2020 Toyota Tundra: FULL REVIEW | "Key" UPGRADES to the RELIABLE Workhorse!

Let's REVIEW and DRIVE the 2020 Toyota Tundra Platinum! With BIG new upgrades for 2020, is the Tundra now worth your $55,000? And do these upgrades interfere with the Tundra's classic truck charm? If so, does this model finally give Ford and Chevy something to worry about? a Go ahead: CLICK to find out :) Also, be sure to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE if you enjoyed this review -- it helps us more than you can imagine!
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[@CarConfections]

Thanks for watching everyone and BIG THANKS for getting us so close to 100k subscribers!! On another note, it has been brought to our attention that (contrary to Toyota's own press release) some versions of the Tundra SR and SR5 do still come with a regular key, not the Smart Key system as stated in the video. Thanks for your understanding!

[@darriontunstall3708]

Car Confections y’all are so welcome!!! And congrats on 100k subscribers!! I love y’all much!!! I can’t wait for Toyota to come out with their first Electric cars!

[@adammorton9311]

You forgot to mention that there is no antenna. It’s now a shark fine type on top of the cab.

[@spwprivate]

Benz truck

[@americandude3825]

Idk why I did not realize the tundra had push button start before the third gen. also, what about gas tank size options - do you know? Thanks guys.

[@jaybuckalew2722]

Just bought my first Toyota, always been a Ford (truck) guy. Gotta say the Tundra 4x4 XPS is a BEAST ! Added the TRD intake and exhaust....Love it

[@highplainsdrifter9849]

Three Tundras with over a million miles. Amazing reliability.

[@bauxiticaxis1048]

I'm still over here with my 2008 Tundra. Still love it.

[@nathanrogers8163]

I just traded my 2008 TRD in for a 2019 platinum. The sad thing is, my truck was paid off, had 120000 miles and still ran wonderfully. All I had to do with my 2008 is replace the battery and the starter. GREAT truck except for the "JBL upgrade" which I think is a downgrade. it sounds like turds.

[@Kana0211]

Still here with an 07

[@Perfectimperfectionz]

Still have my loaded doublecab 2007 with 139k miles. Been riding it on bad starter forever just never replaced it yet but I have it. Have the towiing package and 4.10 rear gears. When I see the inside of a 2020 tundra I see almost everything I see in my 2007. The 5.7 liter engine which I have is still the top motor size u can get which is another reason I didnt get a newer one. I'm just fibd with my loaded one with every option which is on my channel

[@Theonestrongbusleader]

Four years ago today, This still a best truck.

[@americandude3825]

And still four months later. Lol.

[@brutonoc]

I have an ‘08 Tundra with 150,000 miles. Same truck. Still runs like new. I like the low tech. Less stuff to break.

[@jerrylush8435]

Any issues at all? I'm thinking about trading my 2014 ram sport. It's been a lemon. Spent $4500 on repairs in the last 6 months

[@tonytony6225]

196,000 miles on my 2007 5.7V8. Never had a single issue, did all maintenance on time, changed trans and diff oil every 50,000 cuz I tow a lot. Tundra motor and transmission are bullet proof. Time to trade up to the 2020, love the 5.7 motor

[@cy2858]

@@tonytony6225 I have 2008 Limited 5.7 TRD with 285,000 miles. Still runs but I am getting this truck with 7k miles. Based on the last truck should last me till 2036, lol.

[@kevinnoneya9095]

Couple reliability with the C channel frame that's easy to restore, blast and refinish...you could have this truck easy for a lifetime. Dream truck right here.

[@darriontunstall3708]

I love the 2020 Toyota Tundra!!! It’s very nice! Toyota makes good cars!!!

[@joesmith482]

And trucks too

[@jgionti3]

Fantastic review. The most detailed Tundra review I’ve seen. Great job

[@CarConfections]

Much appreciated!

[@ontwoenjoy7935]

2001 v8 first gen over 300,000 all original. Still a beast going fishing Saturday. It’s still a lively truck very strong

[@andym1223]

This is all it needs in my opinion. Maybe a rear locking diff too but overall Toyota did a great job. I cant wait to see what the all new 2021 Tundra has!

