Caroline Myss & Tami Simon: The Great Transformation

Join renowned intuitive and bestselling author Caroline Myss in conversation with Sounds True founder Tami Simon, exploring:
• Why this time is unlike any other in terms of the imperatives we face as a global family
• The power of prayer-not as a supplication for help from the divine, but an act of empowered co-creation
• Eight great shifts beings asked of humanity right now
• And much more
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Caroline Myss is a five-time New York Times bestselling author and internationally renowned speaker in the fields of human consciousness, spirituality and mysticism, health, energy medicine, and the science of medical intuition. Caroline established her own educational institute in 2003, CMED (Caroline Myss Education), which offers a diverse array of programs devoted to personal development and draws students from all over the world. In addition to her written work, Caroline maintains a rigorous international workshop and lecture schedule and has produced more than eighty audio/visual products on subjects that include healing, spirituality, personal development, and the study of archetypes.
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[@pdias8469]

Hi Caroline, am I glad to see and hear you. I know in my heart you are helping the citizens of the world to realise their power to heal.

[@janiceenzone561]

Thank you Tammy & Caroline. Excellent.

[@saphirosblue3975]

Brilliance personified. Thank you deeply. God bless you both.

[@twd2767]

Thank you Carolyn. We love you for what you do as our teacher.

[@andreasanz9453]

I used to feel stuck in my life after my mom´s death and long years of accompany her in her battle against cancer. One day I had the beautiful opportunity to listen to one of your speeches and litetaly it changed my life. I just wanted to say thank you.. I feel so grateful. I feel blessed.

[@Sashas-mom]

What did she say that changed your life. What profound truth? Some of what she says makes me feel like she has much I need to hear but her videos are kinda all over the place. (Life is huge and complex so that’s not at all a criticism.)

[@maryannmaloneylmt7173]

h my goodness! I just listened to this this morning. I felt enlivened and ready to activate!! I feel like I've had a lot of personal growth in trying to help others and show them love even when I don't agree with them. I try to bring an energetic light everywhere I go, but then I went to run a couple of errands. Every pet peeve button I have got pushed! i started to get aggravaed and impatient and then I realized what was going on. i then had to laugh at myself for being so proud of how far I've come and than hit with the reality there is always more growth to be had. LOL!!

[@sweetthoughts6591]

Enjoyed this so much. We need to hear/have philosphers and a mythology for our time, as Joseph Campbell pointed out. So a perspective of who were are, alone and together, is so necessary. Listened to Carolyn in the 90s and Sounds True in the early 2000s. Love having KZbin. As a healer, an elder, and mystic I need to have community. I am sure many others feel the same way. Bless all who are here to edify us through these times.

[@Tinyteacher1111]

Beautifully said!

[@yvonnemccalla7282]

These wonderful channelers / healers / intuitives / pyschic have literally transformed my mind / attitude / sense of gratitude / in this rapidly changing world. It has helped to ground me. I also discovered a beautiful new heart led community. You! Love Caroline. My body / mind resonates on a primal level with her message. Namaste to all.

[@timothyotis1274]

You prolly dont give a shit but if you're stoned like me during the covid times you can watch pretty much all the latest movies and series on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my brother these days xD

[@kylokingsley1299]

@Timothy Otis yea, been using Instaflixxer for years myself :)

[@robertbarbosa5856]

l can't imagine how we would be on Earth hadn't Caroline Myss come around with all these incredible insights about our condition in this Life. She makes everything so clear, so evident and turns our lives much better. Many Thanks dear Caroline Myss. Rbt. B.

[@leslee7059]

Empowering others generates generosity. Pay it forward. It feels good.

[@Sonicman415]

This may be one of the best things I have ever heard on youtube. AMAZING Truth. Yes! Yes. Yes. Thank you 💙💚💜

[@alisonmorgan2515]

yes, I agree - so grateful to have heard these words delivered in a way that I can understand and take to my heart. Thank you both Caroline and Tami. I will be looking for further material.

[@rachaelcolvin4508]

I must agree there. VERY POWERFUL, incredibly poignant and I will watch this again and again

[@dr.keshavamurthy2785]

Thank you Carolyn Myss madam and Tami Simon madam for an insightful conversation. With Humility and lots of love, light, respect and Gratitude 🙏💜🌹

[@melissabollmanartaboutart9787]

Thank you for your the Illumination

[@dhanamsathianathan5082]

Thank you for your show.God bless you both.Life is not easy .Even fully loving or helping people bring so much hurt at times. But it's so lovely to see you both with so much love and wisdom. Beautiful❤️🙏

[@chimmyanderson5066]

Thank you Tami and Caroline. THIS was so helpful !

