Tether Cars (Speedmodellautos) - European Championship 2004

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@Games_to_be_played
@Games_to_be_played 4 жыл бұрын
New Impressions from 02.102020 (Free Practise) kzbin.info/www/bejne/annUeISqbcR7itE kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4TUdGuOaKt1gKc
@haljohnson6947
@haljohnson6947 5 жыл бұрын
the last lap of the race should involve a cutting of the wire and a ramp that points towards the sky
@larrytemen4789
@larrytemen4789 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think launching a toy car through an alien planet like a scud missile in another galaxy would be a very good idea 😂
@colemanbinyon7063
@colemanbinyon7063 4 жыл бұрын
I would watch that
@michaeltaylor8835
@michaeltaylor8835 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@trainliker100
@trainliker100 4 жыл бұрын
Gravity would still win. That stuff is everywhere.
@clinthymes5982
@clinthymes5982 7 жыл бұрын
And now I have to look up tether car crashes
@joshboyfuture9698
@joshboyfuture9698 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@turbogav8674
@turbogav8674 4 жыл бұрын
One of those simple ideas that makes you think, why didn't I think of that.
@MarkLada
@MarkLada 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people have gotten their legs cut off by the cable?
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know this was a thing. An impressive thing at that. Humans... we're an odd bunch.
@undercoverdivers
@undercoverdivers 4 жыл бұрын
Swiss.............
@ICGedye
@ICGedye 4 жыл бұрын
Iva whoppa coz we can ;)
@sadkingbilly
@sadkingbilly 4 жыл бұрын
Look up “dynamic soaring speed record” for some serious speed... Without motor.
@ereder1476
@ereder1476 4 жыл бұрын
just make the middle thing spin faster and it will go faster
@sadkingbilly
@sadkingbilly 4 жыл бұрын
Ereder no it won’t. You can’t force a drive system (either electric or gas) over the maximum RPM by forcing it to move faster. All you will do is destroy it eventually. And it still won’t move faster.
@ADRIAAN1007
@ADRIAAN1007 4 жыл бұрын
The car sounds so sad when it slows down
@egte5
@egte5 4 жыл бұрын
It's the weekend in audio form. Friday last 5 minutes of work is the beginning and Sunday night into all Monday is the part where it starts to slow.
@overlycreative1
@overlycreative1 4 жыл бұрын
In the 50s my dad had a few cars, one got loose and beelineed right at an unfortunate stray dog. The wire arm cleanly sliced off one of its paws, My dad folded up quickly and took the dog to a Vet. We adopted him and he lived about another ten years. His name was lucky as, on two counts, 1. Lucky he didn't get killed and 2. Lucky he had a family now with 4 boys who loved the heck out of him. He still ran faster than any of us. The fence is a good idea
@winningsmile4504
@winningsmile4504 4 жыл бұрын
nice
@broadcastyoselffool
@broadcastyoselffool 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't lucky that your dad cut his paw off
@duellingscarguevara
@duellingscarguevara Жыл бұрын
Crow said “fark”
@jtcorey7681
@jtcorey7681 4 жыл бұрын
Finally something I have never heard of or seen before. Thank you KZbin algorithm.
@Diversensato
@Diversensato 3 жыл бұрын
*algorithm
@jtcorey7681
@jtcorey7681 3 жыл бұрын
@@Diversensato thanks for that. :)
@Grimmsha72
@Grimmsha72 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a battle between little miniature air raid sirens on crack. Cool little buggers.
@alexchubbymclynn6060
@alexchubbymclynn6060 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand this type of hobby but the machines are so neatly tailored that it brings me to a strong desire to express my deepest respect to all the modellers in that very field of hobby! It is so damn impressive and interesting!))) This cars are a brilliant piece of machinery, a real hand made wonder! Thanks for sharing! Good luck in such amazing hobby!
@weaponisedpotato7352
@weaponisedpotato7352 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine living within earshot of that. You'd want to top yourself
@Wolfdings
@Wolfdings 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought first! Poor neighbours...
