The NEW Honda Pilot... BETTER than the Telluride??

[@scot_smith]

Nice! Always liked the Pilot since first gen but I guess 50K is the new 30K

[@noahpickerill3749]

Dude fr. I'd pay 40-45K but 53K is pushing it too far

[@dexterroble6930]

I think it’s the elite trim which is the most expensive I think.

[@danielwise8325]

Real

[@bigdap100]

🤔$53??? Uh, no.

[@lrr1952]

Not a huge increase. We bought a 2018 Pilot Touring and its MSRP was ~$45K. The Elite was maybe about $3K more. My wife loves this car. Gets around 28-31 MPG when we are mostly doing highway travel. In city maybe 24. We just replaced the factory Continentals (hated them in snow) and went with Falken Wildpeak in one size up 255/50-20. Great on Colorado hills and dirt (I do not intend to do off-roading!). 😀 I’d consider a new one but my wife loves it too much to trade. I kept our 2004 Pilot as my “truck”. Just getting broken in at 175K miles. Maintain these vehicles and they will last forever.

[@sandwich_in_wonderland]

Owned a 2007 Pilot and now a 2011. They're good SUVs, extremely reliable. I follow the maintenence schedule and never had any issues.

[@alphafiddlesticks5623]

How many miles did you put on them?

[@maxism5454]

​@@alphafiddlesticks5623 considering it's an old pilot, probs more than 100k

[@harveymushman4190]

Any of the pilots are good. They all have the Honda's super reliable j-series engine. Same engine in all the pilots, 13-18' rdx, mdx, tlx, 08-17' accord, Ridgeline, Odyssey I have 193,000 miles on 12' accord 3.5 auto 5-speed. Newer Hondas got 6-speed autos, then the zf9 9-speed(customers complained), now onto Honda's in house 10speed. already used in Odyssey and 2.0t accords Now in new pilots and mdx

[@RandyAndrada]

Nice! I got a 2006 Honda Pilot with 222k Miles on Mine. I hope I can make it to 300k!

[@sandwich_in_wonderland]

@@alphafiddlesticks5623 the 2007 I bought it at 130k miles. Unfortunately, i got tboned and was a total loss at 202k miles. My 2011 I bought it at 120k miles and still running strong today at 150k miles

[@havokmdk2181]

removable second row needs to be standard on all suv

[@ChadTV-vi7lk]

wish there was an arm rest left even a skinny one

[@dtsec]

I'd buy if it was $43K, but not $53K.

[@Metalpazallteway]

Looking at my economy I'd buy it if it was at 33k not 34k +

[@a-jerk]

​@@Metalpazallteway I'd buy it if it was 7k not 34k

[@Light23K]

I’m sure you can buy a cheaper model for $43k, this is ELITE.

[@occckid123]

​@@Light23Kthat's what u was thinking. Get the base model. Its 43k...

[@T1ny_J1mmy]

@@occckid123base model is 38k wdym?

[@merica7050]

53k plus dealer scams of course

[@T1ny_J1mmy]

Fr, saw one listed for 61k

[@jonm610]

Prob will buy tesla Y to avoid dealers. Would prefer gas or hybrid.

[@vulnicuric]

they tried charging my mom 62k for one but we negotiated it down to 47k

[@user-qg3rf8bi8c]

@@vulnicurichow?

[@RicTone]

50k. That use to be Acura money

[@WindAGgamingstudios]

It’s the elite trim

[@odawgg_420]

Love my 08 pilot, almost 300k miles on her and still going strong. Really want that 2023 Honda pilot trailsport.

[@chepinchan]

We just traded our ‘22 Telluride for a Pilot EX-L. Pilot drives so much better and smoother. You can’t even feel it shifting gears. Handling, steering, road feel is outstanding! Telluride has some serious low end torque issues and jerky transmission compared to Pilot.

[@mauriciomendez1912]

Yeah the V6 is true, tried, and constantly improving...

[@godzilla2021fan]

The new tellurides are a lot better

[@bnssoftware3292]

2024 Telluride is light years better

[@SWAGXICAN100]

53k for a Honda is insane! This was luxury brand cost before and during the pandemic 😒

[@Icetillidie]

The design will age well. Thats something honda does better than any car company, i think.