[@beesheee]

Each of your videos is like a class, Caroline! I am running out of yellow pads. Can't stop pausing and taking notes. Thank you, Tami for setting this up! xoxo

[@beccismith4454]

Love to you both and to us all! 🥰🌿💖

[@susanwale8887]

Dear Caroline, how do I identify with your words. I see what you see and I am doing everything I can to bring your te acting’s to light. My life has changed immensely and I feel happiness day to day, letting go of control and sensing the energy and messages from the Universe. Thank you Tami and Caroline, marvellous conversation with so many insights. Bless you 🙏🏻❤️

[@litao3679]

To every mother reading this today, I hope your day is filled with everything that makes your heart smile. Thank you for bringing so much love into the world, and thank you for your dedication to your beautiful family. God bless, Namaste 💛🕊️💝💐🙏

[@litao3679]

@Nica you're more than welcome 😊💛🕊️

[@litao3679]

@Nica 😊🙇🙏 of course

[@claremurphy777]

Beautiful well wishes. Thankyou ☘️🥰Namaste

[@litao3679]

@@claremurphy777 💛🙇‍♀️🙏 you’re absolutely welcome

[@Sashas-mom]

Thank you Lita O ❤️🤗

[@rosemaryatri2009]

Dear Tami! I have been a member of Sounds True since the beginning, enjoying so many of the programs that you host and record, I do love you!!! This conversation with the brilliant Carolyn Myss is amazing! Thank you!

[@vmcniel22]

Grateful for this conversation ⭐️❤️⭐️

[@janetanner686]

The last 10 minutes of realistic truth about the consequences of how our human negative actions will have on our planet should be heard all over the world. We were at one time a country that believed and led the world with positive leadership, cooperation and faith for improved interaction for peace & saving the world's natural gifts. We all must make the choice to protect the gifts we have been given.

[@purnimasinha6079]

Absolutely love Caroline Myss!!!! Amazing teacher she is. Beyond grateful 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Tinyteacher1111]

Standing ovation and lots of prayers are coming from me!! 🙏🙏💕💕💕💫💫💫

[@mollyheily-werner3193]

Thank you for this honest, gritty, and loving conversation. We're all in this together. Bless you both 🙏

[@elenagreylich]

Brillant!!! Thank you so much ♥️

[@speakempress1913]

Tami's voice is so grounding

[@Tinyteacher1111]

I know! I agree! It’s the same voice, I think, who announces the Sounds True meditations and podcasts.

[@MeganARose-qr6si]

@@Tinyteacher1111 yes, that podcast is so great

[@marybruns3922]

@@Tinyteacher1111I ln yo

[@robertbarbosa5856]

Totally Agree and Thanks also for Tami whom created " Sounds True" with its valuable material.

[@jenniferconley5793]

Absolutely! Pluto’s sitting right on top of my Capricorn ascendant 26 degrees since 2008 . This transformation I’m going through is so intense that I don’t even know the old me anymore.

[@bodymindsoul60]

Now I understand why I was lead to you, I’ve always empowered others yet this caused precarious situations in my life, until I found you Caroline a few years ago and studied your teachings extensively , so very grateful 🙏

[@NelCooper]

Well said. I totally relate to this concept ‘empowering other yet this caused precarious situations’. I just went through such a situation and am still trying to sort it out. It challenged every fiber of my being. Thanks very much for this comment. Thanks Caroline for this very insightful video.

[@chimmyanderson5066]

I've been asking for this "map" ... Thank you for bringing it. You are both most awesome beings .

[@ellinor7369]

Thank you for sharing your wisdom - both of you!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

[@yogawitch3]

Tami & Caroline are a #dynamicdou!!! I love you both!

[@Sashas-mom]

Caroline Myss is completely new to me. I’ve heard some grains of truth that have grabbed my attention in my search for answers. She covers so many topics in these KZbin videos I can’t get to the foundation of what she has learned but I sense she has answers I’ve been searching for. This interviewer has asked, for me, so many helpful questions so thank you both. I really want to know more, do any viewers have recommendations for where to learn more?

