Car or Truck - What's Better Off-Road? Hint: Only One Makes It Up Cliffhanger 2.0!

[@ronsmith7880]

AWESOME!! AWESOME!! VIDEO!!!😃😃you guys went over the top on this video..Lots of Tire spinning n engines roaring..I just LOVE IT..I cranked this up loud this morning..🏁🏁🏁 think i woke up niehbors...TFL makes BEST videos.

[@dB_944]

It’s time to put skid plates on the Touareg!

[@mallkrawlerz620]

They’re soo expensive.

[@willb3018]

I like all the TFL stuff. But I enjoy watching this father/son team that are entertaining in addition to the customary informative aspect of the videos.

[@chrisgleeton6823]

Yeah, I feel like Tommy was a great addition to the team!

[@Spike-13]

Damn that VW is a freaking beast! Never stops amazing!

[@neilmurphy845]

And whit metal protection

[@fredbrackely]

I am looking forward to the LR3 flattening the VW off-road. The terrain response on the LR has some very unique features to its benefit without locking diffs. For instance in rock crawl mode, the LR will apply a little braking to all 4 wheels so that each wheel will only slip a max of 5 degrees rotation. The onboard sensors will also 'lock' the braking if you are climbing a boulder to curtail any rearwards slippage, and HDC works in reverse gear just in case you chicken out.

[@rohanpatil6168]

if you think the V8 is great wait until you see the V10 version of it ;) Thats the real beast.

[@MrJamesLuz]

If only Roman still had the Rescue Raptor....awesome video and demonstrates what can happen off road. So many people think just because a truck or Jeep is brand new it can’t break....well in all seriousness , congratulations because you prove time and again that TFL does real-world reviews.

[@koke311]

That Touareg is an absolute animal , I’ve wanted one since they came out , all the videos especially this one reinforce that !

[@williamparker7823]

Good luck finding one with a rear locker.

[@PencilProper]

You should see the V10 version!

[@HosBoba]

I have 3.0 TDI its a beast !

[@prr49]

HosBoba had one and it was amazing ! It was a 07 and never had a real problem to be honest

[@martinnightingale6033]

koke311 I have the 3.0 V6 tdi . It's a fantastic vehicle. I've had mine for 4 months and totally love it . It's the ultimate in comfort heated front seats in leather . Heated steering wheel. For when it's a bit chilly . Mine is 6 speed auto with manual shift if you need it . In sport mode it's a total animal . My car has been remapped 255bhp 550ft/lbs of torque . I love my car it's the complete package for me .

[@chrisfarrell5267]

First Andre in a Ford, now Roman in a Ram. New motto: TFL, where WE break driveshafts, so YOU don't have to!!!

[@kgspvgsp7569]

Chris Farrell not buying neither

[@midealautoclub]

I was ready to sell my Touareg a few months ago and replace it with a RAM1500 however this video series made me change my mind. I'll be keeping the Touareg and will drive it into the ground. Keep up the great work guys! Cheers from 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@bmwloco]

Never ever underestimate an over engineered German car.

[@matt9c1]

....until the repair bill comes in. Let's be honest, German car resale values tank because owners know they turn into money pits and dump them. Ever wonder why there are so many BMW's with 90,000 miles for sale ? There's a reason for that.

[@bmwloco]

@@matt9c1 BMWs are tripe. Go Benz.

[@uritaub5441]

JA! Hergestellt in Deutschland!

[@danachim5932]

@@matt9c1 it is a 2001 car. what are you talking about. ?

[@gabet9993]

@@matt9c1 it's called the upcoming timing belt service.

[@roxbery25]

That was definitely a real world review that could happen when off-roading

[@juankyboy123]

That could happen if you buy FCA products

[@scubatrucker6806]

VW must really love Tommy.

[@jacobscutzlas8712]

because hes helping them sell 15 yr old vehicles? Id say Touareg owners love Tommy.

