The DEATH of Cartoon Network

[@Kittenfox_55]

One thing I do hate about the streaming era is how soon shows can get canned and it leaves the streamer's library with many unfinished stories no one will bother with since they know going in the show was cut short.

[@DefyReality-ll2cg]

THIS!!!

[@lukarikid9001]

I just genuinely dislike how easy it is for media to be permanently erased without warning. You’re destroying our culture, our identity, our memories!!!

[@lifeisadrag7705]

@@lukarikid9001 I agree, it's kind of terrifying

[@tiamystic]

JATP 😭 I wish they closed it out with a movie or a graphic novel at the very least. The story doesn’t even need to stretch as long.

[@purple6012]

Blessed torrents with high quality mkv.

[@dabatman5187]

When I heard Regular Show was coming back I felt an overwhelming sense of dread. Remember when J. G. Quintel made Close Enough? Then it got removed off of Max and Netflix? I feel so bad for him. It seems like he’s been told to “Dance Monkey” and make Regular Show again instead of evolving his storytelling potential. What a shitty time to wanna make a show

[@cbbblue8348]

Yeah I feel even the writers felt burned out in further season since there's not so much story to write about after 6+ seasons

[@GapingGorble]

I felt the same way about Craig McKraken. Apparently he pitched them like 40 new ideas but they just wanted him to do PPG again

[@cloudynguyen6527]

@@cbbblue8348 I felt this as well. You can cut half of seasons 7 and 8, and it would still make sense for the story going forward if that was their intention.

[@supernintendo182]

Honestly I would've pulled a Hillenburg and left it to other showrunners while I did something else.

[@cbbblue8348]

@@cloudynguyen6527 yeah since regular show in general is just a love letter for those that grew up in the 80's 90's. It just way different if it force to be done out of the same of renewal.

[@AverageInternetButterfly]

They say piracy is "illegal", but why it ISN'T illegal for companies to erase already existing shows from any form of streaming with no other way to watch them is utterly fucking beyond me. Edit: I've received a lot of "because they own the property" replies as to why they're removing shows from streaming. And they're right. They DO own the rights. I'm just acknowledging how dumb this is

[@michaelstrong5383]

I swear these companies aren't helping their "anti-piracy" argument when they do stuff like that.

[@olleselin]

IKR

[@DarkkirbyKRPG]

@@olleselin It's probably not illegal because you never directly paid to watch these shows, not even when you subscribe to a streaming service because legally you're paying for the whole service and not specific shows. I'm not saying I agree with this, I'm just trying to make sense out of it.

[@stickthelanding4785]

Some anime faces the same problem. You can’t watch the original fma on any streaming platform so you either need a dvd or just pirate it.

[@fireentertainment5]

They should just release them physically if they're not going to do so in streaming

[@dabatman5187]

David Zaslav is the worst thing to happen to media in years. He’s the human equivalent of that fire that wiped out 90% of silent films

[@marlom7882]

I’ve been praying for that bitch’s downfall ever since Warner bros cancelled Final Space

[@TonyTheTiger94]

He's Jewish what did you expect?

[@Carlos-bz5oo]

He's Ahriman's final moments of spite before the end of the world

[@SuperbitGamer-db6iw]

He and John Malone need to be fired NOW

[@HarishBabuM]

What fire? Silent films?

[@gerogie51]

I can't believe Cartoon Network has fallen off this hard to a point where Adult Swim literally holds the timeslots MORE than Cartoon Network does, to a point where Adult Swim now airs at 5:00PM. ABSOLUTELY INSANE. Literally so many projects that were supposed to be on CN were either moved to air on Adult Swim or were cancelled, and the channel is literally just a wasteland of reruns after reruns, with the only shows still making new episodes being TTG and We Baby Bears. Hopefully this new Gumball Season and (maybe) those unnecessary Adventure Time and Regular Show revivals could help save the channel.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Yeah, that's actually funny but sad because I love Adult Swim and can never hate it more than I do with Cartoon Network now falling off and disappointing me so much with these godawful reboots.

[@gerogie51]

​@@danteshollowedgrounds yea I agree with you, its been a while since I've been able to watch cable but when I did last year, it was really depressing to see all this transpire, but at least Adult swim has good shows

[@michaelstrong5383]

Adult Swim just released a trailer of _Invincible Fight Girl_ on their KZbin, and while it does look really promising, I can't help but think that if CN were smart, they would give that show a chance to air on their main network.

[@RomaroBrandon]

Don't forget Cartoon Network has to play episodes of old TV shows at 5PM because their current shows are crap

[@DefyReality-ll2cg]

Gumball isn't going to save anything when CN plays the show more than they do Teen Titans Go. Also, the Adventure Time and Regular Show stuff most likely will probably be Max exclusives like Distant Lands and Fionna and Cake.

[@davidholanda1]

the recent news about Warner Bros Discovery should be a wake-up call for everyone in the animation industry as to how NOT to manage your company it needs to be called out and David Zaslav be out of CEO role, this is a huge problem

[@SecretMagician]

What happened?

[@lucasfraczek4320]

​@@SecretMagician They took off a bunch of shows off HBO Max for no reason.

[@SilverScribe85]

Zaslav is as bad of a businessman as Trump was a terrible president

[@Trevthehedgehog7]

We gotta bring back the tar and feathers for that wanker.

[@КатяКалинина-х6м]

Get that David Zaslav out of here. Leave the animation of WB alone! Give a way for new and original projects. Man, I want to quote Finn from "Blenanas" episode: "No, you're right, can't be nostalgic!"

[@donovan802]

Dude, Owen Dennis (creator of Infinity Train) openly said via a social media post around the time of Infinity Train’s removal from Max that he commends pirating the show for anyone who wants to watch it [again]. I don’t blame him for this idea, but it’s just so messed up that the show not only got dealt a terrible hand with no new books (because Amelia is an adult, blah blah blah), but the fact Warner Bros HAD TO HAVE KNOWN this show was slapping.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

Idk why nobody has uploaded the entire series, I’ve seen other shows be uploaded in their entirety, so what’s stopping them? It’s not like Warner bros will come after them since they made it clear they want nothing to do with those shows.