[@jocelynegacuma4050]

🕯️ Thank you Caroline, it's inspirational. ☁️🕊️ God bless you always

[@kitamariemartin2069]

The fact that I understand all of this. That whole piece on answering a question a full body question and that it's creating change . My goodness!

[@lauriereid4531]

OMG!!! 🙀🔥🙀🔥this is so powerful.. I am involved in 12 step recovery and this is 12 step recovery on steroids! I am so truly grateful.. passing this on! THANK YOU

[@tristadav]

I am Grateful to you both and all who support you- the delivery of truth.

[@yedeydreamer777]

Brilliant!

[@Judith1774]

For me, this is Caroline at her best.

[@sonjabekker4918]

Thank you for all your beautiful insights. We love your work and the inspiring intention.

[@siminmovahed4270]

Thank you so much for the great wisdom and love! love you so much!

[@carolsampietro9873]

Thank you! So great! So much beautiful truth!

[@awaliwu]

Wow....what an amazing exchange. Thank you. I have to admit that I have absorbed the frightening narrative of the events being orchestrated and have felt in knots physically, in disbelief and shock, not knowing what to do, how to help etc etc. I know the key is exactly how you describe empowerment..I absolutely know this is true. I pray that mankind will heal.

[@Sashas-mom]

“The key is exactly how (she)described empowerment”? I’m still listening while reading comments & I’m hoping I hear whatever you heard that may help with the shock and fear of current events.

[@bodymindsoul60]

38:00 BINGO I’ve always empowered others since I was a child . I’m still empowering others through fitness. I never understood those who could not empower others!

[@danabennett5829]

Fantastic! Great timing for me personally. Thank you, love and hugs all around 💕

[@katemccoy3632]

Thank you, Miigwech

[@katemccoy3632]

About 22 to 26-27 minute mark. Unreal- has me in such wow on forgiveness. Thank you for your language here. Also I would like for anyone to know... my experience(s) I had to rewind and HEAR those minutes probably ten times literally. It struck me so intensely- I felt compelled to commit to it. To commit I had to hear it more than once, and one aspect (experience I had with it) I adopted led me to listen to it on replay until I was unaffraid of what I was hearing.

[@janeymorris1273]

Good lord, how confronting. Thanks for another great talk which I relate to.. A holy escort just beautiful x

[@valhertzog7140]

Mahalo for sharing!

[@chantalmelijn3652]

Thank you very much for your always most inspirational information and vision. It all makes so much sense.

[@ccc0424]

What a great interview! Thank you

[@yvonnemccalla7282]

This resonates with me on a body, mind & spiritual level. Two multi-dimensional beings in conversation. The Divine Feminine in motion! Namaste to all.

[@lightroomforecast6582]

wisdom and truth in motion..thankyou for this , much respect to you both for your work. arohanui.

[@anarobinson7054]

Thank you for your wisdom. God bless you both

[@sanskaroflife1292]

So looking forward to this !

[@bodymindsoul60]

Wow, I always lived my life on principle “. Just 2 days ago I made a difficult choice to not “act” on this in a personal situation with my daughter. I was taught sometimes it is necessary to walk away. I’m not always “entitled to “justice” ... God showed me and how intimate it felt 🙏

[@chriswilliams4195]

Hi Annie

[@beccismith4454]

💗

[@bodymindsoul60]

@@chriswilliams4195 Hi Chris

[@chriswilliams4195]

@@bodymindsoul60 you are from America I guess....

[@chriswilliams4195]

@@bodymindsoul60 how are you doing

[@lynnb8100]

Much food for my Soul....thank you.

[@mollymoerdyk1682]

I too am committed to opening the door to wisdom.

[@erichannemann9713]

I'm so excited and blessed the right financial situation came into my life at the right time where I was able to sign up for this course! I'm so excited to begin!

[@melaniedillon9787]

Thank you for your wisdom and insight. You are helping me transition from being a career caregiver (LCPC) to a more spiritual caregiver. I'm a work in process, and very grateful.

[@chriswilliams4195]

Really? That's good

[@bloomingyoga8129]

What a mystical snd practical journey together. I love you all ❤️

[@julielundgren9799]

Just listening 🎧🙏

[@alliesteamc3546]

Yes, let’s do it now!

[@suchinta51]

Great gratitude and blessings to you both for this sharing.

