Testing the CHEAPEST Harley Clone Motorcycles on the Market | Venom Motorsports Build + Ride

[@CarsandCameras]

We just wrapped a WILD road trip with these bikes, stay tuned! Get $50 off either bike with our code “CarsandCameras50” check 'em out here: Venom Ghost | 250CC Chopper | 5 Speed: bit.ly/venomghost250 Venom Sportster | 250CC Chopper | 5 Speed: bit.ly/venomsportster250

[@Zane.Wellnitz]

Put a magnet in the oil filter screen 🤙🏻

[@lucassarchet6712]

I'm really excited to see part 2. I've been looking at royal enfield for about a year now for a less expensive option. These are way cheaper.

[@jimmywhitlow2012]

​@@lucassarchet6712I would go with the RE. At least it can maintain highway speeds plus have a little power to spare.

[@lucassarchet6712]

@jimmywhitlow2012 I agree, it's just cool to see such inexpensive bikes being a good deal for once.

[@mostlymotorized]

43:44 speedo is already broken. Sitting at 10ph at a stop. Garbage.

[@shanemoreland6235]

Man, it's so good to see a creator that avoids click bait opportunities!!! That wreck caught me completely by surprise...good job, guys!

[@Mountainpageproductions]

He wouldn’t do that to Charles there humble as they come there Carolina boys we have manners still here 😂

[@StanleyKubick1]

now it won't catch me by surprise, thanks

[@MrDavidfuchser]

The video is an Ad for Venom motorsports. Therefore, the thumbnail and title direct full attention to the product. Not really sure why this marketer is being praised.

[@shanemoreland6235]

@MrDavidfuchser because we enjoy their content first and foremost. Also enjoy learning about new products. There are many reasons. You didnt have to click and watch. Maybe you should scroll on by instead of harassing people in the comments. Just a thought.

[@joegreene6250]

lol, that was total clickbait like 90% of these videos. get a grip.

[@Thefrenchman120]

Charles is a top bloke 👏 👍🏻. Real modest and humble 👏. New Road tyres on damp morning grass is an easy accident 😉. I'm sure most people who have been riding years have done worse, I know I have😂. I'd enjoy a ride and a beer with him any day 🍻. Great videos guy's thanks.

[@noexp7710]

Equally as bad is dirt knobbies on freshly sealed asphalt I wiped out so hard learning that lesson. 😂

[@JimmyTheSaintDailyVideos]

Agreed, Charles really makes this channel extra special. Ive been watching well before Charles was in front of the camera, but his personality sets a different tone and is appreciated. That crash looked painful and I was concerned as soon as it happened. Glad he is back to 100%.

[@SAM-zt2uy]

Under the seat on that Venom looks very similar to my 1977 Honda CG125, also amazed to see a brand new bike with a carb!

[@rcclassiccrawlers4368]

Another bad experience is any bike tire on wet rubber railroad crossing. I don’t know if all states have them but Minnesota does and they can suck at times.

[@joegreene6250]

Yet that hillbilly still wiped out knowing what we all already know. Gonna say that was totally fabricated like every wreck they ever have. This channel hasn't been real since the their 2nd video. Sad they sold out immediately. But the technical ability isn't there, evidenced by so many past videos that duplicated what has been done MUCH BETTER years before. The 670cc dragster was laughable in its performance - but it linked directly to a sponsor. The rest of the planet would have sourced a Ninja 650 with 77HP in stock form and wiped the floor with that Harbor freight junk.

[@jonneet2126]

I had fun watching this video. I was 70 this last November, and have been looking at these two bikes online. I like them both. I've had about 30 motorcycles over many years, including two Sportsters. I loved seeing you guys assembled by and riding, good friends and good times. I had a great friend from grade school, through high school and well after. We lived and breathed motorcycles and did a little racing in high school, and toured around Washington and Oregon. Lots of off road riding too. He passed away in 2011. But, I have all the memories of our adventures over many years. I wish these bikes had kick starters as a backup. I love that the Ghost has a center stand, as they are great when doing maintenance. The seat on the red one doesn't look real passenger friendly. We moved to the big island of Hawaii in 2011, and either of these these should make good island bikes. I started riding off road at 10, and if one rides off road, then there WILL be wipeouts. Often. I've been lucky to never have a street accident. You guys seem like it would be fun to ride with you. Have fun and ride safe!