[@dzelpwr]

VW doesn't sell anything like that first gen Touareg anymore, at least not in the U.S.. Stopped being able to get the rear locker after 2007, stopped being able to get the low gear transfer case with center lock after 2010. Also couldn't get air suspension after 2010. So yeah, only thing they're helping is weirdos like me who aren't scared of owning a 15 year old complicated German car that was difficult for VW technicians at the time to figure out since it featured a lot of new tech they weren't yet used to... Actually, I didn't need TFL's help for that. I bought a 2004 Touareg with the V10 TDI last year, which is similarly equipped with having air and rear locker like their V8 model. Except on the V10s, that was standard equipment. V8s it was optional. Not long after I fixed what was wrong with mine this spring and started driving it, TFL started doing their series, which has simply inspired me to try a little offroading of my own with it.

[@GISJIng]

They should sell the Toureg in North America again! way better than that Atlas!

[@shitloveaduck]

GISJIng - yeahhh but ironically, the Atlas is selling. The Touareg wasn’t. Haha

[@GISJIng]

North American market drives me bonkers!

[@brandonobaza8610]

The whole auto industry should be watching TFL. Your methodical testing and subsequent parts breakage shows that "overbuilt" is being engineered out. Vehicles are made to be "just durable enough." It's not a terrible thing, provided every shattered transfer case or collapsed driveshaft leads to a better design or a lesson learned.

[@john-okc450]

True, but the driveshaft is easier to replace than the T-Case or the Diff. , and he could still get home.

[@brandonobaza8610]

@@john-okc450 That's a _"would you rather..."_ statement. What I'm looking for is _why_ did this part break and _is it reasonable_ under the circumstances. Was this a defective part or a design flaw? I suspect the larger than stock wheel/tire + eTorque's 510lb-ft + shock loading the driveline with slipping and gripping over loose rocks spelled doom from the beginning.

[@john-okc450]

@@brandonobaza8610 The tires where my first thought but In the event of a crash the front end crumples, the engine is shoved down and back under the cab. The engine cannot move unless the driveshaft gets out of the way.

[@brandonobaza8610]

@@john-okc450 I see what you mean, but parts being designed to fail safely in an accident doesn't fully explain this. By "collapsed driveshafts," I was referring specifically to some vehicles twisting their aluminum drive shafts apart under power. I think this was an issue for some Ford Explorers and F150s. I'll look for the vid I watched about it and post a link here. TFL even broke a drive shaft on an EcoBoost F150 with just the added power of a tuner. Although...you could argue this was on a prepped drag strip and that track stickyness may have led to another shock load failure. Edit: I stand corrected, this was a GMC kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3arXquIisZ0pdU

[@john-okc450]

@@brandonobaza8610 If it's excessively weak then that's a problem that need to be addressed. But the manufacture can only make parts so strong and still be priced affordably and meet emissions. The average joe doesn't need the strongest parts available for his mall crawler. When you take a car racing or a truck off road it's understood that parts will need to be UPGRADED in order to survive repeated abuses, that truck climbed that hill several times before without issue.

[@brentvance3958]

I love watching you two going four wheeling. My dad and I did this in the 80’s and we loved it. I got my first truck in 1991 an 1989 Chevy stepside and we went 4 wheeling one time before I went in the Navy. He passed away before I could make it back. Thank you for all the videos. It reminds me of what could have been.

[@TFLclassics]

brent vance Those like yourself are the reasons we produce videos. Thank you for your service.

[@takayama1638]

“How do I get down now?” Heheheheheee. “Reverse.” Excellent, Tommy. Not good for Ram reputation. Now the question is how tough are F150s, GMs, Tundras and Titans? A VW pulling a Ram. Love it. Old man Chrysler was of German descent too, right? He’d be embarrassed.

[@bigeyejim]

"How the hell do I get down now?" Tommy: "Reverse." LOL

[@lorrinrodrigueshs-bcp192]

Every time I watch FLC I fall in love with my 2004 Touareg a little bit more!! Thanks for improving my resale value guys!

[@RugbyLock2668]

The SUPREME BUTTCLENCHER backing down that road!! Nice teamwork getting out of that! Awesome video!! Sorry to hear the Ram break but it is a danger of off-roading. It also shows why you don't go by yourself! Great job guys!

[@Corvin666]

I thought this video would end up in a reunion between TFLcar and Matt's Towing and Recovery :)))

[@tanktheram]

Me too! Lol

[@matthweth911]

Is really expecting to see a yellow Jeep XJ show up

[@mihai.tesla88]

Wow wow wow....... dont you ever sell that Touareg 😍

[@paulog8813]

Wait to say that untill the airbags star to blow or the electronics start breaking.