[@ginnywoodhouse6350]

So inspiring. I really benefitted by listening. Thank you!

[@debwlovelife2455]

Bless you,for all that you do ladies,you are inspirations to me. Your wealth of knowledge, helps me to keep putting my head up and face the sun.amen

[@hildamaclean2763]

Love the Divine Wisdom and Love! 🕊🕊🕊

[@empoweryourlifeatstepintop1413]

Powerful message for us all. Thank you so much for your wisdom. 🙏🙏

[@iQbalishani]

Thank you for-ever.

[@yasminehasham1060]

Thank you Tami and Caroline Brilliant as always _ balm to my soul ❤ 🙏

[@vielkajones]

Tami is able to ask those questions I want to ask but are unable to because I am not there is person. Tami thanks for your wonderful questions too..

[@Emptymoon1]

Carolyn Myss ♥️

[@lorenafernandez8678]

Thank you 🌹🌌

[@helenekrenchel9411]

So much looking forward to this work. Signed up yesterday🙏🏼. Helene from Denmark

[@cynthiamay512]

Wow Caroline is amazing

[@ellendeme5998]

Hello from the UK

[@cookcarmela]

Absolutely eye opening to so many levels thank you 🙏

[@bodymindsoul60]

Lol 🧐I’ve always felt the reason the galaxy’s keep expanding is that we are all energetic light stars 💫☺️

[@PhilVerryChannel]

.........what? Meh...

[@marylou403]

MERCI

[@bodymindsoul60]

Ps. It felt WONDERFUL 💫

[@katrinaevans7872]

I see the light in 2020 And i have always been spiritual

[@leannefaulkner-charve6910]

fantastic, just fantastic, thank you ladies!

[@bodymindsoul60]

31:00 Spot ON!!❤️

[@deborahquinnan]

So good!!!

[@robincrowflies]

The negative vocabulary that sabotoges our power: but try deserve blame entitled

[@seasonedcatholic906]

So in the chat, while the talk was being given, I said that real courage is aligning your social and political actions with your spiritual values. Then I questioned the recent antics of 1 political party in spreading a massive election lie and even defending armed insurrection against the capitol to overthrow the election. Everyone jumped on me. How dare I suggest that voting for a particular party has anything to do with spiritual values and the transformation of earth? How dare I judge a political party that has a vast right wing media empire built on lies that led to the January 6th insurrection at the capitol? How dare I judge the spiritual level of consciousness of Donald Trump after 4 years of his rule. As if this is all a matter of personal opinion, like choosing a Honda versus a Toyota car. I was told that politics is irrelevant on a spiritual forum. WHAT?!??!?! Politics is the most direct way we can actually influence the transformation of Earth or vote to suppress this. If you do not consider your political choices to have spiritual ramifications, then how can you listen to talks about planetary transformation, especially when 1 party seems to be diametrically opposed to that transformation? And where did anyone get the idea that if you are spiritual, you have a form of frontal lobotomy and never evaluate or (gasp) judge anything or anyone? This is a serious lack of personal responsibility that is rampant in the New Age/New Thought community. Everyone wants to just listen to inspiring talks and feel high for awhile. But God forbid if you ask them to do something based on it. People tune in to such talks for their dose of spiritual cotton candy, but they don't apply it at all to the actions they take in the social or political arena. And again, how dare I call them on it? These people would have been model citizens in Nazi Germany in 1938. While high consciousness speakers were talking about planetary ascension to small groups in German towns, letting the attendants feel so blissful and spiritual, a juggernaut of evil was descending on the world. But who am I to judge, right? Fascism, Democracy, Good or Evil. It's all relative, right? And no spiritual person would presume to take a stand, right? I can't believe Carolyn Myss supports this form of "everything goes - it is all relative" spirituality that her fans seem to espouse. I always considered Carolyn to be quite practical and down-to-earth in her spiritual views. Am I wrong? Is this just another pie-in-the-sky movement where earth will transcend if we just sit in our comfy homes and co-create with our thoughts? Taking any stand against evil is non-spiritual? Wow. It seems Carolyn or her KZbin channel support person has banned me. What a crock of shit! You won't allow me to sincerely ask questions and speak my mind? Goodbye, Carolyn.

