“Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan”

DBS Broly isn't the Legendary Super Saiyan and that 's a good thing because Goku is in Dragon Ball Z.
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[@CarthusDojo]

There's a lot of misinformation in the comments so I'm going to make full video going over EVERY "legendary" Super Saiyan. Make sure you sub to see it :)

[@BCCSquidward]

*Goku giving Vegeta a thumbs up at the end of the Buu Saga* 👍

[@ilikethings-b4z]

I'm curious if carthu would do a video about cooler being cannon

[@epicrgg]

Skibidi toilet

[@ZakariaM16]

Question, Is Broly's Golden Hair Form His SSJ And Ikari Forms Combined or Is His Green Hair Form The Combination of SSJ And His Ikari Form??

[@veryepoc6949]

Happy new year

[@kingbowserchannel1585]

I wonder if Toriyama is like looking down at us: "Guys... its not that deep."

[@captaindoom1]

😂😂😂💯

[@user-ql8ir1mb2b]

He definitely is. I find it funny that all these KZbinrs make up all these crazy theories and label them as fact 😂

[@DripRN699]

But he’s right the movies are filler

[@RyanBurnsRed]

These kind of debates have been going on for years. It’s like the Star Wars debates, and George Lucas is still around

[@giulianomamane897]

Looking down from where?🤣🤣🤣

[@G4m3r-pr099]

The real legendary super saiyan is the friends we made along the way

[@Randomergoesbrrrr]

Truly

[@Fireball006]

The real legendary super saiyan is friends who died along the way (basically everyone at some point)

[@joprothenoob2374]

The real one piece is the adventure and the friends we made along the way

[@abrarfaiyaz6503]

Speak for yourself

[@SenCrypto.]

Amen

[@QURAN_ON_SHORTS]

“It is a super saiyan bargain sale” -Vegeta

[@weebotaku9200]

😂😂😂😂😂😅

[@chillchinna4164]

Said the bargain bin super saiyan.

[@mikitadou]

"Says the non-super saiyan"

[@Totallyoffical-lego_broly]

It’s funny how in heroes it’s now a ssj3 bargain sale

[@Siris43982]

Hey vegeta... Nice shirt

[@Ghostguy693]

I'm 99% sure Super Broly's Full Power form has been called "Legendary Super Saiyan" in media, and I will keep calling him that until the day I die.

[@mbusox]

Yesss

[@legendarywolverine5529]

It's literally called Full Powered Super Saiyan. Never been called Legendary for this iteration at all. Where'd you get that from?

[@acidity5184]

@@legendarywolverine5529 xenoverse 2 quests refer to him as the legendary super saiyan, case closed

[@legendarywolverine5529]

@@acidity5184 No it's not. For one. Toriyama himself before he passed said he wasn't the legendary super Saiyan and said it was Full Power Super Saiyan and Xenoverse is the only game that says that for hype and nothing more. You cannot base your opinion and preference on a game when the literal creator said otherwise as well as every other source of dragon ball media besides Xenoverse.

[@brianjackson3031]

I thought it was Yamoshi?

[@dragonkingoscurare1092]

Broly green haired form is one of those times, I'm happy the staff didn't listen to Toriyama-sensei and added it anyways to canon.

[@drakktv1471]

Yes but no, because the film isn't canon

[@bvdf84]

​@@drakktv1471it's more of an easter egg type of things everything else is canon but that specific part is only there to make you go "oh hey i get i know what this means yes they know i watch their movies!" Which is something iove im glad they added it

[@ProjectN-0]

@@drakktv1471but the new movie is canon also in the tournament of power vegeta said something about kale seeing her transformation

[@patootie3529]

​@@drakktv1471 lol what? all DBS movies are canon. toriyama is heavily involved in its writing, or entirely. the DBZ movies aren't canon simply because he only designed some of the characters concept art, but not written, but he wrote the DBS movies and that's why they are fitted in the storyline of the DBS anime/manga and why when Broly shows up, everyone already knows who he is

[@jasonone8726]

Broly doesn't have that form in the manga version.

[@yeah_definitely]

So technically Broly is closest to SSJ4?

[@azimuddin1890]

Yee

[@GroillaMan]

Pretty much the canon version of ssj4

[@dragonslayer10000]

@@GroillaMan golden oozaru but if he controls it you could consider it ssj4

[@mbulut9896]

Yeah, if he controls his ssj form than he will become ssj4

[@azimuddin1890]

@@GroillaMan Well Super’s version of S.S-J.4, yee

[@DDBruh-gq4bu]

Shoutout CodeNameSuper for this line, “Bro is built like Bane and moves like Spider-Man. Bro is a walking cheat code

[@HoodVOCartoons]

Yup! 😂

[@zkael5387]

Agreed

[@asdghaith]

U could’ve just said Hulk but ok

[@KAY4ZZ]

@@asdghaith tf you talm about bro…

[@Daheg-nr7ol]

⁠@@asdghaithwat ta fak r u talaking bout mian

[@Fireball006]

From what I understand his normal black haired rage mode is called Ikari as he is essentially using the oozaru without transforming, and when he goes super saiyan his hair turns gold like normal but when he uses both Ikari and super saiyan it becomes the green haired form

[@BosnaBG]

My theory using this 2 together was the first legendary ssj

[@matthewdev]

His base is still absurdly strong, oozaru + ssj would get him just a bit above a hypothetical ssj3 Broly

[@egotto]

@@matthewdevif thats the case goku should have been able to beat him in blue. I feel Like Broky’s ceiling is theoretical like hulk. The angrier he gets the stronger and bigger he gets. They had to go potara blue to clap him.

[@matthewdev]

@egotto yeah, there's clearly something else about his scaling than just oozaru + ssj, otherwise anything below ssb gogeta wouldn't have even touched him

[@Captainjamaica23]

You’re actually spot on bro, if you rewatch the movie you’ll see that he has blond hair when fighting Gogeta and then he explodes n then his hair turns green so you’re 100% right

[@JT-km6th]

OG Broly when he went into his lgendary form was an absolute menace 😂 remember when he pump faked the slaves into thinking he would kill them but instead annihilated their planet?

