What Happens to Children in Hell? Hazbin Hotel Theory & Analysis!

[@CartoonUniverse]

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[@Dingo_Dogma]

I haven’t seen a video on the theory but has anyone else notice the flask mayday had was filled with the same coloured fluid as angel blood? And that might have something to do with how that fish transformed to a leviathan?

[@alexandroograce]

My phone is bugging so I need to reply to a comment bc I can’t create one myself I have another theory that Rosie is a fallen angel exorsist bc she does have a feathered neck

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

To anyone stunned there are kids in Hell, you should probably do a little digging as there are multiple stories of kids who've done HORRIFIC stuff and in some cases they aren't the least bit sorry about it. Just cuase someone is a kid doesn't automatically mean they are innocent. Also Sinners don't age once they arrive meaning it's more likely they only look like kids but have been in Hell for a long time and would be considered adults.

[@shacharlem4424]

Yeah I've heard about the Slenderman incident.

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

True but unfortunately this show I feel what really ask the big questions

[@samanthamaclean1430]

Yeah, I was

[@Sifya]

yes but hh universe looks like based on universial dannation. If you are choosen one, you go in heaven, if not not matter you are simple person, you can live with assasssins ra...

[@andrewjack2358]

@@shacharlem4424Search the Murder of James Bulger.

[@TheBigE9999]

Something pointed out to me in a fanfic is that not all cannibals want to eat flesh. If kids were trapped somewhere and had to eat a corpse to survive, that could still net them a spot in hell. Then because they're a cannibal type demon like Rosie, they wind up with a natural craving for more

[@lmg-desi-yt]

That's a good point, especially if you look up some seriously messed up events that took place in Russian and other parts of the world during war times, there are a few cases of people (maybe even entire families) turning cannibal to survive the hard times they were forced in to. History is messed up when you dig in the right spots

[@Scarshadow666]

@@lmg-desi-yt Very true! 0_0

[@Scarshadow666]

I wouldn't be surprised that stuff like this will make Charlie's case for the hotel hold water and help with offering a good regulation/vetting system for it too. Like Angel Dust and Sir Pentious, kids that probably committed cannibalism out of desperation and otherwise wouldn't wish to in better circumstances would definitely end up getting a place in heaven.

[@minaashido518]

Those eyeless grey cannibals are born in hell anyway

[@dunno4228]

What fanfic is that

[@nerdynanny]

Plot Twist: Hell for kids is Neverland and managed by an entirely separate overlord known as the Pan.

[@kimberlyrodrigues2998]

Given how seriously screwed up and cruel Peter Pan actually is, this totally tracks

[@hubertberrum6242]

as in the goat guy from Greek and Roman myths?

[@mizv4043]

fun fact: a part of Alastor's honor code includes protecting children. Can you imagine being a diddler getting into hell, finding a kid and then being faced with the radio demon?

[@JDCarcosa]

And the cannibal kid shares a ‘’meal‘ ’with Uncle Alastor! Best ending🎉

[@8h8_illustrates]

Or nifty really

[@sabschatz]

@@8h8_illustrates isnt nifty in her 20s or 30s?

[@8h8_illustrates]

@@sabschatz nifty looks sweet and innocent

[@YourMuseBillCipher]

@@JDCarcosacute

[@Lucky_RFMDA]

I can see specific groups of sinners with angelic weapons hunting child abusers in hell, like how in prisons IRL if someone is found out he committed those crimes, is pretty much a death sentence.

[@AureusYoutube]

Can we make it canon that if you kill a certain number of these, you become an Overlord?

[@vee1267]

@@AureusKZbina pedo-hunting overlord would be amazing lmao.

[@J1P2K]

I remember a scene in a plot where the police are looking for a child killer. The child's father is in prison, and he makes it clear that any enemies he has would never go after his kid. They find the killer, but can't prove he did it, but they are able to send him to prison for missing his parole hearings. While starting to enter the prison, the CK looks over at the child's father, and it is made clear by all the prisoners' looking at him that the CK is not going to make through the night.

[@poxidog]

I imagine that's how a lot of the overlords got their power, making protection deals, either a "I look after my people" or a "I step on bugs I don't care about" thing

[@Gorgon_Gorgon]

Typically in prison chomos aren't outright killed. They are beaten, abused, raped and extorted by gangs. So in hell if other sinners found out what you did they would probably kill you over and over again and torture you until you made a soul deal with them so that they could use you for profit or personal enjoyment.

[@avatale8612]

Ik that husk is a cat hecause he apparently hated cats, but i think its more involved with his gambling life; usually when you go to a casino, there are lots of well dressed people in suits like tuxedos, so as a result, hes not just a cat, hes a tuxedo cat. I also think its because of how cats are in general. cats tend to act aloof, rude, and mean, but are cuddly and loving once they warm up to you, this goes with how Husk presents as gruff and mean, snapping at and cursing at everyone, but is actually a big softie

[@AnOddlyFortune]

I love cats

[@KyrieChii]

Husk was raised in a Vegas casino (which introduced him to his habits early)... Then he became a magician he performed in casinos (thus the wings which I think refer to a magician's cape, or magic tricks). The card suits are self explanatory. He also traveled the world during his life & is fluent in several languages, at least from the info I've seen.

[@TheDaxter11]

@@KyrieChii Him being able to seemingly summon his weapons from thin air, like when he poofed those dice into existence during his fight alongside Angel, might also be a nod towards the magician thing. At least, I think those dice poofed into existence. I've slept since I saw that scene.

