CARNIVORE DOCTOR QUITS THE CARNIVORE DIET? - Dr. Westman Reacts

[@paulinemurray2365]

I am an 84 year old woman and have been eating the carnivore diet for almost 4 years. After listening to Dr. Salandino, I decided to try adding just a little bit of carbs to my diet because, I was having leg cramps and I read somewhere where dates had a lot of minerals and vitamins in them. I decided to try to date a day. Almost immediately I started getting those those little kind of needle pains in my joints. So I stopped eating dates and agai, it was immediate, all those little pains went away. So I have gone back to my strict carnivore and I have never in my life been healthier. I have no health issues that I am aware of.

[@mikecayen8580]

Good for you for taking this on AT 80 years old. Amazing. Enjoy your pain free golden years, beautifully clear minded, and may there be MANY many more. Literally the best decision you could make for your life :)

[@bcarnivore]

I’m 74 3 months carnivore and still problems with oxylate in my fingers, eyes I was 12 years Vegan with little fish. Also iron was very low. I stay carnivore 🥩

[@lightwarrior432]

GREAT!!! We’ve been CARNIVORE for 6 months with AMAZING results. This “Doctor”, AND PAUL, are not telling the truth about carbs. #carbsarekillers PERIOD.

[@howiecarnivore]

Dr. Berry recommends adding Daily Minerals to your water. I don't even taste it in my water anymore and no more cramps.

[@nataliegist2014]

I take a multi mineral just in case the meat isn’t of the greatest quality.

[@gstlynx]

Dr. Saladino's exercise routine is incomprehensibly intense for most people. What he eats doesn't apply to the average sedentary weight loss chaser.

[@62Sketch]

I've thought the same thing. He surfs every day which is a huge energy burner, then he trains in a number of other ways every day on top of it.

[@MrRabiddogg]

makes sense. back in the 50s when nearly everyone did physical labor 40 hours a week we ate meat and potatoes but were in shape. The people who sit at a desk all day save for maybe 2 hours a day working out dont need as many carbs. The only day I even consider eating more carbs is the long bike ride day. I figure 3 hours of high level cardio (for me) its ok on that day

[@blaze1148]

By far the best way to lose weight especially if you are sedentary is to _fast_ .

[@ladycactus110]

Also his lifestyle is not doable unless you live in a warm sunny place near the sea and have no familial responsibilities. I dare him to switch places with a mother of three in a northern city with a job and do his grounding and surfing and exercise 😂! But the bibliography in his book is pretty good.

[@mindingmybusiness6309]

Exactly

[@RiceOfTheThirdWorld]

I am Asian. Born and raised Filipino. I grew up in carbs (rice). I am 7 years in carnivore diet. I am still alive, healthy and looking young at 42😊

[@1Hope4All]

I am Mexican so grew up on rice, beans, tortillas, etc. 😋 At least my tortillas were organic nonGMO. 😁 Now I enjoy beef, steak, eggs, beef, butter, steak, beef, some bacon, beef, butter, steak, and eggs. Oh, and beef too. Did I say steak? 😋

[@gingermonroe4153]

Glad u all have lots of dough t support ur feeding habits$$

[@dennislovesbass]

Filipinos always look young at 42😜

[@Maniac_Sniper]

I eat anything, I'm 52 and I'm great

[@CTG2500]

What is your VLDL/ LDL numbers?

[@ChryscottPeters]

Doctor Westman, you are a true gentlemen. Who sees such reason in the space of health. Thank you for putting out these videos to help all people eat the proper human diet.

[@buckmurdock2500]

don't you mean putting out videos that confirm what you want to hear?

[@pelleoh]

​@@buckmurdock2500 Huh how about you stay at channels that confirm what YOU want to hear instead of seek up channels that don't.

[@BestLifeMD]

@@pelleohbecause that's confirmation bias and doesn't lead to growth.

[@ernesthader1109]

@@BestLifeMD , imo, watching these videos counter confirmation bias as the conventional wisdom is quite the opposite of these videos.

[@annebeck2208]

Thx for the trolling!!! @@buckmurdock2500

[@grunklebob9009]

Dr Salidino in a nutshell: After I conned you all into buying my book, I took my millions to the Carribean where I now surf 6 hours a day and work out another 3-4 hours. I need to eat 300 grams of carbs or my electrolytes will tank. I am the ONLY human with this condition. Sure bud, thanks for the memories, glad I wasn't one of the suckers that bought your book.

[@AndreAngelantoni]

His book is likely correct. Not all of us can exercise as much as he does. That’s why he is getting away with 300g of carbs. I would never get away with it.

[@Snowsea-gs4wu]

I got his book, didn’t like it so I returned it. A few months ago got it again in error and I have now returned it again because he knows better LOL! Although I mostly agree with Andre that the book is likely correct but I didn’t like it anyway.

[@andredaedone7732]

Nutjob more like it😂.

[@andredaedone7732]

​@@AndreAngelantoniI am 68 and workout 2 to 3 hours a day , 6 days. When you are older it is especially important to stay off carbs. He lost a lot of muscle mass and he does not look healthy. Nutcase.

[@laurasc84366]

And honestly, how will all that fruit affect his liver, we shall see.

[@Dwl7842]

In my personal experience, I started carnivore in March at 235lbs, did strict carnivore with a little cheese for 4-5 months and lost 35lbs. My numbers improved a lot, my inflammation was completely gone and I was really getting healthy. I started exercising at that point and started cramping. I should have added more electrolytes to my diet but instead I started eating fruit because of Paul’s ideas. It’s a slippery slope because now by body is craving carbs and sugars and it’s been a little difficult to do full carnivore again. I’m really trying to get back to carnivore or even just Keto at this point. Fruit and honey did not do me any good. Thank you and I appreciate what you do for us Dr. Westman!

[@meaghankelly3887]

Don't give up !!!!! . That slippery slope is a killer....what helps me is to focus on consequences of the inflammation.......PAIN and FATIGUE. ❣️ Don't give up !!!!🥰

[@Dwl7842]

@@meaghankelly3887 thank you! That is my main focus to keep going. I know I will do it, I just need to push past that craving 👊

[@susans7091]

Forget Saladino - go back to Carnivore!

[@Dwl7842]

@@susans7091 that’s for sure!

[@henriksvensson2836]

I changed from carnivore/keto to eating that way the first 5-6hours of the day, then i add my carb meals after these hours. Morning coffee with butter and cream, then eggs and butter, cream cheese. Then i eat potatoes with beef etc. Lost some weight doing this. Also supplement vitamin d3 5,000-10,000 iU per day.

[@bitsyketo5726]

Dr. Westman you are a welcome voice of reason. Your calm deameanor says a lot and youe experience treating patients for many years speaks volumes. Thanks for a great analysis!

[@cookshackcuisinista]

And he is the same man in person as he presents here on the internet! No ego in Dr W.🎉❤

[@annebeck2208]

Lovely thanks!!! @@cookshackcuisinista

[@DrTonyHampton]

Can’t say enough about the brilliance of Dr. Westman

[@gavinschneider7420]

I agree and and also cant say enough about yours. Docs like you are truly saving lives.

[@DrTonyHampton]

@@gavinschneider7420Thanks, Gavin

[@marnasletten3988]

Hi Dr. Hampton.

[@DrTonyHampton]

@@marnasletten3988Hi!

[@zan6585]

I really needed to hear this, tried his diet and it literally made me feel so much worse, not to mention my symptoms returned (inflammation, bad memory, mood swings, bad vision, bad focus, etc.)

