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CARD CLEANING/REPAIR, IS IT FRAUD OR JUST PART OF CARD PREP?

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@brendanryan3885
@brendanryan3885 2 жыл бұрын
Age old debate between preservation v.s alteration, i dont think wiping down cards is bad to submit for grading but it ends there ; )
@vinnytompkins6898
@vinnytompkins6898 2 жыл бұрын
Agree thats where it ends
@Goats_and_pros
@Goats_and_pros 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like the idea of repairing cards when I first came across this guys product several months back, but after watching your video i’m not against it. Great points
@jeffkoll4002
@jeffkoll4002 7 ай бұрын
Found this late. Thanks for the video!!! I agree with your assessment about what Kurt is doing.
@BklynBryan
@BklynBryan 2 жыл бұрын
I knew it!! My man Kurt! Got the kit a while ago. It works sometimes. I've repaired corners on a few split end cards. White corner turned back red and another white corner turned back black. A lot of scratched up Prizm, Finest, & Chrome cards!!! Can only send Topps & Panini so many cards to replace. The polish works for some scratches like fine, but not deep. McD straw trick works!! Fix corners and edges! Corner tool forever!!!
@bobwilliams5382
@bobwilliams5382 2 жыл бұрын
Also think about how many old paintings get restored that actually adds value back on the painting.
@blueodum
@blueodum 2 жыл бұрын
It's a question of industry norms. Restoration of paintings is within the norm for that industry; in the card world it is viewed as altering and needs to be disclosed.
@cccards5102
@cccards5102 2 жыл бұрын
Your analogy of a car is exactly what I was thinking before I started watching the video You said it best around 11:30 - as long as you are not misrepresenting what the product is, then there should be no issue. Cutting is an issue, buffing out scuffs, cleaning edges/corners is not. Trying to hide an issue by trying to recolor a card, using camera angles, using digital alteration to sell, etc is where the problems lay.
@howievision
@howievision 2 жыл бұрын
Trimming down borders or adding color to an edge, no. Wiping or buffing down a chrome surface, I have no issues with that.
@RobShim
@RobShim 2 жыл бұрын
I think more fair comparison of what they’re doing using the car analogy is taking the car for a wash and a full detail service before a show or sale. No one is cutting or making an alteration to deceive. Most people are still stuck in the old adage. If we’re going by the old adage, all autographed cards then cannot be graded since it’s been altered or blemished since it has foreign substance and ink mark that wasn’t suppose to be on the card in first place.
@rookieoftheyeartradingcard2983
@rookieoftheyeartradingcard2983 2 жыл бұрын
Think you got Kurt a new client! Lol
@hectorc1663
@hectorc1663 2 жыл бұрын
You own a beautiful expensive car. You get a scratch on it. You say I can't get that buffed out that would be altering the car and hence ruin the authenticity of it and the next buyer will not want it. Sounds silly doesn't it.
@blueodum
@blueodum 2 жыл бұрын
Different industry - different norms.
@franklandgraff1190
@franklandgraff1190 5 ай бұрын
I have watched several videos of Kurt in action and I feel that what he does is really a cleaning off dirt and fingerprints, using moisture to relax creases on dents and corners, and polishing. Much like you would do with a car(like you said). His processes will improve the looks of cards and make blemishes less apparent. Many issues on cards come from the manufacturers making process.
@maxdibley5024
@maxdibley5024 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this guy crack some slabs and regrade them to see if he can improve the overall grade after working his magic!
@Bnguyen276
@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын
He’s done some and I’ve done a few. The most it will increase is by half a point or by 1 maximum. It’s just pulling the dents out by using a plate press and rolling out the corners. You can still see the damage from the naked eye but just not as bad. The wax is amazing on heavily coated cards. It takes off all the dirt and and sometimes print lines that are just on the coat. Sometimes the print lines is just on the coat not below it coat. It’ll grab all the dirt and oxidation from being out out. It’s not a paint repair or anything. It’s like a shoe wax. It’ll take minor scratches that’s on the coat but nothing heavy.
@CraigBrosRacing
@CraigBrosRacing Жыл бұрын
Definitely like PDR for cars but done to a small piece of cardboard... Genius IDEA..