[@endi6836]

@@paulog8813 its a 2001 touareg , if thats happens its okay :)

[@takiman1]

Just love ze Germans

[@ogalief]

@@paulog8813 Actually, the electronics aren't horrible on those cars (minus the over engineered security system). Most of the design flaws have been fixed with updated parts. Going back to the first video, most of those parts have been replaced

[@adam_britton]

@@ogalief watch out for the air suspension. They leak at the fittings. I didn't catch mine in time and ruined my pump as well.

[@trevyrocks1359]

🚚 Right at 11:28, a rock got lodged between the tire and the wheel well. Traction control is supposed to alternate between braking the front and front right wheels. As it braked the right wheel sending all power to the left, the rock stopped the wheel quickly snapping something in the transfer case!

[@dzelpwr]

Just wanted to add: Tommy called the Touareg smaller and lighter... only part right. The Touareg is surprisingly heavy, as equipped likely close to 5300 lbs. The Ram Rebel is likely virtually the same, Touareg has better weight distribution and a shorter wheelbase, though. As the Moab video proved, it also has better approach and departure angles than the Rebel... My 2004 V10 Touareg tips the scales at a barely believable 5850 lbs... and size wise, it's not huge. It's just real damn heavy.

[@edenrique8279]

Real time real world testing. Just awesome!!! Thanks TFL this was by far one of my favorite videos, I believe most outdoorsy people had the most in common with this episode. I know I certainly did.

[@jeremiahkubilus5718]

Sry but this is the most entertaining TFL vid to date because stuff went wrong. Great Video

[@judsonr1]

Awesome work here guys! You realize you’re raising the value of Touaregs everywhere; but especially here along the front range.

[@dB_944]

The Touareg is the car for the zombie apocalypse!!!

[@zachc1297]

It would look great with a plow on the front and giant #3 on the side.

[@stephendee7839]

@@zachc1297 A bit like this? i.imgur.com/XjUW0vx.jpg

[@Billy123bobzzz]

Don't say that out loud because everyone will realize you are right and want to buy one and then the price tag will go through the roof!

[@HasbaraBuster]

@@stephendee7839 . . . thats a good one :)

[@noahmcdaniel4920]

Billy Bob that’s a good thing if you own one

[@whos-your-mate]

GREAT VIDEO! I'm sorry the RAM broke but it was great to watch you guys get stuck in and get down the hill safely.

[@DarkneszFalls]

This video was everything I wanted and more! (I hope the RAM has a speedy recovery.... They hold a special place in my heart, but seeing the Volkswagen do that was awesome!)

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

I was totally impressed with the Rebel until it FCA’d over everything.

[@1985toyotacamry]

That's typical they did it making it good till it dropped in the toliet

[@LekkerDops]

I'm.going to invite Tommy to do some.TFL in Australia. We can test the Ford Ranger Raptor. The boys are all great blokes!

[@IliescuBenyamin]

This shows you how important lightness is in off-road. Weight is key, the less you have the less of a chance of something snapping.

[@imitane]

I doubt that the Ram is actually that much heavier than the VW. That Toureg is like 5300lbs.

[@jamesavery6671]

Rams are built like shit

[@jaskanwarrandhawa6577]

@@jamesavery6671 did see what happened

[@midealautoclub]

Pretty sure that RAM and Touareg weight almost the same

[@BC-sr3gg]

Beni Munson wrong！it break because it‘s a weak junk.

[@charlesschneider7079]

It goes to show how over-engineered the Toureg was.

[@randommanlady]

Even though the volkswagon Touareg is known for its unreliability, off-road ability appears to be the vehicle’s redemption

[@kevinknotts6337]

Great Video! At first I was thinking the Touareg would make it then I was thinking no way........the truck would handle it better. Then we saw what happened. The Touareg is just a great off-roader.

