Carna4 Dog Food Review

[@GardeningGroomer]

Thank you, Glenn, for all you are doing to help get the truth out to everyone! And same to DocRea! The majority of my 4 little dogs’ diets is hills. Bloodwork looks great, all looks super! They do get bites of fresh food here and there, but more like as treats. Happy that everyone’s health is perfectly on track here, it’s a relief not having any more urinary or digestive issues! Looking forward to your next video!

[@Dqb_526]

Just found your channel and I love all the detailed and manner of telling us the information!

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

I'm glad you're finding the information helpful! Welcome !

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

22:23 - if you're worried about your lack of academic credentials, you can always link to Small Annimal Clinical Nutrition in the video description. The NRC book is free for anyone to read as well. I've linked to ACVN, CAVN and ECVCN in the disclaimers about Zarya eating raw because I don't want to be responsible for her breeders decision to feed a Romanian folklore husbandry belief

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

"Christmas Dinner (CW: raw feeding)", Zarya the Laika Extras. You can see it in the video description of that. Also in the description of playlist "Big Country Raw".

[@Jay_dee915]

Just a couple of weeks I subscribed to DocReas channel and I have learned so much, now that I watch other people that do reviews and I just see how they just speak of things they believe. DocRea spoke about you on a video and I needed to subscribe as well💪🏽This video give a lot of knowledge. Thank you 🙏🏽

[@TJ-kz1ul]

So thankful I found you and Dr Rae---you are both the best!!

[@Shnd25]

Amazing breakdown! I'm so glad I found this channel!

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@Shnd25 happy you’re here. We call ourselves the Nutrition Mission!

[@Shnd25]

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy love it! It's because of you and your information that I switched my dog who is a little overweight to hills metabolic diet! So thank you and maybe you could review it. No biggie if you can't! But thank you for the information you out out there and the education for pet owners!

[@AnimalDocRea]

Of course you can highlight my wonderful content😂

[@rpetty]

Popping over to watch your channel next

[@Jay_dee915]

I couldn’t remember his channel and it just popped up While watching KZbin 😂

[@rachelg5986]

I just started using Carne 4 Venison for my Pitsky who constantly sucks, licks and chews on bottom of her feet. Does that sound like an allergy? Is venison a good meat for allergies?

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

It does sound like allergies. Well, protein is usually the allergen and finding a protein your dog hasn't been exposed to is a good test. But it takes about 8 to 12 weeks and they can't have any other proteins....very difficult to do. Beef, Chicken, Lamb are getting to be the most common meat allergens.

[@DannyAubreyKeough]

I was looking at Carna4 and Sunday for Dogs. Could you share what you recommend then for puppies then adults from your research?

[@AshleyKarys]

I find this so interesting. I don’t have a doggie but it’s very important to learn what excess nutrients do to the kidneys. Dr. Rea used the analogy of hard water. And she’s right. Excess minerals is very hard on the kidneys.

[@1800llamas]

Hey there! I was wondering if it is a good idea to do mixed feeding. It’s the same product essentially, pro plan puppy small breed dry and pro plan puppy canned split evenly. Is there any harm in mixing forms?

[@StephanieStoudt-uv8nv]

From what I understand reading and listening to board certified veterinary nutritionists, you should not mix different brands. Each brand is formulated with amount of nutrients to meet optimal standards. But each brand is formulated differently. If you want to mix, mix same formula, same brand wet and dry

[@keller8840]

I’m concerned about the glyphosate level in corn, corn gluten meal, or anything corn? It’s my understanding that corn is 100% GMO and has been completely corrupted by Monsanto.

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@keller8840 I can’t argue with that, my friend. I do believe that is a valid concern. Obviously I have no more info than you. I can only imagine what RFK is going to dig up concerning g our food supply.

[@GardeningGroomer]

Thank you for continuing to teach us! I have just learned about sodium metahexaphosphate in foods like Eukanuba for good dental health .I like what I’m hearing from others about how the teeth stay much cleaner as I do struggle with dental health my little dogs despite a water additive and brushing several times a week. Also how does Eukanuba stack up, let’s say the small breed adult, to Hills Small/Mini adult?