[@andym1223]

@Tony Brown Still reliable, still simple, and still capable

[@josh0050]

What about the 2022

[@andrewmobley8003]

Fun fact: if you press the lock button a few times and then hold for about 5-7 seconds it will remote start your tundra even though it doesn’t technically have that option

[@AthwalJag]

My Tundra is a TRD 4x4 Sport with factory matching bumpers

[@GameboyShavis]

Who cares if this truck is dated, I like it

[@imxploring]

Bullet proof drivetrain... solid and reliable truck! That's what I want in a truck!

[@coperpot100]

I got it down to this If the truck looks good Runs good Performs good And is reliable That’s all I want. I don’t need any of those dumb safety features because I actually know how to drive!

[@AYouTubeChannelwithNoName]

coperpot100 😂😂

[@joescott701]

Just bought a 2020 Tundra sr5 crewmax in cement. I changed out the interior lights to led , license plate light , cargo light, and had a remote start put in with a putco led bar. In the near future I'm doing the oem toyota headlights / fogs . Last will be some Trd blacked out rims. Then I'll just sit back as the truck racks up 300 400 thousand. .

[@louie4316]

I love my 2014 Limited. That 5.7L is awesome.

[@corathekat1898]

Just purchased a 2020 Tundra Limited Crew. Love it. Traded of my 2018 Tacoma. Loved my Taco, but HATED the seats.

[@relikvija]

Cora the Kat enjoy it!

[@Worthrhetime]

So it’s 2023 and just bought a 2020 ltd. With 33k on it . Looks , sounds , drives great. Looking forward to a long term relationship:-)

[@kross1261]

Just bought a 2020. Traded in my 07 250k miles only replaced the starter. Great truck. To say the Tundra hasn’t changed isn’t true. I feel there’s a big difference overall from my 07. Mileage is a little weak but not as bad as some say. So far I really like the truck. Only complaint is I wish it still had a CD player.

[@rowdytitan]

I feel like they strategically released the push button start and infotainment updates to move the last of the 2020s before the new generation comes out.

[@Hamza40000-x]

Hello great video connfections. Also compare limited & 1794 edition. And platinum & limited! Thank you.

[@Leatherkid01]

Love it...glad it retains that V8...nice review as usual guys 😀🤙 Yes!! an optional moon roof....i can get a Tundra without a damn moonroof👍

[@CarConfections]

Thanks!

[@franklinsaltchuck2455]

I hear they are moving to a hybrid in next year or two :/

[@andym1223]

@@franklinsaltchuck2455 Yeah I like it but if theres no V8 ill have to pass

[@Eric_4is]

They finally woke up with the smart key entry should have been added back in 2014, I like where it is at right now especially the LED headlights and features. Id like to see full LED including turn signals and rear lights, the competition all offer that right now.

[@seabass22]

Jordan Eric Collum yeah, but go ahead and look up how much these LED headlights cost. Just for ONE.

[@BryanG830]

Every car I've driven and owned was the most long luxurious car you could ever get so I'm used to old-fashioned even Toyota's luxury is too much for me. But I choose Toyota's old fashioned look any day because that's what I'm used to. All I care about is reliability and durability

[@TXrapidracer]

The biggest issue with this truck is that if you buy one that is 10 years old and park in next to a new one, there is very little changes to it. Sometimes this can be a bad thing, especially when many buyers like change, but for Toyota I think it is a good thing. The platinum looks a bit too plain for me though. I have an '18 1794, so far I have installed a Banks supercharger, exhaust, tweaked the programming on the tranny, and it has actually improved my fuel mileage. I do not understand why Toyota has to run 4 cat converters when most states only require 1-2. The engine in this truck is a beast and I can only imagine how it would perform if Toyota decided to come out with a 700-800 hp version. I would definitely buy one.

[@bobbyb.1743]

Great review gentlemen - thank you!!

[@CarConfections]

Thanks for watching!

[@bradalbert1263]

I think they need to add back under seat storage

[@tacoma171]

Some USB ports and heated seats for the rear passengers would have been nice. A heated wheel also would’ve been a nice addition.

