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Bobby Ang

Bobby Ang

Күн бұрын

So I just wanna correct a perception of cars being an 'asset'.

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@realtjliew
@realtjliew 6 жыл бұрын
As a financial consultant, I agree and I said the same thing to my clients and friends. My opinion tho, is that only thing matter is on your ability to purchase which class for car. Most young adults in Malaysia purchase cars with monthly payment that eats up at least 50% of their income, then it led to bankruptcy and so on.
@thebugbud
@thebugbud 6 жыл бұрын
agreed on your point. but people need to be mature enough to spend within their means. The real issue is, many buy beyond their affordability and hence clinging on resell value to recover money when being sold.
@derekow5638
@derekow5638 6 жыл бұрын
thebugbud correct, for me, I have this thought where if a person worries so much about resale value, it means that the person can't financially support the car he has or wants to buy.
@tj88825
@tj88825 5 жыл бұрын
First things first, I think Bobby has used some pretty good analogies that were explained rather poorly (sorry Bobby). Shoes (or cars) are a product you buy and own; but like any product, it will depreciate overtime. What you can control is the utility you gain out of the money you've paid. If you take a 5 year loan and keep a car going for 10 years; you basically have 5 years of additional utility without having to repay the bank. i.e. Drive for 10 years, pay bank for 5 years. Now think of Maxis (a service subscription) as a car leasing programme. You never really own the network (or car) but you get to use it as long as you pay every month. i.e. Drive for 10 years, pay dealer for 10 years. Does that mean there's no depreciation in leasing? Actually, there is. When you take up a leasing programme, there is no interest from a bank loan. Therefore, the amount you pay to the dealer every month is literally the depreciation cost of the vehicle - that's how leasing programmes work. Road tax and insurance costs are also loaded into monthly repayments. Side note, insurance costs on a leased vehicle are typically higher than a personal car because dealers usually get maximum coverage on everything. Some coverage areas may not even be applicable to you personally, but you have to pay for it anyway. A leasing programme is for you if you see yourself wanting a new car every 3 to 5 years. A hire purchase gives you more control on how much utility you can get out of a vehicle for the price you paid after the tenure has ended...keep it running for the next 10, 15, or even 20 years! In a nutshell, you cannot escape depreciation either way. So I think what Bobby is trying to say is...don't fret, buy something within your capacity and just enjoy the drive.
@NightSkyTower
@NightSkyTower 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro...one of the best breakdown on car buying... leasing or owning
@mr123undead
@mr123undead 3 жыл бұрын
one way to escape depreciation, buy an old toyota honda(
@carfusion5162
@carfusion5162 6 жыл бұрын
People should buy cars they could afford. People tend to buy cars just so they can please people who does not even give a crap! If you can't afford, don't think about owning one.
@JeremyLoveTech123
@JeremyLoveTech123 6 жыл бұрын
1000% agree.
@derekow5638
@derekow5638 6 жыл бұрын
Adrian Chin damn straight. If everyone is so damn worried about car prices, the best solution is u know... the myvi ;)
@kkhalifah1019
@kkhalifah1019 6 жыл бұрын
Oh that's a pretty arrogant statement -- Perodua has been selling the most cars, and it's best seller is (according to you) 'the choice of those worried about price'.
@derekow5638
@derekow5638 6 жыл бұрын
K Khalifah how is that arrogant? Isn't the myvi the best econo car?
@cokango
@cokango 6 жыл бұрын
2nd hand myvi better still, save u alot of $$$$ for ur dream bmw
@BobbyAngmalaysia
@BobbyAngmalaysia 6 жыл бұрын
HOMAIGAAD you guys so interested in smelly shoes and a stupid fat orang utan giving financial advise .... this was a random clip I had in my laptop before i wanted to delete the folder as my depreciating laptop is running out of storage space. It really sucks because my depreciating SSD which I bought earlier on had 500GB of space but now it's only left with 45GB. Anyway, I'm thinking of spending RM50,000 to do up my garden but when i think about the depreciation ratio of all my future flowers and trees I'm not sure if i really want that. Should've just stayed at a friend's place all my life just so I won't make losses of any kind.
@l0stcluster2
@l0stcluster2 6 жыл бұрын
ya we favour this kind vid
@seanliew7343
@seanliew7343 6 жыл бұрын
lostcluster2 This is what I called trying to paint a masterpiece out from your newspaper full of nonsense.
@muhammadafif6714
@muhammadafif6714 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby Ang can you explain more regarding the financial plan most automobile company offering now
@boonkhongfoo2438
@boonkhongfoo2438 6 жыл бұрын
From my personal experience (people that I know etc) the folks that complains about car resale values, or worries about depreciation, tend to pay good money for iPhoneX, but drive econoboxes. It's just their way of justification.
@lansiman
@lansiman 6 жыл бұрын
Boon Khong Foo a good Japanese car is 15-25X the price of iPhone X, while a good euro car is 50x the price of iPhone X, not inclusive of maintenance and interest, while iPhone x essentially no maintenance needed. why you even compare the 2
@pkgan
@pkgan 6 жыл бұрын
yes, i can understand your statement...i m one of the folks thinking that myvi is good car ...until my 'atas' boss changed my views...rich ppl think different way...
@Blazilvez
@Blazilvez 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed with this but this topic is self-opinionated. People who aren't into cars will talk depreciation bullshit but a petrolhead would think differently. This doesn't mean those people are "stupid", they just have different opinions. They see cars as assets that will depreciate cause they're not really into cars.
@seanliew7343
@seanliew7343 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Tee I totally agree with you period. What I don’t agree is why on earth is Bobby has to take so many pairs of smelly shoes to explain it!?? What’s the fuss and tension about?? Simple equation does not need high tech explanations bro. Btw, he left out insurance underwriters!