[@Slider68]

Roman: "How the hell do I get down now?" Tommy: "Reverse"... Actually no. The best way to back down a steep offroad slope with a broken front driveline is to put the transfer case in high range and the automatic transmission in drive instead of reverse. Backing down a steep slope without a center locked functional 4wd system very often ends with a roll over (I've seen it far too many times). The issue is the front brakes, by design, are applied far, far too much compared to the rear brakes when reversing so the front tires lock up and you can't steer (as seen in this video). Making the problem even worse, the steep slope makes the weight transfer to the rear (and off the front) and placing the transmission in reverse, even at idle, makes the rear wheels try to continue to rotate while the front easily (and dangerously) locks up. If you instead put the gear selector in drive on a steep enough slope where it would normally roll backwards in drive, this will behave like adding extra rear braking power. As a result you can back down without locking up the front axle which means you can steer! If you find the front wheels are still locking up, a very slight amount of throttle (in drive) will increase the rear braking effect and you can find the right balance point where all 4 wheels are braking at their limit of traction. You can treat the gas pedal like rear brakes and the brake pedal as front brakes so using both you can find the balance point where all 4 wheels are braking at the limit of traction (although most of the time just idling in drive is all you need). Note the reason low range often doesn't work is even at idle there can be too much resistance to rolling backwards and you can end up with the rear tires skidding instead of the front (unless it is an extremely steep slope with good traction, then sometimes leaving it in low range combined with idling in drive can work well) We've used this technique many times in our local off-road club and you'll find it works extremely well, especially on very steep slopes. These conditions can be almost impossible to back down using reverse and the vehicle will often, with the front tires locked up, slide sideways and roll (not good). Another related tip: With transfer cases that use manual levers to switch from low to high range, it can be difficult to switch when you're stuck on a steep slope like this. Make sure you are in a position to roll backwards a bit, place the transmission in neutral and while easing off on the brakes enough to very slowly start to roll, very quickly push the transfer case lever all the way from low, through neutral, and into high. You don't need to roll very far and an inch or two of motion is typically enough if you are quick with the lever. If you do get the transfer case stuck in neutral (grinding if you try to move it into low or high range) turn the engine off (to stop the gears spinning) and then try switching into low or high range again. On a totally different topic, you might find it easier to drive up (and down) slopes like this with the tire pressure lowered more than shown in this video.

[@everythinguneed5210]

i just love these vids...I have a 04 fully loaded with air suspension vw touareg and I am to this day always amazed by it, they just don't make suvs like this anymore, I have friends with range rovers etc, but even they say the same thing....

[@jonajones7044]

Ive never been so EXCITED!!!! THE VIDEO HAD ME ON EDGE!!! AWESOME!!!

[@ethanpereira9233]

Actually very impressed with the VW not many stock suvs can come even close to making that

[@googleuser6635]

It was not stock.

[@keathflohr2480]

@@googleuser6635 it is except for tires.

[@VB_31]

Google User it is.

[@stephenmoxley3004]

Great video, guys. That VW continues to amaze! It made it through some stuff that I thought would be impossible. That car's a keeper, for sure! Put a winch on it and there's no stopping it.

[@kwerner]

Tommy is a smart kid. You taught him well and we can see how proud you are of him. 👍

[@sourabhpurohit4140]

Wow.. love the Touareg. Never ceases to amaze. Please don't sell off the Touareg and do the opposite with the Ram 1500 asap. TFL team the best ever real world review channel. Period

[@claudeperrault4164]

That Touareg is very impressive! Excellent video as usual! I am always looking forward to watching your excellent videos! You have a good crewM

[@jwaschke666]

So these videos with Touareg keep proving it to be this amazing sleeper - I have also learned a ton about my 06 by watching these. Nice to see someone making honest videos about the Touareg since there are more than a fair share that throw shade.

[@dadoboss3322]

I used to love Tuareg ... now I love it so much so much so much

[@mr.esabsurditiesatrocities1805]

You've succeeded in making me want a Touareg. I cannot wait to see the Touareg vs Cayenne match up videos. I'm also hoping we see Tommy's alter ego Chad bring his father along for that one. And I imagine Chad's dad being played by Roman and named "Chet".

