Caravan Diesel Tow Cars (Are They A Thing of the Past)?

[@HowardB54]

I future proofed just over a year ago by getting a bigger tow car “in case” we got a bigger / heavier van. Changed from petrol 2.2L Toyota RAV4 AWD to VW 3L Diesel Touareg . Massive difference in tow ability and torque and get around 28mpg towing which is same as the RAV. I’ll leave the Lecky cars to Scalextric. Good vlog Phil !

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Howard. I am doing the same. We have a 5 year plan hence wanting new for hopefully less hassle and repair costs 🤞. Thanks Phil 😊

[@totaltouring829]

Well here’s a very important debate. Now, my view. As long as there are HGVs on the road diesel will be available. For many years too. As for the type of tow car the availability and choice will shrink as the EV’s take over market share. While ever caravans , Horse Enthusiasts, Water Sports are available to will the tow car. My only concern is £££££ . Increased fuel prices, Increased Pitch Fees. Good Vlog.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi.This has been a great debate. You do raise a valid point that no one has mentioned. I do feel you are so right. The prices will go up and could price some folk out of the Hobby which be such a shame. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@jgrant1162]

Hi Phil, just a point about buying an almost new car. If buying a vw group car, nearly new, unless it has been specified with the vw towing wiring kit, or has had a vw towbar factory fitted as standard, the plate on the car will show it is not rated for towing and NEVER can be. I would hate for one of your viewers to buy a year old vw, and then find they can never legally tow with it.....

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hello. Well I was not aware of that. I have vw group cars since I passed my test. My new car has a factory fitted tow bar. I guess they are concerned about getting sued maybe. Thanks again Phil 🙂👍

[@cgrexy]

I think you have a valid point but don’t forget the world is upside down at the moment. Supply is a issue in every industry from cars, caravans, building etc. once the cost of living kicks in, people will stop spending and availability will come back. Yes here will be less choice of diesel new from many manufacturers but it’s not going to be the end of the world. People will switch to petrol, hybrid and electric once they understand if they can live with the compromises. After all we are all going to have to change we do things in the future as we can’t afford the old ways.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Chris, You make a good point. My main concern at present is still being able to tow. As the recession bites most of the Caravan and Leisure Vehicle Industries will slow down. The Uk and most of France still do not have enough charging points (when they work). I have managed to secure possibly one of the last New diesel cars that will be made by V.A.G Electric and hydrogen seem to be the Future.🙂 Thanks Phil👍🙂

[@richardchristmas8174]

Hi Phil, I’ve just been through the same exercise. I wanted a nearly new tow car with specific requirements not unlike your own. Having identified a few contenders I could not find my first choice anywhere. Eventually I happened on a 6 month old BMW X3 diesel electric mild hybrid and I have to say it is a wonderful tow car. It should also be future proof if I decide to get a bigger van in the future.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Richard. I am glad you have found a great tow car. I did look at BMW but for me they were a bit too pricey. I have ordered a V.A.G car which suits my needs and my wife is happy with the price which is a bonus. Thank you so much for watching and commenting. Phil👍🙂

[@richardchristmas8174]

Looking forward to seeing your new tow car 😊

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Thanks Richard. I have a few months to wait yet. 🙄 Thanks again Phil