@seanliew7343
@seanliew7343 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Tee I totally agree with you period. What I don’t agree is why on earth is Bobby has to take so many pairs of smelly shoes to explain it!?? What’s the fuss and tension about?? Simple equation does not need high tech explanations bro. Btw, he left out insurance underwriters!
@derekow5638
@derekow5638 6 жыл бұрын
Sean Liew dude, u gotta remember there are idiots out there who don't understand what we understand😉. Cause they are not even true petrolheads if they can't understand
@kkhalifah1019
@kkhalifah1019 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby comes across as arrogant in dissing car buyers who choose to or are forced to be a bit more careful with their money. As if he views with contempt all those who cannot afford not to give a shit about depreciation. So lansi meh? He didn't have to get worked up over a valid and justified consumer behaviour.
@seanliew7343
@seanliew7343 6 жыл бұрын
Chin Wee Ow I believe everyone understands him perfectly but as Sonny said he might be just another wannabe and cocky. To be honest, most of the times he doesn’t review cars on what potential buyers should know, for example suspension or NVH in details. What we got is his blah...blah and more blah! And furthermore nowadays he has got a sidekick smiling all the way. For me and most of us, we need detailed information about the car reviewed and not salesman speech.
@thana78
@thana78 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Businesses has become services and no longer are just products. Just the same... cars are now worth for the emotion, extension of your possibilities, your passion and how it completes you. Agree not everyone are in this space but that is the future. We won't own cars in the future. There's ride sharing, leasing, fully automated cars and the next great thing which we can't conceive about. I have a smile each time I take my car out driving and am finding every excuse I can to do so... people should start to learn to live their lives.
@horngkaichee9024
@horngkaichee9024 6 жыл бұрын
If I marry a wife, what would be her depreciation cost per year? Shall I lease or marry a wife?
@artharlim123
@artharlim123 6 жыл бұрын
Horng Kai Chee Lease on short term so can you charge the expense to statement of profit and loss ! Haha
@JHLee47
@JHLee47 6 жыл бұрын
You can lease 45 minutes at a time too, depending on your... requirements.
@myrchobby1
@myrchobby1 6 жыл бұрын
Lease of course
@jaymax9560
@jaymax9560 6 жыл бұрын
Next years model will be better than this years. Lease it unless you cant afford it. In that case, buy but don't complain about depreciation because it will depreciate. - Booby Ang
@thaneshkumar9819
@thaneshkumar9819 6 жыл бұрын
Go for thailand brand. They sell good and cheap....
@vincenio
@vincenio 6 жыл бұрын
Just different ppl come with different perception.. Some ppl preferred luxury stuffs like watches, other branded stuffs which might no resell value at all but still non stop buying, traveling which bring back some sweet memories, something that others might not understand or appreciate at all but this is what we call human.. Enjoy your life with something u like the most and reachable.. Cheersss..
@MeHaziq
@MeHaziq 6 жыл бұрын
His different perception is by calling others stupid.
@dogymal7260
@dogymal7260 6 жыл бұрын
dude. in the book. car is liability.
@yutakatong2443
@yutakatong2443 6 жыл бұрын
the most unlogical explanation. we are talking about a car that cost 50k and a shoes and air cons only cost rm100 and rm1000. the max depreciation for a car is max 50k and a air conditioning max depreciation is 1k. what is the majority salary in Malaysia 2k to 3k. this kind of opinion please keep it to the rich people
@royalprince5878
@royalprince5878 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I am a fan of him but I'm shocked by this video. Full of Bs
@royalprince5878
@royalprince5878 5 жыл бұрын
If I wanna buy a Mercedes Benz or BMW that costs 200 to 400k, apart from cutting edge technology and superior performance, I would definitely expect reasonable maintenance cost (of cos I don't expect Myvi's dirt cheap level), build quality, reliability and durability. Not everyone who buys Merc or BMW are wealthy. Even the wealthiest persons in the world are very frugal and particular. In my opinion, I expect quality, durability and reliability. Basic scheduled maintenance would do. I don't expect unscheduled service centre visits, breakdowns, stupid or severe mechanical or electronic issues.
@royalprince5878
@royalprince5878 5 жыл бұрын
Buying an expensive car is supposed to be value for money. Just because its exorbitant in price, that doesn't justify massive maintenance.
@royalprince5878
@royalprince5878 5 жыл бұрын
If you research thoroughly, you would discover that expensive luxury cars consume lesser petrol than cheaper so called economical cars in spite of heavy body and superior performance
@jdfd4906
@jdfd4906 5 жыл бұрын
Royal Prince impossible for day to day city traffic. On highway, possible. My 1.8 ton 3 litre turbo sedan only gets 6km/L in city traffic. Myvi will do 10 easily. On highway at 130kmh, sure the myvi will use more fuel since it’s operating at 70% of the power whereas I am at 40%.
@VacancyJB
@VacancyJB 6 жыл бұрын
Ppl buy the cars they could afford, who doesn't want a luxury car without bothering the cost of maintenance and depreciation? the reality is... car is expensive, would you recommend a total 3k monthly income family to buy a Mercedes or BMW? If cars is the same price as your Air-con, i don't think anyone will bother the depreciation/maintenance cost.
