Carson Brown is racing a YZ250 TWO-STROKE at Washougal National! - Motocross Action Magazine

[@johnnydsworld710]

Carson Brown is one of the most underrated privateers out there. This kid is the real deal. Not only he is a down to earth genuine person, he rips on everything from a pit bike to a CR500. This kid deserves a decent ride and more TV time when he is up there battling with the big names. CB910... You go kid!

[@premix3663]

Matt Burkeen has been killing it on a yz250 for a few of the nationals he gets more cheers than most the top 450 riders going by.

[@joshmosiman1955]

Yes he has! Matt and I go way back to our amateur days of racing and I had planned to interview him and even said that at 4:40 in the video that I was going to try to find more two-stroke riders but I couldn't track Matt down in time. We were all busy and he didn't get my message looking for him until after he left

[@maverick2242]

It’s all about the 2 stroke, check out this dude killing 4strokes at National level in Denmark, legend. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYvJlWyLp714rdk

[@robertbutler1174]

@@joshmosiman1955 1

[@Tew730]

yeah and they stopped making 2 strokes so they could develop a electric start motor cause we all know having a starter on a bike saves weight

[@greenmachine2573]

@@joshmosiman1955 EXCELLENT INTERVIEW Josh! 👏👍 I have always enjoyed, admired and respected Carson and his bevy of 2 stroke beauties. His 2003-2005 KX 125 is 💚🔥💯💎🍒... This video, interview and YZ 250 💙🔥 REVS MY 💚💙 heart!

[@dr00andrew]

him and burkeen be duking it out on them 2 stroke yzs. its so rad to see japanese manufactured 2 strokes racing ama sactioned events again!!

[@obiron2099]

Right! Why's he talking like brown is the only one... the industry is so ridiculous with its coverage. It's getting better but, still not where it should be. Well he did mention it at the very end

[@vincentbarrios3527]

Burkeens vlogs hit super hard too and nobody even knows

[@trevornelsonofficial]

@@obiron2099 we tried to film Matt and squeeze him in the video as well but unfortunately scheduling conflicts plus bad reception at Washougal don't really mix. Carson and Matt were going to be the highlights of the video and we're hoping to squeeze Matt into the next weekly vid

[@obiron2099]

@@trevornelsonofficial you're efforts are appreciated greatly! I do apologize for jumping to conclusions.

[@trevornelsonofficial]

@@obiron2099 no worries 👍🏻

[@paulocorreia8976]

Will never get used to 4 strokes. Long live the sweet 2 stroke sound.

[@reedgalbraith6508]

But you will only hear it as he gets lapped..

[@Tew730]

electric start on the bikes what a bunch of nonsense if you cant kick start it find a different hobby

[@Jimmy_Watt]

@@reedgalbraith6508 With artificial inflation already hitting everyone hard, these simpler bikes that are 90% as fast, and far cheaper and easier to work on, make far more sense for most regular people.

[@bradsanders6954]

@@reedgalbraith6508 Carson got 15th. Lots of 4 strokes get lapped also.

[@reedgalbraith6508]

@@bradsanders6954 Yes they do.. never said they didn't.. I said the only time you will hear it is when he gets lapped.

[@highschooljohnny]

Carson Brown is such a great guy and talented rider. Lets go!!!!!

[@maverick2242]

Hell yeah Carson Brown! One of the few guys that can actually ride a 2 stroke properly, lines choices, correct gear, corners, love seeing it, rooting for him fer sure…props to his sponsors, go the 2 stroke, go the fans, top 15 Carson, twist it and grip it, keep it pinned…🤘🏆

[@claytonsmoothy314]

Props to MXA for covering this even though it's a competing magazines name on the bike, awesome!!

[@rostifardian]

Dirt Bike and Motocross Action are sister magazines. Dirt Bike covers the sport more generally, between GNCC, and Hare and Hound series etc. Motocross Action obviously motocross. But they’re both owned by Hi-Torque publications.

[@slagletoby]

Love the microphone! Good luck Carson I’ll be screaming at my TV cheering you on.