I’ve just got an 11 month old Volvo XC60 PHEV having previously only towed with a Skoda Kodiaq vRS BiTDI. We still have the Kodiaq but it’ll be going in the new year. The petrol PHEV makes way more sense for us. All our local trips/commute are pure electric, and even with current electricity prices it’s 1/3 the cost of petrol per mile. Towing is a dream, it’s got 400bhp so no worries there, gets 20MPG with 1800kg on the back, air suspension is a revelation when towing for me and when on site (with permission) you can charge from the caravan’s external socket for free miles on your local excursions whilst on holiday! Personally I won’t be going back to diesels, I have a EV coming in April (XC40 Recharge) and that will also tow our van for shorter weekend breaks away. We also have just had solar panels installed on the house which makes the EV/PHEV make even more sense - with the cost of electricity right now they’ll be paid off in under 3 years! The caveat to this is you need a driveway to park your car(s) on to enable cost effective charging. For those without this option though I can see the frustration the current market brings with lack of choice. That said, there’s nothing wrong with towing with a petrol - modern turbo charged engines produce LOADS of torque, and if you get a mild hybrid (so no need to plug it in), taking into account the cheaper cost of the fuel compared to diesel as well, you can end up with something very nearly as economical.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Jose. I really like Volvos a great deal but they are very expensive and out of my budget. I like the idea of a Hybrid but my drive is at the rear of my home (don't ask its a poor design) there is no electric in the garage and to charge a car I would need a 150 foot cable. I had a quote to fit electric in the garage and this was £5000 as the house and garage are on different levels. There is no safe way charge from the front of the house either. I agree there is nothing wrong with petrol cars, but they are more costly to fuel. I do a lot of miles each week and also tow a trailer so diesel is more cost effective for me. I suppose it comes down to our own personal needs. Thanks Phil🙂👍

@@lostweekendscaravan wow, that is a crazy cost to add electric to the garage. I only spent a bit more than that on our entire solar install! As you do a lot of miles and tow a trailer derv probably is still the best option for you personally as you say. JCB have done some amazing research on hydrogen ICE (not fuel cell) for plant and commercial use, I suspect that will maybe come to the rescue for people like yourself that can’t go EV/PHEV and have a driving profile of long distance and towing. Check out Harry’s Garage channel, he visited their factory and did a great job of explaining the tech. Cheers 😀

[@mrmeg01]

No why, iv just bought a new diesel suv 30 quid road tax 50mpg and ill be keeping it for 20 yr

[@zombiediscosounds2614]

I tow with a mazda cx5 2.2 diesel. love it and they still make them

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi. I liked the CX5 Diesel. Sadly for me it was a bit too expensive when spec'd the same as what I have ordered. Thanks for watching & commenting. Phil🙂👍

[@paulandsarahcaravanlife]

Hi Phil. Great video. Your right that diesel car/suv's are becoming harder to find. Infact my Kia Sportage 2ltr desiel AWD if I sold it now I would not loose a pennie and I've have it close to a year and half. It's crazy times and I like you would entertain and hybrid or fully electric because of the range. Cheers Paul

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Paul & Sarah. I hope all is well. Yes the prices of used cars has gone up a great deal. My A6 is almost worth what I paid for it 2 years ago. Near me is a huge storage yard full of trucks that are half built as they are awaiting parts to finish them. You keep hold of your Kia it will last you a long time. Thanks Phil.🙂👍

[@CaravanMagic]

Great video, electric has to be the future but the infrastructure needs to improve and we need to see a larger range, especially when towing. Our last vehicle, a diesel like you are looking for, had over a 12 month wait on it! We were really surprised but they did manage to deliver on time. We look forwards to seeing what you have ordered.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Katrina. Thanks for watching. I am hoping that it arrives before Xmas but I doubt it. I am hopeful for the future re Greener Tow Cars but I doubt Electric will lead the way. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@Parknest]

A couple of years ago my Citroen C4 Grand Picasso was damaged in a collision (oncoming driver on the wrong side of the road. Thankfully, I was able to avoid a head-on) and the insurance deemed it to be beyond economical repair so I needed a replacement towing vehicle. I considered either a diesel estate or a 4x4. I ended up buying a 2003 Volvo XC90 which meant I still had a 7-seater and would be handy should I want to get a bigger caravan. I can't afford brand new so I have get what I can afford and I don't want to saddle myself with lots of debt or a monthly lease payment with nothing to show for it. EVs have their place but they will never completely replace the internal combiustion engine. A lot of people fail to realize that the root cuase of tailpipe emisssions is the fuel. Switch to an alternative fuel that pollutes less and the problem is greatly reduced. Throwing away the combustion enigne is NOT the answer.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi You choose well the XC90 is a great car and a very good tow car. Yes the fuel is the key. Porsche are developing a new fuel which can be used in standard engines. If it takes off it will kill the EV Market if they don't all set on fire. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Phil🙂👍

