Considering upgrading to a Ford MachE? CAR WIZARD shows how the electric car still needs a mechanic

[@grant9047]

I love how humble this guy is, makes it really easy to listen to him

[@RedXcz]

It is refreshing to see someone being so chill about it. Not forcing the change, but embracing it. There will surely be enough things to repair and maintain though. Suspension and driveshafts, CV joints and their boots, leaking transmission and differential seals, cooling systems, AC and heat pumps and more. An industry of battery maintenance and repair services needs to be created. You CAN repair a battery, you do not need to buy the whole thing new.

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

Linus tech tips say it is dangerous to repair lithium ion batteries because it can arc and burn itself away.

[@TheRealTomLauda]

As a software engineer myself, i can tell you one thing: i really, REALLY don't want software being the main issue on cars. I can tell you already, this will be a disaster. (think software updates, licencing vs ownership, add tracking, privacy issues, security issues...). You don't want that with your car. No one does.

[@burntnougat5341]

I feel you. Since electric motors are all powered by software or ICs of some sort, I won't buy into EV until I, as the end user, can manually change the software. It's the reason why I will build and fly my drones from OSS components vs getting DJI.

[@MelodyOo]

Since everything is turning into Saas type of business I guarantee you the future is going to be a dystopian planned obsolence hell. Tesla and Apple are the Main culprit for this.

[@NebraskaSXHC]

@@burntnougat5341 sounds like you’ll be walking at some point

[@leonardodavinci303]

I totally agree as a former software guru. I guarantee you hacking WILL be an issue. Think ransom ware.

[@jorrdanna6219]

Thwy're already doing that with gas cars.

[@matthewseymour8972]

Wizard doesn't need to worry. By the time these cars are out of warranty, there'll be independent auto electronics repair and battery specialists to work alongside the mechanics shops. Just as you send a gearbox or turbo off to a specialist, you'll be able to get recon inverters and control modules. The skill and talent that makes Wizard's business what it is comes from diagnostic ability and there will ALWAYS be a place for that.

[@elliotkane4443]

These cars won't last that long, the battery has 6-10yrs of life then the car will be junked.

[@matthewseymour8972]

@@elliotkane4443 lol. My 12 year old EV would be an example against that.

[@cnorton1us]

If "right to repair" becomes a thing, independent mechanics will still have plenty to do on EVs, and the smart ones will learn all they can about the power systems and motors to keep relevant. The car companies, of course, only want their dealerships to be able to service them. I think there will be an extended transition period where most new cars and trucks are EVs, but plenty of people will hold on to their ICE vehicles as long as they can still buy gas at a reasonable cost and keep the vehicles serviced. I just bought a new car this past August, so I'm set for a while; in fact I got something of a "throw-back" with a manual transmission, no hybrid hardware, and no "driver aids" that actually make people less attentive to what's going on around them.

[@nodak81]

Not really. The parts are so insanely expensive that no one will pay to repair them. The only exception being warranty repairs which is dealer territory. No one is dumping $30k on a replacement battery for these things.

[@daevid21]

You can’t buy a car anymore without driver aids it’s impossible to completely disable TC or stability control

[@Tipman2OOO]

Thank you! I get amazed at the ads trying to get people to think the safety system is their magic key to no accidents. No, you just have to be present, simple as that!

[@Tipman2OOO]

@@daevid21 yeah off the dealer lot, go look at the used market, you'd be surprised.

[@markbeiser]

If you take the cowling around the tub in the frunk off, you will find that Ford has left plenty of job security in there for mechanics. 4 coolant pumps, 30+ feet of coolant pipes, with dozens of connections, HVAC system, etc..

[@wyrazowfkp]

Sandy Munro watcher here I see :D Also vacuum pump for brakes which most ice cars don't need But no water pump ? Naaaaah 4 water pumps :P to cool the battery ... louver that will fail and overheat the battery :P A lot of things to go wrong

[@B0xlife1]

Would of loved to see this!

[@B0xlife1]

@@wyrazowfkp I’m pretty sure if any issue arose from those pumps you would be notified via the dash, I was gonna say Check Engine Light lol but what is it now? Check electric motor light? Check cooling system light? Hell if I know LOL anyways I think the dash shoes you battery temp at all times (Tesla’s do) so you would know if all of a sudden if your battery temp keeps rising or is higher than normal during your A to B commutes. Btw I know Ford had a few Tesla’s in there testing fleet, seen some pics of them driving them so I’m sure they copied wherever they could on what they wanted.

[@wyrazowfkp]

@@B0xlife1 Yes- same for coolant temperature in a ICE car -- you could have warnings. But it can still overheat :) @tie pup Yes. Some cars have electric vacuum pumps -- that was a total failure and most models after the 90s came back to old vacuum cylinder power brakes f.e Jaguar, Ford etc.

[@GeraldMMonroe]

Not to mention all the autopilot driving sensors and hardware. Easily this adds back more complexity than removing the engine subtracted.

[@bikecommuter24]

I got in the habit of checking my oil when I fill up with gas and once a month check the car over, all the fluids, filters, wipers, tires and a look under the car but I'm a retired Aircraft Mechanic so pre flight and post flight inspections are still in my system.😆

[@vw5056]

I know like clockwork how much oil my cars burn and don't even need to dipstick it and can add 1/2 liter every two weeks and be right at the top mark.

[@drunkenhobo5039]

@@vw5056 A half-litre every two weeks. You running a two-stroke!?

[@malice6081]

Some cars do indeed burn oil. Like the piston rings are dying.

[@TheLargestDylan]

As both a private pilot and a professional truck driver, I second this! Doing a pre and post-trip is a difficult habit to break, even when you don't "have" to do them.

[@orange2352]

Overkill lol but habits are habits

[@Miata822]

Car Wizard, I remember when EFI and ECUs first started showing up in normal cars. People moaned: "That's it. No more repairs or modifications. You can't work on these cars." We all know how wrong those words were. Yes, it took new tools & new skills but electronics opened a whole new world of hotrodding, tuning, and repair (see Hoovie's Lambo repair). Sure, we call hot rod grease monkeys "tuners" today and they carry a laptop rather than a collection of jet drills, but the desire to fix & modify will live on.

[@niffirg1113]

OBD1 still sucks to this day

[@diablocls55]

ECUs make it easier to diagnose problems.

[@zachyurkus]

@@niffirg1113 unless you live in a county that is OBD1 exempt from emissions 😏

[@Tipman2OOO]

Yes but the cars actually are getting less and less accessable!

[@Mixz1890]

@@niffirg1113 what exactly sucks about it?

[@himynameisbrianw]

Nope pure lazy, ignorance and stupidity on the owner 100% poor Odyssey van.

[@MrChickenspit]

im pretty sure Car Wizard wanted to say that on camera but can't lol

[@burntnougat5341]

@@MrChickenspit lol yeah wizard was being really really diplomatic about the Odyssey owner.

[@mccullough976]

Yes, Brian UU,I totally agree!

[@Yoav76]

No worries! Hoovie's repairs will keep the Wizard in business for the rest of his life 😂

[@flyingbadger1759]

Big issue with EVs is having the lithium mines, production needs to go way up in a short time to meet the goals for EVs. Also. The fact that currently the cobalt thats needed is mined by kids in Africa at gun point. Theres definitely forces that want to drive up fossil fuel prices to force "green" technology before its naturally economically feasible. What scares me is the potential control manufacturers and governments can have over EVs with the computers, retricting our freedom to travel. Recently people were trying to get Elon Musk to shut off all Teslas in Russia.

[@OlegAryutkin]

In my petrol car, 99% of problems are not engine-related. (It’s a Volvo).so… I’m sure there’s fair amount of repairs to be done. There are still motors and drivetrains, and moving parts to break and lubricate.

[@datsoon9236]

Exactly. Same with my Volvo 240

[@k0zzu21]

Yes the most common problem is the battery or worn out chassis parts.

[@OlegAryutkin]

@@k0zzu21 how does chassis wear out?

[@k0zzu21]

@@OlegAryutkin are you serious? How do the tires, brakes, struts, joints, bearings, arms, bearings and mounts wear?

[@jaskajokunen3716]

@@k0zzu21 Just remove all of those things so you don't need to worry about wear and tear.

[@humanbraininrobotbod]

I think there will still be plenty for the Wizard's shop to do for the next 20 years. Electric cars will need some maintenance and repair and people will still drive classic cars that are already a part of Omega's work.

[@davefroman4700]

Only rich people will be able to afford a gas car. EV's will be cheaper as the industry scales. And ride hailing is already killing the ownership model in major centers.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Oh yeah plenty of places in the US you can still ride a horse into town... And the bans are mostly because Horses are messy and untrained they don't like cars.. Gas, Hydrogen, Battery cars can and should live in harmaony much like the old 1960s cars traveling down I-95 everyday with the modern 21 century versions. Will most be BEVs? Yes but does it matter to whipe out all competitors? No that's bad as batteries are hard to surce and are consumable so they are not a mircle tech everyone thinks they are... And their are ways to capoture then transfer C02 to places like mars who needs it... or just planet more trees they love the stuff... Point is Gas cars are fine people are just not thinking clearly.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough the EV craziness is caused by politics. Nothing more.

[@russellhltn1396]

Not as much as you might think. The price of replacement batteries will have to come way down before 10 year old electrics showing up at the garage that won't be economically totaled out.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@russellhltn1396 I don't think there will be any ten year old electrics. All the electronics and software will be obsolete, not worth repairing....not even considering the batteries.

[@villepaavolainen1375]

I reckon independent shops will specialize on battery swaps and overhauling. It won't take that long before the closed systems are flooded with aftermarket hacks and so forth.

[@AT-xr8qh]

Really wonder what’s gonna happen to all those batteries. How effectively can they be recycled?