[@oakey67]

2 strokes attract fans and media! Hope he can rip this thing into next year. Fucking awesome bike

[@shawnhorne9296]

Best of luck 👍 Carson keep it on 2

[@jeffschaller1562]

Best of luck Carson. It will be great seeing you ride a YZ250. I watched you race at Dino Daze this past June and was very impressed as well as entertained.

[@Moto-kp2jt]

Matt Burkeen has been qualifying straight to the main on his 2 smoke YZ this year.

[@therealbanksea]

Hell yeah CB an the bbr team... respect from Australia

[@JustEdit22]

That thing was so fun to watch and he did pretty good on it to

[@leeham273]

Watching this guy at Grays Harbor ORV and Riverdale is a treat. Dude shreds so hard. I dont know how someone can go that fast all the time lmao

[@Chad-scoots]

They should be a loud to race it in the 250 class

[@BobSmith-cb5xr]

Agreed. They are far more equal to 250 fourstrokes at this time than they are a 450.

[@ericlaney8893]

@@BobSmith-cb5xr if you know how to use the gears and power band on a 2 stroke you can be faster then a 450 the 2 strokes don't get as good of traction as a 4 that's about the only thing different

[@BobSmith-cb5xr]

@@ericlaney8893 I know what you mean. I love riding both and if you're on a fairly open track and can stay on the pipe a properly built 250 smoker will run with a 450 all day, they just take alot more effort to do so.

[@Duppavich]

I wish this kid all the best. He seems super cool and man can he RIDE!

[@mikedillman2761]

Crisp....you can hear how crisp it is in the video...Get 'em dude, make em know who they are racing!!

[@morley3810]

If only the AMA would LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE

[@bradsanders6954]

AMA listens to the manufacturers . 4 strokes are the plan.

[@marksmith402]

I'm an Old Man, but still just love, Love, LOVE THIS!!!!! Pin It Carson and Matt!!

[@Rimraz]

That is crisp!!

[@mikebrown41182]

I wonder this is the RV spec engine, similar to what Pingree had PC built for him. The pipe is, but no carbon silencer on the rear, thus the only difference between the regular 304 is simply the material. Anyway so nice to see people riding them at the nationals. Best of luck to Carson 👍🏼.

[@garysavala665]

Everybody support these guys that are doing it

[@TheFox2racing]

Totally agreed dude. 2 Strokes RULE 4 strokes drool !!!!👍👍😎

[@mharcanthonybernabe3813]

just had goosebumps hearing that crispy enine revs danng!!

[@BilkoMX124]

