Carbon Fiber Tail Booms

Parts links below (valid 1/16):
RadicalRC:
Round CF tubing: www.radicalrc.c...
Square/square tubing: www.radicalrc.c...
Music wire pushrods: www.radicalrc.c...
Home Depot:
3M Heavy Duty Mounting Tape: www.homedepot.c... (large rolls also available)
Corner guard 1 1/8": www.homedepot.c...
Corner guard 5/8": www.homedepot.c...

[@eternalfire1244]

Between you and the Flite Test forums my scratch building has progressed way further than I could have ever dreamed. Loved these ideas and for sure I will be implementing some of them on my next builds. Keep up the awesome videos. :)

[@ericnielsen9574]

I know the Experimental Airlines designs have always been about cheap or free materials and ease of construction. Ed, you got me back into the hobby with your building techniques, Thank you. I picked up a cheap 3d printer and have been using it to create servo mounts and tail adaptors similar to your corner molding. Not everyone has access to the 3D printing and your methods are wonderful. 3D printers have come down to the "affordable" realm and fit into this hobby well. If you do have access to 3D printing, I recommend giving it a try. It's been fun learning the cad software and actually fabricating custom parts for individual tasks. Keep the videos coming and thanks again!

[@robaust3049]

Hi Ed, great to see you back. Nice practical approach to the use of the booms and can't wait for more details on the discuss. Love the pull/pull.

[@lasersbee]

Some great ideas on attaching those CF tubes. Would have liked to see some of those designs in the air.

[@ExperimentalAirlines]

+lasersbee I wish too. Here's the bummer: I'm reduced to videoing with my iPhone, having gradually killed off all my proper video cameras. Once I re-acquire a camera with zoom, I will make it right with the flying videos.

[@lasersbee]

+ExperimentalAirlines I hear you... Sounds like a plan

[@Trainmaster1907]

+ExperimentalAirlines peter from flite test worked there

[@garrison9078]

​@@ExperimentalAirlines, Hi ! Kindly reply to my query. Is SINGLE 10 mm SQUARE tube with round interior strong enough or in need to arrange 2 tubes side by side fused together by epoxy glue to achieve high strength. Boom protruding out of fuselage will be around 20 inches in length. Warm Regards

[@dfo105055]

Very very nice. I love to tinker in my garage with the crashed plane parts and the material that I find commonly around the hardware store is a positive challenging to me. Thanks for the info.

[@alcoxy]

Good to see someone doing a video on ideas for connecting CF tubing. Often a difficult situation.

[@Bulgie]

Ed, good to see you posting valuable videos again. Thank you. We never got to fly together before you left AZ...Hope you're settled in VA and ready to make more videos!

[@sailorjohn2224]

Appreciate the fine example of displaying the required FAA registration number plus the AMA number indicating financial responsibility .

[@84npor]

Great video Ed. Glad with your return. I was missing your videos.

[@chinookmech]

I'm glad your are back Ed...the ideas are stacking up

[@donwall7906]

Thank you. This is a very well presented vid by someone with engineering orientation and technical communication skills. It works for me!

[@walterdennisclark]

One advantage of using double stick tape in construction is that it can be removed with alcohol. It's messy but repair is easier when major components are assembled as you have done this way.

[@richardmurray6477]

Ed, You da man! Thanks for figuring out the carbon fiber rod stuff. Nicely done. I like the corner guard and aluminum angle usage. I think you nailed a whole new Experimental Airlines design series!!! Cheers

[@kabturek]

You can also use plywood for the joining plate

[@grahamrdyer6322]

I'm not a convert to carbon tubes, they seem to twist to much, but you did have some (quite a lot) of idea's that I will put in to practice, Thanks Ed for putting this up.

[@roscocsa]

Awesome to see you back!

[@donwall7906]

Very well presented. Excellent ideas illustrated. Thank you.

[@liamcoddington5712]

I used your techniques on my first scratch build... and it flies better than my apprentice. thanks

[@greedyg76]

I've been using corner guards in my scratch builds for a long time - great stuff!

[@jacobjhogan]

Thanks Ed, I'd like to learn more about your discus launch glider. I've been wanting one but they're so expensive.

[@calvin_E]

Genius engineering sir. I know what i'm building when this snow melts.

[@andrewmcphee8965]

Hi Ed, this video inspired me to build a cf stick plane based on some of your ideas mentioned here. I've just maidened it, needs some fine tuning. But I'll post a link to details about it later.

[@waleswideman1]

i attach the tail boom to the fusolodge with a installation foam block by drilling a hole and glueing the spar in it. then sliding the blick in the rear of the fusolodge rock solid without cf

[@robh9079]

great vid - using a 10mm boom I have put my servos up front in the fuz, run the snake tubes down the middle of the boom, and drilled exits near the end - the reduced strength compensated by a 1/32 ply tail 'tray'. I really like the reusability and disassembly of your system though.

