Can This $4000 VW Touareg Keep Up With A Modified Jeep Grand Cherokee Off-Road? We Find Out!

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@johnleslie9493
@johnleslie9493 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparo Tommy! They both look very capable under some quite extreme circumstances. Like the fact that Jeep has some good aftermarket protection options. Still, for under $5 Grand, the VW shines!
@einfelder8262
@einfelder8262 4 жыл бұрын
@Helicopter Dad You mean the Jeep is unreliable, or did you miss the part where the air suspension failed? That could have been ugly if reversing to level ground was not an option, or if the failure resulted in the air escaping. The Touareg has already outlasted a few million Jeeps.
@m-at-the-w142
@m-at-the-w142 4 жыл бұрын
Helicopter Dad mine has not been issue free but not bad either. I remember that I had to replace the head gasket on my grand Cherokee. THEY can be quite unreliable (i.e. 18:06 )
@JohnBaldwin63
@JohnBaldwin63 4 жыл бұрын
@Helicopter Dad You're kidding right? Have you owned a Grand Cherokee? They are not great vehicles and I wouldn't buy another one. I learned my lesson already.
@JohnBaldwin63
@JohnBaldwin63 4 жыл бұрын
@Helicopter Dad I'm not a Touareg apologist at all, I've owned a Grand Cherokee and it was the worst car I've owned. Do you think Ford will be able to match the Wrangler in mod-ability?
@m-at-the-w142
@m-at-the-w142 4 жыл бұрын
All the mods and press for the jeeps are cool, and don't get me wrong, they have the cool, classic look, but I own a Touareg because it's an all-rounder. It's just as capable as the JGC off road (even 12 years later in my case), it's just as luxurious, it's got about the same interior dimensions for utility, and it's even better than the JGC when you factor in that it can tow more and handles better when you want to spirited driving. To get that level of versatility from a JGC, you need to buy 2 jeeps, a track-hawk, and a trail hawk.
@TX_Eric
@TX_Eric 4 жыл бұрын
the Touareg's capability is mind blowing
@scotturich
@scotturich 4 жыл бұрын
This is the comparison I’ve been looking for. I have a 2005 Touareg on 32” KO2 that I paid $3200 for and every time I take it out people can’t believe what it can do. Downside is no under body protection. A company called Forge Motorsport Overland has been making some skid plates for the Treg. Awesome review the Trailhawk Grand is almost a mirror match of the Touareg 14 years later.
@mmodtomic7119
@mmodtomic7119 4 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people would love to see a series where you have a set of custom made skid plates and body armor built for the Touareg.
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 жыл бұрын
That's all that car needs it's a match for the jeeps
@markgold2450
@markgold2450 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Any decent shop should be able to fab up a set of armor for it. The Touareg is a beast, just keep up on maintenance. Having managed a German auto repair shop where these were common, repairs can get stupid expensive if you don’t take care of even minor things when they arise.
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 жыл бұрын
@@markgold2450 yah same with other cars or anything in life
@PatTheRiot
@PatTheRiot 4 жыл бұрын
Oh ya the 3 guys with a Touareg in town will go nuts and buy tire valve caps after repairing their oil cap for 769$
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 жыл бұрын
@@PatTheRiot yah haha why's it's so expensive
@rubenbraekman4515
@rubenbraekman4515 4 жыл бұрын
That VW with the front, rear and center locker is by far the best car VW ever made... it's even superior to 99% of what's on the market right now!
@wettenFTW
@wettenFTW 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this one does not have the front locker. To Touareg was sold only in Europe (I think) with the front locker. Nevertheless a beast of a car
@lav1daloca
@lav1daloca 4 жыл бұрын
That Touareg came with a V10 Turbo Diesel engine! It was truly a beast and way better than the new ones!
@TFLcar
@TFLcar 4 жыл бұрын
@Pedro Areias I have seen just one!
@hallkbrdz
@hallkbrdz 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the US didn't get the front locker or front swaybar disconnect features. I'm just glad we got what we did...
@syxepop
@syxepop 4 жыл бұрын
@@lav1daloca - Tommy said this particular OG Touareg has the V8 (NA-4.2L) gas engine. If this had the "early Aughts-spec" HD-pickup grunt of Audi's V10 TDi it'd be slightly different.