@CraigBrosRacing
@CraigBrosRacing Жыл бұрын
Kurts card care is FUCKING amazing!!!!theres no trimming just how to manipulate cardboard with moisture thats all he NEVER changes a card from factory just a great detail job..like on a car..
@jasonb5613
@jasonb5613 11 ай бұрын
Been watching card repair videos lately. I’m not a seller and don’t want to at all. But if I can clean or repair a card without removing or adding anything and have it graded for myself, I think it would be awesome.
@JC-pu7gi
@JC-pu7gi 6 ай бұрын
Kurt actually took a 53 Mantle that was altered and unaltered it. It had red ink on corners and he removed it so it good get an actual grade. I thought it was pretty cool.
@DajuiceMain
@DajuiceMain 2 жыл бұрын
If it fools PSA I'm good with it
@dannybrassem6947
@dannybrassem6947 Жыл бұрын
So if you have a Porche, and it gets dirty, you shouldn’t clean it? Why is this even a discussion?
@thomas_o
@thomas_o 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when there used to be a lot of videos on YT in regards to card cleaning. Card cleaning beyond just wiping it clean with something like a microfiber towel. And there started to be a lot of conversations about this on forums like Blowout Cards. And at that time, the three major graders, and even the FBI considered more than wiping the card down as altering the card. And after the FBI got involved, most of those YT videos disappeared. There are reasons why you can't compare card cleaning to automobile cleaning, but I don't recall them. Something like an automobile is always exposed to the elements and that it needs constant cleaning, touch up, etc. (and that's just part of owning an automobile).
@LilPennyH
@LilPennyH Жыл бұрын
Peter from SGC addressed this. If they can't tell, what are they supposed to do? Just start collecting fees and sending you back non graded cards saying "altered?"
@alienhead1184
@alienhead1184 2 жыл бұрын
I say as long as u aren’t forging the autos or cutting/trimming the actual card it’s okay
@jeffreydemarco8931
@jeffreydemarco8931 Жыл бұрын
100 percent agree Love the car analogy I mean is cleaning your car and waxing it inside and out not a good thing but like a card if it is altered or use of a marker to hide edge wear is like selling a classic and saying it is 100 percent original parts when you put a secondary market part or made part and not tell someone then it is a scam!!!!!
@comebackcardcollector
@comebackcardcollector 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like to even touch a card. The more you handle a card, the more risk.
@Merlincollects
@Merlincollects 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you took on this topic. Been waiting for this one. Thanks! :)
@CMills-ho5hl
@CMills-ho5hl 2 жыл бұрын
Yea i seen dude while back on ig was wondering what were ppls thoughts..my thing is this why are ppl not holding da card companies feet to fire when u open a pack n cards are dinged or scratched like hell...n still bow at card companies feet for getting bad cards freshly supposed pressed n packed or ding corner's
@vinnytompkins6898
@vinnytompkins6898 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how a card grader like sgc or psa would grade a card like after and before. Maybe this could be a future video for you to try and share results?
@Bnguyen276
@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done some cards, it will slightly fetch you a higher grade. Half a point to a full point. It will never get you a 10 if the corners were once damaged. The wax is amazing, it takes the print rolls off a lot of times. A lot of times the print rolls is just on the clear coat. I’ve taken some off with the wax and see all the grime , print roll dirt on the cloth. Trust me psa goes through with a microscope. That enlarges the whole card on the screen.
@TheRealWarez
@TheRealWarez 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of it... been using my own thing to "repair" scratches, but I'd be lying if I said it removed them... all it does is cover them up, albeit very very well. You would have to rub the card with a fair bit of pressure for about 30 seconds straight to get them to start reappearing... If I sold those cards raw I would feel the need to tell the buyer because I know all I've done is cover them up, which seems a little bit like misrepresenting the card in my eyes. It's possible if the card was handleded a lot of the years the scratches would slowly reappear as well, though I dont know who handles their cards that much. BTW, PSA and Beckett have both graded cards I repaired using my "stuff", no problem at all.