[@michaelstrong5383]

I feel so sorry for Owen. It's bad enough that one of the most popular shows on the channel was canceled when the story wasn't over, but to remove it from any official streaming services, even to the point of deleting any references on Cartoon Network's websites as if it never aired at all, is downright criminal.

[@meh4294]

It was cut from even finishing 😐,I always shed a tier whenever someone mentions this show cuz Ughhhhhhhagh😫

[@SilverScribe85]

This is why I watch most animated content on wcostream instead of Max, Disney+ or Netflix

[@brytilaar]

And I also really despise how the creator of Mighty Magiswords became a bad guy.

[@jayjaybulldog9180]

Still irritates me that they had the audacity to shutdown the website even though it lost its touch. Fun Fact: Cartoon Network website was #1 to kids in every age demographic and had reached 91 million households in 160 countries in 2004-2006 while gain 4,600 cities during their get animated takeover. What a time to literally be a CN fan😔

[@cbbblue8348]

I'd guess losing their main competitor really makes them less competitive at creating stuff too

[@jayjaybulldog9180]

@@cbbblue8348 Nick and CN we’re head to head while Disney felt on top due to live action sitcoms and cartoons such as Kim Possible, proud family and lilo and stitch .

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

@@jayjaybulldog9180Their Cartoons were pretty good

[@forrestpatterson6053]

Cartoon cartoon fridays!!

[@speedyhallee]

Probably the most depressing downfall I have seen ever. It hurts seeing all of this in a way I can’t describe, as an animator and an artist myself. Maxs recent removals was my final straw, and since you mentioned it… #StandWithAnimation

[@SuperFlashDriver]

At this point, this hashtag/protest is going to take a good 5 years or so just for Warner Brothers to spit in your faces, and literally say "We don't care, we're doing it our own way, and you can either support us, or fuck off." That I believe is where the animators are going to have to make their own independent company and television/streaming platform themselves, just for the fans and lovers of cartoons/anime alike.

[@mindyabusiness70]

As a Cartoon Network kid, over nick and Disney, it hurt me too

[@Damitsall]

The reason all these shows are bad is because they only let a certain type of show get made. Notice how all the shows are comedy shows now? Notice how all the reboots become comedy shows? For instance, the original Teen Titans had character development, action, good vs evil, story arcs, and etc. All the shows now are just bad comedy shows that are brain rot to kids.

[@SuperFlashDriver]

@@Damitsall I noticed that, but that type of content was introduced in the 1990s, so it feels like they're just making noise, attention, and stuff that would make you look at the screen more compared to actual story development. But also, this is what happens when you give children under 7 smartphones and mobile devices at a very young age, instead of things like toys, board/card games, outdoor activities, and sports equipment.

[@loboqueso5392]

I’ve been tempted to say this is why people should “Go Indie”, but even it’s not always the best solution to the state of the US animation industry ESPECIALLY with the toxic work environments. If they have to “Go Indie”, then they need to watch the budget and unionize the crew when it comes to animated media.

[@Commenter839]

A big problem with suggesting more people should just "go indie" is that animation is *expensive*, and getting enough donations (or even a team) to make a proper indie show is like winning the lottery. Most indie projects will die in obscurity because the creators don't have a huge online presence to begin with. The corporations may be evil, but they provide creators with funding, a team, and a built in audience.

[@dasrit3]

the problem with going indie is that these animators will discover exactly why giants like WB are shutting down these services. there's very little money to be made. these huge corporations were basically running a charity on false hopes of profitability, and those hopes have died.

[@Damitsall]

The reason all these shows are bad is because they only let a certain type of show get made. Notice how all the shows are comedy shows now? Notice how all the reboots become comedy shows? For instance, the original Teen Titans had character development, action, good vs evil, story arcs, and etc. All the shows now are just bad comedy shows that are brain rot to kids.

[@tornadodee148]

@@dasrit3 um you know there IS quite lot of money to be made once animated IP's become successful?? Even indie?? Like Vivziepops shows, Murder Drones, Digital Circus, etc?? You know that's how shows like Spongebob became over-saturated in the first place: because they became successful and now big corps like Nick have been milking it powder-dry for the last 20 or so years?? "very little money to be made" is not the reason here: "it requires too much time and company investment for the impossibly high standards and rapid demands of big corps modern business-making systems" is more the reason. Animation can make bank, if you believe in it, put some effort and minimum money into it, and don't try to pull of greedy scumbag tactics on and with it. that is why people go "indie": cuz they prefer to struggle to lift their projects off the ground themselves rather than sell it to a company that is gonna treat the project and everyone implicated in it like less than crap.

[@SammyRobinson62232]

⁠@@Damitsall Didn’t the 90s and early 2000s also had comedy cartoons. Ppg Johnny bravo Knd Dexter lab And many more. And we did had serialize shows Like Steven Universe, ok ko let’s be hero’s, and extra. I don’t mean to come off as hate I just don’t understand that argument

[@sploinker4933]

Can’t believe that Mao Mao Heroes of the Pure Heart didn’t make the cut when talking about shows being pulled down from Max. That show just learned to walk just to be shot by CN due to Warner merger.

[@SecretMagician]

That show could have been the next Adventure Time, but unfortunately, we never got Season 2...

[@meh4294]

This murder was the most painful out of the rest ,just when ppl got interested, gunshot right at the head ,it's sad looking at the smash style trailer for S2

[@brytilaar]

What's worse is that some of them got cancelled due to tax write offs and less toy sales.

[@lifeisadrag7705]

Jfc is that what happened to that show???

[@QT3.14-w2p]

Yeah they fucking announced a s2 only for the show to be silently canned

[@davidferreira7535]

Just saw a post today saying that the creator of The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy is having to sell stuff online (like original storyboards and character model sheets from the show) so he can pay his rent. Definetly someone who's been directly affected by not getting royalties from the show being on a streaming service. What a sad, sad state things have come to.

[@heckarockstick802]

and this is why suicide is the answer

[@realJoeMavro]

That would be Maxwell Atoms. He once said in a video that if he wasn't in animation, he'd probably be living in a cardboard box. I don't have a religious bone in my body, but my prayers go to him none-the-less.

[@d.52555]

That’s so sad, I hate that creators can’t live off of the fruits of their labor.