[@brotbrotsen1100]

Well they didn't said the safe word

[@KidouKenshi22]

a classic

[@BuzzedtheTower]

OG Broly was truly something else. Him just tanking Goku's point blank Kamehameha and just punching the fuck out of Goku was insane

[@PruppetMaster]

That's only in abridged dude😆 get off KZbin and actually watch the real movies lmao

[@BuzzedtheTower]

@@PruppetMaster What? That happened in the real movie

[@noobcool1659]

That doesn’t explain how he’s like an anomaly which gains an insane amount of z cells.

[@hoshiryu]

DBS Broly is a Mutant. Like Frieza and Cold are Mutants in their Race

[@Jehovahswitnesss]

That's what Legendary Super Saiyans all are ​@@hoshiryu

[@AtomicFlounder42]

People keep getting the legendary super saiyan and the legend of the super saiyan mixed up. Goku realized the legend of the super saiyan, broly is THE legendary super saiyan. It's a different form, I think official called super saiyan full power rage, but thats dumb as fuck, and legendary super saiyan along side super saiyans is way better

[@MikaelAureus]

S Cells*

[@Shayan_Jawed410]

​@@AtomicFlounder42this name isn't used to homage goku in frieza saga cuz he is the legend that awakens by furry after 1000 years and you can't take that title from him he is the LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN

[@CrimsonViruz]

Goku is the Super Saiyan of the legends. Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan. There is a difference.

[@23Raind]

Goku is not the super sayain of "the legends". The legend of the super saiyan just describes a unique type of sayain warrior born every thousand years. Goku isn't that sayain and there are no legends among the dead sayain civilization that were about him.

[@CrimsonViruz]

@@23Raind the entire Frieza saga they talked a lot about the legend of the super Saiyan. There was even a flashback of her blowing up planet Vegeta because of that paranoia. When Vegeta was fighting freezer, he kept mentioning on the legendary super Saiyan. For the legendary, super Saiyan, they were mentioned it in the manga, and of course, in the dragon Ball super movie with Broly about a scene that can be born with extremely high power level hence the legendary super Saiyan. So there is a difference. The original Broly movie is not Canon, but they mentioned it there as well. Vegeta himself was too scared to fight through most of the movie. And by the way, you mentioned how a super saying happens once every thousand years. That’s not correct. the correct information is that a super Saiyan had not happened in about 1000 years so it became a legend that the Saiyans talked about a lot.

[@23Raind]

@@CrimsonViruz That's not correct, they hadn't seen a legendary super sayain in the last thousand years because 1 is born every thousand years.

[@CrimsonViruz]

@@23Raind that will be the legendary, super Saiyan you’re talking about such as Broly. The first Broly movie may not be canon, but Vegeta mentions it in the movie, “the saiyan of legend, the legendary super Saiyan.” Goku was not born a super Saiyan. Broly, however, was born with a power level of 10,000.

[@23Raind]

@@CrimsonViruz Yeah, vegeta also thought he was the legendary super sayain just because he had abused zenkai boosts, and later thought the same of Goku despite neither having the normal form. Vegeta is not reliable.

[@xXZinogreXx]

I thought goku was the "saiyan of legend" whereas broly is literally a Legendary super saiyan.

[@DarkKnight_Prod]

^

[@vinayak90417]

Nope it's stated a lssj warrior is born once in every 1000 yrs..it means the child born itself with immense abnormal strength and ki..goku as a child was not abnormal lol

[@DarkKnight_Prod]

@@vinayak90417 thats what he said as people get confused by that goku was just the first super saiyan in 1000 years which was a large factor in the case but to see as dbs broly actually fits the standard of the Lssj.

[@youngOGTelly]

Broly's face when he responded "Huh?!"😂😂

[@Teocrit1]

He was terribly horrified 😂

[@TheBronzeTrombone]

Huh?

[@yudhistirramjatan3953]

Some say he is still looking for Princess Trunks

[@cryerangel]

Her hair is like lavender, but smells like strawberries

[@renejagt7684]

😂😂

[@SpeedwagonZaidan]

Well she was the one that killed Freeza.

[@Theamzinggumball]

So he randomly had over 10,000 strength at birth

[@WarriorNK9000]

Yes, he did. Cope.

[@Theamzinggumball]

@@WarriorNK9000 what ever ok

[@WarriorNK9000]

@@Theamzinggumball i mean, goku is literally the legendary super saiyan. there's no getting around it.

[@Theamzinggumball]

@@WarriorNK9000 ik just explain to me how broly had that much power as a fetus

[@WarriorNK9000]

@@Theamzinggumball he was just randomly born that way. just genetics. but it’s not like he’s the legendary Super Saiyan or anything like that. it’s just like Down syndrome. It just happens, y’know.

[@21st_CenturySchizoidMan]

"he's like a golden oozaru without the body size" So he's ssj4 but without the fur.

[@Ghosty-s28]

Sorta

[@Husker2746]

I am still gonna call his form legendary super Saiyan, and no one can stop me! (I love how I just started a war, continue on now)

[@UltraRogue.]

Same

[@maximovassilyiwanoff]

Fr, video failed to shed light on the "new" name for the form; Full Power Super Saiyan.

[@Nmoment-uv6jc]

Denying facts doesnt make them less real, it just makes you look like you dont know what you are talking about

[@lebruhjames9007]

@@Nmoment-uv6jcthat’s broly’s whole character. That he’s the LEGENDARY super saiyan

[@EskChan19]

@@lebruhjames9007 Yeah and that's STUPID fan fiction level writing. So we're gonna ignore this because DBS finally fixed Broly. DBZ Broly is the worst "character" if you even want to call him that ever made in anime

[@Jamer77]

Legebdary 💀

[@bxnkeybx5076]

🇩🇿

[@Super_Cinder.Inferno]

True, He Sped Up Typing To Title Of The Short

[@priestesslucy3299]

Legebdary typo

[@caysenbrown3031]

Fr he changed it tho

[@wolfz1413]

​@@bxnkeybx5076 What??