@Bnguyen276
@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын
To repair that Brady all he did is put it in a humidifier and put it in a pressing plate after and slowly rolled it out with a tool. What he does is not unnatural. He’s just pulling out the dents. He’s not adding anything by pulling out dents and flattening corners. He’s not cutting or adding anything. The wax he has is amazing on PRIZMS and refractors. You can see on the cloth how much dirt and grime it takes off. I feel it’s just part of the prep for me. The cards with ding corners will never catch a 10 again even after a repair. You can catch it under the microscope that it’s not a sharp corner. The highest you’ll get is a 9 with the corners and it looks a lot better. Like you said once a car has been in an accident and repaired you can tell it’s not mint condition. This goes the same for the cards being repaired.
@robertlanham7830
@robertlanham7830 2 жыл бұрын
I kept thinking about a friend who did card shows with me in the late 80s. At one show he bought a 1987 Donruss Bo Jackson RC for $3 because it had one white corner. I watched him go to his table, touch up that corner with a sharpie, and sell it to a kid for $8 five minutes later. This kinda hits me the same way. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@scottl9984
@scottl9984 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s shady as hell. I remember my cousin getting one of the first year upper deck football patch cards. It came with a big white corner and he gave it to me years later. I took a sharpie too it just for myself. Even if it was worth money I wouldn’t be trying to pass it off to others.
@dandigregorio1380
@dandigregorio1380 2 жыл бұрын
90% of cards are upgradable due to poor manufacturing, packaging, and the actual value of the card at $50 a card. I am for doing anything you can to earn the best possible grade.
@josephbernard1666
@josephbernard1666 2 жыл бұрын
Yay first one to like and comment keep up the great content
@GriseldaBSF410
@GriseldaBSF410 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel and the topics as always! I like the fact that alot of your videos are very informative ! On the road to 10k ! Good luck
@wesleyhodge9457
@wesleyhodge9457 2 жыл бұрын
All I’ve ever done is used warm breath and a microfiber cloth to clean the surface on Prizm or Topps Chrome cards. IMO polishing is is a slippery slope because you’re adding a substance to a microfiber cloth and buffing essentially. Also removing dents or repairing corners would be considered altering the card.
@cccards5102
@cccards5102 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Repairing and altering are not the same thing. To continue his car analogy - if my engine is not running properly, I can get it fixed. It is not altered, it is the same engine and now functioning correctly. If I replace the engine that is altering the product. When considering a card - if you purchased a raw card, and the seller repaired a corner (whether they told you or not) and you had it graded and it came back a 10, would you have an issue with it then?
@wesleyhodge9457
@wesleyhodge9457 2 жыл бұрын
@@cccards5102 it can go both ways - using your last point as a reference, I purchased a raw 1962 Topps Fran Tarkenton RC in what looked like really good condition; no creases, sharp corners, really sharp card. I sent it off to be graded and it came back “altered, evidence of re-coloring”. The previous owner had taken a black sharpie and touched up the corners to make them look new, not disclosed it and sold it. Would you consider that right? I wouldn’t, but everyone has their own idea of what’s right and what’s fair. So it really depends on the situation I suppose.
@MV-ht5en
@MV-ht5en Жыл бұрын
@@cccards5102 People want it to be the same as a car but it is not. Cards are a collectible simple object not a complex machine that requires oil, new pieces etc. If thats the case i can use a comparison to weapons. If you have an antique sword and it has a damaged hilt and you shave the wood, refill the holes and coat it its not considered restored and more collectible. Its considered destroyed.
@JohnWilliams-wz9vk
@JohnWilliams-wz9vk 2 жыл бұрын
wipe cards down..with microfiber..towel..with light pressure..work middle to edges...
@josephbernard1666
@josephbernard1666 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t the card be considered altered and not gradable?
@blueodum
@blueodum 2 жыл бұрын
Gradable but should get "Authentic Altered" grade
@sp123
@sp123 2 жыл бұрын
@@blueodum PSA wont grade any cards they consider altered
@MV-ht5en
@MV-ht5en Жыл бұрын
Its not just about grading, just the fact that you buy a card with hidden damage os bad enough even if its for you own personal collection someday it will end up in someone else’s hands
@johnschrieber1270
@johnschrieber1270 2 жыл бұрын
Wiping down the card is all you should be doing. Anything else is "altering" the card. Comparisons don't apply here because the hobby itself already knows that altering a card is frown upon and for the most part won't be graded by any of the big 3 companies. The whole point to repair the card is to send it off to be graded for a high grade and sell it for a profit without telling the buyer the card was repaired. This is so the flipper can make money and not care about the integrity of the hobby because all they see are $$ so it's ethically and morally acceptable in their eyes because it suits to their needs. They just live in their own justifiable and delusional world which in the end will catch up to them because the hobby knows nobody wants to own an altered card. They want an original.
