Enraged by my Student's Turn Bet | 25NL Poker Coaching

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📜 Video Description 📜
I've always been a big believer in being completely straightforward with my students. A good coach should never be afraid to identify and correct mistakes and this is exactly what we see here.

[@stu_ungargarments1812]

Mr. Clarke! Thanks for the shout out! Never thought I would be name-checked by the greatest poker coach north of the wall. I will now continue my mission: Against the K Diamonds Jx we are at 60% equity with our A spades and Q Diamond Holding. That equity goes up to 64.5% if villain does NOT have the dominating back door Flush Draw with his KJ. However, and this single combo is only one and should not scare us like the Monster under Negreanu's bed: If villain has the uber combo draw of KJ of diamonds our equity goes down to a 43% dog. My trueEV has never felt more Tom Dwan. Thanks again.

[@HigherPowered]

Excellent point about being unable to fold bc of irrational emotional attachment to hand strength. I liked it so much I wanted to put it into a note so I used my talk to text feature and it came out "I can't fold because I have an irrational emotional attachment to my hamster!" 😂 🐹

[@gregrogowski4017]

😂😂😂

[@The_Life_Shoequatic]

My favourite moment, "You mention we block the Flush Draw. I don't care. Neither of us understands what that means without multiple extensive analysis." "We need to think about What is my equity, What is my opponent's range, and can we value bet?" Golden Carrot Moment.

[@williamchristopher5653]

Nothing more irrelevant than "blocking" a flush draw. There is 12 cards of each suit. Meaningless and ridiculous. Unless you have an Ace of a suit, then they don't have the nuts

[@TimeHandler]

Your idea of categorising your hand as a bluff-catcher or value beater is really good. As you say, much easier to find folds now, when opponent is obviously not bluffing enough. Thanks Pete!

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Damn. The way Pete articulates his reasoning is gold. It's so much clearer for people who, like me, have maybe been out of the game for a long time and need a crash course but in the most noob friendly way possible. For instance, thanks to Ryan Fee's 6 max guide which I attribute most of my success to, I beat 25NL pretty easily back in the day. But the game has changed quite a bit and now what I'm realizing is that poker is way more complex than I could have ever imagined.

[@DarkKnightofThrones]

Hey man, I'm an honorably discharged US Marine. I like that you don't candy coat things. I now learn way better from brutal honesty than I ever will from false positive reinforcement. Yes, I have played hands this way, but because of guys like you, JL, etc, I learned how much I really wasn't playing "good poker". Now...I crush, I move up, I get taken for a small ride, make adjustments, and start crushing again. If I don't crush, I go back down and crush until I can justify another attempt. Keep doing what you're doing, man. I almost feel bad that you're coaching so many of us, with good solid advice, for free on YT.

[@ScottHedley]

37:56 Underated blocker effect comment. Also the comment you said earlier about it being better to have the A or J of diamonds than K. Cheers!

[@ScottHedley]

Really liked the river thought process in the JJ hand two thirds into the video, thank you!

[@stu_ungargarments1812]

The AcJd hand at the end of the video is interesting. Important lesson here. Our top/top is worth very little equity here after villain XR flop on the J9T board. We actually mix folds! This is interesting because solver rarely folds top/top to a XR on flop IP. Our holding has a measly 38% equity after their XR. After their XR it results in a 68% BB range equity and we are a range 42% dog. BB has twice as many straights and twice as many sets. This is a major overfold for IP from solver. Our pot odds are 28% which means we need to defend 61% of our range that's a lot of combos MDF is telling us to defend but AJ is indifferent in solver already on flop. A vast overfold when looking at MDF. Fascinating hand.

[@The_Life_Shoequatic]

Yeah. Interesting. Peter identifies this as an overfold rather quickly. And tells us using some simple combinatorics. "The villain is swimming in value combos."

[@StandAndStare]

Need to check real world data on the AQ, I cannot imagine fold is anywhere near the EV of call. I feel like the level of value owning smaller two pair is sufficient to call after 6 clean outs, not to mention arguably poor bluffed draws.

[@lukenelson1931]

You have QT crushed now. It is definitely played like this. And lots of players at all levels will play flush draws like this - the fact that people will seriously consider folding AQ is proof that shoving flush draws is profitable. Finally, you have 4 outs to the best full house. Sometimes you’re gonna beat 77 and TT that way.

[@jacobgoldman5780]

@@lukenelson1931 4 outs is only 9% equity, and the most natural bluff is KJ on flop which we lose to so need them to have J9, K9 probably of diamonds which has a bunch of equity against us anyways.