[@Xervna]

Broly out here getting us a step closer to ssj4.

[@orrissonpereira1070]

I think SS4 has been written to be Wrathful state. That's why its SSG Blue's equal. Its better too since now you can stack a transformation on top of it.

[@ARCAD3BLOOD]

@@orrissonpereira1070 Nah, that doesn't calculate right, cause oozaru is just 10 times stronger. Even ssj2 is 50 times stronger than ssj. This doesn't explain why his arse is fighting ssgssj out there with no ssj tranformation whatsoever.

[@orrissonpereira1070]

@@ARCAD3BLOOD I meant wrathful state has the SS4 multiplier, whatever that is. And THEN he stacks SS on top of it.

[@ARCAD3BLOOD]

@@orrissonpereira1070 There's just one thing... you need ssj for it to work. Without it, you're just oozaru without oozaru. Anyway it also doesn't feel right, as the only multiplier that multiplies other multipliers is ssg. It works because whatever you do to your base Ki, will be turned into God Ki. so it's like stage 1 stage 2 scenario. But oozaru had a static multiplier, that didn't multiplied multipliers. Even if we say that ssj4 is equal to ssgssj, he's fighting them 2 on 1, even before ssj transformation, which is crazy.

[@Abysll]

I know this is a month old, but you're wrong about the ssj2 multiplyer@@ARCAD3BLOOD

[@auditect950]

I'm pretty sure Kale is referred to as a LSSJ in both the manga and the anime, and Broly is clearly in the same form as her.

[@Synthwave89]

Yup. He's just trolling for engagement

[@mlpluss9939]

@@Synthwave89Actually she’s only called that in the Manga, the dub added the LSSJ line.

[@BroxyWays]

No, eso nunca pasó

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

@@Synthwave89it was retconned

[@sagearmaggedon7307]

This is true. Kale also seems to be Brolys universe 6 twin. I know people are picky about the it, but Broly has to be the Legendary saiyan, as he fits all of the characteristics perfectly: Unbridled self destructive fury, a gentle soul turning into a rampaging monster, seemingly endlessly increasing power, the green aura, and the very distinct ringing sound that only OG Broly and Kale have when firing energy blasts

[@elilikepizza1344]

Zeno calling broly the legendary super sayian in a dbx2 mission:

[@HeaIthyVortex]

DBX2 isn’t cannon

[@KAY4ZZ]

Nice try but don’t use games to get information.

[@cloudshifter]

In dbx2 mission my OC casually beats the time patroller which is the strongest being in db under Zeno so...

[@RJ-rp8yd]

Android 18 can also absorb energy in XV2, so...

[@XenoAnims]

Wtf else would it be HES literally Broly but in super don’t forget that guys

[@lopoke2417]

This short about the"Legebdary" super saiyan clears things up

[@DBanimationsZ]

not at all bc kale is brolys uni 6 counterpart and vegeta acknowledged that the legendary ssj exist and whis stated uni 6 is the sister universe this why there are similarities between people and planets and races

[@Condescending_Absol]

​@@DBanimationsZ that was only said in the Manga tho, which is Toyotaro's cheese domain for silly plot points

[@AllMight6]

@@DBanimationsZtranslation thing in Japanese it’s just True Form

[@sinistor3727]

No people still being dumb fuckers that doesn't use their brain to figure Toriyama narrative and still riding on Broly power level.

[@narutonamikaze9994]

Why is everyone commenting this

[@sansob08]

'He could be even end up being the Legendary Super Saiyan' -Literally one one of the scientist checking him on DBS Broly 💀.

[@AuriofTheHooligans]

By Legendary Super Saiyan they mean the Super Saiyan of Legend. AKA A Saiyan who becomes a Super Saiyan. It maintains its legendary status around the years prior to Vegeta (The Planet)'s destruction because there hasn't been a Super Saiyan for millennia, if ever.

[@_veloxity91]

Super Saiyan 1 has ALWAYS been referred to as "the Legendary Super Saiyan". Canon Broly is just another Super Saiyan. Non canon Broly is "the Legendary Super Saiyan". In canon, Goku is the real legend.

[@sansob08]

@@_veloxity91 Broly has a different type of Super Saiyan, like Kale, there's a difference between base SS and LSS, they can both achieve those 2 different forms, Broly turned super saiyan and then into Legendary/Berserk Super Saiyan while fighting Gogeta

[@sansob08]

@@_veloxity91 Also, according to the legend, a LSS is born every thousand years, there's a lot of ordinary SS, but only one LSS in Universe 6 and 7 (Broly and Kale)

[@emperortoho]

@@sansob08 kale is the legendary saiyan, which is a different myth from u6 broly is “just” a mutant(though kale likely is too)

[@Azsmokie]

broly: i cant have nothing in this house!

[@johnnyd3158]

Kale had the same green haired SSJ form in DBS, as considering that Kale and Broly are practically like universal counterparts to one another, I thought that form was referred to as Super Saiyan Berserk in the DBS series.

[@Vanity0666]

Trunks has Super Saiyan Rage form but it's also different, with the yellow outer aura and blue inner aura seperated so as not to mix and become green

[@Pyroman1ak]

It’s been said that those green haired forms are different

[@Saikyo-no-Fusion-da]

​@@Vanity0666thats anime only though and lets be honest shit makes no sense and was only made to sell stuff

[@DBanimationsZ]

@@Vanity0666no trunks form is completely different and doesn’t correlate to this at all his form had blue and yellow aura

[@ashleybanks-wm4cg]

You're right bro this guy has no idea what he's talking about Both Kale and Broly are LSSJ with a berserk mode it was never called berserker

[@LORDDARTHVADERRR]

R.I.P toriyama

[@StrykerSparda]

no dragon balls fir this one lol

[@LORDDARTHVADERRR]

@@StrykerSparda thats not funny

[@kingbowserchannel1585]

@@StrykerSparda haha dark humor

[@StrykerSparda]

@@kingbowserchannel1585 thanks bro :3 i try

[@StrykerSparda]

@@LORDDARTHVADERRR idc lol

[@No-Name-06]

Who else gonna pretend they never heard that

[@animefan8401]

Me

[@23Raind]

Don't need to, he's wrong.