@Showcardsusa
@Showcardsusa 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting subject…wondering how the big 3 can recognize those surface scratches being removed. Looking for industry knowledge here
@josephcirillo5292
@josephcirillo5292 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely interesting. Great topic. Do not see anything wrong with his approach. Trimming a card I do have an issue with.
@t850
@t850 2 жыл бұрын
...I persume knife emoji indicates that magic behid repairing that dent was just trimming the complete edge off...:P
@picksburgh74
@picksburgh74 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely think cleaning is very important but, alterations such as trimming could be bad with this kind of thing. Enjoyed the topic
@leitodwzbill
@leitodwzbill Жыл бұрын
I felt like there's nothing wrong with this kind of repair. It's kind of funny that PSA/BGS would allow you to leave fingerprints/residus/dirty stuff on the cards, but doesn't allow you to remove them or put some other stuff on it? He used humidor to get the card humid, and this is kind of a natural process in my opinion. As long as he's not cutting the card then i don't see anything wrong with it.
@PatMcCarthy420
@PatMcCarthy420 2 жыл бұрын
I use my breath and my t-shirt, just like I've been doing for 25 years lol. Works 👍
@BklynBryan
@BklynBryan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! I bought a Lebron James Topps Bazooka rookie off ebay and it had a slight stain spot. I used breath and microfiber cloth and it was reduced. SGC graded the card a MINT 9.
@starfox1698
@starfox1698 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with cleaning a card, but repairing a card is bad. Not bad as in it should be illegal/fraud, but bad as in it should make the card lose a lot of value.
@jasonhipkins
@jasonhipkins 2 жыл бұрын
Love it I have no problem with it at all. If you send it to get graded and it comes back altered and I guess she didn’t do a good enough job.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone clarify the difference between repairing/prepping and altering? Is not wiping down a card with a microfiber cloth “altering” where is the line drawn?
@starfox1698
@starfox1698 2 жыл бұрын
You wipe down the card to remove dust and fingerprints that are not actually a part of the card. Scratches/dents/dings are actually a part of the cards physically condition and therefore you are altering the card by trying to remove them.
@blueodum
@blueodum 2 жыл бұрын
@@starfox1698 Perfectly put.
@ktc629
@ktc629 2 жыл бұрын
@@starfox1698 wait, no, the card was not created with scratches as part of its design. Scuff and scratches are actually alterations to a card that should not have there by conception. Removing these alterations is actually restoring the card back to its original state.
@starfox1698
@starfox1698 2 жыл бұрын
@@ktc629 It's literally impossible to restore something back to its original state. That would require a time machine or supernatural powers. What you're doing is making it look like it is in its original state in order to increase the value to screw over a potential buyer. If you're doing it for a card you don't plan on selling, or as long as you disclose that you altered it to who you're trying to sell to, I don't care what you do with it (it's still not in its original state but whatever). The shady part is that people do this with the intention of tricking people.
@MV-ht5en
@MV-ht5en Жыл бұрын
@@ktc629 wax refill is not part of the card “Polish” cleaners are mostly acids that destroy the card that lightly cover the damaged parts with the same card
@519Goats
@519Goats 2 жыл бұрын
depends on if the person is aware that its been repaired or not. If a cards been in an accident as a buyer i have the right to know. if the card im buying would be graded a 4 but looks like its now an 8-9 and im paying for an 8-9 price on that card without knowing it used to be a 4 then i feel im being miss led especially if im buying the card to have it graded and it comes back with a grade saying its been tampered with
@mikecavey3892
@mikecavey3892 2 жыл бұрын
If you buy a card and send it to grade it don't matter what's done to card if you send a card to grade and it receives a bad grade its on you regardless...you decide to grade it the results are your responsibility
@ashton8821
@ashton8821 2 жыл бұрын
Great! The secrets out!