@infidel24
@infidel24 4 жыл бұрын
The Touareg did everything just as well as the jeep. It all came down to the jeep driver going faster up the 1 part than Tommy did in the vw.
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 3 жыл бұрын
They are both heavy, have the same specs or close enough, and relatively the same size tires... one has a rear locker and the other has a very strong electronic lsd. Not a shocker at all.
@akilghosh
@akilghosh 4 жыл бұрын
Cheap cars + off-road challenge = Great content
@thecarslover6908
@thecarslover6908 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think a Jeep Grand Cherokee is a cheap SUV ??
@akilghosh
@akilghosh 4 жыл бұрын
Was talking about the Volkswagen. Tfl do mention it as their bargain SUV
@Momo7O7
@Momo7O7 4 жыл бұрын
“CarS” plural for more than 1. You meant both. The Grand Cherokee does alright.
@zlatko680
@zlatko680 4 жыл бұрын
That touareg is a beast !!!
@Little.R
@Little.R Жыл бұрын
That Touareg has a LOT less wheel slip than the WK2. It does way better than I ever expected.
@4wheelsandamotor
@4wheelsandamotor 4 жыл бұрын
Both are really cool platforms. I do prefer selectable lockers over automatic.
@Tjspycorp
@Tjspycorp 4 жыл бұрын
Then get a Cherokee Trailhawk. Selectable specifically unlike the Grand Cherokee :)
@john-okc450
@john-okc450 4 жыл бұрын
The rear Locker is 100% ON when in "Rock Mode".
@Tjspycorp
@Tjspycorp 4 жыл бұрын
JOHN-OKC good to know thanks
@mendiesel7932
@mendiesel7932 4 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this match up since, FOREVER!
@mrdkhimself2
@mrdkhimself2 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best TFL offroad video ever! Liked the new trails and pushing these vehicles close to the limits.
@lav1daloca
@lav1daloca 4 жыл бұрын
That Touareg came with a V10 Turbo Diesel engine! It was truly a beast and way better than the new ones! Of course the Chrysler breaks down LOL
@shosaleen
@shosaleen 4 жыл бұрын
More impressed with the vw
@tc1uscg65
@tc1uscg65 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was impressed that a repair bill might be more then the thing is worth. I think they should have gotten a same year GC. The VW would blow it away. But still, thinking of a 8K repair bill if you trash the bottom of the car(tranny), I think I'd just give Goodwill the location concordance and have them come get it. :-)
@MrCrazedTV
@MrCrazedTV 4 жыл бұрын
I really loved this episode. I loved seeing the Touareg ran through it's paces and keeping up with modern tech. Good job man!
@lukeheffernan
@lukeheffernan 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy the Touareg content. Keep it up.
@Andywinnipeg
@Andywinnipeg 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, keep doing that , it always surprises me how the Touareg holds up against much newer off road vehicles. And I love that Jeep too.
@Zulukaigue
@Zulukaigue 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the title should be "Can the Grand Cherokee keep up with..."
@y4nnickschmitt
@y4nnickschmitt 4 жыл бұрын
Yes more Touareg!!!! I love it.
@JohnBtons
@JohnBtons 4 жыл бұрын
If that VW had some protection it would be a WEAPON off road! You guys should put some plates on it.
@ShredderSensei
@ShredderSensei 3 жыл бұрын
Jeep should really hire this young guy to be a brand ambassador. He basically sold me on this GC Trailhawk. My family has a Renegade Trailhawk which is a great car for what it is.
@andreipretorius92
@andreipretorius92 4 жыл бұрын
Love that Grand Cherokee. What a mean machine. Like the Touareg but if something breaks.
@tasospapadopoulos898
@tasospapadopoulos898 4 жыл бұрын
touareg is yom of 2004, which means 16 years and still rocks. Way ahead of its time designing and build quality wise......mind blowing.
@IAMTRASHMAN267
@IAMTRASHMAN267 4 жыл бұрын
“The Grand Cherokee is just proven” 4Runner: am I a joke to you?
@jae3158
@jae3158 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Losito yes.
