@prendoso3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewWLThomson Yes - good point.
@colinhoward742 жыл бұрын
That one was restored to a Coombs spec car , note the louvres on the bonnet and trimmed rear wheel arches , that was a carb fire , common with older jags , the car is in good condition and fully restorable , anyone who drives a Coombs spec Mk2 will have the correct insurance and undoubtably be able to go back to the restorer !
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Great effort by the fire brigade to save the car and not to damage it further. I’m sure it already back on the road.
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
Could this be a consequence of what the new E10 ethanol/petrol is having on (rubber) fuel delivery systems in older car engines?
@s.achaplin28483 жыл бұрын
I've been using the Ethanol fuel in my Mk2 and 420 here in the states for years--no problems whatsoever. Not saying it couldn't happen though, just my tuppence worth :)
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
@@s.achaplin2848 There is an outcry among vintage car collectors in the UK over the government introduced 10% ethanol mix in regular unleaded (E10) petrol.
@mikecartlidge53552 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewWLThomson Motorcycle owners too, one of the most important things is to make sure your vehicle is fitted with ethanol compatible fuel lines, I also add on each fill the latest incarnation of Castrol Valvemaster which contains a stabillizer to help prevent corrosion damage and also contains an octane booster. There are videos on here showing you how to remove ethanol from the fuel you just bought using water and the separation method, afterwards you need to add octane booster. I really feel sorry for the owner of this Jag.
@tomsixsix2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewWLThomson Surely a vintage car owner could afford super unleaded, which is 5% ethanol.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
@@tomsixsix. Decades of using the ethanol/petrol mix could have made those rubber fuel hoses break down and eventually spring a leak under pressure.
@PeakLifePotential3 жыл бұрын
Older cars have less plastic to feed the fire than modern cars.
@johnfranklin5277 Жыл бұрын
Very true, so much METAL and CHROME in my 58 caddy, even my 68 stang has a metal dash, metal interior doors ....
@pookyhogan3 жыл бұрын
Clearly efforts made not to damage the car further.
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The firemen “popped” the hood open rather than using crowbars or cutters.
@roverade13 жыл бұрын
breaks my heart to see this .....well done Trumpton
@andrewdaley30812 жыл бұрын
Same. 🇬🇧👍
@D5DRIFT2 жыл бұрын
Dreadful. Dumbass people still driving by, not knowing if there is any fuel, oil etc in the road. And also the risk of tyre explosion. Dumb to pass next to it.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Rubbernecking
@independentguy0072 жыл бұрын
Even after the fire it's still a beautiful motor.
@pistonbroke2 жыл бұрын
At least they got there in good time. That car can be saved.
@nevillemason679111 ай бұрын
Fortunately this was Ryde where the fire station has a fire crew during the daytime. Night-time they respond from their home address so an additional 5+ minutes delay. Only Newport has full time crews 24/7. The other 8 Isle of Wight fire stations only have on-call (retained) firefighters.
@Joe748544 ай бұрын
Why did that idiot walked right through the smoke ,they could of went the other side of the car Lolol
@AndrewWLThomson4 ай бұрын
Old school car fire. No Li batteries heavy metal fumes. Just good old petrol, rubber and paint.
@rossbaines25682 жыл бұрын
what a shame such a nice old classic car, don't se them very often at all
@TrainsOnGoPro3 жыл бұрын
Nice Jag! Nice fire truck!
@2760ade Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if this was restored? Shame if it wasn't, it was valued at 12-15k at an auction in 2021, but was withdrawn. It also shows MOT expired 2020. Would love to know - beautiful Jag!!
@craigclaassen7346 Жыл бұрын
This was the Jaguar from the era when you needed two, one to drive while the other one was being repaired.
@f-tech5497 Жыл бұрын
major BS
@crazyleyland51062 жыл бұрын
So glad they put out the fire so quickly. In America they would have probably used a disc cutter to open the bonnet - certainly in LA.
@paulsullivan4452 жыл бұрын
Thank God the UK has the very best fire service in the world. In the USA they would have fumbled around until it was burned out.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how many times I've thought that while watching KZbin videos. Having a pressurised water hose-reel on the back of the appliance is the difference.
@clivebuckley65112 жыл бұрын
In the USA several appliances would have responded, the firefighters would have spent valuable time running out yards and yards of hose and meanwhile the car would have been totally destroyed. Regular KZbin viewers will have seen that time and time again. Top marks for the swift and effective action here!
@johnfranklin5277 Жыл бұрын
@@clivebuckley6511Greetings from Southern California, sunny and 73 degrees today! But come on Clive, stop picking on us!.....your absolute right of course...dont know why, but its true.