[@IssaqAl-Ahmed]

I wont deny that the Touareg is a beast of a crossover, but I don't think people are giving the Ram a fair shake. Something had to give when it came to the Ram. A rock got lodged in between the front driver tire and the cab, the front passenger wheel was fully loaded against a ridge of rocks, and rear was bucking sending shocks through the whole drive line on an almost 3 ton vehicle. I would be shocked if a U-Joint or CV didn't snap from that. If anything, the lesson to be learned here is that a good call from a spotter can make all the difference as well as there really being merit to the saying "Slow as possible, fast as necessary". All being said, really enjoyed this video. Truly real world!

[@denisleblanc4506]

I have never driven up that terrain but when I have driven up steep hills with loose rocks I have never relied on wheel speed for forward progress. If your wheels start to spin, you back up and try another line. I've learned that slow and go wins the day. Loose rocks and dirt is very treacherous because some rocks don't move. When a tire spins up and encounters that rock it imparts tremendous shock to the driveline. Remember you are multiplying the torque to the wheels by a factor of almost 3! But this torque still has to go through the same driveshaft and joints to the tires. Add oversize grippier tires and it's a recipe for disaster if you're not careful. I was told a long time ago that you can apply tremendous torque to a shaft by gradually increasing the torque and it won't break. Apply or release the same amount of torque instantly and it will almost always break. All manufacturers say you should only lock the differentials on loose terrain or risk damaging the drivetrain. Automatic transmissions can also aggravate this already dangerous situation because they will allow wheels with less traction to spin up way faster than manual transmissions and when that spinning tire encounters an imbedded unmovable rock the driveline shock is even more pronounced. The only times wheel speed is your friend is deep mud or snow and this is because you will never get these sudden driveline shocks because everything is wet or icy. Dry terrain like you drove up is completely different. No matter how hard you try to convert a Rebel into a Powerwagon, you'll never have the strength of a HD driveline. Maybe that's why the Powerwagon has a locking front differential. To prevent any wheel from spinning up in front when traction is lost. You spin 4 wheels or none. In the Rebel, the front diff is open. So if one tire has traction and the other spins, it actually spins twice as fast (roughly) as the rear tires magnifying the shock effect. Hammer down Roman is not the driving technique appropriate for this terrain and could probably break the some piece of the driveline on most modified (bigger higher traction tires) rigs.

[@macmurfy2jka]

Denis LeBlanc good advice my friend.

[@shitloveaduck]

That and a rock actually lifted with the tire and wedged in the wheel well. Most trucks would have broken at this point, regardless of bigger tires or not. I don’t disagree with you, but you are wayyyy overthinking this. The hill was so steep that any time they didn’t use momentum they sat still and dug a hole using the style you mention. There is always a bigger picture. The camera doesn’t show it well but they were in a very steep section.

[@TFLcar]

Totally agree. But there is just no way to take this hill gently, and we've tried it with just about every new off-roader out there. It is just wayyy to steep for as slow as possible...

[@denisleblanc4506]

@@TFLcar I believe you, however, momentum and high wheel speed are different things. I now it's difficult to keep speed up in such big rocks, but goosing the throttle is really hard on the driveline. Maybe the traction controls are forcing you to goose the throttle? Trying to overcome their application? Like I said, I never tried your hill. BTW, there's a reason rock crawlers often have 1 ton axles or more and super low gears and it isn't only because of the monster tires.

[@shitloveaduck]

Denis LeBlanc - you need to be there, on that hill, and in those conditions before you can learn the flaws in your theory. Like I say, it works sometimes in some places, but that much dirt mixed with the rocks and that dry, you just spin at any speed so you have to actually maintain a level of wheel spin. I know you will have some comeback to this, but I’m not sure you have exactly encountered these conditions. Rock is heavy in there fro pea gravel all the way up to 15” rocks. It doesn’t pack down so that you can maintain momentum at 30 plus degrees. You can barely stop the vehicle without sliding backwards and in some areas you just can’t stop. I’ve been in that situation and sliding backwards, the only way I stopped it and made it to a point where the ground was firm enough for me to stop is by building wheel speed and pulling myself up the hill. You can see it on KZbin, I have seen it in real life, where a vehicle gets away on a driver and slide backwards out of control because the wheels can’t bite and they panic( or their truck is broken) and fly backwards down the hill. Unless you are there you can’t say exactly what they need to do and have to learn and grow and maybe learn there is more than just one way, your way?