@thomaskruse8298
@thomaskruse8298 4 жыл бұрын
Ich hab gar nicht gewusst das es dieses Hobby immer noch gibt.Das letzte mal hab ich das vor ca.30 Jahren auf der Intermodellbau in Dortmund gesehen.Und wer es nicht glaubt wie Laut die Teile sind,der sollte sich das Video mal mit Kopfhörer und voller Lautstärke anschauen.Da bekommt er einen ersten Eindruck von.
@panther105
@panther105 9 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! I'm a model plane guy.I had no idea they still did this. Thanks for uploading..!!!
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
Model planes do it too... 🤷🏻
@panther105
@panther105 Жыл бұрын
@@davelowets I was more into c/l combat and team racing. C/L speed was a whole other crazy area..
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn 7 жыл бұрын
I have an antique tether car that my great uncle built just after WWII and raced in a park in Oak Cliff (Dallas). The car originally had a spark ignition engine and a shutoff switch actuated by a wire extended from the top of the car. If the run was not up to snuff, the owner could hold a rag above the track and trip the switch to shut down the car. It was later converted to glow plug ignition, which meant that there was no shutting it off until the fuel ran out. I was a preschooler at the time, but I remember watching the races and savoring the smell of burning castor oil. The race club disbanded after somebody who was probably unhappy with the noise broke up the expensive concrete track.
@Games_to_be_played
@Games_to_be_played 4 жыл бұрын
There will be free practice on October 2nd, 2020. I'll go and take some new impressions. Meanwhile I also have better cameras :-)
@sharkmusic9636
@sharkmusic9636 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, watching this in 2020 :)
@ginoboss657
@ginoboss657 4 жыл бұрын
This is a random youtube recommendation i can appreciate.
@alerey4363
@alerey4363 4 жыл бұрын
we cant see anything because of the speed, can u take some slow motion footage at least when the car is doing 100km/h or so?
@FernandoMorales-ee1uk
@FernandoMorales-ee1uk 4 жыл бұрын
Ultra speed cameras please
@bf6159
@bf6159 4 жыл бұрын
What distance do they travel before reaching maximum speed?
@bfarm44
@bfarm44 4 жыл бұрын
We just had cars that had different cam gears that would drive them around in patterns and tether planes, lots of fun
@jasonvoorhees895
@jasonvoorhees895 4 жыл бұрын
I remember my dad having an airplane on a tether with a gas powered motor when I was a little kid in the 70's, probably before R/C was mass marketed. But I had no idea that tether cars even existed. Looks pretty fun
@jasonborne5359
@jasonborne5359 9 жыл бұрын
is anyone else curious what would happen if that dude fell off that pole in the middle? I feel like that would be real bad
@Jatmundar
@Jatmundar 8 жыл бұрын
+Jason Borne It wouldn't be fun without some element of danger :)
@jasonborne5359
@jasonborne5359 8 жыл бұрын
Jatmundar true... I just can't help but think, with as many years as this has been going on that someone hasn't fallen and some serious shit went down lol
@Jatmundar
@Jatmundar 8 жыл бұрын
+Jason Borne I see what you are saying, haha! Murphy's Law is a real thing and people are always finding different and interesting ways of injuring or killing themselves. Maybe there is a story about someone getting injured while doing this in an old paper somewhere?
@jasonborne5359
@jasonborne5359 8 жыл бұрын
Jatmundar there has to be lol
@brettcheeseman1154
@brettcheeseman1154 8 жыл бұрын
he would look like sliced bread.
@claystone7729
@claystone7729 4 жыл бұрын
1st time I have ever seen such a thing.....Interesting and another good reason to bring family and friends together. Looks like a fun time.
@copee2960
@copee2960 4 жыл бұрын
Grandfather used to have friend who built boats that were raced on a wire..Thanks for the upload love from the UK.
@silentseawolf
@silentseawolf 8 жыл бұрын
its like land speed records for R/C.... amazing. oh yeah, don't trip or your gonna be tied up in like 6 seconds... then impaled.