[@padraigharrington1228]

What carbs did you try.

[@zan6585]

honey, mango, pineapple, apple, banana, avacado, dairy, plain white rice, sweet potato, kiwi, some other fruits probably. Nothing worked, anything that broke me out of ketosis was seemingly bad for me. My inflammation, acne, bad memory, poor focus, etc. it would all come back if I ate enough of any of those things. Some were definitely tolerated better than others, but if I ate too much of any of them, eventually I'd hit a wall and they'd start having adverse effects. I tolerated A2 dairy the best out of everything.@@padraigharrington1228

[@sweetbeep]

You mean you tried carnivore or you added carbs?

[@ClintGilliam]

I think there are several issues with Saladino: First, his lifestyle is very active, more than most people. He is not a model for nearly anyone. Second, his issues were never metabolic issues, so he doesn't have to deal with that broken system, like many of us in this space. Finally, although he is a doctor, I haven't seen that he has significant clinical experience in managing folks with metabolic issues like T2D, obesity, NAFLD, etc. He would probably change his tune when his patients could no longer improve in his way of eating.

[@71oldboy]

Perfect analysis

[@karenlackey6650]

I've only been looking into ketovore/carnivore a couple months. Watching videos of some of the influencer Doc' ran across him on an episode of The Doctors, they destroyed him. I could tell he wasn't fully convinced about carnivore.

[@Beef_it_to_be_fit]

He is a psychiatrist.

[@litabelaqua]

Spot on

[@artemis6628]

Bang on. Excellent summary.

[@deborahthaler35]

This is why I appreciate Dr Westman. He presents the science. The importance of this cannot be understated. Dr Saladino started out Carnivore, then followed the money. I can't really say to much about Thomas DeLauer. Either. A very well known, long time keto influencer said she overheard Thomas DeLauera at a keto conference say. "Keto is just a fad" Thank You Dr Westman!

[@TwdlD]

Yeah, a 100 year fad. Some people just can't get past the cognitive dissonance to get to the other side and be rational. I'm talking about Saladino and Delauera. It reeks to me of 'financial incentives'.

[@mariad1151]

​@@TwdlDI dk Saladino, but I think he is crystal clear about his thought process in this video. Dr. Peter Attia also switched to low carb vs keto, & he is a health fanatic ..

[@jamesnewmeyer7205]

@@TwdlD I think they both take steroids. You cannot get that big naturally. Trust me I know I worked out for many years with no major muscle gains. Then took steroids and within 6 weeks my muscles were popping. This was back in 2004 and have not used them since.

[@Triniteeluvingurl]

​@@jamesnewmeyer7205lol they do not look unnaturally large at all, esp not saladino. Maybe the other guy a little but doubt it. Don't forget everyone's genetic potential is different, maybe you just got the short stick

[@Trader7535]

​@@TriniteeluvingurlSaladino could be natural, the other guy absolutely not.

[@roadhousepress]

Another anecdotal story: I was on carnivore for 5 years - all digestion problems cleared in months (gastroparesis) - all diabetic ulcer sores healed and no scars within 4 months of Carnivore. No more depression. No craving. High energy and could walk 3 miles in a stretch when previously could only walk 300 steps and was totally breathless and exhausted. I started to look like a human being instead of a bloated huge rounded waddler. If you told me I would ever eat differently I would have laughed. One day I was on a short day hike with my son. When we were done I wanted the experience to last longer. I was so happy to be with him. We stopped as we had many time to get him an ice cream shake. It had not interested me. But out of nowhere I got an ice cream. This would begin a 2 year slide back into certain simple carbs randomly. The rashes began again- a sore opened up eventually - the depression rolled in. I justified or shrugged it off. Cramps returned with a vengeance. Swelling of joints. None of this made me turn things around. I have not forgotten for one day that I need to get back to strict carnivore. I am sharing this because correlation is not causation - my muscles cramped with or without carbs. I have asked many doctors of different disciplines and physical therapists about the cramps/spasms - they all say the same thing “we do not know why people get spasms” - one thing I do know is I have compression on my spine and the weight does not help. I know how to use electrolytes for good health. I just need to apply the actions now. So I am back at the beginning. Let your body tell you. You will know what is right for your body if you stick with the disciplines you choose. And if like me you fall off - get back up and start over.

[@mikab.4041]

You're not alone.. don't give up your journey. I started my Carnivore Style of eating 7 months ago.. always trying new ways to cook different Meats n Limit my carbs makes me feel better. I'm not bloated like before.. n I sleep much better. I also do Intermittent Fasting and change up how often n how long. Lost 64.. 50 to go!👍

[@sweetbeep]

A few carbs here and there cause you so many issues?

[@sweetbeep]

@____________________________51 ..ok thanks. The world is only 6k years old

[@sweetbeep]

@____________________________51 I have educated myself. I heard scientists speak about the erroneous carbon dating practices of other scientists.

[@sweetbeep]

@____________________________51 God made the earth and you know all those "layers" in the earth with the small animal fossils on the bottom? That was from one worldwide catastrophic event: the great flood.

[@donna5847]

Dr Westman, thank you so much for covering this. It’s much appreciated.

[@cassieoz1702]

Having listened to a few of his interviews, his rationale is all based on HIM. He hasnt seen a patient in a long time. He isnt metabolically disordered and has the luxury of exercising many hours each day. His thoughts on this matter clearly dont apply to most of us. At all.

[@harvinderubhi5540]

Similarly, all the studies you read, etc are not applicable to you in entirety. Be happy

[@campersruincod6134]

@@harvinderubhi5540most studies are done on the average person…

[@JackTheStrippa]

It's not based on him...

[@mr.gilbert2790]

You think exercise is a luxury? That’s the saddest thing I’ve heard

[@cassieoz1702]

@@mr.gilbert2790 no, as usual, wilfully misinterpreting what was said. The point was he has MANY HOURS per day to pursue his interest in surfing

[@blaze1148]

The phrase _normal_ has to be treated with extreme caution as for instance a _normal_ American is metabolically unhealthy. Great reasoned reaction again Dr Westman.

[@MFV77]

Hear hear!

[@lauraburgess2734]

Most of us that turn to carnivore or medical keto are metabolically ill long before starting this WOE. Moderation is also something we just can't do, so obstaining is our way of finding "food freedom". Saledino has never had those same struggles and can only see this all through his own experience (understandably). However, to not take into consideration that he has a large following of people that could be severely damaged by following his new advice to reintegrate carbs is self-absorbed and neglegent.

[@purplegirl8036]

Agreed. Its usually the simple carbs that turn off the hormone ghrelin and that’s why you can’t do moderation. After a while of being on the carnivore diet the body and particularly the beta cells will heal and insulin sensitivity increases. Once the body balances out you will want to eat “complex” carbs again. I did. Keto for a year, lost 15 lbs but still felt off then I switched to plant based and lost at least 15 more and felt the most clear. Then I thought that maybe mostly plants and a sprinkle of meat was better. I’m convinced the solution is somewhere between low meat and no meat but our meats are not really clean enough to eat and it’s hard to find fruits and vegetables that aren’t sprayed.

[@lumanliu8457]

Saladino has no care for his followers. You can see he does not have proper Dr training.

