Carl Benjamin - The Rising Tide of Polarisation & Censorship | Real Talk with Zuby

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[@simonsmith5249]

Love your style and guest as constructive criticism I'd like to suggest halving the number of adds you are putting on this video there is no flow and they seen haphazardly places for example you put an add five words into carl introducing himself. Perhaps consider putting them in between topics instead.

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@@simonsmith5249 Can the content creator change where You Tube adds are placed?

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@@lminterests5590 pretty sure it's a thing.

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@@simonsmith5249 I noticed lots of adds in the stream. More than seems reasonable.

[@adriennemarie5388]

“If these people are racists, they aren’t doing it very well.” Best quote from the interview.

[@johnbrown4568]

Zuby + Carl = Free Speech Champions 👌✌👍

[@lizbec1085]

Thank you, from America! You both have brought so much sense into the world of politics and culture, here in the states and I’m sure beyond. ✌🏽🙏🏽

[@tatermonkey74]

Love you two fighting for all of us... so sad that “non” Americans get it better than most of us here! Keep up the great work!

[@dogico]

"Fighting for us" lmao they don't do shit except complain about leftists and display victim complex.

[@ddlmytwat]

Speak for yourself. So sad that some Americans think most Americans don’t get it. We The People are smart - don’t let MSM convince you otherwise.

[@paulgaya5099]

@@dogico exactly. The right falls for any grift. In the right wing bubble 'cancel culture' is the biggest issue in the world. Not poverty, hunger, the pandemic, unemployment etc. The real issue is getting deplatformed 😂 😂 😂 😂. What a bunch of morons....

[@candycanessongs]

@@paulgaya5099 Don't look up Gulag or Hypocrisy. The Left are perfect .......

[@francinel8154]

@@dogico The thing is, the left are always complaining, with reasons in many cases but they don't have in the way always blaming a particular group by picking, harrassing, threatning, yes cancelling and despising them even more if they get fed up about it.

[@megaloschemos9113]

Another good interview Zuby 💯

[@ZubyMusic]

Thank you!

[@wmurray689]

I really like Carl and the gang. Sane, amusing and courageous.

[@oldmanwithers4565]

Conservative was always about freedom and liberty, the conservation of the principles and institutions that both gave and protected them. Its about the value of things that worked and individual rights when linked with responsibility. The difference is where before the arguments where mostly about economics, the left claiming to help people by giving them free stuff, Conservatives more focus on try to give opportunity and incentive to help themselves. Its now become about culture and values and the economics mask has slipped its almost gone back to the pre ww2 position where left is about collectivism state control and group vs group and now feelings the right remains focused on the individual and facts. The Conservative believes you have a right to speak and disagree the collectivist believes you must conform and obey because they know best and are morally superior.The last century had shown us where that usually leads and its not good. The biggest issue now is the consensus that the optimal place to be was near the centre with a balance of both has been broken. How did it happen I can only give my opinions. When Marxism failed they had to switch to something else to stay relevant, second while the Conservatives focused on economics the collectivist left went from culture unchallenged and each time they won a victory they went for the next and the next moving further left unchallenged until here we are. As for being married with kids it's true it really does change your perspective. When your young single and free revolution protests and attacking the systems fun and exciting it gives you a purpose. When you grow up and have kids, peace, stability, safety and predictability become much more valuable. Perhaps the reason the west is so screwed is we have generations of over grown babies that don't grow up until they're much older.

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KZbin punishes your watchers with 19 ads in your 1 hour video.

[@candycanessongs]

I got 6 in under 12 minutes..... not sure if I can make it through the whole show.

[@Asptuber]

It's whacked for me too, 4 ads within first ten minutes. Sometimes it helps to wait a few days, but this time this problem seems to be sticky, seeing that your comment is from six days ago, and Johnny D is from four days ago. Wish I knew a reliable way of fixing this. Some people say that you can make the video watchable by fast forwarding and then starting over, but I have never had success with that.

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Came to the comments to also moan, glad I'm not alone

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Just click on the red dot and drag it to the end of the video so it ends. Then press replay. You wont get any adds.