[@AdamIshak01]

I wanna know why he hates cats 😩

[@Palafico3]

Cats are also associated with things like luck

[@J1P2K]

I have this funny idea where a new sinner arrives in Hell and after a quick guild asks, "Where's Hitler?" It quickly cuts to a scene with Sinner Hitler tied up and gagged to a pole with a sign over head that reads, "Free kill for exorcists!"

[@Sly-Moose]

He'd had already been long seen exterminated then 😂

[@J1P2K]

@@Sly-Moose Yeah, I forgot to mention the part where the guild says, “He didn’t last long.”

[@Gorgon_Gorgon]

But if Hitler was in hell that would also mean millions of German and axis soldiers as well as thousands of neo Nazis would also be in hell and they would probably protect him at all costs

[@Inactive_Account29283]

@@Gorgon_Gorgonalso soviets and members of the french resistance

[@Sly-Moose]

@@Gorgon_Gorgon You act as if they all arrived in Hell all at once. They would have arrived in batches and still be picked off. Plus, overlords and angels could just take out a whole bunch of em at once. They wouldn't have stood a chance. Besides, them all being already delt with is much more preferred rather than the latter, wouldn't you agree?

[@demonprincess9680]

I always thought Hell would leave it as an "Everyone for themself" kind of thing regardless of how old a person was when they died. And most of the kids would wind up in Cannibal Town because Rosie made it into the nicest place in hell. You notice, Cannibal Town has more children than anywhere in hell. I imagine kids would grow attached to the kindness Rosie managed to create in that one portion of the pride ring and would adjust and learn to enjoy cannibalism just to stay among them.

[@smexehcougah3]

My head-canon is that the majority of child-like sinners are actually adults who were cruel to children in life and now have to spend all eternity looking like one so they know how it feels to be small and powerless.

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

I agree but Charlie seems to only look at the surface level not deeper I mean like they ser pentious WAS trying to take over the city if he had succeeded would he really have changed

[@llkjhv8250]

Thank you for this🙏🏼

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

@@coolestbean24 same but will the show say that or just give Charlie another unjust cause to take up

[@mayceehash8434]

This is my headcanon as well

[@tovarishchfeixiao]

@@wolfsbanealphas617 But isn't Sir Pentious did the over take thing for attention?

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Considering the demon children have the cannibal look, we can make an informed guess about why they are there. The children Moxxie killed in the first proper episode of Helluva Boss probably went to hell and specifically the cannibal colony.

[@Blitzy178]

They are hell born lol

[@Ixbran]

Theres also a theory that people who make contracts with overlords take on physical attributes of said overlord. It could be the cannibal children look the way they do because Rosie contracted them in order to keep them safe and taken care of, so long as they follow her rules

[@LupineInvisible]

One thing everyone seems to overlook is that you can become a cannibal without wanting to devour people. Just check some of the famine parts of history, people had to resort to cannibalism to survive, sinful or not. If the kid was born in one of those time periods...

[@minaashido518]

Those cannibals are almost definitely hellborn It’s not just a look for dead cannibals which you can clearly tell by Alastor, a cannibal who died who’s only similarity with them is fashion sense and skin He has eyes and the hellborn do not He’s a deer and the hellborn are all just demons with no animalistic qualities And most importantly the creators have said that Rosie is hellborn and she’s one of them

[@AwesomGuy971]

⁠@@minaashido518Vaggie wouldn’t have been punished if the child was a hellborn since executioners aren’t supposed to kill them in the first place. I think everyone who makes a contract with Rosie has to look like that so that they aren’t mistaken for other sinners and avoid getting eaten. Also technically they said Rosie didn’t die to get to hell. So there are a few other possible explanations other than she was hellborn. Like maybe she’s a fallen angel, or maybe she stole an asmodean crystal from a succubus when she was alive and went to hell willingly. There are many other possibilities to explain Rosie being there. That livestream was also pretty old so idk if the writers are still going to stick with what they said.

[@wolfofthenorthwinds7477]

In some mythology; angels are depicted as emotionless or lack compassion towards evil (or what they see as evil) so they can carry out gods will and/or "greater good" without question or hesitation. Angels do have emotion in this show, but the exorcists (and seraphim) are clearly expected to show that type of dedication; given how Vaggie was severly punished just for showing mercy to a demon child or how Em was warned about questioning heaven. So heaven being more harsh and brutal than hell is not that surprising.

[@gloriannavargas7536]

That's very true, there are sometimes where angels are the bad guys even in real life.

[@CatraIsAdora-ble]

I'd imagine that with kids, smaller sins do a lot more than if they were an adult. Such as every little lie, maybe stealing a single piece of candy can have more effect for younger people around 5-21 years old compared to an 80 year old.

[@celestialwish1478]

I feel like “Women” might be left out of the equation in Hazbin Hotel proper, as Valentino is apparently perfectly fine and allowed to operate. We can even see him going after a woman before Angel Dust ‘saves’ Niffty from interacting with him. He even tried to go after her.

[@sonorasgirl]

Yeah, I don’t think there’s a gendered construct here at all - Val is abusive to everyone, regardless of gender, and is one of the overlords. And they don’t seem to be avoiding SA, which, while DEFINITELY happens to both genders, is more common to women

[@cyrae117]

Imagine being highly trained only for one to be beaten up by kids.

[@Arkus]

I think the situation with Vaggie being ruthlessly demoted to Fallen just for sparing a child was more a result of the Exhorcists (Or rather Lute in particular) bloodthirsty and extreme mindset. To them, everything in hell is filthy hellspawn that must be killed, end of discussion. Rather than being an attitude Heaven has as I imagine that Sera is rather hands off in the running of the Exhorcists and leaves it mostly to Adam until something that would effect Heaven comes up. So it's very likely she is unaware of anything they do, and probably had no idea they demoted one of their own, and if she was more involved would of demanded they bring Vaggie to her first.