[@PoshcatsCamping]

It does worry me that the world and his wife wants to move to ev’s and our personal preferences are being taken away from us. There’s no ev that can perform as efficiently as a tow car yet and it’s going to be years before infrastructures are in place to serve millions of ev’s. Personally I wouldn’t touch an ev or hybrid yet. If you have a good diesel tow car, hang on to it for as long as you can even if you need to spend more than before to keep it on the road. 🫤 I know this will make me unpopular with the ev / hybrid warriors but we should all be able to express our opinion 🙂 Trev

[@colinrimmer789]

I agree Trev, I’ve just dipped my hand in my pocket and spent £££s on changing the auto trans fluid and servicing the Haldex. Preventative maintenance at 58K. I’ve also started making a record of towed miles to help me manage my maintenance regime. The cars staying with me for a long time.

[@cgrexy]

I understand what you are saying but it’s more than personal choice. Diesel and petrol are heavily pollutants while running and EVs are very little. But you can’t escape economic plus for any country in banning one type of vehicle and making people buy another.

[@Jammyhorse]

Not at all Trev. You are quite correct. The eco warriors have been duped by indoctrination from pseudo science. Just as a reminder when anyone is believing the statement that ‘the consensus of science says so…’ Not that long ago, ‘the consensus of science’ said the Earth was flat. Galileo Galilei proved it was a globe- but was denounced as a heretic and put under house arrest for the rest of his life… take note! Natural climate change has been hijacked as a money making opportunity through guilt tripping a gullible public that they are the cause.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Trev. Happy Belated Birthday. The Bank Manager and I have decided that this New One will remain will us for many years to come and may be our last Tow Car. Like Colin regular maintenance is the key. We noticed in France that there was very few and in some places no charging stations for EV's. Like C B said in their comment synthetic fuels for our current vehicles may be the way forward. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@busdriver6278]

Totally agree with you! Also not everyone has the luxury to be able to afford such virtues!

[@ashhammond]

We bought a brand new 2021 Diesel Ford Ranger to pull our heavy 2000kg twin axel caravan as this suited our needs. Pulls the caravan safely, plenty of room to take all the sporting and family equipment we need for extended trips away and doubles as the daily driver, as my wife works in a job where she has to get there come rain, snow or shine. Don't get me wrong, its not the most efficient tow car but it does everything we need so you cannot have everything. My issue with electric tow cars is the range and subsequently charging on route to a holiday. On Friday we will be making our way from sunny Yorkshire all the way down to hopefully even brighter Cornwall, which will include 1 or maybe 2 fuel stops. With the Ranger, it will be around 15 min, no longer than 30 min if the services are busy to collect fuel. How does this work with electric cars? Most services have single space reverse in charging spots, so you need to leave the caravan unhitched somewhere, not ideal and a pain to re-couple. What happens if all the spaces are full? Charging an electric car is no where near as quick as adding fuel. Our journey on Friday is going to be around 8 hours, using an electric car would make it significantly longer and a lot more frustrating. I also don't plan to site it, we bought a touring caravan for a reason. I'm all for progress and I'm not anti electric, but currently and I think for the foreseeable, electric tow cars for larger Caravans are not going to cut it.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Ash. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I totally agree with your view on Electric cars. They have their use in inner city areas but as far as anything the infrastructure in the Uk is not there. The Services don't really cater for caravans as it is never mind with an electric car. I have bought another diesel a Skoda Karoq as I prefer VAG cars. Like you I bought a Tourer to Tour. Enjoy your trip to Cornwall. Many Thanks Phil👍🙂

[@lindakirk698]