@stefanfreestylez
@stefanfreestylez 6 жыл бұрын
VacancyJB depends... id recommend like an e46 325i or ci. Theyre good on gas and never break better than that family buying a toyota or honda or some other trash
@myphetamine
@myphetamine 6 жыл бұрын
IF you could loan a premium brand with 3k household lol
@keavy2163
@keavy2163 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t sell your car = self value remains the same .. cars are not investment , they are our companion on the road. Does your Wife depreciate? Some say yes . Some say no. Think about it
@Flex-tl1cz
@Flex-tl1cz 5 жыл бұрын
You can’t compare a car to a shoe or a refrigerator. They have different price levels compare to average salaries. The problem is not the car. The problem is when people get a car that sets them back financially. This would also be true if someone bought a very expensive shoe on credit while having a very low income. People just need to buy what they can really afford.
@boonidentity
@boonidentity 6 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, cars outside of Bolehland are consumables like shoe. However, cars in Bolehland are more than asset, to some extend, a luxury given the week dollar, high taxes paid to the garmen. Ppl take up loans up to 9 years just to make it affordable to own it by paying enormous amount in bank interest. At then end of 9 years, the car probably worth 10% or 20% (if u r lucky) of it’s original price. Is worth spending ur hard earn cash into a consumable? I would rather take a fraction of the installment to buy an iPhone X instead.
@MeHaziq
@MeHaziq 6 жыл бұрын
Any Singaporean agree with this statement?
@seanliew7343
@seanliew7343 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby I believe I got your point precisely. Smelly shoes are not necessary.
@shantinathsarthinathan4458
@shantinathsarthinathan4458 6 жыл бұрын
Airconds is a small part of our income but a car is a big part of our income. I know you love cars Bobby, and I respect that.
@82rayzel
@82rayzel 6 жыл бұрын
i don't know what upset you so much about people talking about depreciation. some people never do a proper budget on owning a car they desire vs require. they end up with financial difficulties just to maintain the car when the major parts started to fail them. japanese made sold here are more reliable and easily repaired or perceived to be such hence it's easier to sell in the 2nd hand market. the value of 2nd cars ia driven by supply and demand. not much on depreciation la dude. chill laaa
@kanzkang3075
@kanzkang3075 6 жыл бұрын
I am a financial adviser but not a financial 'anal'yst you can make videos like this but please don't make statement like that about us, not every financial adviser is against buying a car, my customer, started doing his pasar malam business, he wants to buy a perdua myvi and consulted me last week, i told him go ahead, you should upgrade to a better car now since you got some money to spare,really dissapointed with your statement la bobby, because i am really passionate about my job and i take pride in my work, just like you.
@BobbyAngmalaysia
@BobbyAngmalaysia 6 жыл бұрын
haha really just my personal rant after watching some 'guru' stating the obvious in front of a group of students. I can totally replace the subject of 'car' in his speech with so many other things. :p
@joariefjohannarieftham8890
@joariefjohannarieftham8890 4 жыл бұрын
Just my two cents... 1) Depreciation Value - Most people who are concerned about their car depreciation value is the people who wants to sell back their cars after like 5 years for example (or within thier loan tenure) and expect to either gain some money to for their next car downpayment or break even price so that they can cover/settle the remaining loan balance upon upgrading to other cars without the need to fought more out money just to clear with the bank... that's why for them depreciation value matters. Myself, I drove Saga Flx 1.6 and took a 9 years loan. I even paid slightly higher dp for my saga in 2014.... but if i want sell my car now, the market value vs loan is about 3k less than my full settlement amout, hence, I need to pay 3k+ to the bank before I can even think of foughting out more money for the dp of a new car. And of course if u see the market value vs loan balance (market value based on Mycarinfo) for a myvi vs saga of the same year, your will indeed get better value for myvi. So ya.. for this scenario I do think depreciation value do matters for some people. And the huge difference between car and shoes = car is much more expensive, for some, u need to sell your cars in order to buy another and cars do have a secondhand market unlike shoes (except for the collectables, rare type of shoes, sneakers.etc) Some might says don't invest in cars bla2.. ya I also disagree with that statement, however, I think if you compare Cars vs House (I mean both are assets right), Car is also rather essential to have these days but not a good investment if to be compared to a house as cars value depreciate and house most if the time goes up in value. But nevertheless it doesn't mean you shouldn't buy a car. 2) Maintenance price etc - I agree with u, maintenance is rather unavoidable
@oumaniac
@oumaniac 6 жыл бұрын
In cheap labor countries like Indonesia, buy a used luxury car. Cheap price, and you can still enjoy a lot of comfort/driving features - albeit not the latest and greatest stuff. I have an 08 730 Li, I laugh at lower level new cars costing 10 times as much. In Singapore - it's not a good idea to maintain an old 7 series lol...Take advantage of what you have locally, buy what you can comfortably afford.
@stefanfreestylez
@stefanfreestylez 6 жыл бұрын
BMWE66 why is it not good in singapore to maintian older car? U have to pay some extra taxes and stuff if car is too old? Btw the motor in that car is a gem that thing never really goes bad assuming its the m54
@oumaniac
@oumaniac 6 жыл бұрын
Because Singapore has high labor costs - it will get really expensive to maintain oldies lol. My motor is the N52. I have an M54 on my E46, and an M52 on my E39
@henryee
@henryee 6 жыл бұрын
C'mon, depreciation rate is only for Singapore (in Malaysia you can use you 20 yrs old car so long the car still maintained well), and it is for Accountant like me.~ It is basically just an accounting term.
@bnwk5
@bnwk5 6 жыл бұрын
How much is a car? And how much is a pair of shoes?
@bnwk5
@bnwk5 6 жыл бұрын
In the context of an.average Joe's financial worth, what's the significance of a car compared to a shoe? You go figure out in financial terms.
@madamhousewife4713
@madamhousewife4713 Жыл бұрын
Where you buy the Japanese saddle?
@Svsk1910
@Svsk1910 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't Porsche do something like this with their new 360 financing? How does it work?
