Case 326 How to differentiate between shuddering, infantile spasm and west syndrome?

[@dazanthony9198]

Thank you for this video. We had concerns about infantile spasm (2nd Video) with our daughter. We did an EEG and all came back normal thankfully. She is suffering from Infant Shudders (1st Video) it’s nothing to be concerned about and can affect infants from 4months until 1.5-2yrs. Doc says she will grow out of it usually by the time they walk. Infant shudders doesn’t effect their mood. They can continue on playing, smiling, talking immediately after the episode. I never even heard of infant shudders until Doc showed us this actual video today. 2nd Video - Infant Spasm (Neurological) is very serious and effects the child a lot more after the episode. It can really upset them. 3rd Video - West Syndrome. This is the first time I have heard of this. Poor Child 😢

[@markomarko3020]

My son behaves just like 1. video. Thank you for sharing your experience with us🙏

[@kellyw1346]

This video has nothing to tell you the difference in any of these. The title is very misleading.

[@mallikmallik6287]

Hi sir can u please mention which baby is shuddering and wich baby is in spasams

[@anupriyachandrasekaran4722]

Baby in yellow shirt is having seizure west syndrome, second is spasm first s shuddering

[@JohnLawson-e3u]

Cute little babies in this video.

[@LyleTuttle-b6c]

The first 2 babies look like they have seen a ghost. The third baby looks like he as a bad case of hiccups.

[@drhazemfahmy8311]

تسلم استاذنا الغالي... شكرا جزيلا على الأهتمام 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹

[@dr.tageldinaly]

حفظكم الله وسدد خطاكم ونفع بك ورفع قدرك يارب ربنا يجعله في ميزان حسناتكم جميعا دكتور حازم 🤲🤲🙏🌹🌹🙏🤲🤲🤲🤲🙏

[@mucahit5755]

Hello sir. Our son has some movements that worry us. How can we contact you? There are videos we want to show you.

[@Chrissella2006]

Hi, my 1 year old son started doing similar movements like the first baby (fists clenched, tight jaw, surprised face, and a shudder as when you are stretching your body after a long sleep). They have started one week ago (not sure if linked, but a few days before had a big scare with a chair falling next to him) and have not developed much, if anything now it seems they are less frequent/less intense. He is doing this mostly when sitting in his high chair or getting frustrated with something, but there were 1-2 occasions when he did it while we were holding him in our arms or standing up in front of his toys. He doesn't seem affected by this at all, but his shudder face seem very strange, as he is surprised when it happens but goes away just as fast when it stops as if nothing happened. It only lasts 1-2 seconds and happens like 4-5 times a day. In the first two days when this started, he had a few shudders within 20 seconds of each other that also lasted 1-2 seconds each. We have been to a neurologist and recommended an EEG just to be on the safe side, but from what I am reading about shudder syndrome I am reluctant to put ourselves through the risk of hospitalisation during covid times if it's nothing serious. On the other hand, I really don't want to ignore something that would require treatment. My question is... is there any chance for Infantile Spasms to get less in frequency and intensity once they started? I am hopeful for the fact that his shuddering seems to be less frequent and intense than 4 days ago. Thank you!

[@fpsfreak4079]

I'm curious did you find your answer?

[@amandal6819]

How old is your baby, if it is shuddering then it is likely to resolve when he is over a year old, we were very worried when we first notice my boy's abnormal movement but lucky I video it and can show it to doctors, we were so relieved when we were told it is shuddering as it will and has resolved. So don't worry too much, just keep an eye on him and hopefully it will reduce in frequency.

[@scurrrvy]

Yes, I’m curious as well. Did you find your answer as my daughter is doing something similar.