[@w-josh]

According to alot of people, that doesn't go for the new Accord. I'd say it's alr, but Honda's decision to remove the 2.0 L engine made me really disappointed. Some people would like a car that's a bit fast, and can still be very practical and have great MPG.

[@mrcactus245]

@@w-josh the only problem I have with the new accord is no 2 liter turbo and 10 speed auto

[@ShonTolliverMusic]

I wouldn't but any car at $53k, but I do find this attractive.

[@Jedi391]

This is the Elite, you don’t need the Elite. Go down about 2 trims and you’ll save a bunch and get everything you need.

[@asielgonzalez845]

Times have changed dude. 50k is the new 30k

[@ShonTolliverMusic]

@@asielgonzalez845 and wages are still roughly the same.

[@AJ-gz6qd]

No way I would pay 50k

[@mkperez609]

Went from 2022 lease to 2015 pilot purchased under 10,000 bucks with 82,000 miles. Best decision ever.. no monthly payment it’s a beautiful thing.. plus my 2015 have entertainment screens that allows both of my kids to enjoy a movie while we take long trips. Just wish they were better on gas but everything can’t be perfect.

[@lrobie123]

money no longer used for car payment can be used for way more important things than a car payment. i.e saving for college or retirement

[@Sazonman]

Most idiot decision I ever read🤣😂🤣😂

[@Sazonman]

Most idiot decision 🤣😂🤣😂

[@bLacksheep988]

whiich one is quieter on the highway?

[@DirkCannon]

Yes hands down would buy one, it's a honda, known for reliability and longevity

[@al151]

Elite used to have a blue ray player.

[@MsCranberryCookie_rawr_]

Mine still has it but I hate it 😅

[@JasonWilldaGod]

Saw one in person last weekend. This trim is really nice inside

[@MrPsalms207]

That's really nice that you can completely remove the 2nd row middle seat. But too bad the outer seats don't have an arm rest once the middle seat is removed. 😕

[@NickLarkins505]

They do actually have arm rests.

[@MrPsalms207]

@@NickLarkins505 oh, ok. That's good then. I saw in another video where they removed the center console, and it looked like there were no arm rests. It's good that it does have arm rests though. Otherwise, that could get uncomfortable on long trips.

[@NJAlvarado612]

Sold back my pilot after experiencing idle stop issues. Honda is ignoring the class action lawsuit.

[@WalkingWake______]

Who will drive the plane then... 😷

[@sizzlacalunji]

I assume you have the older Pilot. What specifically was the issue?

[@NJAlvarado612]

@@sizzlacalunji 2020 pilot. Start/stop would fail and cause the vehicle to stop entirely in the middle of the street on a regular basis

[@Cook_And_Go]

​@@NJAlvarado612theres a recall that fixes the issue. My '17 pilot never had any issues but i brought it in anyways to check it out. Now it NEVER shuts the engine at a stop. I guess their 'fix' for the problem was just to completely remove the feature

[@MrKevin920]

I had a 2019 elite I hate the start stop I always turned it off

[@msjuicybre3]

I just picked mine up 2 weeks ago and I love it. I had a 2016 pilot exl

[@Capo_jc21]

No rear infotainment systems for the kids?

[@mark_fn4762]

@@Capo_jc21that’s only on the touring trims and above

[@fgonzalez78959]

Been a yr how you feel now about it?

[@hr2401]

Palasade killed this class

[@G-Rated]

It’s over rated.

[@aranmawlood123]

I’m a Honda guy that works at a Kia. This looks like it might give the Telluride some real competition. However, I do think the SX Prestige looks more premium. That 7 passenger capability is very nice on the Pilot though.

[@danielwise8325]

I never liked Hondas but I recently bought a 2001 Honda pilot and I enjoy driving it everyday. Now I need this new one definitely!!!

[@RobbiePfunder]

honda pilot started in 03

[@AoCabo]

People complaining about the price must not have been to a car dealership in the past year--or been outside. Have you checked the price of eggs or your utility bills lately? Time to ask your boss for a raise.

[@eggheadegghead]

To answer your question, I don't think anybody buy cars/suvs as frequently as buying eggs or milk.....so, that is understandable they when they start looking at the car price nowadays, they got sticker shock.......

[@timpoos4635]

LOL no company will give a raise that is significant. They may only give you just enough to not leave

[@CB0915]

Thanks Biden

[@D0NTsmokeCRACK]

Just because the price of something goes up doesn’t mean you can’t be upset about it. Doesn’t mean you have to pay that amount.