@joshmin68
@joshmin68 4 жыл бұрын
Brevity is the soul of wit. In short it can be summarised as "Live within your means"
@balarubensurash9048
@balarubensurash9048 21 күн бұрын
Bobby you are killing it man !! great explanation
@mightymiti1930
@mightymiti1930 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Bobby. Please make videos on how to buy used BMW, whether it is worth it.... haha, fresh graduate aspiring to buy one here
@xMrPC
@xMrPC Жыл бұрын
They always say Toyota is good at maintenance, my idealogy is that the manufacturer did not use 100% capacity of the engine and keep it around 50% usage hence the life of the engine can last longer. Also with lesser performance, wear and tear might be lesser. Vice versa, in F1, the engineers are trying to cap their car engine and testing the limits of reliability + maximum output. Also an example like Usain Bolt, he run very fast and it requires a lot maintenance and upkeep for him to be in the best form. U can also run 100m at X second. So be going after a pretty/ handsome partner, they spend a lot in facial care, makeup, bodybuilding etc. If you really want a luxurious car, you must be ready for the cost of living. Of course depends on how much you enjoy driving relative to cost. Some drive a normal car but has a very expensive bicycle for weekly cycling. If you want the lowest cost of living, can go for a 2nd hand car and enjoy free sports such as jogging vs golf/ tennis etc. My two cents on living.
@thineshchandra1066
@thineshchandra1066 6 жыл бұрын
U slapped it hard straight into those type of ppl Bobby! Hahaha. GOOD ONE mate!
@tanyannhwa4831
@tanyannhwa4831 6 жыл бұрын
I was like... Ouch-ing... For them xD
@LetsGORoadtrip
@LetsGORoadtrip 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely spoken Mr. Bobby.. i know a lots of financial advisor so called who cant event manage their own financial things other than giving advice to people about financial freedom 😂 Must show them this video 👍😁
@KaeSheng1
@KaeSheng1 2 жыл бұрын
Car lover/enthusiast aside, if you have a toyota and honda both costs 50k, you love both car equally, one depreciate more hence lower resale value, which would you choose? of course the one with higher resale value, that way u can sell and get back higher value and get another car of your liking.
@BobbyAngmalaysia
@BobbyAngmalaysia 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Cos "i love both equally"
@BobbyAngmalaysia
@BobbyAngmalaysia 2 жыл бұрын
What im saying, is that for car enthusiasts that wants to spend money on whatever, take it as a hobby, not everything can be measured with a "resale value"
@cminghan
@cminghan 6 жыл бұрын
car is not asset, its liability unless you purchase the car and do leasing , then it can consider as asset your video is too personal comment
@derekow5638
@derekow5638 6 жыл бұрын
cminghan ur definitely not a petrol head if u can't see the meaning behind his words😂 u took it too literally. A car is a liability to a common man but can u say the same for the car community? Some don't even bother buying a house.
@xiper86
@xiper86 6 жыл бұрын
this is indeed a personal video posted from his personal opinion. He has his opinion and everyone has their own as well, you can post your personal video too to talk about car is a liability and other opinions
@qaiyumhamid666
@qaiyumhamid666 6 жыл бұрын
The car itself is an asset, the hire purchase loan that come with it is a liability.
@muhammadafif6714
@muhammadafif6714 6 жыл бұрын
I do agree to what boby says, it just,if you buy a 500k car, after 10 years, the price is going to be 70-80k only, depreciation happend, compared to buying a house, 500k after 10 years, the price is going to be doubled, so , the chances of losing your money isnt as high as buying cars,
@mohdredzaaznam9128
@mohdredzaaznam9128 6 жыл бұрын
As Bobby once said in Kia Optima GT video, "you can sleep in your car but you can't take your house for a drive"..
@thowell3129
@thowell3129 6 жыл бұрын
Well in Malaysia if you try sleeping in the car, consider yourself lucky if you wake up alive. House would be much safer, and appreciates in value over time. Go figure. I understand what Bobby is trying to say but I'm glad that hes not my wealth manager 🤣
@zula5679
@zula5679 6 жыл бұрын
Bg
@thana78
@thana78 6 жыл бұрын
But what did you enjoy during that 7 years.... how did that make you feel. Where did it take you.... how did it extend from what you were already were...?
@muhammadafif6714
@muhammadafif6714 6 жыл бұрын
Thanabalasingam Krishnan Moogathy yes I do agree, we enjoy cars more, but if youre talking about asset, for sure cars wont give you any profit. Cars is not a good investment. It depreciate so much,
@SkyVergil83
@SkyVergil83 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know much bout the difference between the maintenance of owning a house compare to owning a car and I'm not very good in everything about cars or houses. But what I do agree upon is what Robert Kiyosaki said: "If you own a house, but it's taking money from your pocket... that's a liability, but if the house you own is giving you money in your pocket, that's an asset.". To me I felt the same. If I own a car and car's value depreciates, but this car is giving me money into my pocket, shouldn't I be appreciating this car as my "gold egg laying goose"? Surely we need to fork out some money to maintain a car. Just get a car that we able to maintain and accept the cost of the car maintenance/depreciation as "Give and Take". Bobby I do like what you say when you shows the Japanese "kik kok"(those old folks name it) wood slipper and your comment nails those complaints deep down to the drain.
@tacci4090
@tacci4090 6 жыл бұрын
What is the car you are in the video, Bobby? I like the inclination of the back seat. It looks amazing!!