[@G4neralTuga]

The fact that the best kids network, compared to nickelodeon and disney, is also the one that got treated like this makes me worry about the state of animation more and more

[@he2295]

I mean Spiderverse does well

[@boydixonentertainment]

@@he2295But still suffers the same issues and bad practices within the industry if what happened behind the scenes with Across the Spider-Verse is anything to go by.

[@he2295]

@@boydixonentertainment oh okay

[@calebproductions1264]

If Ed Edd n Eddy gets removed then I’m gonna kermit suicide.

[@lautarogomez9711]

This is why I lost hope in everything at all

[@C0nfettIBrainZ]

Words cannot describe how angry it makes me to see how animation is treated in the industry. As someone who’s been working to become an animator one day since I was young, watching greedy corporations tear the years of work of creative people to shreds to save a few dollars is heart breaking. I’m so glad to see small independent indie animation companies start to make names for themselves, it at least gives some form of hope of the animation industry getting the recognition and love it deserves

[@C0nfettIBrainZ]

Seeing all these animators getting fired and all these shows getting canceled is like taking a room full of kids drawings and setting them on fire

[@lifeisadrag7705]

It makes me so angry too as an artist who became one because of these shows and growing up on them. To have these people's livelihoods ripped away because of greed and lack of heart is despicable to me.

[@lifesymbiont5769]

You could do the same, make your own indie animations and just laugh into their evil corporate faces

[@calebproductions1264]

Lmao all the indie shit that comes out is just weirdos giving us constant edgy swearing crap like helluva boss and stupid goofy ass trash like the cuphead show just for stupid memes, what is there to be glad about?

[@C0nfettIBrainZ]

@@calebproductions1264 I can understand where you’re coming from, I’m not really a big fan of Hazbin hotel or Hellva boss either and it has plenty of problems, but those aren’t the only kinds of animations being made. Stuff like Lackadaisy and The amazing digital circus (No matter how bad its image has been tarnished by KZbin) have shown that they can make beautiful animation and captivating stories. If you don’t like what’s coming out now, there will always be another indie artist with an idea in the future that could be to your interest, it’s just the big guys that set an example of how popular something with a small team can get

[@neilhannan5112]

You know it's bad when Paramount Plus still treats Nickelodeon their animation department with respect 😢

[@davidholanda1]

ignoring them removing some of their originals like Big Nate and Rugrats reboot out of their platform

[@UltimateDragonX9999]

What about Disney channel over bad treatment in animation.

[@ilan_profile]

On the cable side... On tv Nickelodeon is mostly Paw Patrol and Spongebob, while Nicktoons is 24/7 Spongebob and Teennick 24/7 Henry Danger

[@cartoonated]

More like less disrespect, they're still flawed in many areas

[@nickgadson266]

@@davidholanda1At least the entirety of Big Nate is available to watch on KZbin

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

Oh my god Over the Garden Wall fills this 24 year old's heart with so much damn nostalgia. It brought me back to a point in my life where I was a kid again. Also, one show that I remember as a kid was Lost Tapes, which originally aired on Animal Planet. The only reason why it hasn't become lost media entirely is because of fans having archived all three(?) seasons and reposting it on KZbin. They're constantly getting removed by KZbin but within a month, the episodes are back up again. I will forever advocate for the preservation of shows that no longer air, both past, current, and future.

[@kingaxolotl4085]

I loved Lost Tapes as a kid

[@a18yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

8:28 I couldn’t agree with you more here. Honestly never gave that much thought, but it was kids network websites and stuff like Club Penguin and Poptropica that allowed us to stay safe on the internet for so long and avoid damaging our innocence, and now it’s all just going away and it’s scary for the future generations.

[@trashcan9097]

I noticed ever since flash died and kid’s website shutting down I noticed a lot more kids on like discord or twitter . Also the trend of giving your kid unrestricted internet access seem to never change despite the fact of 2 generation of people being negatively affected by it.

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

You know, now I kinda feel like playing hours and hours of computer games actually was one of the best things that ever happened to me. And then it all had to just be taken away from me when I got older and I got exposed to smut.

[@SecretMagician]

​@@trashcan9097crazy how we're not only losing third spaces in real life, but also on the internet too...

[@gaylootomatoe]

i think thats the actual reason roblox got so popular and pedos started appearing everywhere

[@trashcan9097]

@@SecretMagician the internet used a lot more separation I noticed like there was forums for everything and a lot of fan sites but ever since 2010 it been getting more smaller a lot of those fan site and forums have be abandoned or shut down completely. Kinda sad that a lot kid space on the internet has completely shut down

[@Garftism]

Thank you so much for making a video on this genuinely. It means so much to see someone with a large platform speaking about the long and ongoing mistreatment of animators and people within the animation industry. I'm not someone who's pursuing professional animation myself, but many people are and thinking about how it may be a dead profession in a matter of only a few years feels dreadful. It is INSANELY appreciated that animation workers ignited and the "stand with animation" hashtag was directly mentioned, this is something that needs so much more attention brought to it. A world without cartoons and creativity is not one I wanna live in

[@donovan802]

Remember when Cartoon Network confirmed through, I think, a Twitter post around the height of the noticeable brand decline during their 30th anniversary a couple years back? They were like, “Relax, we ain’t dying. We’re just turning 30.” I’m not saying they lied through their teeth. I TEND to give them the benefit of the doubt because so many of the good-hearted staff HAD to have been excited to revitalize the channel with new content or new content sourced from old content, but their power was simultaneously limited, stripped away, and ridiculed by a man who really doesn’t deserve to be in the position he’s been in for this long.

[@boydixonentertainment]

@@donovan802 They had to do that twice because #RIPCartoonNetwork has been a recurring trend over the last year. Either through misinformation or just to gain buzz for the animation strike.

[@Mankey619]

CN has really lost its touch these days, and the studio hasn't shown any new cartoons these past few years now. AdultSwim is the only thing that are showing new animated shows these days, and they're putting CN on life support.

[@CyberKnifeVR]

There is NO WAY Steven Universe, Gumball, and Regular Show cost that much in residuals then they make in return. How could this be a cost saver?

[@cartoonated]

Regular Show definitely had to have high residuals, with all the licensed music they use.