SSS forks are amazing, best fork out the box. They were way ahead of their time in 2006.. light years ahead of WP's AER 48 forks, or explorer, whatever they call that these days. Which for an air fork it's really good, especially when it gets loamy and deep. Almost feels like a good spring fork, but no where close to SSS. I race local A class and I can just adjust the dampening, rebound, and high/low speed on the shock (after setting sag) and its better than the majority of other forks I've rode with that have been sent off to my local suspension guy, which he used to be a suspension guy at the top level and still works for Dunlop at the nationals and supercross. He did my YZ, basically built to the equivalents of a good B-Kit and I'll tell you, I'd put that set up against anything else. I've rode yamaha's for 20 years befire switching to a KTM factory edition, I'm going back to yamaha and either getting a 250F, or building a YZ300 2 stroke again like my last one. But if you do a big bore 2 stroke you have to get a vortex ignition so you'll maintain the top end, otherwise you'll gain abunch of bottom but lose some mid and so much on top to where it doesnt even feel rideable. A lot of people don't know that which is why big bores used to get such a bad wrap. Here was my build. Started as a 2020 YZ250, 300 big bore kit that was sent off to Eric Gorr for port n polishing, a vortex ignition, Fat head with a custom insert, lighter connecting rod, balance the crank (kept stock crank), a Bills cone pipe with a shorty, port and polish the carb, V-force 4 Reed Block, loudmouth intake with holes drilled and filtered into the airbox, heavier flywheel, Rekluse or Hinson clutch to handle the extra power and abuse, at minimum run VP T-2 fuel or preferably VP110. You won't be able to run pump gas, it'll cause detonation, had it be re-jetted and I also had my transmission tumbled just so it was more precise and odds of hitting false neutral or actual neutral were drastically decreased. Depending on the track i addrd 1-2 teeth to the rear sprocket (don't go with a heavier O-ring chain, you'll lose top, a Z-ring feels more like a light stock chain with the benefits of an O-ring but very expensive) and you'll have a 4 stroke killer...I raced it againt 250F's locally, they won't check or care that it was a 300 🤣. I also bought a blown up KTM robbed and rebuilt the front master cylinder and caliper with an oversized braking rotor, braided steel lines, pads that were more grabby but I can't remember who made them..since brembo takes different type of fluid i ran fully synthetic fluid with high boiling point..then re sold the KTM for what I paid for it. You do have to run a different front wheel and make a custom mount/bracket to make it work, i had to have help getting it to work. I kept the rear brake stock, I do 90% of my braking with the front and love it to be grabby but the rear was good enough, i just added a larger disc and changed to braided steel line, and cap to hold more fluid. The Nissan doesn't over heat as easily, ive boiled several brembo systems riding woods. Then of course the B-kit level suspension. It also had a stock linkage knuckle just lighter weight and polished aluminum, but you could change the pull rod length which I loved and I put Luxon triple clamps which are split like X-trig but they're lighter, stronger, it turned easier and provided a much better feel and more feedback without the drawbacks you normally get when people talk about feed back from the front end. I think I'm one of the few guys who like running a step seat these days, I rarely see them anymore. The rest of the bike was either powder coated black or cerakote magnesium color for the brakes and engine cases for that factory look. I'm going to do the same build again but I may try a different throttle tube cam so it's a 1/4 turn. For any 2 stroke, rubber bar mounts, good grips, and bar inserts are a must for vibration. If you're building an engine balance the crank while you're in there. I had a CR500AF conversion but preferred my 300, the vibration of a 500 will give you arm pump quick lol. And you gotta do a bolt check everytime you take a break

[@infinitemonkeycage3010]

Man that was a sick breakdown! Thanks for writing all that down haha

[@goinhot9133]

Can’t beat the sound, feel & nimbleness of a 250 smoker.

[@fatboy2smoker841]

This is what the world needs!!!

[@ralphmiller986]

My fly out there just to hear that thing. Love the 2 strokes

[@fullnoyz]

Fans are into it so are the sponsors because they see fans spending money 👍

[@sumpter737]

Sounds amazing!! Good luck ✊🏼✊🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@andrewmarshall360]

Sweet bike!

[@rubenjimenez5213]

Brown is an awesome rider wish him the best, and yes bring the 2T back 💪💪👍👍

[@the500dollabilz2]

How is it possible that he hasn’t already signed with a team for supercross and outdoors. He beat all the AEO guys every round of supercross. He needs a ride

[@goldmx1229]

Awesome we love this 200% ❤️💪🏻

[@_WatsoBrii94_]

AMA and feld need to rewrite the rules and allow ccs to be matched by number and not worry about displacement. 250 2 strokes 250fs 300+ 2 strokes with 450s

[@TheFox2racing]

Ditto on that I totally agree dude let it be apples to apples instead of oranges to apples 250 2 Strokes against 250f 4 strokes & 300 possibly even 350 and even 400 2 Strokes against 450 4 strokes making it more fair not a 250cc advantage. AMA and Field Sports/ Monster Energy need to get their heads out of their ASS and give the fans what they want and let more privateers and the normal Joe's compete at the highest level and not break the bank "Grassroots". It was fine in 97 & 98 when they made an exception to let Yamaha and Doug Henry compete on a YZ 400 against 250 2 strokes with 150cc advantage and not the other way around cuz there in bed with Honda , Kawasaki and Suzuki and they refuse to make a big bike (IE: 125 , 250 even 300 2 Strokes anymore even though the KTM group sells more 2 Strokes then Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki combined sell 4 strokes. 👍 I know this is a pipe dream but probably a good 50 to 60% of people would pay big money if Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki started making modern 2 Strokes again like the KTM group (IE: KTM , Husqvarna, GasGas) Thank you Yamaha for being the only Japanese brand continuing to make 2 Strokes and the KTM group for continuing to modernize and evolve 2 Strokes. 👍 2 Strokes have a lot less moving parts keeping it simple stupid & easier to work on 👍 2 Strokes RULE 4 strokes drool !!!! 🤣😅🤪😱😬👍😎

[@bradsanders6954]

The manufacturers need the 4 strokes to win easily, there's good money in constantly rebuilding expensive 4 stroke engines.............a 250 2 stroke might even get a 5th place racing 250 4 strokes. They cant chance it.