@boy638
@boy638 4 жыл бұрын
The loud music is a bit much, but man the old VW impresses me more and more. Though I still would not want to own one.
@m-at-the-w142
@m-at-the-w142 4 жыл бұрын
Aw common, treat yourself 😉😋😎
@m-at-the-w142
@m-at-the-w142 4 жыл бұрын
SlowFox aw common, you're just regurgitating what other non-owners say. Look, anyone can drive a Honda CR-V for the rest of their life, there is nothing wrong with that. But if you want an enthusiast's vehicle - one that still puts a smile on your face after 12 years of ownership - then yeah, you might have to put a little effort into her. 😎 Seriously though, the Touareg is quite the engineering feat.
@Brononomous
@Brononomous 4 жыл бұрын
I love the funky music kicking in while he is rock climbing
@mikec5820
@mikec5820 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a welcome change from the 80s metal that car reviewers play anytime a tire touches dirt
@kmikeru
@kmikeru 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get why someone would decide to add music into the video with V8s...
@scottroberts3705
@scottroberts3705 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Tommy and I love the Grand Cherokee TrailHawk!
@alfrededwards6738
@alfrededwards6738 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Tommy has good chemistry with the young man in the trailhawk.
@brantregare
@brantregare 4 жыл бұрын
@19:42 the descent of the Jeep is helped out by adding rocks. The Touareg did not get this assistance. Clearly the Jeep loses, as it, IS armored, and the Touareg is not,
@2xlu775
@2xlu775 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 4.2 V8 with 4xmotion after watching this series. Best choice I've ever done!
@jayhennessy8317
@jayhennessy8317 3 жыл бұрын
How are you getting on with it 5 months later!? Really thinking of buying one
@2xlu775
@2xlu775 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayhennessy8317 I'm love with this big guy, I'm selling my other project cars to put more attention on this one. 0 issues btw, only fun when off roading and comfort when I'm travelling
@armedinbama
@armedinbama 4 жыл бұрын
Piling up rocks for the Jeep and not for the VW was dirty pool. While this is standard practice for off-roaders, obstacles should have been applied equally to both vehicles. I know, small potatoes... but it is what it is.
@franciscodiaz7557
@franciscodiaz7557 4 жыл бұрын
And takes the obstacles at higher speed
@armedinbama
@armedinbama 4 жыл бұрын
@Yashua Fradkin Go to 19:05 bro. Jeep driver called it "rock stacking". What would you call it? Again, only done for the Jeep.
@dzelpwr
@dzelpwr 4 жыл бұрын
Has the Tough T failed to impress yet? Because it hasn't failed to impress me so far. Love every test you guys have put this thing through. I also like the Wk2s quite a lot. Good looking SUV. In many regards, the WK2 is like an American Touareg. There's a surprising amount of similarities in how they're constructed.
@kyleh4557
@kyleh4557 4 жыл бұрын
These are my favorite kind of TFL episodes
@WisconsinDIYGuy
@WisconsinDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
The trailhawk is 10.8" stock on offroad II height so with those tires it would be 11.3" roughly. The rear is a limited slip. Great video. I just bought an 18 trailhawk. Love it. I also found a complete replacement suspension kit from Rocky Road. That would be my plan if it ever takes a poop.
@admrob
@admrob 4 жыл бұрын
Every time they post one of these I start looking for T-regs again.
@kim6261
@kim6261 4 жыл бұрын
Who the hell chose the music? I closed my eyes and got a visual of the inside of popeye's.
@Zeppelin1160
@Zeppelin1160 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison video. Always enjoy watching TFL vids with the Treg in it... that vehicle is such a mountain goat. BTW, great choice of music to go with the video.
@OutlawFarmersRC
@OutlawFarmersRC 4 жыл бұрын
I will stick with my 2004 Grand Cherokee. The last of the true rock crawling ones with solid front and rear axles and a very reliable 4.0L Straight six!
@bruhice6058
@bruhice6058 4 жыл бұрын
New Cherokee is so sad compared to old ones
@prandomable
@prandomable 4 жыл бұрын
Land Rover, Range Rover are one of the MOST capable unibody crossover SUVs along with Touareg and Cherokee Trailhawk. Land Rover also have air suspension and can lift the vehicle in off road mode as well.
