Cards We Wish We Could Change | EDHRECast 233

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Жыл бұрын

One more mana? Three less toughness? This week we discuss fixes that might make certain cards healthier for Commander.
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@Kaisingsens
@Kaisingsens Жыл бұрын
Change "your opponents" to " target opponent" on dockside and it's fine
@JSBozick
@JSBozick Жыл бұрын
Yuriko’s commander ninjutsu ability should definitely have been mentioned, although I know Gavin Verhey already discussed his regret for not adding commander tax to that cost.
@alexanderthegreat3424
@alexanderthegreat3424 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I watched that too. I understand Gavin's regret, but there is already a precendent to that "bypassing commander tax" with Derevi's ability (which is even easier to do so than Yuriko's commander ninjutsu). Nevertheless, I think Yuriko's design (commander ninjutsu and its other ability) is already superb as it requires deck building restrictions to optimize its ability. But for duel commander (1v1), it is just inch closer to be banned (as Derevi is banned in duel commander) once further good high CMC cards that could be easily and effectively utilized by Yuriko decks proliferate the MTG card pool.
@Zookmottin
@Zookmottin 7 ай бұрын
That would just ruin the card. Completely.
@alexanderficken9354
@alexanderficken9354 6 ай бұрын
​@@Zookmottinoh no you have to pay the normal tax as if your commander cost 4 oh nooooooo
@altromonte15
@altromonte15 Жыл бұрын
Dockside extortionist should have extort and "whenever this card extorts, create a treasure token" It's right there in the name
@ToxicAtom
@ToxicAtom Жыл бұрын
A permanent that's nor black or white with extort would be cool, if a little bit weird
@KBergs
@KBergs Жыл бұрын
They could print Dockside extortionist extortionist and have that design
@styleanthology90
@styleanthology90 Жыл бұрын
That’s not dockside that’s just a black card
@samuelrobinson4638
@samuelrobinson4638 Жыл бұрын
Love that outro 🤣 I would have been disappointed without at least one bleep, and you didn't disappoint
@AxillaryPower2
@AxillaryPower2 Жыл бұрын
My biggest "what I wish I could change" would be adding colors to format staples. I don't fundamentally have issues with Teferi's protection; there should be powerful cards. I think it'd be a perfect Azorious card. Heroic intervention, perfect Selesnya card. Smothering Tithe, Orzohv, or what Daina said and put more color pips. In general, I'd have the color weight of all cards be higher. By and large, I'd try to make super staples less staply by limiting the decks they're allowed in so they're seen less often.
@danielsniff6405
@danielsniff6405 Жыл бұрын
I really like that idea in concept, but I think the biggest problem with this idea is that it basically completely obliterates mono-colored decks and boosts the power of 5 color decks even farther. After all, the only color combo that actually benefits from this change is 5 color, since all of the other combos are losing staples.
@DrOmnipotent
@DrOmnipotent Жыл бұрын
Op Agent should have been orzhov
@AxillaryPower2
@AxillaryPower2 Жыл бұрын
@@danielsniff6405 Yeah, I agree. I'm just imagining another universe where the number of colored pips is a more utilized power axis of cards, where color heavy cards are the norm rather than the exception, and going 5-color would mean needing to pick objectively worse cards, or going suuuper heavy on color fixing, because the best cards are too mana specific. Anyways, that would be a totally different game than the one in this time line.
@jmanwild87
@jmanwild87 Жыл бұрын
@@AxillaryPower2 the problem with color intensive stuff is color fixing is so good now that in 3 colors or less i rarely get color screwed and the only time it stuck out was in a 5 color deck that i desperately needed green in. Hell my mardu lifegain deck i play stuff like true conviction. Unless we go like 4 or 5 color pips it can be remarkably easy to play whatever you want
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 6 ай бұрын
To be fair to Smothering Tithe, it was pretty clearly a part of the effort to help shore up white’s weaknesses in commander. As such, making it Orzhov would probably be a bit beside the point.
@ckeiji
@ckeiji Жыл бұрын
Oh man I am just tuning into the episode and noticed I got the shout out haha thats awesome! Great pronunciation on my last name too, Hurrah! Love the content, keep it rolling!
@AdamGrayson
@AdamGrayson Жыл бұрын
Designing cards for a meta, two years in advance, blindly, without any knowledge of what's being released before or after makes problems. Some of these duds will one day give life to absolute bangers.
@tomikvrona1681
@tomikvrona1681 Жыл бұрын
Questing Beast should be Mardu. 1RWB. Read its text: Vigilance, deathtouch, haste Questing Beast can’t be blocked by creatures with power 2 or less. Combat damage that would be dealt by creatures you control can’t be prevented. Whenever Questing Beast deals combat damage to an opponent, it deals that much damage to target planeswalker that player controls.