[@DJR5280]

I'd like to see how a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk does. Might be a little too late in the year to find out.

[@john-okc450]

If they don't test the New Defender against the JGC Trailhawk, I am going to be very disappointed. New Defender, Touareg, Trailhawk, Discovery LR3 & LR4 would be a great comparison / Test.

[@mrvwbug4423]

The GC will have the same problem as the Touraeg, the air suspension has very little articulation. The GC also lacks a locker, it just has a LSD in back.

[@john-okc450]

@@mrvwbug4423 It has a E-Locker, and it has quite a bit of articulation when in Off Road 1, not Wrangler Rubicon articulation but enough to get you most places. Lets see a Rubicon take a hairpin turn like a sports car then climb a mountain or tow 7000 lbs.

[@MastersOfMask]

It will break. Lol

[@ahmedhishamdr8485]

Great episode...theses real life adventures are amazing...keep them coming please.Thanks!👍🏼

[@dieterholle5666]

Just on the recovery point, the Touareg original one is designed to sheer open at the thinnest part before putting the vehicle structure at risk. I do see that the recovery eye you are using is not the original one, i.e. does not have this feature. It can handle off-road recoveries, but it is better to carry a second eye and use both points in tandem via a bridle and have safety straps to prevent projectiles. I would avoid snatch recoveries if possible, but that applies to any other vehicle also. Another side note, there is one disadvantage to running oversize tyres on a Treg with air suspension, if the suspension fails, you will not be able to move the car as the bump stops are not enough to overcome the larger wheel diameter. With the standard tyre size you can still very gently drive and steer whilst on bump stops. Over-sized tyres then contact badly with the wheel arches making the vehicle immobile.

[@nevv8581]

Great video guys. I really admired how the two of you kept your cool and worked out how to get out of the stuck situation. Great teamwork and smarts. Thanks for continuing to produce some real world testing and videos. Stay safe.

[@stevencruz4937]

i'm so old I remember when Rams where made ram tough.....

[@takayama1638]

Me too. Dodge back in them days. The Dodge brothers.

[@flight2k5]

Yea they never were.

[@Kumar-bg6nr]

So basically you're non existent.

[@flight2k5]

@@Kumar-bg6nr who?

[@bendmacmanufacturing2744]

I\ll never say bad things about VW again that Touareg is a tank !!!

[@nurbekproductions438]

What psi were you guys running on each vehicles tires? Seemed like it could be lowered a bit more to get more traction and better comfort

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

Looked like about 80 psi.....haha. I dont think they aired down at all based on appearance. I used 13 psi yesterday on similar rocks and it was about perfect.

[@tanktheram]

I thought that to.... looked like street pressure the way they were both sliding

[@littlejln213]

@@tanktheram ditto

[@dB_944]

I’d rather watch this than the Tesla videos. :). I’m biased, though. I love Audi’s!

[@markdenney3903]

Well we are twins. While driving down Modeno Pass my Tacoma wouldn't shift out of 4 wheel drive. Long story short burned out actuator motor results in new transfer case (salvage) 2100$ later. Good luck and my heart goes out to you. At least you dont live in Oklahoma and have to limp home from ALamosa. Love the channel keep it up.

[@noelebbert9322]

we always love a good Touareg off road video.

[@HoosierDaddy_]

Testing to failure is pro quality work! TFL Has the best reviews! I remember those Touaregs having a driveshaft problem too. Nice jov guys! Tommy is turning into a real pro.

[@brittoningraham6056]

The early Touareg models could experience carrier bearing failures causing bad vibrations. I've never heard of one leaving you stranded.

[@49er002]

OMG! That Toureg is INSANE. So glad y'll bought that thing. Keep pushing the limit, can't wait to see what eventually trips it up.

[@arthwys]

Man, that CLANK noise was as real as it gets. Cliffhanger 2.0 is no joke, backing down either truth or dare sounds like nightmare fuel.

[@woke1127]

This video is awesome y’all. Keep up the good work. I’m so glad you guys were able to keep the videos going and didn’t have to stop creating a couple years back!

[@matthewschoenemann]

This was the most nerve wracking video you've ever put out! My heart was pounding! Glad you guys made out in one piece.