[@HuxMan909]

You know the channel's owner chooses how many ads are on each video and how often to show them? Zuby is the one making it unwatchable for money.

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We love you Zuby! We need you

[@x97s]

@Endless War lol

[@MarkJoseph81]

One of the best interviews I've seen in a while. Thank you.

[@LouisGedo]

Good discussion

[@LIBERTYMarkAaron]

It was so nice to almost get through a complete thought between each ad!

[@DafuqROB]

Zuby deserves way more subs! Would you consider having Gothix on? Love that logical lady.

[@icarusjumped2719]

Part two of this needs to be done asap

[@bethelight247]

This was such a good podcast! It's up there with your one that you did with Douglas Murray 💪

[@PiousMoltar]

"Isle of Wight to Glasgow, Swansea to Norwich" Guy knows his UK geography. Respect.

[@roxanelafrance1981]

The color of people skin is a reality, not an identity

[@roxanelafrance1981]

@Hugh Jones I identify as covid immune and my pronoun is healthy

[@h____hchump8941]

What about if your whole identity is based around your support of a football team and you paint your face in their colours? Which is the case for the whole of the city of Newcastle.

[@roxanelafrance1981]

@@h____hchump8941 lol! Well, that's the color of you makeup, not your skin ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@h____hchump8941]

@@roxanelafrance1981 so what you're saying is it would need to be a permanent tattoo to apply. Interesting.

[@roxanelafrance1981]

@@h____hchump8941 it would still be a reality..in which you are forever jobless and single

[@MarkJoseph81]

Yes, more Sargon of Akkad! Wonderful man!

[@slickbomb]

Great interview! Those 1000 adverts were fun....

[@connorcunningham6446]

Thank you, for speaking up against the tyranny we find ourselves fighting against. You’re an inspiration

[@freaknr1]

Great video. You two might have been a bit too on the same page for there to be a radical discussion, but just hearing your opinions was very interesting. The point about getting your news from different sources really resonated with me, as that is something I try to do. Seeing things from different points of view is incredibly important imo, even if it is a view that you fundamentally disagree with.

[@robertkendall1037]

Brilliant discussion gentlemen. Very familiar with Carl but Zuby you are new to me. Very impressed. Keep up the good work both of you.

[@stringseraphim1]

Great conversation guys! Really enjoyed it.

[@barrychuckle5565]

Brilliant. Carl is just amazing as always. Hats off to the interviewer. Great questions and very level headed. Without meaning to sound offensive, it's nice to hear the voice of a normal black person on the screen instead of some absolute fringe maniac that's been dragged in to push an agenda. Cheers to you both - and another Sargon Dankula one would be awesome (can't wait to hear the one that was mentioned)!

[@ezhdeha231]

I discovered you in that interview you did with Carl, and now I listen to your podcasts more than I do Carl's current stuff.

[@kdemetter]

47:07 Well the problem isn't lack of information, but it is lack of good information ( as in accurate information about what's really going on) . That was difficult in the past because you couldn't easily get information. It's even harder now because there's a lot of useless information dispersed in with the useful information

[@stuboy261]

I had to stop and write down 4 or 5 ideas watching this provoked so, hell yeah, great interview.

[@flain283]

On the Starwars fans vs StarTrek fans - in 2021 they no longer hate each other. They've both been wronged, and now feel sorry for each other in a genuine way due to what's been done to the franchises. These days they like to sit around the camp fire and reminisce about how good things used to be.

[@adampindell]

Lord of the rings fans looking nervous on the sidelines 😬

[@robinrepete76]

Zuby, you have an amazing platform. Please keep it up. I love your content and I share it as much as possible with my fellow Americans. Thanks you for great interviews!

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Zuby happy to subscribe to your channel, i found your interview style very relaxed and thoughtful with Karl, who incidentally was the reason that I found you on my home screen as i've viewed his content for years, and i hope this will be just as much as a interesting journey with you.

