Carl Panzram | Mental Health & Personality | Most Frightening Serial Killer Ever?

This video answers the questions: Can I analyze the mental health and personality factors at work in the Carl Panzram case?
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[@dorikaspar2415]

In case you’re wondering why his prison guard was the only human being that Carl could tolerate: the guard once offered him a cigarette, which, according to Panzram, was “the only nice thing anyone’s ever done” to him.

[@miketython9104]

FML facts

[@abdelhamidhamidissa8912]

Man! I didn't even continue the video yet and I can't believe.. all what he did..Now I see why capital punishment still exists

[@bobbycross1807]

He also gave him a dollar to buy commissary.

[@TheBub26]

selective memory mixed with victim noises

[@jwsuicides8095]

@@TheBub26 Whether true or not we know some are born into such a life. Tragic.

[@lis5827]

“My two biggest regrets are i wasn’t nicer to my pets and i didn’t kill the entire human race” sounds like a t-shirt from Hot Topic. Loved your list of least intimidating to most killers!!

[@PaulFE7]

Have you seen the documentary on Carl? I found it very interesting.

[@PaulFE7]

@@tinafoster8665 how he was pretty much a regular kid that might have had a few attention issues or something (based on the trouble at school. Then the way he was disproportionately (period typical) punished at school. Imo he became a product of his experience/environment. Again, imo, he was beaten under the pretense of [God's] love. Love equals pain. Beatings equal love. Not at all justifying his conduct bc it was truly horrible, but in the days leading up to his execution he had reflected on his life.

[@aithjawcraig9876]

@Paul F Exactly, I'd absolutely love to see anyone here come out any better tbh.

[@meltedmanwich3545]

"I wish you all had one neck so I can wrap my hand around it" -carl panzram

[@diegoaespitia]

he didnt say anything about pets. this guy was a cold blooded killer, im sure he wouldve strangled a dog

[@eadweard.]

When he says "Hello this is Dr. Grande" at the start, it sounds like he's just called you by phone, which gives everything a pleasantly personal feel.

[@kaseybrown7664]

"Hello, this is Dr. Grande. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU REGARDING YOUR CAR'S WARRANTY."

[@oharrison7158]

@@kaseybrown7664 lmaoo nice 1

[@Dragon-lt8ze]

Im so thankful he does that instead of. " WUT UP YEW TUBE? IT'S UR BOI" everyone seems to do that , and it annoys the shit out of me

[@mikehuff9793]

In my experience when the therapist calls you, it’s gonna be a long day🤣

[@ED-es2qv]

Wait, this wasn’t just sent to me? This reminds me of the time I found out Tom Shane had multiple stores and wasn’t just my friend in the diamond business.

[@jamesw17]

I read about Carl Panzram a while ago. If you want to know what childhood trauma can make a person become, his life story is instructive. Thank you Dr Grande.

[@tonyhardy4024]

Holy shit. This dude is a beast! He puts out detailed videos all day every week. And not crappy videos. Does he sleep? The guy works harder than me and I do manual labor in the sun all day. In Florida. It was 102° today. I wouldn't be able to keep up with this guy.

[@LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan]

I though you were referring to Panzram at first.

[@tonyhardy4024]

@@LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan hell no!! lol

[@shawnahansen8597]

He also does a lot of reading and research. Sometimes he'll say he was researching then put it aside for a few months. So not only is he prolific in putting out videos, these are not quick videos on how to apply mascara! There is a lot of thought and he probably prepares written summaries of each cases since he doesn't make mistakes. I think his quips are ad libbed - love them :)

[@Ron4885]

@@LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan So did I !

[@yocland8841]

I hear ya, brother. That's one of the reasons I left Memphis and came to California. I'm a painter and out here, it's in the 70s every day about 9 or 10 months of the yr. I just cant do that heat. Come out here. Idk what you do but whatever it is, there's more than enough work. In anything and the weather is awsome. Oh, you make tons more money as well.

[@strawberrybananapeel7141]

“Disorderly wasn’t going to cut it anymore” Dr. Grande, you’re killing me, I engage in hyperbole of course!

[@Brandon-a-writer]

this is the epi tome of hyper bowl

[@justchevrotainrating]

I got distracted on my phone but "their hacksaw for every prisoner policy" registered and I was like, "why am I laughing, wtf?"

[@SamiaB2009]

Drunk at 8 ! He must have had an awful childhood

[@mila81784]

He had... a very bad one... =(

[@mila81784]

Before he started doing bad things (drinking, stealing), his brothers used to hit him a lot, without any reason... his mother had a favorite child and when this son died, she gave up on everybody... Carl had just came back from the reformatory and she gave a shit to him... her son were abused in all possible ways and she did nothing.