[@Kennethweaver680]

I’ve owned a couple of the Chinese bikes and 4 wheelers What I learned from my first one was that no one in China owns a toque wrench Check every nut and bolt you can find even on the engine otherwise have fun

[@DexterDagger-wy9vp]

You got that right! Drowned my Chinese dirt and street bikes with loctite otherwise the cheap hardware and poor assembly likes to self uninstall. Still alot of fun

[@lonewolfandcub668]

Definitely lol Nothing is done up

[@UrMomsNewRide69]

@@Kennethweaver680 unless it's something that doesn't need to be tight like the valve lash they always tighten them up till there is little to no gap

[@miked1254]

This may be the greatest “I wanna be a kid again” channel I’ve come across. ❤️ it. All of it.

[@dennisgauck7526]

Your reference to the early honda days (60s early 70s)is spot on. One would hope that quality is built in but just the idea that today we can go back mentally to a simpler time(no dementia comments please) seems like fun and that's what it's supposed to be about,fun,not stroking ones ego. Keep us informed if you would! The red bike reminds me of a 60s-early 70s flat track bike,sorta....

[@kevinsellsit5584]

I'm only 15 minutes in but as a Chinese motorcycle sales guy since 2005 I need to cover some things. The manual may be cool because it has a wiring diagram for some bike made somewhere, sometime by somebody ... But it also says ”turn your winker on when swerving." Don't take anything as fact. If it says .9 qts of oil, check it twice. It says to tighten ALL bolts and that is true. EVEN THE SPOKES! (Deflate tire first). If reliability is required, check that all the electrical wires are fully seated in the plastic connectors. I'll add more later. Charles, Charles, Charles ... John, please get some "Crashing Sucks" stickers and put them on the tank of EVERYTHING. It's a good reminder.

[@gargantus5]

SO glad Charles is okay! Awesome to see someone keep the heritage of the old rides! The fact that you can get a NEW Ride in these times is amazing! Been following you guys for years and you guys Never disappoint!

[@NubsWithGuns]

A real country boy doesn't pass up free bolts. Love Charles, he snatched those right up.

[@twocvbloke]

One thing I have to make a suggestion to use on the track, them bike intercom headsets (or whatever they're called officially), cos the times you guys have had offs on the track and not knowing what's going on, a bike intercom system would be really useful to be able to speak to people out on the track, whether racing karts or convoy-testing bikes like these, just so you know something's happened and make sure that things are okay...

[@Tater_Lord]

If you pay attention when they did the road test you can see they have what looks like a senna headset on the helmets

[@twocvbloke]

@@Tater_Lord If you pay attention to my saying "on the track" three times, you can see I was referring to using them on the track...

[@DouglasInman-z6o]

Where I buy one.

[@danf4616]

I know you got them for free, but if I wanted a 250cc road bike, and wanted to spend no more than about $2500, I'd buy a used Honda Rebel. Even 10 years old they'll last far longer and be easier to get parts for, and are far better looking. Just can't beat real Honda quality... Thanks for the videos! 👍👍

[@jasonjgr8580]

@danf1416, honda is great but a 10 year bike is not out lasting a new bike.

[@mostlymotorized]

​@@jasonjgr8580 oh really? 43:44 speedo is already broken. Sitting at 10kph at a stop. Garbage

[@billmoore7133]

Yes, they will outlast that Chinese crap by decades...Those bikes are junk!@@jasonjgr8580

[@Jared_M_Photos]

@@jasonjgr8580 I'm willing to bet an older Honda will outlast a new Chinese bike by quite the margin. The build quality for longevity isn't even a fair competition.

[@kyleewert5630]

​@jasonjgr8580 a 40 yr old Honda would outlast these bikes, and wouldn't bend the axle in a tip over

[@larrydavidson3402]

Just glad Charles is OK. Those are nice bikes, I especially like the black one.