@Rocketman88002
@Rocketman88002 4 жыл бұрын
That's crazy fast!!! I remember the model airplanes we flew before R.C. days. Nice leisurely flying planes in many scale sizes. Then came radio control. That's when things got interesting. Planes out of range and some in range skidding the rooftops of nearby residents. The flyers occasionally lost a plane to an irate home owner.
@patrickvanrinsvelt4466
@patrickvanrinsvelt4466 Жыл бұрын
PT-19 with an .049 engine? That was my first plane and I was hooked.
@frontcentermusician
@frontcentermusician 4 жыл бұрын
So you have to pet it to get it to start?
@Svengrustaben
@Svengrustaben 4 жыл бұрын
RichB nice
@ryobi-onekenobi1788
@ryobi-onekenobi1788 4 жыл бұрын
@RichB Thanks for the tip! And you have a lovely home.
@MrAgyhasadt
@MrAgyhasadt 4 жыл бұрын
I saw at 1986 in Hungary this type of race. Tax for uploading.
@kriswelsh3844
@kriswelsh3844 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t know why this is on my feed, had no idea that this was a thing, but wish it was a thing when I was growing up. Class!
@lmw289
@lmw289 4 жыл бұрын
The second car did about 167 mph around the track! Holy crap!!! 😁
@wingnutzster
@wingnutzster 4 жыл бұрын
I was introduced to this sport as a kid, we never had any formal racing or circuits in South Africa but strangely there were cars on the second hand markets and I got my hands on a gorgeous bluebird that we set up to run on a concrete slab near a mall, was less organized and successful than this but still a bunch of fun.
@gibbyrock6648
@gibbyrock6648 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew they had this kind of racing amazing fast cars
@jackfrost2146
@jackfrost2146 4 жыл бұрын
It was happening in Australia 60 years ago, and also done with boats. This is the first I've seen since then!
@cluelessbeekeeping1322
@cluelessbeekeeping1322 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know 'this' existed. Those suckers sure are fast!
@Slash1066
@Slash1066 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy and quite bizarre, imagine the g forces there
@charlesshreeve319
@charlesshreeve319 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I'm wondering; how many g's are these things experiencing, is there much (any?) tension on that tether cord? Those wheels and axles must be pretty stout! (Let's see, 20mm or so radius wheel spinning along the ground at 270 kph.....) (Must be unobtainium!) Also, pretty damn fine precision job of getting that track perfectly smooth and circular! I can (kind of) imagine what the SLIGHTEST ripple would do to one of those test runs (don't think the chain link fence would stop the shrapnel!)
@wjld
@wjld 4 жыл бұрын
@@charlesshreeve319 . Well, formula 1 drivers when turning at 300 kph+ experience up to 5 g. I can't really do the math for this specific case, though.
@velvetrosang4684
@velvetrosang4684 4 жыл бұрын
From what I've heard, the Gs can go up to 8 with these things. The pressure on the tether can go up to 530 pounds when they do 250kph+
@GrandMerc89
@GrandMerc89 4 жыл бұрын
For the really insane motorsports Europe is the place. Tractor pullers powered by tugboat engines, hill climbers in Iceland that drive across water, rally driving on ice, and this.
@PabloGonzalez-hv3td
@PabloGonzalez-hv3td 4 жыл бұрын
Tether cars are worldwide been around for decades
@mungomidge1090
@mungomidge1090 4 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a 200mph cheese wire!
@tomshiba51
@tomshiba51 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice the "stop it" broom until he began to lower it. They've thought of everything.
@herbienbrian2
@herbienbrian2 8 жыл бұрын
Wow the speed is incredible.
@remkojerphanion4686
@remkojerphanion4686 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen this in my life, crazy fast!
@chrissmith7669
@chrissmith7669 3 ай бұрын
The tension in that wire must be insane
@dragonmeddler2152
@dragonmeddler2152 4 жыл бұрын
Also, track construction must be done perfectly I would think. Couldn't have any surface variations at that speed.