[@lifeisadrag7705]

@@cartoonated Ahh, that's a fair point actually.

[@SneedSeeding]

@@cartoonated Thankfully nobody pays residuals when sailing the high seas.

[@EpicToySeries]

I see these removals as more of Warner not renewing the license to keep them on there (yes, WB (along with other studio-owned streamers) has to license their own shows for their service), as opposed to the first wave from two years ago where it was mainly cost cutting. It's no secret that streaming residuals (whether for original or licensed movies/shows) are practically non-existent. The money earned from them is basically peanuts compared to the tens of millions of dollars these CEOs make annually.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Steven Universe, yes. As for the others, they profit very much and still hold their value.

[@dragondelsur5156]

The way Cartoon Network is treated nowadays deeply depresses me, the shutdown of the building hurt but nothing is worse than your show being treated as a tax write off for a piece of shit to buy another yacht. My heart is with The Animation Guild, and I can only pray that they get the deal they deserve.

[@heckarockstick802]

i highly doubt they will

[@caspr2k]

DUDE THE LACK OF ORIGINAL IP’S SO BAAAAAAADD

[@iangarcia1585]

Ikr

[@JellyOnAPancakeAyyyy]

It’s depressing really

[@collinkeyser6827]

If Only They'd Give Villianous More Of A Chance

[@mikeclarke5732]

The biggest question, how have they not done Galactic Kids Next Door??

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Porque son warner brothers

[@ntfoperative9432]

Because the creator refuses to do it unless he gets full creative control, something the Warner tyrants would never agree to

[@SlavTiger]

i remember sighning a petition for that

[@TurtleReefReal]

UGHHH I WANT GALACTIC KND SO BAD. I need to know what happens!!!

[@RJS2003]

When I was a teen I really wanted to make a cartoon of my own for Cartoon Network some day. Now I realise I'm better off just making it myself. On literally nothing. With no money. And zero motivation to do anything productive. _Bet._

[@SecretMagician]

Indie really IS the last bastion of completely unrestricted creativity in the animation industry.

[@RJS2003]

@@SecretMagician Same goes for Indie games nowadays. The Indies are taking over. Vive la résistance!

[@EarthWingedDragon]

Yessss. Do it.

[@INF2.160]

Good luck

[@MrCjosue24]

Nice! 👍

[@LazybonesInc]

It really is a sad state of affairs when streaming services are announcing a bunch of new revivals of recognizable animated IPs to distract from the fact that they’re treating animators, creators, and original ideas like complete shit.

[@olleselin]

I loved watching the classic era of Cartoon Network during the early 2000s when i was a kid. It was such simpler times for the Industry back then.....

[@mrconroy4672]

I’d say the 1990s-2000s as a whole. Zaslav and the mergers ruined everything.

[@JellyOnAPancakeAyyyy]

@@mrconroy4672the 2010s too

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Something that I think that might also be contributing to this problem is the fact that the internet is becoming a lot more algorithmic and secluded, not allowing for discussion of newer works of fiction to spread enough into the public consciousness unless it’s completely massive right off the bat. We keep going back to previous things that have existed because we can actually remember them existing. Now even those are in jeopardy too due to greed and apathy, this goes for almost all entertainment in general nowadays…

[@KennethFernandez-x2t]

Im going to miss cartoon network:( Edit wow that many likes just wow

[@harrygardner7257]

And we should thank David Zaslav for that

[@ZeepAtomic]

CN: Why won't you love me, dad?! I'll be anything you want me to be! WBD: I want you to be dead!

[@LegendaryMercDC]

Good old billy & Mandy. I miss that show along with courage

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

2000s Cartoon Network will always be peak era, in my eyes.

[@michaelstrong5383]

Those promos where all the cartoon characters new and old are living in a city were amazing.

[@olleselin]

Me too, it was always among my favourite networks to watch as a kid.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

@@michaelstrong5383 Those were my favorite promos. The network was so creative back in those days.

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

Frankly, I think both 2000s and 2010s Cartoon Network eras are great.

[@tenryunaito3763]

Cartoon Network was undefeated in the first half of the 2000s. It was a glorious time for animation fans.

[@lorenacrystal50505]

The fact that I’m legit scared to continue my studies on animation hurts. I want to make shows and have ideas but seeing the way animation is dying right in front of my eyes, AI being used so much and seeing how art itself isn’t being respectful really makes me think I should just change my career 😭😭😭😭 (I probably won’t bc I have no other passion other than art but man this is scary)

[@Wind_Cursed]

Man, as someone who wants to do scriptwriting and prefers animation over live-action (therefore making me want to be a scriptwriter for or at least work on an animated show), I understand that. My whole future's been looking bleak because so many other jobs would just straight up kill me and people, writers and animators, are NOT being treated fairly. Not to mention, I want to stay as far away from California (ESPECIALLY Hollywood and LA) as I can because those big cites would also kill me. It really makes me wonder what the point is anymore

[@lorenacrystal50505]

@@Wind_Cursed yeah LA sucks specially it’s drivers but here is where big corporations are at so 😔

[@Weirdos22146]

Honestly if you have the time and effort start a show on KZbin because even tho corporate is being shit indie animation seems to thrive

[@Gale-burst]

just stay indie and publish to KZbin

[@calebproductions1264]

Bro you can get a job at a construction site to help make road work be done faster or make a homeless asylum for all the crazy people running rampant at San Francisco to make it a safe place again, you act like doing animation is the only job that’s available now.

[@MrTragedious986]

It’s sad to see most of their successes got stripped away after they made decisions after bad decisions, like it doesn’t have the same charm like it used to be.

[@EsmartElectronics]

I feel that way about almost everything today, all the charm is lost and greed has come through making products increasingly poor quality but of course they can make stuff flashy but the heart isn't there anymore

[@aurahoneydew9607]

Really wish Tax Write offs would result in the forfeited show and movie becoming public domain. There's something just strange/wrong about a forfeit that just results in the company still keeping it but keeping it away from people. At least if it was forced to the public domain companies would be more hesitant to vault their stuff and less Zazlov shredding it all.

