Carl Froch v George Groves | Extended Highlights | 23rd November 2013

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A chance to rewatch the controversial first meeting between Carl Froch and George Groves. The pair met at the Manchester Phoenix Arena in November 2013. The ending of the fight was mired in controversy and resulted in a rematch at Wembley Stadium one year later.
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[@billyelliot4141]

A tictoc video of these two lads shaking hands brought me here. Great fight.

[@Declangalea]

Pull abart

[@billyelliot4141]

@John Michaels great scrap though. No regrets

[@billyelliot4141]

@@Declangalea lol

[@foggydew9428]

@@Declangalea Pull abaaaa

[@lukeroberts430]

Same ahahah we can all pull ahahahah

[@fitprotunes]

Looking back after 4 years, still a terrible decision

[@jackgallagher1438]

Jimmy Kay it still looks terrible after 5 years

[@angelameynell7970]

@@jackgallagher1438 Looks a better stoppage every time I watch it, The ref probably could have left it another 10 seconds hut George was done.

[@damianlord7954]

Yep still can't believe it was stopped while both fighters were still swinging.

[@steveetienne]

@@jackgallagher1438 make that 7

[@Mmaspac]

@Tyrone Williams i think he was hurt mate u watch the fight

[@scottishviking4240]

Will never forget George proving me so wrong and then learning that in boxing, referees and judges come way before actual skill

[@Lukass078]

Imagine groves with froch’s chin

[@jameswilson1984]

Imagine my Auntie with bollocks.

[@chrisbuss3208]

@@jameswilson1984 hahahaha 😂 that got me, so unexpected it's great

[@davidvarey5072]

Anyone with froch chin

[@shahee6579]

@@jameswilson1984 hmmm I'm imagining and I'm liking

[@brianmorecombe2726]

Froch had a tremendous chin,equal to Hagler imo.

[@ulfricstormcloak4230]

Groves got robbed in this fight and it impacted him for his whole career since that point.

[@SiLoMixMaster]

Ulfric Stormcloak Since last May he's been a great run though after winning the world title, especially with this tournament and derailing the Eubank hype train

[@kimiicemanmz]

Ulfric Stormcloak nonsense! He got his rematch and Froch put him to sleep, the same would have happened in this fight if the ref wouldn't have stopped it. Groves did good, but he was gone in the 9th round. So if Froch knocked him out in the first fight it wouldn't have impacted his career!? Maybe he would have ended crippled. Btw Groves has quite a good career but he wasn't good enough to beat a champ of Frochs calibre.

[@Dangerous2099]

It was a poor stoppage so we'll never know if he could have beaten Froch in this fight. Groves didn't even go down and get a count. Howard Foster betted on a 9th round TKO for Froch. The fix was in.

[@lucasm3879]

Ulfric Stormcloak He wasn't robbed, he was stopped. A few seconds too early, yes, but he was still gone and wouldn't have recovered. Froch had weathered the storm and was getting stringer, Groves had emptied his tank and was weakening. Look at what Froch did to Jermain Taylor in the final seconds of the twelfth. There were still several rounds left - that's what Groves would have been up against for the rest of the fight.

[@lucasm3879]

@@Dangerous2099 You're deluded. Groves was stopped a few seconds early, he wasn't going to miraculously recover though, he was done, he always had poor stamina and a dodgy chin. Froch would keep going until he got him. Look at how he beat Jermain Taylor in the last seconds of the twelfth.

[@SuperMillwall]

I will never forget how shocked I was when Groves dropped Froch in that first round, he literally called the shot in the press conferences and even though everyone laughed at him he proved everyone wrong. Great fights, Groves definitely got robbed in this one though.

[@wordsfrom1985]

he didn't prove anyone wrong?? he claimed he was going to knock out Froch...he didn't !!! yeah it was a poor stoppage but he was on wobbly legs,one punch after that would of put him down...he gassed simple as that,he out boxed and out maneuvered froch until that round.... IMO

[@tahjrose627]

@@wordsfrom1985 shutup lol

[@danlofc5134]

@@wordsfrom1985 get out of froch arse you mong he proved everyone wrong as people were saying froch will ko him easy. Groves beat him up for 6 rounds

[@simmonslee1]

@@wordsfrom1985 he was out on the stool too many punches at the break The ref cheated the whole fight

[@tonylawlor8833]

Does not matter who did what and when. When the bell went or fight was stopped, Frotch won, that's what matters. Two great fighters.