[@geodezix]

Try inserting the 8 mm tube in several inches of a 10 mm square tube (it's a perfect fit) with some hot glue. That gives you a flat surface to attach plate or fuselage.

[@SnapPunchRobert]

+geo dezix What a great idea

[@StaffordAllan]

Hi Ed - Another great video. I'd really love to see your complete DLG design. It's an area that I'd like to explore, and I'd be happiest getting started at least with a scratch built rather than very expensive purchased glider.

[@mlkalr3b1]

it nice to see you again

[@alejandroa.menyhart5346]

Marvelous! This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much, dear Sir.

[@chrissorlie6497]

Fantastic engineering!!!! Thank you so much !!!

[@microflite]

Excellent video! Thanks for the great ideas!

[@danogle9927]

Excellent video Ed.Good info.( glad your back up and running )

[@MyBigThing2010]

You could just drill a hole through the plate and the tube and drop in a pin AND that would stop rotation and new way more reliable than glue. Also you can reuse the tube without having a glue mess on it.

[@ddegn]

Have you made the jump to 3D printing yet? I finally did myself and it's extremely useful for making mounting hardware. Thanks for all the fun videos you've shared.

[@luispozas6191]

Thank you for all the good ideas!

[@Abderrahmane_Aitouche]

Y'a t-il une place avec vous ? Dans votre valeureuse baraque

[@StephenTack]

Elegant solutions, sir!

[@cynr100]

Thanks Ed, the info is very informative and greatly appreciated. You are making this hobby simpler and simpler, did I say how much you are appreciated, think I did but just in case I'll say it again, thankyou :-)

[@johanneslugt2951]

Great video! Will definitely try it. Thank you.

[@Martin-mz9ne]

Always new idea. Great vid, Ed. Thanks for sharing!

[@cjbubeck]

Great video Ed. Thanks. Any ideas on how to work with the plastic corner bead material? Does it have to be heated in order to bend without breaking or splintering; and the best way to make clean cuts?

[@tariqyounus3880]

Very nice video. Could pls guide how to make 1.5 m DLG GLIDER ? Because carbon fiber DLG GLIDER are very very expensive . Hope u make some good video how to foamy DLG GLIDER

[@JonathanTaulbee]

these are awesome sir! candidate wait to give it a try!

[@Side85Winder]

Have you tried a V-tail design plane the corner guard would be perfect for making a V-tail design.

[@VTOLKits]

You have very good ideas ! Thanks for the video.

[@654comet]

Thanks for detailed video , it’s very informative , got good ideas to make a stick plane , I was thinking to make a stick plane from a 12 sqmm wood rod , This video will definitely be useful , Thanks again

[@joewoodchuck3824]

How does pricing compare to store bought arrows? Im using aluminum arrows from walmart btw. Sometimes i can even make use of the 8-32 threaded insert where the head screws in.

[@OskarKopecky]

What happened to your left hand??

[@hound696]

Awesome job!

[@deanedeane4318]

Thankyou for sharing your great ideas 😉😎

[@mdriyasatali]

Very nice

[@JamesManimal]

thank you for the details!

[@jerrellthieke87]

wouldn't it be easier to use the square carbon fiber tube?

[@mikewofford2198]

What kind of plastic are you using

[@WhatisTabal]

how about assembling a V tail on a small carbon tail boom??

[@pawanv86]

Chad Gacs you could use the L shaped plastic at a 45 degree angle.

[@pawanv86]

Chad Gacs you could use the L shaped plastic at a 45 degree angle.

[@WhatisTabal]

the design is a 100 degree angle for the V tail.

[@pawanv86]

Heat the plastic with a hotairgun and bend it to about 100-110 degrees and finally EPOXY the carbonfiber right at the vertex of the "V". Remember to sand the carbonfiber at the end or else it wont bond properly.

[@esafonov]

What are the advantages of carbon fiber tail? I think carbon tube with its fastening - always has a bent in flight and tail hanging out and vibrates A box-shaped tail made of foam remains the best so far!

[@Raj_yadav582]

those are, how many design tails

[@barrosnpor]

Awesome man!! just learnirg a lot here!! Keep on going!

[@MickB235]

Do you find any signal interference because of the carbon fibre?

[@redtale6527]

I found these Chinese carbon fiber fishing poles off ebay are a cheap source of carbon fiber tubing. The lengh of the section

[@robertwioch3691]

Hello I would like to know how you made your Fuselage for this Video! I want to try to make this. Could you help me out. Thanks. I love all your video's #1 nice. your good at this!

