CARACAL: Getting Started With Abyssal Deadspaces || EVE Online

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00:00 - Introduction
03:01 - The Caracal
05:16 - The Fit
09:55 - Combat Demonstration
[Caracal, T1 Abyssal Caracal]
Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I
IFFA Compact Damage Control
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Large C5-L Compact Shield Booster
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Compact EM Shield Amplifier
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Prototype 'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I
Prototype 'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I
Prototype 'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I
Prototype 'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I
Prototype 'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Scourge Heavy Assault Missile x300
Hornet I x2
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[@Nhyi]

I love all these different Abyssal fits for different ships! Thanks :)

[@captainbenzie]

Glad you're enjoying!

[@titaniummechsx3324]

It a nice detail that a lot of Caldari ships would have those wings on the sides retracted when the ship is in warp

[@captainbenzie]

Yup, they do sort of fold and move.

[@M5onster]

Great video. I've wanted to try an Abyssal with a cruiser; now I'm anxious to give this fit a try.

[@captainbenzie]

Go for it!

[@joeharker7918]

Love these abyssal fittings! I'll eventually find a ship that fits my playstyle! :)

[@captainbenzie]

Good luck!

[@sineupp]

woah, I just ended an eve session where I asked this very question in the abyss channel and started an argument. some ppl told me caracal is fine, others said I should get gila instead. I can only afford one of them, so caracal is indeed good enough I see.

[@captainbenzie]

God, I hate how everyone is just like "Fly a Gila". It's boring as hell, and other ships do just as well. Start with the Caracal, move up to the Cerberus 😉 Just annoys me that not everyone wants to fly a Gila but it's treated like your only option for Abyssals

[@TheRufas24]

@@captainbenzie late to the comment but yes this!. Google abyssal fit. 90% GILA fits ugh..

[@krazywulf1983]

so agreed. everyone says gila. i dont want to fly gila. fly what you enjoy mate :).. zrapid light till T3 T4-6 heavy assult.. the reload of rapid light kills your dps in T3+ ive heard.. id ont know about you but i have pg issuess with this and most fits and cpu and im maxed for alpha in most skills

[@TaRaTaTaF]

Great content as always. Just one thing that I wasn’t sure I heard correctly. Did you mention the need of a fleet? For cruisers, you don’t need to be in a fleet to enter the Abyss. Fly safe, Captain o7

[@captainbenzie]

Correct, no fleet needed for Cruisers 😂

[@sirannikus]

Thanks!

[@captainbenzie]

No problem!

[@thedude6458]

On one of my early runs i took my brand new caracal navy issue and lost most if not all of my hull, had to wait for my shield to recharge, and ended the run with 40 seconds left on a calm. Neadless to say this fit is about 1/2 the price and seems to work better. Will be giving it a shot soon

[@captainbenzie]

Good luck!!

[@thedude6458]

@@captainbenzie thanks I'm going to need it lol

[@thedude6458]

@@captainbenzie kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZPdm3yPgtNraJIfeature=shared Been using this fit for t0 firestorm, works like a charm. Going to try your coercer fit on my ammar account. Thanks for helping with the fits for these

[@christopherflemming7664]

Garmur got raaange 😊

[@captainbenzie]

Great ship!

[@user-dp4sf5vf1m]

would love to see a vedmak vid :)

[@JRW-ob1jv]

In second room Damavics were repping your target ...that's why #2 went faster and #3 much faster. When they were yellow boxing I think they were targetting each other with their remote reps..

[@franzsperginand113]

Control + R reloads. Shift + R recalls drones.

[@michaelpanfilov8785]

Great stuff, thank you. Just one question, Benzie, how you understand you are using wrong missile type and how you know which one should be used? That moment is in around 13:35 of your video. Thanks again.

[@captainbenzie]

The ship gets bonuses for "Kinetic" missile damage. So you must use missiles that deal Kinetic damage. Only "Scourge" missiles do Kinetic damage.

[@michaelpanfilov8785]

@@captainbenzie I'm sorry, I checked every page of Caracal info and cannot find where it is stated. It only says "5.0 % bonus to Rapid Light Missile, Heavy Missile and Heavy Assault Missile Launcher rate of fire. 10.0 % bonus to Heavy Missile and Heavy Assault Missile max velocity." Or I'm missing something? Thank you

[@captainbenzie]

@@michaelpanfilov8785 don't be sorry, it's me being an idiot. The Caracal does NOT have Kinetic bonuses. That is in fact the Cerberus 😂

[@kriswatson3912]

I'm curious if rapid light would work better with mostly frigate sized enemies or if target painter drones would make heavy missiles apply more damage and be better use than damage from 2 lights.

[@captainbenzie]

Quite possibly. I don't like Rapid Launchers though due to that horrific reload and low ammo 😂 try it and let me know!