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

Sera seemed like she was well aware of the changes to the culling and didn't seem to bothered with Adam changing the timeline. She seemed more concerned of elle witnessing it, and the fear of Hell uprising. Sera I think would have likely exterminated Vaggie without a second thought.

[@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769]

This is extremally accurate to the Bible but for some reason, it's not considered evil when it's there.

[@Eric6761]

​@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_SerpentSera didn't care, so much that the only rules she put was: "not talking about extermination with anyone except her and other exterminators" and" not letting heaven know anything" beyond that he could do anything

[@Scarshadow666]

I wouldn't be surprised that some of the kids in hell could help with Charlie's argument for having a redemption system via the hotel (provided that a good regulation/vetting system is also in place). Kids being considered "evil" or not is a slippery slope because of kids being humans with still developing brains, so a kid doing what they do because the adults hadn't taught them any better is usually a failing of the adult. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the cannibal kids could get their way into heaven because their parents fed them human meat or they were desperate during tough time periods.

[@chickadeestevenson5440]

Considering the unifying theme of most of the cannibals, I'm thinking lots of them are from the same era. An era when lots of kids died, and a lot of them were probally criminals and executed. Because the past was the worst.

[@Scarshadow666]

@@chickadeestevenson5440 Yeah, makes me wonder what it was that would have killed the sinner kids since their attire seems to be early 1900s (unless they're actually from different timelines and changed clothing styles when adopted by the denizens of Cannibal Town). They had some crappy child labor laws and a lot of messed-up stuff that happened during WWI and the Spanish Flu so it's possible the kids could've experienced some messed-up stuff from that... 0_0

[@Bubbasdumbscience]

Damn kids be commitin crimes too

[@Bubbasdumbscience]

@@Kamenriderdecade105 I mean… they prolly commiting crimes too

[@Bubbasdumbscience]

@@Kamenriderdecade105 old lore tho, could be invalid, I hope not though because there’s some freaks in this shows hell

[@Lazyspaceout]

​@@Kamenriderdecade105 Actually no in the first episode of helluva boss, we see two cannibal children that actively help their parents kill even had their own guns, there is no way they can get into heaven

[@dietotaku]

@@Lazyspaceout the child that vaggie let go also looked like a resident of cannibal town, definitely not hellborn

[@GamerMage2k-kl4iq]

Where do you think some of those kids who are straight up self centered psychopaths go???

[@lucas_vermeire]

Love that Hell has that prison mentality, where everyone who did something to women or children gets the worst of it all :D There really is some good in everyone

[@Luci-morningstar--]

Hell yeah!

[@coolchrisable]

its more of a rule of convince if anything since hell would have to have had people from all of human history meaning for a vast majority even up to voxs time of death would still have a huge number of people who did that stuff and would techinically be more of them than people who would find that stuff absolutely horrible espically those that fought in wars and know how to fight so they wouldnt be easy to take down. i would assume its not really a prison mentallity it comes down to if you have money or power you can do what ever you want. hell even in actual prison if you have money and power regardless of what you did the others wont mess with you.. unless its someone who has absolutely nothing to loose.

[@CrimsonReapa]

@@coolchrisable that may be true with SOs but if they harmed a child and are not put in the isolated police protection wings many prisons have then it's only a matter of time before the other prisoners find out what they did and some one takes them out.

[@coolchrisable]

@@CrimsonReapa I'm specificly talking about SOs remember even in prison money talks where people will look the other way if you have money or connections theain reason alot of so's we hear about getting their ass beat is cause they don't have these or their resources ran out

[@CrimsonReapa]

@@coolchrisable dude theres a reason they have to separate SOs (esp if there crime involves a child/minor victim) from general pop bc the other prisoners will kill them.

[@MiscellaneousMaZ]

Love the idea of their being a place for kids (maybe even teens?) in hell. Like a messed up version of disney world!

[@brenna4988]

Lu Lu World 😮

[@MiscellaneousMaZ]

@@brenna4988 Oh my lucifer, YES! Lulu World is just the place where all kids in hell go to cause chaos!

[@TheGrayAllay]

Heck instead of hell?

[@MiscellaneousMaZ]

@@TheGrayAllay 🤣

[@SolsisEquone]

@@TheGrayAllay heck is where the canadians go (livestream lore)

[@zakirstocks9514]

I never would've thought that kids so young in this show could've ended up in Hell. This is definitely Cruel, Evil and Merciless.

[@Lazyspaceout]

Well some kids did commit murder when they were alive which has been shown in helluva boss

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Dude the kid's a Cannibal, that by definition makes him evil and I've seen more than few cases that happened where kids not only committed horrific crimes but weren't even sorry about it.

[@eca2009]

there's many bad things a child can do to get into Hell, for example: murder or attempted murder theft robbery cannibalism abuse bully (it kinda counts in my book) i think i'm leaving somethings out but oh well-

[@ryankwon8785]

@@thefanwithoutaface8105 They could have been born during a terrible period in history like the Great Depression or the Industrial Revolution and were forced to eat a human corpse to survive. Even a small action like that can put a kid into Hell. Nevertheless, cannibals are one of the "nicest" groups of Sinners in Hell.

[@zakirstocks9514]

@@eca2009 Yeah, I definitely see your point there dude.

