Case 89: Ella Tundra

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On October 3 2014, Paige Rolland was working her regular shift at Asda supermarket, in Glenrothes, Scotland. She was in the breakfast aisle...
CREDITS
Narration - Anonymous Host
Episode researched and written by Eileen Ormsby, author of ‘The Darkest Web - Drugs, Death and Destroyed Lives: The inside story of the internet’s evil twin’
Production, scoring - Mike Migas
Additional scoring - Andrew Joslyn
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[@donnablack6280]

"His self-published masterpiece..." 😂 The dry humour and dark wit of Casefile Presents is so beautifully crafted I'm hooked forever.

[@OOoKarmaoOO]

"The fantasy was so strong he could hear the Star Wars music running through his head" Lawwwd💀😭

[@bugsieverse]

It's weird.... Same thing happens to me when I see a girl, though it's usually the imperial march lmfao

[@deborahol]

@@bugsieverse Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@OOoKarmaoOO]

"She loves you yeah,yeah...yeah" I'm done 🤣

[@always_b_natural703]

I was stranger stalked in the 80s. It's difficult to describe how frightening it is. I'm a brave gal, but this was hard. My sex crimes detective told me 'Stalkers rarely do anything, but if the do, it will be the most f**ked up thing.' This narrative definitely showed this aspect of irrational, dangerous behavior.

[@texastea5686]

Uuugghhh I'm sorry! What happened to the stalker? Did you ever know who it was?

[@always_b_natural703]

@@texastea5686 Yes, the police were able to determine who it probably was. It's a long and complicated story. Basically, he was a guy that did this consistently, even to women he worked with, hence having a history. The reason he wasn't able to be prosecuted was that he learned how to avoid being pinned for his crimes. He worked in a large plant. When my phone was tapped, a number would come up, with an extension. However, there was no way to tell if the extension presented was the phone that was being used. Even if it was, like any large workplace, most employees can use most phones. And if there's nobody around, he could use the phone at will. This was a shift work plant, so the offices would be left open for the cleaning crew to go through, and be locked after the work was complete, so he had plenty of access for his favorite hobby. Anyways, he called for a number of years. I thought he would stop if my husband would talk to him. He wasn't put off at all. The police had told me he was basically under his wife's thumb, so I took a chance. On the final call, I told him that the police had told me who he was. If he kept calling me, I would have a visit with his wife, and present the evidence the police had given me, and let her know what he'd been up to. There was a long silence, and he hung up, never to call again.

[@sidstovell2177]

I love Casefile. I'm very much aware of the hard work done by all, but especially today, of the narrator. Thank you! Wish we could do more to deal with the problem of stalking. And mental health, in general.

[@mikki3740]

Wow...this guy's grandiosity is so hard to digest. He's like a 17 on the 1-to-10 delusional narcissist scale. Unbelievable.

[@Frazzy14luv]

Was listening to this at 3am working in my local asda store trying not to have a anxiety attack x

[@QueenBB53]

Normally I would give an honest critique of what I think of the stalker but I’m genuinely worried he might read it and find out where I live😮

[@TaxedtoXXX]

So funny 😂

[@isaeihwaz3227]

And think that you're declaring your love for him in code

[@heavymetalredneck7973]

👀

[@Dikvej884iv4]

Oh no

[@shireyb_artzamber9155]

@@TaxedtoXXX😮😮😅😮😮😮

[@jennifermcdonald5432]

It just goes to show that no matter how innocent your comments may be, if a person wants to, they can see their meaning in them. How incredibly scary and overwhelming to have to constantly monitor everyone you around you and everywhere you go.

[@TcheQ]

THis has got to be the creepiest story in all of casefile. Loved the way you were reading the Beatles lyrics.

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

Lmao what!!?? Far from the creepiest Casefile 😂

[@icequeen9417]

You are the best casefiles.

[@mariapower9979]

Your best one, so far, CF!!!!!!! How horrifying! One wonders when obsession becomes a sickness.....stalking is only a symptom and devilishly hard to prove in legal circles.... I hope these two women have gigantic, boyfriend bodyguards now........

[@naomiledger1374]

The guy clearly had zero social skills and was a fantasist. I suspect he'd always been like that but, with the 'great fame' he achieved on the TV show, he discovered a platform (even if it only existed in his own mind) from which he could flex his bolstered narcissism. Sadly, poor Ella was his target.

[@davidmayhew8083]

In the mid eighties I was stalked by a gay guy for two years. As a gay man myself I just wanted to add that this kind of thing happens to men too. It left me shaken and I'll never forget it. One night I was in a train returning home from work. I was the only person on the car, or so I thought. I leaned forward and was stunned to see something sitting next to me. It was him. Dressed in black leather and wearing a very creepy fright mask. I just kept looking forward and after some time looked to my left and he was gone. I hadn't noticed him for some time up to this point. He was very clever. He managed to befriend some of my friends who wouldn't believe my story. Eventually I read an article about stalking and had a name for this behavior. I still find it disturbing to talk or write about it.