[@enaanand]

'... you are called to be more integrous ...' no coincidence Martha Beck is talking about integrity now, and Penney Peirce about transparency... cool ;)

[@christinemaskaly5208]

❤️

[@amandaboyle844]

Good for the "Spirit!'

[@guitpizz]

For one of the first time, the controlling structures of our lives have been revealed. Even the semi-blind can see what is going on. The question is: so we retreat inside of ourselves or do we spread the message of those who are putting their jobs, life and reputation at risk in order to keep the curtain lifted as long as possible so the future generation remembers the mode of operation of the massive forces used to operate in the shadows. Some will defend the status quo and the oppressor. Some will push back.

[@Timefairyjina]

💜

[@k8sl]

Life on life’s terms

[@Cobaltblueprism]

As someone with a disability, I see a lot people misusing their power. If you don't play to be a charity project or someone to be under their tutelage, they do not help. Many love the underdog rising stories but they do not want someone competent to rise to their level.

[@Vannyaniclefy]

Yes, I understand the part that we should get over our fear of empowering other people. But what if these people turn violent? How should we act then? Blessings Dr. Myss.

[@heathergrahame9647]

People act violently when they're disempowered. If you empower them, they become much nicer people.

[@Vannyaniclefy]

@@heathergrahame9647 I think I know what you mean. "Hate and violence don't get solved with more hate and more violence, but with love". Is that what you're trying to say?

[@heathergrahame9647]

@@Vannyaniclefy I mean something more than that and I want to explain it so that you understand. Do you know the experience of being blocked or stopped from doing something you really want? You get angry, right? Well, that anger gives you more power and courage to keep going and overcome the obstacle. So when someone is violent, they are feeling or seeing an obstacle and they're drawing upon extra power within themselves to overcome the perceived obstacle. But a person only sees something as a big obstacle when they're feeling weak and disempowered. They think the obstacle has lots of power. If you can empower a person and make them believe in themselves and their own abilities, then the obstacle doesn't seem so big, and they know that they don't need to get all huffy and puffy and angry or violent to overcome it. Hope that makes sense for you.

[@Vannyaniclefy]

@@heathergrahame9647 Yes. Thank you. 👍😊

[@heathergrahame9647]

@@Vannyaniclefy I also want to explain that drinking vinegar helps with feelings of anger. I use apple cider vinegar but it can be any vinegar. Take between a teaspoon and a tablespoon per day, diluted in water.

[@judithfasone2275]

Praise as if it has already happened

[@benmadderom2281]

I've regained three inches of lost height and all of my former health issues have disappeared.

[@yvonnemccalla7282]

Wow! Incredible. May you increase in health and light. Namaste.

[@nadjalisse]

“Religion is the politics of God.”

[@katrinaevans7872]

That’s ok But what if you have help someone for a long time And then they pick on you and go out their way to hurt you

[@francoisgouws7288]

Maybe its time to stop helping!

[@laurathurlow3634]

Caroline I love you but how can you claim not to be an "optimist" or "pessimist" but a "realist"? None of us have a monopoly, or even a slightly superior grasp of the "objective", if that even exists! :-)The subjective emotional colouring of one's life defines reality. We are all entitled to our experiences and interpretations. We ARE ENTITLED to innate human creativity, simply because we ARE CREATORS! We are ENTITLED to be human. (caps for emphasis, I'm not yelling)

[@maryberry6067]

Caroline where do you live? in a bubble? Do you go out into the world, or do you just have it delivered to your door? The mass (masked) psychosis is rapid here in Southern California . They even have the children wearing masks. Telling them they could kill grandma. It's nothing short of child abuse

[@willchristie2650]

