Don't Call Me A Master - Interview With The Man Behind Kreosote Boots

Mens boots come in a variety of types: work boots, casual boots, cowboy boots, but arguably the king of them all is a bespoke boot. Of course, custom boots are available in any style you like but finding one which truly resonates with you is much more rare. This is what first brought me to Gabbard when his brand was called MYG Handmade. The Nail Shank boots were the most incredible design I'd ever seen and I just had to have a pair to call my own. Years later Gabbard and I remain friends, and though his brand is now Kreosote - American Built Folkelore Boots, the aesthetic and build quality is very much the same.
This is a rare opportunity to ask a master bookmaker (though he'd rather not be called a master) what goes into building some of the best boots in the world. I hope you enjoy our conversation!
Kreosote: www.kreosote.com
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
2:04 Why are people drawn to Kreosote designs?
5:23 Why handmade?
10:02 Why are Kreosote boots so expensive?
12:42 Art plus function
14:11 Influencers
20:13 Construction and leather
29:09 The Design
35:34 Function al art
38:23 Humble beginnings
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Reviews of clothing, boots, and accessories for men, along with style advice and life philosophy. I've been working with my hands for my entire life as a mechanic, tow truck driver, and eventually a licensed electrician. Being a blue collar guy, I look for certain elements in a product: is it durable? Is it high-quality? Will it perform well over its service life? Whether boots, pants, jackets, or tools I believe it's best to buy once and cry once by getting the best you can afford. With so many options these days, choosing the best product can become a difficult decision, but that's where I come in. Helping you stay stylish, rugged, and handsome.
I don't care where it's made as long as it's made well, and allows you to buy less and buy better.

[@CarlMurawski]

What did you guys think? Should I interview more people like Gabbard?

[@cdakskid]

Absolutely - If you can find more people like Gabbard! That was a great interview.

[@kareemwael2989]

That was a fantastic interview Carl.

[@elmarwaldvogel3383]

Absolutely! Could‘ve listen 2 more hours. 👍🏻

[@bradanderson5494]

This was fantastic. Please do more content like this. I can honestly say this was my favorite video I've watched on KZbin in recent memory. I have a lot more respect for both Kreosote as a business and your filmmaking, Carl. It's a funny thing to realize you'd much rather watch a 45 minute interview with a bootmaker than a movie or show.

[@raphthecollector3824]

Late watching this but definitely yes!

[@JimGreenFootwearOfficial]

Great way to start the morning in South Africa, Thanks Carl.

[@CarlMurawski]

Thank you my friend!

[@knunk5476]

This guy is the perfect boot maker in my opinion. This is 100% the most interesting interview i’ve ever listened too, and everything you talked about resonated deeply with me. As a massive boot enthusiast, I can say this was extremely similar to my opinions on boots and very enjoyable.

[@CarlMurawski]

I'm so glad to hear that! Thank you so much for watching

[@matthewwright4855]

Absolutely

[@Marcel-ff9gp]

After 22 months, I got my nail shanks a few days ago. I cannot describe how satisfied and enthusiastic I am. When I see and wear the boots I have to think about how much love Gabbard made them for this craft.

[@andrewsalazar98]

So this is the guy behind the MYG boots. Those looked killer.

[@CarlMurawski]

Yes sir! Now called Kreosote Boots.

[@tockingwatches2377]

This was an enjoyable interview. I love how craftsmen and women articulate their inspiration and vision. Thanks for doing this.

[@Aldiggi]

A 36 month waiting list. That’s incredible. Would be a dream come true to own one of these. What an incredible individual. Thank you Carl for such a great channel and amazing interview.

[@isaacdogliani]

I suspect my shoe size would change in that time

[@jeremyt2212]

Yeah these are definitely an aspirational item. Not sure when in my life I'd ever have ~$1000 to spend on a pair of boots but these would for sure be on top of the list. I was hooked ever since the first time I saw those nails nailshank boots on this channel.

[@CarlMurawski]

That time may come sooner than you realize! I got my Nail Shank boots back when they were $900 and it was a huge expense, but I truly don't get a better feeling wearing any of my other footwear. So is it worth it? That all depends.