[@cynthiacatambara8070]

Wow what a crazy story... I'm also glad no one died but wow

[@rogerpattube]

Thanks for the spoiler! Your comment was top.

[@cynthiacatambara8070]

@@rogerpattube oh man! Sorry about that 😬

[@thecatatemyhomework]

​@@rogerpattubeI would think you would know by now not to read the comments before watching the video.

[@cannedsquasher5923]

​​@@thecatatemyhomeworkthis is true but in my case I only ever load this on my phone at work and on my phone the first comment shows there very clearly. I do my best to avoid looking at it but sometimes I don't think and I see it and I read very fast. So in some cases it is purely unavoidable for me.

[@deborahol]

Wow crazy, glad they're still with us a it could've been worse. What they went through though, the fear, it's literally like not having a life. Wish them the very best.

[@prjndigo]

the audio excerpt is a holy shit moment, vocal distortions and a broad aspergers is clear

[@Juhani139]

I laughed out loud in a nervous way when he said "every breath you take". I reaaaaally hope this guy continues with therapy and medication. I feel sorry for him. Also: creepy. I feel like there are things crawling all over me.

[@arangojuanp]

Thank you!

[@plusminus5483]

Great Episode!

[@FreakRoosterMan]

'A tenacious tyke with talon like claws' 😂 How the Casefile host didn't laugh as he read that line from the book out is beyond me....

[@0The_Farlander0]

What a sad, awful little man

[@AlfizzlFoShizzl]

She loves you yeah, yeah, yeah

[@tiarnan76]

I found this by watching old versions of countdown....great job am now subbed...

[@outlawJosieFox]

You might also like Trace Evidence Podcast. It's also really great story telling.

[@christinaperrigo]

Richard is a nut, indeed. But Paige, her "review" writes as a narcissist.

[@robokill387]

This guy's youtube channel is still up.

[@carolinebrennan3864]

What a creep!!!

[@PJF1981]

Thanks for making the Beatles dark af! =P

[@QueenBB53]

Over played, repetitive lyrical rubbish....that is the Beatles.

[@carolball5764]

@@QueenBB53Tell that to most of the bands that came after them ? I suppose you can’t please all of the people all of the time..

[@kskssxoxskskss2189]

Couldn't prove he was stalking her?!?! More like they would pursue nothing else if they took that kind of offense seriously.

[@yukiefromoz2573]

Hmm interesting... glad noone was killed in this case.

[@macewindu4442]

So She is Leia and he is Han Solo? I think she was Padme and he was Anakin. Look how much he has in common with Anakin. Arrogant, stalker-mentality, unstable love-sick sad person descending down a spiral of over-emotional behavior leading to dangerous outbursts.

[@josephbrotherbear2124]

The homie mace windu spittin knowledge

[@alexah3256]

Self-awareness isn't his thing.

[@mrcavanaugh42]

I couldn't help it, but halfway through I had to look this guy up, and OH MY.. he is the dude from high school, red hair geek who never got laid! Just take my word!

[@QueenBB53]

I’d be a little worried to criticize him that much. What if he reads your comment?

[@alexah3256]

Yes. He's an incel, so he's not like the nice nerdy guy who accepts your "no, thank you" and never bothers you again. Instead he stews in misogyny until it rises to his fedora.

[@drewmadenew3000]

The best part is I’ll Be Watching You is about a stalker 😂

[@josephbrotherbear2124]

This guy was drowning in delusion lol.

[@quickchris10]

Well he did last two months in a job; I mean, for 60 consecutive days, he got up, went to work, followed the directions, produced some work, took his kicks in the pants, etc.; I mean, that's pretty good, right? Seems like he could have kept that up, but maybe he would just get into altercations. Yes, it does sound like books are getting longer. 70,000 words!

[@starion88esir]

You could have started and ended with the fact he is in to Moby and we would all understand how mentally deficient he is.

[@christinaperrigo]

Wow. Ella walked into that one.

[@denise8791]

Holy shit that's creepy.

[@sfletch3042]

What a freak! Stalkers need intense therapy and/or a jail cell. Charles Manson also thought the Beatles were speaking to him.

[@ksciaa0103]

It always seems like these crazies listen to the Beatles. lol

[@empower.1982]

Charles Manson never killed anyone

[@TMMReznor]

It's because The Beatles are one of the most overrated and godawful bands in modern history. It's no wonder that crazies like them so much.

[@TMMReznor]

@@empower.1982 No, he got other people to do it for him, which makes him even worse imo.

[@naomiledger1374]

OMG say no more!! 😱

[@briannab9007]

This guy is scary and insufferable! Urffghhhhh!!!

[@kt6207]

You crack me up.

[@izabelaizzy5763]

The way you tell this story creeps me out. Don't get me wrong.... You're doing a great job there but "she loves you yeah, yeah.... yeah" gave me the goosebumps.