[@saral6978]

I found your channel the other day. I have been one of those that believe Hills, RC, Purina, etc, are like feeding your pets food equivalent to junk food. I'm starting to rethink is. Im going to overlook the ingredients and rather review the nutrient analysis and will be testing Hills Perfect Weight for small breeds on my Chi for starters. He needs to lose probaly 2lbs. What's interesting is that Hills provides all the nutrient right on the bag, but all these other brands it really takes digging to find all the information, which is suspect. Plus, you are right there is so many marketing gimmicks to get people to buy the product. I also have a GSD who has struggled with food allergies for years. He was on RC HP for several years and thrived on that. I now have him on Merrick Raw Coated Chicken and he does great on that but I dont know the entire nutrient profile and now trying to find out. I am probably going to change him over to a Hills Senior formula, or if necessary, their prescription HP if necessary. The Merrick one is the only non-RX food I've been able to feed him. He reacts to almost everything else if fed more than a couple weeks. This is all very interesting...Everyone IS so focused on ingredients and not the nutrients provided and i just assumed if the ingredients were good so wete the nutrients. I think ultimately the proof is in the results, both healthy weight, muscle mass, and bloodwork. I'm so curious how my Chi will do and then next my GSD. Thank you for your content!

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

Sarah, thanks for the comments! Welcome to the Nutrition Mission! My ZuZu has done really well on the Perfect Weight and Joint. So why did you come off the RC HP if it worked so well? Hills ZD is very similar. Hills has a diet for environmental allergies called Derm Complete. I’ve seen all of them work well, though none 100%

[@saral6978]

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy To be honest, it was because I felt RC had terrible ingredients and felt it wouldn't be good for him long term. Just swept up in the "good ingredients" , natural and fresh food craze. I recently tried some of the dehydrated food from Honest Kitchen thinking it would work and was really healthy. I was determined to get him off kibble, even looking at Farmer's Dog, Just Food for Dogs, etc. Unfortunately, the HK set off a terrible bout of itching and hotspots after a couple of weeks of feedings, plus yeasty and inflamed ears. 😔. He's finally on the mend getting rid of everything and back on Merricks for now. I probably should just leave him on what works, but I still may consider trying Hills 7+ in the near future. Glad to hear ZuZu is doing well on Perfect Weight plus Joint! Hopefully my Benny does too!! 🙂

[@willc0805]

Thanks for the educational videos and appreciate you shedding some light on the topic of appropriate pet nutrition. I’m a little confused though, because you replied to one of the other comments on this video that Square Pet was a good brand, both ingredient and nutrition wise, however I went to their website and the nutrient profiles for many of their formulations is comparable to Carna4 - suitable for all life stages from puppy through adult, with high protein, calcium, phosphorus levels, etc. and the ingredient list is similar to dozens of other pet food brands out there. So can you elaborate what we should be looking for in a quality food to give our dogs? It seems counter intuitive that we shouldn’t be as concerned as with what the actual ingredients are in the food so long as the nutrient profile is within spec. Thank You!

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@willc0805 great point! There are many brands that have both excellent diets and also All Life Stage foods, so you have to be diligent like you are. The specific nutrients of each diet matter.

[@TenisAlab]

Can u please review Northwest Naturals

[@rmkohlman]

What confuses me is that every farm dog I owned and my parents owned (past 80 years plus) has been fed table scraps, pig feed (pig slop), butcher scrapes, etc, and they all lived over 20 years. Yet nowadays, it's all science-based, and dogs have not lived for the past 15 years. Mom's pet as a child lived 23 years; my dad's dogs lived 24 years, and the dog I had as a child lived 20 years. But everybody fed from kibble never lasted more than 15; most 10-12. This stuff seems too scientifically broken down. Not trying to be negative doesn't line up with my experience. All dogs that lived long were mutts; all purebred didn't live as long too.