Hi Phil. We have a diesel Dacia Duster (SUV) which we purchased brand new new in 2017 before diesel shutdown statement. We bought our 1st van in 2019. The car will not pull a heavy van as its quite a light car due to how its manufactured. It is exceptionally good and so much cheaper than other brand new cars. We cannot really afford another new car as we are pensioners - hubby purchased car with a pension payout. We are in the position of cannot afford new car & cannot change van to anything bigger. As good as EVs are getting they still don't command the market. We shall have to make do with what we have, look after it, and hope it lasts & sees us out. We are both 70 +.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Linda. Our situation is similar to yours. I am semi-retired. This new tow car will possibly be our last tow car. We bought our Van New when I retired from my former Job. I have no intention of replacing it. Both will suit our needs till we stop touring. I am glad you are both happy with your set up. May you have many happy years touring and making memories together. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@johncartwright8154]

It was hard enough finding a suitable and decent used caravan at the back end of 2021. Dealers had no stock or what little they had in our price range was very tired and overpriced. Previous searching for Tow car was problematic too due to rarity as you state, especially with unravelling the legal requirements regarding weight etc. for this novice! Eventually we found a fully-loaded diesel Passat estate that filled our needs, (manual, no autos to be had) price range and towing ability. 2 weeks later before we had a chance to tow the new van, I was rammed by a 4x4 who didn't see a 'Give Way' sign. The lovely Passat was written off. Even more difficult finding a replacement vehicle. No decent low-mileage diesel auto estates anywhere, so we settled for a saloon Passat. "Why do we need an estate? We aren't having to move the offspring anymore now they have all graduated!" Then we adopted another dog, a greatly shedding gold Labrador carried in a black car interior.....oh dear.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi John. I feel your pain. I hope you got a good price for your formally New to Passat. You are right ours kids fled years ago I don't know why I bought the A6, i am sure it was the price pre stupid sales prices. I think its worth what i paid. Good luck with the Dog. May I suggest a Lilly Brush from amazon. They are great for removing pet hair. I use them when valeting caravans. Thanks Phil.👍🙂

[@colinrimmer789]

The value of used diesel towing suitable cars will increase, the rules of supply and demand will apply. Hope your new wheels arrive in time Phil.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Thanks Colin. I think there is a lack of Cars at present as Folk are holding on to them a lot longer. I hope all goes well for delivery. Thanks Phil👍🙂

[@TheCaravanNut]

In the market you are looking at 12 months or younger you will struggle to get a diesel, most manufacturers are stopping making them. The used market, say 3 or 4 years old is a more realistic search with much more choice on offer. As you said the infrastructure is not set up for EV or hybrid for towing.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Martin. Yep you are so right. My reason for wanting a New or near new Car is I want it to be less hassle for at least 5 years. I can then reassess were I go from there. I have managed to order a New One and it will possibly my last New Car unless I win the Lottery😂. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@kenedkins8967]

Hi Phil, i changed my tow car from a BMW X3, to a Mitsubishi L200. I was very lucky to get the Mitsubishi year 2000, & only 5000mls on the clock. Lucky for me, the Mitsubishi was only used at the main HQ in Cirencester as a pool car. You may ask, why change from a BMW? Well, we needed more space for our future plans for touring. Plus i have got the remaining warranty until 2025. Average 23-25.5MPG. Which i don't is bad for a pick up.(Deisel of course). Stay safe.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Ken. Sounds like you got a bargain with your Pick-up I am never that lucky. I can understand why you changed over to a Pick-up. The A6 is bad enough to park with my knackered knees so for me a Pick-up would be the same. We have gone slightly small this time as we do not see Alfie our Grandson as much since he moved last Year. There is now really only Juliet and Myself so the space in my choice of Car is more than enough. Thanks for joining in with the comments & watching Phil🙂👍

[@alexholmes3]

A few interesting points in this video. I personally tow with a 2.0 petrol audi A4, and yes its not the most economical either solo or when towing but it does the job just fine and is cheaper to run as a daily driver.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Alex. I think a few Folk are Towing now with Petrol Cars. I have a few A4's Avant's loved them but they are low for Juliet hence me getting rid of the A6. I suppose we choose what we are used to. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@alexholmes3]