[@drhientran]

@@CarlMurawski value is in the workmanship and how much you want to support guys like this n their skills.

[@jimmccoys5778]

I can’t say enough how fascinating this interview was. The b roll footage of watching him do his thing so good!! Thanks for the insight into his craftsmanship. Im really trying to find a way to get a pair of these! I just really admire his work ethic and just to have something handcrafted and unlike the off the shelf stuff!! Absolutely love this! His stuff is absolutely works of art that can be used!!! Thanks again

[@CarlMurawski]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@cdakskid]

After watching this video and looking at his website, I think these Kreosote boots are amazing and a very tempting purchase. The craftmanship and style are incredible. The only thing that scares me a little bit is the measuring process, which I fear I would get wrong. They are expensive, but with 50 hours (not including the time it takes to design and develop them) of hand work by such a skilled guy, I definitely don't think they are overpriced for those who value what goes into them. Also, if one was trying to talk themselves into pulling the trigger, he mentioned that it can take 18 months to take delivery. If you saved $2.55 per day of that waiting time, they would be paid off by that time. Yeah, I'm trying to talk myself into it.

[@CarlMurawski]

Hahaha Yes that can be daunting. I measured probably three or four times before sending him the fit sheet. He will kind of go over your measurements with you though if anything seems out of whack.

[@trentv5456]

Started shopping for hiking boots and I ended up here!! Love any type interviews with these craftsman in their trade. Just goes to show you that there are lots folks that want customized, handmade items. Would have never found out about this without your channel. Subscribing!

[@TheSilentsniper1973]

It is always nice to hear their philosophy on their product. It gives a nice image of their passion

[@francispetaluma]

At 18:30 he’s basically talking about “form follows function” - this is where are all aesthetics are created.

[@joeb5183]

It’s a shame some people are hung up on the cost and do not appreciate the artistry. The time it takes to develop the lasts, source the materials and then to construct the boot is very difficult for just one person. Approx 50 boots per year @$1,400 =$70k before deducting materials, that’s not a lot left for the artist.

[@CarlMurawski]

I absolutely agree. I suppose those are the people who would never appreciate boots like his if they were free.

[@Daywalker222]

Carl, great job letting the genius speak! It was fascinating to listen.

[@rebel1988us]

I couldn’t even think about being able to afford these right now, but I guess I now have a new goal in life. Maybe a retirement gift kind of thing. These boots just have something that is beautiful and can’t put my finger on it.

[@yifanzheng1999]

guy looks as badass as the boots he makes

[@CarlMurawski]

Hahaha right? Gabbard is the real deal.

[@kartikchary]

Very interesting person, what he said about learning being a continuous process was pretty deep. His boots seem to reflect his personality in many ways, they're well thought through and seem to embody his thirst for knowledge and excellence. Great interview ,loved it.

[@CarlMurawski]

Thank you! That was one of my favorite parts too, and a very wise outlook on life in general.

[@k.b.o.7514]

Very interesting take on one man's journey, your best video I've watched.

[@jimmydgrant]

For those of us that appreciate not just the result, but what it takes to achieve that result, $1400 is an absolute bargain.

[@davidanddavidstrading]

there is a little part of me that is sad about seeing you hit 1 million subs, but you have earned every single inch of it man!! Long Live the Sub 100k Club. OG's in their own right.

[@zacharyallen3193]

I’m going to order a pair. So glad I found this guy!

[@lupuscorvus841]

Fun fact: The Greek word for art is Techni which is where we get the term "technology". It can also be translated as craft, workmanship, trade, artfulness, etc. so art and technology (practical things) were always closely tied to one another from the beginning.

[@lakevacm]

Nice craftsmanship. I like the squared off toe, because it is not overdone. It’s visually very pleasing.

[@CarlMurawski]

I agree, and I think it took a long time to hit that balance.

[@thewizardsofthezoo5376]

I have seen some very meticulous Japanese Cobblers, and some Italian and English shoes are well made, but the bulky American look is special and adds to the diversity of high end shoemaking, I love it.

