Cartoons Have ALWAYS Been Political

[@Moonsong227]

Time for one of my favorite reminders: George Lucas was a hippie and anti-vietnam-war, Coruscant was America, and Palpatine was based on nixon

[@adrienstarfaer]

Uh, I thought it was inspired by ww2? I thought the Storm Troopers were meant to be equivalent to the Nazis. Vader's design certainly was.

[@Leadlight280]

​@@re1010 how dare you politicize the SS dude?

[@adrienstarfaer]

​@@re1010 They've always been political. Idk how to explain to you that war is inherently political, and fiction is almost always inspired by reality in some way.

[@austinreed7343]

Tomino was also anti war

[@LeolaTheElf]

The Ewoks were inspired by the Vietcong.

[@Kamil_Horvath]

I love how direct and non apologetic this is. I think nuance and discussion is great, but sometimes when people act purely on their own disgust for a group or subject they don't like, it's best to just say "Please act like an adult. Everyone is allowed to exist without you screaming about it"

[@comedienne_historian]

so grateful to have this to watch and process during all this election stress!

[@FunnyFany]

"Woke agenda is ruining cartoons" go to Weenie Hut Jr.'s, you can't handle the Salty Spitoon.

[@jmeowstick2x125]

@@FunnyFany What’s your reaction to the election results? No real reason just asking.

[@FunnyFany]

@jmeowstick2x125 i'm not american

[@92JazzQueen]

@@FunnyFany says people who squirm over trump win

[@FunnyFany]

@92JazzQueen ?

[@FunnyFany]

@92JazzQueen are the people squirming in the room with us right now

[@sandwichqueen]

Honestly, the people who complain about "wokeness" are just sad. They're so stuck in a bubble of unrealistic nostalgia that they can't enjoy the world and actively try to make it a worse place for everyone. I just don't understand how you can live like that. Especially when there are so many amazing people that are different from me.

[@TiggyTheWolf967]

Bro I got fucking jumpscared by Ben Shapiro 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@catloverliya]

Me too 😭

[@vincegiangiulio1160]

He looks like a goth Draco Malfoy

[@KeeKage37]

Definitely hit the nail on the head. Comics, Games, and animation have always had political implications or serious subjects in them. Some of the best have them in spades. I would argue that there is a right way and a wrong way to go about depicting these things. And we need to have conversations about what works and what doesn’t. Instead of just wanting to generalize everything when people don’t even realize the arguments there trying to make.

[@prowolf633]

Glad someone is pointing it out

[@Ruby-Doc]

*TOON RUINS HAS RETURNED **_(I noticed this is the second new video but KZbin notifications are wack)_*

[@EmployeeAMillion]

Thank you so much for pointing out that politics have always bled into animation to varying extents. I really believe that a lot of people just dismiss the satire and messaging in animated media as it gets older because of the “it’s for kids” stigma, which is worrying. Just because political figures and social phenomena spoofed in the 1940s don’t exist anymore, that doesn’t mean the cartoons have lost that meaning, nor that the subject matter hasn’t had consequences that continue to effect the world in the present day. Also, these conservative fearmongerers are gonna find new targets eventually and forget what they were whining about today. I swear, in 20-30 years, having an LGBTQ+ character in a children’s cartoon will be so normalised that it won’t be a talking point anymore. The progression of society and culture always happens in the longrun. A lot of this is stuff I’ve always wanted to say, but I personally try keeping politics out of my channel so my anxiety doesn’t act up when I open up my comments section. But again, thanks for putting this context in a good, meaninful video.

[@92JazzQueen]

Dude the left thinks all gop are the next hitler thry live on fear through their works

[@SnowpawShaw]

F yeah, get it Lea!

[@devinsauls3568]

Toon Ruins is cooking with this video! 👏🏿

[@deadstatic511]

This was a breath of relief to watch! Loved hearing you getting fired up too! ❤

[@daniexists6]

I think it should be said, too, that out of all of the studios that you brought up in the history aspect, Warner Bros. had been making anti-Hitler cartoons all along. The first Looney Tune to make even the slightest jab at the Nazis was Bosko, a horribly dated character made by a few ex-Disney employees. Bosko's final short with the studio, 1933's Bosko's Picture Show, had a whole bit making fun of Hitler. And it was because the actual Warner Brothers themselves were one of the first studio moguls to pull out of the German market, leading them to allow Leon Schlesinger Productions a bit more freedom with making fun of the fascist pricks. So I find it funny when these pundit a-holes say "cartoons shouldn't be political", then point towards the time Daffy whacked Hitler with a mallet, or the character of Montana Max from Tiny Toons being a thinly veiled Donald Trump parody.