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@rmkohlman I think your last comment on mutts is true. Genetics is much more crucial than anything else and mixing the gene pool is a healthy thing. Not any real data on my part but most vets would say dogs and cats are living longer but it’s all anecdotal. One could argue humans in previous generations were stronger. Kids, pets and adults in this modern age may live longer but only due to meds. Kind of alarming.

[@Klaatu_22]

Glenn, I was advised 30 years ago that you should feed your dog all they can consume in 20 minutes (adding or taking away) once a day. With the exception of one GSD that fell to a hemangio sarcoma at the age of 9, my other 4 GSDs lived past the age of 12. Your thoughts on this feeding schedule?

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

Just_Klaatu, I’m really no expert on feeding practices. Each animal is a bit different. The important thing is that you are feeding in a way that maintains a lean body condition. My two small dogs are finicky while all the big dogs I had ate anything gratefully. Some self monitor while others would eat the whole bag!

[@dianamaheux5503]

Have you done a review on Smack dog food? Its a Canadian brand

[@paragon4everxo]

I'm curious, as to why there is a rise in all these kindney, diabetes, cancer, diseases etc... in our pets aren't due to years of consuming all pet foods that have the "accepted nutritional values", most of which would take years to manefest & diagnose. I understand that there are no clinical trials on these new trends of "no grains, air dried, freeze dried raw, and raw feeding" most of which focuses on higher protein, minimally processed products but my point is are our pets are getting sick from years of consuming traditional name brand dog foods which have been on the market way prior to the new trends I mentioned above. Many of which have only hit the market for a few years. Also, does anyone have current scientific data of pets health consuming these new trend dog foods?

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

Dogs are living longer due to better access to veterinary care, better nutrition and leash laws. The average lifespan of a dog in the 1960s and 1970s was 8 years before leash laws were introduced.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

Pedigreed dogs are seeing a rise in cancers and autoimmune diseases because of closed studbooks. Cause of this is lack of genetic diversity in the MHC complex and the dog leukocyte antigen (DLA). Average inbreeding co-efficient inn a breed is 25%. Most livestock are bred with an open studbook.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

Also, a lot of dog food packaging are lined with forever chemicals such as PFAS, and raw food were found with contaminants like lead. You have zero control over these because everyone in the food industry is trying to cut corners

[@sarahwheeler52]

@@ZaryaTheLaika I don’t know what kind of breeders you know, but that is also not true, we have extended lives of many breeds due to selective breeding. We don’t like to see a breeding done with a co efficiency of over 19% typically, but in my breed we average anywhere from 2%-15% which is very acceptable and our dogs don’t come down with cancer or kidney issue. A friend of mine who is also a reputable breeder has a dog that just came down with some liver issues at 18 years old, which is to be expected at such an old age. I have a 20 year old in my house with no cancer and no kidney issue….. a 15 year old with no cancer or kidney issue.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

@@sarahwheeler52 Your position is not backed by any insurance company, including Agria which is the largest insurance provider in Sweden and Finland, which have much higher pedigreed dog ownership compared to US and Canada.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

16:19 - most of the breed-specific formulations is because pedigreed dog breeders really messed up with their dogs' oral anatomy... like pugs definitely need those more digestible kibbles

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

@@sarahwheeler52 Have you read Royal Canin's open-access papers on why they have special formulations for small breed dogs? It's weird you're offended by Royal Canin's marketing, especially since they're one of the biggest sponsors of pedigreed dog clubs. I was correcting Rachael's and Judy's misunderstanding of Royal Canin's R&D. The two of them think RC's products are nonsense, when they're not nonsense.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

@@sarahwheeler52 From FCI-Standard N° 208 "Jaws / Teeth: Wide, slightly undershot or level (pincer bite, edge to edge)". Yet you're upset dog food manufacturers have breed-specific kibbles for Shih Tzu which Rachael Fusaro and Judy Morgan ridicule in their anti-evidence based research interview Glenn clipped.