[@danielirvine7468]

Loved this man! He sure knows his stuff ! Humble too

[@CarlMurawski]

No doubt! Gabbard is the real deal!

[@ashinthewind0077]

Beautiful interview. I know it’s two years old and I am late to your profile man but you both speak words that resonate with me. I have work with boots my whole left and I think I am ready to get some crafted boots from Gabbard. When you speak about slipping your foot into your nail shank that popping sensation you feel sounds like a experience I want to feel. I hope he feels like I am good enough to get a pair because I am so fixated on his craftsmanship and respect that! I’m gonna try to start my buying process this coming year. Any suggestions when I speak to him?

[@Tommyboy0670]

Excellent interview Carl! Paying a master craftsman less than $30/hr to make a work of art like these boots is fu@king crazy! I'd love to sit down and have a beer with this guy! Hell I'd love to sit down and have a beer with both of you, but I have a feeling my wallet would be significantly lighter?!

[@CarlMurawski]

Hahaha we can make that happen soon!

[@mendezj1287]

Wow this video is amazing this is why I love your channel you go into the depths in order to articulate not just what you consider great value but also get the company behind their products to give us insight into why there so passionate and so dedicated to their craft

[@CarlMurawski]

I appreciate that! Even though I know videos like this wont get a boatload of views, it's just something I think people would enjoy. A glimpse into a world that we may never see otherwise. Thank you for the kind words!

[@mendezj1287]

@@CarlMurawski your welcome

[@seanclark5670]

Thoses boots are amazing I want a pair just not sure where I will be in life in 42 months ugh

[@n00bstacle]

It's weird to think about how I thought these were so expensive yet I wasted over $1,000 on a set of wheels for my truck because they looked cool.

[@CarlMurawski]

Great point man, its all about priorities and what you like.

[@Tommyboy0670]

100% This!

[@annahenderson1730]

This was such a fun watch, thank you!

[@CarlMurawski]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Ltlantnee]

Fascinating! thanks

[@johnkochiss7276]

Excellent video, thanks for the great content.

[@CarlMurawski]

Much appreciated!

[@thewizardsofthezoo5376]

They are 2 grand, but TBH if he does everything by hand and it takes a week, plus the material, it's not even that expensive some something unique. It is expensive in general, but given they are unique and they spell the survival of an ancient crafts, it is an elite item which the artistic handcrafted side justifies the price.

[@johnminden669]

Can’t wait for this! 💯

[@CarlMurawski]

I hope it didn't disappoint!

[@aurtisanminer2827]

I really like the toe structure on the nail boot. The curve of the sole looks pretty comfortable to wear, too.

[@cynthiaenglish2736]

A true craftsman and artist. Wish he made boots for women.

[@CarlMurawski]

He has one or two women’s models. I think one is called 33 Crow and the other is Red Dirt or something close.

[@lemon611ify]

Amazing so far

[@CarlMurawski]

Thank you man!!!!

[@stablestoic1491]

Boots is the one thing I need to flesh out in my ward robe. I work QC at a castings foundry here in NW PA, Meadville. I own 2 pairs of $180 metatarsals for work, one for actual working in and one to wear out on weekends; will eventually rotate into work shoes. Company gives one $160 shoe voucher at the local Boot Box store. And one pair of $20 sneakers from Wally, and an ol pair of black converse hightops to cut grass in.. Thats my shoe collection.. I rather have one pair of this guys shoes for date night than 10 pairs of Redwings. Girls go crazy bout a sharp dressed man.

[@CarlMurawski]

I've gotta say that having one truly great pair of boots is an incredible feeling. Something I think everyone should experience at least once in their life.

[@philcoletta3062]

Im from Erie, Were almost neighbors! I just ordered a pair of Nicks Boots and cant wait to get them.

[@stablestoic1491]

@@philcoletta3062 my brother works as a machinist in Erie.

[@aztlanahauc]

The Nail Shank 2 in black coal and the Eight ball boots are on my I can only wish list. Hopefully I can swing at least a pair of one of them.

