Case 52: Mary & Beth Stauffer, Jason Wilkman

DESCRIPTION
Two witnesses saw the male acting suspicious in the car park, hiding in the ditch. He didn’t seem right. What was he doing?
But Mary didn’t see the male. Not until it was too late…
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Narration - Anonymous Host
Research and writing - Victoria Dieffenbacher
Production, scoring - Mike Migas
Additional scoring - Andrew Joslyn
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[@everyusernameistakenomfg]

Irving's voice when he got the father's day call from beth made me want to cry, he sounds so distressed but trying to keep it together for her sake.

[@roonilwazlib3089]

No “I love you” tho 😖

[@scottcantdance804]

@@roonilwazlib3089 and I'm sure he realized that after the call and kicked himself over and over and over until he was able to tell her in person

[@chrissiestevens1001]

Jason’s mothers account of discovering her boy stolen sent shivers down my spine. Her description of her fear was so transparent even through your voice. It made me thankful that that fear every parent has of their child becoming missing never happened to me. Your podcasts are always well done, this one was gripping. I felt all the emotions

[@louiseholland6937]

Ok8ooi iiiooo8oi8k

[@jenford7078]

The quality of the broadcast never fais to impress me.

[@emmagatewood3898]

62 stitches on her face?! I'm blown away that he was able to attack her so viciously, in a packed courtroom, in broad daylight, surrounded by armed guards and law enforcement. How was he able to smuggle in a weapon? How was he not properly searched before coming into court?? How wasn't he immediately tackled and subdued by the security guards??? The state completely failed at their duty in protecting Mary that day.

[@lorrainefryer]

🙏. My thoughts exactly. He should have been rolled in and out like Hannibal Lecter after that. But where was a body check? I’m still disgusted by this.

[@SellswordArts]

How the hell do you mess up bad enough to let this guy get a weapon into court. And then on top of that let him run across the entire court and attack a witness? Security? Handcuffs? Leg chains? The most minor amount of restraint for someone who is so obviously a dangerous person?

[@karend9445]

A cosmetic surgeon would have been called to do the work and would have put very tiny sutures inside and out to keep disfigurement to a minimum. So the number of sutures tells us the doctor worked very hard to keep scaring to a minimum.

[@tillitsdone]

Security wasn't the same in those days

[@samlape]

Government incompetence.

[@krisholden5365]

I’ve never gotten emotional listening to a podcast before but this got me. When Jason’s parents found out that he wasn’t with the others when they escaped it was devastating. As a parent, I can not even begin to fathom the level of anguish that I would feel. If I were in that situation, and it weren’t for my other children, I don’t think I would be able to resist ending my life in hopes that the pain would stop. God bless those poor people. This man is an absolute animal and is not fit to breathe the same air as the rest of us.

[@K8E666]

Ming Sen Shiue was declared eligible for parole in 2010, 29 years after he was convicted. On September 28, 2010, the Anoka Country District Judge Jenny Walker Jasper ruled Shiue would not be released and would spend the rest of his life in prison, as he still appeared a threat to society. He’s now 69 years old and thankfully he’ll die in prison....

[@86crud]

Ah. On my 40th birthday. Beautiful.

[@britth5333]

My goodness I’m glad. He is not normal or able to be trusted.

[@scottcantdance804]

Based judge. There are too many states and too many activist judges that would not only release him, but release him early. The fact that judge looked at him and said, not only does he not get parole 10 years early, but he also won't get out at 40 years, instead he'll stay in the rest of his natural life. Awesome judge.

[@birdhouse7230]

Mary is a remarkable woman. I'm shocked things like this happened long ago and if not for cyber life now, we'd never know the many horrors that we escaped growing up. So much evil in the world. And so much sadness.