[@Jack-jp6ki]

​@user-kc7mu4jp4pthis is what all of these diets are missing. The toxins in our environments. My guide is the closest thing that shows all of this with proven results. It's in my channel description btw. Thank me later.😉

[@Jack-jp6ki]

​@@purplegirl8036yes you are correct. The answer is I'm the middle. We've seen the results in our case study. The case study is from following the guide in my channel's description. I'd love to receive your review and experience from trying it out.😉

[@cherylcastillo7020]

He's sharing an important true life experience which may help people, just like he did in the writing of his book. Your accusations are negative, arrogant, prejudicial and mean.

[@otiskeithwatkins1679]

So basically "it worked for me and I wrote a book and made money. Now I want to write another book so now what I said before is wrong. No facts to go on but trust me, I'm a doctor."

[@bolivianbillionaire1349]

exactly.........he is a little slippery con artist.. an insufferable 'look at me!' clown.........full of crap

[@thegrinch0614]

Yup, yup, yup…summed it up perfectly

[@juliabowman9142]

He's a psychiatrist ​@@thegrinch0614

[@aneecelouaked5307]

he`s not even a medical doctor . lol@@thegrinch0614

[@dyseroll012]

Na, that doesn't sum it up. He was meat only for a while - a long while - and then decided to experiment further by adding fruit as it wasn't working as well as it had. The fruit worked for him so he continued with the fruit. He tried rice and potatoes. It didn't work for him so he didn't continue with the rice and the potatoes. Don't be afraid to change, don't be afraid to experiment, don't be afraid to grow....

[@TheKingdomWeigh]

Dr Westman is stable. His message was truth when I first saw him. I was doing Atkins Induction (which I stayed on), the book Atkins for a New You came out. Dr Westman learned from the best and has always kept his science sound, relevant and up to date with the latest research. Truly Eric is a remarkable doctor who seeks truth.

[@carpediem4413]

Keto saved my life… was overweight 250 lbs w/fatty liver to now 170 lbs and never felt better.

[@peacewithHim]

Thank you for the clarity you bring to this topic. I know from experience, after doing very low carbs coming from vegetables, for about 2 years, that if I overindulge in carbs, or eat high carb fruit, that I retain fluid and feel "sickly" the next day. Everyone is different. My thinking is that as I focus on my metabolic health, and I feel much better. I appreciated the Dr.s Edes broadcast you recently put up. They really helped me to see that I am doing well and can continue to follow this lifestyle.

[@annebeck2208]

When my husband was diagnosed with high blood pressure that just kept going up and up, with one medication after another, I googled! I found Keto, but not really how to do it. We tried internet Keto, not working very well, but he was better. Then we tried take this, eat that Keto and it was expensive and hard to follow if the mail didn't arrive on time. I also wasn't getting better on the take this, eat that and my husband was still on 2 blood pressure meds. Then I got your inexpensive book (compared to Dr. visits) and found that it was really easy to follow and food was easy to get. 6 months later, my husband is off 1 med and down to the lowest dose on the other, I am finally feeling better! I tried the keto carbs (our first try) and it did nothing more than help us transition. As we went lower and lower on carbs, the better and better we felt! I feel sorry for him, but having tried every way of eating, keto is the way to go!

[@mariad1151]

Tim Noakes is a controversial figure. Tried in S Africa for telling a mother to wean her baby on low carb, high fat foods. There's more of course, so be careful lieblings. (You'll know Akins had to testify before Congress for his diet & was obese upon his death, right?

[@KarenG.-qs7wc]

Which book did you buy please?

[@btudrus]

@@mariad1151 "Tim Noakes is a controversial figure. " LOL. No. Tim Noakes was attacked by vegan radicals. That's all. No controversy really...

[@mariad1151]

@@btudrus Everyone is entitled to interpret what Noakes did according to their own standards. He was reported, perhaps rightly, by a nutritionist--a credible source.

[@btudrus]

@@mariad1151 "by a nutritionist--a credible source." LOLOLOLOL....

[@danieljackson-woods6225]

I became insulin resistant on a plant based diet . 30days on carnivore and I've never felt better I've gained more muscle and lost more body fat than I ever did on a plant based diet. And I work out 6 days a week doing heavy lifting and cardio on rest days.

[@Mxcarnivoro]

Wow. You pretty much dissected and killed any argument he had like a gentleman, its like if I am watching Professor Bart Kay with no cursing lol. Great video. Paul always dodges hard questions or throws in personal anecdotes when he is cornered. Anyone with a brain can put 2+2. His following wasn't enough and he started Heart and soil supplements. He included carbohydrates in his diet and his following grew exponentially. He is actually pretty smart financially speaking. Sad thing is, he is irresponsible since most of the world is obese and his following will likely be obese, pre diabetic, glucose addicts people who are looking for reassurance they can keep on eating sugar.

[@AmericanRoads]

Bart Kay's brilliant analysis/rebuttal is greatly tarnished by his style of delivery. His constant repetition of, "NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE! YOU ALREADY SAID THAT!!" My gosh, it just got old really fast. Using Bart's own terminology, there is too much "noise to signal ratio".

[@chuckleezodiac24]

@@AmericanRoads Bart Kay? can't stand him. he might have some great info but his "persona" is excreble.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

​@@chuckleezodiac24He is mentally unstable IMO

[@Cube_Ernator1077]

@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 Actually, Prof Bart Kay is 'on the spectrum'-he's a high functioning Autistic. He has been quite open about this, so he's NOT "mentally unstable"!

[@PeaceIsJesusChrist]

@@AmericanRoads Bart Kay is so disrespectful. I don’t care what he has to say about anything.

[@patriciapalmer3815]

I appreciate your calm demeanor and common sense approach to explaining sometimes confusing nutritional advice.

[@xavierrodriguez2211]

Big Pharma robot 😅

[@elizabethpearce4767]

Dr Ben Bikman has a lecture in which he talks about the 'Plagues of Prosperity' where he addresses what is talked about here. Ancestrally, yes, we celebrated the carbs because they were rare and seasonal, and eating them helped us prepare for the winter season of lack. Having that plenty year round for years on end overloads and breaks our systems because we are naturally meant to go along with the seasons. And once our system is 'broken' we need to reset it by limiting those things that were naturally scarce. (Eating low carb in other words) People who are metabolically healthy can tolerate more carbs, but if they use that as an excuse to eat the 'SAD' diet, they will find themselves becoming not so metabolically healthy.

[@moiragoldsmith7052]

Dr Bikman talks a lot of sense. I also like the 'Low Carb down under' and 'High Intensity Health' channels.

[@aleksandrazimpel8097]

❤

[@SuperZimpatico]

I’m not an expert, but I can assure everybody that, carnivore, keto and intermittent fasting are the best. The truth always triumph.

[@ianstuart5660]

Agreed!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

keto with green veggies and healthy fat are best. Fasting did not work for me.

[@halburke9115]

You are not an expert, yet you can assure us that…….are the best. Really??

[@SuperZimpatico]

@@halburke9115 well try for yourself and see the results, I’ve seen this wonderful result in most people and have a look at their comments

[@shawnsmith424]

Ok go have buckets of frutose ​@halburke9115

[@jimrutherford2773]

Saladino was a partial carnivore. Not a true carnivore. He ate honey and fruit too before he quit being a carnivore. He's such an active guy and young he can still remain fairly healthy eating a high amount of healthy carbs. I just think when all said and done, he missed many of the foods he used to eat, and just made a decision to reintroduce carbs into his diet.

[@Alex-ml3zx]

He’s also a quack. Everything he does is for views and money, not a real doctor.

[@corinnegaleria4387]

Hiney hahah seems true

[@powerguiller]

Healthy carbs?😂

[@AKWarior]

@@powerguiller meaning whole foods as opposed to refined.