[@Skimatik_DnB]

“That’s not how it works” ...... this man says that too much 🙌 non of us know the answers we need as all that has come before didn’t and doesn’t work . Politics needs a re structure and hearing this man speak highlights this to me ✌️💚☯️

[@TheGodsrighthandman]

If all that came before didn't and doesn't work then you wouldn't have the freedom to even comment like that, let alone own the tools to do it with. I suspect the political restructuring you advocate would lead to many, many dead, especially if they disagreed with you!

[@Skimatik_DnB]

@@TheGodsrighthandman 😂😂😂😂😂 I have no god complex 🙌 I have no desire to make you conform to my world view 🙌 as for disagreeing, I’m cool with that and I’m also not the one throwing around judgment and assumptions ...... but I guess we should be lucky we don’t live in a hierarchal structure that teaches us to judge and attack Each other for the smallest disagreement 👀🤦‍♂️ recognise where your mind is out of control and control it 🎯 maybe then you might get close to making a statement about me with a shred of truth to it ✌️💚☯️

[@LearnEnglishwithJames.]

Love you Zuby but I have to say the ads were REALLY intrusive. It totally ruined the dialogue for me, I found myself constantly skipping ads.

[@omorto83]

So many adds 😑

[@sarahjones79]

Brilliant talk !! Thank you gentlemen!!

[@vandalcreed]

I would've watched this but I saw all the yellow marks on the time line, so I'm going to definitely pass.

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[@adampindell]

You can't fool us, we know you watched it🧐

[@vandalcreed]

@@adampindell lol I didn't. I don't watch any video that has that many ad breaks hell commercial TV isn't even that sadistic.

[@vandalcreed]

@@advocate1563 I'll look into it. Thanks.

[@benaiahwright937]

Great conversation

[@georgef1936]

Zuby mate, you hit the nail on the head re the inversion of political ideas that the left and right 'own'. In particular for me the pandemic seemed to exacerbate this, or at least I noticed this interesting thing happening, although I couldn't actually verbalise it. I've always been strongly embedded to freedom, freedom of speech and self expression and individual autonomy - effectively liberalism. Yet the modern left is antithetical to those ideals. Hugely ironic and deeply concerning. The modern left are the 'wolf in the sheep's clothing.'

[@Oak_Knight]

This was a fantastic interview and really clarified the differences between liberal, socialist and conservative ideologies. Thanks both.

[@johnkrstyen7351]

Carl has the most soothing voice.

[@King-balloon]

3 adverts in 15 minutes

[@eamonnosullivan5412]

Keep it up Zuby. You are doing great !

[@marclacey2263]

I like white people. What do I believe? I like black people. What do I believe? I dislike white people and also black people. What do I believe? Do I like Asians and/or Orientals? Can't tell, can you? I can't either until I meet an individual. Like some, don't like others. Same with men, women, religious people, gay people, all people. Each person. Don't let anyone collectivise your relationships. Especially your relationship to yourself.

[@Tang0Fox1]

I have a radial thought. Treat people as equal but there are fundamental differences between men and women. There is no such thing as "my truth or your truth" there is THE TRUTH.

[@bonniebluebell5940]

Great commentary. The Truth shall set us free. Long time listener of CB aka Sargon of Akaad. God Bless You Both from Canada

[@Anne_Onymous]

I'm just so sick of everything revolving around identity labels or skin color and want a damn political party to vote for lol

[@Xplora213]

Start one. Harder than it seems. Sadly, the major parties behave as if hard left policy is moderate.

[@wiggawithattitude]

It's good that you brought up Rush Limbaugh. I always remember the family guy with him in. You had seth mcfarlane, who I'm fairly sure doesnt agree with RL on a lot of things, having him on his show and they did it really well, in a way that shows more how people should engage politically.

[@9VENDETTA]

Zuby and Carl make a great pair. Always great conversations between these two. Carl should definitely look in to getting Zuby on The Lotus Eaters, sometime! 🤟🏻

[@orioncampos]

This was great!

[@jumperjunior804]

Love this interview, but please don’t put soooo many adverts on them, it kills me when I can’t hit the skip button when on the move!

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To help mitigate ads, move the cursor to the very end of the video, chances are you will only have one ad (or none!). Then click the replay button and all ads within the video will have disappeared.