[@ChipitaDraws]

I could imagine a colony of free-range children in hell, inspired by Neverland or Lord of the Flies

[@suicune2001]

I found this one to be really interesting. I hadn't given children a whole lot of thought but it would make sense hell would behave like a prison system. As we know, even criminals can have moral standards. Picking on someone who is helpless to defend themselves could be in bad taste for someone who is used to dealing with physical violence.

[@clairemercer3099]

Nobody knows what makes a soul go to heaven which means other than the obvious sins you could wind up inhell. We've seen a teenager who was a murder victim in Helluva Boss in one episode and the fairly innocent child that Vaggie lost her eye for.

[@piercepayumo4212]

Not gonna lie, I was disturbed to know there are children who gets damned to Hell but oh well.

[@PeachWookiee]

Given how Mama Martha’s kids were and how some kids are in real life, I can believe it.

[@piercepayumo4212]

Oh yeah. That's very true.

[@MewDenise]

Why? This is a make belief show. It's for entertainment.

[@straneas3099]

I mean if hell is real, there is DEFINITELY some kids here. You don't need to search for hours to find some of the most horrific scrime kids have done, and they regrets absolutely nothing.

[@C0sm0zz_st4r]

Some kids are wild lol

[@HelluvaHazbinfan33]

Personally I think that sinner children would either be put into the adoption system or the work trade as there would seem to be very little laws, but if they were reunited with their families then they would be able to live normally like they did on earth but in hell

[@Bunni524]

Same I agree with ya on that ^-^

[@seeleunit2000]

They'd definitely be the unpaid labor force, because it's Hell and no one really cares.

[@Nella_nova]

if thier parents ended up in hell they may not want to reunite with them

[@bakayaroonna8]

Honestly, I have no idea why the only place we see children is in Cannibal Town. It may be they search for them to bring them into the colony.

[@mysticmystic325]

As a person with a disability, I would like to have a video dissecting how disabled people are treated in hell in the show please❤😊

[@darkblightballas7445]

​@LordOfQuesoI think they are made episode of that with fizz

[@seeleunit2000]

If I had to take a guess they would most likely be treated as everyone else (since Hell isn't about showing difference to anyone unless you have power and super terrifying). Though, seeing more disability representation would be nice, period.

[@sucyshi]

Does there exist a sinner with a disability in hell? Is it not just hellborn?

[@9TDF]

disabilities might not exactly translate to manifestation in heaven or hell. Say there is a drunk driver the t-bones a car with a family of 4. Mom and a kid dies. That gets the drunk into hell. The drunks legs are some how mangled to the point amputation is needed and their car catches fire leaving with severe burns all over their body the burns rob them of eye site . They die a few years later from health complications from their injures. They manifest in hell with new legs (fully Functional but maybe deformed looking), eye sight, and new skin. Their form representing being a drunkard, reckless driving, fire.

[@poxidog]

Reminds me of the guys in hell of a boss, ep 3 or 2 or something, the mad scientist guys. They died old because of their machine. The second was wheelchair bound, so his bottom half was kind of like, you know that guy in robots with the big ball as his underside. That said that guys disability was linked to his sins and death. He made a machine, tried it on himself out of pride which caused him to need the chair, and then died because the wheelchair prevented him moving out the way in the theater seating when the piano fell (very loonitoons)

[@OriasRofocale]

It would be interesting if the cannibals are actually a native species of Hell, so by hesitating, technically Vaggie was even doing the right thing by the terms of the agreement of Heaven, but Lute was just fine with claiming any Hell kills. Probably passed them off as an accident/ mistaken identity. This would also mean Charlie was extra safe by being recognizably of angel heritage and well known as the princess, but sometimes sinners look a little like an imp or a succubus, so kids of those types could get confused.

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

Adam made it very clear that the only reason that Charlie was safe was due to her father and heavens agreement. He also made it clear that her screwing the rules would put her as risk and eventually did for execution.

[@OriasRofocale]

@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent yeah, but he was able to attack her. It wasn't magically barred. So he respected the rules enough not to. It could be that native species usually go deeper into the rings for safety during the Extermination. Cannibals could be a native species and the child just missed curfew and got mistaken for a sinner. I imagine mistakes might happen, Lucifer in his depression would probably not be as attentive to the accidental native kill that wasn't his daughter.

[@UltraCenterHQ]

8:34 I just realized... That's a cannibal colony child

[@Numbuh900]

I wonder how Charlie would redeem child sinners? Hazbin Daycare probably?

[@arabelladerenee]

That would actually be so cute

[@Avisrex1995]

I feel like even Alastor would spend his free time hunting these sorts of people down who have hurt kids. "Yes I killed people in my earth life, but my dear there is one big difference... I have standards. I'm the Radio demon, not a monster."

[@godversesans5152]

"Not a monster" he literally threatened husk to do what he says or he would take his soul and broadcast his screams for all to hell to listen to

[@Avisrex1995]

@godversesans5152 ... fair, I momentarily forgot about that. But that's still to an adult... idk how old nifty is supposed to be but if she's young then I'd hope it wouldn't have been the same if she was in husk's place.

[@chickadeestevenson5440]

@@Avisrex1995 early twenties I think?

[@_Look_-le5wj]

Like 22 or something ​@@Avisrex1995

[@midnightleomutt7817]

I figured if kids didn't die and go to hell it would be a case of a sinner who "never grew up" dying and manifesting as a kid. It's sad to see that maybe the case. There could also be a thing where some kids could be the children of hellborn demons and the exorcists just don't care. A ton of angles (except for Sera and maybe others higher up) didn't even know about the extermination. So the exorcists avoid the other rings but everything in the Pride ring is fair game! " Oh, I killed an imp/hellhound? Oh well, thought they were a sinner!"