[@Chrissella2006]

He started doing it around 12 months actually, but now they are happening very seldom. He actually only does it when angry/frustrated and it happens maybe once or twice a week, no particular pattern or frequency. Seems to be more often when he is teething. We eventually skipped on going to a second neurologist visit, as in the first one they recommended the extra procedures only for our own peace of mind, as they were also suspecting shudder sindrome

[@sonchkaable]

Hello, did you find any solution? Did it disappear? My daughter does exactly the same. We are waiting for a EEG

[@saranabi577]

دكتورنا الفاضل الطفل الاول حركته طبيعية اقصد هو الارتجاف الحميد أم لا ؟

[@dr.tageldinaly]

نعم دكتورة سارة You are totally right 🌹🤲🙏🙏🙏🙏🤲🌹

[@dr.tageldinaly]

@@saranabi577 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYuZY5ajrrWmn5o ،هدا فيديو تجميعه كل أنواع Abnormal movements بإذن الله تعالى يكون مفيد وبسيط حفظكم الله وسدد خطاكم ونفع بك ورفع قدرك يارب ربنا يجعله في ميزان حسناتكم جميعا دكتورة سارة 🙏🤲🤲🌹🌹🌹🌹🤲🙏🙏

[@dumbty344]

Hi how is ur baby doing now? My baby is 16 months and he did it after a long nap today so m very much worried as a first.time mother. Please reply

[@shrishtisingh3933]

How old is your baby?

[@bratmari]

Vaccines

[@deeptirawat6160]

Hy dear

[@deeptirawat6160]

How is your baby now

[@dumbty344]

My toddler is diagnosed with autism.. it was a sign of stimming which autistic kids tend to do. We r working on him with speech and OT and he is better now.

[@shoumiks9882]

Dear Dr Ali, does the EEG of child who suffered from shuttering show abnormality. My 9 month old does this and I am worried. Please do reply. Regards

[@anshulsingh7006]

Sometimes it does..sometimes doesn't

[@bratmari]

Can be caused by metals in the vaccines

[@nataliastarzec1038]

Good Morning. Does the second child movment is normal???My Child starts making the movment like this. EEG ( 3 times) is ok. Thank you

[@chescoriossalas2744]

Parece ser más síndrome de West

[@sshete4891]

Ab kaisa hai aapka baby.

[@shafiqyahaya4709]

hi Dr. does the first baby movement normal?

[@dr.tageldinaly]

Shuddering attacks are recognized as an uncommon benign disorder occurring during infancy or early childhood. It consists of rapid shivering of the head, shoulder, and occasionally the trunk. These types of shudders usually stop within a few years. 🤲🤲🤲🌹🌹🙏🙏🌹 What Are Infantile Spasms? Infantile spasms (IS) is a seizure disorder in babies. The seizures (or spasms) make muscles in the arms and legs stiff and bend the baby's head forward. They look very much like a startle. Babies also might have slowed development or loss of skills (like babbling, sitting, or crawling). Although the spasms usually go away by the time a child is 4 years old, many babies with IS will have other kinds of epilepsy later in life. What Do Infantile Spasms Look Like? Spasms start suddenly and last a second or two. They often come one after another in a cluster that lasts several minutes. They happen most often just after waking. They're often mistaken for colic, reflux, or hiccupping. A baby having a spasm might have: the head bent forward with arms flung out and the knees pulled into the body (described as "jackknife") the head bent back with the arms and legs straightened small movements in the neck or other parts of the body What Causes Infantile Spasms? Infantile spasms (also called West syndrome) can be caused by brain malformations, infections, brain injury, or abnormal blood vessels in the brain. IS also can happen in babies with certain metabolic and genetic disorders. In rare cases, a baby's infantile spasms are caused by vitamin B6 deficiency. Sometimes, the cause isn't known. However, more and more gene mutations are being linked to infantile spasms. How Are Infantile Spasms Diagnosed? Infantile spasms are diagnosed by a pediatric neurologist (a doctor who specializes in brain, spine and nervous system problems). Testing may include: blood tests and urine tests (to look for infections or illnesses) EEG, or electroencephalography (to see brain waves/electrical activity in the brain). A particular EEG finding called "hypsarrhythmia" often confirms the diagnosis, but not every child with infantile spasms will have this. VEEG, or video electroencephalography (EEG with video recording) CAT scan, MRI, and PET/MRI scans to look inside the brain How Are Infantile Spasms Treated? Infantile spasms usually are treated with seizure medicines or steroids. If medicines don't control the spasms, a special diet, such as the ketogenic diet, might help. Sometimes, doctors may recommend surgery. ومن أحياها فكأنما أحيا الناس جميعا 🤲🤲🙏🌹🌹🙏🤲🤲