[@dannydogpoker1793]

I need a coach like you that shouts at me when I mess up 🤣

[@dariomladenovski7047]

9:00 we beat QTc, QTs and AJd I don't think we can ever fold here

[@HomeStudioBasics]

My answer to your first question (AQo hand) after pausing is that we can make him fold his draws/diamonds and thus he doesn't realize his equity? Edit: Aaaaand he had K9dd lol. I honestly was expecting him to flip KJ. Def the bottom BOTTOM of his range. As Pete said, no way he should ever make it that far with K9. The only hand I could see maybe bluffing that I said out loud was KT so it was something I'd fold in the moment and I think the correct play.

[@maxwong3480]

The shouting at the beginning makes me laugh and nearly wake my dad get up😂

[@ardor.jcx45]

Pete after watching hours upon hours of your content, I'm not sure if I've stayed for the education or for the laughs. Cheers

[@Jennylittleprincess]

Pete you're such a cool person, hands down

[@yangyang9548]

23:30 From my experience , you need villan to be a good reg at 25 NL to fold KK QQ on river pot bet.

[@paulpena5040]

@09:23 Wow has Carrot turned into a nit? Heroically fold? We beat all 2 pair combos (A10, Q10, A7), flush draws, especially Ax flush draws under pairs (KK, JJ, 99). He could be bluffing the scare card or having picked up equity with his Ax of diamonds. just too scared a fold unless it's against a NIT.

[@stu_ungargarments1812]

Important: When you are considering value betting in the hand: START WITH ESTIMATING YOUR EQUITY. When you make your quality summation of the ideal thought process in the JJ hand on turn the part that you mention that you stress is estimating our equity. Our equity of all our JJ combos is 65% in solver. Maybe a lesson to be learned here: Our equity on turn when X to is 65% with JJ, 69% with QQ, 71% with our slow played KK, and 78% with our trapping AA. I like my solver.

[@MaydayAggro]

Assuming 25nl players are solver bots.

[@IMKP26]

the AJ hand on JT9 facing x/R should already be a fold on the flop?

[@Riverkingdan]

I love clicking the rabbithunt button and seeing my outs hit.

[@Himmy-x8j]

Can someone explain why king of spades blocks more kings without a heart rather than with in the spot with the monotone board on the river.

[@attismyth791]

i really enjoy your channel - great celebration music hahaa!

[@Richard-ot5ss]

on the aq hand, what about Adxd jamming a pair of aces plus a flush draw? or other flush draws? I don't see why they don't have bluffs

[@rkadeon3295]

Had to pause the video at “why on earth did you bet here it doesn’t make any FUCKING sense” hahahahahah. Something so Scottish about the cadence, a small glimpse into your sense of humour you’re usually so professional!

[@asurp7173]

Time?

[@rkadeon3295]

@@asurp7173 1:11

[@radomirpl]

hahahah love countdown and celebration with that tune

[@ScottHedley]

28:00 - I assume KJ is a turn call, because of redraw to effective nuts; Lmk if this is too loose. KJ blocks their value but also blocks bluffs like some suited Kx with BDFD, so the blocker effect seems neutral to me (only KhJx would have truly positive blocker effects).

[@marksimpson2321]

Would 89d jam on turn?

[@ScottHedley]

0:45 just missing the blue hair for the full effect

[@paulgibbons-keynotespeaker]

I'd be super interested in being a victim (ahem ) student - Just discovered you today - amazing content. I live in the US - but roots in Fife - where do you stream from?

[@MisterAoK]

Yes Jess! Ok let's see Mark again!

[@bobsburgers8885]

In the first hand on the turn can't V have AJdd, A9dd, A8dd... possibly worse Axdd?

[@mattheosdaveronas9040]

that beggining was too good

[@shojaejlali1290]

I just had a hand online where I flatted a 3bb raise from Miďlde position in the bb with aj off. The flop came aj7 with two hearts. I check raised on the flop and the turn was a brick 5. I led out and got repaired on the turn. I was 100bb deep when hand started and calling his turn raise was about 65 bb in leaving me 35 back. I hated the spot but I just jammed it all in on the turn rather than calling only to maybe fold to a heart King or queen on the river which would be insane villain calked and showed aa. Leaving me drawing dead. Do you think that's an example of getting over involved with my hand or just cold deck? I kinda felt I was beat when he raised my turn lead but I convinced myself he could be going crazy with like a pair and flush draw or a7 or a5. I felt folding to a big raise on the turn with aj on aj75 with 2 hearts would make me super exploitable....any thoughts?