@RedCometNurse
@RedCometNurse Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree, but then how would Green continue to be dominant?
@xxhellspawnedxx
@xxhellspawnedxx Жыл бұрын
@@RedCometNurse I don't think that Questing Beast is a big contributor to green's superiority, frankly. It's a big word soup with some specific areas of usefulness, and that's really all it is.
@maxphilippe803
@maxphilippe803 Жыл бұрын
The "cant' be blocked by creatures with power 2 or less." part is a green ability. I agree that it could have been multicolor but green should've still been one of those colors. I think ideally it should have been a different design altogether. A creature with 6 abilities with two of them being so situational they get forgotten is just a bad design.
@shondralyon-brown1603
@shondralyon-brown1603 Жыл бұрын
I think another way to cut back on Dockside Extortionist power just a bit is make it non-token artifacts and enchantments that way the person who is casting it isn't able to capitalize on other people having lots of treasure.
@knightofsouls
@knightofsouls Жыл бұрын
I'm going to add eater of virtue, such a cool underpowered equipment. Each should add a specific virtue counter when exiled so if its bounced or if you have multiple you aren't at a disadvantage. Alternatively, when it leaves the field all cards exiled with it should go back to the graveyard. It's so vulnerable and it takes legitimate effort to set up, I really wish they added either of those conditions. Really fun to play.
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 6 ай бұрын
Another solution would be to give it hexproof or indestructible (or ward - exile three creatures from your graveyard), just enough to make it more difficult to remove.
@Saetanigera
@Saetanigera Жыл бұрын
Mark has talked about not using hybrid mana for commander, but you've made a strong case for more 2/x mana values
@Eyahm
@Eyahm Жыл бұрын
Snapcaster Mage should be red
@fernandotanigushi8310
@fernandotanigushi8310 Жыл бұрын
HELL YEAH. RED IS MUCH MORE ALIGNED WITH CASTING INSTANTS AND SORCERIES FROM THE GRAVE THAN BLUE
@haseltine1560
@haseltine1560 Жыл бұрын
I love snap caster and I play izzet so I’ve never had to think about that really but I agree
@bye1551
@bye1551 Жыл бұрын
Yesssss and rhystic Study and remora should be white.
@knightofsouls
@knightofsouls Жыл бұрын
Sylvian Library feels like a black or blue card too
@fernandotanigushi8310
@fernandotanigushi8310 Жыл бұрын
@@knightofsouls yeah, it feels both
@lifebreacher7629
@lifebreacher7629 Жыл бұрын
Matt... I felt the same way about Geode Golem. Thought it was sick.. but not so much. Glad I'm not the only one. Thx
@green_dragon_knight
@green_dragon_knight Жыл бұрын
Just came here from listening to the podcast version to say - Chase (or Joey), that bleep right at the end was fantastic- I take my hat off to you 😂
@Beckola44
@Beckola44 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 4 Commanders that have Eminence. They can just sit in the Command Zone and can use their abilities.
@NewOldEBM
@NewOldEBM Жыл бұрын
It's really only a problem for 2 of those cards.... And honourary Oloro
@xxhellspawnedxx
@xxhellspawnedxx Жыл бұрын
That point about splashable spells, I really resonated with that one. This is what I would call elegant design - A small change, which doesn't really negatively impact the decks those cards were intended for but stops their overuse outside of those contexts. Though, with the amount of treasure we have knocking about these days, I don't think that it would make as big a difference as one would wish. What we really need going forward is more treasure hate. There's a handful of cards that shut treasures down, but since they remain on the field it's pretty much a given that if you drop one of those hate cards it'll just get sniped by the player who wants access to his elventy treasures.
@okgut2033
@okgut2033 Жыл бұрын
For tarasque i think it would be cool to do the Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle sleep effect. May it produce colorless mana and give it a proper coloridentity. But as soon it wakes up, well then give me doom pleace!
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 6 ай бұрын
“When the last sleep counter is removed, destroy all nonlegendary permanents. Then, each player searches their library and graveyard for five cards and exiles the rest, then puts their chosen cards on top of their library in any order.” Very much brings about an end of the world feeling and puts each player on Doomsday. Also, it’s a “symmetrical but not really” board wipe because let’s be real, you’re not running many nonlegendary permanents.
@troacctid
@troacctid Жыл бұрын
The Tarrasque isn't an Eldrazi-level threat. It's more like a Godzilla-level threat-an unstoppable, unkillable kaiju that will crush anything in its path.