[@SilverScribe85]

For the next Hellaverse video, might I recommend one talking about how places like Bee's crib and Cannibal Town look...surprisingly welcoming, in spite of the fact both places reside in Hell

[@lmurph2987]

I actually didn't think the kids in cannibal town (or any of the cannibals) are human souls - I think they're the native species of the pride ring (like the imps in wrath or sharks in greed or hounds in gluttony). Everyone in the cannibal town looks exactly the same and it just feels so much like an organicly formwd community to me (like in the wrath ring the imp community), rather than a mishmash of human sinners (they tend to have really unique forms)

[@joeymanus8751]

You know what childern in hell and heaven could be an interesting episode being what desides why kids go to heaven or hell the kdd steals a toy or bullys someone and then gose yo hell dosent seem fair

[@dietotaku]

you know there have been kids who killed other kids, right? like on purpose, tortured them first and everything

[@joeymanus8751]

@@dietotaku yeah but not all of them you really think in the show all kids deserve to go to hell Velvet deserves to go to hell she's a kid

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

@@dietotaku You missed the whole point of what he said however. He's pointing out it would be a interesting episode to see how kids are judged. Your only pointing out the extremes of those who are obviously evil, but he's pointing out the possibility that some could be thrown in hell for things that kids do as kids. Lets put it in another perspective. Technically by Christian views. A child that was not baptized could be thrown in hell. Never did anything wrong, never was a bad kid, obeyed the rules, yet wasn't baptized so down to hell they go. Wanna explain that one?

[@KieranByers]

​@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent based on what I heard about the series, as well as relevant fan theories, you can be sent to hell for LITERALLY any reason, possibly even for no reason.

[@Audiotechnica-tj3nr]

​@@KieranByerswe haven't seen a single sinner that didnt do horrible things in life though?

[@jadeheart4587]

Now that i think about it, have we even seen any sinner children that *weren't* cannibals? Not necessarily meaning to imply that cannibalism is an automatic ticket to hell (which on one hand would morally make sense but on another hand i cant help but feel it a bit unfair and the question of "how much is the kid actually guilty of and how much of it was the parents choices in their lives"), but moreso as a detail that might be worth looking at

[@eca2009]

i think after we sawed the cannibal hild Vaggie spared the people were like 'ALRIGHT BRING IN MORE CANNIBAL CHILDREN' but i hope e get to see other children that aren't cannibals, might asell be a ticket to expose us to bad things children can do while they're still young and erase the message of children being harmless beings who do no wrong

[@meave7757]

The only children in hell are from the cannibal district, and if maybe they are born in hell like the Imps and Hellhouds?

[@Feline-STARS]

Husk being in his 80 is crazy to me I always thought that he was in his late 30’s to early 40’s. And now I’m questioning HuskerDust😨

[@KennyLastname]

​@@acedreamer2004 Well they're both adults plus Husk died way after Angel did so theoretically they could've been around the same age at one point when they were both still alive

[@sarahb8695]

yeah, that's older than I've heard. even then, 60's-70's still felt a bit older than he seemed. I think I'd personally put him in the 40's-50's category but that's just me.

[@samanthamaclean1430]

Really he’s from the 80s I thought he was from the same decade as Alistair and why they match so good

[@violetlight1548]

They're literal demons in hell. Do you really think they'd care one bit about an age gap?

[@celestialwish1478]

When people are immortal it’s kind of hard to pin down stuff like that. Especially if it’s been long enough that age is literally just a number. If someone is 180 vs 100, it’s just not that big of a deal anymore. You’ve lived so long it feels like it evens out y’know? Angel was in his mid-30s and died in 1947. Assuming that’s 35, 2024 - 1947 = 77 years. 77 + 35 = 112. Angel Dust is probably 110-114 Years old, combining his entire life together and giving room for him to be 33-37 when he died. Husk was 75-80 and died in 1970 as far as my research goes. 2024 - 1970 = 54, 80 + 54 = 134. So the amount of time they’ve been alive is actually rather similar. If you were concerned about Huskerdust, I would be more concerned about Vaggie and Charlie. Vaggie was in her mid 20s in 2014 when she died, meaning if she was 23-27, she’s now 33-37, whereas we have no idea how old Charlie is- over 200 at least.

[@davekisman2763]

Charlie is a hellborn, but she isn't evil. Lute is a heavenborn, but she's evil through the core. Heaven must be a lie. Not everything is perfect.

[@governmentghost01]

That's the entire shows premise

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

Well technically.. Charlie isn't a hellborn. Charlie is a Angel hybrid. Born from the first human or at least first woman and her father a literal seraph.

[@Axel_Kasai]

I don't imagine there'd be many children in hazbin since they could just as easily be stubby adults like niffty 😂

[@audreynwa]

Oh yea!

[@NotASillySkeleton]

POV : that one friend at the kindergarten

[@ConfusedArtist-1x]

TRUE

[@PinkHairPluto]

real

[@johnhayward998]

Perhaps the children in hell are probably trouble makers delinquent or juveniles that commit crimes or at worst

[@dietotaku]

anybody who thinks kids that young can't be evil enough to go to hell needs to read up on mary bell

[@johnhayward998]

@@dietotaku Yeah

[@HazbinCovenWitch]

There has literally been children that killed someone. There was a case where I think a 12 year old girl murdered a 5 year old boy.

[@agsdragon5475]

True but at the same time that heaven does not what gets someone into heaven so it’s not surprising people who were only bad for once they might still get stock down there

[@johnhayward998]

@@HazbinCovenWitch Yeah that's really messed up

[@NJ-tm1vn]

Ya know what I noticed? In the song Charlie "Wouldn't it be super to see more of Hell? Join up now if you like travel. Come on boys, hop in the saddle Lotta sights to see en route to my hotel" Its like cannibals aren't allowed to leave their town without permission maybe cause they are do dangerous?

