CAR NINJA Auto Engineers must Really Dislike Mechanics.

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Car Ninja

Car Ninja

9 ай бұрын

Jonny experiences another round of frustration with automotive engineers when he replaces a Mercedes-Benz water pump. They clearly have no love for mechanics.
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@zollotech
@zollotech 9 ай бұрын
All automotive engineers should have to perform basic maintenance on the car, change a water pump, alternator and some gaskets to every car they engineer before it is allowed out the door. Then when done a similar mechanic needs to do the same and collaborate. lol
@OlivierCaron
@OlivierCaron 9 ай бұрын
Why? The manufacturer must build these things to support their dealers' profits by making simple jobs a 2-3 hour job. They're in for the money, not to please the independent shop!
@luigig6256
@luigig6256 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps there should be a maintenance rating for all new cars?
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 9 ай бұрын
I think the same thing. If you made it easier, think how much money to corporations would save in warranty labor. 🤷‍♂️
@nebbybereal8943
@nebbybereal8943 8 ай бұрын
It would also cost more for them to engineer a car and make it so that they can work on it just to reengineer it and make it again. They pretty much make it work and miss some simpler design ideas. Plus Germans love innovating and creating new, so they aren’t really building and refining existing platforms for very long.
@AJB1
@AJB1 8 ай бұрын
Completely agree. I've always thought (or at least, since changing the cabin filter in my car back in 2006) that engineers should be forced to spend maybe 1 day a month servicing things they've designed. I can tell you that whoever designed that cabin filter and the access to it would not be making that mistake again if they had to change one!
@stuffandjunkandthings364
@stuffandjunkandthings364 9 ай бұрын
As a retired mechanic, I have it on good authority, that at some point in the late 1970's an automotive engineer caught a mechanic sleeping with his wife, and everything he designed from that point on was revenge. It's a joke lol
@kamilianos
@kamilianos 9 ай бұрын
that's a good joke :)
@wernerdanler2742
@wernerdanler2742 9 ай бұрын
You must have gotten the date wrong. They made their war equipment so complicated during WWII that they could not repair any of it in the field. If anything broke, they had to abandon it. No way to get it to the factory for repair. They lost a lot of tanks and artillery pieces to that. 😮
@kevinbaird7277
@kevinbaird7277 9 ай бұрын
@@wernerdanler2742 I was just watching a documentary regarding that very subject, aircraft in the pacific theater had so many hours of flying before being sent for rebuilding at the factory, what a job, then fly out replacements, War, it's tough.
@dazaspc
@dazaspc 9 ай бұрын
The actual problem is IMHO ever since CAD drawing and more importantly Modeling cars have been designed at a desk. When it first started out this wasn't to much of an Issue as these people had hands on experience and had an idea. Today a couple of generations removed stuff gets positioned and shaped in a computer where no hands have to be actually placed on parts. The engineer gets a pat on the back for reducing the space needed and reducing its weight and forever cursing everybody else who actually needs to access this equipment without total dissambley. Add to this the additional problem of "Lifetime Parts" and the very frequent situation of the mechanical guy being handed a space by the Stylist and being forced to make it work. Higher end the car the more frequently it happens as they will spend the money on getting the most stylish shape. It's like all beautiful things there is always a down side.
@mrblonde2013
@mrblonde2013 9 ай бұрын
But, is it really a joke😞😞?
@jeffie8696
@jeffie8696 9 ай бұрын
I have heard that the first step to Porsche repairs is "remove engine"
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 9 ай бұрын
My father and grandfather were engineers at Opel for their entire careers and lived by the mantra of all German engineers "WHY MAKE IT SIMPLE WHEN WE CAN MAKE IT DIFFICULT "!
@aciddiver1978
@aciddiver1978 9 ай бұрын
Opel has been simple at least up until 2017, so that statement doesnt make sense.
@KeVonBouVie
@KeVonBouVie 9 ай бұрын
@@aciddiver1978lmaooo
@hagestad
@hagestad 9 ай бұрын
@@aciddiver1978 That's because Opel for decades is not a German company.
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 9 ай бұрын
@hagestad Opel was a wholly owned subsidiary of GM for decades but it designed engineered and manufactured its products for European consumers.
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 9 ай бұрын
@aciddiver1978 Opel has completed with VW and has matched their features and technology for decades. The Corsa Astra or Insignia are no less designed or engineered than the Polo Golf or Passat.
@charlesdalton985
@charlesdalton985 9 ай бұрын
My dad and I used to work on cars together. My dad, who was an engineer, had an expression when we’d encounter things like this, “I’d love to get the part red hot and lay it in the lap of the ‘engineer’ who signed off on this design”.