[@marylikesflowers]

0:03 simple: hearing that Velma got canceled! :D

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

That was the Best Day of my life at one point 😎😌👌

[@olleselin]

Well, at least that's a miracle

[@giantpinkcat]

Oh yay, Velma got cancelled. I'm not gonna be as happy as yall knowing it lasted around the same length as Inside Job.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

@@giantpinkcat Dang.

[@EarthWingedDragon]

Velma got cancelled might be good for collective sanity, but it is yet another rough days for cartoon artists. Nothing ever got canned because of bad quality, any way, it is just the good old, "fewer seasons mean less pay to the working class."

[@MisfortuneDark]

One thing when it comes to the lack of originals on CN that I’m surprised wasn’t brought up is that it feels like anytime something original or at the very least somewhat different compared to their current programming is announced for Cartoon Network like Unicorn, My Adventures With Superman and recently Invincible Fight Girl, most of the time it just winds up getting shoved onto [adult swim] a month or two before it’s release instead due to them being “too violent” or something like that for current day CN even though they wouldn’t feel too out of place when put next to some of the 2010s CN shows. It gotten to the point where it feels like if something like Regular Show, Adventure Time or hell even Steven Universe were announced and released this decade instead of the 2010s chances are those shows would’ve suffered a similar fate to the 3 shows I mentioned above due to being too “risky” for modern CN

[@michaelstrong5383]

While there were a couple of Nicktoons that I enjoyed, I was always a Cartoon Network kid through and through. There was nothing like the feeling of coming home from school on Fridays and watching all new episodes of my favorite cartoon shows. I don't watch much of it anymore. Not just because I outgrew the channel, but because there's hardly anything on these days. Sure, I enjoyed Gumball, We Bare Bears, and Craig of the Creek. However, it's such a barren wasteland recently.

[@dino.nnuggiez]

mao mao heros of pure heart was one of my favorite CN shows, it had so much potential! it couldve been a solid CN modern show but it wasn’t given a chance! s2 was in production but thats definitely not happening anymore, i hate when shows get quietly cancelled.

[@JRRDOfficial]

The fact that CN was getting treated so badly at warner bros. discovery was just sad. And as for adult swim, they've been doing good for this year and last year including blocks like checkered past and toonami rewind.

[@The_Lord_Vader]

Adult swim is the last saving grace in the world of this hell we call the animation industry. Legit the adult swim channel is the middle finger to everyone claiming animation is for kids and the only reason it is not blasted from the face of this earth is because it is bringing money. But fuck me cuz they deleted heavy hitters like regular show, Steven universe, and the such like AAAAAHHH!!! DO THEY NOT LIKE MONEY, FUCKING ZASLAV DO YOU NOT LOVE THE WORD M-O-N-E-Y, WHAT DOES IT SPELL YOU PIECE OF SHITE!!!!! Sorry for that…it is just…why is animation sooo disrespected when it can bring imagination to the screen and inspire many like…I just wonder if Zaslav had an actual child hood where he watched shows, not slop but good shows like the ones mentioned in the video. Honestly he possibly can’t be a human being that was this evil from birth………….at this point if he isn’t fired as CEO at this point, then his next crusade would be Adult Swim…his apparent hatred for the medium of animation, he would just delete everything and just WHY!? It is like throwing pieces of art from Van Gogh or the Mona Lisa into a trash disposal with no return at all. Cuz I also heard he didn’t renew HALF OF THE OG LONNY TOONS!! THAT SHIT IS ACTUAL HISTORY!!! The nerve on this guy. Really he has no reason to do any of this except expand his wallet,

[@LamiaLover]

​@@The_Lord_VaderWestern animation was killed due to arrogance and corporate greed.

[@Mylesledragon]

Exactly and Adult Swim has some great shows, YOLO, Smiling Friends, The Boondocks. ATHF, and so much more. But CN just doesn't have much and they don't even have much variety anymore. Just new Teen Titians Go episodes and 20m Gumball marathons

[@Damitsall]

​@LamiaLover It's also because good shows never get green lit anymore. Notice how the only shows that come out are comedy shows? Remember CN used to have a lot of action/adventure/super hero shows that exemplified the best character traits of man. Now everything is just trash comedy shows, look at all the reboots, their just comedy shows. Instead of teaching kids good vs evil and good character traits, it's all low tier comedy.

[@tp9516]

Adult swim is garbage. Uzumaki and ninja kami were awful

[@neonstarch3210]

Seeing this steady decline of my favorite childhood channel is sad. Most of my favorite cartoons came from CN: Ed, Edd n Eddy, Adventure Time, Samurai Jack, Infinity Train, Codename: Kids Next Door (How was this one not thought of for a revival when the creator has been trying to get one for years?), Ben 10, etc. Not to mention it's getting even harder to watch some of these shows now with even piracy being a pain cause sites are either full of pop-ups or, with the one I use, putting watch time limits on the shows and hiding access to them behind a paywall.

[@KamenRiderAo25330]

This is sad as Cartoon Network was my childhood and as a 14 year old looking back this is sad

[@harrygardner7257]

And David Zaslav should face major backlash

[@FallingStar1080]

You're still a kid my dude lol

[@DA_BOID]

Your childhood has like 3 more years, before being canonically over.

[@JohnDoge-d7d]

​@@FallingStar1080he isn't a child though

[@JohnDoge-d7d]

​@@DA_BOIDit ended 3 years ago

[@zellrang]

cartoon network dies after they canceled the original Teen Titan

[@Gee2Td]

And original Ben 10

[@d.52555]

Not at all, take your nostalgia glasses off 😂. CN died when they stopped producing original content and just kept airing teen titans go as if it was their version of SpongeBob, all day, everyday.

[@pokedoxxxheart1211]

@@d.52555facts as much as I love teen titans that’s not exactly what killed it.

[@michaellane5381]

​@@d.52555I disagree, Titans was the last "serious" yet grounded drama on the network, the stuff afterward was good in a sense, but it was almost all comedic, childish, or had aspects that pulled you out of it that appealed to niche demographics and kids, just look at anime by comparison, sure you have comedies like Konosuba, and even crazier shows, but you still have drama's like Demon Slayer and Golden Kanji almost every season, the closest CN really had after Titans to that kind of show were AT and SU... And neither was particularly grounded.

[@Zeuken]

Mistreated employees and unemployed: We're going on strike, We're going on strike!!!

