Case 82: Maria Korp

[@selfless-esteem]

The fact that they smelled a decomposing body but she was still alive.. oh my gosh. Maria was so determined for the right thing to happen that she was able to survive for 4 days. Stories like this make me believe in the power of determination.

[@SpicyTexan64]

You wouldn't smell a decomposing body if she was alive. Very strange.

[@roygoss7556]

@@SpicyTexan64 story mentioned how weak her heart was pumping blood and blood vessels were shutting down. I’m sure her extremities that weren’t receiving blood were decomposing. Now, that’s just my expertise as a truck driver. Lol

[@lunagoodhart5489]

It was 2 hours after they popped the boot before they realized that she was in fact alive and an ambulance was called.

[@Dikvej884iv4]

Necrosis

[@Aryasvitkona]

@@SpicyTexan64 Yes you would. Without movement and sustenance like water and food, her body was literally beginning to rot. She WAS decomposing. The sores were likely dead tissue by this point, etc etc. Severe gangrene also smells like decomposing flesh. Because the flesh literally begins to rot.

[@annaallegretti2596]

I love you podcasts.You really do a better job than most.

[@Cool-Aid5564]

Except for no pictures...

[@melska]

I was about to fall asleep when I heard about the restraining order my eyes popped open like here we go again

[@SHurd-rc2go]

Thanks, again. Riveting writing and delivery. At one point, I'm thinking, uh-oh, here we go again, but could not stop listening.

[@Brind-amour]

You deserve millions of views and subscribers.

[@phatlassie]

Absolutely

[@hopedunkel2298]

Tanya a thorn in his relationship, but not his cheating? Classy

[@birdhouse7230]

Some of your stories are so riveting that I want to know more about the victim or what was involved. This was one such case. You do a great job of narrating, but you might find the Australian True Crime podcast w/Narrell Fraser an incredibly powerful first-hand account. She was the officer who opened up the trunk/boot and she describes in detail what happened. It was very different from your "take"....Not only does she describe in detail the scene...but how she connected to Maria on a level that impacted her so much she had a case of post-traumatic stress and needed to deal with this after. She also relays another episode dealing with another cop years later, who was also on that scene. He left the job after that day. This was such a sorrowful story, almost karmic-like in Maria's eloquent 'goodbye'...as for the GF who carried out the horrific deed, she should've gotten at least 50 years---the fact that you are a weak person doesn't exclude you from being evil. She got away w/murder. May Maria rest in peace...

[@SHurd-rc2go]

I would like a forensic psychologist to study Tanya. Learning of her relationships before Korp, and the way she was with him, make me wonder, what created that?

[@Jolenesmart1980]

Just listened to that one

[@jenniesomerville2502]

Best podcast ever

[@diannew6066]

What a cesspoll of characters. And that woman only spent 9 years and 4 days in prison before being released. One of those stories that make you want to shower after listening.

[@zarlei6048]

Yea, a fucking nazi gas shower. It disturbs me that such people live among us.

[@FireRising86]

Must be nice to be a woman and never deal with responsibility

[@Aryasvitkona]

I have a degree of sympathy for her, she was clearly someone who was easily abused and manipulated. She is a victim of Joe's as well. She deserves SOME mitigating factors in our viewing of her. But I am glad she expressed clear and expressed remorse and horror at her own actions. I think 9 years is probably too short, but I do think she shouldn't have served more than 15 under the circumstances. That said she ABSOLUTELY needs to go to extensive therapy regarding her actions, the trauma involved, and help in recognising abusive people. Like that shit should be court mandated, minimum 2 years therapy.

[@thecatatemyhomework]

She in got 9 years in prison. She was a monster. It was her final decision to do what she did. She heard her struggling to breathe in the trunk. I can't even believe what kind of monster would let that happen. I bet if Joe came to her and professed his love for her she would fall into his arms. I don't know why she's being portrayed as a sympathetic character.

[@lunagoodhart5489]

There was a fact and I always thought it was a pretty big fact. When the vehicle was found and Once police opened the boot it was several hours before they realized that she was in fact alive. It was a pretty big deal at the time.

[@Debaser2421]

She smelled like a cadaver dogs dream. The assumption was made but yes she was still alive.

[@hegemonycricket2182]

That's interesting. If true, that time was crucial and could have made a big difference in the outcome.