[@imxploring]

Awesome overview/review! Thanks for posting!

[@CarConfections]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@americandude3825]

$54,599 in 2020. It cost $70k now and it doesn’t even last 100k miles.

[@JJustinXu]

Yes love this truck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cherylt8590]

Great video ty for all the Tundra updates,gotta love the Tundra 👍😊...

[@CarConfections]

Thanks!

[@Antonio-Mlb]

New Tundra in 2021!!!! Everyone will be happy.................

[@crazyizzy3609]

.."Now the moment you've all been waiting for..uh...10 years, push to start" lol... you killed me there lol. Good video tho

[@CarConfections]

😂

[@Floof_Factory]

Are all these trucks good for offroading? I wanna get the sr since the ground clearence on all of them is virtually the same Edit: this is for the 2021 versions. The higher priced models have a 10.6 clearence compared to a 10.6 clearence

[@sharkskin3448]

Am I the only one who thinks the redesign will be late 2021 and called a 2022? Well see what Toyota shows up with at the Chicago Auto Show.

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Howdy, great review as always! Now that they have upgraded the tech, this would be a perfect truck, however I do think they should offer a heated steering wheel and a few more amenities for the rear passengers.😸😻😸😸😻

[@jacobkidd237]

My guess is that this is a fire sale model to get rid of the remaining parts they've already manufactured to make room for the 2021 which will be a redesign.

[@Salvitrojan7]

Jacob Kidd I hope your guess is correct, I’m looking forward to what the 2021 redesign will be like!

[@JuveLock]

Solid look 👍 great review D&M

[@jumperman1773]

2020 Tundra or Nissan Titan? Having a tuff time with this one.....

[@toyo2502]

I wish they had a 6ft bed on the crewcab.

[@TallRedThang]

Great Review love the Tundra time for it to be redesign though

[@ryanp.8387]

Great job!! I will only buy Toyota , especially after owning a Chrysler fiat vehicle!! Toyota all the way

[@CarConfections]

Thanks!

[@mikefoehr235]

@Tony Brown not in quality

[@andym1223]

@Tony Brown in repair costs maybe. But in reliability, the Tundra is better.

[@veronicaserrato9827]

I love my 2019 Tundra

[@HeIaI]

do you any problem until now? cuz i am thinking of buying 1794 edition 2020.

[@veronicaserrato9827]

Helal Saif hi no I have no problem with the engine what’s so ever it’s a beast the only thing I had a little problem was my radio for some reason it didn’t want to pair with my cell phone 📱 but I took it into Toyota and they replaced it and now it’s just working. IDK they said it was my cell phone 📱 who’s known only they do.. that was the only little thing I had with mines .. those 1794 are awesome special the interior!! Good luck you won’t regret it please let me know if you get it and what color I’m curious 😊 and remember right now if you buy one it’s going to be a V8 because I think 🤔 the new ones are going to be V6 that’s what I heard but don’t quote me on it ! Enjoy 😉 your new Tundra they are a beast! 😊 have a great day and be safe out there it’s getting pretty bad! Bye.

[@HeIaI]

Veronica Serrato oh thank you very much 😁, I will let u know, when I get my tundra ✨. I will never forget! ✨

[@veronicaserrato9827]

Helal Saif that sounds great! 😏 and you’re welcome 😊

[@steven6437]

I'm love the durability of my tundra but the front and rear needs a new look. Maybe with a little more aggressive because It's getting boring. Please keep up with GMC and keep us your customers happy.

[@andrewlangellier6104]

I think it should’ve gotten a full redesigned

[@andym1223]

Next year it will

[@tmack10k]

Very nice job guys

[@CarConfections]

Thanks!

[@mikec3454]

This is a great video, though I wouldn't call it a "review", more of an in-depth overview. Which is actually better to be honest, let viewers make their own opinions.

[@CarConfections]

That's the idea! We provide the info and people use that to make up their own minds 👍

[@brodytaylor8749]

Does the limited have front parking censors?

[@rudystraight1750]

That bouncy ride is what I like. Its fun

[@stmichale6192]

54k on the tundra you get top of the line and for Chevy you’re still only getting the RST model with less features....I’ll take the tundra

[@andym1223]

Actually, my dealer has 2020 Silverado LTZs with more features that are the same cost or only a couple of thousand dollars more than the Tundra.