[@anthonyreckitt9473]

One of the worst stoppages Iv ever seen. Grove got punished for fighting through the onslaught from Froch. The replay doesn’t show clean shots landing even, this wasn’t Tyson style accuracy and power, far from it. Such a shame for Groves who did a magnificent job from start to finish AND kePt his cool with the bad decision at the end. True champion.

[@Eat-MyGoal]

If that's one of the worst stoppages you've ever seen you're clearly a casual

[@lornawoodings2605]

Groves was getting folded up there within 10secs or so, was starting to feel the pace and carl was starting to lay it on thick!! A few seconds premature but the result was written on the wall

[@jimclawley9117]

@@Eat-MyGoal yep it robbed Froch of knocking him out completely. It was too early I agree but he was done

[@scotthands4396]

I think the ref saw the left and right hand, groves sagging slightly, his head rolling and had to jump in before froch basically had a free shot to KO him, I have watched it back recently and it's not as bad a stoppage as I thought first time round, I think it was slightly early but it would of been the outcome in the end anyway 👍

[@brianmorecombe2726]

Howard Foster still does refereeing and he will always be remembered for this bullshit stoppage.Why he never took a point off Froch for his persistent fouling is another reason why he`s a rubbish referee.

[@LifeOfRy]

Groves’ movement and counter at 15:49 was an absolute beauty

[@joebriggs8106]

‘Oh and he’s been nailed, right hand! George groves! Timing perfect!’ I’ll never forget watching this live

[@GTLB302]

Any idea who the commentator is?

[@GW_01]

​​@@GTLB302 Nick Halling.

[@305Solo]

The build up, the fight…. One of my favourite fights I’ve seen in 15 years of seriously watching boxing (I discount the 10 or so years when I was a child). I’ve never seen an underdog be so confident in his ability and back up his talk emphatically. Yes, the records show he lost the fight, but we all know he gave Froch absolute hell that night and the stoppage was highly controversial

[@SM-tu5fz]

This was wat got me into boxing

[@ryanoflaherty9625]

He did give him he'll It's a fight! But he got stopped.. End of

[@dmd7472]

Nicely written… agreed

[@jamesheath7601]

One of the best Super Middleweight fights of all time

[@bobshenix]

No way... had the potential if the referee knew how to do his job correctly.

[@Will-nc7lp]

Far from it…

[@keithcampbell6806]

@Tyrone Williams Agreed.

[@keithcampbell6806]

@@bobshenix Agreed

[@martinharvey3990]

This fight just shows how class Groves was... and how tough Froch is... he was gone, but somehow fought back into it. Tough as teak.

[@jimdoherty5010]

Nearly 8 years ago,will always be a classic.

[@memorywarrior8752]

Massive respect to Groves for being so respectful during the announcements.

[@shaunwest7535]

Wow, watching this back what a disgrace Howard Foster was in this fight! Multiple hits after the break from Frotch and just before the stoppage he forearmed Groves for the third or fourth time in the fight. No points off and a dreadful stoppage. What a shame!

[@baberzaman6398]

Froch had a solid chin

[@markt8895]

To be fair froch as always said he could never be knocked out way before this

[@therealslimgamey1]

Yep that about it. He was big for his division weirdly big. Fit as well. I doubt he ever made the weight honestly.

[@thomasgreen2039]

Indeed

[@radioactivepotato2068]

@@therealslimgamey1 . 6'1" with a 76" reach. All tendon strength. Man was a wrecking ball.