[@Aryasvitkona]

@@hegemonycricket2182 Honestly, it might, but I'm hesitant. By that point she had spent about 4 straight days without food or water, in a stationary and cramped position resulting in her tissue beginning to rot. Remember, she smelled like a corpse. As such, even if they'd given immediate medical attention, I don't expect her chances to have been very high. 3 days without water alone is lethal. She lasted at least 4. It was a miracle she was still breathing at all, but there was a moderate to high chance she'd have been brain dead anyway. That said, the fact she was still breathing means that it MIGHT have changed things, but I'm doubtful. 24 hours earlier? Absolutely her chances massively shoot up in survival. A few hours? Even 6? They increase, but not enough imo.

[@smink8]

Amazing detail!

[@ahmetsalman8907]

Fact ttctt fxhf

[@kirschrot77]

That dude was not worth the attention of one woman let alone 2

[@takohamoolsen2432]

One wonders what Joe would've done to Tanya when he was sick of her like he was Leonie and Maria. Then again, Tanya may've killed him if that's the case.

[@michellerenner6880]

His first wife escaped a nasty end

[@Levon2464]

How was Joe granted bail? What a joke. Our justice system in Australia so weak

[@tkdb317]

Even with divorce rates as high as they are these days, bad marriages last longer Australian prison sentences for murder 😂

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Remember when you lost a prime minister by the ocean and named a swimming pool after him....

[@arangojuanp]

Thank you!

[@richardcranium3579]

Tanya wanted a different relationship than hookups etc and yet jumped right into that with this winner…….. Smh The ghouls and criminal’s definitely come out on the good side (if there can be a good side in a horrific case like this). Romeo avoids any kind of punishment, the other perpetrator is let out after serving bank robbery length of time, and the victim and her family suffer……..is any actual attempt at true justice being made any more? Anything at all? Or do we just accept that any monster who commits a depraved crime will soon be back in society without too much inconvenience for them?………. People wonder why others take the law into their own hands…….it’s when the “Justice system” stops doing its job……

[@FireRising86]

*Hug*

[@texastea5686]

God...... don't people know how to learn to love themselves and be at peace with living alone??! Do they constantly have to have a partner? Or be on the hunt for a "soul mate"? So ridiculous

[@wiebkescantick947]

I've been single for almost 3 years now and I absolutely love it.

[@peteglanton9259]

So Tanya commits murder, says her boyfriend told her to do it, and basically gets away with it. Imagine if a man murdered someone and said his girlfriend told him to do it? There’s some serious sexism going on here. Tanya deliberately and wilfully committed murder, and she should’ve been sentenced accordingly.

[@Aryasvitkona]

You're forgetting the extensive other information, such as the genuine remorse she expressed and the detailed psych reports stating that without Joe she would never have committed such a violent act. Like I agree court systems can be excessively lenient to women sometimes, but I don't think this is one of them.

[@patedwards8844]

She said those things to cover for what she did of her own volition to soften her sentence. 🎉​@@Aryasvitkona

[@texastea5686]

1:32:15 I've told my family : give me a week, if there's no hope, pull the plug.

[@tillitsdone]

Same here. I don't want to be a celery laying there.

[@jesusfreak996]

Poor Maria and poor kids😢😢

[@joaquimfortes5166]

Im surprised they let that woman out of jail i wouldve upped the chargers to murder smh what a justices system Australia

[@RED-cy7ig]

He should not have been allowed to get out of this situation. That girlfriend got off easy.

[@lindahill3486]

Brilliantly narated. Such a sad twisted crime. I'm actually glad he took his own life. The sentence she got was pathetic and his was likely to have been the same. R.I.P Maria Korp. Rot in help Joe.

[@SpicyTexan64]

Rot in help indeed.

[@rachelsill79]

2 bathrooms?!?! A 7500 square foot house with two bathrooms? That's crazy

[@Debaser2421]

Most houses that size built around that time only have 2 bathrooms.

[@lunagoodhart5489]

This is also Australia we don't need 50 bathrooms in a house like America.

[@MR-pv7qg]

@@lunagoodhart5489 😂😂😂

[@thecatatemyhomework]

​@@lunagoodhart5489no one is talking about 50 bathrooms but 7500 sq ft is a very big house. Only two bathrooms is ridiculous.

[@tillitsdone]

Maybe they were really huge bathrooms

[@rosstitute88]

What do we think happened Maria's wedding ring? Either Maria or Tania took it off but where is it?