@yourfullofsheite
@yourfullofsheite 7 жыл бұрын
Man falls from podium wrapped up like spiderman villain hit between eyes by pointy car going 200.
@haljohnson6947
@haljohnson6947 5 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahaha
@CarLoverPhotography
@CarLoverPhotography 4 жыл бұрын
At first i was like why is there a fence for a tiny car thats dumb but then i saw how fast
@charlesshreeve319
@charlesshreeve319 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but how much of the shrapnel is that chain link fence going to stop if one of those babies disintegrates?
@CarLoverPhotography
@CarLoverPhotography 4 жыл бұрын
True
@guerrillaradio9953
@guerrillaradio9953 7 жыл бұрын
My dad had one from the 1950’s when I was a boy and we would run it in a parking lot. His wasn’t as fast as these, but it was still a lot of fun!
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 4 жыл бұрын
GuerrillaRadio what was it tethered to?
@guerrillaradio9953
@guerrillaradio9953 4 жыл бұрын
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again A 45lb barbell with a piece of iron pipe in it.
@andreluizsantosbernardinod4060
@andreluizsantosbernardinod4060 2 жыл бұрын
😱Wow! So fast, i just can't see!
@nigelcarren
@nigelcarren 4 жыл бұрын
This would be the most dangerous way of making Coleslaw! (If only someone had the courage to lean over with a carrot!)🏆
@christopherpoucher483
@christopherpoucher483 7 жыл бұрын
damn thing so fast time sounds like a burglar alarm
@carlmitchell9958
@carlmitchell9958 6 жыл бұрын
Great to see this, all sorts of interests for creative men. Enjoy yourselves .
@southfloridaarcheryguy114
@southfloridaarcheryguy114 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish I lived next door to this place!!
@markgiles8527
@markgiles8527 4 жыл бұрын
New Flash! If that small car brakes free from it's tether, that fence isn't stopping anything. LOL But sit behind it if it makes you feel safe.
@marceldewit8159
@marceldewit8159 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a really fun hobby
@KevinMcIntyreinSPACE
@KevinMcIntyreinSPACE 4 жыл бұрын
That is just waiting to be turned into a scifi sound effect or remixed into the next techno chart topper.
@8bitbonsai
@8bitbonsai 4 жыл бұрын
this is a strange hobby, you cant drive the car, you cant see the car, you only can hear it and watch the needle how fast it goes.
@theofficialdiamondlou2418
@theofficialdiamondlou2418 4 жыл бұрын
I had an original Cox die cast that I sold a few years ago. To a collector. Still had original black paint.
@mylesjarvis7571
@mylesjarvis7571 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I used to have a Testors VW big tether car......it was nothing like this lol. Very cool!
@fully_retractable
@fully_retractable 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, tha crash barrier, and chain link fence will protect you little buddy.
@aldifarri
@aldifarri 4 жыл бұрын
Ngweo ngweo ngweo ngweo ngweo
@leonydasdice
@leonydasdice 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever ever ever ever ever ever ever
@3000gtwelder
@3000gtwelder 7 жыл бұрын
And I thought Nascar was boring haha!
@drumminsonlive9199
@drumminsonlive9199 4 жыл бұрын
That is a lot better than the big atom smasher...
@azzazz4549
@azzazz4549 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the guy fell from that stand. Final destination time
@hamzterix
@hamzterix 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the fuselage are designed for a straight line speed. At 270 MPH every shape matter. I think it should be curved accordingly.
@xavierolle
@xavierolle 4 жыл бұрын
Man the sound is fucking insane!
@digschopper9321
@digschopper9321 4 жыл бұрын
This was popular in the 50-60's. Never to this level.