[@davidwhyte219]

He was there at the time bet of Kessler not the hardest hitter so solid chin fought Taylor when he was showing up for cheque give me a break this fight shouldn't have got stopped

[@JayChambers83]

Credit to Groves. I was there that night. It lead to the greatest domestic dust up at Wembley. But regarding this fight, it is hard to ignore the fact that Froch walked through EVERY punch Groves landed and got up from an epic right hand early doors. And Groves did win pretty much every round until that stage no question. But the minute Froch started landing I’m sorry but Groves was in trouble. The ref came in early but I think Froch’s brute strength would have ended it moments later regardless. Groves got hit plush on the chin 3 times before the stoppage and he huddled over and faced the floor. If it wasn’t over then, it was going to be anyway. The face of a fighter after a fight says everything. And given Groves was by far the better fighter until the end, they both looked pretty beat up. Shows how heavy handed Froch actually was

[@bobshenix]

Yes I agree, Froch probably finishes the job in Round 9.... that can be true and the stoppage still considered a bloody awful one. Groves was clearly winning the fight on points, had yet to be seriously hurt or hit the canvas even once, was still capable of defending himself intelligently AND was still answering Froch with his own offense until the very moment Foster stopped the fight. I simply don't see ANY WAY WHATSOEVER that this stoppage can be justified given what the ref's job is supposed to be!!!

[@jasonsmith7737]

Couldn’t agree more .. groves not heavy handed enough , and poor chin . It’s not all about talent . Groves all over froch and couldn’t finish him off . froch knows how to be a champion . And the rematch taught groves a lesson . What a finish from Carl in that one ☝️

[@Fathervinyard]

@@jasonsmith7737 groves not heavy handed ? martin murray says groves hit harder than ggg lol

[@jasonsmith7737]

@@Fathervinyard . I stand by it. Had plenty of chances to be world champion and blew them . Plus he had no chin. No good dominating fights and losing

[@theonetypingthis7186]

I love froch, but hell no, groves was well on his way to winning this and he wasn't in trouble by fighting back and not even getting hit clean in the finishing sequence 😂 Horrible stoppage, always will be, froch was just the bigger star and they wanted to keep him marketable, so they looked for a very pathetic excuse to give him the match

[@adude9882]

I must have watched this 80 000 times and it never gets old.

[@marcusgibbs1292]

That first round from Groves was fucking incredible

[@jamiecunningham1565]

Big respect to Sky for putting this channel together.......Soooo many incredible nights on Sky Boxing 🥊

[@RoundOneBoxing]

Should never have been stopped . Groves will beat Jr on Saturday

[@KBMCFC-lw7mg]

Lol

[@kayjayess]

lol

[@jamesw5596]

Lol

[@CalebWelser13]

Lol

[@johnfraser1623]

Didn’t age well

[@whatman6199]

A true spectator fight The perfect blend of tactical boxing mixed with just enough violence to keep the casuals happy. This was a great match up from pre to post fight

[@firstroundboxing7649]

This is why I hate "aaaaaaardcores" imagine admitting you'd rather watch tactical boxing than violence.. Might as well just stick to watching the amateurs.

[@TheIkaraCult]

Froch's chin was fucking phenomenal to get up from that knockdown, Groves was an enormous puncher

[@tonylawlor8833]

Two great fighters, proper boxing men, walk the walk, talked the talk, both hard as nails.

[@liammac425]

Every time I watch this fight back that decision gets worse by Howard foster.

[@CasparWilson]

Foster never even took a point off Froch after so many times fighting after call to break. Really not a good night of refereeing. It wasn’t just a poor stoppage. It was all night.

[@ashhodson2063]

Hatton lost against Mayweather due to same kinda shitty refereeing

[@jamesanthony4946]

@@ashhodson2063 Hatton lost to Mayweather due to not being half as good a boxer.

[@crichtonhamilton7775]

What a display of boxing from groves , in and out of range , amazingly accurate left hand lead , great timing with the right hand and reading froch when he winds up to land that big right , chopping left Hook that groves has at close quarters ,,,,what a fight

[@phileeepaye1641]

Carl was more wobbly in round 1 than Geoge was in the 9th. Terrible stoppage.

[@muhismukhtaar]

Came from tiktok and this is already my favourite fight 🔥

[@ghostfacescrillaNG]

“Oh and he’s been nailed” such an iconic line in British boxing commentary 😂. Love it

[@joemac5598]

Robbed!

[@dalephillips2879]

Watching this back its crazy how that was stopped!!

[@immaculatedirtz8805]

Mad stoppage but it's quite surprising Groves let himself get in that position. Froch was wasting so many punches through lack of effort it was crazy!