[@otterhessian3742]

John totally nailed it. Looks like a Honda 350 series from the 70's SL/CL/Scrambler/ but this being a single. I don't see a Harley in it.

[@rusack7174]

First thing I noticed. Just an enlarged SL125 single clone.

[@paulweigle6872]

Don't feel bad Charles, I did the exact same thing, and I've been riding for years. You're ok, that's all that REALLY matters.

[@JJ--CAR]

A couple of years ago I got a Chinese dirt bike. Thing still runs great. Only problem was I had to go back through and tighten ALL the bolts. Dont skip anything.Just a heads up.

[@PLAYERSLAYER_22]

loctite? or just buy a new one every few years, but what do i know...

[@JJ--CAR]

@@PLAYERSLAYER_22lol yeah I used loctite myself. It's just crazy how many bolts came so loose . Had to check everything

[@PLAYERSLAYER_22]

@@JJ--CAR it can happen but dang.

[@heath19751996]

The red one is a scrambler candidate for sure! Couple knobbys a new exhaust pegs and some cool stickers!

[@bb-ballistics1706]

I was engrossed in the video and I flinched when the front end washed out. Brought back some bad memories for a split second 🤣

[@extremecheddarswityomom]

I loved getting to watch issac and charles open the second bike like it was second christmas

[@CheapAngler]

I felt that "That's embarrassing." I wiped out almost exactly the same way but on the street in front of a bunch of people. My pride was hurt more than anything else.

[@cliffgrimes895]

I hear you. I rode my bike to see my sister once and since she lived in a rather high traffic town, I engaged the steering locks, for peace of mind. I never engage the steering lock under normal circumstances. A few days later as everyone was gathered around, saying goodbyes, I cranked up and took off, to the left following the curve of the cul de sac… I nearly broke the handlebars off trying to turn the bike straight. BAM! Down I went! Really hurt my pride!

[@synissilent9235]

Hey guys, really glad you guys are getting more into motorcycles lately. I love riding and watching motorcycle content so it's awesome to see you guys bring the quirk and jankiness to the motorcycle world now. I also wanted to say, you guys are the first I know of that genuinely liked BOOM motorcycles. Another youtuber I watch named YammieNoob especially disliked the BOOM BD250 for poor welds, bad tires, cheap feel, and a bunch of other things and from what I've seen that's the general consensus, so I'm glad you guys gave it a shot and held your own opinions.

[@Herbybandit]

I'm glad Charles is OK, don't shy away from the clutch mate! The more you use it the better you'll get. 😉 But I was quite suprised how much damage was done and that front wheel spindle looks sloppy fitting and too thin! My '82 Honda CX has a much thicker and locking spindle as did my '72 XL125.

[@shk2564]

I’m really glad Charles is okay and I wouldn’t feel bad about it because it could easily happen to anybody! 🙏❤️

[@PLAYERSLAYER_22]

yeah, anybody...

[@SuperVettefan]

No not anybody. Just those riding above their head. Ran out of talent

[@SuperVettefan]

Not mean just honest , they all need to go take a riding course or one of these days one of them will really get hurt

[@ThirstyFoe00]

Lmao ​@@SuperVettefan

[@billmoore7133]

I really doubt most people who have had a few real dirtbikes would not fit in that "anybody" catagory.

[@VdubSPAZ]

I'm sure somebody else has covered this but while you're putting in your axle bolts you should compress the shocks first before turning all the way up this make sure that the shocks are both equally in tune with one another and any unevenness is taken out of it I don't know how to explain it exactly but I'm sure if you KZbin it you will find the information in which I'm talking about but the front tire and of course when reinstalling a front wheel how to properly adjust your forks

[@ThirstyFoe00]

I think we need more riding videos and videos of you guys really twsting your builds, love the videos otherwise ❤ keep up the good work

[@raylarrow3102]

For Charles to get home for his family: classy, John. Well done. Much respect.