@robertsmith1768
@robertsmith1768 4 жыл бұрын
Love seeing somebody off road a GC.
@SmokedRubber
@SmokedRubber 3 жыл бұрын
VW all day. We love our Touareg. The capability around practical versus off road use is very well sorted.
@minivanmaster
@minivanmaster 4 жыл бұрын
Both have old-school V8s. So cool. Can do everything. Off-road, tow, and cruise in luxury
@adrianhosein7698
@adrianhosein7698 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly? I was more impressed with the toureg, also that Chrysler quality checking in right on time huh? 👀
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Ross not on a Toyota 🤣😂
@adrianhosein7698
@adrianhosein7698 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Ross I mean, if you're offroading I doubt ull be on much level ground, 👀
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Ross just admit it, the system failed.
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Ross sad jeep is unable to design it to work on anything but a level surface 😔. Oh well Chrysler is a failure of a company.
@La-yt1wr
@La-yt1wr 4 жыл бұрын
@@flight2k5 I'm surprised you guys love to talk Crap about but there's other brands that has worst vehicles or has worst reliability than FCA.
@ianskaufer
@ianskaufer 4 жыл бұрын
Solid video! I have/had both vehicles in the video: quite some years ago I had the 2009 Touareg T2 with the V6 3.0L TDI, Firestone Destination AT's, and the same wheels as the Touareg in the video. Having taken it offroad aplenty in southwest AZ, I can attest to its offroad capability and onroad luxury. It was quite the porker though! Just wish I could've added some custom underbody protection and kept it... Interestingly, I have a 2017 WK2 Trailhawk with the Hemi now. Very similarly setup to @grandhemihawk's with the AT3W's and rock rails (Chief Products). The WK2 is built on a Mercedes-derived frame, so that's why it has virtually zero NVH and is perfect for long jaunts on the highway. The rear electronic limited slip diff isn't an autolocker, per se, although someone from the forums has connected an OBD2 scanner and found the tech details about what's going on with the rear e-LSD when in different modes and in 4LOW. It will indeed "lock" the diff, so it performs the same function in specific modes (4LOW MUD and ROCK). If I had to go back to a cheap offroader, I'd opt for the same V8 Touareg T1 with the mystical rear diff locker, even with the scary german repair prices! Great buy, @TFLCar!
@_cannedheat_
@_cannedheat_ 4 жыл бұрын
The Porsche Cayenne would also be interesting in this comparison. Nice Video 👌🏼 Touareg is impressive
@angelescrestink
@angelescrestink 5 ай бұрын
This whole series with the Touareg is great. I need one now!
@zachc1297
@zachc1297 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for spending some time on the music for this. Great video. Reminds me how little there is to do for off roading in Indiana without really searching.
@therealchrisbrewer
@therealchrisbrewer 4 жыл бұрын
That was an incredibly well edited video. That music when the VW had one tire 6 feet off the ground was *chef's kiss*
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 4 жыл бұрын
The Lr3 raises way quicker than any other air suspension suv I know of. Only takes a couple seconds.
@AdamHowardTravelerdawg
@AdamHowardTravelerdawg 3 жыл бұрын
This young man, Storm, really knows his stuff. He did well in front of the camera. His rig setup is great! Gets me pumped to build my own rig, maybe a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk?
@michaelperry355
@michaelperry355 3 жыл бұрын
PSA. For those who do not know. 2011 and earlier QD2 Systems have front, center and rear electronic locking differentials. Not just center and rear.
@cossack4930
@cossack4930 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. I would love to see the LR (old and new) compared with the Trailhawk.
@ontheotherside3
@ontheotherside3 4 жыл бұрын
eLSD (electronic limited slip differential, NOT electronic locked something differential), according to the manufacturer, is fully integrated with the vehicles braking system... the kid has no idea what he is talking about
@aaronmartinez9793
@aaronmartinez9793 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve got a grand Cherokee with qd2 that I’ve wheeled a bit and know way more about how my system works than this dude does.
@srtabc123
@srtabc123 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a wk2 limited with qt2. I’ve heard of qt1, qt2 and qd2 but never qd1 on a wk2. I also caught his slip up talking about the elsd.