[@TheXTrunner]

I dislike the rapid launchers so much too

[@christopherflemming7664]

Yes doing more damage in averafe

[@christopherflemming7664]

G*

[@christopherflemming7664]

Try to handle it 😊

[@titaniummechsx3324]

I tried your fit, but i can't fit the large shield booster cuz not enough powergrid. My caracal is totally destroyed and it's dps isn't high enough to scratch the enemy ships. Guess I'll stick to T0 abyssals

[@captainbenzie]

The fit relies on that for T1. Train Powergrid Management and Weapons Upgrades. Both are vital skills.

[@titaniummechsx3324]

also i am running t1s

[@VileMortality65]

Abyss video ❤❤❤

[@captainbenzie]

😉

[@barryrudolph9542]

All goes well with the Caracal with a 10mn afterburner until you get into a Calm with 3 loot caches. If you are greedy you will spend allot of time going from the furthest loot cache back to the gate and if the timer runs out like it did for me you are dead. Therefore I would strongly suggest running a 50mn afterburner.

[@captainbenzie]

Never go for the Extras. They're so pointless. You'll make more by ignoring them and using that time to run more abyssals.

[@barryrudolph9542]

@@captainbenzie Yea I get that but I am in no hurry. Here is what I am running on my Abyssal Caracal. Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II 50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive Large Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender Large Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender EM Shield Amplifier II Thermal Shield Amplifier II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Hobgoblin II x2 Scourge Light Missile x100

[@thedude6458]

You could start there first, grab the other loot and then head back to the main cache

[@venomaris3313]

Hi, I got the same problem of people who need more powergrid, I need to upgrade to lvl 5 my powergrid and could you name exactly what I need in comp pls, because I dont find it ? Very cool video !

[@captainbenzie]

Make sure to have "Powergrid Management" upgraded and "Weapons Upgrades"/"Advanced Weapons Upgrades" as these reduce PG usage.

[@venomaris3313]

@@captainbenzie ty and why do I have 13km of range and not 30 km ?

[@captainbenzie]

@@venomaris3313 there's a skill for missile range too

[@venomaris3313]

@@captainbenzie ty !

[@krazywulf1983]

@@venomaris3313 missile skills.. i found that out on a non missile char i wanted to test auto fireing wondered why i had 13km range when my caldari has 40km.. support skills under missile. :) missile speed/flight time.. cant remmber exactly

[@Isdyr]

Hey i wanted to ask if you have any vid on running t1 abyss with destroyers, like the Navy catalyst? I built myself one for t1 and it has 232.3 dps so I was wondering if there's anything else needed to run the t1 firestorm with it

[@captainbenzie]

I've not done videos on that yet, except the Mamba, DPS is good, as long as you can apply it and survive.

[@krazywulf1983]

issuess with destroyers is they get hit more then frigs.. about only destroyer people use in T3+ of destroyers is the jackdaw. because you can speed tank more in darks and not worrie about tracking guns etc.. i think most destroyers if ddone rigth can survive 1 wrecking shot. other then that most will run T1-2 frig solo as retribution/hawk/wolf are great for it mkae more then destroyer.. cruiser T3-4 makes more money tho

[@tv5661]

How much isk per hour on average? Also your fit in the description says 300x scourge HA missiles

[@captainbenzie]

You're looking around 5m per run, plus any BPCs you get

[@niira8575]

i just lost an almost fully fitted caracal, because i missed a few points of powergrid to fit the large battery and tried going through a calm electric abyssal with a medium 2. i quickly realized, i am not going to last long as the tank ate through my cap and then i realized i cant flee 😢 ah well... however id like to know what i missed...i tried fitting all modules going with the rockets last and then i was about 2-3 points short on the energy...i had advanced weapon upgrades on lvl 4...do you need 5 here, or is it something else?

[@captainbenzie]

5 is always worth having, and eventually Advanced Weapons Upgrades too

[@niira8575]

@@captainbenzie ah, aight, thought as much...then ill try this again in 29 days :D

[@sharptalons3474]

Around a year ago I took a break and just recently came back. Not sure if CCP have made a change to loot, but previously it was more beneficial to run the low abyssals with a frigate and move into something like a Gila around the tier 3/4. Is that still the case or has loot changed?

[@captainbenzie]

Loot hasn't changed. But if a frigate takes 15 mins and you can do it in 5 in a cruiser, that's the same loot for lower Filament cost. Either way, I'm not here to teach min maxing, but how to get started or to use ships that folks want to fly. As an example, I really dislike the Gila. It's so boring to fly and other ships can do the same job cheaper.

[@sharptalons3474]

@@captainbenzie I'm all for diversity in ships. Gets boring if everybody runs the same ship to complete things. I'll probably start experimenting with new fits myself after I get more comfortable with them.

[@user-fk9ou9jg6m]

Could it be done with a passive tank caracal?

[@captainbenzie]

Maybe? I've not tried tbh. Check AbyssTracker for fits!

[@henrynkh2135]

Sorry Im a newbie, I tried your fit and it says I dont have enough power to run it, any idea what I can do?