[@stompthedragon4010]

I think the first time was age 5

[@tasmaniandevil6750]

@@mila81784 it’s a chicken egg problem. My first cousin who I grew up with is a psychopath. And she was maddening to her parents. Not to blame a child, but yeah. If they’re psychopathic they’re liable to exhaust their parents’ emotional resources

[@mila81784]

@@tasmaniandevil6750 Yes, I know they can do it, I love to study psychology but they way Carl was raised by his family was horrible and if you read the letters he exchanged with Lesser, he showed to have feelings, he was worried to not ask for things that would be expensive to Lesser (Some specific magazines), he showed regret about some few animals he killed and he tried to kill himself, what psychos rarely do....

[@kurtw531]

7:42 *"So, I guess it's a good thing he was never put in charge of a reform school."* Good one.

[@mr.l8527]

When you learn of his origins, he is almost pitiable. He truly cared about nothing and seemed to only have hatred for people - and even life. It makes you wonder how he would've turned out if only he had experienced real compassion in his life. He liked a prison guard that showed an interest in him, after all. I also think that in the end, he wanted to die. I think the rage he expressed in his life was as much internal as it was external and aimed at himself as much as it was at others. He may have said what he did, hoping for the death sentence. He didn't seem like he cared to wait. All in all, his story is equal parts horrifying and tragic.

[@annaheff7332]

In some of these pictures Panzram looks like a particularly angry Jude Law

[@SuzanneDeniseB]

Yes! I can't unsee that !

[@jackmeyers7805]

Was not hard to look at tbh

[@annnee6818]

Hahaha

[@zkring]

Nailed it

[@jovanna1967]

Carl only knew abuse,hurt people, hurt people.The people in charge of him(adults )abused him wherever he went, this was very sad story.

[@quintonmoad4418]

He was a piece of shit but if what he said about his childhood and adolescence is true, he’s like Aileen Wuornos; it’s hard to imagine his life turning out much differently than it did.

[@ryanlee5887]

He was turned into who he was by a series of misfortunes and maltreatment.

[@Buttercup-vw2zo]

No excuse tho. A lot of people have suffered as a Children sometimes tremendously but we make CHOICES

[@spideranansi929]

Exactly. He was repeatedly and horribly abused emotionally, physically, mentally and sexually by the staff even before he was an adult. Had he been treated differently as a juvenile he may have become hardworking upstanding citizen. The kind of abuse this man suffered would make a lot of people hateful and untrusting and violent. I'm not making excuses for what he did to his victims.

[@mrsmallpinky9041]

Well, sign of the times, he wasnt born long after children of around 8 years old were sent up chimneys to clean them "in the west"

[@elizabethraitanen5057]

I don’t think I would want to interview any of the serial killers! I prefer to get my info from you Dr.G! Thanks for another insightful video!

[@count9548]

U must have low openness to experience, or high neuroticism; probably both 😉

[@sarahvand3628]

Lol I would love to

[@Marauder99991]

"He committed a number of crimes" Oh man, your gift for understatement is *adorable*.

[@hcd621]

Justin A I wish he would narrate my shows I watch at night to fall asleep. His voice is so soothing!

[@dougsteel7414]

He did, it's just the number was in 4 digits

[@carriewilliams6707]

Youre such a good narrator!

[@misternought5028]

One of the worst cases of existential rage that I've ever seen. The kind of rage that only a fallen angel could have.

[@quester09]

the look on his face in the thumbnail...

[@rottweilertrainingUK]

You sure wouldn't want that to be your dad waiting up for you after you'd sneaked out to see your friends

[@ryanlee5887]

Panzram was consumed by rage and hatred, and he knew it. He couldn't wait to end his miserable existence and tried his best to get executed.

[@spideranansi929]

That rage came from the horrible sadistic abuse he received consistently throughout his life.

[@bobsaget9931]

Picture Me: That dude looks like he'd kill someone

[@bobsaget9931]

@Rock Stone Obviously

[@jguenther3049]

Looks like he'd kill ANYone.

[@Johnpinwheel]

Hey bob,, I am not a fan of full house. Fuller house made me feel sick when I watched it, it’s so bad that I had to just keep watching. I saw you on joe rogan, and well I’m not impressed. That’s all I got to say, god bless.

[@witchflowers6942]

@@jguenther3049 E V E R Y O N E

[@loud6037]

Panzram was the kind of killer who would have eaten someone like Ted Bundy for breakfast, before spitting him back out again. Really scary guy.