[@zl3457]

Great stuff, tone it down on the adds, you don't need 17 of them

[@baxtronicxavier]

I have to say, this the best conversation - I watch the podcast of the lotus eaters and have liked Sargon for a few years. This just sums up the insanity that is going on. Good one Zuby

[@rsreviews9108]

Excellent stuff. Carl is a very smart man who clueless people have tried to tarnish with the same old ‘sexist, racist, homophobic’ tripe that in reality holds no basis for anything that he even speaks about.

[@warney91warne44]

Zuby and Sargon, get Freddie Flintoff and this is my favourite group of pomes.

[@huntsalone2013]

Sargonite here, good video Zuby

[@TomPlantagenet]

Wait-Carl says he’s not a conservative and that conservatives look to the ideal past. Then he goes on about how great Aristotle and philosophy was. Anyway, I think he’s an amazing guest and glad you had him on!

[@Avoloch]

conssessions is how you got Drag queen story hour

[@adampindell]

Compromising on where you draw the line is called defeat.

[@PiousMoltar]

Zuby shouting out Norwich Hellz yeah

[@KurNorock]

Conservatism is not "going back to the 1800s" It is simply conserving the policies, morals, and ethics that work and lead to the success of the individual in society. That's all.

[@sarahjones79]

The origin of rights - brilliant clarification - privileges not rights

[@MrXMysteriousX]

On what divides us broadly as a dichotomy. I think you can sum it up as "People who wish the world was a certain way" VS "People who know how the world IS" in the idealistic sense. Take the current UK issue with Sarah, who was murdered by a cop and how its been twisted and warped into a feminist "man vs woman issue" Many are chiming up with "We shouldn't have to walk in fear" If you assess the statement for a moment it's couched in idealism, the idea they have a divine right not to be attacked. They shouldn't be attacked and i do wish it didn't happen- but it is just that,a wish- it will happen, just as men experience the vast majority of violent crime from other men. Human societal values are locked in a tug of war between the way the world is and the way some wish the world to be and right now i'd say its leaning in the favor "the way they wish it was", hence all the "People who menstruate" and so on....

[@baxtronicxavier]

So damn good

[@TrevRockOne]

The amount of ads is nuts.

[@sevengauge89]

Carl is the Fing man!

[@DeltaShadowbanned]

Great points

[@MarkJoseph81]

Great show! And I love The Lotus Eaters' shows.

[@baxtronicxavier]

I love the mature Sargon

[@cornbreadisbetterthanpizza6866]

I don't know about the UK but in America we know what conservatism is perfectly. Conserve our culture against the Left.

[@shughy1]

And just a few days later Carl's channel gets censored and is not allowed to live stream, big tech has gotten out of control, he is a very level headed balanced thinker and to cancel him is abhorrent beyond belief, he only seeks the truth in politics which is a good thing

[@andym9571]

Have you seen the BBC Victoria D interview?

[@shughy1]

@@andym9571 yes it was such a hit piece, not real journalism, she was awful and came out looking worse

[@BlackLight1105]

Holy midrolls Batman

[@scratch57]

the progressive utopia is where your well-being is ensured by everyone else's behavior. The conservative/christian utopia is where your well-being is ensured by your own behavior.

[@lucyluthraine8307]

I don't like the it when people say "left" and "right" are meaningless now. They've never meant more

[@marcrusso3142]

I think it's mostly impossible for "news" to be non-partisan, except when it comes to covering broad, large-scale events. Think of it this way: everyday thousands of potential news stories happen. As a news network, which of them do you choose to cover? Obviously, you want to choose the ones that increase the number of viewers, so already you're biased towards sensational stories. But even among the sensational ones, which do you cover? You probably choose stories that support your political beliefs, or the political beliefs of your viewers. So if you're progressive, and you've got a story about a white police officer shooting an unarmed black man, you definitely want to cover that story. If you're conservative, and you've got a story about an illegal immigrant going on a crime-spree, you definitely want to cover that story. So ultimately, the very fact that you have to choose which stories to cover (or which stories make the front-page headlines) makes it almost impossible to avoid being partisan. Selecting the news is itself a partisan filter. I think this is the main reason why liberals and conservatives don't even live in the same reality any more - the news they watch is presenting them with an entirely different set of events. There's obviously some overlap when it comes to large scale events like 9/11 or whatever, but on a day to day basis they are both seeing different events reported, events which are curated to fit in with an pre-existing narrative.