[@maggiefitzgerald1276]

I actually don't know

[@Shannon-rq2hc]

The narrator is list as anonymous, but he sounds like the Ozzy how reads all the Bryce Courtenay novels, Humphrey Bower. He can do any English speaking accent perfectly. Anyone know this gentleman’s name?

[@jackheaton2246]

Yes he is Australian I looked into it further I believe he’s from Brisbane but couldn’t find anything more.

[@feliciasa]

Interesting how Maria's family in Portugal weren't her legal guardian?

[@trudy__taylorandjorjamummy]

Not if she is married

[@Aryasvitkona]

@@trudy__taylorandjorjamummy Given her husband was a suspect in her attempted murder, the parents should default to being next of kin. I suspect the international issues stopped it. If her family were in Australia at the time, I suspect a judge would have rather immediately ordered they be given guardianship to allow them to make medical decisions on her behalf, though it likely would have been restricted to ONLY medical decisions due to the legal snafu

[@theresag1969]

I'm amazed at a women who could be manipulated enough to kill. Research needs to be do on those who comply with the desired of killers and pedophiles and the women that love them. I don't think is simply the fact that they love them. We are erroneously assuming they know what lovd is.

[@theresag1969]

@@harorider96 I find it amazing too. It's even more amazing to hear the extent of women's excuses. I find it hilarious when these women feign helplessness after abusing a child for their boyfriends. A boyfriend who hadn't even bothered to marry her yet she is acting like his wife. Go figure the thinking of these women.

[@regisgodfrey3416]

A big part of the plethora of issues concerning extreme actions and reactions is that people are desperate to find and hold onto anyone they think they love. Our society has made it seem as though you have to be in a relationship to be "complete", and that you should be ashamed of getting divorced or breaking up with someone you loved. What is thought of as "romantic love" is actually something called limerence, which is an involuntary, physical, and temporary state. People are driven to do some crazy things bc they believe it will allow them to keep or return to the "honeymoon period" that is limerence. It's a powerful chemical reaction with effects similar to that of drugs.

[@theresag1969]

@@regisgodfrey3416 I think it's more about people caring about how they look to other people than societal pressures.

[@pikeman80]

These are very well presented. The one thing is that backing music is quite irritating

[@patedwards8844]

I think it adds🏁🤔😅💓🧏🤸🏆

[@Algimantaz]

U always know a man is suspicious when his wifes friends have bags that the wife gave them in case they go missing..

[@lizflamma4252]

I mean, I do understand manipulation and brain washing…but murder? To the point of actually killing another human being? And not calling the authorities even after hearing her breathing and knowing she was alive for five whole days slowly and painfully dying? Unless she thought her boyfriend’s life was in danger by Maria, I don’t see how that could happen. I could see her being manipulated as if the wife was dangerous and unhinged and she needed to “save” him. Still…5 days is more than enough time to snap out of it and call for help, even if it got her arrested. That’s what guilt would really look like. She might feel guilty, but she certainly displays narcissist traits of putting herself first no matter what.

[@Aryasvitkona]

She was a very weak and vulnerable person mentally from what it appears. She also does seem to be a little mentally unwell, not severely or even a specific diagnosis, but I don't think she exhibited narcisstic traits. I don't think she viewed Maria as a danger to Joe, but I do think that she believed she was a vile person who deserved to die. Remember as she was told, if Joe left her she'd kill herself and probably the kids, etc etc. So she viewed her as a manipulative and cruel woman who was better off dead, as that's what Joe implied and made her believe. He warped her view of reality, to the point she would casually talk about killing her until after Joe was forcefully seperated from her by the police, and when he cast her to the wolves by saying he only loved Maria. It shattered the delusions he had built for her, and the weight of her actions sunk in slowly. It's why she told police everything without all that much pushing. She was starting to realise what she'd done. There was no snapping out of it in those 5 days, the delusion was built too strong due to her easily manipulated nature. It's a very rough situation for her and I feel pretty bad she basically ruined her life like that. Keep in mind manipulation can be very, very effective and can genuinely make people do things they otherwise never would. That's what happened here. I hope she gets the help she needs, she's too easily manipulated and needs to get extensive therapy to help her recognise bad people like Joe.

[@JennaMills-qb5hx]

Sad but freaky true story with a twist in the end lines.

[@livinglifetoday9171]

I really wanted to find a documentary on this case and it was difficult finding something that people hadn't given their opinion along the way - this vid would have been fine - I just can't deal with computer voices on videos - it just takes away the human aspect.