[@pshaw8406]

With those kinds of problems at such an early age I can't imagine his parents had the best, um, parenting methods. It's amazing he lived so long.

[@franmellor9843]

His last name sounds like a pharmaceutical drug

[@matth5734]

Side effects include psychopathy and homicide. Talk to your doctor before trying carlpanzram.

[@mrooz9065]

My fav comment of this vid.

[@violinistoftaupo]

It also sounds like Pacman...

[@franmellor9843]

@@mrooz9065 LOL THANKYOU LOL

[@franmellor9843]

@@rdb223 LOL

[@oddwad6290]

Wow ! Carl Panzram hasn't been mentioned by anyone in a very long time . It's great you gave a video on him . Glad to see you do videos on historic criminals .

[@BullwinklJMoose]

Could you explore as to why the mother-son dysfunction aspect effects so many serial killers? Or some theories?

[@NicoleStevensHays11x]

@Coolfellow I believe it’s because we learn tenderness, empathy, love from our mothers. Or you’re talking about why they hate their moms? Yeah, their moms become the template for how they treat other women. I think that they feel failed by their mothers. Some of this is genetic. His mom prolly was callous like him.

[@Xesxs]

I do. Read a book called " Why Men Rape". A woman psychologist interviewed prisoners incarcerated about their crime. She found the common denominator was the mother figure.

[@ashleys9397]

She wasn't much help in the good mental hygiene department. If you really want to learn a lot about this raging demon who couldn't quite pass for human I suggest a reading of "Panzram: A Journal of Murder".

[@sscoggin3521]

This man was abused from childhood and really had no chance of developing into a reasonable human being. It makes sense he had no empathy for others. As an intern psychologist I appreciate your fact-based approach to your formulation of his difficulties. It is fascinating how his face changed over the years in reflection of his very difficult existence.

[@qrchina]

"He burned one of the buildings to the ground, and was released after that" hahahaha

[@ImadeUlook]

They musta been like "ain't got no time for this shit" 😂

[@GavinsMarineMom]

Kind of like what's currently happening in many large American cities.

[@floratink]

😂😂

[@elphaba4674]

Seems logical right?! 🤣

[@mrooz9065]

He was quite a negotiator.

[@ebonypenguin2899]

The whole case of Carl Panzran is so tragic and difficult to discern where blame lies. I can kind of empathize with Panzran about the corruption he was so bitter about. It's easy to focus on what he did, forgetting to focus on what was done to him by those who should be held to certain standards. At the same time there also comes a point where he maybe could have chosen differently - started a new life, no crime, and stayed under the radar. A waste of his life and those of his victims, so tragic all around.

[@lindabrennan4455]

IMO the level of abuse and the environment that he was raised in did not allow for any choices. I feel very strongly that if we were to look back on the most vicious, cruel people in the world it would trace back to horrible abuse from childhood with few exceptions. I'm not an expert. My opinions are from what I've read and learned throughout my life.

[@theflyingdonkeypunch]

There's an interview with Charles Mason where the interview asked him if he felt guilty about the pain he had caused. Manson's reply was that pain was something he knew very well. Panzram is a similar case. Someone who has only known neglect, violence and complete indifference to empathy. You could say he never had a chance, really.

[@sarahvand3628]

Exactly

[@lynnv8501]

Sad to think what his upbringing was like, what trauma he might have endured.

[@mlovmo]

Perhaps Panzram and Manson were set up for failure. That is a real possibility. There is also the possibility that they CHOSE what they did, and that they knew what they were doing was wrong. For MOST human beings, I would caution against assuming that people cannot CHOSE right over wrong. We deny them the humanity to overcome their lot, and instead think that everything they do is simply an automatic response to their background and circumstances, like they are simply animals. Morality is something 99% of people can choose or not choose.

[@stompthedragon4010]

@@mlovmo I don' t know about your percentage but in many cases you are right.

[@Fefe559]

this guy made have something going on genetically, but I think his case is 99% nurture, not nature, especially then, they were not into children's emotional well being.