[@Unknklll]

Me too

[@KingBatch07]

​@@23Raindhow

[@Cr0w1997]

Me

[@lucyperez1371]

I love how even broly is confused in the thumbnail😭😭

[@budemawa411]

I feel like genetically Broly was meant to be the LSSJ perhaps due to fate or just pure coincidence that he was born with immense talent if things were allowed to play out. However, since he was trapped on that planet so long he was stagnant, allowing others with less potential to become Super Saiyans before him, but I believe he was always meant to be that generation's Legendary Warrior, but meddling happened.

[@WarriorNK9000]

Cool idea.

[@BO2ZombieX]

Not just that I feel like "The Legendary Super Saiyan" is Broly similar to what you say. I think Broly has the Birthright to be the LSSJ and maybe his bloodline has its own secrets BUT with the exceptions like Goku or Vegeta mimic what Goku said to Vegeta in The Saiyan Saga that eventually creates a motif, in turn A Low class can surpass an Elite if he trains hard enough. I have a seprate idea believing that Broly LSSJ is more powerful than most SSJ levels. I theorize because Broly(Z) can probably generate near infinite Ki, the only limitation is his mortal body. Broly(Z) can be stronger than SSJ but not achieve SSJ2 because he doesn't meet the requirements of ascending in speed AND power, He could only ever achieve SSJ Grade 3 in Power but Doesn't Lose Speed the difference is he DOES NOT have Increase in Speed. Moreover after Broly(Z) beats everyone up, even putting Goku on the ground, he says his power is 'Overflowing' almost like he has Bigger Ki Generation but having no way to apply that power (Think like and Overfilled Cup of Water) he then starts destroying the Planet sending ki blasts everywhere. Broly haveing the LSSJ form feels more dangerous because if given enough time and training he DOES have the potential to be stronger than a God Of Destruction. He can probably perfect certain obstacles like SSJ Grades and SSJ3 drawbacks.

[@pr0to.j03]

I think its the opposite. Broly's an anomaly, a mutant. A creature born without a limiter.

[@WarriorNK9000]

@@pr0to.j03 What you’re saying is that he wasn’t even meant to be the legendary Super Saiyan in the first place, but rather he’s just a random mutation? That surely would help him feel more special instead of being tied to a legend that wasn’t even fulfilled by him.

[@WarriorNK9000]

@@BO2ZombieX weird to talk about z broly in a thing about DBS broly

[@Ironpaths]

Broly is obviously meant to be the legendary super saiyan even if they don’t say it directly.

[@whynot7507]

I 100% agree. I think the point of legendary super saiyan in broly is that the "Legend" that they thought goku was is a false interpretation. They said a legendary super saiyan is only born every thousand years or something like that. If that's true then it wouldn't make sense for there to be so many super saiyans. Goku is the strongest but he gets surpassed a lot. Thats why Broly being the actual Legendary super saiyan makes so much sense. Being a super saiyan doesnt fulfill the legend, it was referring to a saiyan so insanely strong. Even in super broly I think hes still the legend because what explanation would fit better for a saiyan being born so much stronger then even the most elite saiyans

[@CrimsonAzure-fh6yb]

@@whynot7507 Idk but doesn't that take away from the entire Frieza saga of DBZ just to make Broly slighly cooler, plus Broly was never even said to be anything legendary outside of a medic speculating, just a super powerful "freak" of the Saiyan race

[@whynot7507]

@CrimsonAzure-fh6yb I don't think it takes away from it once so ever. Only because I feel like the fact that super saiyan itself is such a common form that pretty much any saiyan can achieve who's tapped into there emotions is what really takes away from that legend. It made sense at the time but I feel like a "Legendary super saiyan" would make more sense as a guy who was Born freakishly strong then a guy who coincidentally bumped his head so he was able to tap into his emotions and become one of the strongest saiyans around. I think him being tied to a destiny isnt as cool as just him being hard working as well. While with broly I feel like it would make more sense and just explain what they meant by a person only being born that way every 10 thousand years

[@whynot7507]

@CrimsonAzure-fh6yb i know it could still be goku but I just think Broly would make a lot more sense especially because hes so unique. It would make sense to think a saiyan like broly could only be born every thousand years but goku? He is a prodigy but I feel like since the legend says a legendary super saiyan is "born" every thousand years it sounds more like they were inherently born unique and not that they were destined to become great if you know what I mean.

[@travieetreproductions943]

@@CrimsonAzure-fh6ybuhh Broly literally had a higher power level of every other infant saiyan including Prince Vegeta. Whole reason of King Vegeta banishing Broly to a super distant planet because he was concerned about his latent potential as well as hating the fact that Broly was stronger than Vegeta. So that’s more than a medic speculating when you have actual numbers in your face.

[@wontonraymond6469]

“He might even end up being the legendary super saiyan”

[@doppiovinegaro3525]

The problem with it, is that when Vegeta tells about super Saiyan, they imagine it as golden Great ape. While green Broly is the closest thing towards it

[@AllMight6]

That’s also filler

[@looplst]

​@@AllMight6filler is still cannon though

[@mastermk7747]

@@looplstbruh what 😂 are you dumb

[@reddragon100]

Filler is not canon. There is a filler in OG DB where Kami had a time machine which is obviously not canon@@looplst

[@looplst]

@@reddragon100 sorry let me rephrase.. filler can be cannon, but due to it being filler, it isn't mentioned specifically. So like garlic junior sorta is and isn't in the series iirc

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

It’s wild they almost didnt give him his iconic green hair

[@caramelcandys]

Yea, im glad they also gave a reasonable explanation for the green hair that makes sense and doesn’t canonize the non canon broly lssj form

[@Sundowner13]

I'm glad they did, without the green hair what would even make him broly at that point aside from the name?