[@jimrutherford2773]

@@powerguiller healthy carbs meaning fruit, nuts, etc, not donuts or sodas.

[@parapoliticos52]

Ps The only way primitive human groups would eat 300 grams of honey each, is if they found 2-3 hives every day

[@betseyspencer5370]

When he reported how much honey the indigenous tribe was eating when he visited them I knew he was lying. As a beekeeper I said NO WAY!

[@iss8504]

​@@betseyspencer5370i am a beekeeper too. I also thought he was lying.

[@mariad1151]

Hadza 20% diet honey. They follow birds that seek it. 50% diet is carbs. Anthropologist Dr. Herman Pontzer wrote about them if you have a mind to read up on it. Pontza is out of Duke like Westman, I believe.

[@thebodyclockco]

The availability of honey depends on flowers. It's seasonal. Also, they are completely grounded and living in a non toxic environment. We know that EMF and Blue Light from screens raises blood glucose independent of food intake. Hence the problem. Also, we can't assume the hadza diet is optimal for humans anyway. It's good enough for them to be absent of chronic disease but that could be environmental not food based.

[@mariad1151]

Hazda are mobile and move every 4-6 weeks. There are several species of bees and honey is available most of the year. Honey is most plentiful in the rainy season from Nov to June. (Journal of Human Evolution, vol 71, pgs 119-128)

[@JYAN2852]

It's scientifically proven eating high carb plus high fat together is a disaster waiting to happen. Bart Kay explains the Randle cycle inducing insulin resistance over time eating this way. Dr Richard Johnson and Dr Lustig both also explains the intracacies behind excess fructose consumption. Don't know if Saladino has noticed but he's got a protruding gut now compared to his older videos

[@AndreAngelantoni]

And he’s getting away with it to an extent because of how much exercise he does.

[@JYAN2852]

@@AndreAngelantoni Right. That variable as well. He surfs and exercises from 5am to afternoon. Someone that active can get away with eating just about anything, at least for a while anyways. There is a clear distinction between how glucose and fructose both metabolize and affect metabolic pathways. There are no commercially available tests to check fructose glycation and damages. Paul is after the fructose in fruit and honey not their glucose content. That is the only reason for anyone to seek out sweet carbs. Glucose/starch is not sweet such as rice, potato, green bananas, etc. If what he's doing works for him, more power to him. But promoting it as optimal and to reverse insulin resistance is dangerous

[@AndreAngelantoni]

@@JYAN2852 agreed. He's using his n=1 and recommending it for everyone.

[@buckmurdock2500]

can you cite that science? a KZbin 'influencer' opinion is much better than that science stuff anyway. Especially if it's what one wanted to hear.

[@andredaedone7732]

I like Bart. He is funny.

[@blsrulz]

Yeah, the Hadza ate honey and fruits, but not 7 days a week, all of our primitive ancestors did but it was seasonal, not daily.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

If anything they had a sweet treat a couple times a year

[@defeqel6537]

They also only drank water rarely, and black people in general hold on to electrolytes better than white people, likely because we have used a lot of salt for food preservation for ages

[@Chris_Patton]

I'll bet they eat fruit and honey way more often that twice a year dude. Those aren't such rare commodities. I think saladino is correct. Different people benefit from varying amounts of veggie carbs. For a lot of people it's very little. It's annoying as hell that for so many folks on this carnivore diet, their main struggle was food addictions, and now they can't handle that other people are able to moderate sugar and carbs. They have to believe that their diet is the only healthy way to eat, in spite of the fact that most people realistically need some amount of fruit or carbs to be optimally healthy

[@HelenEk7]

I live in Norway, and the fruit season here is very short; July - October. The rest of the year people would have very little access to fruit. My ancestors are all from this area and I suspect Im just not genetically adapted to eating lots of fruit every day. I can eat a bit of low carb fruit (raspberries, blackberries etc), but I can to make sure I dont overdo it.

[@Abdul_Wakeel_Ghuraba]

​@@Sarah-with-an-H you guys don't know what you're talking about

[@Neolifeketoshari]

Dr. Westman is on point which I would expect no less. Saladino unfortunately was not keeping his electrolytes in balance. Also I believe he was eating a LOT of organs. Also, protein does illecit a glucose spike so in turn an insulin signal increase. Don't need carbs to do that. I am saddened by Paul's recent videos over the last couple years because he was really good a few years ago. He really hasn't done the science and research, it is all basically his "thoughts" similar to Joey Schwartz.

[@Meatmanmark75]

He was never carnivor eatting fruit.like it was going out of fashion

[@OulChap]

Paul seems to now be advertising carb's, almost as if he has some sort of financial gain from it. I just can't see how he can switch from one method and then back to the complete opposite.

[@anslemscoon2346]

Maybe Kellogg's or Nestle , Pepsi or Coke has agreed to pay him generously for his change of perspective .

[@rochellet7303]

Thanks for doing this video. You confirmed my suspicions! I appreciate your voice of consistent science and reason.

[@melissagates-perry5544]

Thank you Dr Westman for your calm, intelligent, way of talking about these issues. You are my hero!! 🤩🤩🤩

[@eirinn2]

That man's busy hands make me feel dizzy. Without knowing very much about him, my first impressions of him are that he's a band-wagon man - any band-wagon will do as long as there is a book and money potential in it. Personally I couldn't care less about what he's trying to flog. Keto works for me and that's all I need to know. Thanks Dr. Westman and Team. You and your video's are appreciated and valued.

[@rhall9859]

I agree with you a thousand percent. Gives me kind of a conman vibe to be honest. In the past moving hands or make me feel extremely uncomfortable.

[@theworld-plex-funadventure8352]

Thank you for reacting to this video :)

[@MundaneCarnivore]

Paul kept bringing up honey like an addict 😂 of course they went after honey. Sugar is a drug.

[@jessie9653]

Lol I thought the same thing 😂

[@1Hope4All]

He's an addict! You know how I can tell? He's spastic and all over the place! Lunacy comes to mind.

[@WordAboveAll]

Dr Paul has numerous vids on honey. Honey is not a sugar but obviously contains sugar and raw honey works totally different in the body than regular "sugar".

[@ghostbird92]

He acts like these people find loads of honey every single day. Once and a while sure, but not to the extent Paul has taken it to.

[@toriwolf5978]

He is definitely on a sugar high hah😂😂lol

[@maplin007]

Big difference eating honey when you find a hive compared to having carbs on tap, also ate the comb and grubs with it. There is no way they had honey every day or even every week.

[@magicf7076]

I do agree with dr. Westman. I do a lot of training/exercise. Heavy lifting, walking, running and cycling. 9 years keto diet now. Not any problem, furthermore, I have never ever been that strong and fit. Carbs? Those were the old days …

[@aussiegirl7145]

Dr. Eric Westman, you are a true gentleman with genuine care for humanity. As a 66-year-old woman, I respect and value your information. Thank you, Sir.

[@user-rk2sy8df4s]

I recommend staying away from fruit if you crave sugar. I can't stop eating fruit until it's all gone.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

I think it’s different for everyone. Fruit isn’t at the top of my binge foods list because I usually start to feel a bit off. My triggers are generally processed foods like chips cheese breads and other baked goods pasta and ice cream. However if I eat fruit later on it will trigger my appetite. I’m low carb because these foods trigger an insatiable appetite. Roasted potatoes weirdly don’t seem to trigger so a side of potatoes is something I include maybe 3 times a month. I have binge eating disorder though so that’s my main reason for wanting to be low carb because I can see my own hunger cues what’s a trigger for a bing concerning the kinds of foods I eat and all that.