[@bellam7359]

"It's a good thing he was never put in charge of a reform school" 😂😂

[@BuxomBunny13]

That part got me too 😂

[@lyndsieannette957]

😂😂😂

[@Peter-pd9hy]

I'm glad you think this topic is a laughing matter. Well done

[@jaredticer6255]

Just want ya to know i have been listening to you every morning as i walk my dog and it really puts me in a good mood. It’s something i look forward to and not gonna get into details about me, but that’s saying a lot. Also, I think it’s really cool how well you respond to viewer questions and requests. Thanks for all the hard work you do for us and others as a mental health Dr. 🙂

[@rebirthoftragedy]

I have a question for you, Dr. Todd Grande!!! I've studied Carl Panzram quite extensively and your analysis of him was honest and unreserved. Thank you, I appreciate that. I've made a conclusion about him and I'd appreciate your thoughts about it. Carl killed many men and assaulted many others, but the boys that he assaulted and killed were all the same age, or at least, he believed them to be 11 or 12. All of these events happened during a particularly stressful time in his life, for example, losing his job on the oil rig in Africa. This makes me think he associated the stress with the first really stressful time in his life, entering Minnesota State Training School for Boys. I believe he assaulted these boys because they were the same age he was when he was sent there. Afterwards, he killed them by causing violent trauma to the head. My thoughts are he chose to put them out of their misery because that's what he wished someone would have done for him. What do you think?

[@Aisatsana1971]

Interesting theory. That makes sense from the Jungian perspective of the inner shadow being projected.

[@ChristensenPetra]

Thank you for covering Panzram, and doing a great job while doing so. He was one of the initial characters to inspire my fascination with these interesting minds. I really appreciate the addition of photographs in your video. I believe that extra visual element is a great direction for your channel. 👍🏻

[@TimeForDrew]

As far as a “parasitic lifestyle” goes I would say he was quite parasitic. Not in the way of having somebody support him (except for the government during his many stays in various public institutions) but more over he survived and supported himself through thefts and burglaries. That type of behavior is inherently parasitic. P.S. I’m also a clinical psychologist and I love your videos

[@ashb6940]

I'm early so I just wanted to say I really appreciate your videos, I'm going into my freshman year of high school and I plan to be a psychiatrist in the future, so these videos are very interesting and educational :)

[@cindyrhodes]

Oh wow, Chad!! You are getting a headstart on your career here!!! All the best to you!!!!! 🎓 👨‍🎓

[@mrooz9065]

Dr. Chad Bernard, M.D. , Psychiatrist, FAPA. Good for ya and good luck Chad. We need a lot of psychiatrists with penchant for psychology.

[@ashb6940]

@@cindyrhodes thanks so much :)

[@ashb6940]

@@mrooz9065 aww thank you so much :D you really made me smile

[@cindyrhodes]

@@ashb6940 You are so welcome!!! Maybe we will be watching 👀 YOUR channel someday!!!!!

[@blowitoutyourcunt7675]

You're hilariously cheeky! Keep it up! Cheers Doc!

[@longwhitemane]

Beautifully done & thank you so much for this one! Panzram is my favorite figure I love to hate because even though he's long gone, he still scares the heck out of me because his existence reminds me that there are people out there that are just like him. Thanks again! 😊

[@dqreps]

"Hacksaw for every prisoner policy" 😂

[@carolinarios2994]

I loved that one two😂😂😂

[@witchflowers6942]

"the jury sentenced him to death after deliberating for less than one minute" they prolly all just looked at eachother and said "yeah this one's gotta go"

[@wolfe6220]

"Get rid of the whole man." 😆

[@jicudi]

I've been looking forward to you analyzing this individual. A truly shocking life, set of experiences, and blueprint of how abuse begets abuse.

[@TomokoAbe_]

Carl had a very hard life since he was born, and knew nothing of life other than pain and suffering. When he legs and back were fractured he received absolutely no medical care, but thrown in a cell. He is every bit a victim of life's circumstances.

[@literaltiffy1699]

I watched a doc based on the book. I must say, with his upbringing and life, I can't imagine him turning out another way. Those that suffer such hardships and come out the other side as productive members of society are the true heros. They put in the work!

[@kojilopez7484]

Hey Dr Grande, You should do an analysis of MLK Why his philosophy and methods were so profound and give us a whole exposition on how your discipline sees him. I've been dying to hear something like that!

[@JoanWhack]

That's an incredible suggestion. I'd love to see that, and I'm sure would thousands of others

[@JohnPaul-le4pf]

Great idea. His thoughts on Malcolm would be appreciated, too.

[@MateDrinker33]

It sounds like it would be out of the scope of this channel.

[@polarbearsrus6980]

Fascinating, I'd never heard of him. Speaking of Bundy, I can't imagine him ever attacking a man. A couple of women actually got away from him when he couldn't get the handcuffs on one of them and another ran into the woods and got away. I think this was in the early days of his crimes and he was still perfecting his craft, disgusting. Thanks for another interesting and informative video.

[@james87367]

Ted Bundy was quite scrawny.

[@reswobiandreaming3644]

Poor Carl Panzram was never given a chance. First there was negligent and ineffectual parenting. Then he was institutionalised and assaulted repeated times. That turned him into a monster on an endless quest for revenge. This is yet another example of the human price of abuse.