@nosaint01
@nosaint01 9 ай бұрын
Jonny, love the extra effort you have to go through to make videos.. We really appreciate the hard work mechanics have to deal with.
@herrbrahms
@herrbrahms 9 ай бұрын
A transverse engine Mercedes is the stuff of nightmares. At least with the 911 there was a reasonable excuse as to why the spark plugs were where they were.
@glenmeyer5079
@glenmeyer5079 9 ай бұрын
I'm and engineer and I agree, some of the crap in these cars is simply amazing. I looked in an Audi engine compartment and said, NO WAY, what a mess. Your skills are amazing. Great videos, keep up the great work.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 9 ай бұрын
They are of course engineered to meet a budget, and be as easy as possible to throw together on an assembly line, with little thought as to how to maintain the vehicle after the warranty expires. Mercedes in particular don't care about repairs as they see their vehicles as disposable and would rather sell you a new one than make it easy to repair an old one.
@TougeSolo
@TougeSolo 9 ай бұрын
When it comes to German, VW/Audi is honestly one of the better options. The special tools is frustrating but buy once cry once I guess. Mercedes engineers like to keep with the Lewis Hamilton F1 tradition. You know, when it's a easy job it's "Good job, such what a team effort!" But when it's something complicated like this, or just something that has 1 extra step than you think it should it's "unexceptable, I can't believe you did this to me." As far as BMW goes, well they just like to add things, and multiple pieces to things that could be simplified. German cars - when they work, they are amazing. But when breaks, you just wish you were driving a 90's Honda or Toyota.
@MERKAMGCLK
@MERKAMGCLK 9 ай бұрын
Every car is now designed for ease of assembly. Not service and repair.
@luigig6256
@luigig6256 9 ай бұрын
That’s the best explanation.
@gsprings43
@gsprings43 9 ай бұрын
i do believe they design these things to make dealership shops money
@JohnDoe-ig1yw
@JohnDoe-ig1yw 9 ай бұрын
You gotta have lots of patience and control as a mechanic to let yourself be filmed working on cars especially European cars. I could never do that in 13 years of being a mechanic.
@douglasburnside
@douglasburnside 9 ай бұрын
I remember the days of my very early (1966) 911. Spark plugs? Just put a jack under the engine, remove two motor mount bolts, and lower the engine being careful not to lower it so much that you bent the shifter rod. 10 minute job. I could pull the engine and transmission completely out of the car by taking out the two motor mount bolts, the two transmission mount bolts, disconnecting the 10mm bolt on the shifter, two electrical connections and one fuel line. Then the two heater hoses, and the big hose connecting the dry sump oil tank to the engine. 20 minutes max. Needed a ratchet and two sockets, a 10mm wrench, a screwdriver, pliers (for the fuel line clamp) and a crescent wrench for the big (22mm?) dry sump hose. When I see what's involved in taking the engine out of one of these new water cooled Porsches... makes me glad I sold my last Porsche 15 years ago.
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 9 ай бұрын
Japanese engineers make complicated thing simple. German engineers make simple things complicated.
@vintagehaynesflute
@vintagehaynesflute 9 ай бұрын
The engine was actually a design collaboration between Nissan and Renault and built by Daimler
@dashbel506
@dashbel506 9 ай бұрын
Exactly
@hokie9910
@hokie9910 9 ай бұрын
Mercedes and BMW, wow, such a departure from the cars they built back in the day. Most unfortunate.
@sdlausen1
@sdlausen1 9 ай бұрын
It's intentional so when it breaks, you either pay thousands to repair it or say F it and buy the new model.
@Incountry
@Incountry 9 ай бұрын
@@vintagehaynesflute It’s PSA built, they call it the collaboration / alliance that includes Mercedes & Mitsubishi, but it’s all PSA just like the FORD/Citroen (PSA) in the FORD range and V6 in the Range Rovers. Mercedes don’t do FWD like BMW, these are third party purchased.
@davidblalock9945
@davidblalock9945 9 ай бұрын
Here are two laws that I think need to be passed. 1. An independent 3rd party must determine what the billable hours are for a warranty service are. And the auto makers are required to use a minimum of three separate independent companies to determine this, whom also provide technicians with service and repair guides, and collect actual repair time reports to better refine these guides. This keeps technicians from getting screwerd on warranty work. 2. These companies also get to torture test designers, by reviewing preproduction models and identifying areas that will become service and repair problems for technicians, and then require the actual designers of those components to preform the service in vehicle. If they designers fail to complete the assigned tasks in the assigned time period, they have to redesign the area so that it is serviceable. This is to prevent cars like the PT Cruiser from entering production.