[@mckrackin5324]

The wreck looked like he front braked right on an above ground root running diagonal across the path. It took off sideways opposite the way the wheel was turned and a lot faster than a simple locked up wheel would cause. Bad timing and bad luck. Glad he's ok. Always be aware of the terrain when you hit the brakes. It's counter intuitive but sometimes, brakes are the wrong idea. Especially with those tiny slicks on wet ground.

[@riffdude347]

I got one of those engines in yamaha yz 250 1991, fully ported head (35mm intake port and you can see the top of the valve almost fully) , race cam and 34mm mikuni flatslide racing carb and it is pretty good

[@caseyfreeman3994]

That's not a hawg that's a piglet 😂

[@handsonwithblg4949]

New hope that I may be able to get something to ride again sooner than later . Gave my 94 Harley to my kid as I am getting older and didn't need a full bagger . Thanks guys !

[@exposingthetruth3821]

Grab one of the last years of fxr, probably be perfect.

[@ryankeul5690]

Well of course they're gonna love them, free plus a sponsor!!

[@ryankeul5690]

Sell out

[@CameronHarris1986]

Glad Charles is ok. I came off my 125 road bike in a similar way. I was braking and went over a wet metal drainage cover at low speed and boom, on the floor. Really does take the wind out of you.

[@Tacklebox455]

They look great and sound great,i would be curious to see how they do after 6 months or so of riding

[@Sa_r4]

They will last as long as a Honda BC it a clone of the Honda engine

[@jimmyjackass1805]

@@Sa_r4 No way in hell. Made with cheaper materials. The internals and fuel systems are cheap Chinese metal. No way these things are still kicking in 50 years like a ton of old Honda's. I bet inside 2 years they're in the scrap. If you ride them they won't last. It's a cheap entry level POS

[@Makermook]

I love this bike-in-a-box. I've bought and assembled two of them and haven't had a bit of trouble.

[@nedlyest]

Since they sent it as a promo bike, they tested and re packaged it. If your a regular guy ordering it you dont get the plastic wrap, battery installed so forth and so on.

[@Ramonatho]

The website literally had choices for whether you wanted it 80 percent or complete build but I guess reading ain't really your thing.

[@nedlyest]

@@Ramonatho apparently manners weren't you thing. Eat a Richard.

[@GemCityGypsy]

There are a bunch of actual Harley sportsters on the marketplace for 2-4k. I understand trying these out for content. You will be able to rebuild a Harley as many times as you would like with unlimited parts availability don't think that'll be easy with these.

[@johnlonnevik5917]

The red bike is so reminiscent of my 1975 Honda CB 400 Super Sport. The 400 was actually a 408; 102 cc per cylinder. I also had a 2003 883.Sportster that the Shadow reminds me of as well. Working on a 1999 Kawasaki Vulcan at present.

[@K.J.Ray421]

I was thinking of a 70's Honda CB 360 I heard when I was in HS. This engine sounds close to that at certain rpms. And the red one reminds me of my dad's 1968 Honda S90. We still have it, but it'd need new tires and a few other things. Also we could never find the right size battery back then in 1995. I'm sure now it's easier to find a custom size replacement for vintage bikes.

[@purebloodheretic4682]

Hey John, what's your opinion on the Kawasaki Vulcan vs the Harley Sportster? I'm currently looking at buying a 2003 Vulcan 800 - It is a budget bike but looks almost like a Harley Fatboy - I was also considering a Harley Sportster but they are pretty pricey down here in Australia - about $8k for an early 2000s 883 & 1200's are $10k minimum no matter the age it mileage - The Vulcan is $3k with only 33,000 Klms on it looks almost new, as far as Metric HD Clone goes It looks & sounds pretty authentic for a Metric Cruiser - it kind of even reminds me of an old Indian Chief - Old age has finally caught up with me, I've been riding Sports bikes for about 2 decades & now would like something more sedate & comfortable - Any advice appreciated - Cheers Paul 🇦🇺👍

[@johnlonnevik5917]

@@purebloodheretic4682 I bought my 2003 100th Anniversary commemorative 883 Sportster and rode it nearly every day for years. Some health issues prompted me to park it. My son and I made a deal on the bike so he could put a downpayment on a car (with the proviso that I could still ride it.) Ended up getting the Vulcan in a similar deal. Both the Sportster and the Vulcan have always been barked in an enclosed trailer while in my possession. I only rode the Vulcan a couple of times, but I fell in love with the beefiness, the sound, and the ride of the Vulcan over the Sportster. All of the turn signals were broken but the bike was never crashed. I want to make a Bobber out of it. What do you think?