[@richardmihok5032]

Had 3.0 V6 TDi Touareg since 2006. It only had the simpler locks, only the one, but it still would not stop for anything. Once I crossed a river in it, water went all the way up to the bottom of the windscreen for a moment, but the only thing that broke in it was the mount for my front licence plate, as I hit the water a bit too fast going in. Beast of a car. 300k km done on it, still refuses to let me down. :)

[@estebanmuneton182]

I like these kind of videos, when is father-son challenges to see which car is the best. Great video guys!!

[@Pilot-Ali]

First casuality on Razer Bend. "Offroading is a charm of breaking machines". Absolutely love this video.

[@fredbrackely]

Not surprised by the outcome for the Ram. You guy's honestly beat the heck out of them for our benefit, unlike the fake cough..cough "Car Wow" comparisons.

[@purplejwhayes]

Wow, let is know how much it cost to repair in another video. Love it when you don’t hide the fact stuff went wrong. Good video.

[@VinDieselS70]

Gosh! Who would've believed a 2004 VW would be such a tough machine where it really is out its comfort zone. Your videos are also great as it shows you the reality of what a car/ truck actually can cope with. 👍

[@Alhareth_Alamri]

Great video from TFL, U prove that no matter new or old anything could happen in the real world...

[@brettsuydam7457]

The Ram rebelled

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

Doesn't matter who the vehicle it was made by the story goes as follows high wheel speed and the sudden abundance of traction is what broke the part

[@s0rc3]

I was thinking this as well but if you re-watch that part a few times those wheels aren't spinning in the air and then hitting the ground or something, I just can't see why they all of a sudden got enough traction to break the transfer case. The rebels have a better transfer case than most of the Rams which have the electronic auto transfer case, although maybe that one would have slipped instead of breaking... ah, the driveshaft broke, I'm dumb should have waited until the end.

[@macmurfy2jka]

Michael Smith wasn’t even spinning that fast, though. All the wheels looked like they at least had a little traction. Honestly watching the video i was expecting it to be the front dif. On IFS the CV joints or the difs are usually what breaks from what ive seen. Driveshafts usually only pop when they’re damaged, at an extreme angle or too short. Considering the trucks IFS, the last two cannot be the case as the dif doesn’t move. From the sound of things, it may have been poorly welded. If they blew up a CV joint, I would be inclined to agree here.

[@India_travelism]

Amazing vdos you guys are making.. And every time you guys make a vdo with the tourag, I am impressed each time. Love the VW😍 Keep rocking guys

[@pablomoreno1999]

first time i see a 4wd system fight that hard to get going, awesome video and even better touareg

[@broncobill392]

Y’all need to get the v-10 turbo diesel Touareg. 👌🏽

[@COM70]

Or the 6 litre V12 diesel that never shipped to the states because of emissions.

[@dzelpwr]

@@COM70, the W12 is gas, not diesel. And we got those engines here, just not in a Touareg. Got them in the Phaeton. A8L... with two turbos strapped to it and plopped into Bentley Continental GTs...

[@COM70]

dzelpwr my bad v12 tdi (autocorrect error). (6.0 V12 48v TDI CR DPF 368kW)

[@COM70]

Will try and find an article for you re why it was banned but from recollection it was to do with California emission laws.

[@COM70]

This was the more common Audi equivalent www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/625315726/audi-q7-60-tdi-v12-tiptronic-quattro-5dr-suv.html?link=/search?keyword=audi+q7+v12+tdi&orderBy=mostRecent&affil=awin&.for-sale.co.uk&Comparison+Engine&awc=5834_1572107639_7577dfc2c0502e646f6b0cec7f30d1fa&AWin-223481&AffiliateWin

[@tanktheram]

To all the FCA naysayers, things happen when you're wheeling. This could have been any brand. Fact is the truck was doing things Wrangler Rubicons were meant to do, and all happening above 10,000ft elevation! Didn't TFL break a Raptor driveshaft back in the day?? Just saying. That Touareg sure is epic though, what a shocker! Put the pedal down Tommy, she just keeps climbing!!