[@anthonyk423]

The mark ups on cars last year was worse and if you want a 3 row seater suv your gonna pay at least $39K. The $50k is for all the fancy stuff

[@jamesjirik2245]

It looks really nice I like that. It’s not a turbo charge. It’s a real vehicle with real power and real comfort for that price tag is really high. They’re making a lot of money off that vehicle a ton.

[@blackbearhomestead]

As a native Floridian, the love bug grill 😬

[@2025hondacivic]

As long as you don’t mind the price this is pretty much a perfectly versatile car, great luxury features, space, power, capability and driving experience. This is a great car, my mom bought a new Pilot and owned it from 2007-2021, so many memories in it

[@hypernewlapse]

Wish this came to europe, we’re missing so many cool midsize 7 seaters (Honda Pilot, VW Atlas, Mazda CX90, Toyota Grand Highlander…)

[@MsCranberryCookie_rawr_]

I bought mine in Munich from a seller that imports those cars.

[@BethSJ]

I bought my 2008 pilotex 4x4 for $23k, I can't believe today's prices

[@bnssoftware3292]

Telluride looks so much better

[@RichinPhoenix]

The Pilot should have been offered with a hybrid engine option. There is no longer any excuse for manufacturers to fail to offer a hybrid with better fuel economy in a newly designed vehicle.

[@P_double_H]

Hybrids are losing market interest. Who wants a car that can give you more headaches than it should because it has all of these complex batteries and electric motors? Nobody.

[@persaud101]

@@P_double_H Toyota Hybrids are very reliable and are even used in the taxis industry that runs them close to 24/7 and 365 days of the year

[@mikelee8617]

Just bought a new Pilot Elite. Have owned lots of vehicles. Love this one.

[@stephencvogt]

Agree with comments - Looks great and highly functional for families with children (especially removal of middle sear in second row), but $53k? Seriously?

[@felixd7871]

While I do like the new Pilot I just don’t think it offers enough for such a price tag. The pathfinder tops out around $47-48k, the Telluride/Palisades top out around $53k same as pilot but offer more, the new Highlander tops out around $51-52k I think is too expensive but still cheaper than the pilot and that’s the platinum trim the limited trim i think is on par with the new Pilot Elite and is like $49-50k, heck even the new CX-90 seems promising with a more powerful inline 6 that will have two different tunes and a plug in hybrid with prices starting around mid $40k’s topping out around $60k. I think the Pilot trail sport is the package to get here, granted it comes with all terrain tires, and skid plates, same engine, same transmission, the Interior downgrades a bit but still comes with third row seating and panoramic sunroof, and priced around $49k a pretty competitive all around package, since only the new pathfinder Rick creek comes close, the Telluride SX-pro has no skid plates so it’s not in the same category as those two.

[@PineappleGamesTV]

The small display is a huge miss when it’s in the new Accord and not in the Pilot.

[@lkae4]

You should be staring at the road, not the screen when you're driving anyway. The screen should be only big enough for clear directions and music options. Any bigger is clutter and a distraction.

[@KUSHGPATEL]

@@lkae4 bigger the screen the safer it is. For example when using maps, I don’t want to be squinting my eyes. Plus bigger screens are more aesthetic and practical

[@lkae4]

@@KUSHGPATEL Did you know that it's extremely disrespectful to make up stuff when you talk to other human beings? It can even be interpreted as dishonesty and propaganda. Did you know that?

[@thendino1]

@@lkae4 What he said makes sense, did you realize that?

[@KUSHGPATEL]

But speaking from experience, one could argue that having a bigger screen would result in less squinting. :) I don’t see the problem here. When using maps, I can more quickly get info on a bigger screen. I don’t need to squint for directions. this same logic can be applied to other apps, for example music. So in theory, a bigger screen would be more safer, as one less squinting and second less playing around with the interface, as a bigger screen can house more controls instead of a small screen where some controls are hidden deep and require additional commands to use. Did you know that?