So in the chat, while the talk was being given, I said that real courage is aligning your social and political actions with your spiritual values. Then I questioned the recent antics of 1 political party in spreading a massive election lie and even defending armed insurrection against the capitol to overthrow the election. Everyone jumped on me. How dare I suggest that voting for a particular party has anything to do with spiritual values and the transformation of earth? How dare I judge a political party that has a vast right wing media empire built on lies that led to the January 6th insurrection at the capitol? How dare I judge the spiritual level of consciousness of Donald Trump after 4 years of his rule. As if this is all a matter of personal opinion, like choosing a Honda versus a Toyota car. I was told that politics is irrelevant on a spiritual forum. WHAT?!??!?! Politics is the most direct way we can actually influence the transformation of Earth or vote to suppress this. If you do not consider your political choices to have spiritual ramifications, then how can you listen to talks about planetary transformation, especially when 1 party seems to be diametrically opposed to that transformation? And where did anyone get the idea that if you are spiritual, you have a form of frontal lobotomy and never evaluate or (gasp) judge anything or anyone? This is a serious lack of personal responsibility that is rampant in the New Age/New Thought community. Everyone wants to just listen to inspiring talks and feel high for awhile. But God forbid if you ask them to do something based on it. People tune in to such talks for their dose of spiritual cotton candy, but they don't apply it at all to the actions they take in the social or political arena. And again, how dare I call them on it? These people would have been model citizens in Nazi Germany in 1938. While high consciousness speakers were talking about planetary ascension to small groups in German towns, letting the attendants feel so blissful and spiritual, a juggernaut of evil was descending on the world. But who am I to judge, right? Fascism, Democracy, Good or Evil. It's all relative, right? And no spiritual person would presume to take a stand, right? I can't believe Carolyn Myss supports this form of "everything goes - it is all relative" spirituality that her fans seem to espouse. I always considered Carolyn to be quite practical and down-to-earth in her spiritual views. Am I wrong? Is this just another pie-in-the-sky movement where earth will transcend if we just sit in our comfy homes and co-create with our thoughts? Taking any stand against evil is non-spiritual? Wow.

[@thegratefulzebra2126]

I am with you 1000% please know that there are those of us understand the truth and the depth of all that is happening. Thank you for speaking truth when in ALL circles it has become “criminal” because the masses have been indoctrinated since birth by the abusers and they are so blinded and so readily believe EVERYTHING their leader tells them that they are blinded to facts and attack when they are presented with them. Its mind boggling that a huge part of the “spiritual community” has chosen to stop using their basic thought process of right and wrong and have become completely lost in indoctrination by regular people who have agendas that to ppl who choose to use BOTH intellect and intuition can discern are very lost & manipulative. They use fear and hate to cause ppl to literally and figuratively lose any sense they once had which shows how broken those souls were in the first place to be so easily controlled to become driven by hate. They now refuse to see ANY facts and only believe the fear and hate narrative but they are so backwards they convince themselves that anyone who is rational is BAD WRONG SHEEP when the facts show they are the ones who have lost sight of any semblance of reality. Can you imagine supporting the ppl who keep psychotically crying non-stop about the death of free speech but who have recently introduced 81 anti-protest bills in 34 of 50 states AND actually passed a law where its ok to run a protester over (yes repugs are doing this) ... but ya sure they keep on thinking they are great spiritual beings so far advanced from those who dont believe in hate, violence, superiority, etc... I am at a point where I dont usually comment due to the hate that follows. The ppl (spiritualists) who get mad that the “worldly” things dont matter or correlate to the political are the same ones who focus on abundance in regards to money as a key focus in their “spiritualism”... though we all need it to live NO ONE needs it in abundance and that narrative is one of many that has seeped into this journey not in a good way. As an afterthought I do not like either party but there is a very clear and basic decency kindness truth between the two and though in my personal opinion they both are vile in many ways I can still use my brain to see that one is so much more violent hateful manipulative and evil than the other that it is so painful to see supposed “enlightened or spiritual” souls who choose (and they are def choosing hate) to not only live supporting these horrible things and being completely like a cult manipulated by the fallacies spread by that group and the ppl in control of it like jim and ron watkins (Q and 8chan) two sickos who created these things as larps are now the basis of a political party who looks to criminalize people who have and use brains or who dont look like them. Its awful and I would venture to guess that there are a lot more of us that stay quiet than there are of them who obnoxiously attack at all costs

[@thegratefulzebra2126]

Are you Arizonawillful as well since they posted the same thing?

[@robincrowflies]

I don't know who jumped on you, but KZbin is full of people who love to jump on others. I agree with you that politics is one way to align your spirituality in the material world. More to the point, though, is our everyday thoughts and actions. If every person on Earth turned toward caring for their own circle, while respecting the wider circles we all are part of, we'd clean up our mess in no time at all. Chin up.