@aaronmartinez9793
@aaronmartinez9793 4 жыл бұрын
For those that stumble by this. The lowest end system is quadratrac 1. This is essentially an all wheel drive system with no center lock or low range mode. Every wheel gets brake assist traction control. Quadratrac 2 adds a Low range mode, center lock, and again brake assist traction control all around. Quadradrive2 is the highest end option with a low range option, center lock, rear “electronic limited slip differential” which functions as a LSD on the road and it locks electronically when it detects wheel slip. This is mechanical and the rear locks like a true locker. The front gets brake assisted traction control too which can in certain circumstances be almost as good as a locker. The downside to the ELSD and traction control is that it takes some getting used to off road. You have to actually let the wheels slip a bit for the power to be diverted to the slipping wheels. On the rocks it can be a little nerve wracking but I’ve been through some hairy shit no one thought I’d be able to do.
@tallll70
@tallll70 4 жыл бұрын
So the highest option does indeed deliver power through elsd on rear axle, just front is only abs traction
@aaronmartinez9793
@aaronmartinez9793 4 жыл бұрын
@@tallll70 right, I believe the rear axle is also able to be used with brake assisted traction control, but I don't know that for sure. In some situations such as on road during an accident, I believe it can.
@rileyblizzard2
@rileyblizzard2 4 жыл бұрын
music ruined the video
@blaquejaque9702
@blaquejaque9702 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, great video, but what's even better is your soundtrack. There were several songs that had me bobbing my head to the music. Keep up the great work
@robertyoung8289
@robertyoung8289 4 жыл бұрын
The V dub has 0 articulation but still performs surprisingly well.
@okay_chr1s
@okay_chr1s 4 жыл бұрын
If he would have went down 1 air level it would have had more articulation lol
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын
Buy 3/4 or 1 inch HDPE sheets and make your own skid plates for the Tough T...
@AgentXRifle
@AgentXRifle 4 жыл бұрын
Love my '05 WK/Hemi! Great on the highway, great off road. Since it's my DD, I'd rather have IFS then a solid axel. I don't rock climb either, but I like to go remote camping and it brings me places I probably shouldn't go! Can't wait to upgrade it, one day!
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 жыл бұрын
When are they going to install metal shields and rock rails on it why not buy steel and make some protection yourself
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын
Too heavy, use HDPE.
@brandonrent7276
@brandonrent7276 4 жыл бұрын
chill with the music!
@jacobberlin614
@jacobberlin614 4 жыл бұрын
VW... Just remember I noticed you said full break I'm sure you slowly rolled into the pedal.. the car has a feature known as HBA or hydraulic brake assist when sudden stabs of the peddle are sensed the hydraulic system engages a booster to increase braking force in the event of the need of an immediate stop.. test the brakes out rolling to full travel then slammed and you'll see a comparable real world difference.. I tested 70-0 repeatedly with different reactive pedal additude and got a considerable difference when HBA engaged
@MYGTO7
@MYGTO7 4 жыл бұрын
Man. This video was overdue. Wish this video was out earlier. Would've changed my mind about buying this or a pickup. Awesome performance from both platforms! Keep up the content TFL ROCKS. Thank you guys!
@j.j.e.2417
@j.j.e.2417 4 жыл бұрын
Lets have a look how the Grand Cherokee performs on the Autobahn at 130 mph for the hole day or the the hole week with things like curves and corners. The Touareg can do this its hole life.
@RichardsWorld
@RichardsWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Bad choices if you want a car for the Autobahn. Get serious.
@333jsh
@333jsh 4 жыл бұрын
Best video from you guys in a little bit! Love that Grand Cherokee haha. I'm a Grand Cherokee fan and I like ZJs, but that hemi trailhawk is about perfect. Needs some bigger tires and a little more lift than what it has, but other than that hell yea
@kc510
@kc510 4 жыл бұрын
ZJ with the 5.9 👀
@gen1c8rs88
@gen1c8rs88 4 жыл бұрын
A one inch lift and 285/70r17(17x7.5 or 8).