[@dianasthings729]

I can't even have fruit flavored seltzer because it triggers sugar cravings.

[@KetoBandito]

I agree..this guys sounds like a crack addict trying to justify his addiction🤔

[@jeovanniperez3949]

Well would you rather have fruit or an Oreo cookie or an ice cream cus I’d rather choose the sugars from a mango over that

[@fiona4731]

I can never thank Dr Paul Saladino enough as it was his interview with Ivor Cummins that made me look into Carnivore for an autoimmune issue. I read his book which will always remain an essential Carnivore diet resource IMHO. It is disappointing that Paul has reverted to eating fruit and honey and even worse that he is advocating this to everyone. I appreciate Dr Westman doing his “usual” with Saladino and pointing out that both he and De Lauer are only talking from personal experience when it comes to blood tests and reintroducing carbs.

[@Snowsea-gs4wu]

And both Saladino and De Lauer are young around 40 or so with a body that is well above average probably paired with some excellent genes that not all of us have. That allows them a lot of leeway but just for them!

[@BaconIsNotBiceps]

Worse that he's advocating the most healthy, disease-preventing foods in the world in fruits??? Please, never preach that sentiment to Dr. Robert Morse who has been healing people of "incurable" diseases like ALS, MS, Lupus, Cancer, Diabetes and many more for 50-years using only fruit, melons, berries and herbs. There isn't a doctor or "expert" alive who can retract or diminish a 90% success rate over 50-years regardless of their disinformation and/or wrong information disseminated on the internet. There is no refutation when someone is as successful as Dr. Morse. No one comes close in fact. People have been lied to for too long which is evidenced upon reading some of the comments on these videos. I defy anyone on the entire internet to debate Dr. Morse face to face and tell him that the millions of people he's cured aren't cured, then tell those people they aren't cured. It's utterly ridiculous reading some of these comments.

[@babyreps365]

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[@Triniteeluvingurl]

​@@Snowsea-gs4wuit's probably not just them though. I think it's good that he shares that he thinks he was wrong and corrected himself. There could be other ppl who had the same issues on carnivore and needed to add in a small amount of carbs for optimal balance. Y'all would've preferred him be dogmatic when it was obvious something wasn't working for him as he thought? The key think I'm glad more ppl are noticing from all these differences of opinion is there is no one size fits all and there's multiple things that can work well for ppl

[@catchristo9406]

I also added in a few carbs after I met my weight loss goal, but some foods make me bloat. Trick is to stay away from those and still keep the carbs low. I do feel best when I eat strict carnivore though.

[@tricord2939]

Dr. Westman and your video ninja, kudos on the new background, professional and easy to view. 😀

[@mariavanleeuwen9506]

Dr Westman is a gentleman and very professional. A pleasure to listen to.

[@richardmathews8250]

As far as becoming less tolerant of carbs after you've been very low carb for some time, and having a high response to a carb load, suggesting insulin resistance, I'm inclined to think of a recovered alcoholic, who used to be able to "hold his liquor", now it takes less alcohol to produce the same degree of visible impairment. Just my thoughts.

[@Pcg957]

I was told it was physiological insulin resistance. Not true resistance. But I agree with you.

[@defeqel6537]

It's not insulin resistance, if you have the subject eat an increasing amount of carbohydrates over 3 days before the test, their insulin response is normal. 3 days so you aren't doing damage to them. The reason is that we have 2 states to insulin release, the first uses stored insulin, and the latter newly created insulin, long term keto depletes the stores insulin (as it is not used), so the first stage does not trigger the first time you have carbohydrates.

[@donbarnard82]

Didn't you go through an adaptation phase going off carbs? Were you becoming an alcoholic? :)

[@richardmathews8250]

@@donbarnard82 I'm fat adapted, there is no adaption happening when going back to carbs, but I do feel the negative results of a high carb binge.

[@ericneering6357]

My grandma who lived till right before age 84 said everything in moderation don’t over eat don’t unders eat and have everything in moderation and if you try something new, try it by self so you can see if you have a reaction. This is what she always told us.

[@deborahmichele]

This guy drives me nuts (Saladino) when he talks about tribes in Africa liking carbs/honey: Of course they like honey! But how often do they find a bee hive to eat?!!! These folks also don't sit at a desk job and eat fruit and honey all day! Most of us don't live like tribes in Africa so, to hold up what they eat like it's a paragon of nutrition for all people is insane.

[@mariad1151]

Not really. 20% their diet is honey. 50% carb. The anthropologists also tracked the mesai (spelling?) in Africa who walk nearly all day & found what you would not believe. They burn the same number of calories per day as we do. The body is baffling !

[@eby6114]

The problem i have with most of the arguments towards carbs is that through development of plants and fruits theres currently aa abundance of sugar all of a sudden and this has never been the case in the past thousands of years ago. They for the most part just didn't exist.

[@johnfiorvento6416]

Wonder when Dr. Saladino's new book is coming out LOL

[@ToriLynnH]

300 grams, not 3000 grams If you aren't a carbaholic, that's great! For us carbaholics, we just can't do that.

[@gwk123]

This guy is NUTS! Exhausting just listening!

[@philipsheard624]

Thank you Dr Westman. Your personal approach to situations really matters and appreciated. X

[@archiethebold2000]

I bought Saladino's carnivor diet books. Since he rejects his ideas, now, can I ask for my money back?

[@roya340]

You are very smart. You have a businessman's intellect

[@Nao20244]

No, its call upgrade . You have to buy another book aboit why the previous book was wrong

[@lliamjurdom9505]

Ohhhh Aaaarchie I thought you were dead.

[@JH-nj8up]

Funds are running low, needs to write a new book.

[@jasontrue8056]

Try not being a sheep in the 1st place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cogitoanima2468]

I think it is pretty simple. Eat what makes your body be at it's best. Everybodies gut is different , some need more protein, some more fats, others a little more carb due to more exercise or lifestyle. Meat and vegetables but choose wisely and listen to your body. I took bread, pasta and rice out of the equation due to inflammation now looking at my bodies reaction to certain vegetables and fruits.

[@parapoliticos52]

SAlatino by his own admission he had muscle aches and twitches in the night. This guy also by his own admission serfs 5 hours a day. Then he lifts. He is also a middle aged man, i think 45 years old. So much exercise in his age it damages his muscles and joints. Or the amount on sweat he produces. Or cortisol. He already lives in a tropical climate. But ultimately i suspect the main reason was that there aren't any sponsors in carnivores

[@kathiefleming2830]

I Too think it’s about financial gain not really helping people. Too bad really.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

@@kathiefleming2830 Yeah he gives very shill whatever to make $$$$ vibes

[@buckmurdock2500]

bwwwaaaahhhaaaa

[@pelleoh]

@@buckmurdock2500What's wrong in your life? We all wonders since you seek up channels where you can post hate onto others. Tragic.

[@ndt270]

Saladino is experiencing the Liver King rebound effect which causes reverse flow of disgestive materials, and they have migrated via the vagus nerve to his brain. A shame, really.

[@onebridge7231]

Guaranteed our ancestors ate carbs. Berries, nut, etc. The difference is they had to be active to search them out and didn’t consume them by the bag full in one sitting. The majority of folks don’t require a 100% Lion Diet, but they fail on Keto because of all the snacks.