@Dragineez774
@Dragineez774 9 ай бұрын
I'm so glad it's not just me - that a professional looks at this and wonders "Why would someone design it this way? Are they trying to make service almost impossible on purpose?"
@rodr4894
@rodr4894 9 ай бұрын
Work instructions for a 911 turbo show to remove the rear bumper and intercoolers. Having done this it seems like a lot of work but it's actually quite easy and then you will have a straight shot to the coils/plugs. Also the struggle is real on the mercedes wsterpump. There is a tool for the belt removal so you don't have to remove the engine mount or anything, also I find it helps a lot to evacuate the AC and remove that one line in the way.
@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkn3249
@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkn3249 9 ай бұрын
Sometimes doing it by the book is best and other times we find an amazing time saving workaround. Then there are the times the workaround ends up being more work
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 9 ай бұрын
@@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkn3249 true story: on my Giulia, to replace the water return OR from the turbocharger cooling the manual claimed I had to disassemble half of the engine just to remove the heat protection over the turbo. Reality is that once you unbolt it you can move it enough to do all the job in 30 mins...
@obsoleteprofessor2034
@obsoleteprofessor2034 9 ай бұрын
I used to work on airplanes... Calluses on my pinkies, mirrors and all 1/4" drive sockets...sometimes some 3/8" stuff for the really big bolts.
@RobbieHerrera
@RobbieHerrera 9 ай бұрын
Wow, Mercedes used to make it easy for people to do routine maintenance. I had a 2002 CL500 and it was a pleasure to maintain, I’m even able to flush the ABC suspension and power steering because everything is easy to reach. Serpentine belt, tensioner, water pump are all easy to access. It was a very reliable car and a pleasure to drive but maybe because I’m the only one that drove it and I have a garage.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 9 ай бұрын
Now days it's all about making it as cheap as possible, and as easy as possible for assembly on the production line. Mercedes couldn't care less once the car is 9 years old how difficult it is to repair, because as far as they are concerned it should be on the scrap heap by then and you should have bought or leased the new model.
@chrxx4327
@chrxx4327 9 ай бұрын
dude just watching jonny change the spark plugs had me raging. That man has way more patience than I do.
@asadzeethree2726
@asadzeethree2726 9 ай бұрын
Gotta love Brother Johnny! Humble/simple! Works more, and doesn't do too much talking! That's the difference between a real technician and a KZbinr! 👍💯🌟💫
@rwd323
@rwd323 9 ай бұрын
“BMW doesn’t do stupid stuff like this” apart from running oil through an alternator bracket 😂😂
@jeffba4609
@jeffba4609 9 ай бұрын
Ninja, the spark plugs on a 996tt are easy to change when you remove the bumper cover and the inner coolers. Removing those takes about 30 minutes or less and then the spark plugs are easy to access. I first attempted to do this job on my 996tt they way you just did and it seemed impossible. I’m very impressed you got it done that way 😂
@andreyd8116
@andreyd8116 9 ай бұрын
​@@salvationbygracethroughfaithmay be on a Toyota Corolla, but not necessarily on a performance sports car which is 911 Carrera 4S
@MrFlyNikolai
@MrFlyNikolai 9 ай бұрын
@@andreyd8116I own a BMW 750Li with the N63 engine, and you can change the coils…and spark plugs with your eyes closed. Literally a 20 minute job
@andreyd8116
@andreyd8116 9 ай бұрын
@@MrFlyNikolai 750Li is not a sports car.
@TougeSolo
@TougeSolo 9 ай бұрын
@@MrFlyNikolai You're talking about a traditional RWD inline configuration. I'm not sure if you noticed, but the Porsche, uses a flat engine in the rear.... Still easier than a modern Subaru.
@MrFlyNikolai
@MrFlyNikolai 9 ай бұрын
@@andreyd8116 it’s faster than a lot of cars
@rwinstanley8668
@rwinstanley8668 9 ай бұрын
My dads favorite saying, “If I ever catch the SOB that designed this…” and he was an engineer…
@Engineering_Improvisation
@Engineering_Improvisation 9 ай бұрын
Most of the engineers I know also work on their own cars so we don't want it this way, either. However, between management, accountants, designers/marketing, and regulatory compliance get theirs, we have little left to work with. And, some cars will have more than a dozen different engine/transmission combinations that have to fit in the same engine bay.
@Veikra
@Veikra 9 ай бұрын
Marketings geniuses: CRAM EVERYTHING TOGETHER SUPER TIGHT, so we can use it in future chassis we havent thought of yet
@A565a
@A565a 9 ай бұрын
There is a specialty tool for the belt tensioner that you use from the bottom of the car to remove the belt.