[@joeycampbell940]

Meanwhile they're treated better than the majority of working Americans.

[@robertburton3906]

Max: OH NO WE'RE LOSING MONEY HOW ARE WE GONNA GET MORE MONEY NOW? A person with common sense: maybe quit removing shows and greenlight canceled projects- Max:WAIT I KNOW LETS REMOVE ADVENTURE TIME

[@donovan802]

It helps that tons of reaction channels are acknowledging the pioneers of CN’s era and the most underrated ones of the era. KND, Chowder, and especially Craig have gotten far more attention from reactions online.

[@GokhanAras-pj1mm]

It is sad seeing CN as a brand dying out and people that working there losing their jobs and having their projects removed while those on the top of the WB Discovery filling their pockets with money without care about employes or art.

[@Phobie_2000]

The Amazing World Of Gumball is peak fiction and that’s all I have to say.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

I’m furious we’ll never get an actual conclusion.

[@michaelstrong5383]

While I agree, I still can't rewatch the last episode. Not because it's bad or anything, but rather because we still haven't gotten a follow-up on that cliffhanger yet.

[@SecretMagician]

​@Cubeytheawesome, the next season is coming out next year, though?

[@isainova874]

TAWOG is in my opinion, the best CN show of all time, nothing can surpass it on its category, but match it? yes.

[@fullmetaltheorist]

Peak humor and character design.

[@dynastyarts2535]

It's so sad how 2000's entertainment is slowly becoming vintage and disappearing from the internet one by one, just like the 1990's content

[@poundsofslothcigars]

every once in a while during a slow day at work I still turn on episodes of chowder, camp lazlo, robot boy, adventure time etc.

[@fe_fanby2278]

My favorite era of Cartoon Network was the later 2010s. Craig of the Creek, Apple and Onion, Summer Camp Island, and Mao Mao Heroes of Pure Heart all come to mind. I slept on OK K.O. and shouldn't have. I watched a bit of it just before it removed off Hulu and I wanna watch more. #Standwithanimation #Savecartoonnetwork

[@juliancaraveo5700]

1:28 Never thought I'd see a Lego Chima mention in a Cartoonshi video.

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

I only played(or at least tried to play) a computer game of that.

[@terminalimpact2771]

Never thought I’d see Lego Chima mentioned at all…

[@CrasherX2000]

Lego Chima jumpscare

[@ticklemedaddy]

Where I live, I don't think it aired on CN, just on one of those whacky European channels!

[@RadiationSkeletonRadiantSkull]

@CrasherX2000 yh 💀💀💀

[@Toshiro93]

0:14 *[insert Charlton Heston's final curse from Planet of the Apes]*

[@olleselin]

It's all David Zaslav's fault!

[@juliancaraveo5700]

To quote Lemon Grab from Adventure Time , " Your Fault !! It's all your fault !!" .

[@Cyanidebeans]

Zaslav is basically a dictator to Warner Bros

[@cartoonated]

It’s more than him. He’s not the only executive at WBD making decisions

[@SilverScribe85]

@@Cyanidebeans Why hasn't he been relieved of duty yet?! Especially since several of WB's film releases have bombed terribly, Joker 2 being a most recent example

[@Cyanidebeans]

@@SilverScribe85 Unfortunately that's just the thing with dictators, they remain in power despite their oppressiveness Zaslav is basically a dictator to Warner, I believe he's actively trying to pull the company under with his bad decisions I don't think Warner is all bad(Those shelved projects were pretty good as heard of), remove Zaslav and the team making him in power and everything will be good again with Warner and maybe even CN

[@tariqpitre6081]

The way you just reached into the back of my mind and pulled forth Lego Chima was absolutely insane😂

[@kingbash6466]

I don't like referring to newer cartoons that have an AT/SU type artstyle as "Cal-Arts" because it's an inaccurate buzzword, but compared to the 2000s where they had an incredible amount of diversity in artstyles, genres, and tones, I hate how modern CN has practically phased out their lineup just to chase that "beanmouth" aesthetic AT and SU made popular for over a decade. Sucks that the action shows with a more realistic art-style end up either dumped in Netflix and Adult Swim or just straight up cancelled.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

Same here. I grew up with those shows from the ‘00s and you can see a huge difference in the diversity of art styles between that era and the 2010s.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

I just do not understand the hate for Calarts. The only thing that looks similar among them is the head shape, how does that make them all “look the same?”

[@michaelstrong5383]

"Inaccurate buzzword" is putting it mildly. The term was originally used by John Kricfalusi when he was criticizing The Iron Giant.

[@lemon5000-tj6nv]

Adventure Time isn’t beanmouth, it’s too different to be considered it It’s like calling regular show beanmouth since it also has designs with noodle limbs, round edges and thin lines But yeah ever since like 2015-ish they’ve been using that soft beanmouth look way to much, at the top of my head the only one that stood out stylistically was OK KO since that show had a rougher look to it, I haven’t watched the show but I could probably look at a design and say “yeah that’s an OK KO character”

[@lemon5000-tj6nv]

@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 Early 2010s still had variety in artstyles Adventure Time had a more simple doodle look to it, Gumball had a mixture of multiple styles from 2d to 3d, Ben 10 had a change in artstyle with Omniverse, Generator Rex had an art-style that was more like the older Ben 10 series, Korra and Thundercats 2011 continued the anime inspired trend that started with 2000s shows like Avatar and Teen Titans, Total Drama continued having that flat blocky look that was popular during the 2000s, Regular Show looked like an adult cartoon if it actually looked good Fish Hooks, Gravity Falls and Steven Universe all came out but that was when the beanmouth was brand new and hadn’t become oversaturated yet Beanmouth didn’t really take off until around 2015/2016 That was when artstyles started to become more homogenous

[@BoopSnootAndTroubleshoot]

This is as sad as the death of Jetix. I will never forgive Disney for turning Jetix to Disney XD

[@darkknightfan7520]

Cartoon Network has meant a lot to me throughout my whole childhood and it provided me a safe haven from family drama & hardships. I can’t help but feel heartbroken about stuff I loved years ago just fading away in front of me.