[@Story_Teller_Everyone]

I’ve broke a transfer case before, easy to do when you spin tires than gain grip again quickly

[@poppyneese1811]

Got to agree with everybody, Best TFL Video ever! Thank God for the tough German VW. I’d have filled my pants backing the Big Beautiful RAM off the mountain, hat off to Roman! Great great great video and Thank the Lord no one got hurt!!! If these vehicle handle y’all, I’m a piece of cake for them!!!

[@infiltr80r]

I remember when I was a teen and the Touareg came out, I dreamt of owning one. What a beautiful and unique machine (the V10 TDI).

[@youngblood23rb]

Insert Fiat sketchy build quality comments here......

[@infiltr80r]

Built and designed in America innit.

[@shitloveaduck]

Milton Waddams - yup!

[@youngblood23rb]

@@infiltr80r Hey I own a Rebel, I dont get caught up in the BS

[@carguyg35]

Fix It Again Tony! FIAT.

[@shitloveaduck]

youngblood23rb - good call. This truck was broken by the driving and environment, it was a break that would have happened to any truck brand in that instance. That’s just off-roading,!!!

[@1leggeddog]

Those tires on the Touareg are awesome.

[@juliantaylor9585]

Would like a photo of the broken part. Great video guys

[@kingpin3919]

Great video boys! You guys always kill it. Really worked both vehicles hard. Love it🤘

[@uritaub5441]

Great Fun Review, and real world testing. Definitely ZOE is a tough German Mountain Maiden!!

[@adelnorte]

Every time you guys upload a video with the Touareg i wanna buy one of those so bad! Love it

[@brittoningraham6056]

Buy mine!

[@jm2watkins]

You boys were doing some good old-fashioned Southern Country work today. Type of stuff I would expect to see on those Australian off-road channels

[@604rioso]

Love this channel keep up to awesome videos! I just noticed...you were sticking that camera behind the front left tire...I would have inspected from the front of the car...safety first!

[@rogerj412]

That Touareg isn't made for rock crawling but I'll be damned if it's still not one of the best low key off roaders you can get for a reasonable amount of money.

[@rayepard2241]

This one is worthy of 10 likes, all of you put so much into these videos.

[@cittroman]

What do you guys say about the W12 version of the Touareg?

[@ericksanchez7787]

They really can't give any word about it because the w12 was never available in the US

[@Bombermann97]

That Video shows quite good the difference between german and american qualtiy und engineering

[@rafaeldomenikos5978]

Awesome video as always!!!!! Hope the ram gets fixed easily

[@TFLcar]

So do we. We have to drive it to Vegas next week.

[@dvillalba3d]

For years Europe has enjoyed Fiat legendary "reliability". Now thanks to the FCA merger, RAM and Jeep customers can enjoy it too.

[@johnhouston9653]

Love the drama of getting stuck on trail. Couldn't stop watching

[@efs83dws]

Touareg is impressive. The Ram is a beast. Broken but still a beast.

[@paulog8813]

Nice video. I have a few considerations: 1) In situations like this, is better to disable the Traction Control in order to allow more spinning of the wheels. I bet the Touareg would not open the diff in doing so 2) Real recovery points are a MUST 3) ALLWAYS carry a good recovery kit (straps, tools, etc.) when off-roading. That small plier is not going to help much 3) In trails like that, a winch is a necessity 4) Never EVER stay close on the side or the back of the car, when accelerating in a rocky surface like that. A rock may fly and hit you hard.

[@witkowskimarcin4552]

Paulo G yes, it was dangerous to stay Close to flying rocks

[@TopherParkerCars]

I thought, if anything it would be the Touareg that would be having issues. What an unlikely conclusion

[@BigMateo24]

I find these FCA bashing posts hilarious. I guess I must be different from the average consumer, breaking a driveshaft or a u-joint is just part of offroading. No big deal, part of the fun is breaking it, upgrading it so it won't break again then going back out and thrashing on it even harder. Blaming trail damage on FCA quality is just absurd.

[@PatrickRich]

that was a fun one to watch. Sorry for the trail woes but glad to see you got back safely.

[@GustavoCosta-jr1mh]

I love this kind of comparison... a range rover sport would be cool in that video

[@eddgrs9193]

Great video, guys ! Happy you made it back down in one piece ! :)

[@jamest5149]

For all the bashing I see about German cars reliability issues in the US, it’s good to see some balance... the Touareg is a BEAST