[@JudeNance]

Control is evil.

[@gaylemc2692]

Come on women, we can do better than this.

[@marktrezise7312]

What happened to Maria Korp.

[@kirschrot77]

Listen to the podcast

[@jesusfreak996]

The coward killed himself

[@rileytherandom]

so did Joe's brother actually make that phone call? what... (that Joe had died)

[@ajithfernando1702]

Didn't explain the discrepancy in korp's suicide attempt. Oh shit 🤔😤

[@thechloechronicles9688]

Why was Joe allowed to say goodbye?

[@Aryasvitkona]

Very complicated and delicate circumstances around presumption of innocence (at that time he was only being charged with her attempted murder, not convicted of it) and that it was the courts opinion that she was trying to make it work, and that were she given the option she would have wanted him to say goodbye. We can debate if those conclusions were the right ones to make, but they are reasonable in their logic.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

"Korp" means "Raven" in Swedish

[@roygoss7556]

I think Julian needs some accolades. Talk about level thinking during a tense situation.

[@Cool-Aid5564]

Steve thought Tonya was joking after she had told him about the 24 sleeping pills. That's how that sounded.

[@dylanjwicklund92]

I think she did it on her own but one thing that doesnt make sense is how did joe get the blood covered wedding ring earrings and then the necklace as maria was wearing it when she was killed by tanya but she says joe gabe her those items to get rid of? I think she is just crazy and was mad he wasnt leaving his wife

[@chicagogyrl4846]

Why in the world do they need a 5 bedroom mansion??!

[@thecatatemyhomework]

They might have felt they needed it. And if they didn't need it, it's their business and their money. They earned it, they can do what they want with it.

[@brendajstevens3719]

👏👏👏

[@cherylmoore3349]

Interesting story disturbing 😳

[@maggiefitzgerald1276]

What genius thought a restraining order was a good idea. A piece of paper against a dangerous and possibly armed person.

[@thedisabledwelshman9266]

fessed up?

[@texastea5686]

I was feeling bad at first, until I found out she was a homewrecker.

[@thecatatemyhomework]

So you think her punishment should be a vicious murder?

[@aikaterineillt9876]

Damn, turned in and betrayed by your own brother

[@jessicas3207]

Are you saying you would protect your murderous sibling? 🤨🤔

[@JustMe-uc1lt]

He absolutely did the right thing.

[@86crud]

Don’t give your brother such a heavy burden in this world. She betrayed him first.

[@mikelittle1715]

Hmmm Marsha who could not convict the most guilty man in the US of murder has "keen" investigative skills? I like your podcast but really question your reality.

[@Coreyseyes11]

Looking for something serious Starts swinging ok

[@ajithfernando1702]

I didn't know this fact about Maria. She destroyed another marriage to marry Joe. Now I don't feel all that sad for her. I live in the area of Greenvale. Thanks for all the details. Learned a lot of new things.

[@nylagaston1418]

wow what a great human being you are, she did nothing to deserve that.

[@ajithfernando1702]

@@nylagaston1418 to deserve what?

[@lizcarr1330]

Ajith Fernando you have learned nothing, the woman was murdered and you don't feel very sorry for that. Idiot

[@lizcarr1330]

Correction, almost murdered.

[@ajithfernando1702]

@@lizcarr1330 oh yes I learned a lot. More than what I knew about the case. I go past the other woman's house nearly every day. Not that I don't feel bad for Maria. There is a bit more to this story than what is out there. The house they built is also very nice. Of course what happened to her was very tragic. Sorry if my comment upset you. I did not know that particular fact about their marriage. Hope I am not an idiot 😊

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

I'm coming back as a female. You literally can practically get away with murder.

[@AhriOfAstora]

Or more likely end up as a victim

[@lunagoodhart5489]

Practically. Just ask Nicole Kessinger (Chris Watts mistress) for any tips. We can not only get away with it but we'll have someone else doing time for the crime.

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

@@AhriOfAstora nope more males are killed annually

[@FireRising86]

And yet they’re the oppressed ones, ya know

[@carolball5764]

@@PoetofHateSpeechby other males !!

[@christinaperrigo]

They were equally as guilty. A Godly marriage does not come from sexual immorality. ... ... God Bless You All In Truth and Repentance. - In Christ, Christina

[@arangojuanp]

Thank you!