[@gregorys6838]

The lack of the grab handle on the driver's side has me mystified. I now ASSUME Toyota feels it's OK to grab the steering wheel to yank your butt into the truck. And, it will not cause any problems after years of use to the steering wheel or electronics in the wheel. But no one seems to know if that's true or not.

[@flight2k5]

Gregory S I never understood the outcry about this. I’ve never needed a grab handle

[@AmericanFarmerHVAC2024]

$55,000 is a lot of money. BUT it is worth it to have something that you can drive for 20 years. None of the BIG 3 are able to do that. They are junk.

[@seabass22]

coffeeinthemorning well of course not. Tundra hasn’t been around for 20 years.

[@AmericanFarmerHVAC2024]

@Tony Brown this is true but not outdated. I'd drive an 80s Chevy around if I could.

[@mikes9637]

Ill take reliability anytime , anyday over fancy updates. Gas could be better in my 2020 but it is what it is ..chances of numerous service runs highly unlikely

[@luismedina5581]

I'm heard that Toyota tundra 2019 and 2020 they remove extra transmission oil cooler, I recently bought a new 2020 I'm very worried it loses reliability, it will bring me problems in the future

[@andym1223]

I wouldnt worry about it.

[@misterpimlott6330]

You should do a 2007 vs 2020

[@kellychristensen9562]

Man I'm liking this truck

[@cy2858]

What color is this model?

[@nolang4495]

Love that truck 👍🏻

[@mikefoehr235]

Get my 20 TRD OFF ROAD in September. One thing...since Tundra sells low, more exclusive.

[@OIdGIory]

You didn’t mention anything about trd prob

[@CarConfections]

We talk about the TRD Pro in a separate dedicated video!

[@Jaymac720]

Toyota did a pretty nice job updating the interior. I just want them to update the power train now. The 5.7L and 4.6L V8s, while durable, are old as hell. Toyota has a much newer 5.0L V8 which they could easily tune to put out more torque and get better gas mileage. The 6 speed transmission is also extremely outdated with Ford and GM using 10 speeds and Ram using an 8 speed

[@moeanthony9308]

Old school, tried, proven and true. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

[@Jaymac720]

Moe Anthony I’d say the fuel economy is pretty broken. In every application, the 5.7 gets horrendous gas mileage, while every competitor with a V8 gets several MPG better and they have more power. Toyota’s new 5.0 has no reason to be less durable and reliable than the 5.7

[@andym1223]

Im worried that the 5.0 would be underpowered and sound mediocre like Fords 5.0 sounds. I will take the shit fuel economy for a true V8.

[@moeanthony9308]

@@Jaymac720 Wait a bit for proven reliability

[@moeanthony9308]

@@andym1223 yep

[@Recaplifebro]

What’s the pricing with the army green new 2020 tundra?

[@CarConfections]

The Amry Green TRD Pro is covered in a separate video

[@veronicaserrato9827]

I was wondering do you think I could install the JBL on my new 2019 truck

[@Fudgeballs88]

the double cab or crewmax?

[@veronicaserrato9827]

Crewmax

[@veronicaserrato9827]

It’s a Tundra 4x2 SR5

[@Fudgeballs88]

@@veronicaserrato9827 yeah it looks like it might be possible, i'm not too sure of it myself but i found a video that might help kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoqqeaZ6bpl5m80

[@veronicaserrato9827]

Dorian Asllanaj thanks

[@AutoManuals]

Love the Tundra. Great review.. Subbed & Liked.

[@CarConfections]

Thanks! We really appreciate that, especially since we are getting so close to 100k subs!

[@hafsaqadri9535]

i am just waiting for the redesign tundra to come

[@silentrefusal9911]

182.7 inches? What length is that? This Tundra definitely looks longer than that

[@ctopher454]

Is that a puddle light on the bottom at 3:33?