[@nitrocity-tt5tg]

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[@waterloo123100]

Shops might be able to but not everyday people trying to fix their cars

[@MAGGOT_VOMIT]

Wow, another EV? SMH, Billions of tons more coal being burned, Thousands of tons more nuclear waste created and excessive amounts of Heat being released into the atmosphere, just to keep these inefficient, NON-Green EV's charged. NICE!! 😆😂🤣

[@MAGGOT_VOMIT]

Plus, high-voltage/high-current electrical systems in industrial equipment and EV's are so detrimental (even at the molecular level) to all their metallic components. Not to mention the fact that 1 gallon of gasoline produces a power/efficiency factor of 4500. The best Lithium Ion power packs can barely scratch a power/efficiency factor of 900. Not only that, but early last year, word leaked out in Australia that the Chinese mining companies that mine the Lithium have already depleted several of the largest Lithium deposits in their largest mines leased to them. Use your brains!! Do you think that the miniscule amount of Lithium deposits on Earth could ever satisfy the so-called "predicted" demand of replacing gasoline power vehicles? It's impossible!! They had better find something else and FAST!! In just a few years, these EV's will be sitting behind "Earl's Garage", grazing in the tall grass or down in Cuba, roaming the streets with tractor engines in them. 😆😂🤣

[@parkerstephens1355]

My biggest concerns with electric vehicles is it takes longer to charge one instead of getting gas, and also there are not many charge stations like there are gas stations so travelling would be a lot harder with electric vehicles

[@Firestorm637]

My Model X with 50,000 never been to a service center. Just tires as maintenance. No petrochemical odors

[@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus]

When everyone in California turns their A/C on, the whole power grid shuts off. Power company engineers have said that on the average street in the average neighborhood, 3-4 houses can have fast chargers but if more do, the local grids will be overloaded and shut down. The main problem with electric cars is not the cars themselves, it's the power infrastructure to keep them running, and after those upgrades are made, the cost of power - which will be far higher than it is now. We have a long way to go before electric becomes viable on that scale.

[@kalashnikov1343]

Texas cannot even run electric heaters in the winter. The more the government forces the electric cars the more suffering will happen. I am a huge skeptic but government poking it's nose in is a huge NO.

[@kalashnikov1343]

Yes that's the irony. Rolling blackouts, how will I charge my car? I guess we cannot travel now either. More government control. Sounds like a great idea!

[@jmonsted]

Nobody needs fast chargers at home. People will have a slow charger and i'm expecting they'll mostly have off-peak-tariff timers if you want to save a few more bucks.

[@jmonsted]

@@kalashnikov1343 Rolling blackout, how will you run your furnace? I can power my critical stuff off the vehicle-to-load power from my car for a loooooong time.

[@dgurevich1]

California is a deadbeat state. And you don't want fast chargers everywhere. The right move is to have a 250 volt 32 amp charger which every home can supply, and having demand based tariff, so the cars charge when the load is low. In some future prospect, the same cars can give electricity to balance the load on peak times, but yeah, that's a long way away.

[@fordman7775]

I live on an unpaved road in a remote area. This means that issues with range and off-road ability make a horse a better daily driver for me than a BEV. I have no problem with people getting electric cars, it’s when the government starts trying to force them on people that there will be serious issues.

[@Digital-Dan]

Ford lightning 150, a few solar panels on the roof and Robert is the paternal sibling of your paternal parent.

[@fordman7775]

@@Digital-Dan I hope your suggestion works, because I’m out of luck if it doesn’t.

[@northdakotaham1752]

The government will be changing in a few months from now. Hopefully some level of permanent sanity will prevail unlike the daily circus we endure today.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

@@northdakotaham1752 Yes, the Democrap party is imploding. People are now realizing Trump was right. Stagflation, crime, empty shelves, no jobs, Americans left behind enemy lines, failed schools, no cars, and no gas. It’s the 70s all over again.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@user-tb7rn1il3q it's worse than the 70s.

[@hurk130]

Mrs. Wizard is so funny! I love this team. Mr. Wizard, you got a great show here!

[@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261]

A great many people think checking the oil or tire pressures is somebody else's job -- the next time they take it to Jiffy Lube or to a mechanic for something. It's not hard. There is nothing hard about checking your oil, or mastering "funnel and quart container" technology. Don't tell me they're busy. We all know how much TV they watch.

[@smallfact0ry]

My 2022 4runner should be arriving in a few weeks. I wanted to grab one of the last quality “new-old” cars before it went turbo-hybrid. I’m fully aware a small electric runabout will be in my future, but the 4runner will live in my garage until I age out of driving…

[@billfrete8487]

It has those darn fob's eh? I was looking to do the same, but alas... I think Toyota batteries cant even be left unhooked anymore overnight or you unprogram your ECM.

[@benchattin]

That 4Runner will still be running in 2080 Mad Max style after society has collapsed.

[@krassimirpetrov7131]

This is a fact ! NA v6 and body on frame , old school auto . It’ll run forever

[@ozarkliving7263]

2021 Sequoia Platinum 4WD here…. Same thought with me…. Pulls my Airstream perfectly

[@Kiarabelle1]

Well said.Same here.Even if it's just an SR5 model,I will purchase a new 4Runner before it goes hybrid-turbo.It's a beast and will outlast anything on road today.

[@legomaniac601]

The Mach E is a good car, I just don’t think they deserve the mustang name mostly due to the fact its a SUV im looking forward to an Ev Mustang

[@TotlKaos]

Have to agree.. nothing mustang about it.

[@kylehyman4368]

Gonna have to wait for an all ev mustang. But ford announced the new mustangs coming out will have a hybrid/gas powertrain with v8. So still v8 but with added torque and gas mileage

[@scottiencali]

I said the exact same thing on another video review person reviewing a mach-e and got absolutely roasted in the comments. So im glad to see im not the only one and people here are much more level headed.

[@polarlicht4758]

Do we have to discuss this everywhere! It's called like that, deal with it!

[@kerrylewis2581]

It should have been named Maverick. It actually looks like one if you were around in the seventies.

[@Mr19853]

Cash for clunkers was a huge disaster!

[@obsoleteprofessor2034]

I saw a mint 66 Studebaker go into the trash because of CashCars. The scrap yard said there was no way he could chance saving it.

[@Mr19853]

@@obsoleteprofessor2034 I've seen many old cars crashed in, it was sad time in life.

[@Mr19853]

@Scotty Killess Explain how it was please?

[@Mike__P]

I'd love to see him and Scotty Kilmer in a room talking about electric cars. I'd rather check the oil on 10,000 cars than deal with the electrical headaches these cars can cause.

[@PeteLenz]

Such as?

[@georgeperkins4171]

Scotty is a sell out and he is biased. Not the car wizard.

[@georgeperkins4171]

@@PeteLenz good question. I was thinking maybe not being able to get in. Or some kind of glitch. The only thing that cocerns me is range. You'd still need a gas car for trips but most the time we stay close to home.

[@joemaxwell7185]

@@georgeperkins4171 nah he's just click bait. I got tired of that crap

[@pawsnpistons]

@@PeteLenz With all that software crap companies can lock you out the car, see where youve been and recently a hacker even hacked 25 teslas and opened doors as well as started them from his pc.

[@BeingMe23]

From 1832 to 1920s the EV and Steam was the main power for cars. In the 90s to about 2005 CA required 10% of new cars sold must be a EV. Fun fact that 23 yr old Ferdinand Porsche made his first car in 1898 and it was a EV.

[@LibertyOrD___h]

And? Ancient Egypt crated batteries as well, look what happens to them.

[@BeingMe23]

@@LibertyOrD___h Sigh those with a shame based childhood often shame others. My EV comment was in relationship to the modern EV today.

[@invagina1110]

takes fossil fuel to make steam

[@kalashnikov1343]

F the government

[@BeingMe23]

@@kalashnikov1343 That shame based childhood isn't working for you. Oh yea no one said you have to live in the US.

[@FunnyMuffler]

Meh, until the battery packs are affordable to replace (and user replaceable), these are too easily totaled or left to rot because of battery pack costs. Their power with instant torque is amazing, but I'll be a petrolhead for life.

[@freedomisnotnegotiable]

Electric cars will be so cheap in maintenance… lol So we didn’t had any electrical issues with cars in the last decades correct? Most of the time mechanical problems can be diagnosed… every car mechanic knows how it will work with electric issues… “alright we will start throwing parts at the car until it is fixed.” - which is ok when you are under guarantee after that good luck!

[@thebullrunyachtclub3544]

battery packs can be repaired, you dont have to total a car because of a couple of cells

[@redbaron6805]

Not sure I follow that logic. Battery packs are already being upgraded and replaced. No electric cars are "easily totaled" because of the battery packs.

[@redbaron6805]

@@freedomisnotnegotiable No, haven't had any electrical issues with cars in the last decade. Literally none. What "electric issues" are you talking about? You are making literally no sense at all. I have owned an electric car for 8 years already. No electrical issues at all. Most issues with cars are mechanical. Most electronics are retired because they are obsolete, not because they ever failed. I literally have a 30 year old computer on my desk, still works fine. In fact, I don't recall any electronics I owned ever failing except those literally struck by lightning or due to a power surge.

[@freedomisnotnegotiable]

@@redbaron6805 How much does it cost to replace the TESLA battery?

[@nicholasb2131]

Only when the battery pack fails and totals the car in 100k miles. The battery packs from Ford are $25,000. This is the problem with our throw away society today.

[@wronggg]

There will be generous warranty guarantees on batteries to keep this problem at bay. Tesla has 150k miles for example. (and this will probably increase as battery tech gets better).

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Its under warranty.