[@CG-qx5zd]

Paul Clearly said he was having heart palpitations, muscle cramps and sleep disturbances, which was why he slowly added carbohydrates back in his diet, which in time these issues resolved. Eric says he quit the carnivore/keto diet because of some concerning lab results, but that is not the case. I had the same problems on the carnivore/keto diet, after initially doing great. Heart palpitations that would would make me stop what i was doing during the day, and even wake me up at night. Despite heavy electrolyte supplementation, my heart palpitations continued to get worse. I carried salt in my pocket, added Relyte electrolytes and ketochow electrolyte drops to all the water i drank, heavily salted my meat, and the palpitations continued. I was also spraying magnesium oil on my skin daily. Learning of Paul's experience, I slowly added low toxic carbs back into my diet, and my heart palpitations slowly went away as well. I am thankful Paul shared his experience with us, as I'd much rather take a daily dose of honey than a daily dose of a beta blocker.

[@mariad1151]

Maybe thyroid?

[@rjahn3000]

Same here, my thyroid function is normal.

[@CG-qx5zd]

My thyroid is normal. All my labs I’ve had checked at doctor visits have been normal. I even had multiple more labs tested than my doctor had wanted to check. I’m healthy and active at age 36. I truly believe it was electrolyte issues from prolonged low insulin levels (about 14 months carnivore/keto before the palpitations started).

[@mariad1151]

Something we have to be careful about

[@thebiggestpanda1]

We’re you eating a lot of organs? Eating too much liver can give you iron overload or hypervitaminosis which can cause the issues you’re describing.

[@trustHimforlife]

Thank you for this video. I follow and try to absorb as much information as possible from keto/carnivore social media influencers. Hearing one, then hearing someone else disagree can be confusing. I appreciate your experience and expertise. Knowledge is power.

[@betseyspencer5370]

Like honey because its sweet. I crave ice cream. Doesn't mean it's good for me

[@mcmcpoi-ra7405]

Paul Saladino is eating too much liver (at many times the proportions you would find it in animals) and either the iron overload or hypervitaminosis A is what likely caused all his issues, however, he is unable to admit this this as he is heavily invested in his liver pill company. None of the muscle-meat carnivores that have done it for significantly longer have had these issues.

[@IonTrone]

Dr Paul Saladino (the artist formerly known as CarnivoreMD) is doing a sugar-based carnivore diet ;-)

[@Longtack55]

Personal anecdotes are not good science. Thanks, Dr Westman, I enjoy your calm delivery.

[@GameofTrees]

There is a little narcissism involved here I believe. I’m currently in the carnivore space personally, but I always refer people to your space because you are so grounded in a principled approach. I would also think Dr. Bickman would have a lot to say about these confident claims about “insulin resistance” on both ends of the metabolic spectrum. I am choosing mostly carnivore at the moment mostly because of the simplicity. I can’t imagine going beyond 20 total grams of carbs/day. Thank you for your solid approach Dr. Westman.

[@debbiesivertson817]

Thank you for being the voice of reason ❤❤❤!!!

[@peterpiper487]

No way am I going back to carbs. I lost 80 pounds LONG AGO before keto even became popular by adopting the keto diet for myself. I lost ALL of my health issues on keto and have not had any medical or health issues for many, many years by sticking to keto. Going back to a carb diet is insane!!!

[@lydiarieu4889]

Dr. Westman, thank you for your gracious, balanced, honest "response" to Dr. Saladino's ideas. I've done carnivore and am back on carnivore to stay as I've never felt better myself 🎉😊🙏💃💜

[@bibibachmd9995]

Thank you for your analysis. "The Carnivore Code" is an excellent book and well researched by Dr. Saladino. I was very surprised he did a 180. Been carnivore for years and doing well.

[@sundo-pf5zv]

The whole problem with all KZbin authors about diet is that EVERYONE is promoting one diet type for all people, when most likely EVERY PERSON needs to be evaluated INDIVIDUALLY about which diet is right for them. We now have vigorous promoters of vegetarianism, keto, carnivore, rice diet, juice dieters ALL AT THE SAME TIME. So it's pretty clear that DIFFERENT PEOPLE need DIFFERENT DIETS based on INDIVIDUALREQUIREMENTS

[@surferscollective613]

He went on elimination diets and now feels good on carbs, surprise. Lets circle back in 5 years to see what he's up to.

[@lori-lynngermain1333]

My experience as a recovered sugar/alcoholic, adrenaline addict who has recovered and had autoimmunity. He sounds like he quit to seek out sugar, carbs and the adrenaline high with excessive exercise!! He even talks excessively fast and he’s hyped up!! Sounds too familiar to me… maybe why he quit Carnivore!! So happy I am not in sugar or carbs or insulin seeking!!

[@DeniseDeAngelis]

Paul is a carb addict who is justifying his addiction. I’m getting whiplash from his giant switch. He seems a bit bipolar imo.

[@mariad1151]

Can't be easy ... it's hard to admit you're wrong even privately

[@theraise5243]

I eat 70% carbs. Just fine

[@olsonkarolynn]

​@@theraise5243 if I did that. I would have 1000% of excruciating pain in all of my joints! And I wouldn't be able to move at all.

[@TrendMill-wz4ho]

placebo is a powerful drug@@olsonkarolynn

[@marceloaguayo8391]

At the end of the day no diet is 100% bulletproof n with all the garbage out there,meat ,water n a bit of fruit it’s much better then all the other garbage!!!

[@louisa4295]

I am no expert but I think the following is probably true. Mammals are naturally “carboholics” who relish and seek out carbs whenever possible. This pursuit probably bestowed some metabolic benefits in prehistoric environments when sources of concentrated carbs were relatively rare and hard to find. Mammals were forced to go long periods without consuming carbohydrates in large doses. However in the modern world, where sources of highly refined carbs are found everywhere and actively promoted, telling people who have achieved metabolic benefits on low carb/Ketogenic diets that they can now consume amble amounts of carbs daily (but not too much), is the equivalent of telling a recovering alcoholic, he is free to have a couple of drinks every day (but no more than two). The long-term prognosis for his continued recovery is likely to be very poor. Just my 2 cents...

[@baccaratfitness2360]

I find it really annoying when Dr. Saladino says "We" shouldn't fear an insulin spike or glucose, like "We" are all the same. He's a guy who surfs for hours, does jiu jitsu, lifts weights etc so he's obviously metabolically healthy but he's not taking into account that that lifestyle isn't what I would call 'normal'. I've lived a life very similar to his in that I was a wrestler then a serious weight lifter for almost 50 years. He's kind of coming across as self absorbed and not taking into account the average person isn't going to be nearly as active as he is so should they still not fear insulin spikes? Should they eat 300 grams of carbs a day? He should speak to Tim Noakes. Anybody can become insulin resistant even if they train a lot. And of course the Hadza love honey, they're human! If they had access to all the sugar we do in the west of course many of them would become diabetic, metabolically unhealthy and they'd have more heart disease and cancer IF they had access to all the crap we do. It's called food addiction. Yeesh

[@judyharford5048]

I dieted myself to over 310 lbs. at 5’ 3”, so had gastric bypass surgery in 2000. I lost only 70 lbs and gradually gained back 40 of that. Tried Keto and only lost 20 pounds. Heard about carnivore and lost another 70 lbs. Maintained until recently when I became a widow. I found I needed to go to a food pantry where most food is carbohydrates. Within 2 weeks I started gaining weight. I’m not sure what I can do now to stay healthy. I just know my body can’t handle carbohydrates. We may be all the same but we are still all different in how our bodies function. 22:25

[@susans7091]

Hope the food pantry has ground beef and eggs and butter!