@yutakatong2443
@yutakatong2443 6 жыл бұрын
if we bought a shoes rm200, we no need to take loan. we buy car need to take 5 figure loan and pay every month and can be bankrupt if we are not able to pay. shoes won't make us bankrupt and suffering paying bank every bank
@ahmadtajuddin7343
@ahmadtajuddin7343 5 жыл бұрын
Cars r like shoes... Can't agree enough
@chongyongli3291
@chongyongli3291 6 жыл бұрын
First of all,car is now indeed regarded as a daily commodity as it brings us places regardless of how far we will be going.There are various cars ranging from 20k to 2M which do exactly the same things for a ordinary human who lives in urban area if we put aside the specification and the details of that particular car.By all means,the more we pay,the more equipments we get to enjoy.We periodically maintain our car so that the car can keep doing its purpose,which is to take people places.A proprety,on the other hand,costs similarly to what car-buying costs.It is still needed to be furnished,as if we spec our car with different amenities.Similarly,a property has to be maintained.However,if speaking of the maintainance costs,is worthwhile in terms of the commercial value?Regardless of how obedient you are in owing a car,will the value of the car be doubled in the next 10 years?A property,however,the price must be higher than what it was.We can get more than what we have paid for a property.Majority of people invest in property like a SOHO to lend it to others as a source of income.Rarely do people rent their cars as almost each grown-ups owns a car.Therfore,it is more worthy buying a property than a car.Don't get me wrong,car is still a must-buy.Why don't we spend more on a property than a car?unless you're wealthy.
@chochocho25
@chochocho25 5 жыл бұрын
He’s just saying we don’t have to view cars as assets = buy. If you lease the car then there’s no consideration of depreciation. it’s just becomes a subscription like your mobile plans.
@livclw040589
@livclw040589 6 жыл бұрын
well, I agree with most of the part you just said. Car maintenance fee should be considered before buying a car thats what most people ignoring. But as for depreciation, everyone can have their own opinion and thats not 'stupid' they just see things differently. At the end of the day it depends on how you sees it. If you compare with shoes, depreciation is nothing even it depreciate 20% a year. But for others who might not car enthusiast, that rate of depreciation is not to be neglect due to the price. You compare it with shoes, some might compare it with property, they're not stupid especially for financial analyst. I like your content and I agree with you most of the time just wanna say that everyone can have own opinion.
@oricon1981
@oricon1981 6 жыл бұрын
Good one on Veloster...!!!! Finally someone share my view....!!!!!
@ngkhanmein
@ngkhanmein 6 жыл бұрын
The problem lies with the Malaysia cars are more expensive than majority countries.
@zaid.zainal
@zaid.zainal 6 жыл бұрын
In accounting terms, all the things you talked about, cars, air conditioners, tables, chairs are all asset. And all assets depreciate over time. Depending on the type of asset, the depreciation rate is between 10-20% every year. Vehicles are typically 20% depreciation per year. That is how it is, and these are all book value, so I don't see how your points invalidated this accounting calculation. Nobody is calling you stupid Bobby, so please be respectful of others too
@everygenericlogin
@everygenericlogin 6 жыл бұрын
Eh, it's simple. Earn more or find a cheaper hobby to derive pleasure from. Econoboxes are good enough for point A to point B driving. There is a car for everyone. But if you see a luxury car and go all bitter and enumerate about all the negatives like how much the maintenance will cost and how much the value will depreciate down the road, do yourself a favour, look away and talk about the weather.
@davyyeap82
@davyyeap82 4 жыл бұрын
U think u smart enough
@danishroshaidie3215
@danishroshaidie3215 6 жыл бұрын
I like this Bobby. Makes me smile for Toyota, Honda and Perodua owners who just own for depreciation value and 'reliability'.
@johnmatthewlow88
@johnmatthewlow88 6 жыл бұрын
Cars are a liability. Assets make you money overtime, most of the time cars do not. One may argue that cars will take you to your workplace, so that you can earn a salary, to pay off your monthly loan, so that you can continue driving the car to work and the cycle goes on. Ultimately, spend within your means. It all depends on the quality of life you want to live and what your priorities/interests are. It's wise to invest in assets early on and reap it's benefits later.
@jackeytam7700
@jackeytam7700 6 жыл бұрын
Johnsk people who disagree need to read a god damn book
@stefanfreestylez
@stefanfreestylez 6 жыл бұрын
I bought my e46 m3 for 14.9k(165k km) and sold for 17k(220k km) 3 years after so ya most are a liability but if u pick it right u can have fun and and not lose a dime
@jackeytam7700
@jackeytam7700 6 жыл бұрын
Stefan Cupovic yeah that is an exception because of its rarity in Malaysia, this applies to normal cars like a vios or city
@henryheng9908
@henryheng9908 6 жыл бұрын
Depreciation only happened in Singapore due to the COE (10years life span).In Malaysia don’t have such issue. If able to afford a bigger car so shouldn’t complain about the maintenance cost. If not , spend within your limits (do a simple calculation before any purchase of a car).
@choisoon3993
@choisoon3993 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Bobby,how long does it takes to fully assemble a car.Be it a Japanese or Continental.Tq.
@CHEA1111
@CHEA1111 5 жыл бұрын
Principle of supply and demand. Remember in 90s, used cars were more expensive than new.
@faizalozo
@faizalozo 6 жыл бұрын
Those guys are in the banking/financing industry. They aim to protect banking industry by further earn money through interest. They dont like business models that affects them.
@roserievandross7914
@roserievandross7914 2 жыл бұрын
Can u review a toyota crown grs204 athlete
@lukewong2743
@lukewong2743 3 жыл бұрын
Lesson learnt Bobby 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@peterwong8499
@peterwong8499 6 жыл бұрын
You can get different types of shoes for different purposes but how many people can get different types of cars for different purposes? Hence come the question of the car lifespan vs depreciation value. If today you get your dream car, does that mean you get to use it forever practically? I don't think so but you can keep it as long as you want. Probably the car will turn valuable as classic model but mayb not within your life time and depending on how well it preserved. So we must chose wisely upon buying a car in terms of our affordability and the practicality. If you plan to get a car for practical multipurpose (eg. like hiking shoes, jogging shoes, sandals, all in one = family car, long distance travel, city driving, day to day go to work then for sure the car wont last forever or it will cost a fortune to maintain because the spare parts will be getting expensive due to supply & demand of an obsolete model. Hence this is the very reason why car values depreciates a lot compare to properties. Basically any tech gadgets including cars will depreciate due to the evolutionary of technology. They just have to keep evolving.