[@shaunroberts9361]

Outstanding.

[@magnasquids7864]

$1000-$2000 is more than the average boot, but it's not ridiculous. I think it can be worth it. People pay that much for watches or suits. I'm sure they're great boots. Most of the interview seems like they're overthinking things.

[@mohammedtrachen1998]

I was so lucky to find a used Kreosote Boots in very good condition for only $20.

[@1mooseman]

This is exactly the process I go through when writing a song.

[@JJ-zr6fu]

Can he sell shirts? The Kreosote name and Raven look so good.

[@CarlMurawski]

I know! That logo is badass, so hopefully he does.

[@devissaputra469]

@@CarlMurawski HI Carl, could you ask Gabbard, what shirt he is wearing in this interview. Looks rad!

[@bassheadlife492]

I'm going to be Kreosote's 1st client in their 20s

[@baberoot1998]

Best thing about his boots...is the way he says and pronounces, "boots". Like a Valley Girl, who says, "spoon". Awesome.

[@swordfish1120]

Kreosote boots look really nice. The price appears to be justified in the fact that you are buying a totally handmade boot from a craftsman. Actually IMO for as much work that goes into his boots they should average about $2500. However, the wait is the downside. I'm looking for a very nice 7"-8" high boot that I can wear for all casual outings, but waiting almost two years is a no go for me. I need something built within 6 months. I work in either a pair of Nicks or White's boots everyday and while both are great work boots they are a too overbuilt to wear out casually. I have not bought a pair of the dress line of Nicks or White's, but I think I'm going to buy one of their pair to suit my needs. For me it all comes down to fit, construction, long term daily comfort and the general aesthetic of the boot.

[@christopherblack8301]

This dude looks and talks like Matthew McConaughey. I just can't get over the resemblance.

[@CarlMurawski]

Hahaha it never occurred to me until you mentioned that!

[@heyltjerose]

Sick product!

[@darrenwall5439]

Great interview Carl, very interesting nice one💚

[@CarlMurawski]

Thanks so much!

[@craigmccall7450]

Similar to Fasthouse... Motocross riding gear. Awesome!

[@tuaesam]

What chair is that you are sitting in, and if you don’t mind sharing where it came from?

[@michaelbegin2945]

What an incredibl person.

[@seanmccarthy6877]

Super video! I applauded for $10.00 👏👏👏

[@CarlMurawski]

Thank you sir!!!

[@Vinniev007]

After purchasing is there any options for repairs down the road ?

[@CrispyFrenFry]

I would love to get a pair of Kreosote engineer boots but that price tag is incredibly irresponsible for me to spend at once. If I could make two to three payments throughout the waiting period i could certainly do it but idk that this is even possible. Great video.

[@CarlMurawski]

It’s worth asking!

[@tk4329]

This is just mastery. That is how most of the things have to be made. Quality ,hand build, original, high quality materials, hard work, bespoke, ....There you put your money every time Regardless if you make Knifes, boots , clothes, .....whatever . This is craftsman art. Those people have to be stimulated not the chinese mass production crap profit making machine

[@denalisrazor8142]

Most inspiring video on KZbin

[@CarlMurawski]

Wow, thanks!!! It was a lot of fun to make.

[@lukelarsson]

Good stuff!

[@JesterJames22]

I know I'm late, and I love your videos too. But Carl, who's grandma had to die for you to rock that sweater? ;)

[@bobbob8387]

I didn't know Mickey Rourke took up boot making.

[@thewizardsofthezoo5376]

Seriously this community is resuscitating the beauty of handcrafted things, hopefully we are going back into a place where quality will count more than quantity. Also because our landfills are full of cheap Chinese stuff.

[@blythg1394]

If it takes him 60+ hours to make a boot, that’s roughly 35 boots a year. Even at $2000, that’s only 70k a year and he had to probably buy $25000 in materials. What am I missing?

[@discoverspam1]

Carl, I enjoy your videos but I believe your strength and perhaps your calling is as an advocate for the trades similar to Mike Rowe who’s a proponent for careers in the trades. I believe there are many men and women out there who are trying to figure out their future and need a resource for information and guidance in this area. This is perfect role for you. Just a thought.