@BladedCreed
@BladedCreed Жыл бұрын
But… aren’t the eldrazi that?
@malmasterson3890
@malmasterson3890 Жыл бұрын
Even that's a bit of a stretch. Compared to old school lore the modern Tarrasque that they likely used as the base for this design is just like this. All hype, but little threat. Not even close to being the strongest Stat block in official material anymore.
@duckemperorofgk2112
@duckemperorofgk2112 Жыл бұрын
@@BladedCreed Eldrazi are otherwordly godlike beings that eat entire worlds while their true forms remain outside of said worlds.
@BladedCreed
@BladedCreed Жыл бұрын
@@duckemperorofgk2112 Yeah I know. That technically makes them a bigger threat than godzilla
@Ryadic
@Ryadic Жыл бұрын
Changing the casting cost of Dockside can really knock it down. Make it so it doesn't really come up that mana positive. There have been times I've cast it and only got 3 or 4 treasures. So if it cost 2RR or RRR you're going to see less abuse. Also making it more mana restrictive so it can't be played in every deck that runs red. If it was RRR, I would not be running it in anything above 2 colors.
@Kestral287
@Kestral287 Жыл бұрын
On the subject of Crash Through: the fact that it's a red cantrip that doesn't target actually gives it some extra utility. It's easier to make Red mana than Blue - Birgi and the assorted rituals are super obvious examples. But most red cantrips target which means sometimes you get two for oned when they snipe your Balmor or Veyran or whatever when you Crimson Wisps it. You 'lose' the trample sure but you aren't realistically playing the card for the trample. It's one of those cards that seems good at level zero but then bad at level one but at level two it's awesome again, because the three most important things on the card are not trample.
@JJMickeyMedia
@JJMickeyMedia Жыл бұрын
If Dana hadn't brought up the point about Smothering Tithe being too splashable, I would have.
@brendans1983
@brendans1983 Жыл бұрын
I see what you did there 🤣
@pedroarthurpereira3679
@pedroarthurpereira3679 Жыл бұрын
I would like the text of Dennick, Pious Apparition was: Whenever one or more creature cards are put into graveyards from anywhere, investigate. (just that, without the restriction "This ability triggers only once each turn.")
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 5 ай бұрын
"March of the Machine" + sacrifice ability = infinite sacrifice, ETB and LTB :D
@jacobbecicka2291
@jacobbecicka2291 Жыл бұрын
If dockside’s treasures came in tapped it would be even more broken for the next player who makes a clone of it and the first player can’t sacrifice their treasures so the 2nd player gets even more treasures.
@PraetorGix
@PraetorGix Жыл бұрын
Regarding the tweaking of color pips not being enough and the lack of reasons to play monocolor, I propose this: imagine you had a say, white card that reads "this spell costs W more to cast for each color in your commander's color identity other than white" That way players cannot just put more duals to circumvent costs, they also have to lose tempo if they want to play the thing in multicolor, to the point the card is just too overcosted in 4 or 5 colors. It is also a scalable drawback, 2 colors can play it more easily than 5, and more importantly monocolor has the best version of the card. Watcha think?
@JDP5127
@JDP5127 Жыл бұрын
I like that, but it does add a lot of text to the card, which is a real cost. That is not saying it is a bad idea, just that it would have to be used selectively.
@PraetorGix
@PraetorGix Жыл бұрын
@@JDP5127 Agreed, it's a lot of text. But I pictured it being used selectively as you said, on some powerful sorceries and instants with simpler effects, and not as a regular mechanic.
@samuelrobinson4638
@samuelrobinson4638 Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion! A great way to implement this would be to keyword that ability, so you could then cut the reminder text from the card when more space is required. For example: Tithe {W} (This cards costs {W} more to cast for each colour in your commanders colour identity) I think this effect is genius, and something wizards should have thought of years ago. I suppose it is specific to commander though
@PraetorGix
@PraetorGix Жыл бұрын
@@samuelrobinson4638 Glad you like it! Your solution of keywording it is quite good, it wouldn't solve the wall of text on the first printings of the mechanic because it'd need reminder text anyway, but in the long run as it gets more recognized it would be a great solution. Even giving the ability for r&d to alter the "tithe" cost to more mana or even things like life.
@samuelrobinson4638
@samuelrobinson4638 Жыл бұрын
@@PraetorGix I think keywording it is the way to go for sure, as it can be easily tweaked a reused in the future. With correct wording, you could make it function in a tonne of different ways to create some really unique feeling cards
@pauldyson8098
@pauldyson8098 Жыл бұрын
Balmor is so awesome. I agree with Matt about Crash through but, if you're running Gale in the deck, it's a sorcery to recast when you cast an instant. I think that might be one reason it's showing up in lists.