[@CarConfections]

Yes

[@cuadrinhovlogs1930]

2021 Toyota Tundra diesel?

[@Leatherkid01]

Btw, just curious, what do you two drive daily? 🤔

[@CarConfections]

We have a Toyota Camry and a Hyundai Elantra

[@Leatherkid01]

@@CarConfections nice 👍

[@Leatherkid01]

@@CarConfections guess u didnt get the Stinger then? found your vid on it just now 😁.

[@veronicaserrato9827]

Hi I love your videos but I have one question ! Recently I purchase a 2019 Toyota Tundra and I noticed that when I start to drive it and i push the gas pedal i hear like a thump or a sound is that normal?

[@CarConfections]

🤔hmm it's hard to say since idk what kind of thump we're talking about. Is it only after you first take off after startup or every time?

[@veronicaserrato9827]

Car Confections every time I start and leave but I went to Toyota the delar and I test 2 more Toyota Tundras and it did the same thing they say it’s nothing bad so I’m most relaxed after I tested 2 more

[@Brenden636]

ABS self test.

[@veronicaserrato9827]

Brenden6 oh so it’s Anti lock system Thank you

[@jebsdaddy141]

I second that, it is the brake system doing some sort of self check

[@bonou21941]

I was about to get the 2020 until I heard about the 2021 redesign ...12 inch screen and a redesigned front end...I haven't heard too much about the engine or trans....

[@GainesMediaInc]

Where did you hear about that Peter?

[@buttonman1831]

I drove them all and I think Tundra is the best. Dodge drives nice and has good features, but they don't feel rugged or tough and they are not particularly reliable. Chev drives nice but the interior are full of cheap ass thin plastic that rattles and buzzes. They have issues not widely known with oil pumps. Ford is probably the best out of the big 3 but I hate Ford because Ford owner are the most obnoxious crowd I've ever fucking seen. Tundra's are built better and feel more rugged. Yeah they are pigs on gas, but Ram is only marginally better.

[@sharkskin3448]

⬆️. 😁 ⬆️

[@drn13355]

Barely hung, where are you getting "not particulary reliable" from? Ram 1500 2019 has some of the highest reliability ratings out there. I am not a Ram fan, but you are flowing total bullshit.

[@seabass22]

Issues with oil pumps you say?

[@buttonman1831]

@@drn13355A 2019 Ram should be 100 percent realible as far as I'm concerned but yes Ram is not very reliable. Problems with the electronics is prevalent, the heating vents, the fronts ends are weak, manifold failed early. Show me a link to a publication saying the ram is the most realible and il call it bullshit

[@mlafonta22]

I drove them all as well. I'm not a loyalty guy either. When I decided to get a truck I thought it would get either a ford or the tundra. I ended up buying a Ram Rebel, rugged, by far the nicest interior(tundra was the worst) and with incentives I paid less then they would sell the Tundra limited. Reliability? Time will tell. 10,000 k so far so good.

[@walterlandaverde1555]

Does it have Blind spot monitoring?

[@CarConfections]

Yes

[@habibisidoarjo8635]

I want to request toyota all new 4runner 2019 thanks...

[@kyanlevins7917]

Will you do a video an the 2020 sonata

[@CarConfections]

Yes when the come out!

[@msalazar89]

Needs an 8 spd for better mpgs while cruising

[@chrishansen7004]

Ya it’s dated it’s a truck I’d buy it because of that but I wish they would try to improve the mpgs and maybe the power a little on this thing they’re so extremely hard on gas it’s unbelievable for a 2020 truck it’s just as bad as the obs Chevy I had

[@navindraangatiah6075]

2020 titan pro 4x wins this in every catagory..

[@mikefoehr235]

Not quality tho

[@bassdaze]

Definitely not RELIABLITY, titan is an absolute joke and if u gave me one id sell it

[@xGU3RR3ROx27]

We wish Toyota can just make the Tundra: 4 full size doors with the 8.1 long bed! 😫 5.7L V8! I know it would get more customers to buy more Tundras

[@andym1223]

A crewmax with a 8 foot bed? Do you want this to be a semi truck or something? I can see a 6 foot bed with the crewmax but 8 foot is too big. Nobody offers that.

[@Perfectimperfectionz]

6ft bed with crewmax would be perfect. I always wish for that.