[@thoroughbredbullterriers9039]

One of the things I agree with you on even tho we dont feed kibble is you have to use supplements. For those out there who want to start feeding a raw diet get off Google and buy an NRC book and do your research. You can use whole foods but you must SUPPLEMENT

[@margaretgarnys1497]

Acording to raw food calculator puppy needs around 70% of meat muscle and around 15% meaty bones versus adult dog who needs 80% of muscle meat and 10% meaty bones. So from the ratio we see that amount of protein is higher in adult dog than puppy. The difference is in the amount they eat. Puppy needs from 4% - 10% of their body weight depending of their age and adult dog needs 2-3% of their body weight a day so I do agree that amount of food they eat is important, because if puppies eat more that adult dogs they are getting more nutrients ( f.e. more protein) in their food.

[@hazehaze0]

Ty, I used to mix a bit of carnation 4 with farmina, I am going to stop buying it because I pay $200 for a 20 lbs

[@topg3200]

Studies show 2/3 of apparently "complete" dry dog food (and 94% of complete canned food) sold in the UK today fail to meet the MINIMUM standards set out by the industry (the measure being a dog will get to the end of a 6mth food trial and have normal blood values).

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

well that's horrible stats! it would take a really bad food to affect blood values within 6 months. I thought Europe had stricter rules than the US.

[@Aimee0206]

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuyMy dog experienced nutritional deficiencies whilst being fed a dry food claiming to be complete and balanced with no added synthetics. Her nails were so brittle, they were like confetti. Her dementia got worse as her balance went completely off and she was urinating in the house more. I contacted the company asking for a detailed nutritional breakdown, and it turns out, the food was low in vitamin b12 and threonine according to FEDIAF guidelines. They still stand by the fact that their food is complete and balanced, though. Funny how her symptoms resolved themselves when I switched her food to something *actually* balanced. 🙄

[@crystalpaul1023]

Are you saying this is a great food for dogs? I beleive it to be one of the very best, but a little comfused on your analysis?

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@crystalpaul1023 crystal, sorry if I wasn’t clear but No, this is not a good food. It’s yet another food made by Ingredientists who simply focus on ingredients. This food is puppy food so not optimal for adult or older animals.

[@anka6356]

If you want renal disease for your pet, it's great food.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

13:48 - there was a fantastic documentary from BBC presenter Alice Roberts that if we didn't cook ouur fruits, vegetables and meats, your GI tract would be much more similar to chimpanzees and gorillas. Our GI tract actually shortened because of cooking. Dogs and cats obviously receive the same benefits from food being processed and cooked

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

Series was called "Origins of Us" (2011l. Second episode, "Guts". Dr. Roberts tried to consume the equivalent amount in raw as what's bioavailable in cooked food, and she got full before meeting her daily requirements

[@jimlayhey1965]

what do wolf puppies eat puppy kibble

[@anka6356]

Wolves die young. We're talking about house animals that have artificially prolonged lives because you keep them sheltered, they need the balanced nutrients in foods like Hill's and Hill's Prescription to live long. with a good blend between meat and grain protein. Dogs are not wolves in the wild.

[@JM-zz4ts]

@@anka6356wolves live up to 12-16 years in the wild

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

11:10 - Considering Polynesians fattened their dogs on taro roots (poi), soy isn't the worst thing to feed to a dog. And soy is used a lot more inn Chinese, Japanese and Korean dog food than in US dog food.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

Is this like when Rachel engaged inn spreading anti-Chinese and anti-Japanese propaganda from the 1970s about MSG?

[@anka6356]

What do you mean people don't eat liver. Chicken liver is delicious, but then again, I'm not from the US

[@Jaycv-dq3rg]

Can you review yumwolf beef pot roast dog food

[@sandypolsky5683]

See, this is why I am frustrated when she told me to convert dry to wet when I asked for either of you to please give me the nutritional values of the Nutrisource canned wet Beef & Rice dog food. I am not trained in anything pet food (except the ones I know are bad), and that includes knowing how to convert dry to wet. You, Glenn, told me just to watch her video as she did a review on Nutrisource, but again, it was their dry dog food. Okay, I am not asking again, just stating exactly what you are doing that I am not trained or capable of doing so. So there, lol. I do appreciate what you do for us all though, so thank you for your expertise and honesty.

