Mono Black vs Psychatog | Quarterfinals 4 - Quest for the Best Deck Ever

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Cardmarket - Magic

11 ай бұрын

What was the best deck ever? We started with the 27 Standard decks to win a World Championship, played five rounds of Swiss, and now we bring you each match of the Top 8. Andrea is playing Thoralf here and either Black Knight or Psychatog could be knocked out of the tournament.
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@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
♞👾 Decklists: bit.ly/43om5Nb
@DeathEatsCurry
@DeathEatsCurry 11 ай бұрын
The way you guys convey important game information like hands and graveyard stuff without being over-the-top or obnoxious is absolutely top notch.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@ClubbingSealCub
@ClubbingSealCub 11 ай бұрын
Teferi's Response looks like a weird card, but it was a card printed to deal with Rishadan Port at the time.
@Spaccaspecchi
@Spaccaspecchi 11 ай бұрын
Nothing feels better than countering Plague Spores in IPA limited with that thing.
@hopinggirl1722
@hopinggirl1722 11 ай бұрын
ohhh cool ty for the comment :) i was thinking it was only good for strip mine/wasteland ofc but the permanent text does nothing. have a good day
@Lightning_Lance
@Lightning_Lance 11 ай бұрын
such a blowout card. They don't print their anti-hate hate cards like that anymore..
@mightyone3737
@mightyone3737 11 ай бұрын
I suspect it caught the odd Seismic Mage unawares as well, hard to believe they printed Seismic Mage after printing Dwarven Miner. Yeah, hitting a basic is sweet, but 4 mana for a 1/1 is always a terrible rate, and Dwarven Miner keeps way more fit, I kinda suspected that Seismic Mage got that name as a form of anti-fat bullying, the card is a real 'feelsbad' sorta card, having such a hilariously good hoser printed in it's block is just all the more heartbreaking.
@milanmach2379
@milanmach2379 11 ай бұрын
​@@Lightning_Lance Veil of Summer
@theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920
@theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920 11 ай бұрын
I wasnt't expecting this result, but in retrospect it makes sense Also Mengu really plaeyed incredibly, expecially in the last game where it was basically a masterclass on how to play aggro against control I guess Thoralf kept some risky hands knowing they would lose to the guildmage, but still very nice match
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 11 ай бұрын
Excellent remark, he knows exactly how to play it out. Being in the driver's seat against control is the only way to win.
@naz-ghul6327
@naz-ghul6327 11 ай бұрын
exactly, i myself think i'm somehow decent (not good, decent) player (around top 1-2k in arena), and i'd allways drop on my 3rd creature on the board in the 3rd game instead of pumping if i know the oponent deck is control with 0 sweepers (as far as i know there is no sweep in atog deck? i didnt chtekted the decklist but i remember it having no sweeps aside of upheavel).
@qazzaqstan
@qazzaqstan 11 ай бұрын
@@naz-ghul6327 and TBF that is the default play in most cases.
@ivancarabano
@ivancarabano 11 ай бұрын
For me the best monent is in third game, when he explains why is going to play a creature to prevent Thoralf playing fact or fiction.
@caleb7882
@caleb7882 11 ай бұрын
These 90’s decks are so pure and grindy, makes me miss the days of powerful spells and small creatures.
@Phished123
@Phished123 11 ай бұрын
Magic was a lot more fun(not to say it isnt now) when creatures were bad, you had to be a lot more creative in your deck building.
@valentinesdayman
@valentinesdayman 11 ай бұрын
maybe you should have a look at premodern 😀
@jii-ro7083
@jii-ro7083 11 ай бұрын
@@valentinesdayman This is the correct answer
@technyst
@technyst 11 ай бұрын
Pauper plays like this too!
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 8 ай бұрын
Pauper creatures are nowhere near as bad as 90s creatures were.
@jameswilson4328
@jameswilson4328 11 ай бұрын
The fact that the semi finals is two matchups, where each deck is facing off against a deck 10 or 20 years apart is interesting and exciting. Will OG magic prevail?
@Raijimura
@Raijimura 11 ай бұрын
No not even close.