[@1SaG]

Take out the old batteries and put in new ones. I'm pretty sure you can rebuild batteries even today. And once EVs really take off, rebuilding battery-packs will probably become essential. Those things (and the raw materials used in them) don't grow on trees.

[@markbeiser]

Battery pack, and other electrical system repairs on EVs, will be a growing market. There are already several independent shops around the country that repair Tesla, and others, battery packs.

[@QALibrary]

lol - if you buy an EV today the motor and battery pack will outlast the rest of the car - your thinking about 5 years out of date

[@bryanmcdaniels9369]

I own one of these, just like it. Same color and all. Drove it from central Illinois down to st Augustine Florida, absolutely no hiccups, munches miles and only cost 75 dollars each way. 2000+ miles for 150 dollars. Yes it took more time, but I'm willing to waste 3 hours charging each way rather than spend over 1000 dollars in fuel. People are in too big of a hurry. Because we had to stop to charge, we got more time to stretch, discover things, meet people. As soon as my f150 is paid off I'm getting an electric truck. Once you make the switch you honestly don't want to go back.

[@bradley624]

2000 miles divided by 30mpg = 66.6 gallons used. 66.6 gallons x $3.00 a gallon = $199 dollars in gas for that trip.

[@juststeve5542]

The blinking purple lights are near infrared, some cameras detect them even though they are out of the visual range of our eyes. They're probably there to detect the driver's presence, and no doubt detect that you're not nodding off behind the wheel.

[@craigcampbell1843]

I believe they’re for self driving mode so the vehicle can tell that your eyes are still on the road. Like Tesla making you keep your hands on the steering wheel.

[@hoozthair6076]

@@craigcampbell1843 Blue cruise

[@nwelsh84]

They're always watching!

[@forresttm]

Nicethanks for that. Wondered what they were.

[@juststeve5542]

@@forresttm open the camera on your phone and point the output end of a TV remote at the camera sensor as you press a button (Volume up/down is good as they continue to send when depressed). If your phone doesn't have an IR filter, you'll see the same effect, and now you have an easy way of checking the batteries in your TV remote if you ever have problems. ;-)

[@juzoli]

I wonder if those “right to repair” laws will ever open up the closed software black boxes. I don’t say totally open, but give full access to all diagnostics, and some tweaks/fixes which CAN be done without writing new code.

[@buckhorncortez]

Do you have the "right to repair" the software on your computer? No, unless it's open-source software. Any program you buy is owned by the company that wrote and sells the software and you simply have a license to use it. You can't get the source code from them so there's no way you can modify the software. Why would you think auto companies should give the "right to repair" the software which they've invested in as part of their product?

[@juzoli]

@@buckhorncortez I clearly answered your concerned in my first comment. We don’t want to change the code, just use its built in diagnostic capabilities.

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

OBO 3 may come out next year only for electric cars

[@vw5056]

Why tarnish the Mustang's legendary nameplate with this abomination?

[@proud_emmerian6510]

So it can sell. Without it, this _thing_ would never have sold. Ford is spitting on the name of an icon by naming the Mach E a Mustang. Just ain't right.

[@buggyridge]

Good to see you be so open minded Car Wizard! Plenty of folks opposed to electric vehicles. I love them and hate them just like infernal combustion. I'm waiting for my Jetson's car. I've only seen one other vehicle running with no oil registering. It was a diesel Mercedes in 1976. Came into our gas station running a little rough. Smoothed right out with 4 quarts of oil.

[@slobaltcobalt]

as a college student going to be a mechanic, this video killed my mood and day.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Learn High Voltage electric for cars and you have enough work for the next 100 years.

[@jeffreyrwilliams9345]

they will still need service technicians for these. Also traditional mechanics will still last decades. specialty, restorations, machining

[@tinystar3010]

Dont worry, ev's still need mechanics.

[@TheRealTomLauda]

I'd say, go for it.There will always be a need for a good mechanic in the world, even if electric cars takes over ICE (which is not done yet, and maybe never will be).

[@metaleuman]

hundreds of millions cars aren't going to disappear. You'll have enough work for your lifetime. Maybe even more work and money than ever, because ICE cars will get older and older and will need more and more repairs.

[@LuizMGRamos]

I guess that, as a mechanic, a electric car still a machine, and that's where your expertise is focused. It's the phisical nature of the car. The features that are shared with a combustion engine car still makes it something that only a professional can deal with. Correct me if i'm wrong.

[@donswier]

Bravo for candid opinions. I'm a petrolhead who loves my i3 REx. -Zero issues at 57k miles. - $10 electricity goes 400 miles - Brakes not wearing - Can still run on 2cyl onboard gas generator if on a trip over 150 miles. I just don't think it's taxpayer's job to put in public chargers or to give tax incentives on EVs. Let free market decide.

[@Firestorm637]

I own solar panels. I save $400/month on gas and electricity for home. Gas cars are high maintenance when you find out how low maintenance an EV is. No more oil filters in land fills.

[@tedsmith1641]

The biggest issue with EV’s (big fan of them myself) is that they just don’t work for people who are not upper middle class or extremely wealthy. Perhaps they will be, but besides infrastructure and charging times most don’t have the exorbitant amount of money needed to keep one long term. Again, this could change but 15-25k for battery? Yikes. I’ve had 5 cars and haven’t spent that much… including maintenance! The reliable and cheap used market is essential for those of us who can’t afford to spend more than 5-8k on a car and can’t afford much per year beyond basic maintenance and some occasional repairs. If EV’s can last like Toyota’s …I’ll buy one. I really would love to daily an EV, but not only can I not afford the cost or the maintenance, but I’m not a homeowner so I don’t have a way to safety charge it. To say we should legislate people out of things they can afford into things they cannot is kinda gross… not that wizard is saying that per say… but EV’s likely need more than 10-15 years of improvement to fulfill the requirements of the not super wealthy.

[@ryanhorsley9965]

People who think that EVs are only for the well off aren't thinking about EVs beyond Tesla. Chevy Bolt, Mazda MX-30 EV, and Hyundai Kona are competitive with the typical gas-sipping econobox price-wise. Plus they are eligible for rebates while gasoline cars are likely to see additional taxes going forward.

[@northdakotaham1752]

I think the Wizard is full of bs on this one. Gas/diesel vehicles will be a majority of vehicles on the road in the U.S. for at least another 50 years and probably longer once alternative fuels for ICE vehicles become more readily available.

[@TheKRUNKONE]

I paid 18k for mine. $30 a month for 1000 miles back and forth to work.

[@americansmark]

@@ryanhorsley9965 that's cool, but the nearest charging station to me is 50 miles away, and I live along i70.

[@Kewrock]

It's called authoritarianism.

[@AnalogueKid2112]

Thanks for the tour, Wizard. I own a Ford Focus Electric which is now 9 years old and still going strong. Despite concerns about EV batteries needing replacement after a few years, mine is doing fine although it’s lost a couple miles of range. Highly recommend it

[@missaneido7417]

Car Wizard's optimism is admirable. Next time you get a chance, remove the front plastic tub, look at the monstrosity of convoluted cooling hoses underneath it and rejoice in the new service opportunities.

[@KarmaTiger]

They aren't under anything like the pressure of coolant hoses in an ICE car

[@dabandel]

@@KarmaTiger Or heat. Those hoses will last a long time simply from not being baked by the heat from an ICE.

[@joemaxwell7185]

@@dabandel in my experience cold Winters kill more plastic than anything.

[@DanielBlaney]

@@joemaxwell7185 the cold winter kill the plastic because once the engine starts they heat up quickly. It's called heat cycling.

[@joemaxwell7185]

@@DanielBlaney you ever try to work on a car in the winter? You'll break every plastic piece on the way if you don't have a heated garage. Even if it's new, I understand entropy but I've just noticed anything under 20 degrees is a nightmare. I'm sure the extremes in temperature do cause their own list of issues as well. Let's all just live somewhere nice 😂

[@Igoriann]

Mach E is amazing. I got premium awd. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned hands down. I remember being so worried and anxious that if it doesn’t work out I’d be screwed. I have zero regrets. Way more convenient than I could ever imagine. Also, you will come to a stop and depending on what mode you’re in, the regen braking will be more intense. But in all 3 modes it will fully stop the car. No need for brake pedal at all unless needing to suddenly stop

[@jamesgaines6468]

In Virginia you have to pay an extra $109 a year for tags for an EV. Since we don’t buy gas and the taxes from gas as used to upkeep highways, they tax us on tags as “fair use” fees.

[@vw5056]

Makes sense. Should be more though. I am sure the average ICE driver pays more than $109/yr in tax via fuel.

[@jamesgaines6468]

@@vw5056 They probably do. Most likely keeping the fees somewhat reasonable to not deter people too much from transitioning to electric cars.

[@richardbaumgart2454]

Virginia sucks ass just like the highway patrol there

[@rabbicovidstein4421]

yes gentile, also get your vaccine, and switch to soy based meats

[@derakbell8143]

I'm in Va and I know its bullshit

[@aknsd2009]

Very impressive video. Good for you. You are 100% correct and I am glad that you as a mechanic with a business can see the future.

[@Xandil]

Great video and perfect timing. I plan to buy one of these within the next few months and the detailed review really helps cement my decision. The main problem is finding one on the lot that isn't marked up $5,000 over MSRP. The sun roof is designed to reflect UV rays so it does not make the interior hot in the summer or require a sun shade. A couple other guys have reviewed the Mach-e and commented on this. The blinking infrared lights are for the auto pilot system which checks to ensure the driver keeps his eyes on the road instead of playing with the center screen.

[@JoshEDBL]

the light the camera picks up is infrared, i believe. it's not on the visible spectrum, but the camera can pick it up and puts it on the visible spectrum so we can see it

[@Peter-rq4xn]

Much respect to you Wizard! Appreciated your honest review about EV’s and the future.