[@sandypolsky5683]

@@sarahwheeler52 True, but I won't understand what are good numbers and what isn't. Again, I am not trained in dog/cat nutrition and the numbers and values would mean nothing to me. He loves the food, so I just hope the food is as good as he loves it. I'll just keep on giving him this food. It's just that he was so sick when we got him at one year of age, and after two years, I want to make sure he's getting what his health needs.

[@Sue-Roxy]

Also if you ask the pet food companies can you please convert their wet cat foods youre feeding write teh name etc then ask Convert to Dry Matter (DM) then you can use this chart aswell. Get a pen write this down this is the percentages for dry kibble. Per 100g Kibble around 1 cup. Protein- 15-30% Fat - 10-20% Fiber - < 5% Calcium - 50 - 100% Phosphorus - 40 - 80% Sodium - 20 - 40% Chloride - 30 - 60% Vitamin - E - > 400 Vitamin - C - > 100 The % shouldnt go over these amounts especially if you have a senior dog for Calcium & Phosphorus, stay under these % if you have an aging senior dog, you'd be surprise how high some kibbles Calcium & Phosphorus % is 😫.

[@sandypolsky5683]

@@Sue-Roxy Thank you, Sue-Roxy. Since it is wet matter he's getting, I'll ask them for numbers for wet and go from there. Our Vet was of no help; another reason I'm frustrated because those that know how (although I know the Vet didn't know), said they would help and both are too busy, so I'll get it figured out. You're a peach for reaching out and helping, Sue. Thank you, again!

[@AmericanHuskyCash]

The not believing in a different nutrient level for puppy vs management vs senior is CRAZY I am all about quality ingredients as long as nutrition comes first

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@AmericanHuskyCash it’s convenient for food companies!

[@AmericanHuskyCash]

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy just odd, because if thats the case, then make a “premium” line and allow people to pay the higher price for good nutrition and quality ingredients. Just silly.

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@AmericanHuskyCash well a company like Hills does, but uses legit ingredients. Square pet has good nutrients but with attractive ingredients, but the price is pretty crazy. Medicus Vet Diets makes comparable therapeutic foods like Hills, with attractive ingredients, but it’s $40 a lb!

[@AmericanHuskyCash]

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy yeah. I love Hills, but my boy is so allergic to chicken that if he even sees chicken he has a reaction 😆 he seems to have issues with chicken fat or cartilage (which makes no sense, I know… but thats my reality) because of this i have to stay clear of Hills. I thought about trialing that Pollock/insect recipe, but he is doing well on Square pet currently. I am a single guy with a good income so I do not mind the $100 food budget Better than the endless vet visits that we were experiencing for years there.

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@AmericanHuskyCash I’m very impressed with SquarePet. I have had a few people say the new Hills insect diet worked well for their allergic dogs.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

2:33 - youu shouuld probably mention there's no quality control in Canada. CFIA is responsible for ruubber-stamping exports, and a few years ago Canadian companies got caught violating FDA's guidelines for imported foods

[@dennisharvey8435]

body builders love whey protein which is from milk not meat

[@topg3200]

Do solid gold next

[@violetblythe6912]

would you consider covering some cheap brands that are popular but also not WSAVA compliant? Mainly brands owned by J M Smuckers and Post, like Meow Mix and 9Lives for cats, or Ol' Roy, Kibble n Bits, Gravy Train etc for dogs. I think we probably already expect those brands aren't the best, but if they can give you the numbers it would still be interesting to see how they compare.