[@madelineu7971]

I thought vivzie said sinners in the hazbin hotel wouldn’t be under 18? Could have also been a fake screenshot though. I would think the kids from the first episode of Halluva boss may end up in hell since they were cannibals and seemingly liked torturing animals. BUT since their parents raised them that way maybe not?

[@Rayne2221]

I remember that and I think that was just talking about main characters, it doesn't mean they're no characters in Hell under 18, they just won't be shown.

[@lillianblack8749]

Love that the people who are mad about the depiction of angel dusts situation are not people who have survived that kind of relationship or job and the ones who love that they are going dark and real with it are. Art is meant to comfort the hurt and force everyone else to see that this happens and make them uncomfortable.

[@ThatRandomEncounterGuy]

This is something that I’ve been thinking about for a long while. I’ve also been kinda concerned about how pedophiles/child killers would be utilized in Hell, but I didn’t want to ask about it publicly. It would make sense that even Hell wouldn’t accommodate the sickest depravity. Great video-thank you for this.

[@_Emrakull]

One thing i think is interesting, is how many children are in Cannibal Town. Maybe they welcome and lure in children upon arrival with how comforting it looks? And make them into cannibals since they must be starving

[@pigcatapult]

I think either cannibalism is one of the few sins that can get even a child sent there, or Rosie makes a point to round up new kids, and has the power to change her followers' forms to match her Hashtag Aesthetic.

[@daraghokane4236]

In abramic faiths there is a age of reason if you die before that point you don't go to hell as before that point your considered not mature enough to sin

[@fruity4820]

That's what I thought too, and from a practical writing perspective it's also much more convenient to just say "no kids allowed in hell" instead of trying to write around them. My head cannon is that kids under 13 y/o ish go to some sort of limbo that isn't heaven or hell

[@wilberwhateley7569]

The "age of reason" doctrine is a modern convention - the early church founders *firmly* believed that children would go straight to Hell (just read St. Augustine for more on who the redeemed would enjoy observing their torment from Heaven...).

[@egg_bun_]

​@@wilberwhateley7569 oof, I tried reading St. Augustine, and it was quite difficult to try and get through 😵‍💫

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

That's a modern variant. I remember the one where if the kid wasn't baptized. Down you go..

[@thekakeking9400]

Id bet Lucifer set the system up. Given how disgusted he was with Sinners generally.

[@williamsmith6324]

At least we know where the family from the first episode of Hella Boss ended up

[@GreenRevenant1515]

My personal theory about who gets in the heaven versus hell is that's not so much a person or group of people judging the person in question but basically an automated system sort of like an automated mail sorter. At some point The system was either sabotage or simply breaking down to age working at less and less efficiency over time. Even if it said say 70% efficiency The kid in the above video might have been in the unfortunate 30%. The fact that no one in heaven even Sarah have any idea how souls are selected for heaven and hell make me think this theory is becoming more likely.

[@SOLID.SOLIDM]

Always thought Vaggie letting a child live and getting “left for death” was odd

[@kyrudo]

I dunno. I think it would make more sense for Sinner's to be able to change their appearance slowly. Like if you ate human meat once, does that mean you'll manifest in hell EXACTLY looking like the people in Cannibal town? I think a better more elegant way to fix all this is just allow Sinners to slowly be able to warp their appearance based on the time spent on hell and their behavior/enviroment. So like even if you werent a full on cannibal, if you spend enough decades in Cannibal town you slowly start to look like them. Same logic with children. Spend enough time in hell and they'll grow up to reflect their mental age.

[@kyrudo]

Yeah, I dont mind there being a cost for it!

[@leerman22]

Vivzi's hell resembles a prison colony

[@Red_Sea_]

Plot twist, Imp cut just talks to a wall every day and the background characters have just come to ignore him over time

[@Vaggie2014]

Still wouldn't want to be a child in hell , however I do hope that the kids would have a safe carefree place for them to go and get a family of there own .

[@Rman94]

I kinda hope Vaggie and that kid she spared meet each other again, could work as a tender moment for season 2 or 3.

[@vontheunknown7982]

I wonder, will we get to see the Archangels In Helluva boss, who are dealing with Satan? One of them being Michael who maybe Lucifer's brother and Charlie's uncle? But what do you guys think of this theory?

[@samurexatlas7373]

I would also like to see Archangels like Michael and Sandalphon, because they might lead into the identity of the Vivziverae Samael to be revealed. Be that Luci or someone else.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

If the Archangels exist in Hazbin Hotel, they are probably hanging out around the G-Man, if he exists in Hazbin Hotel.

[@vontheunknown7982]

@@schwarzerritter5724 Until, they are needed in Helluva boss

[@samurexatlas7373]

@@schwarzerritter5724 No way Half Life in Hazbin

[@gerardomunoz6725]

I like to think Michael is heaven's nuclear option that's why he hasn't shown up yet. I don't know the lore, but apparently, in universe, hell had 9 circles, but now it's 7. My headcanon is Michael is the reason why.

[@snapparkerop]

Well that makes working on one of my sinner OC much easier He was a kid who died in the 90’s

[@Iszth1]

1:42 "Older people do tend to manifest looking and acting less useful in whatever form they take." D... do you mean... youthful?

[@komascorner]

7:08 what makes you say sinners can't give birth? charlie's mom was the first human woman. so...?