[@_WatsoBrii94_]

@@bradsanders6954 I’m sorry but I’m biasly as well as confidently saying 250 smoker with 250f def top 5 podium fighting for sure but I def agree with your point

[@bradsanders6954]

@@_WatsoBrii94_ I would like to think so also. 4 strokes have had non stop development for years now, what if 2 strokes had had that much tech and work put into them? Build a civilized 450cc 2 stroke and it could work...........250 just run 250 against 250 2 or 4 stroke............it would be a big hit with spectators.

[@georgecarmel6114]

Excellent microphone!

[@dillonroe7471]

Need more of this

[@philosborn1840]

I like your microphone handle 👍🏻 🇨🇦🇺🇸

[@Kawiboy]

Let's GO CB910 😉👊 👍 Love the mic Josh 😆👊 OLD G 😃

[@joshuaman1126]

My Man, wouldn’t have it any other way….Two stroke all the way. Love them….have had both four and two…two stroke carbureted is the way to go…simple, no dumb electrical problems

[@slp2538]

Hell yeah!!!! Go CB 910!!!! 🤘

[@castirondreams]

Letssss Goooo!! Yard the wire and give em hell!👊✊✊✊💨💨💨

[@JohnHowerton137]

He’s such a good kid.

[@johnpena9165]

Supercross and the outdoor nationals need to dump the four strokes and bring back the two stroke 250s and 125s before the electric motocross bikes take over !

[@aaron337]

Digging the wrench mic

[@dinorichetti]

2 Strokes 4 Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@timw4369]

thats the sound of motocross not these overhyped 4 strokes. Great looking and sounding bike.

[@TheFox2racing]

Amen brother so true 😎☝️👍👍

[@Whiplover105]

He should race in the 250 class, not in the 450.... Anyway, keep the 2 stroke alive Carson!!! ✊🏻✊🏻😉💪🏻💨💨

[@Bruce.Wallace]

Hell yeah !!!

[@travisconover4762]

That bike is so cool. I love it.

[@Machetehandy]

That thing sounds so good

[@MichaelF1026]

bike sounds so crispy

[@tysonsullivan7837]

I Raced a 03 when everyone was going to to 450 s , I still pulled hole shot and won in 03 , Go Bring it Brother Yz s hull ass .!!

[@justmee9441]

It will SOUND cool...but won't make the podium. 4 strokes have too much linear power

[@reedgalbraith6508]

Yeah we might hear it as it's getting lapped

[@perrykamieniecki8810]

Nice.Best of luck to you.

[@callmetito]

Oyeaaaaah 2 stroke 😍

[@harryharris5454]

Brown is awesome but let’s get Burkeen some exposure. Dude has been absolutely killing it

[@lakeloon]

Sounds sick! ✊🏽

[@francisguerrero3240]

GET IT CARSON👍😎🤙

[@jimgoose9146]

Crisp as a frosty morning with an ice cold pot of beer on your mind !!

[@rowieg2172]

Yeah baby top 10

[@rtimetoride7645]

Go Get Em!

[@jakeshuster6783]

that bike was sounding good.

[@TheKitchenTechnician]

What I was hoping to hear was how it compares power and weight wise to the 450’s.

[@reecetbobby5347]

18th overall. Not bad!

[@stevencunningham4680]

I noticed that your bike didn't smoke one bit when you started it up. What brand of oil do you use in your premix and what ratio do you mix it at ?

[@leeirwindrums2765]

Can’t wait to here that thing scream

[@Doc-zg3xm]

Love it.