[@TFWS6]

Drill two holes and then cut into the holes from the end. Much cleaner looking and stronger.

[@TFWS6]

If you don't have the equipment to make a good looking cut like he does that is.

[@burtisaac1000]

Awesome 😎!

[@snaprollinpitts]

nice tutorial, thanks Ed!!!

[@mwalton7951]

Beautiful

[@sidhvin12]

I'd like to know if there was any yaw effect because of the offset position of the vertical stabilizer.

[@ExperimentalAirlines]

+Sidhvin DM No discernible difference in flying, though I'm sure there is a tiny effect.

[@rva1945]

You saved my day!

[@gfortiz5544]

If I may ask what dia. Push rods do you use?

[@christianjonatasgrosch9518]

Great, thank you!

[@lachlanharrigan6781]

Would this work well on an axon?

[@felixFPVDrone]

Great information!!!

[@javieruriel]

It is safe to work with fg?

[@miodice3]

Awesome tips thank you!!!

[@mr.k1177]

I live in Arizona and it seen like you too. Is there a chance I can build my first plane with you. I can pay for the hour if you want. Please and thank you.

[@mateobrainardo4770]

Arizona is a large state, homme!

[@Abderrahmane_Aitouche]

[ Bravo [ l'ingénieur .

[@RoboTekno]

7:50 You should probably block your FAA number in videos.

[@RcBuddy]

Nice video, and good ideas. Tip: you (and we) would be having great benefits from owning a 3D printer for your designs ;o)

[@1MIC2GO]

Whoa, I don't know how I found you. But, thanks for sharing. I've been looking at glider types for a bit and this looks like a great opportunity as a diy project instead

[@bobbarker1667]

your really awsome wish u were my dad

[@كثيرالطيب]

احسنت 🇰🇼a good knowledge

[@robertojames7904]

All I can say is GET A 3D PRINTER!!!! Printing small attachment fixtures to transition from carbon fiber tubing to foam components would require only a small printer and they're getting less expensive and better every day. The possibilities are endless. Once you invest a little time using a free CAD program to design the part, you can print the component while you do something else. Three D printing is slow, but pretty much something which doesn't require a great deal of attention. Then it's a matter of assembly along with a spot of adhesive and, bingo, you're done. The act of "fabrication", which includes layout, cutting, sanding, and custom fitting is all but eliminated. Keep in mind that duplicating a design using the techniques called out in this video means that you're starting all over again with the same tedious cutting, sanding, and fitting routine. With 3D printed transition components, you simply print a new part. The design work is already done. Or, even better, print a spare part or two at the same time you make the first one. You gain a great deal from the standpoint of aerodynamics, weight savings, ease of assembly, accuracy of alignment, strength, appearance, and just about every other design consideration you can think of.

[@spencerboaz2385]

The guys at Flight Test and Andrew Newton and your site are my go to sites . I love all your sites as I am a bit new to planes and you guys have the best build videos . I have noticed all of you bend a lot of plastic of all kinds . This is a tool I use for that and if you don't have one you may want to take a look . www.harborfreight.com/plastic-welding-kit-with-air-motor-and-temperature-adjustment-96712.html

[@seanpaula8924]

Hmm....interesting :)

[@ExtraFungus]

Faa Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, section 336. You've been fooled by the FAA.

[@ExperimentalAirlines]

+Josh Bishop Better I have my stupid little sticker in case Johnny Law shows up at the field and fight the conflict with the 2012 law in court. Just playing the game.

[@ExtraFungus]

+ExperimentalAirlines Your right, it will save you some hardship, but should you go through the hardship, you'd be able to cash in. It's only a matter of time before the FAA gets slapped with a massive suit from someone who is fined or arrested, the FAA won't win. Obviously not everyone would want to go through that kind of disruption in their life but the first one to do it will be doing the rest of the hobby a huge favor. I plan on printing out section 336 and putting it on my aircraft but at the same time I chose where I fly carefully and avoid attention.

[@MrSilverback62]

+ExperimentalAirlines Some battles are worth fighting. This ain't one. Ham radio has far more hurdles and restrictions. The sheer number of pilots (including a tiny subset of fools) makes some form of testing and licensing almost inevitable.

[@ExtraFungus]

+Chuckles a the regulation needed to happen but the FAA doesn't have the authority. This is absolutely a battle worth fighting, it goes much deeper than whether it should or shouldn't happen. Law breaking is law breaking, the FAA isn't exempt because they failed at enforcing pre-existing laws.

[@DallusDaPwnage]

Way to expensive for shipping to Australia, I'll stick to ebay

[@johnnyllooddte3415]

way toooo complicated for me..,,,duct tape