Cascais Isn’t Just for the Ultra-Wealthy

[@lisacraig4585]

Lived in Portugal 33 years in the north and retired 4 months ago. Just dawning on me that I don’t have to set an alarm in the morning. Portugal becoming a magnet for retirees is quite a revelation. I would never have foreseen this when I arrived or Porto evolving into a premier tourist destination. Planning my escape into the interior. Hope you find all you’re looking for in Cascais.

[@angelamayknight6125]

Great video.Thanks Kalie. I moved to Cascais almost 3 years ago without visiting Portugal first and I am very happy here. The FB group that Kathy mentioned was a tremendous help but so were your videos, Kalie. Thanks for the D7 course & for responding to my questions about travelling with my 3 cats. They are living the dream and so am I. Congrats to Kathy. I enjoyed the interview & hope she'll be happy in her new apartment. I'll keep an eye out for her & say hello.

[@seanben-safed9802]

Lusitano Dreams: what a great nugget of information to help with the D7 visa housing requirement. I'm going to check to see if they have a Porto presence .

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks for watching. We're glad that you found the interview beneficial. - Josh & Kalie

[@lisacolllins214]

I hope I run into Kathy when I move to Cascais early next year!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

We're sure she's be glad to say hi. - Josh & Kalie

[@lisacolllins214]

@@ExpatsEverywhere thanks!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

@@lisacolllins214 you're welcome.

[@charlesjames4956]

Sounds like a very deliberate and well thought out process. Not the impulsive way that too many approach it.

[@jjoel609]

Very interesting video! I visited there last year, but thought it was too expensive, so this is great to see other options! This area and Sintra are so nice, I am envious! Best of luck with your life in Portugal!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thank you very much. Rent really seems to be the key determining factor as it does seem to be pretty similar to other places in Portugal for other costs such as utilities, groceries, and transportation. The other X factor is how much one would go out to the "fancier" places to eat and drink. - Josh & Kalie

[@entrophyentrophy9562]

I wish I had known about Lusitano Dreams sooner. It’s stressful trying to select a place before you get there! Great information.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Yea, it is. We were right there with you. We had to sign a place site unseen. - Josh & Kalie

[@People_of_the_Mouse]

One of the most helpful ever. Thanks.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the feedback. - Josh & Kalie

[@grizfan93]

Having lived in Portugal for a bit over 2 years now, and spoken with a lot of longer-term expats, I strongly recommend against taking a language class so soon. Moving to a new country is a massive upheaval, and trying to learn a new language while at the same time learning your way about a new country is a recipe for failure. Maybe a short course on the basics, but I would wait a year before making a serious attempt. The Portuguese government offers Portuguese Host Language (PLA) courses for free, with A1/A2 and B1/B2 certification. 150 hours of class time to complete the A1/A2, typically twice weekly, 3 hours per class, for 6 months. Wait until you are actually settled before attempted this. There's a high attrition rate for this courses, and I know a lot of people starting over this month because they attempted too early. We had a similar struggle when we tried shortly after moving. Too many other things going on. Give yourself some time to settle. Learn what you can, but don't set yourself up to fail.

[@MariaMagee]

Can someone provide a link to the "The Portuguese government offers Portuguese Host Language (PLA) courses for free, with A1/A2 and B1/B2 certification"

[@grizfan93]

@@MariaMagee www.acm.gov.pt/-/como-posso-frequentar-um-curso-de-lingua-portuguesa-para-estrangeiros-

[@danielfernandes532]

@@MariaMagee www.acm.gov.pt/-/como-posso-frequentar-um-curso-de-lingua-portuguesa-para-estrangeiros-

[@danielfernandes532]

Hi Maria. You might have to contact them and see if it is free

[@bellaluce7088]

Gosh, I can't imagine denying myself the PLEASURE of connecting with people in their own language that long if I moved somewhere! 🙃😀 Luckily, the way the human brain acquires language means no learning or practice is wasted--it just builds the foundation for retaining more the next time. 🤓 So if we can keep the mindset of enjoying the process instead of being attached to timelines for fluency, taking classes early on can be a GREAT thing! It's a chance to meet others on a similar journey, and practicing basic phrases can make such a difference in any country (from hello and thank you to where's the bathroom, please 😄). Getting familiar with languages via online tutorials, meetups, or simply watching dubbed KZbin videos by native speakers : - ), etc. is also easier than ever. Even just playing a language in the background and trying to match the sounds without knowing what the words mean can help! Personally, I consider it a kindness to mySELF to learn at least a little bit of the language of anywhere I'll be staying a while BEFORE leaving, and this can also be done after arrival from the comfort of one's couch. Starting early 1) helps me feel respectful of other people and cultures, which is important to me (even a few imperfectly spoken phrases help! < : - ); 2) decreases my confusion and anxiety in unfamiliar settings; 3) helps me feel confident faster : - ); 4) increases my enjoyment of the ANTICIPATION of travel or new activities (a big part of the fun!); and 5) practically guarantees more positive experiences and warmer connections with people. 💖 Win-win-win! 😃

[@NunoFerreiraX]

22:54 the wind is actually unusual. This year there's been some windy days that are pretty rare. Also, it's usually hotter during the summer, but this year has been mild.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

You're certainly right, Nuno. We've experience hot summer days in Cascais before and it's no joke. We did love this summer's trip though and thought that the wind was a bit wild at times but there are several cities across Portugal that we've felt more wind than most places we've traveled to. - Josh & Kalie

[@FantasySoldier]

Great interview as always! I enjoy everyone's different perspectives on the process, where they chose, and how its going! Looking forward to the next one!