[@adamdunn9219]

Good talk fellas, I'm gonna repost this on FB and reap many rees I am sure. Hope your getting those youtube dollars, the adds are every 5mins :/

[@tzuyd]

"Conservative and liberal labels have switched around" No, conservatives want to conserve the classical/social liberalism that became prevalent throughout all western nations over the past three decades, whereas liberals - as you aptly rename progressives - want to progress; change for the sake of change, even when the change is demonstrably evil (such as regressing back from enlightenment liberalism). As it so happens, change four generations ago was change for good. Today, conservatism means fighting to keep that good.

[@thisjusttrevor]

I didn't know the Banger tweets guy had a podcast.

[@jaydoubledee]

I sure hope Zuby gets a fair share of the revenue created from all the ads so "liberally" sprinkled throughout his content.

[@hariseldon3786]

Went to Carl's website and subscribed bc KZbin chucked him - f*ck them...

[@cirescythe]

awesome

[@lemonborn]

I LOVE IT ZUBY, TWO BRITS TALKING ABOUT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD!! middle-north-america!! WE ARE IN THE APEX OF THE MODERN WORLD'S WAR WITH POSTMODERNISM!! hint: if postmodernism comes after modernism, posthumanism comes after postmodernism.. figure out what #posthumanism is.. NA SOO GOO FOR HUMANS at least if you WANT TO "KEEP" YOUR BODY!!

[@lerch66]

Good lord the ads..

[@sarahjones79]

When someone had to work for it it is NOT a right!! Great!!!!

[@FallopiumFilms]

misspelled "polarization"

[@franktaylor7978]

Critical theory is easy. Building and maintaining a complex society is unimaginably difficult.

[@starsine9062]

THE LEFT-RIGHT DICHOTOMY One of the fertile sources of confusion in discussions of ideological issues is the dichotomy between the political left and the political right. Perhaps the most fundamental difference between the left and the right is that only the former has even a rough definition. What is called “the right” are simply the various and disparate opponents of the left. These opponents of the left may share no particular principle, much less a common agenda, and they can range from free-market libertarians to advocates of monarchy, theocracy, military dictatorship or innumerable other principles, systems and agendas. To people who take words literally, to speak of “the left” is to assume implicitly that there is some other coherent group which constitutes “the right.” Perhaps it would be less confusing if what we call “the left” would be designated by some other term, perhaps just as X. But the designation as being on the left has at least some historical basis in the views of those deputies who sat on the left side of the president’s chair in France’s Estates General in the eighteenth century. A rough summary of the vision of the political left today is that of collective decision-making through government, directed toward-or at least rationalized by-the goal of reducing economic and social inequalities. There may be moderate or extreme versions of the left vision or agenda but, among those designated as “the right,” the difference between free market libertarians and military juntas is not simply one of degree in pursuing a common vision, because there is no common vision among these and other disparate groups opposed to the left-which is to say, there is no such definable thing as “the right,” though there are various segments of that omnibus category, such as free market advocates, who can be defined. The heterogeneity of what is called “the right” is not the only problem with the left-right dichotomy. The usual image of the political spectrum among the intelligentsia extends from the Communists on the extreme left to less extreme left-wing radicals, more moderate liberals, centrists, conservatives, hard right-wingers, and ultimately Fascists. Like so much that is believed by the intelligentsia, it is a conclusion without an argument, unless endless repetition can be regarded as an argument. When we turn from such images to specifics, there is remarkably little difference between Communists and Fascists, except for rhetoric, and there is far more in common between Fascists and even the moderate left than between either of them and traditional conservatives in the American sense. A closer look makes this clear. Communism is socialism with an international focus and totalitarian methods. Benito Mussolini, the founder of Fascism, defined Fascism as national socialism in a state that was totalitarian, a term that he also coined. The same idea was echoed in the name of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party in Germany, Hitler’s party, now almost always abbreviated as Nazis, thereby burying its socialist component. Viewed in retrospect, the most prominent feature of the Nazis-racism in general and anti-Jewish racism in particular-was not inherent in the Fascist vision, but was an obsession of Hitler’s party, not shared by the Fascist government of Mussolini in Italy or that of Franco in Spain. At one time, Jews were in fact over-represented among Fascist leaders in Italy. Only after Mussolini became Hitler’s junior partner in the Axis alliance of the late 1930s were Jews purged from Italy’s Fascist party. And only after Mussolini’s Fascist government in Rome was overthrown in 1943, and was replaced by a rump puppet government that the Nazis set up in northern Italy, were Jews in that part of Italy rounded up and sent off to concentration camps. In short, official and explicit government racist ideology and practice distinguished the Nazis from other Fascist movements. What distinguished Fascist movements in general from Communist movements was that Communists were officially committed to government ownership of the means of production, while Fascists permitted private ownership of the means of production, so long as government directed the private owners’ decisions and limited what profit rates they could receive. Both were totalitarian dictatorships but Communists were officially internationalist while Fascists were officially nationalist. However, Stalin’s proclaimed policy of “socialism in one country” was not very different from the Fascists’ proclaimed policy of national socialism. Intellectuals and Society by Dr Thomas Sowell