[@Sue-Roxy]

Look for "Contact Us" for the pet food companies you feed or like send them an email on their Sites scroll down & look for "Contact Us" Write thepet food brands you feed or like & then I ask what is the Calcium%, Phosphorus%, Ash% - their percentages in the brand youre feeding. Please.. If they're a good pet food company then they will reply within 24-48hours.. Glenn has put up the recommened percentages write them down Per 100g Kibble around 1 cup Protein- 15-30% Fat - 10-20% Fiber - < 5% Calcium - 50 - 100% Phosphorus - 40 - 80% Sodium - 20 - 40% Chloride - 30 - 60% Vitamin - E - > 400 Vitamin - C - > 100

[@RK-zh6nh]

This food is great however the price is absolutely ridiculous! $200 for a 20lb bag

[@Lexisdad216]

Feed their kid's? What's the difference???😂

[@S070-g8q]

I am glad you were able to make it through without personal attacks! That wasn't so hard, was it? Good for you!!!

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@S070-g8q I was just mentioning you to someone! It’s been awhile! Yes, I’ve been very nice! Ed even said I’m charming! I’m sure you wouldn’t go that far! What do you think of the actual content lately?

[@S070-g8q]

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Oh really! Did you miss me? LOL. You could be charming, if you took the arrogance down a notch and respected the fact that other people actually use their brains instead of leaving all the thinking to someone else! Your content is just as DOG-matic as usual, lol

[@violetblythe6912]

this food was ridiculously hard! Like rocks!! I had to get a refund because I was worried my pets would literally crack a tooth on it. The pieces did not absorb water easily either. Apparently they sell a "soft" version but I didn't know I needed to order that to not receive rocks.... In my opinion, a pet food hard enough to hurt someone as a projectile should not be sold to anyone. It was so weird.

[@violetblythe6912]

been feeding Hill's exclusively for over a year and my pets have never been healthier.

[@S070-g8q]

The kibbles are not hard as rocks. They absorb water just fine. This comment makes me think you haven't actually tried Canra4.

[@georgedavidson1007]

great stuff mr,i know who i believe,you and doc rea,you gotta keep these vids coming debunking false info thats dangerous for our pets thanks again 👍

[@anka6356]

She was so proud of herself when she said shoe leather has protein. What does that have to do with anything?? Of course it has, it's cow skin..smh

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

she is actually showing her age! Back in the 80s Hills actually had a poster showing shoe leather, crankcase oil, and a few other things that would pass the Guaranteed Analysis on a bag of food. it was Hills way of saying you have to look closer. I suppose though you could use it as an argument that ingredients matter.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

8:25 - Italian wolves are dumpster divers...

[@Lynn-wp4kw]

What are your credentials? She is saying that this brand of dog food will compliment raw diet. Your comments are confusing you’re not for or against or are you just picking it apart? This is one of the best brands of dog foods that you can add to raw .out there

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@Lynn-wp4kw Lynn, much of what she says is philosophical and simply not scientifically accurate. The actual nutrient levels are excessive for adult/senior dogs because it is an All Life Stage food. If you’re feeding raw and know the nutrients you’re delivering are optimal than why add more nutrients by adding this food? I am only looking for optimal nutrients to help produce optimal health. I was a veterinary rep for Hills for 34 years, trained by top board certified nutritionists to train vets and their teams.

[@Lynn-wp4kw]

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy you were a hills rep. Hills is garbage. Right up there with royal & purina Good day

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@Lynn-wp4kw wow Lynn, I’ve never heard that before!😉

[@edschulhof6303]

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Oh, sure you have! LOL

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@edschulhof6303 lol!

[@MatoKrajniak]

All i needed to hear was "told by Hills" Hills its utter garbage food and what youre saying its completely false. Plantbased protein isnt the same as animal based protein. You're wrong on so many levels.

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@MatoKrajniak well Mayo, starting with Hills diets being garbage puts you at a disadvantage in any dialogue. Obviously it’s not. Plant proteins provide amino acids, meat protein provides amino acids. The combination of those (including egg) can be used to deliver optimal amino acids. That’s simply a fact. You are a devout Ingredientist, listening to too many other Ingredientists. My videos will introduce you to nutrition. Btw, you aren’t judging me. You’re judging the top board certified nutritionists in the country.