[@elyseb674]

Cascais was my first crush but it wasn't a match. Porto stole my heart and I'll be a Gaia girl (once I retire from Uncle Sam's Yacht Club). I can't want to visit now that I'm back in the EU.

[@Faben202]

Uncle Sam’s Yacht Club!! 😂 Love it. We really liked Porto, but for some reason we felt more at home in Lisbon. We’re several years away from retirement so there’s time to choose. Good luck with your move!

[@elyseb674]

@@Faben202 grazie! When the borders opened in 2021, I'd leave Rota to explore PT. Closed on a place 2 years ago; renting it out to an American and his Portuguese husband. Said man knows a woman I went to college with. Small world! I'll eventually have my final move to PT, probably after another graduate degree. Gotta keep busy! Cheers! 🫡

[@TNowlan]

Great timing. Visiting Cascais when this video was published. Totally reconning the area for retirement. Lavadores is still close to my heart after the month we stayed in November 2022. We love Portugal as Canadians. Would totally immerse ourselves into the culture and language.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks for sharing! We're very glad that the time has been good for you. :-) - Josh & Kalie

[@Stopit77]

Well done, enjoyed the interview!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thank you! - Josh & Kalie

[@RemofRenaissance]

Hi Guys Thanks for the video. I visited Cascais a few years ago with my wife and loved it. Our dream since then was to live to Portugal but probably to an area a little more affordable. :-) Look forward to watching this (haven’t seen all) and would welcome any advice on those maybe moving post NHR era as sadly that may be us. Who knows maybe see you in Portugal!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

You're very welcome. We would certainly recommend talking to a financial advisor with experience in helping people retire abroad. Kalie could introduce you to John if you'd like. Just email Kalie at [e-mail] for that information and yes, we might see you around! - Josh & Kalie

[@JenShea]

Great interview (as always ) Kaley. Funny, my monthly budget is €500. 😮 I guess I’m used to living on a lot less. I can’t imagine spending €1500/month, after rent. I do like Cascais… but for me it’s more for a short getaway or even just the day (easily doable from Peniche).

[@terrisokolow7796]

Really great interview, Kalie!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thank you, Terri! We appreciate it. - Josh & Kalie

[@GaryPozner]

Great video🙏

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thank you 🙌 - Josh & Kalie

[@wendylmorris3872]

Very good interview, Kalie and Kathy! 😊👍

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thank you, Wendy! - Josh & Kalie

[@sbkpilot1]

$1700 bucks for Portugal for housing is a lot, you can rent a really nice 1 bedroom in a really nice suburb of Dallas for $1400-1500/mo. easily. For $2K/month I could find a 1bd in Southern California. The cost of living in Portugal has really become insane.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

€1,700 is for arguably the most expensive, exclusive, desirable city in Portugal so it's not that all of Portugal has rents at this level. I'm also writing this not to argue but to clarify for others that read our comments here. Take care. - Josh

[@mikepoedtke404]

The €1000 banner is misleading

[@bellaluce7088]

The "only 1,000 euro a month?" clickbait thumbnail on this one hurt. 😟 I appreciate you guys so much and understand why content creators feel they need to use clickbait to increase the chances videos get seen enough to be promoted by KZbin's algorithm. But 1,000 is so far from the 2,700 Kathy actually mentioned as the lower end of the scale (1,000 PLUS 1,700 for rent) that the misleading tagline felt disrespectful of those of us who might have clicked because we have fewer resources. (And 1,000 is a whole different planet(!) from the 3,700 to 5,500 including rent she actually indicated would be the range to do all the things she'd want to do.) *Clickbait is the way of the world now, but I hope you'll avoid bait and switch, especially on sensitive topics.* 💖 P.S. Kathy seems like an interesting and admirably adventurous person, and I wish her well! Thank you, Kathy for sharing your experience! 😃

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Hi Bella, thank you for the comment and watching. We don't believe our thumbnail is clickbait. As you've rightly said, she mentioned €1,000 as an amount that she's able to live on minus rent. Rent is a rather variable thing like other costs of living but with it being such a large cost, removing that could give people a clearer picture of what their expenses could be. For those that have fewer resources, the figure holds insomuch that you could live in another part of Portugal with lower rents for figures closer to €1,000. The "Only €1,000/month?!" is both a question and a shock because we figured that she would have spent more monthly due to our conversation off camera about how much she's able to do lifestyle-wise. Alternatively, the figure of 1k could have been her rent, which could shock people in that it's really high or really low compared to what they're used to and for the city we're talking about. Titles and thumbnails are supposed to create a question, doubt, tension to earn the click. When the click happens, it's our job to deliver the content and make good on why people clicked. When we have the opportunity to make more clickable titles and thumbnails, we'll do it. This was one of those opportunities because if people don't click and watch, the information and hard work that we put into our videos will simply be for nothing. - Josh