@thebugbud
@thebugbud 6 жыл бұрын
what I don't agree is the high price that the car cost. It doesn't make sense when one have to fork out so much (as 3rd world country) while US can be so much cheaper. That's make a car literally a liability yet a necessity.
@jinatlas8674
@jinatlas8674 6 жыл бұрын
The reason car is high price in Malaysia is because of our own government and their 300% tax on vehicles. Another cause is our countries money has no value to other country making us pay more for something that should cost less.
@xiper86
@xiper86 6 жыл бұрын
in ASEAN countries, Malaysia is still one of the cheapest place to own a car. You can't compare the price with US, our sales volumn just cannot be justified. It is like the same item purchased by Tesco in bulk vs some small kedai runcit from the same supplier will not be the same price.
@thebugbud
@thebugbud 6 жыл бұрын
Agree with you that makes it even more sense to think about the bulk approach. Cars manufactured and distributed in volume. Hence, the industry should try less in customizing too much for local market but make it at regional market where volume is still there. However, that's not the case with the way policy is run and protectionism is heavy. End of day, the consumer that need to folk out more for tax and the car.
@thebugbud
@thebugbud 6 жыл бұрын
further thoughts on this in (rich dad, poor dad term), I think car is more of an expense then an asset of liability. Lets look at an expense point of view, if we choose to spend without any direct or indirect revenue coming out from it, it's cash flow negative. While if we spend with direct or indirect revenue as the result of it, it's cash flow positive. In the context of cash flow positive, it makes plenty of sense to do so as the net net results will make you wealthier In the context of cash flow negative, it's a feel good factor. Now, what is right and what is wrong.. sadly, it's not as simple as that. There will be individual that's wealthy and do not mind cash flow negative. However, for those who are not, then its a matter of personal choice and the individual has to be accountable and responsible for the choices that they made.
@wolverine6562lex
@wolverine6562lex 5 жыл бұрын
A Car is not an asset, you guys get it wrong, depreciation & other shit. A Car is A Cost of Living, is like you Eat, Shit, Sleep, Wear, Play & other Shit. Can't afford it anymore, sell it off... take public transportation.
@BobbyAngmalaysia
@BobbyAngmalaysia 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@tankthepitbull520
@tankthepitbull520 6 жыл бұрын
It’s a mathematical fact that all consumer items depreciate exponentially.
@Neo.555
@Neo.555 6 жыл бұрын
Car is like your baby... Your baby doesn't depreciate;the car like a baby gives you beautiful memories..... Until it's a bit older.. Not all, but some 😂. I mean any car for that matter.
@netnoob77
@netnoob77 5 жыл бұрын
Cars are an expense, full stop. They are not assets, unless in very rare circumstances, where they are collectibles and can appreciate in value. Also, if you like cars and are willing to pay to enjoy driving, sure.. do so without your means. But don't buy it as a status symbol.. that's just silly.
@lansiman
@lansiman 6 жыл бұрын
a 2000 dollar aircon at most can only depreciate 2000 dollar, a car lost the same value in a month, even a major service can cost more than the whole aircon. do you even understand the difference, not everything work in percentage. then there's rules of diminishing returns,a myvi or a vios can essentially do what an A class or C class can do, you wanna splash your money that's your choice, but myvi and vios buyer who think mercedes ain't worth it are mostly correct
@TheBornBoy
@TheBornBoy 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing I learn from this video is that I should get a Timberland shoes.
@myrchobby1
@myrchobby1 6 жыл бұрын
Can’t agree more , even though I am from financial background 👍😂
@gulengz5643
@gulengz5643 6 жыл бұрын
I dunno. Try turning on your car air cond for 12 hours daily without moving and see if it last 5 years. Big house can fit more people and share the cost. Expensive cars can fit the same amount of people. it's actually apple to orange comparison. Of course if you're rich, you can probably live in a big house alone and USE all 6 air conds to cool your furniture and call it luxury la.
@teoandy3493
@teoandy3493 6 жыл бұрын
Can u review should be service our car aircond. Yes or no why?
@mannycalavera2335
@mannycalavera2335 4 жыл бұрын
I get what you are saying, but you are being very unclear about it. Anyway, spend within your means. To me the depreciation of a new car makes me avoid them. I also think private lease is fairly expensive (at least in my country). Buying a 3-4 year old car with max 100k km on it, and buying that without any sort of financing, is the sweet spot for me when it comes to getting a decent affordable car. I think people don't do it because they simply have not saved enough to get the car they want.
@BobbyAngmalaysia
@BobbyAngmalaysia 4 жыл бұрын
what i'm trying to tell people is that the depreciation of a car is a GAIN and not a loss. And of course a car that depreciates less is MORE GAIN and not LESS LOSS. Because of all things that pleasures us, nothing even has a depreciation ratio to fall onto. Your holiday travel package you splurged on, the tv you bought, the sound system you bought .... whereas cars are already a gain even if it's the worst depreciating car. The point is to buy a car you love and want, not buying a car that you calculated to be worthwhile. That car you love will give you pleasure everyday, that car you calculated is no different from an appliance like your microwave ... i of course want my car to depreciate less, but i won't complain they depreciate at all because i am utilising its value every single day. I'm trying to help people see clearer but many got the wrong message thinking i'm telling people if you can't afford it don't complain .... which wasn't the case.