@@lostweekendscaravan thats a fair point Phil. Im looking to replace my A4 with a Q5, if it wasn't for the 2.0 petrol being even less economical in a heavier suv i would choose petrol, unfortunately it will have to be diesel this time

[@lostweekendscaravan]

@@alexholmes3 My thoughts are the same. Good luck finding one with low miles and less than £35K I could not find one near me. Thanks Phil🙂

[@lensmanonline]

Hi Phil and Juliet hope you're well. We're in the same situation, got rid of the L200 as it going to cost rather a lot of money to get it through the mot, so bought the 5 series BMW diesel as a interim replacement, although we can't afford a brand new car been looking at 3yr vehicles and just like you we can't find anything suitable. We're even considering selling the caravan, so car type wouldn't be so important. Best wishes stay safe Jon and Karen

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Jon & Karen. It is getting difficult at present. A lot of folk are holding on to their Diesel Tow cars at present. I hope you find something soon. It would be a shame if you had to sell the van. Thanks and take care Phil🙂👍

[@Lacebylad]

In exactly the same position. My current tug is the Ford Tourneo which is basically a Transit with seats. Perfect in every way for us and is so useful in many ways as well as a brilliant tow car. Also not classed as a van so therefore is not restricted speed wise like commercial vehicles although national limits are rapidly disappearing nationwide but that’s another story!! So off to the dealers and get offered an amazing part ex against a new model except the only available engine is 150ps which has borderline capability for towing 2000kg plus as you say, a nine month wait. Three weeks pondering what to do and get a call from the dealer to say Ford have closed the order book for new vehicles as a new model is coming next year. I suspect the engine choices will not include a 170 ps manual diesel and the Phev will not tow so it looks like all electric for me depending on price. I suspect 120 miles ish when towing which for most trips will just about be ok. Watch this space

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Mike. It is a tough thing to now decide on. The Electric Transit has had mixed reviews I require a longer range as we plan on having a few Caravan Hols to Europe so Diesel for me is the way to go. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@32_bits]

Wonder why Landrover not included in your list? Also whst are your thoughts for manusl vs auto?

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi. Landrover are too expensive to buy and run. My best mate used to build the Discovery I say no more. Re Cost if money was no object I would have bought an Audi Q5 over L-R. Having had both manual & Auto for towing I would chose Auto and have chosen an Auto Box for my new Car. It's far easier to tow and reverse. Hope this helps. Phil🙂👍

[@robswiseways5697]

Hi Phil, Yes I think manufacturers are slowly moving away from pure diesel and petrol forcing people who want a new car towards hybrids and then ultimately EV. I will be keeping my 3.0 TDi A6 allroad for a little longer as it tows brilliantly. Did you order any options such as a factory tow bar? Looking forward to the big reveal 🤔but not for a few months though 🤐. Interesting subject. Cheers, Rob

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Rob. Trying to find a Car Prompted this video. I have order a few extra bits including a tow bar. Thanks Phil.🙂👍

[@gavinstreetie1473]

Oh my look at the comments must have struck a nerve here Build more windmills they work so well anyways you knows my feelings But good question lots of comments shows we ain’t the only ones !!

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Gav. I knew this would raise a few comments. Yes there are some on the same wave length. Thanks Phil👍🙂👍

[@alanarmitstead6545]

We made the decision last year that our next tow car would be petrol. Our car is our daily driver and covers short distances commuting in town, so the diesels are just no use what with continual issues with emmision control parts. We now have a XC60, 250bhp petrol, tows our twin axle effortlessly and is achieving 19mog. Our previous diesel tow vehicle achieved 24mpg. So with the high cost of diesel over petrol at the pumps, the volvo costs 37p a mile in fuel, the diesel cost 34p a mile. Factor in the diesel vehicles low residuals and higher initial cost and they just don't make sense anymore.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Alan this could a smart move on your part. I worked out I would need a 2.5litre petrol car to tow mine plus my work trailer.the fuel cost per mile would be to costly for me. Thanks Phil 😊

[@alanarmitstead6545]

@@lostweekendscaravan our van is plated at 2000kg, 2L engine pulls it better than the diesel pick up does! Give it a couple of years and diesel will be finished in the car market. Plus diesel price is going to go up at the pumps due to increased demand for power generation due to the gas shortage. Its currently about 27p a litre higher than petrol on the wholesale market, but the fuel companies have not passed that on yet. Its scary seeing the car do 19mpg, but overall, its cheaper to run than diesel for us because the car only does 7000 miles a year, so that's just over £200 extra in petrol over diesel. Yet the diesel car would have cost about £3000 more to buy new, if it was available!