@loui299e
@loui299e 11 ай бұрын
I'm impressed how well Mengu piloted that deck whilst barely knowing half the cards in his deck for game one
@Baritone_RyanHenry
@Baritone_RyanHenry 11 ай бұрын
I'll keep saying it, this series is awesome! I can't wait for the semi-finals
@cameroncorrado3935
@cameroncorrado3935 11 ай бұрын
I have both of these decks from the gold-bordered World Championship series that Wizards used to print. I also thought there was no way that Prismatic Black would beat Psychatog, but when I tested out the matchup on my own, sure enough, Prismatic Black kept coming out on top. A low curve plus cheap interaction is just such a solid way to win Magic games.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Yeah that deck spent the whole weekend proving us wrong!
@DrSiddha
@DrSiddha 11 ай бұрын
The play around fact or fiction at minute 21:30 was impressing! Legend
@obnomadic
@obnomadic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the continued Mengu v Thoralf magic. I just love watching my two favorite magic pros battle it out.
@MajestixComicsClix
@MajestixComicsClix 11 ай бұрын
Whenever Mengu looks at the camera during gameplay is just so funny
@mopanda81
@mopanda81 11 ай бұрын
andrea almost laughing and crying at the same time when the teferi's response blows him out is amazing lol
@BenziTrain
@BenziTrain 11 ай бұрын
Playing a spell into a potential counterspell in order to prevent a FoF is some real heads up playing. Awesome.
@metalfreekz13
@metalfreekz13 11 ай бұрын
Thoralf is my all-time favorite Magic player. Such an awesome and down to earth dude, and super-knowledgeable about pretty much everything in the game!
@philipkelly7369
@philipkelly7369 11 ай бұрын
these decks and this match seem insanely fun. Old school magic was just something else man. Awesome.
@eddiekalista3222
@eddiekalista3222 11 ай бұрын
I love that you're also giving us breakdowns of high level thought processes.
@nathantripathy
@nathantripathy 11 ай бұрын
I love the insight into WHY certain choices are being made. Sometimes upper level magic goes against what you learn are basic automatic things.
@daolothe1043
@daolothe1043 11 ай бұрын
I feel like the main thing this series has taught me is that playing creatures on curve is crazy good. Psychatog has way better cards than Prismatic Black, but still dropped a game because Black was able to get out 2 creatures before Pyschatog got to 2 mana and could start playing counterspells.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 8 ай бұрын
Playing creatures on curve, if the enemy doesnt block kills on turn 4, even with bad 90s creatures. It is the universal clock aroumd which all of the meta ever has been balanced.
@untrainedear
@untrainedear 11 ай бұрын
The most sure I've been of a result of these so far, largely because in my friend group we've played a v similar matchup with the same outcome pretty consistently. Great video as ever - this might be my favourite series so far!
@el_pablodocus
@el_pablodocus 11 ай бұрын
Great videos, thanks Thoralf, Mengu and all the production team @ Cardmarket
@Hopkins0316
@Hopkins0316 11 ай бұрын
We love Mengu!! Definitely enjoy when you guys get to play together and I love this tournament format 🙌
@asdfasdfas364
@asdfasdfas364 6 ай бұрын
The videos with old decks are my favourite. Great editing and commentary too!
@ultimateo621
@ultimateo621 11 ай бұрын
I’m rooting for prismatic black to go all the way now!
@seanh2772
@seanh2772 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately there's no way Temur Energy loses even a single game to this. All the cards have some serious powercreep and are just great value.
@alwaysplaythegame
@alwaysplaythegame 11 ай бұрын
It would take some insane luck for it to win but you never know.
@Mightypi
@Mightypi 11 ай бұрын
Don't pay attention to the propaganda of BIG ENERGY. Prismatic Chad's rise up
@kylecarson3318
@kylecarson3318 11 ай бұрын
What a game! Thanks for the lessons Mengu. Today I learned
@NerzugalRP
@NerzugalRP 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely love Mengu's commentary. Gives a ton of great insights into the plays and decisions and there were line she made that I would have not considered that were perfect with context. Gotta have him back!
@tiresome20
@tiresome20 11 ай бұрын
This is the best series you guys have ever done. Love it
@Leuber
@Leuber 11 ай бұрын
I love how the final Memory Lapse really lapsed Andrea’s mind… well I guess he was too choked, eh stoked to play that 2 damage land destruction. 😂😂 Also: the play and explanation of Mengu top notch on this one. Well especially considering he has to read most of his janky cards as he draws them. Shows all the more he doesn’t need to know the exact cards, but he knows the matchup he is playing, and what that means, to get a strom gald on the game.