[@fuzzymath6240]

We had TV and radio..... good grief this was only in the 80's I actually had an Apple Mac sometime around then......although I wish I hadn't traded it for a go-cart.....lol

[@user-mt4ku7jw1y]

That phone call to her dad was just heartbreaking, that poor little brave girl, so so sad

[@Bob-Bakley]

This is possibly the most heartbreaking, gut wrenching stories I have ever heard. The manner in which this channel tells the story might be the absolute best… I don’t know if I’ll be able to sleep tonight. I can’t get the little boy out of my head

[@claudiapaz3718]

I do not appreciate the 20 years of my life that I lost to that scream... you scared the bejesus out of me

[@QueenBB53]

What scream is everyone referring to?

[@PaulRudd1941]

@@QueenBB53 *JUST DRIVE*

[@santerialjones4967]

@@QueenBB53 Hi 😊 start listening at 141.25 & you'll hear the narrator scream N the Assholes voice #happy2help 😘San

[@QueenBB53]

@@santerialjones4967 Yeah I commented too soon before the part where he screamed but I did hear it. thank you.

[@annabellagardner3190]

Me too. It WAS terrifying but made for great narration didn't it.

[@ausplus]

That was riveting!!! Acted and with sounds effects...and that scream!!! I was on the edge of my chair the entire time. Thankyou so much. The delivery of this case was brilliantly done.

[@jstra]

That scream was insanely effective. Felt like i was in that bloody courtroom.

[@OOoKarmaoOO]

Even the prisoners got fed up with Ming💀

[@pearlkenna5745]

This case really stuck with me ,I couldn't believe what I was hearing ,its unbelievable, thanks for telling this to the world

[@jasonlongo6823]

Omg that scream 😂 I've listened to them from the newest episodes to oldest and I'm not used to the voice acting in the earlier episodes. Took me off guard to say the least !!!

[@amahlemaria4802]

Same here 😂

[@kathryn3390]

Yeah, they need to stop the reenactment. Don’t mess with success.

[@jasonlongo6823]

Yyyaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂

[@Emma-dn9ye]

made me LOL!

[@annabellagardner3190]

Brilliant narration, I was riveted to the entire podcast.

[@daymeinvanblocken3407]

A well done case report. Thanks.

[@outlawJosieFox]

He was not insane! He knew enough to use her daughter to manipulate the mother and he killed the boy in order to cover his tracks so he was cognizant of his actions. He was a malignant narcissist who thought that all of their lives were less important than his own.

[@SPUNKYMUNKYIFYER]

Indeed, and was well enough in touch with reality to cover the two with boxes to hide them, and get them changes of clothes to make them less recognizable...

[@sebastijanglozinic8630]

Exactly. The very fact that he murdered Jason because Jason discovered what he was doing by accident proves that Ming was very much aware of what he was doing and of the possible consequences.

[@sophiacalon3463]

I am so angry that victims have to face their attackers in court, this is inhumane. It could still happen today. The fact a father cannot retaliate to their son’s murder in court but somehow a prisoner is able to slash his victim’s face again in court is absolutely unacceptable.

[@jomcmenamin4579]

I'm binge listening ; doing me head in .

[@WobblyFNAF]

That scream was horrifying. 51 cases before this and the first scream. Gotta say, really had me there. Great work on all the videos!

[@kathryn3390]

No screaming needed. The truth is horrifying enough.

[@candicef2628]

Oh my goodness you can tell a story just got me so drawn into everything you're saying word for word I'm just amazed thank you

[@PollyAmorous]

Thank you so much for all your hard work sharing this story ❤.

[@donnathompson559]

Wow as a mother this one got to me 😢

[@sunnysarvottam2039]

The scream everybody mentioning is at 1:41:28, so you better lower the volume around that time.

[@roonilwazlib3089]

Ta for the heads up 👌🏻

[@sunnysarvottam2039]

@@roonilwazlib3089 You're most welcome buddy.

[@happychappyy]

Thankyou

[@Sirenmoonbee]

I love the different voices

[@sandygrogg1203]

Great channel..