[@colinthomson5358]

Make sure you eat enough fat. Try adding 50grams of butter on top of what you normally eat. If you crave carbs it means you are in need of energy. You may need to try limiting protein to like 60-90grams a day for a couple of weeks to. Sorry for your loss.

[@YourLifeRedefined]

I think that Paul has an oxalate issue. I like him used to be plant based and went WAAAYYY overboard on high oxalate foods and after going carnivore and continuing for a couple years, all the sudden I started dumping and getting all the symptoms he says he had. I think this will be a problem in the carnivore community but it won’t be the meat’s fault. Whether your science shows it or not, oxalates are a serious issue and it’s been really hard to deal with.

[@mariannemedina4202]

Thank you Sally K Norton for helping us all understand the complexities of oxalates and dumping👍

[@YourLifeRedefined]

@@mariannemedina4202 absolutely 💯

[@dsmith5600]

I agree...I have an oxalate problem & just starting out on a carnivore diet ... and I just can't do.... just meat....my body just rejects it .....if I eat too much for it...and that isn't alot.....these carnivore drs. just don't understand OXALATE problem s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@5solas743]

Same here! It really rocked my work when I experienced it the first time…it was BRUTAL! I still have issues two years later. But, at least now I know what’s going on.

[@YourLifeRedefined]

@@dsmith5600 I hear ya buddy. I’m one of the ones who went carnivore and was kicking ass for 2 years until the oxalates decided they want out. It’s been really rough but I want them out and will continue to fight.

[@KT-83]

The answer is simple... It's called addiction!

[@zap0918]

All of my inflammation related problems, including my psoriasis went away when I started keto/carnivore.

[@markfarrell2671]

@Dr.EricWestman-AdaptYourLife I have so much respect for your approach. When you see it you know it !!!!

[@maryannehill8821]

Using African natives’ lifestyle as a reason to eat more carbs is ludicrous- their total lifestyle is so different from the average person who lives in the west. Besides this guy now spends most of his time surfing😂😂😂😂so that too isn’t exactly the average guy. Thank you Dr Westman again keeping us grounded 🙏🫶👏❤️

[@murraypooley9199]

Paul talks about the tribe preferring honey. Off course, it is sugar and addictive. In the west we prefere sugar and can get it in an endless supply. But these tribes people would not have honey all the time, only as a treat when it is avaliable.

[@rachaelfromqldaustralia8915]

I have to admit that Paul looks a lot older than 12 months ago.

[@mindingmybusiness6309]

Sunlight

[@dennisrogers4665]

I wonder if sunlight might indeed help explain something. I personally was alarmed at how rapidly he appeared to be aging when 100% or near 100% carnivore. His rapid aging is absolutely not something recent and not something that started with more carbs.

[@rachaelfromqldaustralia8915]

@rjthomasindyusa His skin has aged more than 12 months in the last year

[@chavbudgie4299]

Exactly right, too much exercise and sun is aging him, fat has disappeared from his face. Compare him to Dr Chaffee.

[@josefinecarlsgart]

=glycation damage...

[@TrendMill-wz4ho]

For those who are obese, keto diets make sense. For those who are already healthy and want to optimize their health, keto is likely not helpful because of the micronutrients you miss out on.

[@louisacapell]

Of course he can eat carbs, he does instense workouts 5 hours a day 7 days a week.

[@daiagomes6778]

Thank you!!! We need people like you!!!

[@leroyharder4491]

In nature, honey is a very occasional treat. Especially if the colony is destroyed in the process of harvesting. Wouldn't take long to substantially reduce bee numbers in the local environment with this approach. Speaking as a beekeeper. Of course its desired as it is rare and it tastes good. As a formerly very fit, now just fit person, my blood work was very good as I approached my 50s. I ate a mix of carbs and protein with very little junk food. But as my 50's progressed, my activity went down a bit and my bp started creeping up even though the labs were still pretty good. I considered the medication just a coverup for what was going on. My brother tried keto and brought his blood pressure down, so I tried it and now my blood pressure is normal and am off medication. I consider these diets a concession to getting older as our metabolism changes and our activity slows down. As a side note my last labs were very good, with HDL going even higher and triglycerides falling even further than already very good labs. I have trouble eating enough low carb to keep weight on, so I have an occasional potato. I track blood pressure to make sure I stay in a good zone. Still trying to figure out the best mix for me. I don't pay much attention to younger very fit influencers. Intense activity can let you overcome flaws in a diet. I have seen it in myself. I am more interested in those who are getting older, but are still active. They are in a more critical stage of life where the margins for error are smaller.

[@bettymanning9807]

👍👍

[@C0nstellati0ns]

It is my hypothesis that Paul got electrolyte disturbances because he regularly ate organ meats like liver. The hypothesis is that liver contains the wrong ratio and amount of nutrients to what the body wants. The problem for Paul is that he has a company that sells organ meats supplements, so he is unable to even consider that organ meats might be bad to consume, and that his tagline of eating "nose to tail" is wrong.

[@ladycactus110]

It’s evolutionarily not sound to say that we HAVE to eat nose to tail. Not enough liver even in a huge ruminant to go around. Plenty of muscle meat though.

[@CaptnJack]

@@ladycactus110I agree, I have liver maybe once per month. I am just getting better and better now almost 1 3/4 years into this.

[@defeqel6537]

​@Jake-oq2bq you have some 2kg of liver per 200kg of muscle meat, so that's the ratio to consume

[@surferscollective613]

I would assume that if one ate the liver proportional to the rest of the animal then should be fine. So 1 liver per animal , meat cuts, other organs, fat, whatever. If he was chowing on beef liver a lot, without consuming a major amount of the rest, then the ratio will be way off. I think the ancestor diet idea tends mostly to ignore that they may have had a lot of small game, rats, small birds, eggs, stuff growing on the ground. Honey bees in nature are rare, even highly farmed bees nowadays need so much care. I think honey would have been rare.

[@hanyandme]

It's not wrong, it just has to be proportionate. A cow might weigh 500kg. A liver is at most 10kg. My maths is shocking, but proportionately, for every 5kg of muscle meat, you can have 100g of liver. It's not a lot. And its easy to eat 100g of liver in a meal, every day. It's too much! I probably eat around 500g of meat per day, so every 10 days i can have some liver. Moderation is necessary, but does not make nose to tail bad. There is plenty of offal that you could eat with abundance, however it's not fatty, and not all nutritionally dense.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

I’m cringing at Paul saying what he’s saying. People who have types of metabolic syndrome and fatty liver really thrive on low and no carb diets. Also it’s something to note that carnivore being an elimination diet helped him heal his eczema and now that condition is healed he’s capable to adding foods with carbs back into his diet. However what he’s doing is muddying the waters and adding my a lot of confusion and it really mak s me wonder if he is getting a big check to do so. Also Paul likely isn’t eating processed foods and that’s something his followers could think his approval of carbs and then choose the worst options.

[@joeberrouard3743]

I agree, I have his book and he says he cut everything other than meat and avocado out of his diet and he still had eczema, it wasn’t until he cut out the avocado that his symptoms went away. Maybe carnivore isn’t the best for him long term but he really should acknowledge it’s what healed his gut and allows him to eat the way he does today. He really has gone off the rails and just looks for science to agree with what he wants to portray

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

@@joeberrouard3743 It’s perfectly ok if carnivore isn’t the best long term since the body’s needs change all the time. Could you even imagine the only diet you ever had in your life was the diet you had as a baby? I think it’s wise we all get into the habit of over time reassess what we are doing for ourselves and where to go from there. Still it’s incredibly dangerous what he’s doing as I can picture his followers thinking he’s giving the green light for junk food.