[@mightymouse1111]

Nice but I'm definitely getting the telluride. My telluride will even have ventilated 2nd row! And a digital rear view mirror. And 2 sunroof. And a continuous display to the infotainment display. And it's just looks way sportier than the pilot. Pilot just looks like a minivan with suv doors. With looks and luxury, Telluride has redefined this suv crossover arena. I am not associated with or paid by kia, but I AM very excited about my new telluride next month lol

[@dannybryant6873]

My advice to friends that buy Korean or European cars. Don't keep them past warranty. Tellurides win a lot of comparisons. I'll stick with my low mileage (114k) 06 Odyssey minivan.

[@mightymouse1111]

@@dannybryant6873 I'm coming from a 300k '09 odyssey, great vans! And I completely agree about replacing after the warranty ends. 10 yr 100k definitely gives me some time tho. For the record, I could be happier tight now in my telluride prestige xline. It's pretty great!

[@dannybryant6873]

Niece wanted a new Seinna. But the shortage made them too expensive. So she got a Telluride. It looks nice and Tellurides win a lot of comparisons for family vehicle.

[@elevenAD]

Nice, not sure if i would buy over a Telluride?

[@jdbbs1]

Had the 09 and liked it… 53!?!? What n the hell

[@RobbiePfunder]

this is elite trim. lower trims $40k

[@kirb1430]

telluride has 7-8 row seating, more power, more towing, more safety features, nappa leather, blind spot monitor and arguably more attractive styling.

[@Jedi391]

The best family 3 row is the Honda Odyssey, but this is very nice.

[@maxism5454]

Good point, but some people have use cases such as engineers like my father. they need SUVs to get to the construction sites and move freely in them

[@dannybryant6873]

I love my 06 Odyssey. I would rather have the hybrid Toyota for the electric experience and better fuel economy, if someone else would pay for it 😅

[@EzyContent17]

My dad just bought the car. It’s an amazing vehicle for long trips❤❤

[@Markymark240]

Now we know what the plate on the car is now.

[@8dera133]

Damn I remember when the top trim Pilots just in 2019 were 45k. My dad got the 2019 touring, not elite for 36k out the door after everything only because that one had been sitting on the lot for a while only because of the color. But it was an amazing deal, it was almost fully loaded.

[@TLG112009]

If Honda added digital rearview mirror like Toyota. That would be awesome!

[@bcomingCanNoy]

Hi Mason Would you choose this over Telluride? Pls advise!

[@WindAGgamingstudios]

Guys everyone is complaining about the price, this is literally the elite so expect it! Bro!

[@user-bb2jo2gt9g]

Nice SUV, but 53k is ridiculous price. You can get....Lexus instead😊

[@rubenfuentesiii5169]

😂😂😂 doesn’t even come CLOSE to the Telluride.

[@carlosfernandez7798]

Comparar un kia o un huyndai con un honda es en términos de fútbol como comparar al manchester City con chivas jaja

[@DrewJmsn]

I'm gonna hang onto my '13 Pilot as long as I can, mainly because you can't permanently disable the engine shutoff at stops. If they ever enable the owner to opt out of that for more than the current drive, I'll be interested. At 110k miles, my '13 is a great vehicle, has never failed me or even had a check engine light, and there's no engine start delay when I need to go. Stickin' with that, thanks.

[@lane5686]

Honda Pilot has a reputation of longevity and reliability as per consumers’ reports and professional car reviewers. Kia Telluride 2022-2022 models were demanded for recall by the federal agency for engine fire risk, which has been hand-in-hand with the Korean car brands (Hyundai as well).

[@darkivaz-aaa1145]

Honda Pilot had a recall. Please stop trying to use "reliability" to saved your failing brand when they have too many problems with their transmission issues. Thank you fanbot.

[@fcg243]

Kia has not had any engine related fires on the Tellurides, the only recall they’ve had has been for the towing harness in some models and that has already been addressed. Honda’s reliability has been worst than Toyota/Kia and Hyundai for many years now, even more than some domestic brands.

[@lane5686]

@@fcg243 There are federal mandates of Kia/Hyundai recalls for engine fire risk, wtf??? You can simply Google it.

[@darkivaz-aaa1145]

@@lane5686 Bro, stop trolling. F C is right. The telluride had recalls on their towing harness on some models. Just stop being a pathetic troll.

[@trletts]

@@lane5686 Not on Telluride. Google it.

[@davivu]

Sorry Honda, you changed out the tranny for China gears and lowered the towing capacity. There’s almost no cargo space when fully loaded. Telluride has these covered.