[@andrewjck1]

MATT BURKEEN!

[@taholahnativeriders325]

Awesome shred em kid !

[@jeffdacey4673]

How does this kid not have a ride

[@Staticay]

Because in my opinion, as talented as he obviously is, he is to focused on the whole keeping 2 strokes alive and making videos on his private track while he should be trying to progress his speed as much as possible. Factory teams don't care about keeping 2 strokes alive and how many people subscribe to you. Would love to see how he does if he decides to really try and be the best

[@ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE]

Very cool, lets see what gives!

[@MrHabitat009]

LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOO!!!

[@rex.d4810]

2strokes- Make Motocross Great Again!

[@Corteum]

Can we get a 350 2-stroke w/ 65hp

[@angrysweet8932]

Yeeeeeesssss !

[@exitstageleft12b]

Alright maybe they will have a two stroke class or mix them with the fours!

[@cotyshotyou]

I thought they *do* mix with 450 class?

[@harm97]

Thats not the normal PC pipe🤩wow

[@m3hsid10]

How does that thing have zero smoke coming out of the exhaust? My two stroke cleans up fairly well after it is warm but never looks that clean. Maybe the camera doesn't pick up the smoke? Idk.

[@TraviNomotion]

Probably got some absolute magic done with the jetting and mix

[@medjoolmaker]

Still don’t understand why 250 two strokes don’t race in 250 4stroke class.

[@antfal-n-everything7154]

Because they get the hole shot and win the 250 class, making the 250 four strokes look like shit boxes

[@WIREDin1]

That mic is sick lmao

[@pumkinbreath]

I heard that sound

[@Michael-zo8me]

How can I donate to the 2-stroke Cause ?😁

[@justmee9441]

Ride one!

[@dag681]

This will be fun to see!! Love a 2 stroke on the pipe. As a former motocross rider, turned EMTB rider,, will say that it will be awesome when the racing bikes are all electric. Instant power, quiet, whole new sounds and vibes with be there for fans and riders. Right now, I ride a de-restricted peddle assist in the woods, and it feels like it's illegal, it is so much stealthy fun.

[@themoonman9626]

Oh you mean like MATT BURKEEN!

[@davebrunette6394]

😎

[@_rebel12_]

Why not race it in the 250 class??

[@ML-lg4ky]

What’s the HP on this beast?

[@bradsanders6954]

50 HP or slightly more for a really good 250 YZ.

[@howardwoods342]

Love how they have to limit the 2 stroke to make it fair. So stupid. 2 strokes are the best. 2 smoke for life

[@bradsanders6954]

No kidding. They made the rule over 20 years ago about 2 strokes needing to be handicapped by size. What the hell would be wrong with running 250 strokes against 250 4 strokes? Its not like they would dominate at all.

[@JamesSmith-xn5zb]

I'm confused why don't they run a 250 2 stroke in a 250 class instead of a 125? Lol

[@5elevenfirewood195]

A two stroke motor has more displacement per cc than a 4 stroke. So a 250 two stroke is very equivalent in power to a 450 4 stroke. The 2 stroke motor is much more efficient in the power to size ratio

[@siaknijustin]

@@5elevenfirewood195, a two stroke 250 has exactly the same displacement as a 250 four stroke. 250cc is the displacement! AMA rules are the only reason that there isn’t parity between 2 and 4 stroke. When the rules were implemented, the AMA severely handicapped the two stroke in order to give the OEMs incentive to develop their 4 stroke engines. At that time the 2 stroke had much better performance per CC than the 4 stroke. This is no longer the case and the rules should favor parity.

[@5elevenfirewood195]

@@siaknijustin wrong bud the only reason 4 strokes were developed were EPA rules and more mechanic cost

[@vaughanhodgson]

@@siaknijustin your right a 250t has no business in a 450 class its so underpowered the 250f factory bikes will probably put more power down than his 250t

[@rockstarbmf9595]

@@vaughanhodgson lol you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about

[@stevenfields4740]

So did Matt burkeen 🤷‍♂️

[@sburns2421]

It must be that the manufacturers do not want to support the two-strokes, because changing the rules to allow 300cc or 325cc two-strokes against the 450s just seems too obvious to generate new interest in the sport.