@realcarninja
@realcarninja 9 ай бұрын
Figures. Good to know
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef 9 ай бұрын
The fact you need a specialty tool to remove a common maintenance item like a water pump IS the problem.
@mrnicktoyou
@mrnicktoyou 9 ай бұрын
You always need a specialty tool for everything for German cars.
@kamilianos
@kamilianos 9 ай бұрын
he did not have time to research it (same day job) but good tip for the future for sure
@brainndamage
@brainndamage 9 ай бұрын
I did the belt on a M270 with just a piece of thick fence wire, bent to push into the tensioner hole. Pull down on the belt with one hand to fully retract the tensioner, push the wire in with your other hand. Make sure you disconnected the battery, the likelihood of the engine turning over is small, but better be safe than sorry
@vintagehaynesflute
@vintagehaynesflute 9 ай бұрын
It was designed by Renault/Nissan but built by Mercedes Benz and used in all Mercedes models except the S class and some infinity cars and SUVs as well
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 9 ай бұрын
The motor mount thing is pretty common on transversal engine. Even on my mother's Fiat Panda, to access to the timing belt tensioner (and to replace it) you need to do the same. Not to for the accessory belt I think I remember tho. Think there are cars (see the amazing Delta Integrale, but also others where the engine is crammed against the frame) that require engine out for that job...
@sohodon
@sohodon 9 ай бұрын
Maybe for Euro cars but not japanese
@JulianKapa
@JulianKapa 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, it's not that unusual (for a euro car at least, that has bulky engine mounts). Not sure why he didn't mention why he couldn't access it from underneath the car.
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 9 ай бұрын
@@JulianKapa because he didn't know that there's a dedicated tool for that :) He discovered down in the comments :)
@JulianKapa
@JulianKapa 9 ай бұрын
@@AlessandroGenTLe What dedicated tool? Is there something else hindering access from below?
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 9 ай бұрын
@@JulianKapa no idea, but more than one commented about it in the comments below.
@johnjerrehian4642
@johnjerrehian4642 9 ай бұрын
I had to laugh when you said, "I stopped filming because I was cussing so much". Sounds like me on many of my jobs! I loved that Porsche Turbo though...
@jeffflewelling1703
@jeffflewelling1703 2 ай бұрын
Jonny should invite an automotive design engineer to come and observe one of these difficult jobs and then get his reaction for the video.
@fred420
@fred420 9 ай бұрын
yay, more car ninja! so happy you're back!
@kerrylewis2581
@kerrylewis2581 9 ай бұрын
Love the outro. I hope you can continue throwing in some humor after a long day of wrenching.
@lopezautotechtips568
@lopezautotechtips568 9 ай бұрын
What I do when removing belt. Pull the belt by hand from The bottom of the car Then insert a Allen wrench. (Or pry it )Alllen must be The angle ones the smaller angle to the tensioner hole use like size 6 mm angle Allen wrench. And use a long needle nose pliers to insert the angle Allen wrench into the tensioner hole I recorded one video. I’m post it. I usually don’t post aloot. But this one I think it’s a must saves u aloot of time
@DucNguyen-bd5ir
@DucNguyen-bd5ir 9 ай бұрын
I sometime believe that the Engineers are told by the manufacture/car companies to make it difficult to get to parts requiring replacement so they can upcharge the maintenance cost. You know there is no reasonable reason for an engine out to replace the belts.
@janhuybs2013
@janhuybs2013 9 ай бұрын
To be honest … I did one recently and it wasn’t that hard. I just pulled on the belt and then locked the tensioner from underneath. I didn’t remove the motor mount but I did remove the alternator and loosened up the ac pump which allowed me to easily remove the waterpump. Which was all in the book.
@the_first_resort940
@the_first_resort940 9 ай бұрын
Yea I do these in a couple hours easy
@AlanL007
@AlanL007 9 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your videos, you are a talented mechanic.
@violinmiata
@violinmiata 9 ай бұрын
Just spent the morning installing a new dishwasher in the kitchen. Old one out in 5 minutes. New one in 4 hours. Talk about over engineered and poorly made/ 10 lbs of ish in a five pound bag. Pay extra for a stainless tub and the water feed fitting is made out of cheese. It’s fancy and works great, but damn!
@E85_STI
@E85_STI 9 ай бұрын
I’ve done that many times like a first time job on my cars but after you do it then you just add more knowledge to your internal database for repairs. I know I cus a lot while working on my own car and it’s super frustrating but then after you feel like dang I actually fixed it.