[@sshete4891]

@Kashaf Naz seizure kaise bnd hogye baby ke

[@halahaladawy482]

انا ابني بيعمل الحركه اللي بيعملها اول طفل بيعملها نادرا بس مكنتش متاكدة هوا بيلعب ولا ايه، هوا عمره سنه و عشر شهور بس الحمدلله بيمشي و يجري و يتكلم طبيعي ماشاء الله، محتاج كشف ولا ده طبيعي؟

[@rohitmahoday138]

Dear congratulations is your child infantil spams Dignos

[@هندهند-ظ9ص]

سلام اختي انا ابني نفس الشي هل ابنك لسه فيها ها الحركه ولا راحت بليز ردي عليا

[@عاشقةالصمت-ك8ك]

مرحبا خواتي انا ابني عندو هي الحركه عمرو سنة وشهرين ومابعرف شو يعني هي خطيرة ولا لا يارب حدا يرد علي متل الولد اول الفيديو

[@mohammedeid3418]

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[@dr.tageldinaly]

حفظكم الله وسدد خطاكم ونفع بك ورفع قدرك يارب ربنا يجعله في ميزان حسناتكم دكتور محمد 🌹🌹🤲🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹

[@mohammedeid3418]

@@dr.tageldinaly ربنا يبارك في علم حضرتك و يجعله في ميزان حسناتكم(علم ينتفع به) فيديوهاتك بنتظرها دايما و كالعادة to the point👌👌

[@dr.tageldinaly]

@@mohammedeid3418 بل أنتم لكم الفضل والأجر باذن الله ربنا يجعله في ميزان حسناتكم جميعا دكتور محمد 🌹🌹🤲🤲🙏🙏🙏🤲🌹🌹🌹

[@maureenbryan3465]

Can this kill infants

[@bratmari]

It's neurological. Usually caused by toxic overload. Their most likely exposure is vaccines. Or mother's milk or formula. Or the drugs mom had in pregnancy or in hospital. They're not honest about this.

[@adham45736]

ايه القرف بينهم استاذي ؟

[@dr.tageldinaly]

Shuddering attacks are recognized as an uncommon benign disorder occurring during infancy or early childhood. It consists of rapid shivering of the head, shoulder, and occasionally the trunk. These types of shudders usually stop within a few years. 🤲🤲🤲🌹🌹🙏🙏🌹 What Are Infantile Spasms? Infantile spasms (IS) is a seizure disorder in babies. The seizures (or spasms) make muscles in the arms and legs stiff and bend the baby's head forward. They look very much like a startle. Babies also might have slowed development or loss of skills (like babbling, sitting, or crawling). Although the spasms usually go away by the time a child is 4 years old, many babies with IS will have other kinds of epilepsy later in life. What Do Infantile Spasms Look Like? Spasms start suddenly and last a second or two. They often come one after another in a cluster that lasts several minutes. They happen most often just after waking. They're often mistaken for colic, reflux, or hiccupping. A baby having a spasm might have: the head bent forward with arms flung out and the knees pulled into the body (described as "jackknife") the head bent back with the arms and legs straightened small movements in the neck or other parts of the body What Causes Infantile Spasms? Infantile spasms (also called West syndrome) can be caused by brain malformations, infections, brain injury, or abnormal blood vessels in the brain. IS also can happen in babies with certain metabolic and genetic disorders. In rare cases, a baby's infantile spasms are caused by vitamin B6 deficiency. Sometimes, the cause isn't known. However, more and more gene mutations are being linked to infantile spasms. How Are Infantile Spasms Diagnosed? Infantile spasms are diagnosed by a pediatric neurologist (a doctor who specializes in brain, spine and nervous system problems). Testing may include: blood tests and urine tests (to look for infections or illnesses) EEG, or electroencephalography (to see brain waves/electrical activity in the brain). A particular EEG finding called "hypsarrhythmia" often confirms the diagnosis, but not every child with infantile spasms will have this. VEEG, or video electroencephalography (EEG with video recording) CAT scan, MRI, and PET/MRI scans to look inside the brain How Are Infantile Spasms Treated? Infantile spasms usually are treated with seizure medicines or steroids. If medicines don't control the spasms, a special diet, such as the ketogenic diet, might help. Sometimes, doctors may recommend surgery. ومن أحياها فكأنما أحيا الناس جميعا 🤲🤲🙏🌹🌹🙏🤲🤲