[@barbaralamson7450]

You did an outstanding job on this horrible story. You always do this just stood out more

[@richardkranium2944]

Insanity defense. I can picture this guy standing in court saying to the judge “ I was crazy about her”

[@corrodedzine6320]

This is an amazing episode!

[@steff.7028]

Wow! Good job! You scared the Hell out of me!

[@kathryn3390]

I disagree. Many listeners don’t appreciate the theater. Some listen in places where they don’t need the stress of real life drama. Listership must have dwindled so they are trying tricks. No one wants the disturbing re-enactments because it could trigger psychological distress. Did they think this new bit through?

[@srahhh]

@@kathryn3390 Check the date on the video? This is one of their much older ones, lol.

[@dfgiuy22]

@@kathryn3390 calm down you psycho. Another Karan trying to tell everyone else in the world to act to their liking. If you don't like it, don't listen. If you get distressed easy, don't listen to true crime stuff. Fucking people these days...

[@kathryn3390]

@@dfgiuy22 Don’t call me a “Karen” because you know nothing of me. I said, the EARLIER shows, you dolt. I go back to the beginning with CASEFILE so stop telling ME what to do. I see my original reply didn’t make it past censors.

[@wiebkescantick947]

The description of the day Jason was abducted was heart wrenching. Your scream just before describing the attack in the court room against Mary scared the crap out of me. He knew exactly what he was doing. He had planned everything and had even researched the sentences of others who had abducted people and taken them across state lines. He didn't have to kill Jason. He chose to do that. Jason was absolutely no threat to him. I'm glad to hear he will never be released.

[@hb9599]

I admire the jury for waiting out the stupidity of the one problem member. I can imagine they all just wanted to go home.

[@missysbloglife]

Being from the area in Minnesota described this episode, including where Mary and Irving were born, I can see clearly where all of this happened.

[@OOoKarmaoOO]

Mary: I don't recall ever saying... Ming: *AAAAAAAAAAARH* This trial is almost as crazy as Manson's😭

[@skunky74]

Jason and I went to kindergarten together; I lived about 2 blocks from the beauty salon where the initial abduction occurred. Details are fuzzy, and I'm sure my parents shielded me from most details, but I remember they drained a swampy area near the salon as part of the search. After he went missing, there was a balance beam structure built dedicated to him, built on the school playground.

[@cristaltucker513]

This is a wild story! That scream was very unexpected and did give a little scare. Great coverage of this case.

[@RED-cy7ig]

I can't believe I have never heard this crazy story.

[@godamid4889]

Prayer is such an abject admission of hopelessness. Get up, and do something more than wish.

[@fuzzymath6240]

I cannot believe the cops read Mary her rights........WTF???????

[@fizarrah]

This infuriated me bc the police should have listen to the dad when he said it wasn’t normal for her to do this, screw that waiting for longer crap just get on it and that’s for all cases. Also wish Jason’s mom had had a car and had hopped into it and chased this monster down with the other mom both locked and loaded, they may have been able to catch up, although cell phones weren’t in everyone’s hands like today, at least they could have tried to slam him into something… idk just running around the park yelling knowing his friend said he was thrown into a trunk isn’t helpful, but I do know that panic!!! I pray so hard for them parents bc no parent should be faced with this bs it’s horrible and I will say nothing ill of the mom’s reaction bc it’s what most people would do in such a horrendous situation, and they didn’t deserve it, and I pray they don’t live with guilt themselves over it all. Poor boy just was being a damn kid and ugh!!! This monster could have still let the kid live also, his friend had already seen the car and the pos monster was apparently switching to a van anyway!! 😣 poor baby!! I don’t doubt that he’s done this or something similar before kidnapping these three, bc how was he so smooth and calm with it otherwise? Then after killing that poor baby he should have been shaky a bit more on edge and nervous, but it seems he just hopped back into the car with a good story to back him up and to keep Mary calm about how he just let him go to be found, as if it was just another day of his normal life. I’d have to dig around to see if he’d gotten away with something similar prior, what if there’s others unaccounted for!? He definitely needs no parole and if I was his lawyer I wouldn’t even try helping him idc bc he obviously knew what he was doing was wrong and that there was no love. He stalked her he kidnapped her and her child then made sure to keep them tied as to not to get free so he knew exactly what tf he was doing, he just wanted his revenge and his fantasy fulfilled and sadly he used this ladies baby girl as a pawn to make her mother obey him. Hell he had even cut a hole under their bed in their home to listen in, he was crazy yeah, but not to the point he didn’t know what he was doing was wrong, bc otherwise why was it so secret duh and creepy sneaking for years. He was calculated he didn’t act on impulse just evil. I would have given him the death penalty, I’m sorry for his mother, and I don’t really agree with the death penalty, but this is one of the few times where if I couldn’t hurt him myself I’d want him dead. We all know if he gets out he has planned to finish this off with revenge, just look how many times he tried to escape even grabbed her and cut her in the court room. Yeah he’s mentally ill, but so is half the prison population, he’s just more evil than the regular drug dealers or burglars, he is a calculated, manipulative, creepy, stalker, rapist, and murderer. He watched her for years, yeah we are talking YEARSSSS!!! Even breaking into her home a few times all over a fantasy and a grade, nah if it wasn’t her it would have been someone else if not already!!!