@kelvin9148
@kelvin9148 6 жыл бұрын
I LOL when you brought out that last pair of "shoe"
@wgsvm
@wgsvm 6 жыл бұрын
Buy a 10 year old very low mileage 2008 Honda Odyssey for $8,000, and put the other $30,000 in a long term investment (instead of losing the $30,000 in depreciation on a new minivan over time). Then, when your oldest child turns 22 years old, give them the investment (perhaps the $30,000 would have grown to $90,000). At that time, the car would have long since been sold. Then you will really understand how dangerous car depreciation is to your financial health.
@bgan4826
@bgan4826 6 жыл бұрын
It's not you or me who decides whether cars have second hand value, it is the market which says you can sell your used car for a certain sum of money and you would be foolish to insist otherwise. If you really think that cars have no second hand value give your car to me when you want to upgrade. Put your money where your mouth is Bobby. You should also appreciate that scaling from shoes and air-conditioners to cars doesn't work very well. However if you insist that something worth RM100 can be treated the same way as something worth RM100,000 it is not for me to enlighten you.
@eeeyzal
@eeeyzal 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Bobby u should change title to 'Car Depreciation and Bullshit Adidas Shoes'
@frankyhee
@frankyhee 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby, bila will test drive the new Subaru XV?
@gokusupersaiya8067
@gokusupersaiya8067 2 жыл бұрын
thats why im buy grab no need monthly commitment
@kkhalifah1019
@kkhalifah1019 6 жыл бұрын
What is this rant about, seriously? He doesn''t like the notion that cars depreciate in value? I watched until that part where he starts equating cars to freakin fridges... then I gave up... Bobby, if you hutang 5 years for your fridge then I really feel sorry for you lah...
@derekow5638
@derekow5638 6 жыл бұрын
K Khalifah u weren't listening carefully. Yes, if u talk in layman terms then yes, what bobby says is utterly bullshit. But u gotta view it from a petrolhead's POV. Then, u will see his point. His point is that car people don't give a fuck on resale value or depreciation because they just enjoy their cars as they are. About the aircond part, u name the major features of an aircond vs the major features of a modern day car. And then, rewind 20 years ago of the same comparison with the money u pay. Which has improved and advanced more for the money paid?
@kkhalifah1019
@kkhalifah1019 6 жыл бұрын
That's the rich man's argument vs the poor man's argument. Sure, a petrolhead will always take the rich man's argument in finding any excuse to justify paying any price for the car he loves.... that is until some financial reality forces him to the poor man's world. Naahh... he isn't talking about some aircond. He's saying people don't factor in depreciation when buying fridges, so why can't they do the same when buying cars. At this point, I switched off.... dude seriously, RM2,000 fridges = RM100,000 cars? What, did he get a 5-year loan to buy his fridge?
@derekow5638
@derekow5638 6 жыл бұрын
K Khalifah read my comment again. This time more carefully... a petrolhead doesn't necessarily have to get a performance car to enjoy it. I currently enjoy my Honda City even though it's not a muscle monster. He never said u had to buy a BMW or a Lamborghini to enjoy cars.
@derekow5638
@derekow5638 6 жыл бұрын
K Khalifah about the fridge part, the moment u switched is also the reason why u didn't get his point. Think about it this way, an aircond ever since it was first invented up to this day has only one function and that is to make a room cooler in hot climates. While a car, it evolved from the substitute of horses to a practical machine that not only takes u places but also helps u enjoy the nature, and what more, cars have evolved from having just moving parts and an engine to having airconds, LED headlights, paddle shifters, infotainment devices, sunroofs and blah blah blah. And for the money u are paying, (assuming that the prices between generations stay the same), which has been able to give u more things to play with for the money u paid?
@kkhalifah1019
@kkhalifah1019 6 жыл бұрын
And read my comment again carefully. Did I even say anything about exotic sportscars? Of course if you're a petrolhead you'll take the rich man's argument and justify any excuse to buy whatever car you love, regardless of depreciation. That is until something happens and you find yourself struggling to pay your car loan while you watch helplessly while your used car's value sink faster than you're able to reduce your outstanding loan. Probably that's why you went with a Honda, not a Renault or Citroen. My point is, both sides of the argument are valid. A petrolhead may say HECK I'LL PAY ANY MONEY FOR A CAR EVEN IF IT HAS NOTORIOUSLY BAD RESALE VALUE, but you can't deny there are situations when it will bite him in the arse. Just because you're a petrolhead, it doesn't mean you can look down on those who worry about money and depreciation..
@benjaminmullan8853
@benjaminmullan8853 6 жыл бұрын
Haha.. great explanation there bobby. I always like ur way of thoughts about owning a car.
@soneric913
@soneric913 6 жыл бұрын
That not so subtle jab at the Veloster :D You deserve a Subscribe and Like... Thank you for the honest and personal pov review
@tandavi
@tandavi 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby. Well said.. I fully agreed with you..
@jiajingee9360
@jiajingee9360 6 жыл бұрын
IF you can't afford the maintanence, or might go bust paying for your car, then take public transport.
@BobbyAngmalaysia
@BobbyAngmalaysia 6 жыл бұрын
+JiaJing Ee many people understand that when you pay for public transport, you are paying for mobility. Yet when they use their cars for mobility, they complained about depreciation, as if they're gonna get anything back for the money they spent on public transportation. Thanks for putting in this crucial perspective.
@jdheng
@jdheng 6 жыл бұрын
Most car manufacturer try not to expose their car true maintenance cost coz that is where they want to poke out more money from u..