[@jojjeja9371]

Love Zuby:-)

[@blackfang3000]

Is Britain in war? Maybe.

[@billsutherby]

If I meet someone on the street and we exchange $1 bills and then separate, then we both still leave with only $1. But if I meet someone and we exchange ideas and then separate, then we both leave with two ideas.

[@stijnvdv2]

34:20 interesting he brings up minimum wage. I've heard that in this election (here in the Netherlands) as well. While it's goal is always noble, it's result is always the same, you end up destroying the jobs of those you're trying to help coz well, you get too expensive for an employer to be able to function, so like clockwork whenever you see policy implementation of minimum wage rise you always see employers shedding employees and automatisation to compensate for the rising costs.

[@hectornonayurbusiness2631]

I still think of him as Sargon

[@BUJU2007]

There seems to be some podcast in your ad 🤔

[@adampindell]

17 ads!?!? Are you fucking kidding me! This shit was almost unwatchable 😩... ... almost 😁

[@captainmaim]

OK dude!

[@affone1073]

MILK SARGON

[@lorizoli]

Who would you recommend to listen to from the left-side of the spectrum? I find it really hard to listen to emotional manipulation and I'm prejudiced in the sense that I expect almost nothing but that from the left.

[@MrLph427]

Love the show but, Wow, .......the adverts........!!!

[@vde1846]

Nice

[@joshuasterling2144]

That is what scared me about Jordan Peterson, recognizing his impact without making him more than he his. If you value the intellectual capacity of anybody you need to keep that balance in the end. Yes they may be brilliant but in the end they are human people.

[@iankclark]

Unbiased news sounds great but not possible in a postmodern world.

[@scurvydog20]

Oh I hate that story. galileo was not persecuted for saying the sun was the center of the solar system. He was reprimanded for teaching his theory as fact when his colleagues at the time were still debating his data. For example he was not able to explain why if the earth was moving we didn't see the stars moving relative to one another (think trees as you drive). He was told to stop teaching it as fact said he would then continued and added insults to the pope at the time. This is the equivalent to someone teaching string theory saying all other completing theories are wrong and then after being told to make it clear it was a theory insulting the dean. Then being put on leave with pay.

[@sylviaking6796]

2 velvet voices.

[@jessicaeldridge4333]

This would have been a great discussion had I not been bombarded with adverts every two minutes interrupting the flow and generally causing great annoyance. Please bear this in mind for future Zuby, such a shame as it is so off putting and makes it an unpleasant listening experience - Ads are fine but not to that extent!

[@ZubyMusic]

I don't think that people realise that KZbin places the ads, not the creators... If you don't like ads, then you can get KZbin Premium or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etc. - fanlink.to/zubypodcast