[@ArizonaWillful]

So in the chat, while the talk was being given, I said that real courage is aligning your social and political actions with your spiritual values. Then I questioned the recent antics of 1 political party in spreading a massive election lie and even defending armed insurrection against the capitol to overthrow the election. Everyone jumped on me. How dare I suggest that voting for a particular party has anything to do with spiritual values and the transformation of earth? How dare I judge a political party that has a vast right wing media empire built on lies that led to the January 6th insurrection at the capitol? How dare I judge the spiritual level of consciousness of Donald Trump after 4 years of his rule. As if this is all a matter of personal opinion, like choosing a Honda versus a Toyota car. I was told that politics is irrelevant on a spiritual forum. WHAT?!??!?! Politics is the most direct way we can actually influence the transformation of Earth or vote to suppress this. If you do not consider your political choices to have spiritual ramifications, then how can you listen to talks about planetary transformation, especially when 1 party seems to be diametrically opposed to that transformation? And where did anyone get the idea that if you are spiritual, you have a form of frontal lobotomy and never evaluate or (gasp) judge anything or anyone? This is a serious lack of personal responsibility that is rampant in the New Age/New Thought community. Everyone wants to just listen to inspiring talks and feel high for awhile. But God forbid if you ask them to do something based on it. People tune in to such talks for their dose of spiritual cotton candy, but they don't apply it at all to the actions they take in the social or political arena. And again, how dare I call them on it? These people would have been model citizens in Nazi Germany in 1938. While high consciousness speakers were talking about planetary ascension to small groups in German towns, letting the attendants feel so blissful and spiritual, a juggernaut of evil was descending on the world. But who am I to judge, right? Fascism, Democracy, Good or Evil. It's all relative, right? And no spiritual person would presume to take a stand, right? I can't believe Carolyn Myss supports this form of "everything goes - it is all relative" spirituality that her fans seem to espouse. I always considered Carolyn to be quite practical and down-to-earth in her spiritual views. Am I wrong? Is this just another pie-in-the-sky movement where earth will transcend if we just sit in our comfy homes and co-create with our thoughts? Taking any stand against evil is non-spiritual? Wow.

[@ali-es2ye]

External government can not fix our souls, our ego. Passing up our power to these factions is not going to cure our wellbeing. If the leaders are corrupt, how can the society not be forced to become the same. Are you Believing the narrative that is highly censored?

[@thegratefulzebra2126]

I am with you 1000% please know that there are those of us understand the truth and the depth of all that is happening. Thank you for speaking truth when in ALL circles it has become “criminal” because the masses have been indoctrinated since birth by the abusers and they are so blinded and so readily believe EVERYTHING their leader tells them that they are blinded to facts and attack when they are presented with them. Its mind boggling that a huge part of the “spiritual community” has chosen to stop using their basic thought process of right and wrong and have become completely lost in indoctrination by regular people who have agendas that to ppl who choose to use BOTH intellect and intuition can discern are very lost & manipulative. They use fear and hate to cause ppl to literally and figuratively lose any sense they once had which shows how broken those souls were in the first place to be so easily controlled to become driven by hate. They now refuse to see ANY facts and only believe the fear and hate narrative but they are so backwards they convince themselves that anyone who is rational is BAD WRONG SHEEP when the facts show they are the ones who have lost sight of any semblance of reality. Can you imagine supporting the ppl who keep psychotically crying non-stop about the death of free speech who have recently introduced 81 anti-protest bills in 34 of 50 states AND actually passed a law where its ok to run a protester over (yes repugs are doing this) ... but ya sure they keep on thinking they are great spiritual beings so far advanced from those who dont believe in hate, violence, superiority, etc... I am at a point where I dont usually comment due to the hate that follows. The ppl (spiritualists) who get mad that the “worldly” things dont matter or correlate to the political are the same ones who focus on abundance in regards to money as a key focus in their “spiritualism”... though we all need it to live NO ONE needs it in abundance and that narrative is one of many that has seeped into this journey not in a good way. As an afterthought I do not like either party but there is a very clear and basic decency kindness truth between the two and though in my personal opinion they both are vile in many ways I can still use my brain to see that one is so much more violent hateful manipulative and evil than the other that it is so painful to see supposed “enlightened or spiritual” souls who choose (and they are def choosing hate) to not only live supporting these horrible things and being completely like a cult manipulated by the fallacies spread by that group and the ppl in control of it like jim and ron watkins (Q and 8chan) two sickos who created these things as larps are now the basis of a political party who looks to criminalize people who have and use brains or who dont look like them. Its awful and I would venture to guess that there are a lot more of us that stay quiet than there are of them who obnoxiously attack at all costs