@peadrianlastname
@peadrianlastname Жыл бұрын
The nephalim from ravnica should have been legends. Their flavor text is stuff like "the earth itself is broken by its steps" "when it awoke the heavens screamed", they all have super interesting and some unique/powerful abilities, and in the books when they run into dune brood teysa calls it "the dune brood nephalim" implying it's the only one.
@mong0038
@mong0038 Жыл бұрын
Skullbriar got a huge help with the rules change. I love my Skullbriar deck. He's very hard to deal with.
@brendans1983
@brendans1983 Жыл бұрын
Skullbriar is a beast til everyone knows how to deal with him. When he costs 8 to cast on turn 6 and he only has 3 counters on him, because ur playgroup understands his power is in his haste and cmc, then you start to realise he's a very linear commander.
@dallinsilver3175
@dallinsilver3175 Жыл бұрын
@@brendans1983 I've been puzzling over my skullbriar deck for years for this very reason. Do i cut some of the splashy cards for just simple protection/reanimation effects? Or keep the splashy cards since skullbriar will cost too much mana eventually?
@Fogshaper
@Fogshaper Жыл бұрын
Cloudstone & Dockside is a common combo in cEDH, Dockside + Sabertooth is a relatively common combo in cEDH and the entire format plays Phantasmal Image mainly because Dockside exists. Breach lines are often fueled with sacrificing and recasting the Dockside, too. I think changing it to a cast trigger would weaken it, but I don't think it'd matter in the grand scheme of things in cEDH.
@hobez64
@hobez64 11 ай бұрын
Just realizing now that blinking Toothy is ridiculous. You blink Toothy, it leaves, but the blinks needs to finish before the leaves the battlefield trigger happens, which means Toothy is on the field for when it draws the cards off its own ability so it gets its counters back
@jacob510
@jacob510 Жыл бұрын
Dockside having an etb is what makes it a cEDH staple. If you changed it to a cast trigger not only would that make it impossible to stop the player from getting treasures as now you can't even counter it, it would lose all its combos to generate infinite treasures that cEDH wants. Don't get me wrong it's on the too powerful pls nerf side of cards but I think you guys misunderstood how/why it's used in cEDH. My recommendation to fix it would be increase it's Mana cost or make the treasures enter tapped
@verv5737
@verv5737 Жыл бұрын
On a similar vein to how the Ikoria free spells should cast more without the Commander, why on Earth does Boseiju only cost 1G, before the cost reduction?
@seandun7083
@seandun7083 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they removed the cost reduction ability and instead had them enter tapped unless you control a legendary creature or planeswalker.
@leonfriedemann9151
@leonfriedemann9151 Жыл бұрын
I think for dockside: you could add the sentence exil if it leaves the battlefield. Stil it would be Broken.
@dumbdom4videos436
@dumbdom4videos436 Жыл бұрын
That out outro was gold
@tysonperna8844
@tysonperna8844 Жыл бұрын
On that note of white cards being nerfed for some reason, I've never understood why Scion of Vitu-Ghazi had "if you cast it from your hand." I don't think a card that populates when you blink it would be busted.
@seandun7083
@seandun7083 Жыл бұрын
The problem is if you make a token copy of it you don't want it to be able to infinitely populate itself.
@FightinTheGorlax
@FightinTheGorlax Жыл бұрын
Tarrasque + Mimeoplasm is pretty nifty since using it as the base for mimeo makes the cast clause work
@andreusemanuel4868
@andreusemanuel4868 Жыл бұрын
The bleep was magistral
@chips8623
@chips8623 Жыл бұрын
It should've been Dockside Extortion, a sorcery for the same mana cost. it's much harder to loop/abuse a sorcery. not impossible, just not laughably easy.
@xxalsinusxx2038
@xxalsinusxx2038 Жыл бұрын
The issue isn't that dockside can be abused for infinite mana in 2 card combos, because we have more than you could ever imagine amounts of combos that do just this. This isn't the issue. The issue is artifacts are too strong and prevalent so Dockside always lands nicely on board to make enough mana for the caster to usually win a game if they have their combo pieces. If we had more common and well costed artifact hate in all colors there'd be less targets for Dockside to pop off. The only way you could make it weaker is putting a treasure cap of like 5 or something on it, or make it a 4 drop or something. It can still be abused but this way by itself is not so explosive.
@Academecha
@Academecha Жыл бұрын
Matt saying " and make it (cloudstone curio) a $25 card too" made me giggle. That one has been $60+ for a while now and I'm so glad I got one for my Animar deck when it was about $5 12 years ago
@jessesandburg
@jessesandburg Жыл бұрын
Remove enchantment part from dockside. Make it a 4 mana cost and tapped treausres. Boom. Still strong. Way more casual friendly.