@gerhardstrydom5249
@gerhardstrydom5249 4 жыл бұрын
Very surprised with the VWs performance! Good performance is expected from Jeep, but from the luxury VW SUV its very surprising. Out there as an off-the-shelf vehicle the VW is similar to the Range Rover in that both can go no-where near off-road with their low-profile standard tires. And many people pay for all that off-road capability and never even drive over a pavement🤔
@SDav21
@SDav21 4 жыл бұрын
Same with the ML of that time. With the off road Pro package it came with rear and centre diffs, underbody protection and extra ride height air suspension. Was just as capable.
@RichardsWorld
@RichardsWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy likes the simple and budget friendly options.
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic 4 жыл бұрын
This episode of tfl has been brought to you by , BUT CLENCHING! Lol
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын
Butt*
@mattieskola7050
@mattieskola7050 4 жыл бұрын
Tough T Rules it's amazing 💪💪💪
@ryangillette2828
@ryangillette2828 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Touareg for 5 years, bought it new and never really took it off road because it was so damn expensive at the time! But man I wish I still had it. I have an X5 now and would never attempt it off road.
@ensoelmeri3288
@ensoelmeri3288 4 жыл бұрын
The front differential is better on the Touareg then the Cherokee you can see that when they lift the front in the razorback rock thing or whatever it was called. The Touareg kept the front tire that was in the air from spinning but the Cherokee didn't. Sure it might be something to do with how much power he put into it but I still think the front diff in the Touareg is better.
@Karjis
@Karjis 4 жыл бұрын
Enso Elmeri it has open diff but Touareg ESP has amazing programming in it.
@Mulletsrock23
@Mulletsrock23 4 жыл бұрын
The first generation of Touareg and Cayenne were competent off-roaders. They will surprise people.
@dmegahan
@dmegahan 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Also, what’s up with the music. Lol. I know you were thinking about the words and not the type but it is definitely something TFL does not normally do. I am also not 100% sure it fits right.
@bigpoppa1992
@bigpoppa1992 4 жыл бұрын
Love the grand Cherokee and the 5.7 v8 Hemi is the icing on the cake.
@stevenmoore4078
@stevenmoore4078 3 жыл бұрын
While I live in Michigan and will probably never take my Jeep Grand Cherokee offroad in these kinds of extreme conditions you displayed, it is nice to know I have a vehicle that is more than capable of handling the conditions when we venture off the beaten path in northern Michigan.
@tuolumne9
@tuolumne9 4 жыл бұрын
All these years later and the VW Touareg is finally being given it’s due not just for being pricy to maintain, but as the high caliber, highly sophisticated, and timeless vehicle that it really is. It’s also clearly stood the test of time. The exterior may be bland, but I’d say it’s elegant, unassuming, tirelessly built to the best standards available, and also has aged very well. It also sports a Bentley grade interior - everything from the watch-faced chrome trimmed gauges, the yacht-inspired steering wheel and gear selector, to the industrial design which has more then stood the test of time, validated the Touareg is a brilliantly designed benchmark that’s arguably better than its higher priced, but not as well built, German and English brethren of the time. By the way, that JGC is based on the last generation MB ML platform - it’s German twin, but the interior on this one is cut rate v. the ML (it’s substantially cheaper). Touareg is a classy, sophisticated, elegant over engineered world greats which will be a collectors item someday. The JPC is a mass market SUV, and that’s fine, but I don’t think Ferdinand PIech would have signed off on it in 2003 >< Great video and thanks for continuing to celebrate the VW Touareg like nobody else in media has really ever done in America. I know some mid-level heads in Wolfsburg who love this series.
@TFLcar
@TFLcar 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for the kind words and great insight, I completely agree. I Hope some of our friends at VW know we appreciate the immense effort that went into this vehicle! -Tommy
@ogalief
@ogalief 4 жыл бұрын
The Touareg has got to be one of the coolest cars on the road, but only to a very niche audience. In order to own this car and really enjoy it, you'd really have to appreciate the little known and subtle details that set it apart. Seems like you're one of those people. Despite all of the nightmares that mine has given me with maintenance costs, it's still my favourite car on the road. Most people would think that it's a well equipped Tiguan. I'd like to put antique plates on mine someday. Sadly, I'll be going to flight school in a year's time (coincidentally, I bought mine from a fighter pilot), so I'll be putting it in storage for a while. Too costly to own on a student budget.