[@Flazlorky]

I almost started crying when Mary and Beth began their escape. Amazing.

[@astrid7080]

Well told. Thanks. :-)

[@lindseyhaswell9766]

How on earth didnt anyone see he had a knife in court ? Poor little jason his parents must have been distraught its just heartbreaking, they should have put him in a cell with the other inmates and lock the door

[@theresawhitty8124]

That was so well narrated, I could picture it. Was this ever made into a movie?

[@diorlista]

Yes. On Lifetime.

[@yukiefromoz2573]

Very interesting story. Sad about Jason though :(

[@Junkie101Jesus]

BEST NARRATOR EVER!!!

[@brettbambouturton3117]

A sad pathetic little man, cold calculating and narcissistic. I feel so bad for those who suffered through the actions of this pathetic person. R.I.P Jason❤

[@yeetnama9094]

Mings mother is a POS as well, and ahould be held liable for raising that monster. HOW DARE SHE have no empathy for the victims, and whine about asian racial discrimination against Ming when he received his 30 yr sentence. Shame on Mary for "praying with her" Poor Jasons mum and dad

[@evdaribarovski5698]

My heart goes out to little Jason whose life was taken for nothing and I wish to express my deepest sympathy to Jason's family for their loss. I really thought that Jason may have survived. As for that psycopath so glad he will die in jail absolute nut case. I wish they had poisoned him in jail he knew exactly what he was doing. Why don't people who commit horrible crimes get cancer to expedite their death

[@staystrong8966]

JESUSBLEEDINGCHRIST I stuck myself with a screwdriver at that scream!

[@amydasset8712]

This has been my favorite episode yet (watching in order for pandemic entertainment, staying being you're talented)

[@jaccusefashion]

62 stitches for having her face slashed but jury instructed not to take it into account...

[@user-mt4ku7jw1y]

Insanity isn't it?

[@rationalconsumer6133]

Bro the jumpscare like 2 hours in 😂 ur trying to kill me

[@ceglastymonster7799]

1:41:27 that fucking scream made me jump at work. jesus that was scary! :)

[@VandelayH]

I liked the bit where you laughed. For God's sake, Mary...

[@Stoate]

i might be being super dense here but what was the significance of the police number she memorised? was there a particular reason she couldn't just call 911?

[@brandyjean7015]

Although 911 became more common throughout the '70s it wasn't available everywhere in 1980.

[@Babblecat3000]

Always trying to get monsters off through "insanity".... Bring back the Death penalty.

[@ANDREA-kk2gx]

Jason should've been brought up during the trial since it was MING that kidnapped and MURDERED him!!