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

Good luck going more than 100 miles on a charge on a 10 or even 20 degree Midwestern or Northeastern winter day. Battery life drops off precipitously as the weather gets colder.

[@georgemaniates]

@@Christoph-sd3zi Do you own one? Then why spread such misinformation. Even in 10 degree Michigan weather, I average about 3 miles a KW. With the battery of the average Tesla, Bolt, or Hyundai EV, you get more than what you state. Keep messing with your ICE. I switched to an EV with no regrets.

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

@@georgemaniates stop lying about your range in order to justify your poor decision of purchasing an EV

[@fortheloveofnoise]

I will never give up gas and the manual transmission, even if I have to live in the car to afford it I will.

[@yaboimax6356]

Reminds me of the saying "I will not comply"

[@redbaron6805]

Yawn... I'm sure a bunch of people were never going to give up their trusty horse either. Grass and water is everywhere. Who wants to buy gas?

[@yaboimax6356]

@@redbaron6805 Lmao, you're funny. 🤣

[@RayanMADAO]

Lol

[@VoidOneGamer]

@@redbaron6805 Hell, many Amish folks still buy gas-not for cars, but for generators.

[@srdaniel2]

Being a software engineer, I think the cost of repairs to the end consumer are going to be more overall when compared with petrol vehicles. Unless the right to repair is allowed/enforced, even then the cost to purchase the necessary software/tools is probably going to be crazy. I agree that electric vehicles are most likely the future but I haven't heard much of the government building an infrastructure to support it, wouldn't that be up to the private sector?

[@thedopplereffect00]

The government is there to force remote kill switch software that can't be removed. No rights for you.

[@RothBeyondTheGrave]

Remove the word "think". They will be astronomical, & they will ensure 70% of current vehicle owners will be taking the bus or walking for the rest of their lives. Not a good outcome for rural areas with brutal winters among tons of other circumstances in which this simply doesn't work. And yes, another opportunity for those in the private sector to become more rich, & gain more control over something they should never have control over....how a person decides to transport themselves & their goods.

[@wheretheredferngrows14]

@@RothBeyondTheGrave the only entity forcing transportation on you is the government. You can buy whatever you want as long as it’s legal. No gun to your head but keep bitching I guess.

[@typxxilps]

no, not really, check what happens in Europe: all tesla get slaughtered and even dead units and parts go to a refurbishing center that repairs such boards. Do you know what an engine overhaul needs and costs ? And in Europa the manufacturer have to provide all the tools needed to independents and if the put high sticker prices on that they face high fines for avoiding competition. And I guess that then US shops will purchase the bits and pieces from Europe if the US car makers will not allow that competition for repairs to happen. We have 3 different EV and each is an awfull lot cheaper in maintenance, no oil in the engine, transmission. The brake replacement are 4 times less. That's it. And all the other electronics are pretty much the same as for ICE like suspension.

[@villepaavolainen1375]

I disagree. Lets look at the ODB2 standard. Nowadays anyone can buy software for 50-100$ and a decent reader for 50$.

[@TarquinJoseph]

Someone drove that Honda around with low oil and the engine didn't die?? Sounds like a Honda can be a very reliable vehicle.

[@DrillerAA]

I just don't consider this a Mustang. It is a hatchback crossover with Mustang badging for marketing purposes. That doesn't make it a bad car but it doesn't make it a Mustang either. As you mentioned, the greatest concern is battery issues that could cost tens of thousands of dollars. I'll give it a few more years or wait for the EV pick up trucks to arrive in numbers and reliability. Great video as always.

[@dabandel]

Driller, I went to the Ford dealership to buy a new '21 GT500 (0-60 in 3.7 seconds). On a whim I test drove the Mach-e GT Performance Edition (0-60 in 3.5 seconds). That and a lot more usability, features and ride is excellent. Guess which one is now in my garage? Believe me, owners will tell you the Mach-e is a Mustang in spirit, it just has four doors.

[@pawsnpistons]

@@dabandel Only if youre driving in a straight line. The GT500 is a sports car, the Mach-E isnt.

[@talesin13]

@@dabandel is it an awesome vehicle. Damn straight it is. Is it a mustang, it is not. Mustang was used for marketing, otherwise it would just be an also ran.

[@B0xlife1]

As for this video, I would like the owners view on this rather he wants to be on camera or wizard question him on it. What are the pros and cons of this vehicle? Is there anything he doesn’t like about this vehicle? What kind of range is he getting out of it? Has he had range anxiety yet? Would he recommend one of these to a friend? Has he ever been stranded or left to wait because it needed to charge? Is he seeing any cost savings yet due to not using gas? What’s his electric bill looking like? Does he have the high voltage adapter or is he using the standard 120 V adapter? Has he had any issues with his vehicle yet? Any quirks or any other weird things going on? I’m sure I could find a few more to put in there but just saying I’d like to know these things.

[@Digital-Dan]

Check out Sandy Munro's channel, where he and his team review many new EVs, including the Mach E, at a very deep level. He likes it in general, BTW. Also the "Now You Know" channel features a father and son team who are primarily Tesla types, but who drove a Mach E for a week and reported on it in some depth.

[@B0xlife1]

@@Digital-Dan thanks! I definitely will!!

[@northdakotaham1752]

That car hasn't been driven enough to answer any of those questions. Wait until the owner has put 30k miles on it...if it ever gets that far. Most EVs never seem to get more than 25k miles on them before they are put up for sale.

[@cwie2968]

Food for thought. If you live in an apartment or condo complex are they willing to install charging stations? 300 units = alot of $$$.

[@redbaron6805]

I don't know anyone that has ever been stranded in an electric car anywhere. Just like I haven't run out of gas since the 1990's. Cars have range computers in them, they not only give you the range real time, but remind you several times when your range is low. Even using average electricity rates in the USA, driving electric cars is around 3 to 4 cents a mile using electricity, as low as 1 cent per mile using off peak rates. Compare that to around 10 to 15 cents per mile while burning gas. People who focus on the "electric bill" forget that that their gas station bill disappeared. So did the scheduled maintenance bill. You don't need a "high voltage adapter". You can use a standard 240V dryer outlet to charge pretty much any electric car. If the panel is anywhere close your garage, the cost is typically pretty cheap. I installed mine for less than $100. For most EV owners, the only difference day to day is they can skip the gas station and don't have to schedule in oil changes. And you have to spend an extra few seconds every couple of days to plug it in and unplug it, kind of like your phone.

[@zjw3504]

Ever since I got my 1st car I made it a habit to check my oil when I stop to get fuel. Even though my current vehicle doesn't use much oil between the 3500 miles I change the oil, it's a habit I prefer to keep!

[@Tipman2OOO]

Nice

[@lesklower7281]

This is one thing l like about your channel wizard is that you look at the underneath of any car even electric cars and we can see normal suspension and brakes at least the mechanicle trade will not die

[@nonickerson]

Being a Marine(Ship) Engineer Im partial to diesel and combustion engines however, I have a good amount of knowledge in regards to electric motors and I know just how reliable they can be and overall much simpler to work on. If a manufacturer was to come out with a commercial-grade EV truck/SUV I would be all for it no bs software updates just the absolute bare minimum industrial components Id have no issue getting rid of my diesel.

[@CyberlightFG]

Don't they install Diesel electric systems now?

[@nonickerson]

@@CyberlightFG not on larger ships I mostly work on oil tankers/bulk carriers, on some offshore supply and small passenger ships they use diesel hybrid systems but we still use heavy fuel oil and diesel.

[@NafanyaZX]

As long as battery packs remain as expensive as they are now, there will be no roadworthy cheap used EVs. I love the idea of an EV. But affordable it is not. Many vehicles on the road aren't worth more than a couple of grand. A brand new EV is nice indeed, but as of now, I don't see how an EV can be truly affordable (2k$) and roadworthy at the same time. Please tell me I'm wrong, cuz I'd love to be wrong on this. Batteries last around a decade and then you can consider your nice EV totaled. What resale value can you expect knowing that a tesla replacement pack goes for 22k? Who in their right mind is going to sink that much money into a decade old vehicle? Sure, you can do what Hoovie did and ask uncle Rich to do it on the cheap, by replacing only some failed modules in the pack. Still doesn't change the fact that the rest of the original modules are on their way out too.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

What you save in gas by the time the battery goes out 8-20 years from purchase will pay for a new battery and then some EVs get equivalent of like 100mpg when you convert cost of electric to gas

[@mikenormandy9250]

Until they can make the batteries reliable and affordable and last long enough, EV's just can't take over the market...If it stays the way it is, and gas vehicles go the way of the horse and buggy, ONLY the rich and wealthy will be able to afford a vehicle (Exactly like in the 1900's when gas powered vehicles came out and ONLY the rich could afford them). I worked in the Geico Claims dept for sometime and I remember a brand new Smart EV was driven off the lot, the owner/driver damaged the underbody of the vehicle on some black ice chunks...The vehicle cost was $29K, the replacement battery, $32K...The vehicle was totaled in a matter of minutes and It has been the same way since....You can go on any car buying site and see a 8-10 year old Tesla for $10-$15K all day, Vehicles that were $90k+ new. They seem like an excellent buy except the only thing these vehicles need are NEW batteries...Which cost in the $10's of thousands....Bringing that 'cheap used' EV back into expensive territory....

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

@L W the batteries only cost $22k if you have a model S Which is a six figure car If you get a model 3 or Mach e the cost for new battery is more like $16k which is still a lot but is 2/3 of what you claim and what you’ll save in gas will pay for battery by the time it goes out

[@RothBeyondTheGrave]

EXACTLY. WHEN (not if) the electronic garbage fails, it will cost more than every ICE car you have owned combined & you'll NEVER be able to do it yourself. EV's ars strictly for the rich & for supporters of a throwaway society.