[@HerestheT]

This was a baaad guy. Scary. Thank you for covering this is such great depth. Would you consider reviewing Robert Paul Langley? He was a convicted murderer who was sent to the Oregon State Hospital for psychiatric issues and at some point kills while there and hides the body on the state hospital grounds, in a garden. I’m curious what was going on there. Thanks for all you do!

[@matth5734]

This guy looks mean as hell. (Carl Panzram, not Dr. Grande)

[@VIK_1903]

Panzram ain't got nothing on Dr. Grande... If both come swinging at each other, Panzram would've been reformed in one blow...

[@Ron4885]

Yeah, not the kind of guy you want working and the kindergarten.

[@theedmee]

In this case, definitely judge a book by its cover. A lot of people are overlooking Panzram's childhood. If you want to know why he became what he did, that's a good place to start.

[@tross8863]

@@VIK_1903 funny 😄

[@feralbluee]

~~ LOL ~~ :}

[@bobdpa]

"He burned one of the buildings there to the ground. Then was released." 🤔

[@chrischineseman1454]

Crazy timing. Literally watched a Panzram documentary yesterday and it was the first time I ever heard of him. Very sad indeed.

[@animaanimus1032]

“If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough” Dr Grande obviously knows what he is talking about, does his research and takes a considered and professional approach to his work. I’m new to the channel and have been watching him all most nonstop for a couple weeks.....Christopher Hitchens, Steven Pinker, Sam Harris and Dr Todd Grande are four examples, that I would hold up, of people who can “explain it simply”........

[@frenstcht]

“If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough...." You will never be able to understand General Relativity without understanding the math.

[@Fliedermutter]

You are really hard working. Thank you very much ❤

[@Tom-kt8lu]

I love how specific you are about firearms.

[@JeanieD]

When you listed the serial killers in order of most frightening, I admit you had me dropping out at Bianchi, mostly because I’m female. For that reason, David Parker Ray (aka the Toy-Box Killer)has always frightened me a lot. Maybe you could do a video on him sometime, Dr. Grande. Thanks! 👍🏻

[@makepeace234]

Omg that's a really good suggestion! I wholeheartedly agree! 👍

[@pinky567]

Yes I agree being a woman he was an extremely gruesome man and had his daughter I believe help lure women if I’m correct.😱

[@codirennke1109]

Yeah Dr. Grande obviously came at this ranking system from a man's point of view. You couldn't pay me enough to sit in a room with Ed Kemper. And I agree about the Toy Box Killer. Dr. Grande mentions that some of these serial killers didn't murder anyone once they were in prison... well duh. A serial killer of women who surprise attacks women because of feelings of inadequacy, before doing disgusting things to their bodies, isnt going to murder other men in prison. I wouldn't chance being around someone like that though for any amount of money. And the toy box killer obviously isnt interested in torturing men.

[@EvilxSausage]

Good suggestion.

[@tapeduk]

Yeah I suggested David Parker Ray a month ago but no one paid any attention to it......maybe it makes a difference if you 'support' this channel

[@ProMachus6]

Has to be the shortest deliberation period of all time

[@teresahowick5197]

I’d say it probably broke a record

[@jguenther3049]

I can imagine the panel filing into the jury room, the door closing, and all of them looking around and saying "Guilty!" I doubt anyone sat down.

[@dunadanfer]

No 12 angry men there.

[@joychappell3817]

Really enjoyed your ranking of the scariest serial killers to be in a room alone with! Fascinated by this topic and the mental analysis of serial killers in general. Keep up the great work Dr. Grande!👍👍👏

[@shayna.e.111]

Dr. Grande you speak of horrendous things... yet your videos are soothing for me. You have a wonderful demeanor.💗

[@tjschoenlein5189]

I agree...Carl is the one I would be on high alert with. He is both predictable & unpredictable in his behaviors. You know he wants to hurt you...you just don’t when he will attack.

[@tallbeauty]

I just heard about this man on Morbid. I know we're not supposed to feel bad for serial killers but the world did him horribly as a child. HORRIBLY! Nurture killed every bit of humanity he had. So sad.

[@badbabybear1]

"He did not strike me as gentle" I love Dr. Grande's dry humor

[@babygloriagetsomesleep3826]

Ohhh I’ve been waiting for this one

[@animaanimus1032]

As I’m from Gloucester, I would love to hear your thoughts on Fred and Rose West......

[@chynnadoll3277]

Oh heck yeah! I would like to see that too.