@11ghudson Жыл бұрын
Gump you’re a freaking genius
@sugarbertie1143 Жыл бұрын
I've watched the YT videos of the lads in Belgium, Netherlands and Germany as well as the UK, they're straight on the fire as well within seconds of arriving. Some of the US videos I just shake my head! The best one was of a car fire in a car park , the first engine to arrive was a ladder engine (WTF?) and by the time a water tender arrived the fire had spread to about 6 other cars and still no water on the fire!!
@andrewdaley54802 жыл бұрын
Seen this a year ago utube re recommended it again. I wonder if its been restored again. 🇬🇧 👍
@TheLeedsAppreciationSociety2 жыл бұрын
In addition to possible leaking fuel lines, if dirt or rust gets into the carbs, they overflow. Unless they are modified for safety, the fuel pours onto the chassis rail and / or the ground.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Yes, probably what happened here. Clearly the driver turned off the ignition and stopped the car as soon as they saw smoke. This would have stopped the fuel pump and limited the fire.
@mfinn80 Жыл бұрын
This looks like it was on its way to a sale as it was withdrawn from an auction on the 24th September 2021. Terrible shame but hope it got restored and then back out for sale
@AndrewWLThomson Жыл бұрын
Correct. I looked up the Registration and found it listed for auction on the Isle of Wight. Withdrawn as you said. I hope it was saved. Originally owned by a former French racing driver back in the 1960’s.
@johnfranklin5277 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was indeed thinking OH NOOO, when this popped up on my screen. I have 2 very nice and very sentimental cars car i would be INCONSOLABLE IF THEY WERE LOST. My 1958 Cadillac that my parents bought in 1960, I was 1 year old...and my 68 Mustang I bought in 1977, when I was 18. Both lifelong Southern California cars, in great shape and on the road. I keep 2 fire extinguishers in each car. Replacing them every 4 years. Never had cause to use one, but better safe than sorry The wiring in both cars is totally original, everything works fine, but still...I even keep a fire extinguisher in my brand new cars.. so hoping this jag can be repaired and get back on the old road!
@AndrewWLThomson Жыл бұрын
From the heart. Good comment.
@Jimmythefish5772 жыл бұрын
You know you need to work in your SCBA drills if the officer not wearing SCBA has the fire suppressed before you’ve got your hood and helmet back on, this is the second video I’ve seen where that’s happened. I honestly don’t know why we don’t have high pressure booster lines on the trucks out here in North America, quick, efficient and way better than flaking out 500ft of 1-1/2” attack line for a vehicle fire. 🤷🏽♂️
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
100% agreed
@richardlindsay24962 жыл бұрын
A problem sadly these days where the BA sets are not carried in the cab so can’t be donned en route.
@Metlamaniac2 жыл бұрын
They definitely don’t need to ‘work on their SCBA’ drills. That’s just how long it takes in the UK for non life critical calls. They can do a quicker drill for when they are needed for life rescue. And you’re right about the high pressure. I have no idea why it’s not standard for all fire appliances. Even a going house fire can initially benefit from hose reels with the revs ip high. SOOOO much quicker
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
@@Metlamaniac. Yep. Seconds save lives. “Get water on that fire”
@axolotlgamer6152 жыл бұрын
They were heavy winds coming in shore I see.
@ShevillMathers Жыл бұрын
Sad to see a classic in this state. By the way, correct designation is Jaguar Mark 2, I have one and this ‘Mark 2’ emblem is on the rear right boot lid. A common error Mark lol.
@SteamPowerMadness2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea what caused the fire? I don't want it to happen to our 1963 E Type
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
I didn't followup with the driver or the fire dept. But from what I was able to see it appeared that it was a fuel line fire - old cars have old rubber fuel lines that perish over time. Luckily the driver turned off the ignition as soon as he did which stopped the fuel pump - and stopped the fire spreading. He also unlatched the hood and used a fire extinguisher on it initially before the fire dept arrived. Always carry a good fire extinguisher in the car and get all fuel lines checked and replaced if its an older car.
@mana3735 Жыл бұрын
That's actually painful to see.
@donbain7323 жыл бұрын
20years ago I had a number of old Saab's, 99 turbo best of the bunch and first thing I did was install fire extinguisher just in case.
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
My father always kept fire extinguishers in his cars when we were growing up. I’ve done the same in all my cars and my children’s. If you catch the fire early and fight it quickly it may save a life and a car. Not necessarily your own car either.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
20 seconds to get water flowing! That sure as heck wasn't in the USA! USA fireplayers would have waited until a hydrant was flowing, ladders were in place, and the roof was vented.