[@CountShaman]

I personally find it to be very sloppy worldbuilding that there's just a child conveniently in hell to give Vaggie a sympathetic reason to be condemned by the exorcists. It would make way more thematic sense if she instead spared a sinner who's protecting another sinner with their life, showing they're capable of redeemable selfless values and giving her more of a hook to want to support Charlie, instead of just "some sinners are just pure innocent children" which completely goes against the point of being a sinner.

[@PeachWookiee]

It was a kid from Cannibal Town…

[@CountShaman]

@@PeachWookiee And if he's just as guilty as the other cannibals, exorcising him is just as valid as the others.

[@Nightwing-hf2sx]

I think there’s tons of small details like these that they could’ve flushed out better but their writing was definitely constrained by time and only having 8 episodes for the whole season

[@tobsonasanya4765]

Eh not really

[@lmg-desi-yt]

That's also assuming the sinner was actually a child and not just small, but I see your point

[@DrawciaGleam02]

The demon form a sinner gets reminds me of a dark version of a cutie mark from MLP!!! 😆😆

[@agsdragon5475]

For those who think kids who end up in hell did something wrong, just remember heaven does not want to get someone into heaven, even minor or accidental sin can get into hell in viziepop world which is messed up

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

Hellofaboss also showed that Heaven does want certain members of humanity. The inventor that was still alive, the cherubs were trying to get him to redeem himself before he kicked the bucket so he would have a shot at heaven. They didn't really care about him but what he could do. A inventor that could improve heavens technological capabilities. So they do want someone to get into heaven. If your useful or just someone they like.

[@agsdragon5475]

@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Yeah, I read fanfic once where the characters called Cherub for helping people just because they are useful instead of good people who needed help which also shows how wrong heaven is if they really want less souls in hell and more souls heaven they should be helping people while hell is just sending more agents to get more people down there

[@sagrawolf]

It was mentioned in a livestream that children always go to heaven regardless of their behavior so the children of the murder family they went to heaven while their parents are in hell possibly plotting their revenge as they met imp before their deaths

[@tobsonasanya4765]

When was this mentioned

[@That_1_SUShi]

the fact that the sinners only go to the pride ring and not to their correct rings ANOYYES ME

[@vitordarosa-ke3oy]

Itl be easier to kill so i think thats why I think

[@Lazyspaceout]

I know this doesn't have to do with the video but this one thing really confused me the most in the show, why does adam and lute take vaggies halo, because Lucfier is angel and we see his when hes really pissed off, do they play a significant role? When adam died he Lute took his halo as well, was it just for proof or is there more goinh on then meets the eye?

[@NathanielHellerstein]

To show to the other extermination angels afterwards. "This is what happens to traitors!" Boo, Vaggie!

[@maemayhem08]

You see a lot of kids in the canibal colony and something tells me mis auntie vibes Rosie took them in. I mean the one kid who vaggie was punished for not killing was from the canibal colony.

[@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769]

The way Heaven is portrayed as being full of sociopathic and bloodthirsty tyrants is actually very accurate to the Bible, now that I think about it. Its just that for some reason, its not seen as evil when its there but it is when its in a show.

[@tobsonasanya4765]

Eh no it isn't. Also aside from the exterminators heaven seems decent

[@linus1703]

I definitely think children in hell is something that is important as it adds to how ruthless and cruel the extermination is. Although I have heard that a livestream said adults can sometimes manifest with child forms, I'm only bringing this up as it would be hilarious if the child that Vaggie spared turned out to be a 50 year old a hole that shows up at the hotel and she has a hard time not killing him. Personally I do not think children in hell would be addressed crimes against children as it becomes far too complicated. For one the show does not have a lot of time although that might be changed. But it also messes with the theme of redemption, Charlie is someone who thinks anyone can be redeemed and that inside of every demon is a rainbow. It throws the show and the overall message off if there is a disclaimer (some exclusions apply).

[@niceque7001]

Notice that loads of the children shown in this show are in cannibal town, meaning likely these kids are not deemed as especially evil, but as desperate for food

[@unknownstranger3646]

0:27: you sound like nifty😂

[@emrickazor2610]

I've been a fane for a couple years now, and I never even put it together that Hazbin takes place in Pride, and IMP is located in Pride. Explains my confusion on why IMP's clients can actually reach the building.

[@JrFFoo]

Love how the video covered both series

[@LunarSolarisMoon]

Every time I open the closet door, Impcut looks at me and makes a weirder weirDER WIEIRDER SMLIE.

[@ja-nozeveryman5865]

I was just going to write comment to your last video about that kid. If angels are killing only sinners, why was that canibal looking child target to them?

[@collinkeyser6827]

Remember What Adam Said "Extermination Is Entertainment" So It Was Probably For Fun.

[@DarkHairedCurlyOne]

I think the reason for kids goes back to the 9 lvls of hell and the first one. The one we see is where un baptized kids go.

[@mossyboii-.-]

1:21 I headcannon that the reason for Katie Killjoy has her is that she was a transphobe in life, just kinda want to share. :P

[@alterego9092]

I honestly believe most of the kids from cannibal town aren’t exactly evil or even knew they were eating human flesh, but they were sentenced to hell for their parents actions. By the looks of the cannibal town aesthetic and clothes, it’s safe to say majority of the population died during the Great Depression and they probably turned to cannibalism in order to stay alive. I’d imagine the parents didn’t even tell the kids that they ate human meat until after they all went to hell. (Though you can say the kids seemed crazy in episode 7, I probably would say they probably went insane after 80+ years of being dead)

[@samarma6633]

going to be honest the people in most definitely disserve it.