[@vincegiangiulio1160]

I know this isn’t the point but Hanna Barbara didn’t create Rocky & Bullwinkle. Jay Ward Productions did. But i understand the confusion. Both companies cropped up around the same time. But the broader point stands that cartoons in any sense are political. For all the handwringing about the proud family reboot being considered by the right to be too woke, it’s worth remembering the original series focused on topics like sexualization, Islamophobia, homophobia, and yes, racism. Rugrats also had an episode about gender nonconformity (Clan of the Duck) where Phil and Chuckie try on dresses, and its sister episode (Angelica’s Lemonade Stand), was one about organized labor/worker rights when the babies protest Angelica’s lemonade stand demanding their fair share of dimes

[@artful_alicat]

fitting day to drop this lmao

[@blueraccoon1088]

I made a acronym called POPOSL People Over Politics Over Studios Loop People are us fans ,politics are law, studios are the people who need to see what can and can't be allowed with politics.

[@mattwolf7698]

I agree with you but for Boomers making the argument, they are probably referring to old Hana Barbera things like Scooby Doo (I really can't think of anything political in that unless you want to get into the fan theory that it takes place during a recession with the gang being draft dodgers) and maybe The Flintstones and Jetsons which yes while there was occasional political jokes, the shows weren't really political excluding being a bit sexist given the era. If its a millennial making the argument it really doesn't work though, tons of 90's and 2000's cartoons had gender swap episodes, many had environmental messages, many showed that parents weren't always great (that's literally the premise behind Fairy Odd Parents)

[@art_cat_lady]

including a depiction LGBT is political, it doesnt matter if it is negative or positive but it is absolutely political. Showing this means that you are part of a progressive movement or want to cater to an audiance. making an effort to not include LGBT is also political. Clearly there are opposing sides in this.

[@turtellini]

lea i am so proud of u for getting this video out mwah mwah mwah

[@ztsquid3000]

I approve of this message.

[@davethetaswegian]

But if they don't keep kids ignorant how will they indoctrinate them in to their preferred ideology?

[@gryficowa]

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[@mattwolf7698]

​@@gryficowathey were being sarcastic, conservatives actually do think like that though

[@cg_spiritedensemble]

I'll never forget when I found out that one of the definitions for woke meant being aware of social injustices & facts in a society. It's something I feel has been mangled & twisted by well, let's just call them haters, into a slang used for ignorance &/or malice. I'm not American, but these thoughts being so carelessly thrown on the internet, alongside the widespread usage of the internet in the mid 2010's onwards, and especially after the Star Wars Sequel trilogy fiasco, all but guarantied these sayings have become widespread worldwide terms. Literal hate speech disguised as reviews & opinions. About a gazillion dog whistles in a single rant video. Being a fan of franchises like Star Wars, Trek, Marvel, DC, etc has been exhausting because I want to spread love to these fandoms & find similar love out there, but instead I find monetized hatred & clickbait. (On a separate topic, parents should absolutely not leave their kids unattended with their laptops or mobile devices. It could be a Bluey compilation or a Spider-Man/Elsa monstrosity and that last one should not be the case!) Luckily it's gotten much easier to see what kind of video you're gonna get through thumbnails. Bold colors & impact font with an unflattering or sexual image on the side? Hate video. (Over simplifying but y'all get the point.) My feed has gotten much better by de-recommending those channels from my homepage & I don't regret it. Sadly because of this landscape I don't agree with the term "You can't judge a book by it's cover" anymore. Thanks for reading this y'all.

[@millelethin3227]

This is such a good video and a very important subject!

[@SailorCallie]

Don't like what cartoons are showing, then don't watch. It's your right, not theirs.

[@NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan]

Nice video but Hanna-Barbera did not make Rocky & Bullwinkle. Jay Ward Productions did.