@krane15
@krane15 4 жыл бұрын
Standing the test of time means not only holding its own, but against much more modern cars which is likely its greatest accompaniment ever. Especially since that was the very first thing all of its detractors complained about back when the car was new. Its good to see, at least in this case, that they were wrong.
@TheSkrillexRemix
@TheSkrillexRemix 4 жыл бұрын
I put a 1/4 steel skid plate on my 82 280zx non-turbo and it’s saved my oil pan a few times now.
@rossbowman202
@rossbowman202 4 жыл бұрын
Touareg for the win. More Touareg videos
@fpartidafpartida
@fpartidafpartida 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on this video. Pucker factor on those wheels off the ground was diamond-creating capable.
@silver6gen1
@silver6gen1 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video iron clads is probably the best trail to feature those two (pole hill would be another good one). I enjoyed seeing the falken at3’s at work, getting ready to put those on my wife’s Jeep.
@rynoopperman5010
@rynoopperman5010 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell does a 12 year old own a Grand Cherokee 😳😱
@Alx2672
@Alx2672 4 жыл бұрын
12 yr old JGC isn't their best year, but I'll put up a $1k 98zj against it all day long. Just give $2k for add ons and it'll beat almost anything out there.
@nicholassmith7048
@nicholassmith7048 4 жыл бұрын
White privilege?
@andoniades
@andoniades 4 жыл бұрын
...better than him owning a Dodge Demon. At least this youngin will have a chance to live
@atodaso1668
@atodaso1668 4 жыл бұрын
works hard?
@lbnewell23
@lbnewell23 4 жыл бұрын
And with expensive mods too
@GRANLALO25
@GRANLALO25 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Tommy... PLEASE install some protection plates to that beautiful Touareg!!!!
@mirkosphotographer
@mirkosphotographer 2 жыл бұрын
Hey junior, when u drive the Touareg, I see fear in your eyes when you go up and down the hill, relax and floor it, it's a rock, it's a Touareg, don't go super slow mo allways, just drive it! 👌💪💪💪💪
@nh_2923
@nh_2923 4 жыл бұрын
Touareg ❤️
@rockymountboy
@rockymountboy 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this comparison since they bought the Toaureg.
@MicahHarford
@MicahHarford 4 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed that both vehicles have more ground clearance than the 2018 Jeep Wranglers (Sport, Sahara and Rubi at 9.7, 10 and 10.8 inches, respectively).
@JRSmith-yf7nk
@JRSmith-yf7nk 4 жыл бұрын
Alittle SRV playing in the background was my main takeaway
@carlthomas7557
@carlthomas7557 3 жыл бұрын
Just received my GCT(which I ordered) and I love it
@john-okc450
@john-okc450 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I feel your channel has neglected the JGC Trailhawk not only in videos but also in comparison conversations. I Love my 2018 Trailhawk. I added full Chief skids, sliders, Warn 10K winch, 32" K02 tires for $50K total investment. LOVE IT. Needs a front camera, better A-Piller visibility, more reachable storage around the drivers area.
@ajuister
@ajuister 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the new defender on these trails
@dorvinion
@dorvinion 4 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 2004 Touareg V6 For such a heavyweight vehicle, the V6 had some muscle though I do wish I had gotten the diesel. When we went to Arches and Canyonlands we stuck to the kiddy level off-road stuff because street tires. Every now and then I miss that vehicle.
@TheUndergroundbeats
@TheUndergroundbeats 4 жыл бұрын
Being that this is a local trail we frequent, please use proper trail etiquette and move away the rocks you stacked on the last obstacle you placed. Not everyone needs/wants obstacles to be easier.
@vividamiani5166
@vividamiani5166 4 жыл бұрын
God I love the grand cherokee. I need to look on to those company’s for my Trailhawk!
@CSAFMedia
@CSAFMedia Жыл бұрын
Aftermarket offroad Touareg support 21:22 is improving thanks to Eurowise Performance.