@bobo44donemilking51
@bobo44donemilking51 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this video and went to Kurt's card care and ordered his kit after watching his videos ,I love the kit
@Bnguyen276
@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын
For sure, only idiots turn in their cards without wiping them down.
@davidspahr3393
@davidspahr3393 2 жыл бұрын
Pictures can lie but I found out just regular glass cleaner on chrome cards works just has well has wax.
@jeremiahcunningham7215
@jeremiahcunningham7215 2 жыл бұрын
I use eye glass cleaner spray and microfiber cloths. That blue glass cleaner scares me too much
@davidspahr3393
@davidspahr3393 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahcunningham7215 I explained it wrong and that's exactly what I used
@Trading_Cards_Immortal
@Trading_Cards_Immortal 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few cards that has a print line and even bought some off eBay that also has a faint dent and a small surface scratch issue but this might be considered altering to some people. Well at least fixing dents might be, not sure if cleaning it or removing scratches can be but people would like to know whether the card was originally pulled like that or not.
@blueodum
@blueodum 2 жыл бұрын
If you send it for grading and they catch it and grade it as altered, I have no problem with it. Transparency is the key.
@Trading_Cards_Immortal
@Trading_Cards_Immortal 2 жыл бұрын
@@blueodum Chances are they can tell if it’s altered or not. They got the technology for it.
@mattistnick410
@mattistnick410 2 жыл бұрын
The guy saw a void in the space and just as you said it’s detailing.
@urban420cards
@urban420cards 2 жыл бұрын
Cleaning good. Altering, no. If you can remove fingerprints and grime without destroying the surface then go for it. No cutting (unless cards are on a box) or coloring.
@BobBoozle
@BobBoozle 2 жыл бұрын
People are getting cards repaired to sell for higher prices. Let's say an unsuspecting buyer gets a great deal on one of these repaired cards and tries to get it graded. It comes back from the grading company as ungraded because it was altered.
@Bnguyen276
@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын
The repair cards that Kurt has sent has all been cracked and repaired and regraded. He only repair graded cards to get half a point to a point more. He’s not drastically altering the card. He does what a lot of people already do. Bud and cleaning cards and putting his cards in a pressing plate.
@MV-ht5en
@MV-ht5en Жыл бұрын
We dont even have to go as far as it getting graded just the fact that you get a card with hidden damage is enough
@Bnguyen276
@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын
@@MV-ht5en ain’t hidden if it’s fixed permanently, unless you damage it again. Not like those blemishes shows up again on it’s on.
@MB-lu6fs
@MB-lu6fs 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the content bro, keep it up!
@tubenachos
@tubenachos 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with wiping gum residue, dust or wax stains but trimming is a big no-no
@TW-fv2zu
@TW-fv2zu 2 жыл бұрын
NOT Accurate 💯. Those aren't even the SAME picture angles on the Fixed cards. Photo Angle MATTERS... That's why he didn't want to come in your Channel.
@babsthewreckingcrew4294
@babsthewreckingcrew4294 Жыл бұрын
After the repair I could care less what it looked like b4
@codyn5867
@codyn5867 2 жыл бұрын
Good content, as always, sir. No issues with what Kurt/his products are doing. Is the real issue the ‘grading war’ (yielding the most $$ you possibly can) or cleaning your cards? Regardless, if I send in a card or not, I wipe, clean, attempt to fix (without alteration, of course) etc., just as I would if I was (or was not) going to sell my car, house, or any other item for that matter.
@marvelouspacks35
@marvelouspacks35 2 жыл бұрын
I brought this to your attention… I guess it backfired because this is fraud and altering a card affects it’s size and will lead to grading companies return the card as altered and no grade given. This hobby is completely backwards in logic. It’s misleading imo to do this and then the customer sells it to the next person without disclosing. The fact is he does cut and shave edges with the kit. 🤦🏼‍♂️
@RobShim
@RobShim 2 жыл бұрын
I think you’re missing an important piece of information. Most People use Kurt’s tool to prep cards that are being sent in to be graded. BGS has said even if you repair the card and they cannot notice the repair, they deem it unaltered. There was a card that was crossed over with help of well known “card doctor” and that was BGS’s response when shown the evidence of improvement from original picture in another company’s slab.