[@lostweekendscaravan]

@@alanarmitstead6545 Hi Alan that is an interesting point. We do about 12,000 miles a year. We are also have several trips into Europe planned. I will give your example some thought. Thanks Phil👍

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

That is my worry about caravanning in general. We have the Kia Sorento that is nearly 8 years old. So we have looked at other options BUT it's things like your Audi which is a lovely car but for us way too expensive now. I even looked at the Audi A6 as better MPG than current car but the rise in price is soo much it doesn't seem worth it. We did a while a go consider the 8ft but given that cars are getting smaller diesel engines(1.6) that is no good or Hybrid it's becoming harder. Even things like the Skoda Superb is good MPG but it's far too light for towing we feel.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Paul. It is a concern especially for folk how enjoy caravanning but have a limited budget. EV's are so expensive I cannot see them being any cheaper soon. The A6 does return good towing mileage but is a pain to park in modern carparks due to the narrow parking bays. If you are thinking of replacing yours do plenty of research. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@HitchUpAndTow]

Our new tow car, which should be ready by xmas is petrol . Never towed with a petrol car before, lets hope I haven't made a big mistake lol

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Mark. I am hoping mine will be ready around the same time but I doubt it. You will get less MGP with your Petrol Car but short none towing runs may work out cheaper on the whole. Thanks an enjoy your New car. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@paulefc1971]

Sold my BMW X3 and got a Ford Ranger, they aren’t for everyone but it gives us a car capable of towing a heavy van, with space inside for the family and a huge payload, especially as the payload of our Swift is pretty crap (160KG and can’t be upgraded, then add in the motor cover etc and it doesn’t leave you much before you are hitting your maximum caravan weight of 1600kg), i tend to work from home now so the only time i really use my car is for towing, so might as well have one that’s built for the job. Diesel engines are becoming smaller and cars are getting lighter, EV’s just aren’t where id want them to be for towing, i would want one with at least a 250 mile range once your caravan is attached - they’re nowhere near that at the minute, it does seem that caravan owners will have to make some hard choices soon, especially those that can’t afford brand new EV’s, those choices are: 1) site your caravan on a seasonal pitch 2) lighter caravan and and EV 3) keep running older diesels 4) sell up The other downside to this is that how long before people are struggling to sell bigger twin axle caravans because nobody can get a tow car to tow it?

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Paul. I have consider a pick-up but still in this (so called modern age) some sites class them as commercial and will not let you on. This I disagree with but they make the rules. I totally agree with your conclusion there are 4 solutions none of which I am interested in. The SUV I have chosen will tow the van but its at the top in terms weight to Van. I think most twin and 8 foot wide vans will end up being sold a seasonal pitch vans only in the near future and include used ones. Thanks for you thoughts and watching Phil.🙂👍

[@paulefc1971]

@@lostweekendscaravan I suppose it’s no different with twin axle caravans, a lot of campsites apparently don’t allow them either but the reality is they don’t enforce it, I suspect it’s more to do with a certain clientele and it gives campsites the ability to choose whether they allow them onto their sites or not, incidentally though, I believe that once you fit a roller cover to a Ford Ranger, it is no longer classified as a commercial vehicle due to the reduction of its maximum payload to less than 1000kg (which I believe is how a commercial vehicle gets its definition.)