@dirtleg13
@dirtleg13 9 ай бұрын
I lived across the street from a great guy in the early 90's who had numerous el Camino's that he worked on regularly. He told me numerous times if he met one of the engineers that designed them he was going to beat their a**.😅
@cageordie
@cageordie 9 ай бұрын
I had a 2003 Passat v6 for 207,000 miles. I changed the water pump twice. I got faster the second time, but it was still a whole weekend. The dealership wanted to charge me 12 hours. I expect a competent mechanic would have done it a lot faster.
@scott9676
@scott9676 9 ай бұрын
Makes me appreciate my 25 year old small block chevy.
@davidsabin4946
@davidsabin4946 9 ай бұрын
newer chevys do the same thing with the serpentine belt
@canadianintheukbrian
@canadianintheukbrian 9 ай бұрын
I use to work in Auto-glass repair I remember we had 1987 Ford Taurus what a sob to change the windshield my manager said I love to have 5 minutes in room with those engineers who design that beeping car lol, some auto engineers forget a car will need repairs or smoking some stuff in the design room
@peiguy1982
@peiguy1982 9 ай бұрын
A man who works only on German cars. Now there is job security if I ever seen it. Talking engineering, removed a knuckle assembly on an 08 Corolla recently. What a dream to work on and cheap parts. Would have been nice if the wheel bearing did not require a press, but just bought the whole knuckle assembly. You can tell it was high quality for an economy car, and I drive Dodges. No wonder people love that generation of Corolla, although it is a shitbox lol.
@jakeymas
@jakeymas 9 ай бұрын
Always good when a new video is posted!!
@pfsantos007
@pfsantos007 9 ай бұрын
Servicing ease is at the bottom of the list of priorities of Designers and Engineers. Whether we like it or not. But we decide what to buy. So some research is recommended. I like to do most repairs. Bought a W212 3.5 NA V6 M276.
@DeLaLosPedros
@DeLaLosPedros 9 ай бұрын
There are few men who truly help customers in a hurry and do a great job at it also. Engineers should have a baseline for a car by now so maintaining them should be easy. But no,why bother cos they don't care about environment so people are forced to buy a new car again... whatta waste🤬🤬🤬 Thankfully there is hope for a car ninja in every city by 2030 🤣🤣🤣 Keep up the good work 👍🔥🔥
@brainndamage
@brainndamage 9 ай бұрын
I did the exact same water pump on a 2014 B180 M270. You don't need to take the engine mount or the cat off. To take the belt off, raise the car (or go under it if you have a pit), have a bent piece of thick fence wire ready to push into the tensioner. Pull down with one hand on the belt until you retract the tensioner fully, then stick the pin in, then release the belt. You can then take the belt off and you didn't need either the special tensioner tool or take the motor mount off. Then to replace the water pump you take off the cat heat shields, turbo support arm, turbo water and oil feed and return lines, charge pipe between turbo and intercooler. Then loosen the stainless steel water pipe from the pump to the thermostat by taking out all the bolts for it, then loosen the small water lines that go from the water pump over the timing cover to the oil cooler. Then you can loosen the water pump and take it out from the top (tight fit). Before reassembling, clean out all the o-ring seating surfaces and lubricate with silicon grease. Replace the turbo oil and coolant pipe orings because they'll definitely be bad. To clean out the turbo o-ring hole push a piece of paper towel in so no dust falls into the turbo or it will ruin it. A small wire wheel on a dremel will grind off the rust. Then reassemble. It took me a whole day to do it, being that I'm not a professional mechanic and it was my first time doing this particular job. It is a NIGHTMARE, and the design of the plunger on the pump that corroded and destroyed its seal is so bad it will surely happen AGAIN in the same time, because the new pumps don't fix the design issue with it.
@jhonditch4269
@jhonditch4269 9 ай бұрын
A I / CAD design are not human and won't do any wrenching only patches and reprograming.
@panoscharos983
@panoscharos983 9 ай бұрын
Regards from Athens Greece... congratulations...
@user-oy8zg4mv8m
@user-oy8zg4mv8m 9 ай бұрын
If MB is committed to building their cars in a fashion that makes repair near impossible, then they should consider building better quality vehicles that don’t break.
@dantheman9395
@dantheman9395 9 ай бұрын
Johnny is a man of the people✌😎👍
@STFUMAN
@STFUMAN 9 ай бұрын
Some of it is lack of afterthought, bust most importantly, marketing people took over in 80s-90s and they basically dictated to make everything more diffficult to maintain and the materials flimsier to sell more spare parts.