[@trES-2B-z4p]

If it’s in the movie, it’s canon 💀

[@Sundowner13]

@@trES-2B-z4p do not care

[@2-bit567]

My phone fell and hit my face in sync w8th the punch sound

[@MrJuno319]

Having the strength of an oozaru and the speed of a normal sized saiyan would be fucking terrifying

[@gensteps923]

I'm sorry but this is false. You are conflating the Legend of the Super Saiyan with the Legendary Super Saiyan which are two different things. Yes, Goku is the Fulfillment of the LEGEND of the Super Saiyan. A regular super Saiyan. The legend here refers to a prophecy, where a Saiyan would rise up to the level of a Super Saiyan. The LEGENDARY in Legendary Super Saiyan refers to a Title, denoting a higher level of Super Saiyan, beyond a regular Super Saiyan that pretty much any Saiyan can achieve. The LEGENDARY Super Saiyan is a very Special Saiyan, hence the title of LEGENDARY, and these Saiyans have insane power and potential. As clearly shown and evidenced by Both DBS broly and Kale, these are not average Saiyans, they have power and potential far beyond normal Saiyans allowing them to quickly catch up to the likes of God Goku and Vegeta. These are LEGENDARY Super Saiyans, their in a class all their own.

[@gensteps923]

Blame the translations and the localizations and the closeness of the two concepts for all the confusion. Because Goku is the Fulfillment of the Legend, he continually gets referred to as the "Legendary Super Saiyan" despite not actually being a "Legendary" Super Saiyan. More accurate to say hes a Regular Saiyan who fulfilled the legend of the Super Saiyan. Where as the Title of "Legendary Super Saiyan" remains exclusively for Broly and Kale for universes 6 and 7

[@luxaeterna365]

That *Legendary* super saiyan is not cannon, it's from a non cannon movie, and it's never mentioned again. So no, Broly isn't the legendary super saiyan.

[@ydlkomorebe426]

@@luxaeterna365that’s because their working on making him canon, he’s not canon yet because they have to find a way to fit him into all this mess of an anime

[@luxaeterna365]

@@ydlkomorebe426 No, the Broly that was called the legendary super saiyan is not gonna become cannon, that's why they replaced him with a diferent one that's never called legendary super saiyan. The one from super is already cannon, he apeared in the manga long ago, before the Moro arc.

[@nestathelegoguy3654]

@@luxaeterna365the legendary super saiyan is infact canon. Though the only one to be actually referred to as the legendary super saiyan is kale in the dbs manga.

[@1AHMRD]

Vegeta:you dont get it he is motivated by a crying infant Edit:Paragus:broly is like a trump card who flip's the table and shot the other player's he will be great use to Vegeta King Vegeta:my son the planet or me Paragus:YES!

[@AChimp196]

He is a literal GIANT F*CKING BABY!

[@wingedbluj1674]

DBZ Broly, yeah

[@williamcatala154]

He’s motivated by a literal CRYING F*CKING INFANT!

[@kashmerlangston545]

"He is literally a giant fuckin baby!"

[@LeFisheboi]

​@kashmerlangston545 "so kinda what your being right now"

[@well3669]

Legebdary (When Carthu fixes this no one will understand)

[@ShinyScarfy]

pretty sure Broly's form is literally just called "Legendary Super Saiyan" the same way something like "Super Saiyan Blue" or "Super Saiyan Grade" is used to categorize slightly different alterations to existing forms

[@celerii8085]

Broly do be the legebdary super Saipan Edit: was making fun of a typo in the title lmfao

[@azimuddin1890]

Z Broly but not Super Broly.

[@potatomanz6486]

@@azimuddin1890did you not read the comment?

[@kneeofjustice9619]

“He really is super sand lesbian”

[@azimuddin1890]

@@potatomanz6486 I misread it

[@HawkBreland]

​@@kneeofjustice9619classic

[@Niall_Sene]

I always thought the green haired form was kinda like a burnout of all that power but reaching it's pinnacle at the same time. Big Green Super Saiyan Rage.

[@jasonone8726]

In the old version, Broly's hair was green because of the necklace, like how his SSJ1 was purple. When he didn't have it in Movie 10, it was blonde for both forms.

[@LotteKyoju]

DBZ Broly doesn't have green hair, its the color of his ki mixed with the yellow of his hair (And it was green because of the necklace paragus was using on him too). Now, DBS Broly does actually have green hair, because he is some sort of mutant in the saiyan race, making him a very unique saiyan that has access to the berserk state

[@jasonone8726]

Yeah, you're right.

[@Metro....]

Kale has green hair and she's a berserker saiyan so a similar concept can be applied to super Broly

[@kerdaylebaptiste818]

Bro there is a second movie where adult gohan faced broly his hair was green

[@jasonone8726]

@@kerdaylebaptiste818 Nope, it was blonde throughout the whole of that movie.

[@ZeroDividedByZero]

@@jasonone8726Ikr, that boy straight up lying

[@Jack_Splendens]

Broly is the LSSJ and that is fact, everything else is fairytale with sugar.

[@efec0tuk]

He truly is the Legebdary Super Saiyan 👍

[@GainUng]

People should know that being a legendary Super Saiyan,and having a form called 'Legendary Super Saiyan' are different. Every Super Saiyans are legendary since it's a myth among the Saiyans,but only the Z Broly that has LSSJ as its name,the others are just Super Saiyan,Super Saiyan Full Power,Super Saiyan Berserker,etc.

[@bibbagamer1284]

Legebdary

[@InfiniteAura433]

Yes

[@OmegaCorsair]

Legenbdary Sooper Sayin

[@AnimeFanBadAsS]

No, Broly is THE legendary super sayian, stop misinforming people.