[@RothBeyondTheGrave]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit literally the dumbest statement I've ever heard. He fixed a check engine light on an 11 yr old car with a $30 oil change. In 11 yrs, a $20k battery swap is saving no one anything. Bye bye used car market. $1k to replace the button where a door handle used to be....getting a dealer only software update so you can open your glovebox. Yeah. Savings.

[@vwuser9]

Thank you for adding EV's to your show! I love my 2022 electric Mini Cooper SE, bought used at 14,500 miles. BUT FIRST I had to endure a little stress as I had the car for only 10 days (bought from a Ford dealer) when a cell went bad essentially bricking the car though the software allowed minimal driving (could drive to the side of the road or onto a flatbed loader). It sat in the local Mini dealer's shop for a full month until a tech or techs were sent up from California (to Washington) to fix it. That was a year ago. I have solar panels and home charging (220V 40Amp). The online charging calculator shows I would pay, if I did not have solar panels, $3 to fill the 'tank' to 80%. In searching the Mini forums I see no mention of others having suffered a cell failure.

[@gelmibson883]

Great dystopian future. Demolition Man style.

[@matthewseymour8972]

I'm in the UK and both our cars are electric. No oil changes (though here it tends to be annual) but also no visiting the fuel station. Plug the car in overnight... it's so much better. Shops like the Wizard's will undoubtedly embrace the technology and get trained up. Plus remember brakes, suspension, all the wear and tear parts are just the same.

[@randolfo1265]

Yes. Wizard even said he is on the side of electric cars. He predicted fifteen years. By then he will be hiring all the young techs he can get and be successful as he is now, and not working as hard.

[@billyjoejimbob56]

Actually, brakes will not be the same. EVs still have to stop quickly in emergencies, and they are heavier than same sized IC vehicles, so big "foundation" brakes are needed. But driven moderately EVs can perform ordinary traffic stops using only regeneration (aka one pedal driving). Many EVs will go hundreds of thousands of miles on original brakes.

[@Digital-Dan]

I have a 2002 Toyota RAV4-EV that I bought in 2009. Recently I realized I had not had the car in for maintenance for 7 years. The service was needed, but the service didn't turn up any concerns. I'll admit I've had to deal with tires, brakes, wheel bearings, etc., in those 7 years, but no part of the drive train. Right to repair will have some influence on the software issue, but it's sort of like wanting to repair your own dead AC compressor -- not something most will try.

[@WookieSenshi]

Now imagine a 202X Toyota/Honda EV line up. Stupid reliable.

[@supermodelcars5279]

Those Toyotas according to Car Wizard are dead reliable.

[@rwieber79]

That's because it's a Toyota. They are more reliable than anything else by far. Try that same thing with a GM, BMW, Mercedes, Dodge, VW or even Ford and you'd be putting out thousands. If these companies cant or more likely just dont put out quality products from the 100+ year old industry standard in vehicles (internal combustion engines) then imagine what kind of trash they would put out of a new high tech type of vehicle. Lol. Think about it like this when you bought a vehicle in the 90s and before you could pretty much count on it to last atleast 15 to 20 years or more if you kept the oil changed and did routine maintenance. As we've gotten into the 2010s and up and the sophisticated vehicles have gotten they're made with cheaper materials and sold for higher prices but dont last nearly as long. Companies care only about how much money can be made now and could care less about quality control. And that's not even counting the newest trend of planned obsolescence of parts to try and force consumers into buying a newer vehicle more often than they would normally. The car companies would love nothing more than to basically have everyone getting new vehicles every 3 to 5 years and that's what much of this whole push for EVs is about as well under the guise of environmental safety when in fact the total processes of mining for the minerals needed to make the batteries to the actual manufacturing of components and then disposal of the dead ones will far outweigh the amount pollution that our vehicles are emitting today.

[@Stripestore]

@@WookieSenshi Having owned several modern EVs (Leaf, Bolt, Model 3), I don’t really see where Toyota and Honda will have that same reliability advantage they had with ICE. They’ll be reliable cars for sure, but so will most everything else.

[@redbaron6805]

@@rwieber79 I think some people like yourself are having a bit of a selective rose colored memory issue. Cars today are MORE reliable, not less as far as the engines and transmissions are concerned. I remember I had a car around the 1990's where the engine was basically worn out and shot by 100k miles. I remember my 1994 Honda Accord was notoriously unreliable, where the entire A/C had to be replaced in short order with barely 50k miles on it, the brake system failed, the ABS module was leaking, etc. etc. The dealer talked me into buying an extended warranty for it up to 72k miles, and boy, did that thing pay for itself several times over. Compare that to my 2012 Acura TSX, which is basically the Honda Accord in Europe. Rock solid reliable, has around 130k miles on it, and it still runs like a Swiss watch. No comparison to my 1994 Honda Accord. While cars today have become more sophisticated, and there are some teething issues with the new 8, 9 and 10 speed transmissions. Lets not pretend for a second that cars from the 1980's and 1990's were some masterclass in reliable engineering. They were not.

[@stephenhayes3765]

I have a specific odd issue with electric. My mom lives 1800 miles from me, cost to fly is almost $10,000 but driving a rental Lincoln Navigator cost me $1200 total with fuel and hotels. The time to charge right now is long enough my 2 day drive turns into 4 days. For normal commuting it’s great

[@bestofrandom4236]

What are you flying that cost 10k?

[@Mabeylater293]

What the hell are you flying on, a gold plated unicorn???

[@stephenhayes3765]

Delta costs that much for 4 people. If I go private it’s $12000-16000 depending on the aircraft. To fly a low cost carrier I have to leave the state and drive 2-3 hours one way

[@darkmugetsu6572]

Big killer for these for me to not like them is their batteries. They are lithium so if they combust there basically is no way to put out the fire, and 2 they degrade so if you want to buy used, you have to shell out almost or at least 20 grand for a battery replacement.

[@garnetdavey8776]

They are throw away cars!

[@drunkenhobo5039]

The lithium isn't the problem, it's the electrolyte that catches fire. And you can put out the fire, even with water. They can re-ignite however, as damaged cells can end up with a bit of thermal runaway and set the whole process off again. If we solve the problem of using organic electrolytes then they'll become very difficult to burn. Also worth remembering that petrol is pretty flammable itself. And petrol cars are still more likely to burn than EVs. Just ask Hoovie!

[@Digital-Dan]

Battery durations continue to improve. Odds are if you buy an EV new you won't need to replace the battery. Jury is out on how they will endure, but replacements are bound to be cheaper over time, since costs continue to drop.

[@garnetdavey8776]

@@Digital-Dan EV's last over 300,000 kms in Canadian weather? Never seen that ever!

[@AJ-zv9tn]

@@Digital-Dan they are like iphones, the battery is the big killer with them and it's the main point of design obsolescence

[@peterlutken]

Through various tax incentives, reduced road tolls and cheap(ish) power in a rapidly expanding charging network we’re at nearly 2/3 of all new passenger cars sold in Norway in 2021 being pure EV. In the nine or so years with ever increasing market shares of EVs we see two major issues not necessarily seen in ICE powered cars: 1) less use of mechanical braking force (due to use of regeneration) the rotors see less use and rust is an issue to watch out for. Especially where roads are cleared using salt in the winter. 2) increased weight, due to large battery packs, the EVs go through tires in a hurry So as long as you stock up on brake rotors, tire supplies and figure out how to diagnose batteries you should be in business for years to come :)

[@shermandaniel8285]

Let’s not forget CA has rolling brown outs ! They are not making enough power to meet todays needs ! So let’s increase the demand 1000% ?!? We are no where near being ready ! No matter what AOC says !!! Some politicians are trying to destroy the source of 80% of our power ?!!?

[@redbaron6805]

@@shermandaniel8285 Hate to break it to you, but CA problems are due to transmission lines and forest fires, not due to "lack of power". That is beside the fact that most EV's charge at night when the grid is idle, which has nothing to do with peak power use during the day.

[@shermandaniel8285]

@@redbaron6805 really ?!? Based on what ????? You understand what a brown out is , RIGHT ?

[@RobertHancock1]

@@shermandaniel8285 Almost like smarter people than you have already considered such things, genius.

[@lutomson3496]

@@redbaron6805 no hate to break it to you is california shut down natural gas peaker plants as they "arent green" crap and your lack of knowledge of the energy industry in California is evident keep reading all the green energy propaganda instead of facts, when my power is off for weeks at a time electric car is a fail and always will be in rural areas as the US is 80% rural good for the city slickers and flatlanders not the rest

[@Zamugustar]

I still feel ford missed out by not calling this the Thunderbird E or something along those lines as they are never bringing back the old Tbird again.

[@danagovang2520]

I'm not a hater, but I wish they hadn't called it a Mustang. Lots of other good names, like Comet, Maverick, Cougar, T-Bird...

[@derfstang480]

Explorer ST-E or Lightning SUV / Crossover. LOTS of other names they could’ve used...just not Mustang ☹️

[@waterloo123100]

The only name that makes sense to bring back is the galaxy E

[@Chris_Troxler]

The Taurus E would've worked too. Lord knows it's the size of an bull.🙄

[@felicewillilms4875]

I own an electric car. There are many obstacles to overcome. The biggest are live in any high rise (most big cities) you cannot charge. Level 2 chargers take 7+ hours - think 3 cars per day per charger. You cannot build 350 Amp chargers retrofitting in these buildings. You are also not going to have 30+ level 2 chargers. So we need 1000 mile plus range, faster charging, etc. Second, the rare earth minerals of Lithium and Cobalt are 95% controlled by China. That will make USA more dependent on China than we ever were on OPEC. Will this improve?