[@sizzlacalunji]

Cargo space of the Pilot goes up to 22.4 cu ft. The cargo lid is adaptable so it can go lower to give more cargo room. The sport lx and TrailSport go up to 21.8 cu ft. More than the Tellurides 21 cu ft.

[@davivu]

No it doesn’t. The floor comes out, you should research better…nice try.

[@sizzlacalunji]

@@davivu the floor can go to the lower level making it deeper this is for the ones that don’t have the removable middle seat. Not even the sales guy, knew this. The top trims won’t be able to expand the cargo due to the dividers and I don’t know if it’s removable. Maybe go and look at one, try for yourself and see. Basically any 7 seater (except Trail Sport) or fixed 8 -seater. Have a good one. 😉 Edit: was at the dealer and the dividers can be removed in the trims with the removable seat.

[@helmesheeha2185]

2012 with 208k so far never had issue just keep up with your maintenance Change your transmission fluid every 30k Oil change 5k And you good to go

[@LuisFlores-wd3jy]

Boring ,Honda is like 6 years behind

[@hh-jy1ld]

Having a v6 vs a turbo 4 is nice these days.

[@shkortv7035]

Honda should up their game!! The interior looks so old fashion !!! Hyundai and kia are way on top of the game !

[@paintup46]

I like it and prefer the V6 over the grand Highlander’s I4T. But, I think the Toyota has a more spacious third row.

[@kr9181]

Don’t forget new Honda v6 engine have cylinder deactivation. Not that great thing. Old V6 really nice!

[@n0tbran]

gorgeous interior

[@asw95691]

Oh well, i was looking into getting a new pilot, but my 2013 pilot touring is still running well. a con in the new pilot is honda removed the rear entertainment system, which means kids cant watch movies. i would buy a used 2012-2015 pilot.

[@asw95691]

which the 2012-2015 is more boxier and has a TV.

[@bballgoat8830]

Just got the Hyundai Santa Fe SEL 38000 has everything plus some that this car has 😂

[@DS-bk8rf]

Telluride is the king of this segment

[@mygekoitachi]

But the Honda will actually stand the test of time. The Telluride, like all other Kia cars, will be in need of repairs shortly after buying.

[@ja5777]

All-new V6? All-new?

[@Jay0007-vn7lm]

For 53k Is it fast?

[@timvibes]

Needs a bigger touchscreen and better fuel economy. Perhaps introduce a hybrid. I'm sure the refresh will get the bigger 12 inch touchscreen like the new Accord.

[@conejo1562]

Hybrid I would buy asap

[@user-kx6mp8us7u]

Хороший аппарат Хонда. Спасибо за обзор видео 👍.

[@RicardoMartinez-ym2lk]

Honda prices are insane get down to earth Honda 👎🏻

[@themanifestingmuse888]

Does elite trim comes with spare tire?

[@sugarbait]

Telluride looks better on the outside and inside.

[@JemWalkintv]

Where did you shoot the video beautiful place?

[@CarConfections]

We were in Sedona, Arizona 👍

[@ritterengine1289]

No where close to being better than a Telluride.

[@alfredogarciajr40]

Comparing this and the new traverse the only thing I’ve liked about this is the bench seat can be removed and made into captain seats

[@zeusleon1954]

Rather get a telluride still cheaper and has a better interior.

[@Chris_Wolfgram]

If I'm not mistaken, he left out the 1 biggest reason I might consider this vehicle. this vehicle comes with the option of being a Gas / Electric Hybrid. Where the Telluride and Palisade do not. For myself, any SUV or van would have to be a Hybrid, for 24 hr climate control, since I'd be converting it to a car camper from day 1 of purchase. This does look pretty good though, and maybe a bit more space even than a Sienna ? But Im not sure if Id trust the Hybrid tech in this, over that of a the Toyota Sienna ?

[@upshifter5316]

Not a hybrid. Not yet anyway.

[@alkaw]

For the size i would, if i needed less size i would go for volvo x40

[@stevenscott6715]

9 inch screen is smaller than many other info screens, right?

[@desongbian1415]

My 2014 brand new was 31k otd. What a world😂

[@joet.2078]

Wonder if Honda will make a Hybrid and a Plug in Hybrid Versions of the Pilot to compete with the Kia Sorento?