[@johnlonnevik5917]

@@K.J.Ray421 I rode my 1975 CB400F from Los Angeles to San Francisco0 and back in one weekend. What a backbreaker but it was fast!

[@shaekeeney319]

I had a Magician Dual Sport bike that was more or less a clone of one of those. Same engine, chassis, similar suspension, and it was a very tossable and fun little bike. I swapped out the carb for a bigger Nibbi and put stiffer valve springs and a smaller rear sprocket and better exhaust on it and tightened the hardware and it was pretty good on the highway too. Have fun guys!

[@JoeBManco]

I wouldn't trade my Rebel 300 for one of these, but I sure wish Honda would have included a tachometer like the second one has.

[@john_barnett]

jfc Charles please be careful, you're one of my favourite parts of this channel and you got a family to support. take it easy!

[@FZ1RIDER]

I'm surprised and also impressed that it came with a nibbi carb. The majority of cheap bikes come with a horrible carb. The black one actually looks decent and seems like it would be a great starter bike for a new rider.

[@schoen88ss]

That thing is popping on deceleration. Bad tune or junk carb

[@kriswhite9324]

@@schoen88ssFellow nibbi carb owner here nibbi carbs are actually decent if you tune them right but they wont work well out of the box but once you get the jets and settings right then its a dream to ride ;)

[@isaiahpersonett8275]

The carburetor that’s on the bike is a high performance china carb. I have one on my Suzuki drz125 and it runs amazing. They help fuel mileage as well.

[@gregmoyers7757]

Have any of you ever seen a Harley Davidson? What you have there is a 1970s/1980s Honda clone.

[@JamesBurr-vk7kh]

I've got a 21' Titan 250 from XPro...it's not winning a motocross but loves tearing up trails... btw those nibb's carbs are pretty neat ...its cool it came stock !!

[@Greg1096]

Slightly concerning that such a slight lay down bent the axle, ive laid a few down in my life its easy to do on a non-optimal surface like that, feel like Charles tends to over think things and end up getting himself into trouble, if you have an issue riding something with a clutch keep getting on it till ya master it.

[@MatthewTheLion]

I've been waiting for a popular channel to review these great bikes. I personally love my 250 ghost

[@JohnHill-jm7tm]

WOW. What an awesome video. Bee a long time since this Old Man been on a bike. Always looking forward to seeing your videos ❤️. Love You Guys 🛵🌹💝💝💝

[@fabianreis3946]

brilliant video as always, I noticed John said at the start "you could make a go-kart out of that!" when he was talking bout the packaging, could you do that!? I think it would be great, love your videos!

[@nedlyest]

You could, I wouldnt go for anything big. I thought about making a 35cc weed whacker gokart for my 5yr old.

[@blankslate5981]

Love how much that seat was getting babied with the “hair net” Charles’ little “no!” Got me😂 12:05

[@ralphnorris-vk8ff]

Bought my first new harley when I was 14! My dad, my brother and me all had Harleys. Everything from 50cc to full dress electraglides. The best Harleys that were ever made was made in Italy!

[@DCTurza]

be interested to see a follow up vid on how well they actually last...alot of chinese products look ok, but dont last well

[@bananasEveryday]

I love watching Kurt Kobain and Billy Joel work on motorcycles!

[@billwilliamson9842]

pretty cool little bikes. If they were mine, first thing i'd do before I took them out, i'd put soem die electric grease on every contact/bulbs. I have a Harley xr1200 & Honda Monkey and still did this to them as well. I bet you do that, toss on some good chain and keep up on adjustments and maintenance and they'll last as long as anything else out there.