@chadburkitt4856
@chadburkitt4856 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Though I have to make a PSA: the touareg's 'Xtra' height was not used correctly in the video. It is only meant to get you unstuck and only adds like 1/4 inch but robs all suspension flex. Also, fuggin send it, man, too slow on some parts! The air suspension on touaregs was light years ahead of its time. It not only has 5 selectable heights but also dampening control. Non selectable modes include rollover protection, addtl dampening + lowering at high speeds (100 & 120 MPH), and if you open the hood in off road mode, she'll kneal down to make it easier to access the motor :)
@RustySh4ckleford
@RustySh4ckleford 4 жыл бұрын
Fyi it lowers at 90mph and 125 mph. I have the exact same Touareg as in this video, but silver and only 50k miles , Florida car.
@mirceahotea6516
@mirceahotea6516 4 жыл бұрын
You are wrong about the ML w164. We have in Europe ML's with Off road Engineering Package which consists in Low range, center and rear lockers, levels of road air suspension (11.8 inch stock tyres) and skid plates for the engine and gearbox. Actually I would say it's even better than the Touareg because it's a little smaller, lighter and has better angles: 34 attack and 31 departure. 3L diesel engine with 500Nm torque from 1600Nm coupled with a 7+2 gearbox. You can even find some rare V8 diesel engines on theese beasts which would be unstoppable! It's around 8000 USD for a 2006 -2008 model.
@dougkilgore1
@dougkilgore1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. However, incorrect info on the Jeep drive system, QuadraDrive II. ELSD stands for Electronic Limited Slip Differential, not Electronic LOCKING Rear Differential. Also, the QuadraDrive II ELSD on the current (2011-2020) WK2 body style is found ONLY on the rear. The front uses an open differential and and a less expensive brake-based wheel locking to distribute front power right to left and minimize (but not prevent) wheel-spin. True QuadraDrive II (rear AND front ELSD) was only found on the 2005-2010 WK series body style. Jeep claims you’ll never miss the front ELSD in 99.9% of situations, and I suppose that’s true if you mostly drive on-road and never in snow or gravel, but the reality is that it was a cost saving measure for Jeep to eliminate the front ELSD. In true traction critical situations, the WK system was absolutely superior and even in non-critical situations, the tank-like no-wheel-spin crawl capability for the WK is inspiring compared to the WK2. I’ve owned both variants in QuadraDrive II (actually owned a YR 2000 with QuadrDrive I as well) and can attest that the WK version of the QuadraDrive II was the best GC drive system ever made. My WK QDII even went to 225K miles without a single driveline issue. My current WK2 is more comfortable and has more tech toys, but will be my last Jeep GC if they don’t give it back the drive system it deserves. The air suspension is also horrible riding in Off-Road 2 - I’d never check that box again. But that’s another story.
@boundish1
@boundish1 4 жыл бұрын
I just love the touareg! it is so unassuming and to normal people its iust a run of mill SUV , but those who know they know.
@thatblondeguy9566
@thatblondeguy9566 4 жыл бұрын
Ive never gotten stuck in everyday driving situations. My touareg has been a beast! Its only the v6 without airbags
@scotturich
@scotturich 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Jeep Gladiator rubicon on 35’s and sometimes I’ll trick my off road groups (mainly Taco’s) and decide to bring my 2005 Touareg v8 with rear locker and 32” Ko2’s and just embarrass them. Plus nothing beats the sound that 4.2l makes when you get on it
@thehayman7352
@thehayman7352 3 жыл бұрын
@@scotturich your toureg doesn’t embarrass any Tacoma’s lmao
@The_Opinion_of_Matt
@The_Opinion_of_Matt 4 жыл бұрын
If you put a Quaife (or Peloquin, I have one in my `09 GTI) Limited-Slip in the front of the Touareg it would help the traction control system immensely. No clutches to wear out. Both have a lifetime warranty (last I looked). The problem with the Quaife style of LSD is that they require both wheels to have some resistance (i.e. traction) and if one of the wheels is in the air or on ice they still act like a open differential. This is where the brake based traction control comes to the rescue. When the traction control system applies the brakes to the wheel in the air it will cause the LSD to do it's thing and the whole off road obstacle becomes much smoother and less damage prone. The Ford Raptor has a Quaife for the front diff I believe.
@Bigshows93
@Bigshows93 4 жыл бұрын
Why not air down the tires?
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