@briggsquantum
@briggsquantum 9 ай бұрын
When I have to deal with a particularly tough and stupid bit of German car engineering I claim it's revenge for various losses. Like the Battle of the Bulge, sinking the Bismarck, Battle of Britain, the Tirpitz, North Africa, etc. I haven't run out of them yet, but expect to soon. I don't work on French cars, but Mers el Kibir is ready.
@tomast9034
@tomast9034 9 ай бұрын
at 10:23 ....there is no time to think ......engineers has to poop out drawings for the production...... automotive bussines is a nut case on itself. always late , never works, endless recalls, and hardly making any leftover money.......
@levainterk8918
@levainterk8918 9 ай бұрын
100k subs , here we come
@AJGreen-cn8kk
@AJGreen-cn8kk 9 ай бұрын
I had to get my a/c done on my 30 year old Camaro this summer. When I picked it up the mechanic said "now I remember why I hate working on LT1's". And I said "now you know why I wanted to pay you to do it".
@nikolasb2933
@nikolasb2933 9 ай бұрын
This is done on purpose to maximise time (service costs) to replace basic consumables. If you can afford to buy a MB/ BMW/ Audi/ Porsche make sure you can afford to run it.
@reidster87
@reidster87 9 ай бұрын
There are a few CLA 250s on the road in my area. Every one I've seen so far has an AMG rear license plate frame, a fake AMG decal on the boot lid, or both! I laugh because it's not an AMG; it's an expensive, hard-to-maintain, fast-depreciating alternative to a Honda Accord!
@hadtopicausername
@hadtopicausername 9 ай бұрын
Legend has it that the first time a Porsche mechanic took a look at the engine bay of one of the very first 356 Carreras, he just slammed the lid shut again. Who can change eight spark plugs they can't even see, let alone get at?
@zactormak
@zactormak 9 ай бұрын
i like how you actually work on cars the same day people drop them off lmfao my mechanic takes weeks to even look at my car looks like i need to find a new one
@mjjr1000
@mjjr1000 9 ай бұрын
9:11 we all swear at some point- normally when you lose the skin off a knuckle or two, but engineers do test the patience.
@alb12345672
@alb12345672 9 ай бұрын
Every ford explorer/Edge/Taurus made in the 2010s has a similar setup.
@user-sf7kl9uh7k
@user-sf7kl9uh7k 9 ай бұрын
Cost reduction, weight reduction, lowering of centre of gravity, pedestrian safety and emission abeitment equipment.
@kamilianos
@kamilianos 9 ай бұрын
Watching these videos and thinking that the modern cars are designed to make the mechanic cry. I've just realized that before I decided to spend some a bit more money on a decent car, my choice was not based on how reliable it was, but how easy it was to fix !
@lgunderso2117
@lgunderso2117 9 ай бұрын
2006 Avalon?
@eddiev6013
@eddiev6013 9 ай бұрын
The problem is drivetrain reusability to cut costs. Same engine goes in both FWD and rwd architecture cars. In RWD applications there wouldn't be an engine mount to remove belt and wp. It's not the engineers it's the bean counters trying to sell all sorts of models for the cheapest cost possible. You end up with this nightmare.
@colinbatchford8007
@colinbatchford8007 9 ай бұрын
I'am no mechanic but will tackle the basics but needing a lift to change the plugs is insane.
@rdj0981
@rdj0981 9 ай бұрын
In reference to the dumbest design choices, Carninja hasn't seen those Chryslers with the battery located in the wheel well 😢
@realcarninja
@realcarninja 9 ай бұрын
Same with Lamborghini.
@kc360awareness
@kc360awareness 9 ай бұрын
@@realcarninjafiat engineering.
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 9 ай бұрын
@@kc360awareness nope, these are projects before FCA. New ones put it in the trunk and it's called "weight distribution". Bentley have the same, Sport Mercedes have the same, my Giulia have the same. In the back of the car. And there no problem at all to remove the battery (did it)
@gpaje
@gpaje 9 ай бұрын
Doesn't come close to having a $5 gasket that requires 10 hours of labor to get to often found in modern German cars.
@notman05
@notman05 9 ай бұрын
This is what happens when engineers don't communicate. The guy making the compartment just knows the size of the engine and just provides the space for it. Then an engineer makes a mount that allows the engine to sit in that space. No one looks at the engine components
@ravencorvus67
@ravencorvus67 9 ай бұрын
German engineers purgatory is working on the cars they design! 😈👹
@repairvehicle
@repairvehicle 9 ай бұрын
People want complicated things otherwise they would have chosen none complicated
@brianmckerrow817
@brianmckerrow817 9 ай бұрын
It's good to know your able to use expletives when the task requires you to retain sanity. Lol
@someone28
@someone28 9 ай бұрын
There are thousands of people involved in developing a model of a car. The revisions engineers make for ease of maintenance sometimes do not make it into the final product as they run out of budget $$$ or its simply too late in the development process as tooling has already been completed. As my dad would put it be thankful for auto engineers as they keep mechanics in business.