[@thagingerninjer5391]

They will not, in fact, last as long as anything out there.

[@billwilliamson9842]

@@thagingerninjer5391 oh wise wizard of knowledge, why is that? give specifics since you seem to have first hand knowledge after you bought some used hacked up china bike and couldn't get it to run again.

[@ERKNEES2]

Love how excited you guys were! Remember to always have fun and you guys are family! ❤

[@dalarreall]

That silent fall from Charles, got me really worried. Glad he's OK physically, can't say the same for the mental. I just hope he's not so hard on himself for this one.

[@Powercat46]

somebody needs to make Scrambler side pipes for these to give it the true 70's look.

[@carlowens3424]

Hard to find part for the old 500 is why and the pricing is outrageous as well

[@pollyg562]

i really enjoyed this vid wouldnt want to watch unboxing every episode but now and then is a treat

[@skel1tor945]

There’s two kinds of riders guys that have wrecked and guys that are going to wreck. You just need to become more comfortable riding and the only way you’ll do that is more riding. Great video guys.

[@Averagej82]

Those nibbi carbs are actually really easy to tune and work very well , I was skeptical about them until I put one on a pit bike totally different bike ! the decel pops are because it’s a bit lean.. richen them up save the exhaust valves from getting damaged and a lil more power too !! jet are easy to buy and easy to install

[@krisley5178]

I don't think you mentioned that those are LIFAN motors. Great engines. Also the Nibbi carbs are a nice touch. Those do very well. I really dig the 250 Dual Sport on their website. Good looking bike!

[@mostlymotorized]

43:44 speedo is already broken. Sitting at 10ph at a stop. Garbage

[@schoen88ss]

​@@mostlymotorized the popping on deceleration is what got me. That's not a good thing.

[@SportbikerNZ]

@@schoen88ss Not a valid concern. A few pops is perfectly fine.

[@spotopolis]

I bought that same red chopper from them earlier this year. Its been a great bike so far. Done some customizations to it to make it feel like mine.

[@lanewingerter5779]

Yall need to do a full cr 500 rebuild

[@seanheavner358]

They semi rebuilt one in a previous video

[@docholiday6944]

Glad you're okay Charles!!😊 thanks for the awesome video!! Be safe! 👊✌️❤️🤙🤙🤙

[@TreySlayPlay23]

A lot of the Chinese 250 carbureted engines. Like my Tao TB7 250cc dual sport Come with very small main jet and pilot jet not getting enough fuel. Bigger main jet will fix that. I only paid 1300 for mine.

[@murrayminimotors1674]

Definitely like the nibbi racing carburetor on that bike there great upgrades for the chinese engines!!

[@Rocketguy6969]

Whoever the new guy is, he is a blatant know it all. I dont know how you guys can stand to be around him.

[@daslynnter9841]

I bought a hawk 250 in november 2023, if this video had come out just two months earlier i wouldve went venom. everything ive seen by venom looks so much better for basically the same price. Not just build quality either, comfort, styling, just genuinely a better bike for road use like i need. think imma buy the ghost in a few weeks and sell my hawk.

[@ericwilkinson9447]

Now there's an AWESOME idea... Build a go cart out of the framing those came in!!!!!! Can u do it??? I double dog dare you 😂

[@ericwilkinson9447]

U got to now!! The challenge has been set😂

[@Ramonatho]

Cool idea! This is the kind of thing I would love to have a workshop to try.

[@gankylyfe9692]

Been waiting for a video all day! Keep up the good work boys

[@thebagnechannel3183]

I’m sure the manufacturer assembled and tested it first because there’s a high likelihood that if they did not, it might arrive broken.

[@thagingerninjer5391]

It probably still arrived broken, in some way they haven’t discovered yet.

[@VirginiaTombstoneRevival]

I recently sold my Ghost Chopper as I had grown out of it pretty fast, but it was definitely a fun little bike to learn on.