[@IndependenceCityMotoring]

Battery degradation is still a HUGE issue to overcome for EVs to last as long as ICE vehicles.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

No it is not. Current generation EV batteries will outlast the rest of the vehicle. You are thinking about first generation Nissan Leafs and Model S's that were known for their battery issues.

[@rabbicovidstein4421]

@@Simon-dm8zv very good gentile good thinking... it is also time to switch to a soy based diet, and get all of your vaccines in a timely manner

[@masoncnc]

500,000 mi Teslas are well documented and out there. One got a under warranty battery swap at $250,000. Try that in a crap Chevy

[@rabbicovidstein4421]

@@Simon-dm8zv Also please make a generous monthly donation to Israel please. Not doing so is anti semetic

[@archygrey9093]

@@rabbicovidstein4421 Are you like 4? Because you're acting like it.

[@badopinionsrighthere]

I passed one of these earlier today, on one hand I love that it is a normal looking car for the most part, on the other I wish it had stood out so I could have slowed down as I passed it to look at it for longer. I am super excited for these, I hope one day I'll be able to afford one

[@josiahargueta9389]

Just buy a Tesla

[@affalterbachamg2094]

Would love to see omega's front parking lot with 2 / 3 EV Chargers, really cementing the seriousness of Wizards EV Agreememt

[@SouthsideKidd550]

Car Wizard, I will say this. Yes, I am a busy person but I WILL find time CONSTANTLY to open the hood of my car. I have OCD when it comes to maintenance on a car. I fix my car BEFORE it breaks.😊 The alternator started to "sing" one day but still had a charge. That same day, I purchased an alternator from the Honda dealership. Surprisingly, they had it in stock.

[@catfishbilly7425]

I would have to respectfully disagree with the wizard on this one. I am in the same profession as the wizard and I get asked a question several times a day now that I was seldom asked even 1 year ago. People are CONSTANLY asking me what's the newest vehicle they can buy that DOESN'T have all the electronics and gadgetry seen in todays cars. The majority of my customers DON'T want newer cars... they just want something that starts and drives... no bells, no whistles, no gadgets, no gizmos, no whozewhatsits, screens, OTA updates, auto pilot or any of that stuff. I'm also seeing an increase in the number of engine and transmission rebuilds being done because the vehicle owner would rather get the major repair done over getting a new car. Many people don't want EVs, they don't want big screens or infotainment systems and they don't want the potential of having $20k batteries fail. An couple thousand dollar engine job is much more manageable than a $20k battery job. Simply put, the majority of my customers want cars to be, well... cars. They don't want cars to be computers.

[@northdakotaham1752]

I have to disagree with him also bc I am seeing the whole EV movement being pushed by politics, the war on fossil fuels. We have seen this before from 2008 until 2015 when the political climate changed back to pre 2008. I also believe that the likely future would be alternative fuels rather than electric because of the lack of reliability concerning "green" electric power generation...which itself is a bogus term bc there is no such thing.

[@Globbs]

I like tech, but when I get in my car I don't want to stress about all the bullshit that can break. I just want a reliable vehicle that does the job. Companies want cars to break. All this plastic stuff which is great for 5 years of ownership and then disintegrates. They want to tell us that they give a shit about the environment, it's really that they don't get to sell cars if we have something reliable to drive every day. If we gave a shit about the environment we'd stop making safety standards every year that requires a company to redesign the car (great for business though), and hopefully the one from two generations ago becomes obsolete enough that you need to purchase a new vehicle. Your cars don't have to be disposable.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@Globbs that is why I keep my old vehicles. No, they aren't pretty or stylish and they don't have Bluetooth or even, in several cases, a digital radio. But these old vehicles always start and run. The transmissions always work, repair parts are cheap and I can repair nearly eve rything in them. I have almost no money invested in them and what little money I did spend on them I have more than recovered by not buying new. Additionally, since they were purchased with cash, no need to buy expensive full coverage insurance. I have owned and driven several of these vehicles for so many years that they have now become classics and since they are still in pretty good shape, I could sell them for way more than I paid for them. I just wish I had space to store more vehicles bc every garage at home is full!

[@1SaG]

I really don't like that Ford. Not because it's an EV but because they turned a Mustang into a friggin' SUV/Crossover. Just call it a Mach-E, get rid of all the Mustang design-cues and build a proper electric Mustang instead.

[@geraldchapman6865]

Thunderbird

[@pclayton5063]

They should have called it the Burro. Fat and ugly and the ugliest Mustang since the Mustang II.

[@jwenting]

indeed. I like the car but as a car, not as a Mustang.

[@timl5970]

Agreed. Ford used the Mustang name for marketing purposes. The Mach-E has none of the Mustang DNA. The people who love Mustangs are not the same people who will buy the Mach-E.

[@sofascialistadankulamegado1781]

But it's meant to wipe out a group of spectators when it's flying sideways from a failed high speed burnout.

[@ContraryTrends]

Great video Car Wizard, an electric car will save you thousands upon thousands of dollars, of course I still like my AMG v8 exhausts but I know in the end that it's purely emotionally driven rather than logical.

[@Tipman2OOO]

In what world would an electric car save you thousands? To get a decently new car you're going to be making payments. To get an older one would be a gamble, and if the battery ends up being bad at some point, that's going to be more than the cost of a used car!

[@boeingav8tr525]

Dave, don't be so sure the software will be 'locked down' Tesla already offers licensed access. Third party shops are already popping up (Electrified Garage, Gruber Motors, WK057.... As for normal mechanicals, my local small shop mechanic is already working on the suspension on my Tesla (at 100k+ miles)

[@CanadianRoadandTrack]

Wizard is at 666k Subs 🤘👏

[@SavageBunny1]

Illuminati Confirmed...

[@ericcindycrowder7482]

been driving electric cars for over a decade…..2011 Volt, 2013 Leaf, 2017 Bolt EV. But I still like ICE engines too. I don’t know about the Mach-e, but most electric cars have a setting to turn “creep” at stop on or off. Also can turn in or off regenerate braking when lifting off the accelerator pedal

[@MidwestBoom]

If you don't mind me asking that seems like a lot of cars for that time period do you just like switching vehicles or?

[@Veldkamp88]

I don't want to live in a world where I can't drive a classic manual car anymore

[@rigo62982]

Truth

[@SpinnakerFL]

OK, boomer.

[@Veldkamp88]

@@SpinnakerFL I'm 33 and a car enthusiast. I bet you don't even know how to change a tire lol

[@SpinnakerFL]

@@Veldkamp88 You would bet wrong. I've been a shade tree mechanoc for almost as long as you have been alive. I've had 67 and 72 Mustangs (in reverse order,) 84 Hurst Olds, 95 RX-7, two Supras and a WRX. I currently own three cars. And I can tell you that the Mach E (and any Tesla) are superior to just about anything. It's not worth giving up on life.

[@Veldkamp88]

@@SpinnakerFL 67 Chevelle (first car), 96 TA, 92 Davey Allison edition T-Bird, 95 V8 T-Bird (Friggin mistake), 03 Legacy Outback wagon, 06 STI, 11 Impreza Outback, 91 MR2 (Miss that), and 99 Grand Cherokee Laredo (Project). Yes, I can count the cars I've had and currently have. Also, you misinterpreted what I said. I don't mind EVs but I'm not letting go of gas power vehicles. Especially classics and manuals.

[@millerfamilycr]

As owner of TWO Mach-Es (GT Performance & Select models), I concur - these will be simpler and less maintenance hassle for today's lifestyle. Just a couple quick notes: (1) I believe regenerative braking happens even without one peddle driving (1PD), so brakes are used far less than ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles; (2) These vehicles are heavy - topping off at 5,000 lbs, so there are expectations to have to replace tires more frequently than usually expected. Especially for those summer tires on the GT PE - the temptation to punch it at every intersection means more rubber left on the road! (3) Cold temps really decrease all BEV (battery electric vehicle) range, some as much as 35-45%, takes a bit getting used to and heightens need to have a charger at home.

[@redbaron6805]

You are correct of course. The cold temps reduce battery capacity by about 20%, the other 15% to 20% is due to heating the car. Because combustion engine cars are so inefficient and waste so much of the energy they carry on board as waste heat, that heat can be used to heat up the car without much of a penalty. It is precisely because EV's are so efficient that they don't have all that wasted energy they can redirect to cabin heating and have to created it when it is needed on demand.

[@Nitrorcman189]

If I recall, wasn't cash for clunkers a complete disaster? Nobody used it because the program severely undervalued many cars?

[@markusstrobl1067]

Cash for clunkers got rid of countless early 90's Ford Explorers. There were videos of fields filled with them waiting for destruction.

[@tinystar3010]

Yup. My parents were poor and during that time refused to sell any cars they had because it would have hurt them more than helped. The government never really tries to help out, they just entice people with illusions to push an agenda.

[@gschweiger]

Cash For Clunkers resulted in somewhere between 500,000 to 700,000 transactions. As an economic stimulus it was pretty much a wash, with only modest short term gains during the two months it operated. It did result in a modest 0.6-0.7 mpg increase in average fuel economy and somewhere around a 0.4% decrease in annual emissions. It also resulted in replacing less safe cars with new, safer vehicles.

[@Digital-Dan]

As I recall, there was a fixed price ($1000?) for your clunker. If that suited you, fine, if not, fine. I don't know how well the program did overall.

[@Brave-Octopus]

It ruined the used car market for years. They stopped it for a reason as all it did was screw first time car buyers out of a lot of affordable used cars. It also did abysmal to the goal it was supposed to achieve.