[@marksimpson2321]

The JJ v KK situation is one i run into a lot.

[@willhoulk9554]

Can’t wait to see Jess crushing it on Hustler Casino Live soon the way CarrotTop is making gangbusters progress with her in her cash game skills lol

[@Michaelperry1985]

Great episode Jess and Pete. Lfgo Jess keep on keeping on

[@ad_am_de_an]

is it ok to bet because you think they will fold?

[@clayvision]

That AJ hand I actually find it's not too unreasonable to just fold here

[@The_Life_Shoequatic]

I'm not the biggest fan of the new "You don't deserve..." However, your new, "Don't worry. You should work on that..." Quite lovely in its Milquetoast.

[@MarioRamirez-ss8cl]

Hi man. I play PLO and your depiction about this Game is accurate. Sometimes You flop a str8 no redraw in something like 7TJs in MW pot and if there is too much action, You know You are screw jejejeje.

[@percival1112]

Briljant video Pete! En I forgive you with the misread ;)

[@beatingu8347]

Find I make more money in PLO just having a strict table selection.

[@ScottHedley]

1:12 ROFL

[@bazzza4613]

Are you calling 150 Bbs with KK then? to a limp raiser? no tracking on him. ?

[@FoldinFear]

I mostly play 5 card plo, watching your content as a refresher on how to play 2 card again for a wsop full 6 week grind. Anyways, in 5 card, my preflop range is pretty tight (unless I’m looking for some postflop in position exploits), so when I flop something, I often have a ton of redraws and backdoors. The backdoors often add a surprisingly large amount of equity to the hands. Upwards of 20% at times.

[@RachitParihar]

why he does not show villain's hand ? who won AQ hand?

[@pokersoftwarereviews5051]

It's shown at 9:10. Jess wins, but Pete makes a great point that against real-life human players at this level, AQ is almost always behind here, with just 4 outs to save us.

[@dariomladenovski7047]

he forgot about QTc, QTs and AJd, this hand is a snap call because we beat some of his hands

[@RachitParihar]

@@pokersoftwarereviews5051 thank you my friend

[@marksimpson2321]

The process behind the decisions is more important than the results.

[@Mwuesse]

I can't believe you're suggesting to fold AQ in the first hand. Yeah it's not a spot you're super happy about but if you plug in a reasonably tight range and include stuff like QTs and combo flush draws (including some A high ones) we have enough equity to call. You need an insane amount of data/info about opponent before you can consider explploitatively folding this hand.

[@JD_tcb]

Ya that seemed kinda crazy. Why check and under-rep your own hand if you're just gonna fold to the obvs semi-bluff? No hand that's currently crushing should be over-defending THAT much against any remaining draws. If every shove is ultimately for VALUE or BLUFF... I mean, honestly... Does it LOOK like he wants a call here? lol. Not to mention the near 0% chance villain is open-ended. While we've got a (admittedly small) draw to a backdoor full-house to murder everyone. So, if we correctly put him on a combo flush/gutshot draw... he's left with maybe 11 outs? Big deal.

[@founik]

@@JD_tcb I'm not really sure whether you count in all facts. It is 25NL! Villain x/r OTF, if you believe villain has any draws there, you should be jamming OTF, like was said in this video. Villain bets POT (nearly 70BB) OTT on a "scary" card which should make him to play a bit more face up. Villain should not be calling K9s against a BB 3!, against a squeeze mby, because you are getting better odds + ranges could be a bit looser due to pot stealing effect. Villain was kind of lucky to have perfect blockers, blocked the stone cold nuts (KJdd) It is 25NL! So yeah, she could make a note on a player, that he is a bit loose pre-flop and he is cappable of bluffing big on a scary boards with good blockers. So she could start calling a bit more against this very specific guy. However... tell me how many more players are cappable of doing this on 25NL. Which somewhat brings us back to the flop decision.

[@paulgibbons-keynotespeaker]

Lol - I'm psychotic enough to turn jacks into a bluff - lol

[@Reniona]

New videeooo haaaaaajp!

[@daviddivad777]

*let the hate flow through you meme*

[@bookedroomer]

how are we supposed to make dumbass comments if you preempt them in the video smh

[@rob-lk4ud]

I bet this coach’s red line is going down the drain. Is up to villan to decide what hands to defend vs your value bets, is not up to you to “not eliminate the hands that beat you in his range”. Terrible player!

[@ScottHedley]

What stakes do you play and on what site(s)? From your comments it sounds like your opponents fold less than guys on Zinga or play money tables

[@Nick-th9qy]

Huh?