[@jwinnfield9192]

I also wanna hear that

[@ishy7856]

Yes! The Moors murderers too. Myra seemed to undergo a huge change when she met Brady... I've always wondered how he really did it so easily

[@kathleenryan1371]

Thank you for reviewing this case. I saw a documentary about him years ago. What he did was excruciatingly cruel,but he learned that cruelty as a defenseless child with no hope for escape. I vehemently believe there are some kids who just never had a chance, and he was one of them. It is tragic what happens in the life of a throwaway child. Also, it is possible he committed all the crimes he confessed to, but I got the strong feeling he may have been exaggerating a little to make himself seem like a wild animal. That could have been a coping mechanism to try to protect himself, as in projecting an image of "don't f*ck with me". Curious if you picked up on the same?

[@Estelle-Maureen]

It's FRI-YAY and Dr. Grande is coming through for the weekend!!!

[@Cultivatingjoy07]

I would sit down with Ed Kemper only if I was a man. He seemed to have no issues with men, only women seemed to be able to trigger his rage. Great video! You're always so interesting so thank you Dr. Grande.

[@audreygibson4780]

I came across one of those 'fan edit' videos of Richard remirez. So creepy all those girls comments about how they love him. Have u done a video about that doc? The ppl that fall for murderers?

[@mrooz9065]

Yes, but I’m not Dr. Grande.

[@Elleffe]

Yes he did - check it out

[@shaun_rambaran]

He did.

[@jalasword]

Audrey Gibson, I read that he never brushed his teeth. Thus, causing horrendous bad breath. If those women could smell his photos. I am pretty sure that their infatuation would be over with.

[@stompthedragon4010]

There' s a name for that. I forget what it is.

[@JoanWhack]

Probably not very unhelpful but, Panzram sounds like a benzodiazepine

[@franmellor9843]

Yess

[@cindyrhodes]

Lol!!!

[@Tarmov]

@Dirkjan More like, he didn't need it at all. That guy was a fearless predator.

[@markcarey67]

Side effects may include rage, arson, rape and kleptomania...

[@JoanWhack]

@Rock Stone Oh honey, I know. It's just had the alphabetical arrangement of a Benzo. Tbh my last name isn't too dissimilar

[@Level30Commoner]

Thank you very much for picking up my suggestion so quickly! And if the video was already in the making, thank you very much anyway. :-) I really appreciate your assessment of Panzram. I'm convinced that a "career" like his was only possible in this specific time period, but that makes him no less terrifying and tragic. He still stands for me as one of the worst examples of the human condition. I'd also really appreciate more videos about historical personalities. At least for me they're much more fascinating than fictional characters. :-)

[@salster]

I'm so pleased that you covered Carl Panzram! This is one of my favorite videos of yours. I was particularly intrigued by the serial killer ranking thing.

[@Cat-tastrophee]

Interesting list and question posed at the end. I would not be as afraid to sit and talk with some of the most notorious serial killers like Ed Kemper or Gary Ridgeway. They have the capacity to be pleasant and unassuming, and attacking people interviewing them in prison isn't their style -- they prefer the hunt. However, those with highly volatile tempers and only a tenuous grasp of reality and have no fear of repercussions and act on impulses, or those who just have a really strong "creepy" factor (like Stephen McDaniel who murdered his neighbor, Lauren) are a big no for me. I worked with a child in Special Ed who was quite bright and friendly at times, and then suddenly his eyes would change and he would try to hurt you, seemingly out of nowhere. He fantasized about killing people and was highly unpredictable and violent. He scared the shit out of me on a gut level. I fear what he might do in the future.

[@malabuha]

What do you mean by "his eyes would change.." i've heard that expression before and i'm curious about what you meant. Did the look in his eyes appear different? Or...

[@LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan]

@@malabuha I have a feeling their irises are enveloped by the pupil. It's claimed their eyes become almost black when a person is intent on murdering someone. I guess, though, this person has to have the want/need to kill. I don't know that if someone was doing so in self-defense, would their eyes change in a similar manner. Just my two cents.

[@jguenther3049]

@@tallulah6342 Sounds like an odd form of bipolar disorder. Did he walk in his sleep a lot?

[@controlvoice7045]

Great video. I'm surprised you didn't put Albert Fish on that list. He was one of the most fiendish serial killers to ever exist. The only saving grace is that his list of known victims is mercifully small. I'd be very interested to hear what you have to say about Albert Fish since according to his own confessions he had a whole list of derangements and obsessions.

[@aflawedhuman2046]

Had to use the word Grace huh...

[@Nate-im3sg]

Albert Fish... That guy sounds like a real jerk.