@TrendMedizin2 жыл бұрын
Ausgezeichnet, angekommen und sofort gelöscht! Ein großes Kompliment an die Feuerwehr! Spitze!
@udokampfinger63742 жыл бұрын
A good thing about this fire is that it was a British car ,you don't even have to open the hood to extinguish the fire as the seams are so wide and misaligned water got through and extinguished the fire .On any other car they would have to force or cut the hood open.
@nevillemason6791 Жыл бұрын
That's total nonsense. At 0:55 you can clearly see the bonnet (not 'hood' in the UK) is partially open and a pool of foam under the car. The driver has obviously opened it and tried using an extinguisher, unsuccessfully. He's partially closed it too to restrict air/wind getting to the flames. At 3:49 the firefighter lifts the undamaged bonnet open (not been wrenched open).
@briannash19822 жыл бұрын
WM Pump operator and BA Control, CM Oic????
@CDB89397 ай бұрын
The WM was not the Pump Op, He was doing Eco, Probably the CM is in development and carrying out Oic role under the WM's observation
@NedPooleD8183 жыл бұрын
Is this the alternative ending to Withnail and I??
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
“Never mix your drinks…”
@NedPooleD8183 жыл бұрын
….except with cake…..Chin Chin:-))
@union3102 жыл бұрын
Right off for sure, they wouldn't replace my brothers bumper.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Yea true. Depends what this classic was worth - my guess is £12k. If it’s gonna cost more than £12k to fix then it’s a right off. Pity.
@union3102 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewWLThomson Hopefully classic insurance on it.
@andrewdaley54802 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewWLThomson they fix the ex minder capri after a fire a bit worse than this. But i suppose you have to put your own money in as well. Oh and the car looks very good now if you have not seen the before and after pics. 🇬🇧 👍
@richardrimell60302 жыл бұрын
must have been serious the watch manager is fighting the fire.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Get water on that fire asap
@terence26782 жыл бұрын
Older cars like these should really carry fire extinguishers. Not expensive.
@andrewdaley54802 жыл бұрын
Yes and a decent sized one most little fire extinguishers only run for a few seconds even a very large one you will only get 14 seconds out of it. 🇬🇧 👍
@nevillemason6791 Жыл бұрын
If you notice the bonnet is partially open and a big pool of foamy water under the car. Someone's tried to use an extinguisher unsuccessfully.
@keith8002 жыл бұрын
Lets hope the Jag is not beyond redemption , hats off to the Fire men.
@Mrfort2 жыл бұрын
Well done the boys in red, had water on the flames within twenty seconds of arrival! shame it wasn`t foam though?
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Yes, good job guys. I think putting in a foam additive would have taken a bit longer but I’m sure they had it and were ready if there was a fuel spill. Most UK car fires are extinguished quickly with just the water spray.
@Mrfort2 жыл бұрын
Water and petrol don't mix very well, foam smothered the flame.but hay, still a good job!
@reluctantheist522410 ай бұрын
@@MrfortThey don't but it seems as though the fire crew knows what to do.
@markjohnson93012 жыл бұрын
Was this car written off or could it be restored?
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Good question. Sadly we may never know. But I know it was listed for auction before the fire happened.
@nevillemason6791 Жыл бұрын
The car's registration at the DVLC is shown as still registered to that Jag. (Jan. 2023) but SORN (Statutory Off the Road Notice) so it looks like someone still has hopes of restoring it.
@bobmorrison56362 жыл бұрын
"Oh the humanity "
@Sam-cz2bz Жыл бұрын
The firefighters worked faster on a burning car than a burning house.
@brendanbutcher14763 жыл бұрын
Not a criticism but a genuine question.... Why is the Sub/crew manager (yellow helmet 2 stripes) the incident commander and the SO/watch manager (White helmet) the BECO? They've arrived in the same appliance
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
Good observation. Only the IoW FB would know the answer to that one.
@CymruEmergencyResponder3 жыл бұрын
He may have been on development and needed command experience for portfolio.
@claudeleclercq81692 жыл бұрын
Rapide et efficace Bravo messieurs
@sirmarek782 жыл бұрын
Shame on every damn driver passing and not stopping and trying to help with their car fire extinguishe. Its breaking my heart to see such a beatifull car on fire. Luckly fire crew did great job.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Fire crew saved the car. Amazing how quick action with just water can stop a fire.
@Brian135492 жыл бұрын
What the hell were they going to do? Not every car has a fire extinguisher.
@sirmarek782 жыл бұрын
@@Brian13549 I thought is a mandatory for every car to have 1.
@IansOddInterests3 жыл бұрын
Lol...that 2nd bloke needs to practice putting on his BA set... But he was good at walking about ...