[@miguelaguilar5115]

What I find funny is that this makes Broly's base form is already op. Kinda crazy

[@OscarPun-s5k]

Goku & Vegeta: Trainging decades to attain God Level power. Broly: Eating bugs Gohan: studying bugs Piccolo: Wish.

[@O-Gamer472]

Guess literature isn't 'Carthu's Dojo'. Legebdary lol

[@kamajuchikekenate]

That's why the name FULL POWER SUPER SAIYAN for Broly's green form,would make sense,since he's fully tapping and combining both the Super Saiyan and even his "Ikari"(oozaru) to make the Super Saiyan form kinda fully powered,by both of the Saiyan potentials... While yes,"Full Power Super Saiyan" form WAS a name for the Super Saiyan form both Goku and Gohan had achieved in the ROST,while preparing for the Cell Games...they basically MASTERED being a Super Saiyan,so "Mastered Super Saiyan" would make the MOST sense for the name,than "FPSSJ" simce they just mastered retaining the form,than going fully with maxxing the Saiyan traits,by combining the SSJ and Oozaru...like (Super) Broly basically did...

[@markvlogs1758]

My headcanon is that broly is overflowing with so much ki that his ki literally dyed his hair green. And since his ki is green, you get the point.

[@divineeternity7268]

I always have this argument with fans when I'm taking up for the original SSJ transformation. People can't stand this transformation ran laps around the God forms.😂💯

[@nafizrahman9570]

my stupid mind used to think lssj meant lost super saiyan

[@Primeleeee]

Nah holup, that sounds pretty nicceee

[@trES-2B-z4p]

Lanky Super Saiyan

[@KaoticReach1999]

Toei did the right thing, just having Broly's "ultimate form" being just regular super Saiyan would be lame AF *Insert TFS quote about why it's green here*

[@Fade761]

LSSJ was supposed to be a Saiyan who's so strong that he will never need to train and is always ready to fight, right?

[@mr.voidroy6869]

Nope that comes from the non cannon og Broly movies.

[@thebunz7]

Lssj was the chosen Saiyan. He wins always and no equal in the universe according to Vegeta. And only once every 1000 years is one born.

[@Bu3nny]

Basically bardock is the legendary super Saiyan, when he turn back to time🙃

[@DabiJosuta]

Filler

[@cryoraptora303tm2]

​@@DabiJosuta That's not what filler is.

[@poltergeist_curse123]

No canon

[@awkwurdtalke-gamesandgamer8236]

Isn’t that entire movie non-canon?

[@cryoraptora303tm2]

@@awkwurdtalke-gamesandgamer8236 Yes, it's non-canon although Toryama said he would have liked to write something similar into canon.

[@Gojo-Satoru-backshots]

Bardock waiting in the parking garage:

[@The_Hirohiko_Araki]

Thanks to Broly’s green hairstyle, I kinda like it. Then I just realized that he gets stronger when he gets more angrier like *Hulk*

[@egg-t8n]

“”Broly is the legebdary super saiyan””

[@drak4679]

Don't let bro cook again

[@AbrahamLincolnthegoat160]

i think his "cooking skills" are quite bad

[@Shhhhh183]

It’s literally true tho

[@AbrahamLincolnthegoat160]

@@Shhhhh183 its not true

[@steshLB]

he cooks better than NoobsCreations

[@MatthewNotSoFriendlyNeighbor]

Why not he was talking the truth goku is the legendary super saiyan

[@kadendacosta2358]

idc what anyone says, imma still call him the legendary super saiyan 😅

[@ornate2332]

Crazy how they basically stripped the one thing from broly that made him unique and cool, they basically took away what made broly broly, his whole thing was that he was the legendary super saiyan and now he’s just the every day super saiyan

[@KingNexusMOCs]

Dude. It's Broly. His entire character is being the Legendary Super Saiyan. If that weren't true then he wouldn't still have the same backstory and powers. That's literally his whole thing.

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

*"Cumber-some"* I seen what you did there.

[@JustanAverageUnknown]

Broly being called the LSSJ at the beginning of the movie:🗿

[@aryaplays9272]

Since almost everyone, even a 7 year old child unlocked ssj, The super sayain transformation isn’t so ‘legendary’ anymore.

[@murtad123]

So the green hair form is just ikari on top of ssj

[@csmileyxd7356]

That isn't confirmed either cuz he transformed in his ikari state

[@g_hyperstar3609]

Vegeta referred to Kale as the Legendary SSJ in DBS and Broly's form is very similar to Kale's Berserk SSJ form

[@azimuddin1890]

Yee but they aren’t the same form.

[@samt.1356]

I feel like broly's green hair form is a mix of super Saiyan and wrathful state, except it has no set multiplier when using a uncontrolled state and can get as powerful as it wants. Hence, Kale was able to go toe to toe with ssjb Goku when she was in a uncontrolled state and was weaker when she was able to control it.

[@weirdface1846]

that was dub only

[@tada8874]

@@samt.1356that is probably the most reasonable explanation for kales and brolys forms that I have heard from all the debates I’ve seen. Nice take on this form you have 👍

[@Mattar03]

​@@samt.1356 she wasn't going toe to toe with Goku. He took her hits and had no visible damage, not even dust on his clothes and even said he's going to release more power. And the form that was actually weaker than her uncontrollable berserker was the yellow-ish green form she had against the pride troopers. The second time she controlled her berserker form, before Goku turned God, she was stronger. Even the audience said so. Ki control is a thing, you know. The better your control, the more power you can put out.

[@Panther-Strife4724]

Broly (DBZ or DBS) will always be the true Legendary Super Saiyan.