@Playingwithproxies
@Playingwithproxies Жыл бұрын
Just make it artifacts target opponent controls no mana change no tapped treasures.
@jessesandburg
@jessesandburg Жыл бұрын
@@Playingwithproxies target opponent can sac treasures in response and dockside yields zero treasures unless they got mana rocks or other artifacts. Would make it pretty dog shit.
@Playingwithproxies
@Playingwithproxies Жыл бұрын
@@jessesandburg it wouldn’t be dog shit but it wouldn’t be anything like it is. You could easily net 1-3 mana but you can hold that mana for a turn and get a big boost.
@ozzwich
@ozzwich Жыл бұрын
I think monologue tax could be fixed if it triggered off any player's second spell. It would allow you to trigger it yourself, maybe a flavor fail though.
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 5 ай бұрын
Maybe a "create a Treasure token for each other spell that player has cast this turn" would be appropriate
@jongailey85
@jongailey85 Жыл бұрын
Agreed with a lot of this. There needs to be more incentive with playing mono-colored decks. I find that the best and most efficient ramp in the game can only be run in multi-color decks. There need to be more reasons to play mono-colored commanders. For example, talismans and signets that can only be used to cast artifact or mono colored spells.
@piralos1329
@piralos1329 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of this, we did recently see a bit of support that functions best in mono or low colour decks, in the theme of "three or more lands that share a name". Naturally that's easiest to hit in mono colour decks, and more things which reward that provide rewards which benefit mono colour or two colour decks far more than bigger multicolour decks!! Also encourages more basics, which is always delightful.
@dallinsilver3175
@dallinsilver3175 Жыл бұрын
That beep at the end! Lol
@QuestionMarc
@QuestionMarc Жыл бұрын
Tempting Contract is another card that does nothing as written. If they worded it this way it might do something: "At the beginning of each player's first main phase, that player may create a Treasure token. If an opponent does, you create a Treasure token."
@ZypherWildfire
@ZypherWildfire Жыл бұрын
[Monologue Tax] works great with cards like [Possibility Storm], [Hive Mind], [Sunbird's Evocation], [Knowledge Pool], anything than Cascades, or the like.
@makingnoises2327
@makingnoises2327 Жыл бұрын
healing salve should have been Hero's Return, "Return up to three land cards from your graveyard to the battlefield."
@ingolf82
@ingolf82 Жыл бұрын
Dockside should be cast trigger, but temur sabertooth fixes that, but still it's better than ETB and Smothering tithe should say "When ever a player draws a card except for the first one they draw that turn, create a treasure". Then you needed extra hoops to jump through to make sure you got a treasure, like Howling mine, which draws everyone 2 cards a turn.
@JuQmadrid
@JuQmadrid Жыл бұрын
In defense of the Tarrasque, the Ward doesn't end at EoT, so it gets permanent pseudo-Hexproof.
@styfen
@styfen Жыл бұрын
The main thing I would like to contribute to this is: Dana, you really REALLY do not need to worry about cEDH when you're talking about changes to the format. cEDH isn't a set of cards. It's a mindset, it's a way of playing. Whatever the card pool is, the cEDH agreement is 'Sit down, play to win, use whatever cards get you there.' If a card is changed/banned that doesn't affect the communities ethos.
@Dannerrrr
@Dannerrrr Жыл бұрын
dockside extortionist: create a treasure for each opponent with an artifact in play. or make the treasures enter tapped.
@maxbodifee3263
@maxbodifee3263 Жыл бұрын
Good point. Mizzium Mortars has a fair overload cost at least. Dockside should have 'target opponent' to make it fair.
@eLECHtricity
@eLECHtricity Жыл бұрын
As someone who has a 4 color deck that can consistently cast 2 different ultimatums on curve, color pips aren't as restrictive as people think. Also cloudstone curio is already a $40 card Also people are complaining about bootleggers stash when the card is so niche--its only good in token or treasure decks because it is not a very powerful effect for 6 mana. I said this during spoiler season, pulled one and unloaded it for $28 and now its under $8. Severely misevaluated. I would like to see a 1 mana artifact that says "artifact tokens enter the battlefield tapped" and more stifle effects in colors other than blue.
@cfrydlewicz
@cfrydlewicz Жыл бұрын
If you put more than one Lore counter on a Saga that's at one, do you get the second chapter trigger?
@Reashu
@Reashu Жыл бұрын
Yes, covered in 715.2b.