@maxkamarov514
@maxkamarov514 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Bobby. I know this comment will get drowned. Leasing a car is a new concept for Malaysians. Could you further elaborate on pros and cons of such service, specifically in our country. If a video will get you in hot water, I don't mind an article. Thanks.
@daneshdavid1822
@daneshdavid1822 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby....Can U review Nissan GTR 2017 Model Plzz....
@purpleman4633
@purpleman4633 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Kiyosaki's Rich dad poor dad... Guess what's a liability? XD
@jackeytam7700
@jackeytam7700 6 жыл бұрын
jamie lannister exactly, Malaysian people have over inflated egos. They buy cars with 10% downpayment and give 80% of their salary to their car.
@kinluke
@kinluke 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackeytam7700 lol as long as you manage well, there isnt much of a problem. Look at the broader picture
@brianwong5814
@brianwong5814 6 жыл бұрын
XD 6.28-->smelly.....wipes nose. Why no one questions if RV is not factored in when buy car, how will our local market be? Will we have V6 camry/accord? Will we see peugeot 308 GTi here? Will we see more Ds5 on the road?
@mightyduckization
@mightyduckization 6 жыл бұрын
hahaaha... when u take out the wooden sandal at the end... OMG .. epic... wear them to MidValley... nice...
@jodyseow160
@jodyseow160 6 жыл бұрын
Best shoe with no maintenance is "Adidas Kampung" actually 😊
@AndrewKNI
@AndrewKNI 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite footwear channel lol :-) Keep up the good work Bobby :-)
@foonghh8878
@foonghh8878 6 жыл бұрын
Car is either a mode of transportation or a tool to happiness. Therefore, this arguement of whether a car depreciates or not does not mean anything because everyone has different purpose when buying anything. Say person A is a car guy so he bought a nice car that he can afford. Person B is not a car guy therefore he decided to just get a car for moving from point to point. Their cars still depreciate in value regardless of whether which car they bought. At the end, it's you that decide whether it is worth it or not. You don't go tell people whether it is worth it because it's like I can tell you that buying toto everyday with RM100 is worth it because you might strike the lottery one day.
@zxn-hn4tv
@zxn-hn4tv 6 жыл бұрын
just buy a car and take good care of it, if you lease the monthly lease will eventually catch up to the cost of owning(buying) a car over a period of time. most importantly the satisfaction of ownership and belonging which you could only experience it by owning 1
@PopsLaw
@PopsLaw 3 жыл бұрын
Just buy a used one with low milage. A bit cheaper and some dealership have warranties.
@jonathanchoi2585
@jonathanchoi2585 6 жыл бұрын
I get his rant, but it don't see the point. Since when do anyone consider the car an asset, unless you're into vintage cars. Even then the premise is tenuous.
@amreshravindran2103
@amreshravindran2103 6 жыл бұрын
Well said Bobby 👌🏻🙏🏼 Great video to watch
@averagelife5523
@averagelife5523 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha I like the way u talk bobby... strait forward
@docavvai
@docavvai 6 жыл бұрын
Buy the the car you like and enjoy. Dont worry about the expenses of service and resale value. Enjoy while u can and of course of you can afford it. Money is not yours until u spend it. No point of driving something you hate everyday in hope to get a good resale value. Not worth it. U only live once.
@zafirbleach5059
@zafirbleach5059 6 жыл бұрын
Good explanation, haha nowdays people like to buy car that have high resale value and avoid some brands
@ahmadfk3315
@ahmadfk3315 3 жыл бұрын
To sum up, they complained because they cant afford it. Imagine, earning 4k a month, bought a 25k 2006 bmw e60, and in 3 months, they spend 5k to repair the car. Thus the complain. Not just bmw, even proton got the same kind of people complaining.
@tongyinwang215
@tongyinwang215 5 жыл бұрын
I think as long as u happy with ur lifestyle with a nice car and u able to afford it nothing is wrong. Not everyone likes to keep all savings to investment and properties then drive a low spec Axia. U may die in an accident because of low protection and all ur money go to ur wife and kids. Life is short friends.
@hasyimuddin158
@hasyimuddin158 Жыл бұрын
If have money your perspective on cars would be positive if not then the other way round. Abit like comparing apples and oranges.
@jconrad8585
@jconrad8585 6 жыл бұрын
I love you Bobby and hate those 'camry driving, muh depreciation cibais' but this rant was terribly illogical.
@altezzar909
@altezzar909 4 жыл бұрын
If not car person then buy myvi or vios. Slow depreciation. But if u love cars then can buy new Corolla, new Camry, W205 etc. If you dont want depreciation then take public transport. You cant run away from depreciation. Since depreciation is normal then buy something solid and keep for 10 years. Depreciation is a factor if you change car every 3 years. Also maintainance is part and parcel of car ownership. Cant run away unless u take public transport. Btw i am in finance line but own 11 year old Toyota Altezza 6MT, 8 year old Honda Jazz & 5 year old Merc W204. All been solid car with easy maintainance. Depreciation not a factor me as I love using them as intended....😁
@BobbyAngmalaysia
@BobbyAngmalaysia 4 жыл бұрын
Beng listened to my advice and got the MX5 instead of a City. If she had gotten the City for RM80k back in 2017, it will be worth RM45k now. The MX5? It has gone up from RM80k to RM110k now. So whether you are a car person or not, you should listen to Bobby. hhahahaahaha
@klng1979
@klng1979 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Bobby I like the last pair of shoes 😂 well said
@mohamedalif1333
@mohamedalif1333 5 жыл бұрын
Cars are like wives, they dont depreciate, they age.. And if you got it right, they age beautifully. Hence i don't mind spending for my cars as they are all my wives 🤗
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