[@Shadowkiller-dq2ju]

Broly is the LSSJ because he was born with power of a SSJ. Goku and Vegeta trained to that state. I’m pretty sure all Saiyans can transform into a SSJ with training

[@sawhunter117]

So I guess you can just call it wrathful super Saiyan

[@Nmoment-uv6jc]

It is called Full power super saiyan

[@sawhunter117]

@@Nmoment-uv6jc wouldn't that mean Goku and Vegeta should probably have it as well since they have mastered the ssj form long ago and can use its full power beside I'm just going to keep calling it the legendary ssj form since that is what everyone thinks when they see it

[@Nmoment-uv6jc]

@@sawhunter117 Full power super saiyan is achived when a saiyan achives mastery of the full potential of the super saiyan transformation. Full power super saiyan is a form with no mayor energy drain and a 500 times multiplier to the base form, surpassing SS3 in every way. SS2, SS3, SS grade 2 and SS grade 3 are nothing more than variations of the super saiyan transformation. SS2 and SS3 full power also exist, but they have the same multiplier and a higher energy drain. The full power super saiyan is the strongest a super saiyan will go by itself.

[@sawhunter117]

@@Nmoment-uv6jc really well thank you for informing me of this

[@kujoova]

There’s no statement in Canon that says the green haired form is a mix between Oozaru/Great Ape and his Super Saiyan. The green form is more like SSBE being his own special variant of SSJ.

[@thecyberrabbit1440]

It’s a mix of Ikari/Wrathful and SSJ. Ikari is the power of the Great Ape without turning into a Great Ape, so Ikari + Super Saiyan = Great Ape + Super Saiyan in terms of power

[@mbulut9896]

His normal ssj form is a mix between ssj and oozaru, since he already was a ikari(oozaru) before he transformed into ssj, and the green haired form is a stronger version of ssj, so he actually is a green golden oozaru in humanoid form

[@23Raind]

​@@thecyberrabbit1440it's headcanon. Broly was in both oozaru and super sayain for over an hour without green hair.

[@thecyberrabbit1440]

@@23Raind yeah, it’s an evolved form that seems to combine them both to a greater degree.

[@23Raind]

@@thecyberrabbit1440 speculation.

[@arturavelar3285]

Ah yes the legebdary super Saiyan my favorite form

[@azimuddin1890]

It did have a build up in the Freeza Saga.

[@nar8rthedisembodiedvoice]

"Golden Ozaru power without transforming into a great ape" is the most satisfactory explanation I have ever been given about any version of Broly's power-ups (Kale included). It's a lot easier for me to rationalize it since it's the form Baby Vegeta gained that basically put him on par with SSJ4 Goku.

[@denilsonamaya5564]

Goku’s form is only legendary cause it hadn’t been seen in a 1000 yrs. But Broly’s form is actually called The Legendary Super Saiyan due to how unique and crazy berserk it is.

[@craiig4728]

No, the dbz form is. The DBS form is titled “Full Power Super Saiyan” this is because the legendary super saiyan is the super saiyan that appears once every thousand years. This just so happens to be goku.

[@RageArtEnthusiast]

@@craiig4728 in the filler Z movies, broly was not the LSS because he was a SSJ first, rather it was because his form was different to that of Gokus. he was a unique warrior. DBS broly is similar to his old form, we also know his Universe 6 counterpart kale has a similar form labelled SSJ berserk. either way, the video is misleading because it isnt properly explaining how the original broly movie interpreted the legendary super saiyan myth to mean

[@alexanderwindh4830]

​@@craiig4728broly was born at the same time as goku as a super saiyan. He is the legendary. Born.

[@craiig4728]

@@alexanderwindh4830 in dbs he was born at the same time as vegeta bro, and the legend referred to a super saiyan of legend the one described in legend. That was goku.

[@craiig4728]

@@RageArtEnthusiast Dont bring up kale she has nothing to do with this, in the Z movied he was labeled the Legendary Super Saiyan. In DBS he is labeled Fully Powered Super Saiyan. Canonically Goku is the Legendary Super Saiyan as he was the one the legend spoke of. Classic example of DB fans don’t read the manga or watch the show.

[@HORRIOR1]

Still gonna call it Legendary until they come up with a better name for it. Also I like how the hair colors of the forms were switched in the new Broly movie. In the OG one, Broly started out with green hair, but as he gained more and more power, it turned golden. Which I think everyone agreed was a dumb move since all of Z broly's later forms have focused on the green color.

[@X_xWolfx_X]

There’s still a lot of things people seem to keep missing. Kales green hair Vegeta stated that it’s like the legend

[@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa]

They never state him to be but Kale is the Lssj, he's her equivalent of U7 and is based on the LSsj.

[@SPACE_SHIP_PILOT]

In xenoverse 2 the character is called Broly (full power super saiyan) sooo I just call it that

[@arigo1015]

Full power super Saiyan is the form goku and Gohan achieved after the hyper bolic time chamber in the cell saga so the form wouldn't drain energy. If you look up "Full power super Saiyan" it literally gives a picture and multiple sources of goku and Gohan post time skip in "full power super Saiyan".

[@Nmoment-uv6jc]

​​@@arigo1015incorrect sources. The form that goku and gohan "achived" in the time chamber is called "Super Saiyan" Goku also achived other boosted forms of super saiyan, grade 2 and 3, but nothing more. He just perfected Super Saiyan. The name "Full power super saiyan" is the name of broly's final transformation. That form can also be achived by ordinary saiyans, but it would have a different aspect and it would be extremely hard Besides, Xenoverse 2 is a 100% official source, and it calls it by its correct name

[@jeff999]

stupid ass name

[@SPACE_SHIP_PILOT]

@@arigo1015 I don’t consider that especially because THEY DROPPED THE WHOLE DAMN CONCEPT OF NOT NEEDING TO BE MAD TO ACCESS SSJ

[@Sundowner13]

Thats the most lame name for something that should be so much more unique He was THE Legendary Super Saiyan but now he's just a full power super Saiyan, "full power super Saiyan" sounds like that form that trunks and vegeta used in the cell saga that made them slower

[@SRDStudios137]

It’s called Full-Power Super Saiyan

[@23Raind]

That doesn't mean he isn't the legendary super sayain. The legendary super sayain is a person, not a transformation. The legendary super sayain gets a special transformation but the form doesn't need to have "legendary" in its title.