[@somerandofilipino6957]

Even so, they were never this shit in execution as compared to the slop fed to us today. I believe the better way to phrase it is "cartoons are too one-sided and propagandistic"

[@bonsaikittenmew]

What’s the cartoon here?? 1:45 the animation is so smooth; I tried searching “anti hitler knight cartoon” but couldn’t find it

[@ghostbowandenvysmithfan]

Education for Death

[@kylemorello4787]

And it looks so smooth because it's a Disney cartoon

[@egg_bun_]

I was wondering how you were doing! Im glad I decided to check.

[@kylemorello4787]

It's also not political to make your main characters just as silly and comical as your side characters, so they feel more like equals. Edit: Red Riding Rabbit was supposed to be political? How? I just assumed it was a silly parody of Little Red Riding Hood with Bugs Bunny in it.

[@EgoMeFilo]

Thank you!

[@harsyakiarraathallah2222]

Cartoon has Always be Political, since the Day the Industry starts Rising, to it's Resonance, and it's Modern Reinvention Cartoons has Always and just couldn't Resist to be Political. It's Not what there Talking that's Political, but How we Portrayed it that Matters. So let Cartoons be Political and let Kids Learn from them, we has Cartoonist has to find a Way to tell these Stories for Kids without Forcing Political Messages. "Cartoon has Always been Cinema, it's the Industry that's too Ancient for them".😂

[@Bubblegumtwipp]

"No longer the joker now hes the woker" 💀💀😭💀😭💀?????

[@melodyward324]

We are sooooooo back!

[@blueraccoon1088]

I can politely say the transformers' earthspark was experimented in a character, and i like the characters in the show. Moreover, with my example: skywarp male is a cool guy but waiting for another aperrance until cyberverse was okay. Female is still good, but earthspark, OH MY PRIMUS SHE CAN TAKE ME! but panderizing can or can't be good. Back to original topic. Nightshade I respect them they like science and not forcing who they are it's also shouldn't come no surprise humans are nonbinary. I don't want to offend anyone but they're not doing anything wrong. Some transformers fans see themselves as a multitude of transformers as themselves in a way. On my argument I only seen nonbinary youtuber ultra primal and lord of torbs and don't affect me. As an autistic some people don't look to us as "real people" and are prone as sick. That offended me and I respect others too

[@TheobaldLeonhart]

I'm Canadian, so I legally can't vote in the American Elections But I still like listening about it Edit: I wish I had something, that could explain to me what a period is. And why my chest got bigger, and why I suddenly needed to wear something uncomfortable Basically, I wish I had a cartoon, that could tell me what a period is, and what puberty is. But mostly the period thing I, didn't have a good childhood. So I thought my bleeding, was because of that. So I was scared of telling my parents. If I had something like a cartoon episode, to explain it to me. I might've felt better And, I really would've liked lgbt characters. I was very LGBTphobic as an early teen, because I had/have a LGBTphobic family I then struggled for years, figuring myself out, and accepting that I'm aromantic I wish I had the kind of cartoons, we have now Also, when people say stuff like "they don't make cartoons like how they used to". Or "I wish cartoons were like how they were when I was a kid". In a way, people are saying that they wish cartoons were racist... As well as, ignoring the fact, that they were very political back then

[@92JazzQueen]

Dude stop it. People are calling the 90s racist.

[@urklynreiss]

Ok but also, political art ≠ political activism. The latter is typically the problem when unnaturally included in art.

[@moviemaestro800]

But even that is often extremely subjective.

[@baltoswtor8736]

Just because a cartoon or show includes things like sexism or the effects of trauma, or whatever your show has in it, I don't think that is what makes a show "woke" or "political." I think what makes something political is when it's trying to shove their view in your face and make you think only their view is the right view, or that you're a jerk if you think differently than them.

[@timberwolf4698]

Is that how Left Leaning Media defends Cuties in 2020?

[@steamboatwill3.367]

They didn't Also, you must hate "poor things" aswell

[@timberwolf4698]

@ you must be one of the defenders?

[@steamboatwill3.367]

@@timberwolf4698 ) what makes you think that.

[@timberwolf4698]

@@steamboatwill3.367 you really do hate me, do you?

[@steamboatwill3.367]

@timberwolf4698 ) i could ask you the same

[@Moonsong227]

Go off toon ruins

[@Serge165]

@ToonRuins Story telling has always had political slants to it. Thereby Cartons alway ahve.

[@92JazzQueen]

Dude, there are so many bad takes from people who defend trash takes.