[@rohitmahoday138]

@@dr.tageldinaly dear doctor pleas help if IS diagnosed early and treatment successful and MRI is normal . Then life would be normal are not

[@dr.tageldinaly]

@@rohitmahoday138 Shuddering attacks are recognized as an uncommon benign disorder occurring during infancy or early childhood. It consists of rapid shivering of the head, shoulder, and occasionally the trunk. These types of shudders usually stop within a few years. 🤲🤲🤲🌹🌹🙏🙏🌹 What Are Infantile Spasms? Infantile spasms (IS) is a seizure disorder in babies. The seizures (or spasms) make muscles in the arms and legs stiff and bend the baby's head forward. They look very much like a startle. Babies also might have slowed development or loss of skills (like babbling, sitting, or crawling). Although the spasms usually go away by the time a child is 4 years old, many babies with IS will have other kinds of epilepsy later in life. What Do Infantile Spasms Look Like? Spasms start suddenly and last a second or two. They often come one after another in a cluster that lasts several minutes. They happen most often just after waking. They're often mistaken for colic, reflux, or hiccupping. A baby having a spasm might have: the head bent forward with arms flung out and the knees pulled into the body (described as "jackknife") the head bent back with the arms and legs straightened small movements in the neck or other parts of the body What Causes Infantile Spasms? Infantile spasms (also called West syndrome) can be caused by brain malformations, infections, brain injury, or abnormal blood vessels in the brain. IS also can happen in babies with certain metabolic and genetic disorders. In rare cases, a baby's infantile spasms are caused by vitamin B6 deficiency. Sometimes, the cause isn't known. However, more and more gene mutations are being linked to infantile spasms. How Are Infantile Spasms Diagnosed? Infantile spasms are diagnosed by a pediatric neurologist (a doctor who specializes in brain, spine and nervous system problems). Testing may include: blood tests and urine tests (to look for infections or illnesses) EEG, or electroencephalography (to see brain waves/electrical activity in the brain). A particular EEG finding called "hypsarrhythmia" often confirms the diagnosis, but not every child with infantile spasms will have this. VEEG, or video electroencephalography (EEG with video recording) CAT scan, MRI, and PET/MRI scans to look inside the brain How Are Infantile Spasms Treated? Infantile spasms usually are treated with seizure medicines or steroids. If medicines don't control the spasms, a special diet, such as the ketogenic diet, might help. Sometimes, doctors may recommend surgery. ومن أحياها فكأنما أحيا الناس جميعا 🤲🤲🙏🌹🌹🙏🤲🤲

[@rohitmahoday138]

@@dr.tageldinaly dear. Docter pleas contect are watup number

[@Idasjoo]

​@@dr.tageldinalymy baby have spasm/cramp like jaw movement where the jaw is pressed down involuntary as the first baby. Please answer a worried mother of this is tics? We done an eeg that was normal but she didnt get any spasm/cramp like episodes then