[@lostweekendscaravan]

@@paulefc1971 Hi Paul I think you are correct. It does depend on the Customers in question. Yes adding a cover does change thing for a Pick-up. Thanks Phil🙂

[@stev5376]

I do think that we as diesel drivers are being pushed to other alternatives especially when looking at the current fuel prices, the difference between petrol and diesel was very little as now it's around 20p a litre more for diesel. For now I'll have to stick with what I've already got but who knows what the future will bring as they'll not be anything the will tow 1500kg and return an average 33mpg when towing

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Ste. Yes the cost per mile between petrol and Diesel is closing. I find the A6 has a great MPG when towing and driving but it has just got too impractical for us now. I think diesel fuel will be around for a while longer unless all Lorries some how go electric soon. Thanks for your comment & watching. Phil🙂👍

[@stev5376]

We would need a longer range on electric commercial vehicles for any change and despite huge improvements I don't think it's going to happen soon. But we are seeing more towns and cities bringing in clean air zones so I do wonder if we'll see companies using smaller electric vans and doing more frequent deliveries to reduce their daily costs

[@davidhartley2373]

If you're not brand conscious look at Ssangyong. We bought one 5 year's ago and are now on our 2nd one.

[@paulp6804]

Yes Ssangyong are definitely worth a look, I bought one three years ago new probably one of the best vehicles I've had for towing and excellent value for money.

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

I considered a Ssangyoung but the the MPG is attrocious for a newer car so that puts a lot of people off.

[@paulp6804]

MPG it's all down to the right foot😄

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

@@paulp6804 it’s down to an older engine they use. We get ok mpg out of Sorento but still expensive to run.

[@paulp6804]

Still euro6 compliant and improved economy 2.2diesel really has some torque can't have it all ways

[@Gary-UBIQUE144]

I will stick to my Freelander 2, great tow car. I’ve no inclination to get an EV now nor I doubt in the future.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi You should stick to what you like the best and what suits you and your setup. Good for you. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@jackjoyce1744]

What about Diesel PHEV? Mercedes and Volvo make them and they look like the ideal choice for caravans.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Jack both are good choice but they are a bit too pricey for my wallet and the Bank Manager would not sign off on them. 😌 Thanks for the suggestion Phil 👍🙂

[@cb737]

I am hanging onto my 2010 diesel for as long as it lasts. If synthetic fuel emerges as the front runner you may even be able to keep your existing car. I don't think ev cars are sustainable or practicle, which in my opinion is why there is such poor investment and thought process that goes into charging stations. A new ev today will be worthless in a few years as tech moves on. Be careful!

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi CB. At present I have no intention of buying an EV. Like you I am hoping that synthetic fuel does come along. This new car I have ordered will be hung on to for such a long time to come. Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@daverowlands2948]

I tow a 2012 sterling eccles ruby @1.7tonnes with a 2010 ML300 and you can't tell its even on the back and towing and get 30mpg on long run motorway @60mph,can't fault it at all....diesel have so much torque etc

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Dave. I totally agree with you. There is nothing available to replace Diesel at present. I have bought a Skoda Karoq 2.0 TDI and so far i am very happy with it. Thanks for commenting and watching. Phil👍🙂

[@keithgrundy1429]

Hi. Diesel will remain until they are forced of the road in 10 years plus time. Electric is a short term solution. Diesel hybrid only have a short ev range , so no Diesel are not a thing of the past.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi Keith. I do hope you are right. There seems to be less choice when looking at New Ones. Thanks Phil👍🙂

[@adiwilson42]

I'm looking at DS7 with petrol 225 brake

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi. Sounds like a great choice. Whats the towing MGP going to be? Thanks Phil🙂👍

[@adiwilson42]

@@lostweekendscaravan if you want the diesel it was 57 to the gallon wears. The petrol does 47 to 37 miles per gallon

[@steveone9375]

Mazda cx5

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Yep I consider one but the waiting list was too long and I would have missed half this year’s season. Cheers Phil 👍🙂

[@scotchegg6422]

Can’t be a Tiguan as they are 12-18 months.

[@lostweekendscaravan]

Hi. Yep The waiting list for Tiguan is 18 months to 2 years we were told. It narrows it down to 2? Thanks Phil😉👍