[@shafiquddin4185]

Perfact pickup nice

[@buddybuck]

Great video. Why didn’t you talk about the 2020 TRD PRO? That’s my favorite model. Also, how do you lock the tailgate if there is no physical key?

[@seabass22]

Power locking tailgate

[@eliteinventor]

I'm glad it doesn't have running boards

[@gaspeli47gaspeli33]

How much?

[@CarConfections]

Pricing is at the end of the video

[@dlae73]

A more fuel efficient V8 engine, twin panel moonroof, heated rear seats, 400 watt power inverter for charging laptops and power folding running boards would be great options.

[@laxmannepal761]

Lovely Toyota

[@SWiSH_mike]

No trd pro?

[@gordoelkis]

Tundras last for ever

[@shahriarahmed5142]

wOw that was sick though

[@kennthbennett7320]

Remote start?

[@Arnamus73]

Only with the Toyota Remote Connect phone app and service. There's no remote start button on the fob. So, you have to pay for annual service which I think is around $80/year. You can also get other vehicle data from the app.

[@andym1223]

@@Arnamus73 you can on some vehicles, with a certain button combo on the key fob.

[@tonytony6225]

Key fob remote start on the Limited

[@jimxiong3815]

What’s the point of having dual climate control if it changes for both sides ???

[@CarConfections]

It's synced in the video but it doesn't have to be the same temp

[@michaelxiong5395]

Awesome truck but the start button looks like Toyota just slapped it on. Doesn’t look good and is out of place

[@dc5325]

does anyone know if toyota has fixed the "cam tower oil leak" ?? (google it)

[@charliemontero5217]

Its weird that this pickup lacks of a lit features others have and only one engine that is not fuel efficient the only thing that I can say for this pickup is reliable and nothing more

[@andrewbeck844]

Charlie Montero It actually gets better mpg than other 1/2 tons when loaded/pulling a load: canadiantruckkingchallenge.ca/wp-content/uploads/CTKC_2018_Report_Summary.pdf

[@seabass22]

Lol I think it’s a microcosm of our society, to say that fancy features and electronics are more important in a pickup truck, than reliability and longevity.

[@seabass22]

Andrew Beck this shows that it gets the worst

[@steven6437]

I love my tundra and it's reliable but the design is getting old. Please redesign the facial and the tailgate. It really needs a new fresh look.

[@bobbyb.1743]

W/ the benefit of it now being 2024, I purchased a low-mileage ‘21 Platinum. Personally I’m a fan of this body style, 38 gal tank & V8!

[@capt2278]

Thank you for another great review. So, still no remote-start and the opening of the door is delayed - like the earlier versions of auto-unlock of other manufacturers of 5 years ago. They should have gone with the instant unlock that has been out for a year or two. And the lack of remote-start is a deal killer these days. wait.. no driver assist grip? On a Platinum?? And plastics? eeessh wow.. 2020 is looking very dated already.

[@Jdsnipe112]

They do come stock with remote start. These guys did not give a very thorough review

[@Atlas_rain]

I don’t know why Toyota even bothers trying to make luxury options. They always have done such a terrible job of it. They either need to get better at it, or they should just stop trying. Stick to capability, and reliability. That’s why people buy them anyway. I don’t think they’d lose customers for leaving out their “luxury” options.

[@andym1223]

I think this truck is very luxury, has plenty of features and im sure more will come for 2021

[@Atlas_rain]

It has them, they just don’t execute very well. Still lots of hard plastic, unattractive hardware, poor quality stitching and leather on the seats. Interior as a whole looks older than it is. Anyone who specifically wants a luxury truck will go somewhere else, so I think they could save a few bucks by not trying. Or...maybe this is them not trying so much. Don’t really know. I just know they aren’t even competitive on those features. But like I said, that’s also not why people buy Toyota’s anyway.

[@huythai1222]

Why should they try so hard on a slight refresh when the Tundra is gonna be brand new in a couple months? Also, if Toyota has always done such a terrible job and luxury oriented things, explain Lexus. The Tundra is just old, plain and simple literally.