[@scarlettvulpes7853]

When I was at a panel with the president of Adult Swim and Cartoon Network, Michael Ouweleen, he said that Cartoon Network “will be fine” referencing the bad place it’s been in and how he hopes things will go up here. He also said something along the lines of “Hopefully we’ve seen the worst of it.” #standwithanimation and show your support for these talented artists and writers that bring you the shows you love.

[@deegazercausal]

Watching immediately instead if a month later for once

[@thelibyanplzcomeback]

same lol

[@VitaminNick-k1r]

Honestly all the working conditions of being an animator are what made me just give up on wanting to become one in the first place. Now I’m embraceing being a graphic novel artist.

[@KnuckleDude24]

So before the Discovery merger happened and AT&T was their owners, There was originally quite a lot of plans that we're initiated for the Cartoon Network channel. Former (and short-lived) CN President, Tom Aschiem wanted to make the channel more broadening as a family channel with some dabble into pre-school content (again..) and to form a synergy with their HBO Max streaming service. Developing from two new blocks that initiated their push (Cartoonito & ACME Night), a new Shorts Program for new pilots to potentially become new original shows, New & acquired programming ranging of different kinds, and yes.. they almost we're gonna make live-action shows (again, even though not as hard-on as CN Real was and some animation was involved like a live-action/animated Looney Tunes spin-off series, Tweety Mysteries). But yeah, after the merger. Most of what was initiated got scrapped out with a couple of them living on through different means especially when shopped.

[@KnuckleDude24]

Sure, some of them did depend on spin-offs of existing shows at the time. But they did provide some original projects that we're somewhat lacking on the CN side of things right now other than the upcoming Iyanu. Most of their original projects we're made for Cartoon Network (whether CNS or WBA) are just being left to Adult Swim because of the merger nearly have likely ditched them including Invincible Fight Girl & Unicorn: Warriors Eternal.

[@tylersmith6267]

It just feels like all of the mass creative companies we all grew up with is all becoming hugely awful and falling from the Internet and can’t keep up with all of it

[@TwisterzX0_VIII]

as someone who was a big cn fan, my personal favorite cn shows regular show and powerpuff girls. Its really depressing. The sudden rebrands, mergers, etc keep on sucking the color out of everything shits all confusing

[@Active_Genesis]

The Miguzi block on Cartoon Network was one of the main things I looked forward to as a kid. Code Lyoko to this day stands as one of the shows I think could really use a modern day revival, but not by Cartoon Network. I personally think the world of Lyoko deserves to be explored more, either by reviving the old cast, or by introducing a new cast of characters. Code Lyoko, Ben 10, Teen Titans, and so many other shows made up my childhood, and it saddens me to see them all slowly fade into not being relevant anymore...

[@kingkirby1394]

I swear if the phantom thieves in P5 existed in 2024 every palace would be okumuras 😂

[@melpert_frog]

The way I see it, with Cartoon Network and the whole animation industry in shambles during the whole streaming era. The only way to go from here is up. No matter how long it may take, there's always a light at the end of the tunnel.

[@VitaminNick-k1r]

Seeing this is making me realize just how depressing modern entertainment is in general, I miss 2021, the final year before the industry plunged into chaos.

[@calebproductions1264]

2021 had the worst “entertainment” of this decade ever, free guy is a prime example as to why comedy needs to die already.

[@VitaminNick-k1r]

@@calebproductions1264 what do you have against comedy and free guy?

[@heckarockstick802]

and this is why we should all kill ourselves

[@AmbiguousMan724]

​@@VitaminNick-k1rI think he means bad comedy of which free guy is an example.

[@pokedoxxxheart1211]

I think you mean 2019-2022 that’s when everything started dying off

[@O.D25]

5:38 don‘t forget the planned CW adaptation which had its first episodes script leaked which was so bad the Internet bullied that show out of production.

[@BadEndingGamer]

I mean there's villainous on CN but that's in Mexico mainly and theres an english dub on Max (im still waiting on season 2 but given the state of the network...) villainous is pretty good

[@Cubeytheawesome]

Dawg not even Black Hat would stoop this low.

[@SecretMagician]

​@Cubeytheawesome, are you kidding me? He'd be a big fan of Zaslav. /s

[@kitestar]

You hear they got markiplier?

[@Stew91]

"When was the last time you heard anything good about streaming?" - Arcane season 2 hype!! Also, glad you called out the "Cartoons were better back in my day", B.S.

[@bentonbell3690]

Everyday piracy is becomming less and less of a bad thing

[@SecretMagician]

That guy who created Valve was right. Internet piracy only exists when companies deliver subpar results.

[@Random_User666]

As someone who grew up in the 2010’s, none of you can feel the regret I have with the fact that I grew up with Nickelodeon more than Cartoon Network.

[@blu3g]

Now, I'm not advocating for murder, but if a seemingly intentional and coincidentally perfect accident that results in Zaslav's death were to occur, is anybody really gonna be that upset?

[@harrygardner7257]

Not me we are going to celebrate on his grave

[@thelibyanplzcomeback]

wink wink

[@ZeepAtomic]

I'd say a supervillain's defeat would call for a celebration.

[@harrygardner7257]

@@ZeepAtomic celebrate good times come on

[@EllaAnimates543]

I’d kinda be upset, Zaslav does still have a family (I’m not trying to Meatride Zaslav with this) But if he were to die, I’d guess either his wife or kids would be the new CEO, and considering how Zaslav’s in his 60’s, he’s probably gonna die soon. (My guess: mid 2040’s)

[@gameoverhell]

"Please the investors, not the fans" has been the mantra everywhere in the entertainment industry. It's been impacting video games for open-trade companies everywhere too unfortunately.