[@captainbenzie]

Train Powergrid Management and Weapons Skills 😊

[@titaniummechsx3324]

got around 228 mil isk so i decided to try this fit again

[@maksasila]

I have 200 DPS with this fit only. I guess, there is a skills difference. It is not enough. I lost a couple Caracals already.

[@captainbenzie]

200 DPS is more than sufficient. The minimum for a T1 is 140. This sounds like a piloting issue - what killed you?

[@maksasila]

I don't remember. I used heavy missiles instead of heavy assault.

[@captainbenzie]

@@maksasila long range, lower damage, I'd swap to either Rapid Lights or HAMs

[@darthshadow8145]

I am having trouble fitting the Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery to my my power slot due to insufficient power. Is this just a skill issue or what?

[@captainbenzie]

Yes, you'll need Powergrid Management and Weapons Upgrades. You could also make some of the other modules the lower PG version

[@darthshadow8145]

Thanks 😊

[@Sonofhroft]

Without trading and reputation skills you sell triglavian survey per 92k per one to Concord and sometimes you can sell it in jita and perimeter per 93-94k som better check market and price dudes!

[@gurennishikitype2]

Would rapid light missile II's be an ok substitute till I have skill for heavy assault missiles? With rapid light 2's i have 330 dps. edit: I went and tested it and it works well just a bit awkward with the low ammo count

[@captainbenzie]

Yeah it'll work, I'm just following the CCP fit (and I detest rapid reload)

[@hanysonic]

Hi! How do you get 30km range, i opnly get 17km range same fit

[@captainbenzie]

Skills. Check your Missile Projection and Missile Bombardment specifically. You don't need the exact stats I have. I'm heavily over skilled for the needs of this ship.

[@hanysonic]

@@captainbenzie got it, thanks.

[@charmdisplayzerstorungsger1451]

Hello dear Captian Benzie, i tried today to fitt the same Caracal as you have tto beginn with T1 Abyss, some of my skills are high enough to already fitt some t2 equipment but the items are still the same. The enly thing i dont understand is that you have with that Assault heavy missiles 30km of range, bit i have only 16km of range. I dont know how to increase that to your 30km. Greetings Displayzerstorungsgeraet

[@captainbenzie]

If may be some of the missile secondary skills, like Missile Projection or Propulsion

[@charmdisplayzerstorungsger1451]

@@captainbenzie no i have this skills on lvl 3-4

[@charmdisplayzerstorungsger1451]

these are my skills at the moment. Heavy Assoult missiles 3 Missile Bombardment 4 Warhead Upgrades 3 Guided Missile Precision 3 Target Navigation prediction 3 Missile Launcher Operation 5 Missile Projektion 3 Rapid Launch 4

[@mattstrauchon6756]

What was the loot total on this run?

[@captainbenzie]

You'd have to check the cargo at the beginning and end, I don't recall offhand. The aim of the video was to show how to get started with an easy ship you'll have early. Not minmaxing, just having fun learning Abyssals 😊

[@jasonchampion24]

Have i just been unlucky i ran 2 t3 gamma today and only made 10mill looting only the bio cache. Just felt realy bad.

[@captainbenzie]

Yeah that seems low

[@lifeinthefoyer8687]

THAT SKIN

[@captainbenzie]

No idea where I got it but I love it!

[@user-dp4sf5vf1m]

lol just died in t1 to a leshak, started shooting me 20km before i could lock it

[@captainbenzie]

You MUST spiral in. Don't fly straight at it.

[@user-dp4sf5vf1m]

oh um oops @@captainbenzie

[@jean-claudeallard8359]

MORE ABYSS

[@captainbenzie]

Happy to oblige!

[@HoolsSteam]

I built this, flew into a calm electrical and then couldn't turn on any missile launchers due to needing 95% cap and died

[@captainbenzie]

You entered an Abyssal with your weapons offline??

[@tangolin]

o7

[@captainbenzie]

o7 🚀

[@christopherflemming7664]

Funny thing uu can use a caracal to get a gila😊

[@captainbenzie]

Gila is just so BORING

[@germanhoyos4422]

loot is trash when you run with a cruiser for t1s

[@captainbenzie]

It's about the gameplay, having fun, and using ships you enjoy flying

[@germanhoyos4422]

@captainbenzie no need to get angry... just posted a warning for new folks that may think doing this video is a good idea, since it isnt.

[@Syndicate._]

@@germanhoyos4422 Angry?

[@buttlord2223]

I'm trying to run this build and I'm pretty sure I have the exact fit, but my Power Grid is messing me up. I need 2.6 more PG to put my last missile launcher online. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but it must be a skill somewhere. I only have 21 less total Power than Benzie, but he has a surplus of over 70. I'm certain I'm using the same brands for all the equipment. I have level 5 Power Grid Management, so I don't know what other skill I could use to help with my Power output or requirements. Nevermind, I'm retarded. Needed Advanced Weapons Whatever. Reduces power needs by 2% for turrets n launchers. That also explains why I needed lvl 5 Power Grid Management for the Corax build Loru was using.

[@captainbenzie]

Yeah, that's such an awkward skill! Well done for finding it!!