[@IosuamacaMhadaidh]

I've been looking at Chinese bikes a lot lately, the catch is don't buy unless you know how to or want to learn to work on it. I've been a Chinese moped/scooter rider for a while (daily ride) and have little issues but occasionally a catastrophic breakdown due to heat usually. There's always a shelf life for a small single, but the larger ones may last longer than two to three years of daily riding, especially if water cooled or installing an oil cooler.

[@timmypriddy8385]

I have a venom x22r and I love it. Bought it in April and rode it all summer. No issues. 250cc

[@crunchyfrog555]

I would fully expect as they're Chinese to be fine, and ride fine and so on. But after a few months you realise how shit the metallurgy is on a lot of things and that's when things start breaking.

[@tngtacticalmiata1219]

Yeah... When they actually bent the front axle just from laying it over.... I mean, it was a kinda hard hit... I've been down like that more times than I can count but, NEVER did ANY of the Japanese bikes I was riding ever bend an axle.... Now.... All that being said... Will they sell a metric butt load of them? Yes. Yes, they will.

[@Jomama1993]

Yeah but these are really sick bikes but these are what I would recommend a beginner to start on whether it be you teaching your girlfriend or your kids without braking the bank they're cheap to fix and so are the upgrades

[@PLAYERSLAYER_22]

@@Jomama1993that is how you reccomend people to their deaths. learn to ride, buy a real bike, and dont learn on the streets.

[@EUKBIKER]

You get what you pay for, a lot of chineseium bikes are fairly weak on parts, but often its parts that can be braced to make stronger or parts that can be swapped out for better parts. A lot of chinese bikes often under go full transformations and look nothing like stock after a year or two. I had a keeway superlight 125 as my first bike, good bike, but the chinese bits were rubbish. Ended up getting a full upgrade on every chinese part that was going to break and turned it into a fairly decent off road cruiser. Chain was replaced with DID heavy duty, Sprockets were JT custom heavy, forks were swapped for 125cc forks off a dirt bike, rear suspension got swapped out because it started to rust to off road rear suspension on both shocks, tyres were ultra hard off road tyres so never had to worry about punctures and engine had all electrics, plugs, spark caps and Cables replaced with NGK race 125 stuff and the head was replaced with a suzuki head as the engine was a suzuki clone. Power went from 10hp to about 14hp, not much but more than enough for that bike... Took it up a mountain, off road on dirt trails and even went through a river on it lol.

[@crunchyfrog555]

@@EUKBIKER Yes, I know you can swap out parts, but the point is ALL Chinese metallurgy is flawed. What do you think the engine is made out of? And the majority of the bike? This isn't me making stuff but from experience. I know a fair bit about China and the great leap forwards that spurred how Mao pushed people to start making metals and it never got taken up properly. And I also used to have to fix my eldest daughter's boyfriend (at the time) Chinese motorbikes he kept buying. It's endemic. You should perhaps look up cha bu duo.

[@waynerowlinson6177]

#1 - I'm glad Charles is OK. I've had a few spills over the years and it hurt just watching that. My first thought was that it was dumb using the bike in a situation it wasn't designed for, but 100% guarantee I would have rode the bike around the track myself, so I guess I'm just dumb too. After all the videos I've watched and had time to think about them, my favorite was when you to the CT-70s on a road trip. Time for another road trip please....

[@Hoggdoc1946]

No one at a biker bar is going to see those 250cc Chinese bikes as a Harley.

[@lonewolfandcub668]

Obviously not

[@crozwayne]

there is more Chinese content on a Harley than on these things 🤣🤣

[@SheDevilsGarage]

Exactly @ActivityPhoto

[@Ramonatho]

Harley used to make small engine flat trackers and scramblers that looked similar to these but posers will always make comments like op just did

[@Themaniacpirate]

I think it would fool a civilian

[@cracklingice]

Was glad to see they had some replacement parts, but with how many CDIs I've seen die, it's a bit disappointing to not see them on there. Nor clutches, coils, voltage regulator. (Sportster 250)

[@paulinebeckett2740]

Hey John who's that muppet in the black jacket ruining the video

[@chaplainsoffice6907]

Thanks for the memories boys .👍👍👍 My first road trip was 1968.