[@sophieb3093]

This guy 🤢

[@Jolenesmart1980]

I’m the beginning where you got that there’s generous staff discounts for working at Asda? Iv worked there and there isn’t

[@brendajstevens3719]

👏👏👏

[@jerrymarshall2095]

When I was a young man the cops in my area would have picked him up and thumped his gourd with a warning that if they get another call he'd likely be run out of town in a wheelchair.

[@fairysnuff-000]

Yes…. There are plenty of positives about the old days …. Nowadays, because everything has to be reported in triplicate and analysed, the police have to wait til the girls dead before they are allowed to act

[@Loralanthalas]

Jesus. No wonder he just got worse and worse and didn't see humans as anything to be cherished.

[@jerrymarshall2095]

@@Loralanthalas some people need it.being nice to evil mean people doesn't work out judicial system has proven that pal.so grow up.

[@hannaphe6250]

This made me want to start tweeting

[@jedzillargaming2910]

Need some attention do you 🤣

[@theunfortunatespectacle7381]

He not only knocks critics upside the head with wine bottles, his writing makes Robert E. Howard sound like Kurt Vonnegut. Ghastly poetry should be in the McDonald triad somewhere.

[@famachris]

I think I would have stopped tweeting if this creep was after me.

[@ah-shar-ya2363]

The lesson is to stop putting your every thought on the internet. Someone will always take it the wrong way.

[@aikaterineillt9876]

Yea yea yea

[@an-open-eye]

his magnum copus

[@sheryldalton8965]

8 letter words...lol. My 8 year old nephew can sound out & spell most 8, 9 & 10 letter words correctly. This guy is a legend in his own mind. 0

[@user-mt4ku7jw1y]

True creep

[@kskssxoxskskss2189]

She really missed a lot of clues. Sadly. Coach everyone (any gender) and keep repeating.

[@jomcmenamin4579]

Richard one day will probably have a cult following. The world is full of madness, many unfortunately meet their bogeyman. .

[@malovela]

I wonder why you chose to name the episode after the character, not the real woman.

[@rogerpattube]

She had ‘no clue’ he was obsessively following her social media? How could this be when at the time he was following her and sending her messages all the time.

[@chicagogyrl4846]

Well lady, if you didn’t post your whereabouts for everyone to see, you would not have had him stalking you!! 😂🤣

[@juliamcwilliam]

And I suppose she should of covered up in her photos on social media. Victim blaming is never cool

[@brendansheerin8980]

​@juliamcwilliam 100% right

[@laurastabell2489]

Well said by someone who posts figure revealing pictures and where abouts on social media. Why arent you covering up? The above is an example of victim blaming. Its normal in our society to show an attractive photo of ourselves and chat about what we do and where we go. Nobody should be forced to be in a group of "certain people " who cant do whats commonly done due to the difficulties of an individual or individuals to deal in a normal way with sexuality issues. In order to find a mate, women and men have to flaunt some sexuality and over all attractiveness. Its not posted for other reasons by the majority of people. I think displays of outgoing behaviors are also a positive in society. Showing off a social life or active life are showing ourselves in a positive light. Why should some people be forced to shut down that life or displays of that life? Thats part of the victimization. If I cant have you, no one can. Lets do things to the victim to limit their social engagement. Lets sexualize or objectify them so that interreactions with others cease to be positive. Its subtle yet effective to feed poison pills of thought to others about an individual. He effectively "whore" -ified her. Then only thing she did was be born attractive to him. From this point , she cant be sure the motives of any man towards her aren't purely sexual. She has had to go into hiding. Very sad.

[@naomiledger1374]

I don't agree with victim blaming either but when does the victim get to take some level of responsibility for their own safety?? If I were being stalked and quite terrified I absolutely would not be maintaining my social media presence. It's just common sense, surely?!

[@christinaperrigo]

Ella played with him in her tweets.

[@tammyallen3813]

too many comercials

[@Weird-City]

As if that wasn't bad enough - the book absolutely sucked! Truly awful. I would go so far as to say, it was the worst book I have ever encountered. A genuine stinker.

[@kagome1230100]

$68.00 for the yoga pants he advertised in the beginning!!! I'll stick with my $10 or less pairs. I'm cheap like that

[@ruthwalton3457]

Maybe I should listen to that again lol. I fast forwarded when he mentioned they looked smart...for work.... 😂😂😂😜😲 I bought some smashing yoga pants in a pack of three off the dreaded Amazon for approximately 22 US dollars. .. depends on the exchange rate really . I like mine and they are smart. 😊😉 Bargain

[@empower.1982]

They were "dress" yoga pants.

[@empower.1982]

They were "dress" yoga pants.

[@ilkkarautio2449]

Those who cant do become reviewers. 😂 Its funny bc its true. But murder on the other hand aint a laughing matter.

[@anonymous-sg9ph]

Lol sounds about right , too many people these days have become used too running thier mouth on the net with no consequences 😂 🤣