[@CarlMurawski]

I absolutely plan on covering the trades much more. Mike Rowe is a personal hero of mine for this very reason, and I think he and Jesse James have done a lot for workers everywhere

[@Struthio_Camelus]

I'll check in after I hit the lottery, thanks.

[@CarlMurawski]

Please do. I need a loan

[@Struthio_Camelus]

@@CarlMurawski [grin] I believe it. Does Gabbard take Visa?

[@larslevinberget9558]

Mr Kreosote

[@lisakemper2]

I promised my BF that if he folded all the laundry I would get him a pair of these boots. I hate folding clothes. How would I go about getting those green ones that you showed a picture of on your channel? Any response would be great, he has wanted a pair for a long time. These boots are he ever talks about .

[@CarlMurawski]

I'll take that deal any day! The best thing to do is go on Kreosote.com and pick the model you like.

[@lisakemper2]

@@CarlMurawski thank you.

[@Smokey66s]

Ordered a pair of Role Club Underdogs (Brian the boot maker) 15 months ago and counting. Enjoyed this conversation. I noticed on the “Kreosote” website there are 1600$ off the shelf “sized” boots, price for measured to fit? But I guess if you are asking for prices from this craftsman you shouldn’t be asking?

[@CarlMurawski]

Hahaha like a restaurant menu without prices? Maybe so. I think the price you're looking at is the custom sized boots without any crazy alterations.

[@drhientran]

Waiting for my underdogs too 3 yrs wait list

[@Smokey66s]

@@drhientran I was given 12 month build date 15 months ago, Brian must be very busy.

[@drhientran]

@@Smokey66s guess you got lucky. ordered sept 2020 n was given march 2023 date.

[@Smokey66s]

@@drhientran he might be spending too much time on 57 pick up .

[@stevie9361]

If they are so spiritual then why they around 2500 bucks?

[@holdthatblaow]

I want to contact this guy. How can I do that without ig?

[@CarlMurawski]

I think his Email address is on his website, I've linked it in the description

[@sdlstr91]

And I thought Thursday boots was aspirational 😅

[@CarlMurawski]

Yeah man, it's crazy how fast the prices can climb. Almost like with cars, there are a ton at the $20K-$50K range, and then you get into the $100K, but it quickly spikes up to $300K for Bently and Rolls Royce with the level of handmade components.

[@georgesimeone6292]

Why the name Kreosote as it applies to footwear? Isn't it the substance they put on telephone poles to preserve them?

[@CarlMurawski]

Close! That’s creosote

[@georgesimeone6292]

@@CarlMurawski so what is the meaning?

[@michaeld2662]

Sorry. I don’t care if they’re made of platinum, I’m not spending $1400-$1800 on a pair of boots. No way, no how. I wish him well though. ‘A fool and his money are soon parted’, don’t remember who said it but it seems appropriate. Also, I wouldn’t spend $5k on a custom 1911 either, much as I love them.

[@amiablelampamiablelamp2245]

When you see the work and quality that go into these shoes it becomes worth it. For me at least

[@taylorlibby7642]

I'm not an artist. I actually work for a living. I'm an artisan.

[@hunterhaon4265]

I think carl forgot what blue collar is about

[@StolenAlias]

Idk if someone who has done blue collar work for as long as he has can forget what it’s about, I think, he just knows what quality is.

[@hunterhaon4265]

@@StolenAlias I can get quality for under 1,400 dollars he's just turn into an elitist after the youtube money

[@StolenAlias]

@@hunterhaon4265 whatever you say brother 😂

[@hunterhaon4265]

@@StolenAlias if you watch him long enough he went from inexpensive good quality to over the top price for the same thing makes no sense

[@hunterhaon4265]

@@ruggedlifestyle552 sorry guy I got a kid I'm not paying 1,400 on hipster boots

[@chusamusic1409]

They look great but geez at the ego..

[@billy1503]

This guy is an absolute loony toon