[@jackbauer4607]

Plenty of bullshit in this video. Electric cars ARE being forced in many countries through increasing emissions regulations and setting deadlines for ICE cars to go away. People should decide, not the governments. Besides increasing the charging infrastructure won't magically solve the problem if the grid can't handle the power requirements and in many places grids are already working on the limit and struggling in the summers. Oh and the cars themselves aren't practical for longer trips since their range is small and charging still takes way more time than visiting a traditional petrol station. You may say that range will increase in new ICE cars, but what about the millions of cars already on the road? You can't increase their default range (in fact it will become even smaller over time).

[@gsfinatic]

Exactly, very true. The EV proponents are living in a fantasy land.

[@TorquilMcLeod]

Agreed, Car Wizard's videos are ususally pretty well rounded, but this missing the largest obstables for electric vehicles, namely the electrical infrastructure (generation, transmission, and charging stations), and the rare earth metals needed for battery and motor production. The electrical generation capacity is nowhere near where it needs to be to meet future needs, and there is no progress being made to increase generation capacity as wind and solar don't have anywhere near the capacity needed and we aren't having a serious discussion about developing nuclear power. We don't have enough of the rare earth metals needed for batteries and motors in the western world, as the rest are in conflict zones. The automotive industry is likely well aware of all of this, but it's easier to plan as though they're going to be producing all EVs by 2040, as they stay inline with coming government regulations, then when we get closer to the date and it becomes more apparent that they've tried but just can't get the resources, they can lobby for change much like they did in California in the 90s. Likely what will happen is EVs will become a percentage of the market based on demand and available resources for those who want that performance or tech similar to how diesel vehicles are now, with ICE making up the difference.

[@Unclejake]

Mustangs and Broncos have 2 doors.

[@adaml102]

Ok so what I've noticed people park their ev at a charging station then have someone in a gas burner come pick them up. I think evs have a place but the way they are being pushed they are no more than the plastic bag. Remember when they were going to save the world.

[@InternetDude]

I don't want to change the oil on my reliable Honda so I'm gonna go buy an electric Ford...... hmm....

[@rutatutut]

Lol. So true.

[@espensund1996]

Wow, it takes courage to say what you just said mr Wizard. A lot of mechanics would say that they dont want the EC around, but you do the opposite. Cred to you 👏🏻👏🏻

[@thatnissanchannel5410]

Honestly ef the electric car and ef your opinion anything the government gets involved in is never ever good.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@thatnissanchannel5410 exactly! The EV is a good example of failed government pushing a failed product.

[@thatnissanchannel5410]

@@northdakotaham1752 to have the government have control over cars YOU buy with your own money... bruh some people are so brainwashed

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@thatnissanchannel5410 I don't have a problem with people buying an EV, just a problem with a government that mandates the choice.

[@thatnissanchannel5410]

@@northdakotaham1752 yep exactly. I should have the choice to either buy a new ev or drive my old dino car without worring if one day it'll be gone forever because ev is being forced down my throat instead of just a choice.

[@dabandel]

Wizard, as the owner of a Mach-e GT Performance Edition, I think future mechanics will have plenty to do, the industry is just going to change and techs will become more software and electronics savvy. Also, performance parts are a multi-billion dollar industry. Ford already sells the "Eluminator" EV motor from the Performance Parts catalog and has said they will be offering battery controllers and other components. You think Ford, GM and the aftermarket are going to just say "Oh well, it's electric, guess we can't play with our toys anymore" and give up on performance parts sales and kill "car culture"? Doubt it. I'd bet there will be quite a lot of shops (Like Rich Rebuilds and Electrified Garage) that will specialize in EV maintenance, repair, conversions and performance and a thriving aftermarket, but it may take a decade.

[@joemaxwell7185]

It's going to take longer when those companies pay to litigate people like Rich. Why innovate when you can litigate away innovation that competes with you.

[@mrsparkle9048]

One-pedal driving will save brake life, sure, but it'll also increase range, since you're using the regenerative braking to convert some of your momentum back to energy, as opposed to losing it to heat in your friction brakes.

[@red58fury]

Can’t wait to drive the GT version. Drove the normal version and it threw me back in the seat when I got on it. Fun cars.

[@rigo62982]

Fake sound garbage

[@SpinnakerFL]

@@rigo62982 Cry more, boomer.

[@aussie2uGA]

The issue with the GT is Ford doesnt quite have the technology mastered yet. They only allow 5 seconds of full amperage, then they need to throttle it back. This is why Tesla is still years ahead in the actual "technology" area. Tesla is now able to sustain nearly 2000amps of power to the motors. It's insane.

[@tim3172]

@@aussie2uGA Oh no! I'm constantly needing to go from 0-85 in less than 5 seconds. Being able to only hit 84 from a dead stop before it lowers the amps is a deal-killer.

[@aussie2uGA]

@@tim3172 Um, then why did he want the "GT" version over the base???

[@ctsfiddler]

These EV's mean one thing for sure, you are dependent on the manufacturer and dealer. The software can be used to nickel and dime the owner for extras and control everything. New technology will most likely make lithium iron and lithium phosphate obsolete within a few years. For that reason, and i'm broke, i'll wait. Why don't they put on a nice chrome grill, i know it's only decor, but they put fake vents.

[@ryanhorsley9965]

@tie pup You are going to hurt the feelings of paranoiacs and morons by relaying your experience. It's been that way for me too with the EV I own, except it's been 4 years with zero maintenance.

[@Mr_Joseph979]

@tie pup just curious, what EV is it?

[@Mr_Joseph979]

@@ryanhorsley9965 just curious, what kind of EV is it?

[@Mr_Joseph979]

@tie pup ok cool!

[@NotUrDJ]

I think it's about time we get notifications about what might actually be broken instead of just a check engine light lol. But actually... That'd be pretty neat for the few years that's left for ice cars.

[@Digital-Dan]

OBD-2 scanners have been doing quite a good job of this for a couple of decades now, and many are available to the individual owner. They are remarkably detailed about what is wrong. Unlike Windows 10 on PCs, which signals a USB device disconnect with a chime, with no easy way to connect that to an individual failure.

[@G-Mastah-Fash]

@@Digital-Dan The Microsoft repair utility has to be the most useless program ever coded. Through the 5 versions of Windows i've used it has never worked even once.

[@BlackhawkPilot]

Wizard learn how to maintain, repair and replace battery packs. I drive a Mercedes BEV and love it. Had an issue with the battery heater, $2500 so there will still be work for mechanics. My only issue is BEVs can either not tow my travel trailer or the mileage drops by half or more.

[@marsgal42]

I’m intrigued by the technology and have been following it closely. When I bought my VW Golf in 2016 I had a look at Prius and Model S. Neither quite worked for me at the time. The next time I’m buying a car things will be different. Part of why I signed up for Turo is to sample some of the new stuff.

[@rob5944]

Don't things like battery performance in the cold, limited infrastructure, the questionable materials used and the limited resources available worry you then?

[@typxxilps]

@@rob5944 questionable materials used ? Which kind of battery cells are you talking about ? Did you ask the same question about the oil exploration , the wasted area or the BRENT SPAR ? Shell was no longer able to sell gas cause people did not buy from them anymore due to the environment pollution they had planned by sinking the oil platform brent spar. You will not get any new iCE car in 2035 cause game over except you can afford 1 or 2 million exotic cars. Better be prepared - and the infrastructure must be there at least for tesla owners and the investors in tesla which you are for sure not. So you missed an opportunity I guess. You repeat the myths and guess what: dinosaurs died the smaller bird survived cause they had been faster

[@rob5944]

@@typxxilps I'm referring to materials such as lithium and cobalt, I gather they are somewhat toxic and in limited supply, so much so that I believe Elon Musk is changing the composition of his batteries? Scaremongering always revolves around new technology, whether it be good or bad. For example I remember reading an article in a computer magazine back in the 80s, it prophesied that people who couldn't program would be considered illiterate in 25 years. When natural gas was discovered it was proclaimed that it would be too cheap to meter, neither of these came to pass. I agree that ICE vehicles need to be replaced, but it's far too early to say how and when....and with what. To finish, I find your assertion that EV cars will be too expensive for the ordinary consumer to buy frankly ridiculous. Mainstream buyers are the core business of the motor industry, not exotica. It's volume cars that the market depends on, not niche items like Rolex watches or Armani suits. Don't worry, because I'm not.

[@Simiocrates]

@@typxxilps if you really think that 2035 thing is going to happen, I got a bridge to sell you

[@marsgal42]

@@rob5944 That's why I chose the Golf over the Model S. Infrastructure was the deal breaker: with nowhere to plug one in at home Tesla just wasn't going to work for me. I live in an apartment and the building management aren't interested in EV infrastructure. Most of my driving is on the highway, negating the advantage of the Prius. And so on. Current EVs are heavy. This will provide employment for tire and suspension people for a long time to come.

[@russellhltn1396]

Keep in mind "the future is electric" is all based on the idea that we can make the power grid green. That's far from guaranteed.

[@Mr_Joseph979]

Added to that fact that lithium mining along with cobalt and other metals will never, ever, be green.

[@northdakotaham1752]

No electricity, no EV. Simple as that.

[@billgorman481]

The last thing I want to do is pay for an engine overhaul! Oil changes are cheap and easy!

[@froey198033]

So if those large batteries go out it's going to cost you more to replace then a combustion engine. Think if that.

[@Kevin-xy3yr]

If that Mach E was purchased used in MN it's very likely my wife's. (Road Salt fits being a MN car) We traded it in a couple of months ago with 14k. Not because we didn't love it. The Black one we ordered last year was finally in. We got our first mach E as a dealer demo and never canceled the new car order. Sometimes I think we should have keep both. Great vehicle and quick.