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a video from Britain in the 1950s and the man had one doing 250kph/ 155mph
@gfr1980
@gfr1980 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but one question: How do the vehicles accelerate? Will a carburetor slider (possibly be used automatically) be operated or revving without throttle suction? Thanks in advance :)
@AndBeefOre
@AndBeefOre Жыл бұрын
Theres no gearbox in it, these cars start at max gear, the guy in the middle helps it to get to semi optimal speed after which fine tuning of everything involved does the trick
@nigel900
@nigel900 3 ай бұрын
Imagine working 3rd shift and having to live next door to this place…
@marineboy6033
@marineboy6033 4 жыл бұрын
I read about this model sport about 45 years ago and thought this is really old tech.....
@MichaelEdelman1954
@MichaelEdelman1954 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea these were still around. I had a Cox prop powered tether car and a Cox GT with one driven wheel.
@arealassassin
@arealassassin 4 жыл бұрын
just found my new ringtone!!
@MrKarmapolice97
@MrKarmapolice97 5 жыл бұрын
I never knew this existed it’s so neat
@Chance-ry1hq
@Chance-ry1hq 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome camera skills.👍🏼
@Games_to_be_played
@Games_to_be_played 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you said it, they are Oscar worthy :-)
@Sickofsociety1
@Sickofsociety1 7 жыл бұрын
Ooooo....yeah, nothing could be more exciting than sitting beside a circle listening to that all day
@stwhite5135
@stwhite5135 7 жыл бұрын
I think the competition is in building the cars and trying to have yours get to the highest top speed. It's really not a spectator sport.
@Sickofsociety1
@Sickofsociety1 7 жыл бұрын
St White Yeah don't get me wrong, it's all good and I'm sure the people that run the cars have fun and that's all that matters. I was just thinking of listening to it.
@exotictorquerc8797
@exotictorquerc8797 7 жыл бұрын
No worries about cutting the grass
@rickdavis3593
@rickdavis3593 4 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not Millennials, a lot of things happened before the day you were born.
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 4 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@rickdavis3593
@rickdavis3593 4 жыл бұрын
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again It might as well be OK with you.
@gerry343
@gerry343 7 жыл бұрын
This is about as interesting as Formula 1.
@woulfman9693
@woulfman9693 6 жыл бұрын
DaToNyOyO not anymore though
@feellucky271
@feellucky271 4 жыл бұрын
How fast does it go? YES
@AZsmoothrider
@AZsmoothrider 4 жыл бұрын
Tethered planes in my day..more fun (and they crash when you get too dizzy)
@hughtenhove867
@hughtenhove867 4 жыл бұрын
My grandpa used to make these. I actually have one of them hanging up in my room. A German Stuka
@Emiliocab47
@Emiliocab47 4 жыл бұрын
I think the entertainment value would be even greater if the guy at the center would be required to hold the tether line, sort of like someone flying a control line aircraft
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 7 жыл бұрын
I never sewn these before. after the first one got going it sounded like an alarm sounding. these are amazing . I want one to ride in!!!! crazy, what's next.
@dragonmeddler2152
@dragonmeddler2152 4 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful and insane sport! Have to find out what goes into building one of these cars.
@carlosposada4248
@carlosposada4248 7 жыл бұрын
What do you do for a living? Me- I race...
@wildweedle6012
@wildweedle6012 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to get into this hobby, but the nearest track is 5 hours away on Long Island.
@PeterDunkelBestofRcMODELVIDS
@PeterDunkelBestofRcMODELVIDS 9 жыл бұрын
ein paar tropfen nitroglyzerin rein und der geht auf 999kmh
@Games_to_be_played
@Games_to_be_played 9 жыл бұрын
hehe, Ja dann aber richtung Mond...
@PeterDunkelBestofRcMODELVIDS
@PeterDunkelBestofRcMODELVIDS 9 жыл бұрын
RC Fun - M.Casagrande nei nich doch der soll die 2 gotthardröhre durchschlagen #
@wernerschulte6245
@wernerschulte6245 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the propeller driven car with radial engine on the title picture ? - not seen ! Disappointed :(
@vatanenj
@vatanenj 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of stupid comments down below... My record: 10cc 324 km/h, 5cc 285km/h
@feellucky271
@feellucky271 4 жыл бұрын
As compared to the 5 and 10 cc world records? I race nitro boats and own a former world champion from '86.So what? Lots of people ask questions but I'd never insult them by calling them stupid as it does nothing to improve the sport or their interest. Your records mean something only to you as you were to stupid to add other record info. Bravo for your ego.