[@bellaluce7088]

​@@ExpatsEverywhere Oh Josh, that's all very logical, but sadly doesn't acknowledge what I was trying to convey about how misleading it was to me, and the emotional impact. Maybe YOU guys know that $1,000 *including* rent (or AS rent--the harder to adjust variable) is not even on the table in Cascais, but for someone new to the process of exploring Portugal as a place to move, it was like dangling a treat in front of a child then telling them they can't have it. The world is full of marketing that promises one thing and delivers another, and technically correct isn't always kind or respectful of people's time. I'm just letting you know how this viewer interpreted your thumbnail, and that it resulted in disappointment and wasted time I could have spent watching one of your many *other* great videos, which would have been a win for *both* of us. : - ) I understand that balancing attention-grabbing with accurate content description is a tricky art, but I have confidence in you guys' ability to incorporate the heart of what I'm saying and still drive views because I've seen you do it before! 😃 Thank you for your content that has helped me so much as I consider Portugal as a place to live. 💖

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

@@bellaluce7088 I apologize for getting your hopes up to let you down in the end. Thank you for watching our other content. - Josh

[@bellaluce7088]

@@ExpatsEverywhere Thank you for saying that, Josh. < : - )

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

@@bellaluce7088 You're welcome. Have a great week and we'll see you in the next one. - Josh

[@TheBlueskyson]

Any tax issues for an expat on income stream living in Portugal? I hear now tax is 40-50% of income? Are you seeing this? ty 4 gr8 vid. imma there soon

[@NunoFerreiraX]

Nice interview. Did you manage to visit Quinta do Pisão with the kids and/or Parque Natural de Sintra-Cascais?

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Unfortunately, we didn't because our online Portuguese class hit right in the middle of the day so it didn't make sense for us to go out there but we've got it on the list for next time. - Josh & Kalie

[@missamericausa]

Thank you

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

You're welcome. Thank you for watching. - Josh & Kalie

[@robertlee6479]

What are you doing going out to dinner every night and drinking vino as I live in Portugal and have done for nearly5 years and in a bad month if I need to make repairs it can cost me E400 but my average is less than e300. So what you spend in one month lats me 3 and a tad spare.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

And that's fine, Robert. Enjoy your life and be happy. - Josh & Kalie

[@CJ-Photo]

Never understood the attraction of that city... But I can't afford Portugal at all now as a retiree - no matter how expensive or inexpensive the city is! Too sad.

[@joan5631]

Noooo! It’s 2500-3000$ per month apparently… Spain could be cheaper, and the language is much easier to learn too!

[@alzhang74]

How to find a lawyer?

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Kalie keeps a list of recommended ones if you'd like to email her at [e-mail] - Josh & Kalie

[@zwstyles621]

Not sure what that 2000+ per month involves. It is on the high end for a single person. Also a T3 in Cascais can be had for less than 2000eur per month within 500m of the waterline..

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks for sharing. - Josh & Kalie

[@zwstyles621]

@@ExpatsEverywhere No worries - I don't want to start advertising but a good check is Idealista, Cascais, Bairro do Rosario, T3, sort by price. :-)

[@hopeemmanuel]

Nice video.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks! - Josh & Kalie

[@lynetterosario5697]

I was in Cascais last year and it's surprising to hear that €1,000 a month is doable there! But is that w/o rent? Plus I have a little schnauzer, I've been looking at the Castelo Branco area, it seems to be the cheapest area...I might die of boredom there but at least I'll be in Portugal. I will have to look into " Lucitano Dreams, never heard of it before.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Hey Lynette, she says in the interview that it's without rent in her opinion. :-) Just a spelling correction in case you're going to Google it. It's "Lusitano Dreams". Lusitano has several semantic connections to Portugal and one definition could be simply "Portuguese". Thanks for watching. Have a great week. - Josh & Kalie

[@lynetterosario5697]

@@ExpatsEverywhere OH! Thanx for the spelling correction! LOL

[@SandyAdam]

Needing 2000 plus rent of the 2000 means pretty well off. So i guess shes not "ultra wealthy" and a US person who wants to live off only social security is going to be a stretch?

[@meaco247]

Nobody is taking about taxies , they tax everything you have from State !!!!! If she is from California she has at least a million dollars ?! Not average US citizen !!!!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

We talk a lot about taxes on this channel. If individuals don't want to talk about taxes on camera, that's fine. There's also a lot of caution needed when you hear about someone's taxes because they're personal and if you don't know what their income is and their income sources are and their possible write-offs, you could badly estimate your own personal taxes. It's best to get a proforma done by a tax professional. - Josh & Kalie