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
Yes he was fussing a bit. Probably a trainee. But the UK firefighters do get water on the fire asap after arrival, unlike the firefighters in all the USA videos who all walk around for minutes waiting for hoses to be rolled out - and the fire to totally destroy whatever is burning. Why?
@IansOddInterests3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewWLThomson I know what you mean re USA firefighters....have a laugh at this one...kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnbblIWAp8SffZY........U.K. firefighters are a different class
@ffjsb2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewWLThomson Bullshit. YOu have NO idea of what you're talking about. We DON'T roll out hose, it's preconnected and we can put 3-4 times as much water on a fire making it go out faster.
@ffjsb2 жыл бұрын
@@IansOddInterests Only a moron thinks every fire dept. in the US is the same. We have THOUSANDS of different depts. That on was a volunteer dept. in Pennsylvania, the one state that has nearly NO training standards for volunteers.
@IansOddInterests2 жыл бұрын
@@ffjsb omg.. ffjsb. Stands for I think in your head ...... I am FF Just So Brilliant . Lol... the most incompetent Idiot on the fireground... change your name to ffDI..Firefighter dangerous and incompetent
@ralphhurdman5581 Жыл бұрын
If that was USA that Jag would be toast
@seangregorygurley84292 жыл бұрын
Well done lads
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, saved the car
@seangregorygurley84292 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed
@Rayfaedundee Жыл бұрын
Such a shame to see such a Classic Jaguar like this. Anyone who owns a classic or any car should have a powdered fire extinguisher in there car for this reason..
@firekev45252 жыл бұрын
BA TEAM WERE FUCKING ABOUT FOR LONG ENOUGH
@andrewdaley54802 жыл бұрын
Bit jealous me thinks. 🇬🇧 👍
@raymondfunnel6856 Жыл бұрын
This is such a shame this is a vintage vehicle
@flagwanker63462 жыл бұрын
Not anymore it’s not
@spadgm Жыл бұрын
What a shame such a beautiful old Jag!
@jgsmile13313 жыл бұрын
Why!!?!!!!!
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
Could have been electrical but more likely a petrol fuel line leak. Older cars have rubber fuel lines that can perish and crack from using the new petrol formula.
@jgsmile13313 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewWLThomson That is a shame.
@PeterSwinkels3 жыл бұрын
Why? As unfortunate as it sometimes a fault in a car causes a fire.
@Brian135492 жыл бұрын
Ok trouble with the SCBA or BA it's called in the UK and wearing rubber gloves on a car fire even if they are under his fire fighting gloves not so smart.
@mikeymcmikeface5599 Жыл бұрын
This, and a crash, are why I wouldn't drive a unique or rare vehicle.
@essexlad8603 жыл бұрын
That is gutting to watch
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
It sure was.
@grantpetersen10493 жыл бұрын
Really sad 😥
@AndrewWLThomson3 жыл бұрын
Very. A Piece of preserved history (almost) destroyed.
@pratt111112 жыл бұрын
by the time they get b\a sets on fire be out
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the power of getting water on a fire fast does it’s job quickly. The b/a guys (and girl) need more practice - but it is a quiet town.
@richardwani28032 жыл бұрын
The poor jag
@Nothing_Nothing4853 жыл бұрын
Nooooooooooo 😭
@veronikakolandova58432 жыл бұрын
🥺🥺🥺
@darrynlewis32522 жыл бұрын
Has a cornish number plate.
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
That is interesting. Could be the original number but I’m sure it’s changed hands a few times since it was first registered.
@nevillemason6791 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewWLThomson
@ffjsb2 жыл бұрын
WTF would the supervisor be using a Thermal Imaging Camera on a car fire???? Absolute stupidity. That's about as dumb as a laser sight on a sawed off shotgun...
@elinor65252 жыл бұрын
To see if there is residual heat after it's been extinguished, sufficient that it could reignite once the car is on a tow truck and and air is flowing past as it drives down the road. If it's still showing hot then more cooling before loading it onto a tow truck.
@lisareed4409 Жыл бұрын
Nooooo
@vandeberg649 Жыл бұрын
Zonde
@Blisken812 жыл бұрын
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
@AndrewWLThomson2 жыл бұрын
….well almost!
@lilahtiddles2 жыл бұрын
Soooo dangerous
@MaxPulse12 жыл бұрын
NNNNNOOOOOOO!!!
@alastairjhunter3666 Жыл бұрын
EV fires are better
@harryproud9679 Жыл бұрын
Could have been worst. All ways carry a foam exstingquisher. I carry two in my bmw 1999.😂😂😂