[@GodsLeastFavorite-vs3xv]

15:37 he broke the cycle

[@ADUMBMAN]

I like how the sound you use to censor swearing is just one note but i already know it’s the buddy holly riff cuz my brain has corroded

[@MaskGamer7-k7x]

0:08 TADC came to Netflix WITHOUT being OWN by Netflix

[@sashamurashi225]

Warner Bros is JUST allergic to money I SWEAR TO GOD 💀💀💀💀💀

[@TimmyTheTinman]

I know I had a feeling if marketed well Coyote vs Acme if marketed well could’ve been the sleeper hit of 2022 and could’ve led to the revitalization of the Looney Tunes introducing them to a new generation of fans but WB panicked because of Space Jam 2 underperforming and in the process screwed over all of the people that poured there hearts and soul for that movie. But this story may have a happy ending, executives at WB are either getting fired or resigning left and right thanks to the failure of Joker 2 and the company struggling overall, Zazlav will be lucky to have a job by next year

[@ItsAubreeyy]

4:23 CN's progamming is varied, but i feel like we have sadly gone back to the early 1990s era where all they had was reruns of older episodes. That is essentially all that plays today not counting tiny toons looniversity. I don't even see ivandoe or we baby bears unless its a new episode because gumball replaces their spot

[@sirwheeliez]

yeah afaik ivandoe only airs as a 2-3 minute short once a day

[@johnthechoochooaddict796]

Cartoon Network would go downhill after the 2007 Boston Bomb Scare and never really recovered. The fact the 2008 Writers Strike happened a year and a half later did not help matters.

[@jakubn3809]

Finally someone that admits that CN Reneisance isn't perfect.

[@Tornado1994]

This. Jim Samples' Resignation was the beginning of the decline.

[@charliebaker1427]

Eh nah after ttg became most of the programming

[@fusetunes]

what happened to cn genuinely breaks my heart. they were my favorite tv animation studio and shows like adventure time having crew presence online were how i learned about animation production and convinced me that was what i wanted to do as a career (rip). not long after, i entered an animation contest they hosted with an absolutely crappy entry, and they still sent me an employee giftset of some little trays and a jake t-shirt with a handwritten letter attached telling me to keep going, which is still one of my treasured possessions to this day. in 2018 i visited california on vacation as an adult and went out of my way to drive past the studio and take a picture by it- i almost went on a separate business trip to actually see inside too but it unfortunately fell through. i had no idea that literally a couple years later that same building would be a husk. i think a lot of people my age with similar goals felt the same way and it's wild that 'working for them' isn't even a tangible goal that exists at this point

[@BToons10]

I think the closure of the headquarters really made CN feel like a shell of its former self

[@SpectacularMarioBros.]

I really feel bad for Cartoon Network. It was my second favorite out of the victory. Nickelodeon was my personal favorite, but Cartoon Network has some banger cartoons and I hope maybe maybe in a for future hope it gets better.

[@toonabby4156]

It really says something about WB when they treat Discovery Kids (both the US DCF and LatAm versions) better than Cartoon Network.

[@mibswashere]

a fosters reboot for preschoolers is so wild because of how many years its been off the air. i was between 6-8 when it was airing and now i'm 25, it must be there to try to nostalgia bait young parents bc theres no way even older kids today have watched fosters home.

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

Judging by the look of the show, it’s just going to be one of those shows that are soecifically for very young kids. It’s going to be one of those baby daycare-like shows that no one really liked, even as a kid. Or at least as a kid I never liked those types of shows whatever. They had no plot or little adventure, and always just made me wonder as to why CN isn’t just playing the orginal show instead of this slop.

[@hannah60000]

Before Disney XD was Toon Disney. When Disney got rid of Toon Disney it marked its slow exit out of animation, particularly 2D animation.

[@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel]

all three of the major cartoon channels kinda suck now, Disney has literally cancelled most its cartoons past 2022 (except Hamster and Gretel and big city green) Nick has 2 shows that get treated well and cartoon network has done all of this. at this point animation needs to do something big or i fear we'll enter a dark era for animation

[@sy_alty]

I genuinely cannot name any of the original shows that premiered on Cartoon Network in the 2020s. The closest I know is We Baby Bears and that's an obvious cash grab spinoff.

[@amberhernandez]

2:57 - Weezer⁉️

[@Buddy_0llie]

oh my god i scrolled for so long looking for this comment because what lmao

[@user-vi4xy1jw7e]

I don't get it

[@user-vi4xy1jw7e]

​@@Buddy_0llieI don't understand

[@Anthony_Stockton09]

@@user-vi4xy1jw7esame

[@PIKACHUxSNEASEL64]

Let’s hope Cartoon Network doesn’t suffer the same fate as Rooster Teeth

[@robertfaulkkner5508]

1:27 DAMN, deep cut, Toonshi.

[@TheDigitalApple]

On an unrelated note……Velma has been canceled and is not getting another season……yay.

[@svxd7369]

Seeing Cartoon Network being treated like this makes me feel horrified and saddened because it is basically my childhood getting destroyed.

[@MrLucky6888]

*Biggering slowly intensifies in background*

[@boydixonentertainment]

Might as well be the industry theme song at this point.

[@itshollywood0726]

I like how you discussed not just the problem with Cartoon Network ultimately being shut down but even “children safe spaces on the internet that would protect them from mature content” That hit home, you earned my subscribe

[@willropa4226]

The original IPs business just hurts now. These people are so scared of taking a chance anymore, they'd rather play it safe with their long dead cash cows, and it just hurts to see all these great shows with so much potential be shut down before finding their conclusion.

[@gabrielmcdougald5250]

Cartoon network during the 2000s and early 2010s (2010-2013) era were the most legit era in my opinion

[@Toontastic_Juju]

It’s so depressing to see how WB is doing business now. Thanks a lot Zaslav!

[@covexlight6154]

Personally, the corporate greed is no only hurting animations, is hurting the whole entertainment and even every aspect of America in general.

[@KGKSkull]

I blame ttg for the decline, not for its bad quality but because of how it flooded the schedules. And for how inappropriate some episodes were.. ttg should’ve been a warning because of how it shows everything wrong with Warner bros, greed from the poor animation and inappropriate writing, more greed and laziness from the lack luster and unvarying merchandise of the show, and bitterness from how it insulted the audience of the reboot and old show. Ttg became the SpongeBob of CN, and that’s not a good thing at all

[@charliebaker1427]

Absolutely it was easily the notable death of the network

[@KGKSkull]

@@charliebaker1427 ttg and other horrid western shows are why I have been going for more unusual media

[@KGKSkull]

@@charliebaker1427 not the death of the network more like ttg was a diseased growth that just kept growing.

[@patricklauer4452]

You wanna know the craziest thing TTG isn’t even made by CN Studios it’s just a WB toon. So CN is just spamming the schedules with a show that wasn’t made by them