@davec8385
@davec8385 11 ай бұрын
Another great video! Can't wait for the semifinals
@alizah8042
@alizah8042 11 ай бұрын
The deck was truly really good but I also feel like there are few MTG players other than Andrea who could have piloted it to victory over a much newer deck!!! That was so cool!!! And I feel like I also learned so much about how to play from him in this video too. Thank you Mengu!!!!
@thievthiev
@thievthiev 11 ай бұрын
These videos are really intersting! It's really fun seeing thos old school decks I had no idea existed
@theBestInvertebrate
@theBestInvertebrate 11 ай бұрын
Great games, was not expecting the out come. Really good plays to with explanation of why they were being made.
@hopinggirl1722
@hopinggirl1722 11 ай бұрын
we love menguuu! also love this series :) cool to see mengu's explanations on the last match too, very insightful
@stephenavignone8836
@stephenavignone8836 11 ай бұрын
Night scape with the terfiris response is insane 10:49
@jazzfestyz9734
@jazzfestyz9734 11 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this vid! Great series
@rentierlucas378
@rentierlucas378 11 ай бұрын
Great outcome. Never would've thought, that this Black deck would make it into the semis :D
@andrewneben7949
@andrewneben7949 11 ай бұрын
Best series yet guy. Masterclass playing by both of you. Tough snap keep game three thoralf! Mengu playing for keeps!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you :D
@nickraupp6104
@nickraupp6104 11 ай бұрын
Wow! At first I couldn't believe prismatic black was in the top 8 but now I can see it! That's honestly kinda crazy, keep up the incredible content!
@moralessanchezoscarelias6412
@moralessanchezoscarelias6412 7 ай бұрын
Very well played you both! Yeah, I remember playing Psychatog and games always felt so close!
@willch1337
@willch1337 11 ай бұрын
Seeing these retro decks going head to head was really satisfying. I love seeing old-school janky cards
@AbesOnAPlaneFilms
@AbesOnAPlaneFilms 11 ай бұрын
Mengucci vs Thoralf, always a thrilling matchup! 😊
@elaguitas409
@elaguitas409 11 ай бұрын
Was hoping to see one of the most recent couple as the last two but these were super cool, love this series!
@locojoe3925
@locojoe3925 11 ай бұрын
I got excited seeing this. What a great way to start my lunch
@CrrackTheSkye
@CrrackTheSkye 11 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this video, really cool series!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@user4x4w4
@user4x4w4 11 ай бұрын
I love this channel. I play EDH but I absolutely love watching them play modern and pauper.
@ShadowAngel005
@ShadowAngel005 11 ай бұрын
This was the best one of the series so far.
@lytking2646
@lytking2646 11 ай бұрын
Great games, love the idea/format! Keep it up
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! We'll do our best to keep you entertained :)
@Awesomesausages
@Awesomesausages 11 ай бұрын
This continues to be absolutely brilliant! :D Feels like next match-up will be the end for Prismatic Black, but who knows, maybe it can throw us a surprise victory against a deck twenty years younger.
@waves-
@waves- 11 ай бұрын
My favorite magic series on KZbin right now :D
@jonathanvogels1690
@jonathanvogels1690 11 ай бұрын
Love the content, been waiting since yesterday
@killacorn1
@killacorn1 11 ай бұрын
I can not WAIT for mono-black versus temur energy. That is going to be such an absolute stop 😂 and yes please bring the mengu back
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Mengu made it to both quarterfinals, we have no choice but to bring him back 🙂
@su0tin731
@su0tin731 11 ай бұрын
On the poll I voted for the aggro deck, even if the creatures are kinda bad for today's standards, the deck looked consistent enough to keep constant pressure, and had enough interaction (better post-sideboard) to have a fighting chance, also the pychatog deck looked a bit on the slower side to fight an aggro deck, that usually fold to boardwipes.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 11 ай бұрын
I do think the Psychatog deck doesn't exactly have a bad creature matchup. However, with these cheap beaters and just enough interaction (especially post board) it is far closer than you would like as a control player.
@cameroncorrado3935
@cameroncorrado3935 11 ай бұрын
It makes me wonder how Psychatog was so much better than all the other decks back in the day when they had access to Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, and Wild Mongrel.