@mz-wy9sf
@mz-wy9sf Жыл бұрын
1:00:35 :D
@dylanvolckaert404
@dylanvolckaert404 Жыл бұрын
Ahahah, comedic beeps are my favourite
@stephenbrown3261
@stephenbrown3261 Жыл бұрын
Mine is incredibly niche, but I really wish there was a rules tplating that allowed Licids to work with Mairsil, the Pretender. Especially Dominating Licid.
@Wiwwia
@Wiwwia 4 ай бұрын
As someone who plays Balmor in a Narset list, the crash through take is just wrong. I play in a VERY high powered pod, and the results when casting crash through and getting to keep chaining cantrips together + getting trample to go wide, is insane.
@Naturessightsandsounds7040
@Naturessightsandsounds7040 Жыл бұрын
Dockside was busted last year before the treasure support honestly.
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 5 ай бұрын
8:30 Fixed DOckside Extorsionist: 1RR of casting cost, ETB trigger only if casted and counting artifacts only. That would be ok my picks: -) Herald of War. An angel reducing costs of Angel and Human spell? Nice! But not in a 3WW angel AND after attacking (she counts the +1/+1 counters on her) ... her cost reduction is unachiavable! Make her a 2/3 for WWW and maybe with also Battle Cry, she then would be ok -) Steel overseer: give him a "w: Target artifact creature gain haste until end of turn", so he's still useful -) Angel of Condemnation: both her "2W, tap" abilities are a bit overcosted to actually be used in mono-white or selesnya angels deck: a "WW, T" would be more fitting to me -) Kazandu Tuskcaller / Echo Mage / Brimstone Mage : halve the Level Up cost! It would be enough, I guess. And/or a trigger effect giving them a level counter -) Defiler of Vigor: lower it to 5/5, which is enough stat, and give the +1/+1 counter to just ONE single creature -) Defiler of Faith: White is so bad at ramping that ramping with a 5 mana valued creature is .. almost useless: Make it a 3/4 for 2WW and it's ok
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
Anything that mills half your library should say "shuffle" first so you can deal it into 2 piles to save time. Otherwise you have to count the cards twice (first to find out how many there are and a second time for the mill) Scrambleverse would waste much less time if instead of picking a random player each time it just shuffled all permanents and went in turn order
@captainspazam
@captainspazam Жыл бұрын
Balance idea for dockside: Instead of ETB: make the treasures It instead had: Haste Tap and Exile Dockside Extortionist: Make the treasures. That way, it's still great for CEDH in terms of quick value, but doesn't break casual formats. Then again at that point you might as well just turn dockside into a sorcery, so I dunno lol
@Doombot2point0
@Doombot2point0 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea and while your point about the sorcery is valid to some extent, don't forget the set it was designed for had a pirate creatures theme etc so it made sense to throw this on a relevant creature body. I definitely think this should've been something similar to what you wrote because having to wait a whole turn and then tap and exile is a fairly hefty cost for a power effect. It gives the table a turn to get rid of it etc. plus you can't just blink it etc. Easy way to fix it for sure.
@JDP5127
@JDP5127 Жыл бұрын
I think rather than treasures it should just add red mana to your pool. It still keeps its explosive value, and hoses other treasure decks, but limits it to immediate use of the mana.
@Doombot2point0
@Doombot2point0 Жыл бұрын
@@JDP5127 Good suggestion as well, though less flavorful (treasure and pirates going hand in hand) for what that is worth.
@JDP5127
@JDP5127 Жыл бұрын
@@Doombot2point0 True. I had forgotten about the treasure theme in the set it came from, and I don't actually see it often in my playgroup as we are lower budget.
@bombatwombat3680
@bombatwombat3680 Жыл бұрын
as a sythis player myself I kinda do agree with what you said about card draw. Between Sythis and the other enchantresses in my deck I can draw 10 or more cards per turn and it's not super healthy
@TheStephenation
@TheStephenation Жыл бұрын
You can take away my extra card draws when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. And there will be a lot of them to pry, on account of all the enchantments I've been casting.
@burningpapersun1
@burningpapersun1 Жыл бұрын
The wall deck needs all the help it can get so I think it getting a card for every defender put in play isn't bad.
@TheAngelRaven
@TheAngelRaven 4 ай бұрын
Tarrasque is in my Jodah deck because it's a 9 CMC that can role into Atraxa. The issue is, again, it doesn't have Trample. Such a cool card ruined by 1 missing keyword.