[@Tipman2OOO]

Lol nice

[@QueensGTO_Viper]

Auto journalists: "The market really wants to ban ICE cars." See kids, this is what we call lying.

[@proud_emmerian6510]

The government: "Allow us to introduce ourselves."

[@poluticon]

it's going to happen eventually, but not in 10-15 years like he said. My best guess is in the next 25-30 years we'll see electric cars be the norm while ICE cars will be just for hobbyists and the like.

[@malice6081]

But when they ban ice cars we will have a whole different problem. EVs are stupid expensive compared to ice cars.

[@martinvalencia6141]

@@malice6081 Tesla model 3 starts At under 40k, a lot of new ice cars with the same performance and creature comforts going for much much more. They will only get cheaper too as more competition enters the market.

[@poluticon]

@@malice6081 they're relatively expensive now, but the prices always come down. All new technology is expensive at first. The more car companies that make EV cars the more prices will lower.

[@someonebald2022]

Good luck cannonballing an electric vehicle across the US (how many charges to get 3,000 miles?). What happens to the batteries when they're no longer viable; is there an exchange/recycle system in place? Also it doesn't look like a Mustang. It looks like a Toyota Prius on stilts.

[@trigun989]

Well that's why these rules and laws are set for 2030-2040. Still plenty of time to update infrastructure and technology if the demand is there.

[@drunkenhobo5039]

Ah yes, cannonballing. That common past-time many of us partake in.

[@someonebald2022]

@@trigun989 The last part of your post is the kicker: "If the demand is there". The way market economies go is "If the demand is there we will cater for it", as opposed to the NEEDED "If we build it people will come" for EV's, because "THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!". JMO.

[@someonebald2022]

@@drunkenhobo5039 "Ah, Sarcasm. That's the greatest form of wit, I don't think!" , as Oscar Wilde said.

[@billfrete8487]

I remember Texas 6 months ago... People had enough of a hard time to get any sort of electricity, imagine 5pm when everyone and their dog plug in their car/ truck?

[@tinystar3010]

My only real problem with the electric car movement is the reasoning behind it. It's claimed to be friendly for the environment but in reality the mining of lithium for the batteries alone per car, is creating more pollution in the manufacturing process then running any typical gasoline engine car. So the big push for nature friendly isn't really nature friendly. It's just diverting the issue its meant to solve. I dont doubt the electric car movement is coming, it will happen, but it wont be the answer. They need to really research alternative sources. Ways to create fuels that can convert the cars we have now instead of wasting all the resources that were put into fuel driven cars. But I digress. People will learn. When it's too late.

[@Danny365x]

Easier to control people when you can limit their power or software can stop you from driving more then big brother allows. Or something like that

[@tinystar3010]

Yup

[@freedomfox8183]

@@tinystar3010 not really because people aren't going to buy the cars if that happens there's always going to be people who want combustion engines that will not spend a dime on EV at least not in our lifetime or the lifetime after they can push it all they want but just like you can get an old Chevelle or El Camino now combustion cars will just go up in value if that's the case because people will always find a way to have their combustion and racing just like we figure everything else out

[@drunkenhobo5039]

Where do people get this information from? Is this from Jeremy Clarkson in like 2009? Lithium isn't even mined - it's taken from salt flats that are pretty much biologically dead (on account of them being salt flats). There's also very little lithium in a lithium battery. If you want to talk about hazardous metal mining & processing at least go on about cobalt, nickel or even steel. Lithium is insignificant.

[@Digital-Dan]

@@Danny365x Potential risks, for sure. Not the intent of the current manufacturers, I'd say.

[@Horizon301.]

Oil change intervals in the UK with VW Group is 18k for petrol and 20k for diesels. 20k for BMW diesels also or 2 years, whichever comes first.

[@redbaron6805]

Except, those intervals have been shown to be far too high. German cars have suffered catastrophic early engine failures due to the oil change intervals being too long, causing excessive wear on the delicate plastic parts they kindly used to route the timing chain and other internal components.

[@Horizon301.]

@@redbaron6805 doesn’t bother me or the majority of owners who keep their car in warranty I suppose. It brings running costs right down. Our fiesta used to cost more to maintain than a diesel A6 because A) it was petrol so nowhere near as economical and B) the intervals around ten years back on it were every 10k miles. It’s why we went all diesel however VAG increased to 18k so we went for petrol as it was cheaper on the Audi. It’s still not as economical though as diesel sadly. 730D is more economical than most Petrol Audis, including the A3 with a 150bhp

[@dbrandon4528]

Diesel will never go away. Commercial use will always need it

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

They will not. They will switch faster than the private users because they are fond of their money and do not want to pay more than they have to.

[@BeingMe23]

Don't hold your breath...

[@Flammable281]

Electric vehicles will change a lot of the automotive industry from oil/gas to tools to supplies. All in all though I like electric vehicles too for all the reasons Mr Wizard said.

[@Tipman2OOO]

And where do people think all this electricity is magically coming from? Unicorns on treadmills? Most of it is dirty energy, they're simply making the emissions somewhere else than on the road. Honestly I think we're too deep, and change isnt happening fast enough or even in the right way. Global warming will definitely keep advancing.

[@Flammable281]

@@Tipman2OOO I agree with all you said except the gorbal warming part. Gorbal warming was invented to make a certain sect of society, the elitist, filthy rich and enslaving us all. C02 is not a poison. Plants and trees convert this into the air we breath. The Gorbal warming crowd are trying to scare us into believing this nonsense about the world getting warmer because of man made co2 by using changed in weather patterns. The planet goes thru periods of hot and cold cycles and has for a very long time.

[@Tipman2OOO]

@@Flammable281 hey I hear you, but where part of my family lives, it's been getting over 100 degrees during the summer the last few years, along with all the forests catching on fire. It's definitely not normal!

[@neonreign2988]

If auto manufacturers want to release an ev conversion kit then I'll pay the money to swap it in my IS300, but I don't think simply expecting everyone to dispose of all of ICE cars is the one stop shop solution. I also don't want to deal with overreach by car dealerships with ads, repairs, and surveillance. I'm also concerned with the amount of lithium that will be extracted and the amount of e-waste it will create from an environmental perspective (if fossil fuels power ev stations then it is a wash in terms of greenhouse gas emissions tradeoffs). I still prefer hydrogen fuel cell, but only time will tell. We also need the adequate infrastructure because the electrical grid is not sufficient enough, it will take decades to get to the point where we need to be. Main stream discourse also fails to talk about the tax on electricity that will take place because we already have a gas tax that addresses infrastructure projects, and it will be replaced if/when reliance on gas subsides.

[@y2kc0wb0y]

Respectfully. ICE has had 135+ years of innovation. What would battery technology look like in 135+? FYI: The power grid argument is based on total speculation - challenge you to dig in a little on that one. I did a paper in college about the gas industry converting to hydrogen fuels. It would take about 15/16 years. Converting and storing Hydrogen uses electricity so why not move further up the food chain to get your energy independence? Finally, IS300 is one of greatest 2JZ era sedans. #happynewyear.

[@Digital-Dan]

Companies are emerging that can fully extract the important materials from expired car batteries and recycle them. It could become nearly a closed loop, going forward. At any rate, the lithium does not seem to be the limiting material -- cobalt and nickel are more problematic -- and the latter are being replaced in batteries that are already nearly as good, using iron and other common elements. Tesla does not advertise all, more's the pity. Nor do they dicker on price. The surveillance is potentially an issue, for sure. Once gasoline production and delivery is added to the mix as well as the gasoline/diesel consumption itself, even coal-powered EVs have been demonstrated to be more eco-friendly than comparable ICE cars. I don't expect you to take my word for it, though. Clearly, as the fossil fuels are replaced around the world by sustainable energy, both utility and rooftop, this picture only gets better. My Northern CA utility claims to be 100% sustainable, although they have to use some rhetorical chicanery to get there (carbon offsets, not really knowing where each electron is really coming from, etc.) It is definitely a work in progress, but a work whose end point is pretty clear.

[@yamilmontes1365]

My J35A5 ran low on oil cause it consumed it without me knowing.....now I check it every week. You can also tell if its low because you won't hear VTEC actuate. The crossover just won't happen, and it's especially apparent if you have a cold air intake.

[@daviddesrosiers1946]

To have everyone charging their electric cars, we need to produce six times the amount of electricity we currently consume. If you think we're going to cover that with solar and wind, you have another thing coming.

[@tinystar3010]

Agreed. Electric cars are not the answer. They only divert the issues elsewhere.

[@richardgarriga6766]

synthetic fuels are the answer.

[@daviddesrosiers1946]

@@richardgarriga6766 That's a much more practical solution than electric. People are being misled about how viable electric vehicles are. You're talking amounts of energy production and delivery that are a pipe dream. Sorry, Wizard, but it ain't gonna be the EV that saves the planet.

[@drunkenhobo5039]

Where do you people get your numbers from? Do you just make them up for fun? The USA used 13.68 exajoules of electricity in 2020. It used 19.23 exajoules of petrol (gasoline) in 2020 and 7.83 exajoules of diesel. So that 27.07 EJ of fuel is less than double the electricity consumption. And you would only need about a quarter of that to power EVs, as they're 3-4 times as efficient as ICE cars. So the grid would need maybe 50-75% more energy - 8-12 times less than your claim. And then considering a lot of energy would be used at night to charge cars, you'd need even less as this is energy that is usually just wasted as it's not needed for industry through the day. Electric cars can even help with grid balancing! And the thing is, much, much smaller countries like Denmark manage to produce over 100% of their energy needs from renewables. So it can be done, it's just that the USA is massively behind in technology so just pretends it can't be done. You have vast resources of wind, solar and hydro but have been conned by oil executives into thinking it can't be done, as your country slips further and further behind the leaders in technology.