@ronniewall1481
@ronniewall1481 4 жыл бұрын
Are there rules
@clayz1
@clayz1 4 жыл бұрын
gator 8 . I agree with Raddaddy. There are a lot of stupid comments below.
@TheBlister69
@TheBlister69 4 жыл бұрын
They're just comments, man. Relax. Not everyone is a pro tether boy. Like you. 🤣
@mrfingers4737
@mrfingers4737 4 жыл бұрын
Most people are stupid.
@JJ-kp9zq
@JJ-kp9zq 4 жыл бұрын
Speed of the car is wonderful, however they should change it it a jump rope competition. After every heat the operator moves 2 foot closer to the center. Last to get tied up wins.
@HooRideHooBang
@HooRideHooBang 4 жыл бұрын
Switzerland
@cesarango01
@cesarango01 4 жыл бұрын
So, what is the fun? The wheels on the bus go round and round?
@almiradelshin6415
@almiradelshin6415 4 жыл бұрын
Remember from my schoolboy days hobby, if that car maded right and adjusted well, after 200 km speed, that increases speed only by right made muffler as a rocket engine, not by wheels
@1979augistine
@1979augistine 4 жыл бұрын
Oh look Nascar
@iamrocketray
@iamrocketray 4 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of a speed engine coming on song, it seems to affect my Adrenalin flow. Although i admit i prefer speed racing C/L model planes
@Workdove
@Workdove 4 жыл бұрын
This is a Mandela effect. This 'sport' just appeared out of the twilight zone into my reality this week. Bizarre.
@jaxxbrat2634
@jaxxbrat2634 7 жыл бұрын
Secret design we cant look?.. Dang quick..
@KrustyKlown
@KrustyKlown 7 ай бұрын
10:37 a BROOM??... a broom is used to knock the fuel switch down, shutting off the fuel to the engine
@ekitschinkatscheka6789
@ekitschinkatscheka6789 4 жыл бұрын
Scary to realize there are people overtaking you with that speed on the Autobahn..
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 4 жыл бұрын
can we take the dam thing apart already ?
@mikeburch2998
@mikeburch2998 4 жыл бұрын
If the pilot falls off the platform he will get wrapped in cable faster than he could say "oh fuck" :-)
@azmike1956
@azmike1956 4 жыл бұрын
I had a pair of 1/24 scale Corvettes with Cox engines that would run on a center post. Sometimes they come loose!!
@farginicehole513
@farginicehole513 4 жыл бұрын
Now most Cox drive Audis and BMWs.
@duydinhnguyen6225
@duydinhnguyen6225 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like alarm run out battery 😂
@GrumpyOldMan9
@GrumpyOldMan9 3 жыл бұрын
Watching grass grow is more exciting.
@johnshanks8390
@johnshanks8390 4 жыл бұрын
Some needs to make a supersonic car.
@DonovanBryant92
@DonovanBryant92 7 жыл бұрын
does the car going round and round sound like an alarm to anyone else?
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 4 жыл бұрын
gokartbuilder airraid alarm
@brayanrodriguez1268
@brayanrodriguez1268 4 жыл бұрын
I bet that guy has a mean Karate throat chop.
@louiscypher7090
@louiscypher7090 7 жыл бұрын
Those motors are working double time.
@LCMNUNES1962
@LCMNUNES1962 3 жыл бұрын
FREQUENCE SOUND PISTON PER MINUT
@falz
@falz 3 жыл бұрын
schade das es keinerlei veranstaltungen mehr in der zukunft gibt ausser arbeiten. aber vieleicht haben wir ja glück und die regierung überlegt für uns was, vlt so wie es in china ist. aber ich denke dann gibt es nur noch fussball und das auch nur via glotze :-(
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