@TeaHauss
@TeaHauss Жыл бұрын
I think at this point, there are enough legendary creatures that fuel themselves with more than two abilities, that they can design more pairs and trios comfortably (ala "partner with"). Like, having the commands that are one time effects do multiple things feels fair, but having permanents do it is kinda nutty. Honestly, I'd wish more card advantage commanders came with a "once per turn", tap ability, and/or an on-cast trigger, golos or chulane being primary offenders. ALSO the tarrasque is a godzilla reference, and was woefully underwhelming
@yoshiman9521
@yoshiman9521 Жыл бұрын
my fix for dockside would be target opponent instead of each. i think it should be a way to punish greedy players that play a bunch of rocks
@yeahhhhh
@yeahhhhh Жыл бұрын
Love to play with the knobs.
@winstonsmith5483
@winstonsmith5483 Жыл бұрын
Generally: more pips for staples would help indeed, I have tons of decks and this would be a factor in 5-color decks when it comes to let's say Smothering Tithe, if it would have 3 white pips I wouldn't include it in some decks that have them yet. Also regarding Dockside, red is most of the time a color which is the least present in multicolor decks, so giving him like 2 pips would make a difference indeed I'd say. The freecast cycle from Ikoria: Make it cost 1 mana and only castable when you have a commander out would fix it, in that case you could even give it cycling in case it is dead I think and it would fit since Ikoria has the cycling mechanic. Dockside Extortionist: Additionally to tapped treasures, target opponent instead of each, making more answers (like giving a player hexproof) valid against Dockside as well as tame him down. If that's still too powerful you could choose artifact or enchantment when it enters and generate the treasures just regarding one of the types, not both, but I think those 2 changes would be enough. And yes, Dockside was always a problem, it was from the very beginning a pushed stupid card and people slept on it and I frankly don't know why it took my 25 copies to skyrocket in price as I purchased them for a price which most people wish they could buy him now. I just didn't stockpiled more of them because I was afraid of reprints and was naive enough to think they would be so nice to reprint him in Commander Legends. Silly me, the greed assessment was off.. Great challenge regarding Spoils of Evil in mill-decks, I have included it some time ago since I also believe it is very good in that type of decks and it has not let me down yet. Alms Collector and Song of the Worldsoul are not as bad as you think I'd say, they are just way more niche. Alms Collector for example is a balanced wheel card and Song of the Worldsoul should just be played if you have some ridiculous tokens like the 10/10 Eldrazi ones or Godsire tokens etc. However, Cartographer's Hawk, Tempt with Glory and the Seraphic Greatsword are indeed mindboggingly bad
@jcalendar882
@jcalendar882 Жыл бұрын
Aura shards must target an enchantment or artifact. Great henge be a simic card.
@TheFirstTriplefife
@TheFirstTriplefife Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if some of these treasure cards would be more balanced if they not only had their treasures that they create enter the battlefield tapped, but if they said something along the lines of "all of your treasures enter the battlefield tapped?"
@andrewpeli9019
@andrewpeli9019 Жыл бұрын
There are thousands of cards that I wish I could remove one or two generic mana from the casting cost to make playable.
@loganhodskins4786
@loganhodskins4786 Жыл бұрын
Outro beep was great!
@TheBouShea
@TheBouShea Жыл бұрын
Brion Stoutarm, I want him to have Blue in him, all the thieving Blue effects for fling on a stick
@dantemalick2872
@dantemalick2872 Жыл бұрын
For me for hulbreacher it should have been when your opponents draw one or more instead they draw one and you create a treasure Same for smothering tithe When an opponent draws one or more create it removes wheel synergies
@hellNo116
@hellNo116 Жыл бұрын
if dockside was izzet or rakdos? especially rakdos would make so much sense.
@vincent-antoinesoucy1872
@vincent-antoinesoucy1872 Жыл бұрын
The "free if commander" spells should just have cost 1 mana instead of 0 if you have your commander.
@maxbodifee3263
@maxbodifee3263 Жыл бұрын
Or 2 colorless less
@jasonholmes5714
@jasonholmes5714 Жыл бұрын
Y’all: you can’t interact with these permanents that trigger when they leave the battlefield Oko: *laughs in banned in constructed formats*
@lukedalrymple7677
@lukedalrymple7677 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone mentioned tear asunder 🙌
@CaptainRoss
@CaptainRoss Жыл бұрын
Meeting of the Five definitely could use a little or a lot of tinkering.
@mibbzx1493
@mibbzx1493 Жыл бұрын
The artwork is 10/10 tho 🤣
@vantharion
@vantharion Жыл бұрын
Dockside: treasures enter tapped feels the right way to fix it. I think any time more than 1 treasure should make tapped treasures. Smothering Tithe shouldnt trigger on your effects that make them draw. Make it not combo with wheels imo. Agree on the single white pip. Cyclonic should've been like 4-5 blue pips on the overload. Cause at 7 mana, 3 pips isn't hard. Deadbridge is the 'its expensive, so don't stop it'. Cheap things should be stoppable. Expensive things shouldnt.