@kamsayabanha9435
@kamsayabanha9435 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to buy a car that it has salvaged title it may looks pristine but the title kill it. My though tho…
@Bnguyen276
@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын
I’ve read psa statements about card alterations. They say adding paint , cutting , or anything unnatural. What Kurt does is not unnatural. Everyone wipes their cards down before turning them in. Yes this goes a little more beyond but he doesn’t add any additives. That spray is nothing but a quick dry water of some kind that evaporates quickly without leaving a stain. The wax is nothing special either. It just makes it shine and you can see on your cloth how much dirt and grime it pulls off after cleaning. Pulling his corners is him just putting it in a humidifier to make the card rise and pressing it again to flatten it. The corners will never be the same but will be a lot better than it was. It’s like a dent puller for cars, but you can tell the corner is not perfect, but it’s a lot better than what it looked.
@victhebricksportscards9331
@victhebricksportscards9331 2 жыл бұрын
IMO removing scratches and dents is “altering” the card versus using microfiber to remove debris. It’s an ethical/moral issue where you would be misleading someone by not disclosing prior damage. It’s like the car example you gave, what if you bought a car that was in an accident and it was not disclosed on the Carfax, would you feel you got shafted?
@marvelouspacks35
@marvelouspacks35 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@starfox1698
@starfox1698 2 жыл бұрын
If they really think theirs nothing wrong with it they should have no problem disclosing that they altered the card, but they never do because they know it would ruin the value. So what their really saying is they think their is nothing wrong with purposely screwing over a buyer.
@victhebricksportscards9331
@victhebricksportscards9331 2 жыл бұрын
@@starfox1698 exactly, well said
@LilPennyH
@LilPennyH Жыл бұрын
Carfax won't have a small scratch in the details though. It'd be like a rebuilt engine or an accident with replaced panels. It's not the same.
@tiesthatbind5056
@tiesthatbind5056 4 ай бұрын
Polarizing? So be it, such is life yanno?...imo if the restoration doesnt involve any cutting/trimming, paint or removal thereof, (basically anything destructive) and instead uses techniques and products that actually help make the card better the what's the problem!? We ALL want these cards to look the absolute best they possibly can💯💯 why complain?🤔🤦🏽‍♂️😑👎🏽
@tonyknoll4551
@tonyknoll4551 2 жыл бұрын
I see nothing wrong with cleaning or repairing your cards. In my opinion, if these big card companies, put out the quality they are expected to put out....this wouldn't even be common trend. To go back to your car analogy.....lets say Prizm, is equal to a limited edition car release. If some cars come off the line, all dented up, and scratched all to hell, you think that company will send the car out? Very doubtful....yet, Panini has no problem, packing damaged cards, into packs, and selling them, for the same price as a pack with no damaged cards. If everyone has accepted the fact, that Panini's quality control is sub par, then perhaps, people need to accept, that people put the responsibility in their own hands, to get their cards looking the best they can, to maximize the value, of their investments.
@djbe7850
@djbe7850 2 жыл бұрын
Continuing the car analogy, Whats worth more a completely original numbers matching muscle car thats fully authentic to what it is, or a muscle car thats been through 10 different people who all have done their own half ass repairs or performance mods. The alteration of any card is a big deal and much bigger deal in very old rare cards, you don't want jack wad kent to mess with an original Honus Wagner. At the end of the day doing anything more than wipeing off finger prints is a no from me.
@starfox1698
@starfox1698 2 жыл бұрын
It would be morally wrong to sell the beat up car if you tried to sell it as brand new with everything original. It wouldn't be a problem as long as you disclosed the work done to it.
@MV-ht5en
@MV-ht5en Жыл бұрын
You are right and thats the problem you cant just “fix” a card’s scratches, dents and other damage, wax HIDES them and that polish are “light” acids refill the card’s light scratches and even if you clean them he residue will affect the card over time
@the3goodlemons
@the3goodlemons 8 ай бұрын
Clean the shit out of em screw this industry.. Panini Topps Fanatics all of them suck at Quality Control the last couple of years.. I’ve been collecting since the 80’s and the last few years have been utterly ridiculous.. I do not expect 10’s from every pack that’s just not how it goes but i also don’t expect damage every single time i open any box.. Retail, Hobby it doesn’t matter there is at least one damaged card in every box most times it’s multiple cards..If they’re not going to do their job correctly i say clean em, repair do whatever you need to
@lightseek88
@lightseek88 2 жыл бұрын
Did you not include a link to kurts work?