[@bradsanders6954]

Its as simple as allowing any 250cc bike to race other 250cc bikes....the 450 class would need a bigger than 300 2 stroke. Only KTM would build such a niche bike.

[@robertrishel3685]

Too bad he cannot race it in the 250 class where it belongs🤬

[@Tew730]

FULL SHRED Carson you can do it must be nice for yamaha to send a bike to pro circuit and have them trick it out so you can ride -then there are the factory riders that say their bike setup is slightly off and have to change this or that clearly i think its all bull win or shut up mr factory rider

[@jimgoose9146]

Bring back the 500s . Bung diddy bung bung

[@Corteum]

Why didn't he just race it in the 250 class? Why race it against 450's?

[@scottpella7419]

That sure doesn't sound like a 250. LOL I'd bet that bike is a big bore. I hope it does great on it!!

[@bradsanders6954]

Over 20 years since 4 strokes were shown to be the dominant bike, no contest.................there is no way in hell a 250 2 stroke can be allowed to race with a 250 4 stroke..............even the slightest chance of a 2 stroke being competitive cant be considered...............sure the crowd would love it and it would draw much interest. Cant be done. ...there is good money in the constant rebuilding of 4 strokes.

[@jessesdomain444]

And its pricing dudes that cant afford to maintain a high compression 4t out of the sport since the 2000s

[@bradsanders6954]

@@jessesdomain444 I know. Friends who bought into 4 stroke trailbikes suck it up for one or two rebuilds, then comes the crank replacement, then the head is shot, meanwhile the valves are always wearing out....................its as much a pain in the ass as it is a boatload of money. Nobody wants to buy a used up 4 stroke............ guys just buy a new bike every year to avoid all this.......................its only money. 10K is a drop in the bucket.

[@hphillips7425]

I hate they ever started running 4/ strokes

[@GearheadRob319]

I havent even seen the race yet.. but id bet he didnt even finish in top 20 in main. 2 strokes have no where near broad powerband of a 4 strokes..

[@bradsanders6954]

He aimed for top 15 and got 15th....they dont have a main they have 2 motos.

[@GearheadRob319]

@@bradsanders6954 racer x said he was on a yz 250f. Not a 2 smoke. And I know they have 2 motos. I was thinking supercross that's all.

[@bradsanders6954]

@@GearheadRob319 Carson was riding the 2 stroke pictured in the story. YZ250.

[@GearheadRob319]

@@bradsanders6954 well, he's impressive then. Had he rode a yz450f he probably could have got top 8. I'm just saying, no one will ever convince me a 2 stroke is a better bike to race. Back in the 90s I use to race amateur 125s and 250 2 strokes. Then owned a few mid 2000 4 strokes. And the 4 strokes were way more of a powerhouse with never ending torgue. People can ride what they want, but if I was a younger man again, I'd give myself every advantage at my disposal to win. And that would be on a 4 stroke. Love em or hate em.

[@123bbm]

I would like to know what rationale or reasoning if any, could AMA have possibly been using to think that you have to ride a 250 2 stroke in the 450 class and not the 250 class. And even worse, you have to ride a 125 in the 250 class. How can this be considered by any sane person that this has any fairness at all? It's just ridiculous that the AMA could possibly make up a rule like this, it's insane and asinine. If the four strokes are so much better why can't they race heads up against the two-stroke? Is it the manufacturers that want to sell the more expensive, more expensive to maintain, more expensive to repair 4 strokes and not sell the far less expensive two-stroke which ultimately makes them much more money? And AMA knowingly does this on purpose with no reasoning at all. As Carson said, he gets no interest until he mentions two-stroke and then they get real interested. It would be the same thing with racing fans, they would want to view and attend the races much more if two strokes were involved more. Plus if a 250 2 stroke was allowed in the 250 class a privateer would have a much better chance of competing for much less money involved. And if a larger 2 stroke were allowed in the 450 class, it could also be much more competitive for much less money for a privateer. But typical AMA, 50 years of doing it wrong. Just like the MAV TV crap!