@mrvolvomercedes
@mrvolvomercedes 9 ай бұрын
Because its a Renault not a Mercedes-Benz 😅
@vintagehaynesflute
@vintagehaynesflute 9 ай бұрын
Renault/Nissan
@skillz1855
@skillz1855 9 ай бұрын
Snap on costs too much to throw around 😂
@mosestaukobong5937
@mosestaukobong5937 9 ай бұрын
Great content as always. Just a quick questions do clients negotiate on the labour rates since you show how to fix their cars and how long does it takes to do the job. Referencing from the Porsche cayenne with thermostat repair, cause the repair instructions stated that you need remove the whole front end of the car but you found the quicker way of doing it reducing the amount of time to do the job.
@THBMW
@THBMW 9 ай бұрын
I sure hope not
@onemoredeadman
@onemoredeadman 9 ай бұрын
The three pointed suppository strikes again
@mds2465
@mds2465 Ай бұрын
I liked the older E63 design so much better than this one where everything was in front of the engine instead of on the passenger side.
@eeyvrcs
@eeyvrcs 9 ай бұрын
Ben didn't look shocked at all!
@LSmiata
@LSmiata 9 ай бұрын
Yes WE do. Engineers solve problems with no O.T. paid. Mechanics get "job rate" and cut corners to make more money at the expense of the vehicle owner. That being stated, a good automotive tech is above a mechanic, but hard to find. I work on my own vehicles. I have even declined "free" brakes from a used car purchase b/c I would not trust the parts and installation. P-Chi
@jeremyroberts2782
@jeremyroberts2782 9 ай бұрын
Good design for maintenance does not sell cars. Good design that simplifies build and thus lowers costs helps manufactures, if the design causes more work for dealers than everyone other than the mechanic and the customer is happy. This is the way.
@TML34
@TML34 9 ай бұрын
The water pump isn’t electric? Man, they really made this a difficult job for no good reason.
@cedricjackson7521
@cedricjackson7521 9 ай бұрын
The Mercedes CLA looks like a nightmare to service
@richardwilliams5842
@richardwilliams5842 9 ай бұрын
The #1 reason I feel the engineers don't care about the difficulty of the repairs is because they don't have to work on them when a part breaks down, I own an Audi and it amazes me how they put that engine together SMH
@lutha1720
@lutha1720 9 ай бұрын
The hardest part on German cars is taking it out. I actually find removing the engine mounts and lifting the more up a little gives you a lot off access sometimes you have to drop a bit just adds about 20 mins to the job 😅
@zaineridling
@zaineridling 9 ай бұрын
I never realized how good your eyes have to be to see WHERE to play the wrench or see where certain parts go - especially when using extensions. Man, you work hard for the money. 🤓
@meorge9359
@meorge9359 9 ай бұрын
Those water pumps suck. I worked at the dealer when they first had issues. They sell a special tool for the tensioner so you don’t need to remove the bracket
@LI-FLKayakFisherman
@LI-FLKayakFisherman 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree with comments around German manufacturers expecting customers not to keep their cars long term. I had a 2006 Audi A8L, $82,000 new. Great car except for maintenance and the standard answer whenever I questioned a repair cost was “why do you care you bought an A8.” $600-700 oil changes, etc. The last straw was around 49,000 miles when it started to run slightly hotter than normal. I was told the thermostat probably needed replacement and I was quoted $1800-3200. The OEM thermostat was $18 online. When I questioned the cost range quote they told me they never replace the thermostat without replacing the water pump, belt and pulleys because the front clip needs to be removed to access the front of the engine. The higher quote was because they recommended replacing the timing belt while the front clip was removed. That BS caused me to break out my tools, fabricate the specialty tools to remove the clip and align the cams. Was it a PITA? Absolutely but all the parts, the thermostat, pump, belt, pulleys and timing belt cost me just over $600. Probably took me around 8 hours fiddling around with the front clip and assorted body parts but the way I figured it I was paying myself around $250/hour. I had that car for more than 13 years and it never saw an Audi dealer again.
@VTCharley13
@VTCharley13 9 ай бұрын
Are the oil changes complicated? Or just more dealer gouging?
@LI-FLKayakFisherman
@LI-FLKayakFisherman 9 ай бұрын
@@VTCharley13 semi complicated if not on a lift. The OF is in the lower wheel well area, PITA to get at, but much of the cost is 8 qts of full synthetic oil. They charged 1 ½ hours labor plus materials. I ended up buying the kit from FCP Euro for around $125 and using a vacuum oil pump to drain the sump. Apparently that’s what the technicians use.