@turnstyle518
@turnstyle518 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't the same be done for trading cards? Pressing and cleaning are part of the comic book and magazine grading process. Comic books cannot be altered, such as cut or retouched ink. The cards in Magic the gathering warp easily and cannot be played without constant repair. Curled cards are prohibited in tournaments. There is nothing wrong with taking care of your cardboard!
@DanTheCardMan2
@DanTheCardMan2 2 жыл бұрын
A surface wipe down is all good, but like comics, any manipulation to the actual integrity of the card should be frowned upon. This includes trimming, colour touch ups, pressing etc. If people want to use this method, I am all for grading companies to make qualified or restored labels like CGC does for comics. History has shown that a market exists for those kinds of collectibles.
@diversifiedcollectibles9242
@diversifiedcollectibles9242 2 жыл бұрын
It should definitely be disclosed as preservation, Unless only wiped with condensation from breath and a lint free cloth but it should stop there and any further detail should be disclosed imo. I'm not knocking it by any means, I think it is pretty awesome wizardry lol BUT it should be disclosed as preservation done and details as to exactly what part or parts of the card were preserved.
@josef8597
@josef8597 2 жыл бұрын
As for me as long there’s no cutting of the card to make it sharper edge or lines . .. just a lot of elbow grease and cleaning I don’t have an issue. As long the person selling the card says it has been cleared. And it repaired..
@JohnBfree29
@JohnBfree29 2 жыл бұрын
Comparison to comics would’ve been better probably,I mean the grading companies do pressing to remove creases and other damage so you get better grades. I see nothing wrong with this process.
@thereverendripps1733
@thereverendripps1733 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone received the kit and “repaired” their card and sent it for grading? Did they grade or get rejected?
@Bnguyen276
@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын
All his cards has been graded by psa, they have no rejected a single one, even his high dollar cards.
@g8risgr849
@g8risgr849 11 ай бұрын
3:10 in and you haven't gotten past what I read in the title.
@jonlamica9216
@jonlamica9216 2 жыл бұрын
people press comics all the time to help the condition of the comic, i see no difference with cleaning or fixing a card where you can.
@dc48664
@dc48664 2 жыл бұрын
The card community has set up rules for what is acceptable and non-acceptable for the last few decades. Wiping down a card is absolutely fine. Adding a foreign substance is not. Filling in with wax is not acceptable to hide scratches, just like adding color to a card to hide surface loss. Grey areas would be something like using painters tape to remove access fibers on the edge of the card.
@sp123
@sp123 2 жыл бұрын
This stuff can get caught by grading companies and they ban people for submitting them
@Wheres-Wolfie
@Wheres-Wolfie 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks!
@michaelnguyen6796
@michaelnguyen6796 2 жыл бұрын
I send my cards to strivingfor10s he's a good card cleaner. I don't care as long I get my card cleaned and graded well.
@lightseek88
@lightseek88 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video, great content, totally agree with you and id go a bit further and say whatever a detailer did to make my car look better im all for and that goes for cards too. I think people that bitch about trimmers are just that.bitching. im from the whatevers clever school of thought. Thanks for bringing this up and you did a great job at considering both sides. Im gonna go out on a limb and say 3 years from now were gonna look back at this video and say "this was an important post in the history of the hobby" I can see the tide starting to change and it will be considered more of an artform what Kurt is doing and this video will prove to be instrumental in bringing about said change, watch.