[@Tonedefdom]

Such a bullshit stoppage. Its great now in 2018 that groves is a champion. I wasn't a fan originally but he won me, and I suspect many over with his skills

[@GuinessOriginal]

tondefdom not me. Always got found out when he stepped up to the top level. Just another loud mouth who thought he was better than he actually was

[@josephclelland6196]

@@GuinessOriginal groves is 1 of the best super middle wieghts rver

[@tbonetone1]

I'm a Froch fan but no way in this world was that a stoppage.

[@CK-dd7eq]

Yes it was

[@stevegrimes21]

When sky boxing and boxing was great

[@atifmir7409]

After watching it again that stoppage was REALLY BAD. Groves dominated this fight from start to the stoppage and should have been given the chance to fight to the end. The ref pulled out a very premature stoppage. Yes Groves was blowing but why not allow him to at least try and shake it off.

[@lachlanross1]

Ye like he wasnt even knocked down

[@darrenfry4689]

If Carl didn't have a solid chin he'd be just another fighter but his chin got him through some real bad times and he came back to win

[@bobshenix]

Chin and stamina too.

[@strixaluco9369]

I love the Scottish commentator "booiful right hend!"

[@Saw-Mc]

He’s not Scottish

[@brandonthesmudge7710]

@@Saw-Mc umm yes he is?

[@Saw-Mc]

Brandon the smudge he’s Iranian

[@brandonthesmudge7710]

@@Saw-Mc are you out of your mind?

[@brandonthesmudge7710]

@@Saw-Mc I seriously hope your joking now cause otherwise you're just an idiot

[@petrolstationchip342]

Isn't it nice not listening to froch on commentary

[@BoudicaJ]

Mike Baxter well Jim Watt so not really

[@Dan-qk3mt]

Yes, he’s a complete prick

[@ChadW98]

@@BoudicaJ he was know as jim twatt in my house

[@BoudicaJ]

@@ChadW98 lol very apt 🙂🙂

[@GW_01]

@@BoudicaJ Jim Watt was class what you on aboot

[@JC-ko1bp]

when i watched this live i thought it was an awful decision to stop it. watching it back since... its even worse

[@callumcoates-keddy9107]

even the ref got him in a headlock at the end.

[@victorwanyama67]

Jim watt wanted groves to win so bad 😂😂

[@gibrilkamara4827]

RICKITYCRICKET hilarious 😂

[@tkenyon1988]

@BestCanKeanRob2 He absolutely was you fucking melt!

[@tkenyon1988]

@BestCanKeanRob2 Mate you've had a nightmare here - Stick to WWE and Jim Ross

[@thomaspollock9941]

So did the whole country, froch is an arsehole

[@JCGaming13]

@@tkenyon1988 shout-out Jim Ross

[@RSR423]

Howard Foster, one of the most suspect refs in the business. Groves was a mile in front in this fight, and was definitely on track to win. Multiple shots after the bell by Froch but Foster looks the other way.

[@Colinthediver]

Still to this day the best fight ive ever seen

[@teem4800]

23th? You mean 23rd? It seems like this channel has been rushed by Sky.

[@JC-ko1bp]

yeah that ruined the whole video for me.... i was watching an epic fight but couldn't enjoy it as the title said 23th and not 23rd.

[@JC-ko1bp]

its been changed now so others dont have to feel our pain....

[@_matty]

These camera angles are next level feels like I’m actually there 😂

[@wmurray689]

7 years ago, my god.

[@David-mw3sb]

Fantastic fighters and fight. An all time classic. And now they are friends its a brilliant thing to now.

[@-AnGeLuS-]

No matter what Froch says and even now he doesn't want to admit it. Froch got a gift here from the really bad ref that didn't even take points away both sides when he should have. The ref had no control of the fight and he stopped it in favour of Froch the second he could somewhat validate that decision. Bad stoppage.

[@Ken-do4oy]

The same thing happened to my brother Ruben Groenewald when he defended his WBU title. The same corrupt ref. A lot of money was put on Froch to stop the fight in the 5th round. This corrupt ref was in on it and the BBBC. Read his book " Broken Dreams " Proof is there....... forged signatures by the BBBC.