@edstone9890
@edstone9890 11 ай бұрын
@@cameroncorrado3935 most tog decks ran innocent blood also usually 3-4
@zealcrux
@zealcrux 11 ай бұрын
Teferi's Response was such a fun response! Also, I'm loving this series!
@Repaurcas
@Repaurcas 11 ай бұрын
8:10 that delivery cracked me up, good one!
@victorcadenillas5995
@victorcadenillas5995 11 ай бұрын
Keep doing this mates. Brilliant idea! Cheers
@zleverton
@zleverton 11 ай бұрын
Getting to play with Fact or Fictions in standard is a high i have never come down from.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 11 ай бұрын
Fact or Fiction is probably one of the best designed card draw spells in magic. It is a strong card, that can sometimes feel backbreaking. However, the opposition who plays against it, can also subtly infuence the caster to take or not take certain cards, in addition to having more information about their cards. Having innate drawbacks and slight counterplay in the card itself, is what makes it one of the more exciting and fun spells.
@nathanielreichley4640
@nathanielreichley4640 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha Mengu said "still had all these"
@bricelory9534
@bricelory9534 11 ай бұрын
Before seeing the matches: I'm a dinosaur. I want Black to win, but I dont have high hopes. Edit: very clean aggro vs control matchup, really cleanly capitalizing on the stumbles and understanding crucial timings. Such good, clean, classic play all around! Makes my dinosaur bones happy to see such play on both sides!
@Mightypi
@Mightypi 11 ай бұрын
Sublime Lads. Andrea knowing hes the under dog, Thoralf's world class smack talk ( all good nature ofc). The Teffies, the shadow mages, only being able to make coloured mana for life. 10/10. Edditing is also on point, as always
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! :D
@danl9030
@danl9030 11 ай бұрын
"That's what we call Time Walk in the market" at 18:10 really got me lmao
@heavyonthemustardplz
@heavyonthemustardplz 6 ай бұрын
Two really cool decks and players, great match!
@oafkad
@oafkad 11 ай бұрын
The memory lapse was hilarious. Gave me a big grin.
@alfredofranceschini5606
@alfredofranceschini5606 11 ай бұрын
Noooo vabbè ahahah amazing video and mengu plan! Need more mengu content ❤❤
@parkcollie-zd6jo
@parkcollie-zd6jo 11 ай бұрын
Great editing. Even though that second game was long and grindy, it felt like a lot of fun. Kudos.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@lucasrios2089
@lucasrios2089 11 ай бұрын
"nnNICE" Andrea cracks me up
@fxfighter
@fxfighter 11 ай бұрын
This is a great series!
@KlittoD
@KlittoD 11 ай бұрын
Not watched it through yet but Iove Mengu as a guest! He even spits some wisdom of sequencing in the mix!
@Loki-
@Loki- 11 ай бұрын
I see a Cardmarket MTG video, I hear the music, I click.
@TheGameYGO
@TheGameYGO 11 ай бұрын
i don't even play magic, and still i can enjoy this kind of content, keep it up 😄
@DerringerHK
@DerringerHK 11 ай бұрын
This was so good!
@Spundz
@Spundz 11 ай бұрын
Love this series!
@danielbadeo230
@danielbadeo230 11 ай бұрын
i love this...throwback standard decks!
@zephid1868
@zephid1868 11 ай бұрын
I don't really get to play anymore these days but I still watch all your videos because I love everyone's personalities.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
That's so kind of you to say 😃 thank you
@Razomka
@Razomka 11 ай бұрын
Another banger! Huge fan of this series. I kind of want it to come back in another way, like second place decks 😂
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
If it is successful, we'll try it again with an exciting new spin :)
@brokensprites
@brokensprites 11 ай бұрын
That was a lot of fun and very nostalgic for me. Thoralf did a great job with the Psychatog deck, sadly the speed isn't there to keep up with aggro black.
@dks6515
@dks6515 11 ай бұрын
27:02 Mengu says "Pauper legal" haha, that's how you know he's a real pauper player! Every pauper player lives which the curse that they need to instantly mention a pauper staple/legal card once they see it played somewhere lol, so relatable.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
It's a great curse! Because now you also get excited about the first 10 cards of the booster pack :D
@durpien
@durpien 11 ай бұрын
I knew mono black was gunna win. You get to play interaction in non blue and 2/2s arent flashy but they win games.