@CBSmrclean18
@CBSmrclean18 Жыл бұрын
Spoils of Evil could be good in my Toshiro deck... killing stuff left and right could bring a lot of mana with it
@runcmd1419
@runcmd1419 Жыл бұрын
Treasures should come into play tapped in general.
@cowboyjordan01
@cowboyjordan01 Жыл бұрын
Deadbridge chant in Kathril goes off hard
@20x20
@20x20 Жыл бұрын
Maro said it himself: players are great at pointing out problems but terrible at pointing out solutions.
@mathimus55
@mathimus55 Жыл бұрын
Which is why we spent time brainstorming possible solutions...
@Dragon_Fyre
@Dragon_Fyre Жыл бұрын
I would fix dockside extortionist by having it exile itself at end of its ability.
@alexandergartner8877
@alexandergartner8877 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day I really liked the design and artwork of the Minion of Tevesh Szat. Had it just not been so ridiculously overcosted. SEVEN mana - this poor guy has never seen any play anywhere. He doesn't even fly. I never could find a deck for him, not even in demon tribal.
@Sp0rkXNinja
@Sp0rkXNinja Жыл бұрын
I would change Dockside to be 3 or 4 mana. Also one card that bothered me was Alms Collector. The first time I read it sounded great and would be good white card draw until I actually played it. Wish it just drew you and extra card for each extra card instead 2.
@HinduGangsta
@HinduGangsta Жыл бұрын
This podcast is like ESPN sports center for mtg
@Squee_666_9
@Squee_666_9 Жыл бұрын
Except actually entertaining
@johnathanrhoades7751
@johnathanrhoades7751 Жыл бұрын
I finally stripped out deadbridge chant. I like that card 😟
@brentclark8453
@brentclark8453 Жыл бұрын
Myriad can be better by when you become 1v1 then you create a copy for attacking def player. But only when you become 1v1 it triggers this way
@PawzBrownMTG
@PawzBrownMTG Жыл бұрын
You guys are great keep up these wonderful episodes ❤️
@54SCV8
@54SCV8 Ай бұрын
What if it was Dockside Extortion a 3cmc sorcery?
@fernandotanigushi8310
@fernandotanigushi8310 Жыл бұрын
Dockside needed only the word "tapped"
@Fogshaper
@Fogshaper Жыл бұрын
Sonf of the Worldsoul could be WW and I wouldn't be too worried about it. Jesus what is that card?
@JervisGermane
@JervisGermane 6 ай бұрын
This certainly wasn't what I was expecting. I do frequently redesign cards in my head, but it's more about improving cards than about nerfing overpowered ones. And honestly the names are one of my biggest concerns. People speak of cards like "Dockside Extortionist" with passion, positive or negative, while cards like "Fireball" don't spark any excitement at all anymore. Often I wish they could have more than one card with the same name outside silver-bordered sets. Then they could keep redesigning Fireball once a decade, for example, and keep it as iconic as cards with stupid names like Snapcaster Mage.
@nik700
@nik700 Жыл бұрын
Sun Titan, make it legendary. Boom Song of the Wordsoul is the card that I have taken out of decks the most. It's sooo cool but sooo expensive The worst part of Blade of Selves is that is so cheap and colorless. What it should be a nice equipment for aggro decks is just another combo piece for huge ETBs
@drewturney3949
@drewturney3949 Жыл бұрын
Dockside fix add text: Whenever Dockside Extortionist would leave the battlefield exile it instead.
@tikazombie37
@tikazombie37 9 ай бұрын
not sure if brothers' war was out when this podcast was recorded but i'll eternally be mad I can't level citiyscapes with cityscape leveler. it should at the very least be able to destroy nonbasic lands
@borislibaque1558
@borislibaque1558 Жыл бұрын
torrasque should be a 20/20, enter with haste and indestructible until end of turn if cast, fight each creature on etb and trample extra damage through to players. And impervious Greatwurm....why can that be blocked by 1/1s....it should have trample....it even looks trample
@CrabBaskets
@CrabBaskets Жыл бұрын
I mostly would want to color shift cards to what makes better sense. An example that Joey would resonate with - make Ezuri Claw of Progress white!
@dantebeleren
@dantebeleren Жыл бұрын
No
@CKarasu13
@CKarasu13 Жыл бұрын
Wish Ink-Treader Nephilim was legendary. Yes, the deck would be a war crime. That's the idea.
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