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

True but anything that makes heaven look bad seems to be encouraged

[@collinkeyser6827]

@samarna6633 Most People In Hell?

[@traviscollura2440]

I heard that the Exorcists ignore the Hellborn and go after the Sinners. But I’d think that there must’ve been a couple that were caught in the crossfire.

[@ErikOwens99]

Can you do what parts on a sinners that looks like what they look like because of their deaths or something they hated in life?

[@Mr_cosmic404]

I feel like Velvette would have similar powers to Sombra from overwatch. I’m simping for her and I find her voice amazing someone help me

[@christopherpenilla4344]

YA MEAN MLP?

[@Cangeltibon]

If cannibals are natives to hell they'd probably be the natives of the pride realm so killing them is extra awful because hellborn should be killed. I'm sure they had the option to flee to the other rings during the exorcism but for what ever reason (including not wanting to be forced to leave their homes) some stay and can be caught in the scuffle.

[@tabbytha-vt]

I think the spider looking overloard is the one who handles that kinda stuff. And i like to think overloard like rossie him carmliea and even the gaint lizard lady have a hand in making sure childern arent harmed

[@wiccanbrat]

Anyone else notice that wen we see heaven in Hazbin Hotel, there are no children?

[@dragon-w2d]

Tim got rid of them because there is no need for them in heaven🤣. I believe that heaven favors adults who are aware of their actions 🧐

[@DD8842]

I like the idea of pedos not lasting long in hell. Even the underworld has standards

[@Philtopy]

A video I would like to see you making would be what is about the evil people of our real world? Like Adolf H., J. Stalin, etc.? I have heard the question coming up from time to time. Ofc Vizzie doesnt put them into the show because of obivous moral and political reasons, but there is also a pretty big pile of reasons they wouldnt live and prosper in that hell for very long. Taking Adolf for example I see these points: - the most ovious ofc is: the purges. he likely was on spot no.1 for the exorcists. - his psychology: He thought he was in the right so ending up in hell would give him a mental breakdown. he had already been psychologically unstable, unempathical and cynical in the end wich would be the character he would have in hell too wich isnt really charismatic. This would have likely made him a wreck of a man. - all the people who died because of him must absolute *HATE* his guts. meaning all the civilians and all the Allied and Axis soldiers. and everybody likely prepared for the day they would get their hands on him. So the moment he would wake up there and make his identity known, hes gotta have a hatemob of millions upon him - hell already had an established society and overlords at that point of time, so he likely was on their hitlist too. Wich overlord wouldnt wanna have a big badge of "I offed the biggest murderer in human history" on their resume? And they sure as hell (hehe) have access to angelic weapons. - Who gets to hell in the first place? EVERYBODY WHO SINS? Or just those deemed "redeemable"? If so, then the Hazbin Hell never actually sees the REALLY evil people. Each one of these points is enough to off Hitler from the calculation on its own. in combination they make it pretty much *IMPOSSIBLE* for such a man to make it in that hell. And you could apply most of these to basically ANY real world famous sinner, warlord, politician or dictator. Wich is a good explanation you can use to shut off such questions right from the start if some smartass comes with the idea that there is a "nazi"-portion of hell, or that Hazbin/Helluva is stupid because Mao isnt there. Making a video about it would give you a lot of traction, I think.

[@PaxTheCat]

I wonder if they would show how does it look to attempt to leave the Ring. Is there a wall or "push"?

[@CariCovers]

Easy answer, 🎶they die for free🎶

[@lime1786]

how come sir pentious didn't change much after he remanifested? like you said towards the beginning they manifest into hell with body properties they hate about themselves, but not much has changed about sir pentious

[@xxmension04xx47]

the child Vaggie spared...I believe its a Hellborn due to their appearance, but there is the whole deal to not harm Hellborns but we have no idea when that deal was actually made in the first place

[@AL3XE]

No but why is deep cut getting funnier every day 😭😭

[@IanPendleton-gh6ox]

1:48; last I heard, Husk was supposed to have been in in 70s when he died. Have there been any changes to that fact, or was it simply never canon in the first place?

[@Jay-gurl]

It's funny the confusion the sinner kid caused because it's stated Sinners can't reproduce themselves in hell. It's their punishment and only hellborns can breed. But the kid caused ALOT of people to think sinners were breeding and making them enraged on how fair that was for kids to be born in hell with no chance before being exterminated. Now, now, I do know a lot of fans are new to the series so they can't know all the tweets, Q&A's and general lore Vivz made for Hazbin before the series was picked up. No beef on anyone who just generally didn't know. I'm just saying I find it kinda funny how one scene caused so much confusion and rage without the context.

[@roberthunter6122]

Idk if this has been answered, but what happens if a demon under a soul contract redeems and gets sent to heaven, or is that possible?

[@shadowhound5113]

I don’t get why people defend kids. Kids can sin too, when kids are tried for murder, is anyone really surprised that there are kids in hell.

[@impy2d843]

Kids can also commit sins, Sinners don't age and can't reproduce. I know a few kids on the news who have killed other kids.

[@tron-a-con3700]

Painting Hell as more empathetic and merciful than Heaven while hard to Believe isn't dar fetched.

[@tobsonasanya4765]

But it ain't

[@blazingcinders9089]

What if there's a child overlord that watches over an urchin children gang and adopts children who just manifested in Hell?

[@JasTheSass]

I love that idea! I think It’d be even funnier though if the overlord was actually just a really irresponsible babysitter! Not like, ignore the children irresponsible, but like, playing with firecrackers indoors irresponsible. They just run around with their child gang stealing wallets to buy fireworks and shoplifting bubblegum.