[@HK_Musician]

That was a fantastic video

[@johndoyle1810]

Some fight,brilliant action packed battle

[@SiLoMixMaster]

Howard 'Matchroom' Foster with the early stoppage, not for first or last time either

[@spannerintheworks1190]

I remember after watching this fight showing my friends Max Maxwell vs Tom Doran, another foster early stoppage.

[@HaHa-bc4zr]

Froch is probably the best British fighter of all time. Hard as nails

[@samuelidredd8921]

Shame for Groves he didn't fight more like that in their second meeting.

[@kb8729]

Maybe my favourite fight ever - the stoppage was a joke though. Groves trainer Booth left him in the run up to this yet Groves didn't pull out he went in with and had a brawl. Hats off to both men - for the record this referee was definitely paid off.

[@michaelashton4454]

Miss the Jim Watt commentary this was a great fight had everything including controversy… Sky can only dream of putting bouts like this on now Boxxer took over from matchroom 😩

[@apollocreed85]

The more I watch it over the years I still can't believe it got stopped like that Carl froch got beat up every rd then the ref jumps in on George when Carl was desperate throwing his body on George like he had him badly hurt

[@TheIkaraCult]

This was one of the few times Jim Watt misread a fight, he was saying that Groves was relaxed when in fact he was burning up energy with his herky-jerky movements. Shane Mcguigan coached him to a different style later on

[@user-et7gq7qe9k]

Absolutely shocking stoppage.

[@werebringinithome5770]

The ref must’ve been like oh sh*t when he realised how badly he messed up aha

[@jamiehollsfm]

I wasn’t a fan of the stoppage but the commentators were so one sided, groves this and groves that, even when Froch was on top

[@Ryanj82]

What a Boxer Groves was! Sheer class!

[@dexdan]

One of the worst stoppages in British boxing history, add on to that it was for the World title, and it compounds the error.

[@robertnolan502]

Awful job by the ref, totally robbed Groves of his chance at the title, no problem with the 2nd fight Carl won fair n square

[@NOBODY-cn6fj]

Howard foster was obviously in matchrooms pocket !! Absolute disgrace!

[@brianticas7671]

I remember watching this fight with my colombian girlfriend at the time. Good fight. Carl froch one of the best euro fighters of this era.

[@finncustomtile]

That may be the worst stoppage I’ve ever seen.

[@jamesheath7601]

Amazing fight

[@thecolonel1982]

I genuinely think froch was worried about Groves

[@bl4ckkn1g8t5]

Foster was clearly on the Eddie Hearn payroll

[@markusmccourtus1]

Still is.

[@jackthomson5047]

Shut up 😂

[@remwall478]

Fuck Eddie as well

[@darragh2994]

Foster is Eddie Hearn a cousin

[@damianlord7954]

Still can't believe it was stopped with both fighters swinging. Froch may still have won but Foster was definitely up to something there, you could see him wanting to jump in.

[@chrisweber6090]

Froch has a iffy career he had one guy go down in the 5th similar to this and perhaps loaded his gloves

[@benpatsy2076]

Fantastic fight despite the controversial stoppage. 👏

[@lordbaronvonwalrusthethird3902]

Harsh as fuck for Groves, he took a couple of big punches and the ref got carried away by the crowd going nuts. Groves might not have been able to hang in much longer but you never know and that's the problem we'll never know thanks to a bad call.

[@JosephWalker-xq1im]

Never seen a worse robbery then this fight , groves absolutely schooled him for the first 9 rounds , downs him once , frochs legs went to jelly , fair play he knocked him out in the fight after but I just think the performance from grooves is probs the best performance of a boxer I’ve genuinely ever seen

[@louishogarth8315]

This is the first fight that got me into boxing

[@DBIIJ0U]

This fight got me back into boxing, the build up🤣

[@GuinessOriginal]

It was during this fight whilst flat on his back that Carl the international superstar Froch started believing the earth was flat

[@dylanqioniwasa]

A good fight BUT... looking back, I think I lean with the ref. Defending yourself is either: blocking up or punching back. It’s as simple as that! Throwing “bomb squads” blindly is not defending yourself!