[@Balrog-tf3bg]

This guys f*cked in the head for sure but he knew damn well what he was doing. This whole story is so messed up. There wasn’t even a “happy” ending except for what prisoners did to Ming, tho the fact he lives is a travesty of prison justice

[@MP-ye6tv]

I’m no lawyer, but I’m conflicted by insanity as a defence (1) well, you would have to be insane to do what he did (2) loads of people experience undeserved, suffering and troubled upbringings they don’t turn into murderers… BUT he knew right from from wrong, he even researched the implications of crossing state lines… he had no cognitive impairment, in fact he was smart, built a $15M dollar business

[@Whocares144]

For the life of me I can't understand how society allows them to live,

[@cathybassett6432]

Jason's Mom speaking towards the end of the video was almost too hard to listen to. How unbearable. The whole thing was monstrous.

[@VanessaGarcia-rr9vf]

You can tell a story well.

[@nickykeightley9355]

Ming must never be released. He will be a danger and a threat to Ms Mary all the days of his life. May God help him.

[@andrewforbes1433]

Their legs were "bounded together?" I enjoy Casefile, but the scripts need a copy editor.

[@MaryJane-qq9mm]

My last name is Stauffer.. Mary is my alter lol I saw an ad for the lifetime movie. So creepy.

[@MatVR23]

bro hit the big lez voice 6 minutes in. caught me so off guard

[@mollyalbert6274]

Please do one about Thad Phillips joe Clark and Chris Steiner baraboo Wisconsin kidnaping and murder case 1994-1997

[@elledena4732]

The amount of ads on this video is almost offensive

[@romystumpy1197]

I didnt have a single ad.

[@coreencasey5109]

Me either

[@GhGh-gq8oo]

God what fart sniffing bullshit from the parent with that little diatribe at the end.

[@missychan63]

You had me all the way up until Ming wrote the check.... He would not have had access to his checkbook in jail, are you kidding me? Somebody lied to you... How do you guys literally add a whole syllable letter to the word aluminum? There is no "i" after the "n"... There just isn't. "Uh-Lew-Mih-Num", Just like it's spelled. There's no extra "i". 😂

[@1songbird7]

😂 That's to funny my bf says it like that and it drives me batty ... Glad it's not just me lol

[@leahstone9308]

That’s how it’s spelled over there. You can read the full history of that at the Gabrian website, but here’s the last bit of it - “The most comforting part of this story is that both Aluminum and Aluminium are accepted and correct. Aluminum is preferred in North America, whereas Aluminium is the spelling preferred in the United Kingdom and most other English-speaking nations.”

[@kirschrot77]

I feel the mother of Ming had something to do with is crazyness

[@jwinnfield9192]

just driiiiive!!!!!

[@brendajstevens3719]

👏👏👏

[@MsHburnett]

survival . What $ compensation was paid to both families from mad mings $15 mill estate.

[@KristinShoots]

while understanding this is an old video, it has been quite some time since it’s been acceptable to use “oriental” in referring to the Asian people. the term oriental is used for places & things, not persons. friendly PSA: the more you know 💫

[@thecatatemyhomework]

Sorry to say that when you do voice immitations, especially the little boy, I had to laugh out loud. I find it odd and don't think it adds anything to your narration. If anything, it subtracts from it.

[@UItraVioIet]

Agreed. I don't like the voices at all.

[@Chloe_Charming]

The voice acting is horrible in this…it is so distracting!

[@markeywestskies6503]

Ming the Merciless...Nutter; perhaps not legally, a bonafide colloquial nutcase nonetheless.