@GreggWalken-xd3qv
@GreggWalken-xd3qv 9 ай бұрын
​@@VTCharley13Jaguar dealer charges an EPA Oil Disposal Fee of $12 but their shop heater is a Clean Oil Burn unit. More gouging
@TougeSolo
@TougeSolo 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, but they weren't wrong. If you're doing the thermostat, might as well do the whole front lot. More so with those early 2000's era timing chain cars. Although I do commend you on taking the time to have the ability to do it your self. Saves a lot of money in the long run, and I think it helps create a bond with the car. Or you know, it makes you hate having to do anything on it and nearly forces you to sell it or run it to the ground with neglect because of how much you hate working on it. lol
@LI-FLKayakFisherman
@LI-FLKayakFisherman 9 ай бұрын
@@TougeSolo Definitely bonded with the car over the years😬. Front and rear brakes, numerous trunk lid pull down motors, replaced rear window power shade after plastic roller mechanism broke (that required almost the total removal of rear seats, side panels and headliner), rear light replacement when LED circuit board shorted out from bad seal, xenon front bulb replacements, MMI control panel replacement when that circuit board shorted out. Yep I bonded with it, blood and sweat. But it was a great driving car that got phenomenal mileage, usually 26-28 on the highway.
@user-od4op6ng9y
@user-od4op6ng9y 7 ай бұрын
Screw all these newer complicated cars. I miss the days where you could change things so fast while having plenty of room to work in the engine bay. Now they cram so much tech you have to remove so many parts just to get to one part.
@JamesDIYGarage
@JamesDIYGarage 9 ай бұрын
Love your videos. I learn what cars as DIYer I will not buy hahaha. Which is most of what you work on.
@carlcashman6784
@carlcashman6784 9 ай бұрын
Honestly these vids are far superior Than Hoovies “I am idiot”, look what I bought Check my wallet” vids
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 9 ай бұрын
Actually I'm getting tired about Wizard videos too: I really don't care to see the exterior or interior of random cars, or the usual "this wheel is ok, the brakes are 50%, the shock-absorber is oily...". Let me see some REAL mechanical stuff: for sure it has more relevance (also globally) than seeing a bunch of american cars that are local only.
@carlcashman6784
@carlcashman6784 9 ай бұрын
@@AlessandroGenTLe Wizard needs to stop allowing his wife to be featured, Nobody cares about the things chicks value when it comes to cars. She should do a video on what she packed for his lunch and how she’s working to keep him happy....
@Lowbrass64
@Lowbrass64 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve kinda checked out from Hoovie and the Wizard a bit myself. Hoovie with too much money buying six figure cars and the Wizard seems to be more about his personality than actually showing any work being accomplished.
@themekfrommars
@themekfrommars 9 ай бұрын
The really, really do! Or else there is such grandiosity they assume nothing will ever break!
@tylerniday8935
@tylerniday8935 9 ай бұрын
I have not yet done Porsche H6 spark plugs, but they look very much a similar pain in the ass to certain Subaru H6 and H4 turbo engines. The NA subarus are cake to do plugs on however. Also, for mental optimism I count the replaced plugs like the count down of work days in the week. Just one of those things to help not get too frustrated.
@Abauto84
@Abauto84 9 ай бұрын
wow they have designed that to be difficult to remove what a headache
@FranciscoHernandez-dq7rf
@FranciscoHernandez-dq7rf 9 ай бұрын
As modern engines come by it’s getting harder to diy it’s just a pain in the rear lol damn engineers
@BrovarianMotorWorks
@BrovarianMotorWorks 9 ай бұрын
I've done the water pump on a 2020 version of that Mercedes and it's not too bad took me about two hours but they made revisions to Kane the job easier then on the first gen
@P38world
@P38world 9 ай бұрын
Lol Johnny rinsing Ben for sneezing, funny gear mate
@street-level
@street-level 9 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you put the engine in transversely with the gearbox beside it. BMC knew what they were doing in the 1960s by putting the gearbox underneath the engine to give more space between the wings.
@johnds6621
@johnds6621 9 ай бұрын
johnny cursing that would make for an interesting video. Go for it !
@mightyclos1984
@mightyclos1984 9 ай бұрын
Well he obviously hasn’t worked on a Cruze 1.4 where the belt goes routed through the engine mount. You’re right about engineers hating us 🤣
@tlzangl
@tlzangl 9 ай бұрын
A Mercedes where changing a motor mount is “easy”
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