[@laraprisma6381]

As a Transformers fan, I remember when there were people complaining that the show Earthspark had a non-binary character, as if this franchise wasn't unfamiliar with LGBT elements. There were literally two shows with gay-coded characters, the comics had same-gender couples and trans characters, and this community has several LGBT fans, including trans ones! the show is not dangerous because one of the protagonists is non-binary! they don't even watch the show, Nightshade is incredible! They are a kind scientist who loves their family and is always willing to help them! but these anti-woke people don't know that because they don't even watch the show! and I have no doubt that they would hate it even more because the show has a mixed Filipino and black family, the mother of this family is a badass amputee, and one of the main themes of the show is racism and discrimination! Yes, it is discrimination against a fictional race, but the villains still act like complete bigots against the characters simply because they are not like them! This show is genuinely really underrated, the second season sucks but the first season is incredible! If you like transformers, good action, a good story and representation, this show is really good!

[@LWoodGaming]

Both season suck.

[@laraprisma6381]

@LWoodGaming As someone who watched the show, no. Only Season 2 Sucks. First season has great writing, amazing fights, captivating characters and interesting lore. If you don't like it, that's your opinion. Saying that the show itself is bad because it's not prime, or one of the characters is non-binary, or because it's for a young audience aren't very valid points to say that the show Sucks.

[@laraprisma6381]

@LWoodGaming If you really want to make an argument for why the show sucks, would you care to break down episode by episode why the show sucks?

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

The new dragon age game definitely missed the point

[@DavidParis-zd4yu]

Thank you for the video, I have always got my political views from my favorite animated shows or movies and have become a better person for it, I would rather listen to the political opinions from the writers of the DCAU or Young Justice than those idiots at fox news.

[@PrimalSion]

The endless lecturing played a huge roll in why Trump won. Just remember that

[@steamboatwill3.367]

you don't complain when it's the other way around

[@PrimalSion]

@ when what’s the other way around?

[@derrickjohnson4952]

I don't mean any disrespect but I feel like you and others like you making this argument know what people MEAN even if theyre using the incorrect words for what they want. I don't want a products story changed morphed or downgraded just to fit a specific agenda OVER the story. I don't want every time I judge something someone just cries bigot. I don't want assholes using "everything is political " as an ensues to hyper analyze every single person on earth. Is someone who says oh you like captain America uh you believe in a racist government then and now somehow wish for genocide because ya don't hate captain America. I'm tired of hypocrisy, if I like x product but say It has a problematic director whatever I now somehow AGREE with all they're views because I didn't boycott them, but when the situation is flipped those same people say "bro your reading to much into its just entertainment " this rules for thee except for me now its an exception. I hate haring "everything is political and uh everything is secretly racist" but don't you view it through your political lens cause thats the wrong lens. What I see is activism what you see is just conspiracy theory bro its just a movie man. I tired of everything is politically being a shield against criticism , so what your stuff is politically that doesn't automatically make it good or bad even if I agree with said politics. thats what I mean when I say why is something so political in media.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

except, it's not.

[@derrickjohnson4952]

@ You sure about that, seems it does or at the very least happened a while ago.

[@timberwolf4698]

Thank you!

[@Matyas_Ceo_Of_Matyas]

First

[@comedienne_historian]

Second!

[@EYYYYYJustin]

I don't like woke. I don't watch. Simple as.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

You don't like being against racism?

[@gryficowa]

So you don't watch anything because everything is woke, even the stuff from your childhood

[@jmeowstick2x125]

@@gryficowa Wow, a “X thing you like is woke” argument, you’re really not making yourself look smart.

[@gryficowa]

@@jmeowstick2x125 Okay, then watch old movies, even the one from before you were born, and then we'll talk

[@jmeowstick2x125]

@@gryficowa You do know that the difference between those movies is that they were good right? There's a difference between something like Citizen Kane or 1984 and shit like She-Hulk and Rings of power.

[@jmeowstick2x125]

I’m voting for Trump today.

[@gryficowa]

...

[@jmeowstick2x125]

@ I just checked your tumblr, you’re crazy.

[@gryficowa]

@@jmeowstick2x125 Better to be crazy than fascist

[@jmeowstick2x125]

@ The classic “everything I don’t like is fascist”. You’re very much a free thinker and not a moronic drone.

[@gryficowa]

@@jmeowstick2x125 So maybe you'll see what fascism is all about? And it's funny that you lecture a person from the country about what he was a victim of the Nazis