[@Andy_Drool]

Bro we just got a telluride

[@elhijodelmaiz1681]

What year is this pilot?

[@jpdoc5722]

is this better than Highlander max / Lexus TX ?

[@capiztirzo2724]

If I hit the jackpot, this will be the vehicle that I will buy. Sadly, with my current salary and the so many monthly bills (mortgage and other home essentials) plus the “extended” family commitments, obviously I can’t afford to buy this Honda Pilot.

[@ChrisWall999]

never thought that it would be a debate as to whether honda is better than kia

[@Mcortese18]

I bought an elite. It’s the worst car I’ve ever bought. The cabin climate system cannot keep up with the cold weather. On max, the heat gets lukewarm at best. The liftgate decides when it wants to work, sometimes the doors don’t unlock, the remote start also has a mind of its own, and sometimes just will not engage. I could go on. Absolute fraud of a car. I cannot believe this is their best offering. Also, shout out to the dealer for telling me to go pound sand. Thanks AutoNation Knoxville!

[@pacoparra7034]

What about transmission??

[@RLICGNT]

Not when the landcruiser is coming out for 55,000

[@P_double_H]

Nice car.. but too expensive. This used to be a 35K to 42k car.

[@RandyAndrada]

Its probably because its the highest trim Level, the LX is 37k

[@rjadragel]

Welcome to inflation.

[@rjadragel]

Everything are going up but your wage😂😂😂

[@Zeek509]

The fact that the Accord has a 12.3in touchscreen and this has a 9in is just weird to me. And I hope the MDX gets the same storage for the middle seat in the next refresh.

[@migueldorantes2649]

Nice KZbin short but the title to your video is cut in half by the notch on my iPhone 👍

[@paulgnc24]

Class leading meaning larger than a grand Highlander?

[@abbaspalgharwala1559]

Sorry for the rant, This is the 4th video of 4 different 3 row suvs i just saw from 4 different KZbinrs and none of them sat in the 3rd row. Thanks i will just take your word that it will fit adults back there. I guess i will just go to a dealer and waste time first.

[@CarConfections]

We suggest taking a look at our Full Review content where we definitely DO sit in the 3rd. This is just a 60 second Short so we are limited in what we can fit into that time

[@AlexIsUber]

They couldn’t add projector led headlights at this price

[@arhamahmed9153]

Teullride has a much nicer interior

[@rondavis1066]

How roomy is the 3rd row? Speaker enough for full adults?

[@CarConfections]

Check out our Full Review linked in the description for detailed information about the third row seating 🙂

[@uniquestion777]

Good: 7/8 passengers conversion on Elite. Standard LED headlamps. Bad: 9 inch center screen. (Accord gets 12.3) Ventilated 2nd row? Ugly: Hybrid will be nice. 53K...

[@daefilm]

People realize it’s the trim level that makes this one expensive. You can get an lower trim in the 40K range easy

[@billy1239.]

Nice car but to much for me maybe cuz im 15😂

[@Paul_dw_Kersey]

Go look for Tricycles lol

[@billy1239.]

@@Paul_dw_Kersey I could never ride on of those 😂

[@noahpickerill3749]

Lol I'm 18 and I'm thinking the same thing

[@DavidMartin-ud9gs]

Longer, removable middle seat? They basically made it more like the Odyssey. It still looks really good, but Telluride still packs the most value

[@brytonmunro5270]

I’d still take the Mazda CX-90 with its Turbo’d and hybridized inline 6 with 340 horsepower and 369 lb-ft of torque alongside its rear wheel based awd system by a long shot. Nicer interior, better fuel economy, better driving dynamics, and far classier exterior design that’ll age gracefully.

[@richboy3860]

Hondas drive great, but such a boring infotainment! 😞

[@preoksaha4504]

People with OCD when they see the centre screen placement lol

[@UnenthusedEnthusiast]

Nice but just by looking at it, the telluride design is better. Funny how the once Titan off the industry is now chasing the once minion. I love underdog victories. Keep doing your thing Kia

[@bradIeyscarreviews]

Kia? 🤮

[@da9nerdy]

Big honda fan here but both the KIA telluride and Hyundai palasade are better than this pilot. 10 year 100k warranty. Amazing

[@wajfar4029]

Lol 53k for that junk?? Sorry no way. Won't be paying anything more that 35k.