[@AllMight6]

@@23Raindwell… yeah it’s Goku he fulfilled the legend first

[@InkBlotts]

@@23Raindsorry canon says you’re wrong

[@arigo1015]

Full power super Saiyan is the form goku and Gohan achieved after the hyper bolic time chamber in the cell saga so the form wouldn't drain energy. If you look up "Full power super Saiyan" it literally gives a picture and multiple sources of goku and Gohan post time chamber in "full power super Saiyan". Where did you get that from?

[@basimali619]

@@arigo1015yeah, broly’s form is called “super saiyan full power”, not “full power super saiyan”

[@olsizavalani695]

Remember Vegeta's green hair in mid-transformation? It's because when saiyans transform they have to rage but Broly always stays in that state(not like Trunks's SSR tho)

[@CrescentCrusader99]

In the canon, LSSJ isn’t a form. The “legendary” part is just to show how extraordinary the SSJ part is. In the non-canon Broly movie, LSSJ is a specific form which turns one’s hair green and one’s body massive.

[@sarahmatheny1872]

I believe the reason of his green hair form is much more complicated. The green aura and hair that vegeta has right before becoming a super saiyan, goku has the same green aura when becoming super saiyan blue. The green is from the rage to access super saiyan. And because broly is always raging, its always green

[@myrkrormr]

Then i must be colorblind..because it still looks gold to me when vegeta and goku transform

[@Unknklll]

Broly is the real legendary super Saiyan

[@sarahmatheny1872]

@myrkrormr in the dbs broly movie, when vegeta transforms into super saiyan his hair turns green for a moment, and during the amazing ssgss transformation for goku his aura is green for a moment

[@pacoscorner7318]

Technically, the green haired form is referred to as FPSSJ, or Full Power Super Saiyan in most media outside of the movie. Which WOULD be really, really cool if that was a level of power Goku and Vegeta could learn alongside Broly so they don't have to rely on the God forms all the time.

[@johnstrife7]

Lol no ss already has a limit and when broken becomes ss2 and then 3 full power ss makes no sense, Broly is THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN that's been born every thousand years cause he has the most power level since birth even among the elites

[@pacoscorner7318]

@@johnstrife7 But that's boring and it kinda leaves him with nowhere interesting to go.

[@Sundowner13]

The fact that Goku and vegeta could "learn" that form just makes it more lame, because then that means that goten could also "learn" that form Legendary super saiyan is way cooler as it's actually only given to one saiyan instead of being handed out to everyone like it's a bargain sale

[@troller9838]

Broly (both versions) is the Legendary Super Saiyan that is born every 1000 years. Goku is just a normal Saiyan that can use the Super Saiyan forms, all Saiyans can use these forms, even the god forms which is evident by Vegeta obtaining the god forms without needing to use the god ritual. Goku and co. have never been shown to be able to use the Legendary Super Saiyan form that Broly is using.

[@asifkhan8795]

Then what's the point of freeza saga And we only saw Goku and vegeta turning into superm Saiyan God form. And I think you didn't watch dbz ! Right ? Because before the freeza destroy planet vegeta there were not a single super Saiyan to defend his planet

[@Rakii_YT]

​@@asifkhan8795 because the saiyans died...

[@Rakii_YT]

​@@asifkhan8795and there was 1 before goku

[@ultraisaiah7859]

Give me a singular time an official source has listed canon Broly as legendary.

[@ultraisaiah7859]

Even if you do, everything else says otherwise.

[@13ain26]

He’s like a close representation of ssj4

[@astrotheblackhole]

Broly the Legebdary Super Saiyan💀

[@GoatNaldoCr7_Goat]

This guy knows every dragon Ball knowledge 🗿🔥🍷

[@degitoblue6783]

And that form by using math is a 500x multiplier combining 50 from ssj and 10 from wrath so making it stronger than ssj3

[@Thebookguy1]

He is tho. The description of the legendary super sayian always said it was a beserker with a pure heart. Broly is literally a beserker with a pure heart. Word for word bar for bar.

[@Thebookguy1]

I mean you’re using a TALE, not an oracle or TALE, as proof.

[@GreaterCreation19212]

If he isn't the legendary super saiyan than: 1: Why is the movie named after him 2: How is he capable of facing off against Goku AND Vegeta in their GOD forms 3: Why is he the ONLY SAIYAN in Universe 7 with the ability to use the wrathful form?

[@brenopereira4894]

Kale and broly have the same form and she's called the legendary super saiyan that appears once every 1000 years in the manga so I'll keep calling broly's form LSSJ either way

[@kwisatzhaderach9591]

The way I saw it DBS Broly really is just so freaking powerful in his base rage form he didn't actually have to go Super Saiyan to pummel SSJ Blue Goku and Vegeta. And the fact it took a SSJ blue Gogeto just to start slowing Broly down showed how freaking OP hulk powered Broly is.

[@Original_Katros]

I just wish they stuck with a name though. Kale's equivalent of Legendary Super Saiyan is called Berserk, but DBS Broly's green form is Super Saiyan Full Power... Why isn't it Berserk too? It's still a Saiyan doubling in muscle size, getting blank eyes and green spiky hair. Not to mention what's coloquially known as Super Vegeta and Super Trunks was for all intents and purposes ALSO a full power Super Saiyan... Even though from what I recall, only DB Heroes actually gave the form a name that isn't Super Saiyan Grade X. Heroes calls it Powerhouse.

[@AloneTheorist]

Apparently in the movie, Broly's body absorbed the multiplier of the great ape form into his base form giving him a massive increase in stength, so he's kind of between multiple transformation states, as he has a few ki multipliers staking on eachother as his form changes.

[@akram.25]

I will keep calling him legendary ssj till i die 🙂

[@NewYorxer]

Here's what i belive, Goky is the Super Saiyan of legend. But Broly transformation is only named Legendary Super Saiyan

[@mr.ashenfire2624]

Broly rising from the ground wrapped in green energy with that menacing stare has the same energy as the final Bowser boss of Yoshis Island.