[@jasonjulian1]

I want to see the guys build an actual road bike from scratch. The mini bikes are great, but let’s see a C&C version of a Sportster or a custom chopper!

[@roryhovey7475]

I'm actually in the market for a motorcycle and would love to see how these perform over a long distance. Future video idea?

[@Mountainpageproductions]

Love how Ike has three times more experience than the guy that helps out yet he still try’s to tell him how to do his job didn’t like the vibes coming from him more like I know it all vibes he made sure to correct you like three times on the shipping weight bad vibes 😂❤

[@shark11175]

I agree, dude is annoying af

[@flyingtoothpick712]

i'm glad Charles is okay. we've all been there and we're all glad hes doing good. I have to agree with you on the agility and fun of these little 250 Chinese bikes, I have a 2012 rps hawk 250 and it is the easiest bike ive ridden because of the agility, and smoothness of it. it was a good beginner and awesome all around, just isnt quite powerful enough to go the speed limit (55-75mph) on most of the roads near me.

[@user-cf3wm5zn7e]

I agree. I have a 2021 hawk 250. It is a great beginner bike if your not afraid to put a wrench to it. I just wish it had a sixth gear.

[@justincase8239]

If you blow the Ghost up, I'd like to see if you can fit a Predator V-Twin in it.

[@HFV_Junkyardin]

670 swap would be hilarious. But one of those military boxer 4s would be epic.

[@JonathanWhoever]

Charles's quotes are great

[@pks41805]

Do I detect a bit a drama?

[@3generation_racing658]

wow, charles that looked like a hard spill and it happened so fast. glad your ok buddy!

[@Thegreatestbusdriver]

Why hasn't Charles been gifted a bike?

[@PhillipMikeHunt]

The front tire is on backwards. The tread pattern is meant to push debris and water outwards when braking. The orientaion here on the red bike will build up debris in the centre under brakes and cause loss of traction. The rear tire is designed to push debris away under acceleration. Front is reversed for braking.

[@tims_builds]

It does show on this one that y'all were sponsored by the company on this one. Those welds are functional, not particularly nice. They aren't that fast. They'll be nightmares to find parts for when something breaks. I'd take a used Honda over that all day

[@DouglasKiper-wf5ru]

Wow the axle even got bent must be made of Chinese yum

[@Tron1731]

You should remove the amature rider from your channel street bikes are for the street daaaa

[@EpicForeverFriends]

Doesn't matter what you ride but what puts a smile on you face!

[@russhartle7517]

I think charles better stick to things with 4 wheels. He seems unlucky on the 2 wheel variety, lol

[@billmoore7133]

He's not good.

[@thagingerninjer5391]

Just needs to learn to be easy on the front brakes.

[@rong4189]

Glad you’re OK Charles, that had ‘collar bone’ written all over it! Super cool bikes! I’d be sooo tempted to paint the ‘Chopper’ up like an old CB, may be some CB style ’close enough’ chrome fenders, Honda badges and all, who cares! lol

[@kylemcgee7825]

You layed the bike down because you went to pull the clutch and instead pulled the front brake and it went down quick.

[@Brrrap743]

That's the same engine on my hawk 250. You'll need to adjust the valves frequently. And also left you right at the first time you're going to realize you're going to want to go and tighten every bolt on that bike before you ride. And then probably every couple thousand miles after that I would check it again

[@extremecheddarswityomom]

Seriously guys, its better content with just the 3 of you. Yalls chemistry together is great and yall just click...add the ginger and issac and charles arent their usual selves, especially issac. I feel his toes being stepped on.

[@daniellargey8430]

A clone of a motorcycle but I do not see a clone of a Harley as I know them to be, reminds me of a time I had an old bike I had in the late 70's Yamaha Rd 60 2 stroke that I sort of made improvements on if one can call it that. tossed dirt bike bars on it, longer rear shocks, and knobby tires I was in the wind during high school. I used it as a trail bike and knew a bunch off roading trails I may get one of these, tossing it about maybe the red one. Looks like fun, at an age when the big Suzuki 1500 V Twin is getting a bit of a chore to move at low speeds.