[@kerriemorris3155]

Eeehhh the tapes were not allowed as they would prove mings guilt?? Their evidence and is that not what evidence is for like he couldn't of been any more guilty??? Wtf I just don't get that is that not the point of a trial for each side to prove with evidence whether a person is innocent or guilry?? N they had many opportunities to leave n if it read me n my daughter you bet if I didn't want to leave I'd defo have my daughter at least run for her life!!! He took them clothes shopping n traveled around in a RUV while he left them alone n even then they never tried scream for help knowing he was gone for hours!! Idk sounds like they were quite happy I can't comprehend them being in fear for their lives while he was gone the fear would of left with him I would of thought??? Sounds all a bit unbelievable tbh but only 1hr.20 mins into it!!! Maybe their reasoning hasn't been explained fully n my comment is a bit premature

[@lorrainefryer]

It didn’t happen to you though. So how can you know the fear they felt? Got to be the most deluded horrible comment. You think she enjoyed being raped, captive with her child, who he put a bag on her head, so she had to comply? WOW. Let’s hope you never end up in a horrific situation like this. And when they were first kidnapped Beth was screaming constantly, a terrified child. Maybe open ears and listen before commenting utter annoying nonsense. 😡😡.

[@MusicDiLaurentis]

Its soo difficult to understand you with yout accent if youre not a native english speaker 😅 I had to concentrate so much to follow you

[@ashes0529]

✌

[@TrashwareArt]

So in the end they ended up just walking out of the house and hiding behind a bush completely on their own... I'm sorry, what?! Also why wouldnt a school teacher know she can call 911 why would she have to memorize a number from a police car.

[@JoshyP744]

That was 1980 NO 911

[@TrashwareArt]

@@JoshyP744 On February 16, 1968, Alabama Senator Rankin Fite made the first 911 call in the United States in Haleyville, Alabama. The Alabama Telephone Company carried the call. A week later, Nome, Alaska, implemented a 911 system.

[@JoshyP744]

Statewide Implementation Minnesota Statutes Chapter 403 was passed in 1977 and required all counties to implement 911 by the end of 1986. The Telecommunications Division of the Department of Administration provided planning, help and encouragement to the counties. The statewide 911 law defined the role of the Department of Administration to complete this project and included the cooperation and assistance of the Metropolitan Council (the Metropolitan 911 Board and currently named the Metropolitan Emergency Services Board). The law required each county to develop a plan to implement 911, implementation by December 15, 1982, in the seven-county metropolitan area, and by December 15, 1986 in the remaining counties. The 911 law also created a commission to determine an equitable method of paying for 911 in Minnesota which and resulted in funding being added to the 911 law in 1978

[@bwold9138]

She didn't just "walk out of the house." Mary successfully removed the hinge pin on the closet door while chained to her daughter, called the police from the kitchen, and hid with her daughter until the police finally arrived. Also, 911 wasn't implemented into the twin cities until after 1980. Maybe you could stop judging a woman who endured horrible things and saved herself and her daughter.

[@arikiropiha7549]

You're a knob

[@mov1ngforward]

Jason wasn't just some little kid, he was a divinely guided angel! Watch for signs and symbols on your path as it guides you to your true North. Prayer is what saved these souls. They met with evil and Jason tried to save them.

[@dukebaloof5306]

sorry to be so rude here, but Mary Stauffer was absolutely hideous, it's bizarre to see someone take so many violent risks for a wholly unremarkable marm, like what the fuck was he thinking lol

[@malovela]

I'm ashamed of that comment on your behalf. I hope the past two years have somehow taught you not to speak that way about others, alive or dead - especially about people who've done you no wrong, and extra-especially about people who you know have gone through terrible ordeals through no fault of their own. There can be no acceptable reason for going so low.

[@margaretwhittaker2291]

Very well said! I couldn't believe what I was reading, that previous comment shows the substance of the person who wrote it. Shameful!@@malovela

[@lindseyhaswell9766]

I thought she was incredibly brave she had her daughter to think about , it wasn't about taking risks she was terrified and tried to keep him calm she wasn't hideous

[@detectivedickcrispy7819]

Okay I'm like not even halfway through this video and I've counted 26 ads. I know you need the money or whatever but Jesus Christ, man, how can I enjoy your show with all the interruptions?

[@elledena4732]

I just left a comment like this too. I can't believe you're the only other person that's pointed this out.

[@romystumpy1197]

I had no ads.