@briancollects
@briancollects 2 жыл бұрын
Boy oh boy, this one is bound to stir up a hornets 🐝 nest. Lol 😂 Personally, I have absolutely zero issue with “cleaning” (aka: detailing) a card before slabbing it and I would actually prefer it. I actually don’t like seeing “dirty” old cards in a sealed slab. Yea yea, it’s nostalgia, blah blah blah. Get the grime of if you can without altering or damaging it. At least show the card a little TLC before locking it up imho. However, I understand the fear of getting that rejection notice from the grading companies, so I’ve obviously never gone this far. Only a little light wipe down before sleeving it up to this point in my grading efforts. I’m on the fence with filling in the dents and breaks though. I remember the old bondo on my cars as a kid that would eventually fall out. I’d hate to see that fixed edge age and dropout in the slab. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Great video idea 💡 Love it . Enjoy the weekend. ✌️👍
@ThisTheBreaks
@ThisTheBreaks 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe wipe it down with a jewelry cloth but, repairs thats some pwcc sh right there.
@305CardCollector
@305CardCollector 2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t repairing cards… it’s altering them. Big cringe
@suzie9874
@suzie9874 8 ай бұрын
That is not altering. This is restoring. There is a HUGE difference. Altering would be like, taking a car with a 6 cylinder and replacing it with a v8. That is altering. Replacing the 6 cylinder with the same engine is restoring it. Not altering it. Alter is changing from the original state. Restoring is bringing back to original state.
@305CardCollector
@305CardCollector 8 ай бұрын
@@suzie9874 PSA would say otherwise. I’ll stick with the opinion of the company that I’m sending my cards to be graded with…
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 8 ай бұрын
Well clearly PSA doesn’t care either way. Kurt has posted several successful crack and resubs where he has jumped up the grade on a card sometimes as high as 2 points. People need to lighten up. These are sports cards not the freakin Mona Lisa. There is nothing wrong with giving them a good cleaning and making sure they present well. Ask any person in car sales what’s the quickest way to get the most for your trade in and they’ll tell you it’s a good detail. Ask any professional dog show person and they’ll tell you dog grooming before a dog show is paramount to getting the dog to place well.
@suzie9874
@suzie9874 8 ай бұрын
@@305CardCollector If you want to get technical about it. Every card ever made has been "altered" They all come in form of a sheet. Then they are altered and cut.
@suzie9874
@suzie9874 8 ай бұрын
@@RetroHoopCollectibles I totally agree. If PSA says a PSA 8 is valued at say $100.00 and a PSA 7 of same card is say $50.00. Then "altered" card that has been restored to a PSA 8 is valued the same as any other PSA 8. The card is worth around $100.00 bucks. Doesn't matter what the card looked like before. PSA is saying they value it around 100 bucks. In the end that is what matters.
@GeorgeD519
@GeorgeD519 2 жыл бұрын
He's altering cards the band aids will get pulled off
@Bnguyen276
@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын
Not yet has any of his cards has been returned where they refused to grade. He cracked open many high end cards and cleaned them up to resubmitted. He only receive half a point to a point higher. Once the card has been damaged it is nearly impossible to get a 10. Nothing wrong with cleaning up your cards. Everyone I know wipe down their cards before submitting, only idiots would leave finger prints and smudges.
@dnabb420
@dnabb420 2 жыл бұрын
PSA is not going to grade a card if they believe it has wax on it and you could get banned from submitting. At least on their end it’s highly frowned upon.
@BklynBryan
@BklynBryan 2 жыл бұрын
The polish comes off. You wipe it off with a microfiber cloth/ lint free cloth. No harm No foul. TGT, HGA, SGC, and CSG have accepted the cards that I polished with no problems.
@blueodum
@blueodum 2 жыл бұрын
@@BklynBryan If they don't catch it that's on them. But if you sent in your card with a message "hey, just so you know, I added a substance to this card to repair it" then they are going to put an altered grade on it.
@blakeknower
@blakeknower 2 жыл бұрын
Grading companies use tools to grade the cards nothing wrong with using tools
@patrickmcphearson7237
@patrickmcphearson7237 10 ай бұрын
This is a dirty dirty dirty practice. I can understand wiping off the dust but filling in scratches with wax is..... criminal. sorry, stop shilling for this guy.
@wmespinet8273
@wmespinet8273 2 жыл бұрын
Yup u are both crooks!!
@alexvolkov8690
@alexvolkov8690 2 жыл бұрын
Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 389 sentadillas son unos YOURGIRLS.Uno muchas y un buen ejercicio. Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😍👍 Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖 los mortaless abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer.k
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