[@Atlas_rain]

Well a refresh would be the immediate answer to the issues, however that’s not what I really meant. In general, forever they have never been up to other companies. So if they stayed true to their nature, even a refresh would be disappointing for that stuff. Also, Lexus is just as bad. If Toyota competes with non-luxury brands, and that’s what I am comparing it to, then Lexus is competing with the luxury brands. And Lexus falls far behind Audi, BMW, and Mercedes in terms of luxury as well. All for basically the same reasons. Still a lot of use of cheap, unattractive hardware, and outdated styling. Better than Toyota, but still not on par with their true competition. I’m not a Toyota hater, I have a 2012 Camry as one of my cars that I love for what I bought it for.

[@huythai1222]

Josh McQueen lol. We have a lx570 and a ls460l. Don’t say things like that when you don’t drive a Lexus. I ain’t hatin but quality can also be compared as reliability. Our previous gl550/GLS and S-class suffered multiple electronic failures, air strut failures, and transmission issues in the GL. The GL was a sad comparison to the LX even from 2010 (the year of our GL) with the hard plastic center console, tiny info screen, and creaks and rattles galore. The S-class is on par luxury wise with our LS460l, which also dates back to the S-class. The S has more power, but of course reliability is shit. Also, you’re saying Lexus IS boring with outdated tech? The LS has the first full LED headlights, autonomous parking, and semi autonomous driving tech since 2008. The current LS has the largest HUD with active pedestrian, stop sign, and cross traffic detection. It’s semi autonomous, it has good power and good mpg for its size, and it’s luxurious as well. Styling wise, Lexus was the first to adopt the big grille and aggressive styling trend. Now you see BMW following suit with the enlarged tiger nose, Audi with their pentagon grille etc etc. for the things Lexus has done in just 30 years of existence, they give off a heritage much larger than what they actually have.

[@bbcala9719]

It's a nice truck but like I said before, if they worked on better fuel mileage it would be in the bag. My sons 2003 tundra gets terrible fuel mileage but it's good for a 1st vehicle. Who wants a new vehicle that you have to constantly keep putting gas in. People want some kind of decent fuel mileage. You have to wow people with important stuff 1st.

[@koolkitties8552]

This truck weighs over 4000lbs and has a V8. Its not going to get good mileage.It does have an eco mode for the highway which increases mileage to about 23 a gallon.

[@bbcala9719]

I have a 2003 f150 supercrew with a 175,000 miles and it still gets better fuel mileage then a new Tundra. My sons 2003 Tundra fuel mileage is worse then my truck

[@seabass22]

Bb Cala that’s bs. Unless you have a V6 MAYBE. I had a 5.4 and that thing drank gas like koolaid. Your sons truck probably has a small gas tank. Or larger, heavier tires.

[@bbcala9719]

Well I have been working on vehicles for a long time. There is ways to check all kinds of things like fuel mileage. Trust me young man. Fuel tank is a least 25 gal. I drive 220 mile round trip. Hands down Toyota drinks more gas. My 2003 sipercrew 4x4 gets better mileage. Both trucks on stock tires n rims. But Toyota has new tires n rims but still stock. It's ok to argue the factor. But facts are facts trust me guy I know. I have worked on vehicle's for almost 40 years n have done all kinds of test

[@seabass22]

Bb Cala okay, just saying it might be smaller. Guy next door to me has a tank on his 2014 that is like 21 gallons or something. I had a supercrew 2 wheel drive 5.4 2007 F-150 and it drank the gas. My Silverado I just got rid of drank the gas at a 13-14 avg on 33s. Tundra I just got is 15-16 mpg average. Gets about 19 doing 50 on the highway. I’ll agree, it’s a half-ton that gets about 3/4 ton mileage. By today’s standards anyway. But ask yourself what a little bit of fuel mileage means, when you’re looking at replacing an engine at 105k miles in the near future. Happens all the time on these newer trucks.

[@Mike-uk2ut]

Where power meets reliability

[@JackTheSkunk]

Quilted trim looks so 50's........not to my liking.

[@sharkskin3448]

1794 same price, equipment level, different trim.

[@gittyupalice96]

lol lane departure warning and automatic braking... You could of just said training wheels.