[@tross8863]

He was abused badly as a child, I just watched something on him on a documentary. Not saying that an excuse but it was pretty horrible. You could do a video on that part alone. Especially the "surgery" his father did on his ear that affected his brain! If he'd turned out normal I would be completely shocked. He had any feelings for humanity beat completely out of him.

[@mariamatmos4506]

This video was awesome, Dr Grande! Such an interesting point about interviewing serial killers!!

[@walterrinko1429]

What a great sense of humor you have Dr. You are perfect for these type videos.

[@niamhryan9677]

Brilliant Dr. Grande. A thorough analysis. Thank you

[@rayross997]

Please cover Albert Pierrepoint, Britain's leading Hangman for decades with over 450 executions. He even hung a former friend convicted of murder, plus over 200 Nazi war criminals.

[@annalisette5897]

In a similar vein, Dr. Grande should take a look at Henry VIII who was responsible for many legal executions, including two of his wives. Queen Anne Boleyn was also the mother of Henry's child Elizabeth I. How could he kill his wives?

[@joego7924]

@@annalisette5897 easy, they get annoying!

[@ariadneschild8460]

@@annalisette5897 it was political, he needed an heir and allies against his enemies.

[@itachisdisciple]

You Doctor are very funny with the delivery of jokes by keeping the poker face i very much appreciate your hard work/effort for these videos been very addicted to watching them every chance i get keep up the great work sir from the UK

[@j.nalley3480]

I just requested you do this and here you are, a year early! Thanks for all you do doc.

[@catheriner5187]

I love the quip about Carl Panzram’s idea as to how to run a reform school. No students.

[@kulik03]

Video suggestion: the Turpin family who tortured and kept their 12 children imprisoned at home

[@mcd5478]

kulik03 Oh wow. Yes. Good suggestion!

[@mzliberty7647]

ur humor... gets me every time... cant believe u dont have more sub's keep up the good work... and May God Bless You Dr Todd.

[@lindaclement3407]

As always, a thoroughly interesting video. Many thanks!

[@FrancesShear]

Dr. Grande perhaps if Carl Panzram ever answered a questionnaire in research on attachment style his answers might fit into a fearful and dismissive with a strong negative model of self or his answers would fit into no attachment style category at all depending on the theories believed in when drawing up the questionnaire.

[@MR-yx8hj]

You should do a video on Elizabeth Báthory. I know there seems to be much mythos around the murders; but she is an interesting figure.

[@JessHull]

I've been wanting this analysis for a long time!

[@melissaquinn6845]

I read his book, and one reason he could keep escaping is he used a whole bunch of aliases. So when he ended up in a new prison they were unaware that he had already had a long history of escapes. They treated him like any other prisoner.

[@Rednecdownunder]

I’m attempting to get my master’s at UCCS in counseling and you’re teaching me a lot of the terminology and approaches to critical thinking! Thanks so much!!

[@TWW-zk9gw]

An obscure piece of trivia; the handgun Panzram stole from President Taft is the same model you can see used by the character Professor Dent as he attempts to murder James Bond in the film Doctor No. Bond erroneously refers to it as a Smith and Wesson in the scene but the weapon used is a .45 Colt M1911.

[@tylerh.7282]

This was one of the better videos in awhile. Phenomenal stuff.

[@gretchenhughes9652]

I love your KZbin channel. I am a RN. I worked in ICU & we got a great many in with mental issues or drug issues along with physical illnesses such as heart disease or diabetes. This made nursing care a challenge. Great job! Spot on!😇😇

[@CB-ke9rs]

"Hacksaw for every prisoner policy" & "...put in charge of a reform school" were priceless 😂😂😂 Great question! I'd be very keen to include on my "interview a serial killer list" the following (starting with the most depraved): 1. Charles Ng and Leonard Lake (partners in crime) 2. Dennis Rader 3. Ted Bundy 4. Kenneth Bianchi Anyway, as always, thanks for another interesting analysis, Dr. Grande!

[@juliadumaurier9494]

The serial killer Albert Fish operated around the same time as Panzram. His story has always left me feeling a certain level of uneasiness in the pit of my stomach that hasn’t been quite replicated by any other serial murderer. From a clinical perspective I suppose he would be very interesting to interview however, if sat next to him, I get the feeling my level of fright would be around the same as it was seeing Tim Curry’s version of IT as a five year old in the 90s. Thanks for the video ❤️

[@wolfe6220]

With most serial killers, I can remain pretty detached from what they've done, but when I read about Fish, I just wanted to vomit. As far as criminals I'd like to interview, Dahmer would be first. I don't think I'd be in any danger because, 1. I'm not an attractive gay man, and 2. He has no access to alcohol. Ive read that for those who have urges to kill, drinking lowers that threshold dramatically. Dahmer is the biggest example of that. I'd also like to interview Kemper. He's smart and very self aware. I don't think I'd be in too much danger, despite being a woman. He did try to stop killing and avoided killing a couple of times when he had the opportunity. Plus, the women he killed were all stand ins for his evil mother and his desire to kill dropped dramatically after that day.