@danielaserkoff7746
@danielaserkoff7746 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this!!! If you guys ever make a patreon or similar, I’ll be the first to sign up!!
@Monkey12Ninja
@Monkey12Ninja 11 ай бұрын
Rooting for Psycatog
@vernonmeidlinger870
@vernonmeidlinger870 11 ай бұрын
Ahh I see you are also an mtg player of culture
@giacomofasulo3861
@giacomofasulo3861 11 ай бұрын
I've got some bad news
@Monkey12Ninja
@Monkey12Ninja 11 ай бұрын
I’m happy with this result, those were some sweet games
@TimmytheSorcerer
@TimmytheSorcerer 9 ай бұрын
Flanking 😂 love these series. Memory Lapse is so good btw, best card in Homelands!
@shenirl
@shenirl 11 ай бұрын
You guys are so cool doing this :):)
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@a.njeshi4749
@a.njeshi4749 11 ай бұрын
Whoever is your music director, deserves a raise!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
I wish we had a musical director but it's just me making the videos for now 😅 but thank you! 😃 - Carl
@mgsBicycleO9
@mgsBicycleO9 5 ай бұрын
Some low to the ground honest Magic. Great watch.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 11 ай бұрын
Excellent games and a very fun video. It would help if you would consider playing out the Psychatog kill completely, or briefly explain how Thoralf was going to win with it. I know what it does, but especially with this series there might be a lot of players that have no idea how the deck or even the card itself functions. Other than that, it was superb, thank you.
@wobwub8188
@wobwub8188 11 ай бұрын
Does he just pump it by removing his graveyard?
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
I know 🙄 I always tell Andrea not to shortcut and he always does it anyway 😅 - Carl
@lucasrios2089
@lucasrios2089 11 ай бұрын
Andrea made me laugh so much in this one! Always a treat to have him in the videos.
@AulaGeschrabbel
@AulaGeschrabbel 11 ай бұрын
Yay mengu gameplay! I love your video quality and mengu gameplay.❤
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! :) and of course, we'll invite Andrea as often as we can
@mageius
@mageius 11 ай бұрын
As a follow up to my last comment after looking at the deck list for the mono black deck I actually say that's chance of winning it all. It's creature lineup may not be good but it has a lot of good instant and sorceries and control tools that actually could make it a bit harder for it to lose.
@moonbreaker
@moonbreaker 11 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH I WANTED TO WATCH THIS SO BAD!!!
@pookygallahad4749
@pookygallahad4749 11 ай бұрын
Love to see this, psychatog is a house in a commander deck of mine
@matthewbenoit3098
@matthewbenoit3098 11 ай бұрын
Great match. Love how both decks had Atogs 😂
@rkk667
@rkk667 11 ай бұрын
Great insights mengu
@Duskraven377
@Duskraven377 11 ай бұрын
The power of basic aggro vs control. 🎉🎉🎉
@martylund8411
@martylund8411 11 ай бұрын
Don't underestimate the relevance of Contagion, though. It basically hard-countered the 'Tog forcing you to have to cover it with a Counterspell, maybe multiples once the sideboard brings in Pyroblast. Without Contagion in the equation (0 mana casts FTW) you could basically windmill the Psychatog on Turn 3 and win the game.
@nicobaur3076
@nicobaur3076 11 ай бұрын
Id love to see a pauper game again , the two decks I’d like to see is naya slivers and or bogles . Loving the content these games are so much fun too . Much love
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
We all play a lot of pauper behind the scenes, we'll definitely be showcasing the format again once we are done this series :)
@Faustized
@Faustized 11 ай бұрын
Amazing series!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! :)
@jeremylippert4222
@jeremylippert4222 11 ай бұрын
The power of memory lapse at the end. 😂
@GamerayVideos
@GamerayVideos 11 ай бұрын
Nice series!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Hopefully you'll enjoy the next 3 episodes :)
@fabiogarzaro8272
@fabiogarzaro8272 11 ай бұрын
This was unexpected lol, amazing games
@LevVL
@LevVL 11 ай бұрын
Good visualization how skill can help to win the game, very cool game thank you
@Jorg05111980
@Jorg05111980 7 ай бұрын
I also always said Stronghold!!! Wow...reading cards remains something important in MTG ;-)
@leonardoross8133
@leonardoross8133 2 ай бұрын
24:13 pasta yu!!
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