[@mechkota]

@@Sarah-with-an-H The carbs that he is eating are fruits and honey. No veggies. Even fresh veggies and now carb veggies.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

@@mechkota I know but people love excuses

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

@beastbombshell3589 No you’re missing what I’m actually conveying here. You will have to adjust your diet as you address your issues you learn what you’re doing for yourself isn’t the best idea for you now. Like when people start carnivore going being as high fat as when you started might not be what you need now. . It’s really really good to take stock and adjust along the way I myself find I have issues with oxalate doing moping so I have had to add something back now and then.

[@ronmcdon01]

Is Paul Saladino MD releasing a new book by any chance ;-) . 'The Carnivore Code' sold extremely well, but you can only sell that much. So next stop the Carb Code?!

[@jobrown8146]

We each have to find what works for us. There is *no* one size fits all.

[@MZajac-fm9yj]

Dr. Westman you are my North Star. I have been following you, Dr. Berry, Dr. Baker, Dr. Bosworth, et. al. since I started my journey three years ago. I just found out today that you are here in my hometown of Durham, NC and with Duke, my current health care provider. What fabulous news! I have gotten zero help from my current doctor with the exception of a whole lot of gaslighting. I went from an unhealthy and metabolically ill 265 lbs in October 2020 to 175 lbs in July 2023. Everything my doctor at Duke told me to do- I did the exact opposite- and got great results on a Ketogenic Diet, but I was still missing something. My electrolytes were way out of whack, had horrible itching/hives and I was suffering from severe depression and anxiety while on Keto. Something was off and 2023 has not been my best year. Long story short, I corrected my electrolyte mistakes thanks mostly to you, Dr. Berry and Dr. Boz❣️ And have been doing strict Carnivore for going on 90 days! No cheating, just clean eating! Itching/hives, mental health and electrolyte issues have all been resolved. Been taking Trace Minerals Keto mainly for Potassium, Trace Minerals Mega Magnesium and Redmonds Real Salt. I started working out again and have much more energy. Also noticed that the more fat I eat, the more I maintain what I have and even lose a few pounds here and there. Kind of goes against the video you did on Dr. Gundry - as if I was what I eat, I would be extremely obese. LOL! Looking forward to meeting you and seeing you as my new Doctor❣️❤️😎👍🏻 I have a feeling 2024 is going to be the best year of my life at 60 years young! I have you to thank for this success❣️❤️😎👍🏻

[@dillydadally]

I had the same experience as Dr. Saladino independently. I was on carnivore and it did help me a lot but I was having horrible muscle cramps even without exercise and taking lots of salt. I'd bend over and ache and be stiff like a tree. I searched for a solution and found the exact video referenced here. As a result, I tried eating half of an apple and within 15 minutes it completely went away. From there, I thought, ok, I've got to figure this out because I was frustrated with so much conflicting nutrition advice, so I decided to look at the countries that have the highest life expectancies. To my surprise, they were all high carb eating countries where rice or pasta were staples of every meal. So I looked at what was really different with these countries: they walk everywhere and are more active, they have fewer processed foods and fast food and prepare their meals, they eat smaller portions, and they have very balanced diets where they get a wide variety of micronutrients. I switched to this and started cooking every meal and I instantly started feeling even better than when I was on carnivore. I still eat lots more red meat and butter than before, but also veggies, fruits, and yes, healthy carbs. I have almost no processed foods in my diet anymore. I added a daily walk first thing in the morning and after dinner as well. It's a lot of work to plan and cook every meal, but I now love my diet and feel better than I have my whole life.

[@Sara-pb6lj]

I’ve experimented with everything from WFPB to carnivore. I’ve realized like you that cutting out the ultra processed foods is the biggest thing I need to focus on. After that I work on getting enough protein and healthy fats, and then I eat carbs mostly from fruit, veggies and whole grains. I’m so over labels, I just eat in a way that supports my activity levels, makes me feel good, and produces good health markers 🙂

[@dillydadally]

@@Sara-pb6lj that sounds exactly like my journey and where I arrived. I recently watched a video that talked about how the obesity rate today is like 43% and 100 years ago it was 1%! The difference? No processed foods and more walking. If you're active and cooking with whole foods you're just not going to be unhealthy. I had to come around to getting more protein and fats as well but it made a huge difference in my health when I did.

[@KBradAdams]

Which countries did you find the healthiest and which carbs did you find as healthy! Thanks

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

​@@KBradAdams Actually, the highest longevities are Hong Kong and Japan, who also have the highest animal sourced food consumption. A recent study has also shown a direct correlation of meat consumption with longevity. Tldr, eat meat and move a lot!

[@harvinderubhi5540]

Happy you listened to your body and discovered your optimal combination of food. If we all did that then there would be no arguments on this topic and learn to live in harmony with nature

[@mattm1686]

I was going to read Dr Saladino’s book the carnivore code but now I’m not going to too much backpedaling

[@azwarriorm2617]

I saw exactly when he change his tune… right when the Strong Sistas went off carnivore diet ( for their heath) right when the changed their diet to Whole Foods he changed his tune… thats my pov.. he does extreme workouts and telling me it’s ok to eat carbs… my workouts are no where near what he does …only if im running 12plus miles would I add carbs… but I’m not running 12+ every day

[@jasonmackay1928]

Paul is right. Meat is good and if your active you should incorporate fast absorbing carbs. We have taste buds designed for sugar. Complex carbs are bad because it doesnt absorb fast and keeps blood sugar high over a long time, also raw potatoes tastes bad, so we wouldn’t just eat it naturally. Fruits we would eat and meat from a hunt for sure. We been making fire and cooking meat forever, and gathering fruits to stay fuelled for hunts.

[@CubitaLola]

Makes sense as I just added some berries back in plus kiwi. Carnivore two weeks and has helped a ton but I am active and I have Hashimotos. I started to feel really exhausted like I was lacking something. Berries seem to do the trick.

[@mariannemedina4202]

Dr. Westman you were much kinder towards Paul Saladino than Professor Bart Kay was!😂

[@zaluq]

Dr Bart Kay said that it was mostly a problem with his high use of organs and his OMAD carnivore who gave him cramps as he excercise hard every day , he recomended to eat 2 or tree times a day to elevate his insulin response , and not adding huge amount of carbs.

[@robertbeckler5058]

These guys make life difficult. It doesn't have to be but that's their schtick. It's how both are wired. Could you imagine hanging out or being their spouses.

[@nogo-j8q]

Exactly my thought 😂😂😂

[@coachcolin]

Amazing video! 🙏❤️

[@desbell7431]

He's so uncomfortable and hyper - who is he trying to convince... seemed like he can't handle his addictions 🤷‍♂️

[@ttzz175]

I am an RN. Hershey Medical Center immunology is now promoting the Carnivore diet for immune diseases and LYME Disease.

[@Biggiiful]

I was diagnosed with Lyme and I slowly found keto years ago. I think I have a bad Bartonella infection still. Mental health has been bad and keeps sending me back to carbs for comfort. No question when I'm on keto the symptoms are much better. Glad to hear they are reminding keto/carnivore. Carnivore will be even more of an elimination from possible reactions.

[@Biggiiful]

*recommending. Not "reminding."