[@lindabrennan4455]

I am very happy to hear the analysis of these killers from people like yourself Dr Grande. I have absolutely no desire to interview or chat with them myself. There would be no chatting, just me running away as hard and as fast as I possibly can.

[@jdbattito5131]

You are awesome! I am a daily viewer! Thank you Dr Grande

[@CosmicFox808]

Thank you for making this video! I hadn't heard of this person. Interesting story.

[@MystiDawn]

I'm excited for this one! I've read about him and watched some documentaries. I find him quite interesting.

[@chrisgould101]

Your one of those girls who love serial killers

[@MystiDawn]

I find them interesting, but definitely wouldn't say I have any love for them.

[@supernova5107]

As far as who I would like to interview, there are so many throughout history I can't even begin to think of one in particular. I do find Richard Kuklinski to be very intriguing although I've seen all of his interviews. Like Panzram Kuklinski grew up in a very cold Loveless environment. Kind of makes you worried about how many of these people are running a course to end up just like the Bundys of the world.

[@vicaldama9314]

I remember the graphic novel by Joe Coleman who also is a painter about this man. This actually filled in a lot of gaps from 20 years ago! Thanks Doc!

[@tylerh.7282]

Dr. Grande love your channel. We need a Richard Trenton Chase, the Vampire of Sacramento video.

[@itsAltoClarinet]

The documentary "Carl Panzram: The Spirit of Hatred and Vengeance" is a tough watch; he didn't have much of a chance of being normal at all. Dogs are easier to rehab than humans. My serial killers of choice weren't listed: Nannie Doss aka The Giggling Granny and Leonarda Cianciulli aka The Soap Maker of Correggio.

[@JoanWhack]

The soap maker is actually intriguing. She truly believed in destiny and it actually ruined her. I'd love to hear Dr Grande's take on Leonarda Cianciulli, because it is truly one of the most bizarre cases

[@HumanimalChannel]

Oh dear I hear soapmaker, and see the rendering of human fat.

[@itsAltoClarinet]

@@HumanimalChannel "Yup, with enough soap, you could blow up the whole world." Leonarda would've appreciated Tyler Durden.

[@HumanimalChannel]

@@itsAltoClarinet Absolutley where my head was at...that, and picturing brad Pitt with that rubber glove

[@stompthedragon4010]

I just watched one on Nannie Doss.. Not that she wasn't a crazy biatch, but she is far from.alone in her class. The particular video maker whose video I watched didnt make it very interesting.

[@job2098]

Love the list at the end! Really takes a lot of knowledge on the subjects, just shows how informed you are! Thought about doing the toolbox killers? They’re the only ones who’s crimes made me nauseous when I read them in detail.

[@ElGibby]

Hey there Dr Grande, another great analysis as always! I’ve been following your channel for a while and love it! Could you look into Michael Turney, who thankfully was arrested yesterday? I’d be really interested to hear your take on this guy and the mental health stuff going on around him. Thanks and keep doing what you do!

[@lidahall5928]

"Confess Your Way To An Acquittal"!

[@mrooz9065]

They were begging him to just leave.

[@MrRC2501]

Read his book (Panzram: A Journal of Murder), it's a wild ride...

[@ryanlee5887]

Great book.

[@jacktheripoff1888]

I have it. Yes a truly wild ride. I think what I find most mind-blowing was how much this guy traveled, first around America and then the world. And apart from a few times he traveled on a ship as a crewman in some capacity, I don't think he paid for a ticket in his life.

[@AngiesCousin]

Informative with an twist of entertainment. Thanks Dr G.

[@elizabethsalvatore1633]

The man who wouldn’t die.😢 Thank you for your work.❤

[@misse7154]

I'm surprised you didn't put the Golden State Killer on your list. He scares the crap out of me! Like Panzram, he also took advantage of a lack of information sharing by authorities to kill all over the state. Didn't have any epic prison breaks, because he avoided incarceration for 40-50 years! I recently learned that he killed someone a block away from where I grew up and another right next to my elementary school. I was very young at the time. For some reason, after it happened, nobody spoke about it until he was prosecuted recently and I wasn't even aware he committed these crimes until I listened to "Man in the Window" (which is an excellent podcast series), where they described the location...