[@russellr6089]

Dylan Q groves was goner get knocked spark out if ref let fight go on

[@thomaspollock9941]

He was throwing punches back and trying to block. He got caught by 2 clean shots, terrible stoppage!! Why didnt he let him go down, froch went down so why didnt he stop froch

[@mikemike5973]

That stoppage was a disgrace in a fight like this

[@moochoman9948]

Howard Foster is a quality ref but was horrendous on the night. Froch should have been deducted points and the stoppage was a really bad one.

[@shelbyvader1403]

First fight I ever went to was unbelievable atmosphere, fight was quality

[@davidsidebotham5310]

Not seen this for a while. What a fight that was! Groves was brilliant, and the ability of Froch to take those shots and keep going. Simply great…. We miss these days

[@ahmeterik2012]

You want to see amazing footwork. 5:52 . Amazing footwork by George. Amazing.

[@ucmeytsc7302]

Froch was beaten in round one and the ref would have been better stopping it then, his legs were gone, proves how biased a ref can be. Froch knows deep down he got a gift that night! Not only did he lose, he fought dirty all through the fight, cheap shots coming out of clinches, and after the bell, if the ref was fair he should have disqualified Froch well before the 8th round for consistent dirty tactics. in fairness when your in a scrap like that it is hard not to bend the rules lol. But having said all that he has a great channel on here and it turns out he comes across as a really nice chap. Now he and George are good mates.

[@james-tm2jq]

Amazing fight, a terrible stoppage and really in the last few rounds either guy could have been knocked out. I think Groves was a few punches from being dropped but he could have got up so we’ll never know but second fight was definitive

[@johnhall2281]

Biggest robbery ever in a fight

[@teddd1175]

Horrible referring, Froch should have had at least two points off and Groves should never have been stopped

[@jurassicmatt2796]

Wow, that's one horrendously stoppage.

[@wra7h]

Unbelievable stoppage

[@JohnSmith-mt3kp]

I haven't seen this fight again since it happened, but watching it back now thinking about how great a fight it was. Not that it matters now, but Froch should have been docked at least 3 points in this fight. The fight was obviously stopped too early too. As Groves was still swinging punches during the stoppage. I think the docking of points to Froch might have had an adverse affect on him sometimes it gives the opponent more belief, and the docked fighter less hope. One thing I will say though is that Froch has a chin and a half on him. His fitness levels are insane too. Just a neutral fan.

[@paulcasey4282]

Better for a referee to stop a fight a bit too early then a bit too late

[@elliotnffc5649]

After the first round when froch went back to the corner the first thing he says and you can clearly see his lips when he says this “HE Hurt Me”

[@andrewcowgill1880]

No shit. He was knocked down!

[@elliotnffc5649]

Andrew Cowgill woahhh Iam sorry

[@andrewcowgill1880]

@@elliotnffc5649 so u should be. Glad u now c your error.

[@elliotnffc5649]

Andrew Cowgill Christ I better watch out

[@elliotnffc5649]

Andrew Cowgill oh my

[@lukedempsey112]

Ref should've let it go on - Groves was maybe 30 seconds max from being stopped legitimately. Maybe 15 seconds, actually. Best bit was how karma came for George after he'd said 'Are you going to cry, Carl?' in the build-up, only for someone to film him in the corridor after the fight where he was going 'I'm not a loser! I'm not a loser!' and literally crying.

[@lazarpetrov3314]

George Groves real warrior

[@89Rands]

Obviously the stoppage from Howard Foster was disgraceful, but I never realised until re-watching the fight how utterly poor his performance was the entire fight. Froch constantly threw punches after the call to break, never once got punished. Foster didn’t know when to even call to break half of the time. Shocking refereeing performance.

[@adrianjohnlouis1]

Groves was still up on his feet and on points, should never have been stopped.🥊

[@pooledogg775]

I forgot what a bad stoppage this was. I do believe Froch would have knocked him down, but it was near the end of the round.

[@richjackson8349]

The stoppage was far too early

[@andrewreid749]

Holy crap that was an early stoppage time

[@betterdayz1660]

The guy in the crowd at 18.40 haha