A terrible discovery leads to an ongoing mystery

[@CalmPupsandNatureSounds]

If someone texted me to take care of their dogs, i would immediately check on their welfare. Wtf.

[@CustomerService-k5s]

head shaking moment for sure. I am not saying I would know what to think at that moment but not at least trying to make a phone call? The guy is a dunce or lazy for sure.

[@DamienTHEDESTROYER]

No you wouldn't for the fact they could have just be gone a day or two and during those two days their animals would need to be fed and watered

[@janetgood6332]

@@DamienTHEDESTROYER sure, but then you would expect follow up and a return date and more information. If someone asked me to watch their dogs, and I didn't hear from them again, I would definitely think there was a real problem.

[@WVgrl59]

Oh yes. ​@@janetgood6332

[@gavtronics]

They didn't even take care of the dogs, considering the pets died of starvation.

[@roadwarrior528]

He could have just NOT killed them, and started a new life with some other woman.

[@bunnyluver2176]

Yeah especially most murders of the spouse is because of fights over the kid/s, child support/alimony, or a life insurance policy

[@dantaylor4001]

@bunnyluver2176 agreed but I firmly believe that all murders are senseless acts generated from pure selfishness.

[@SG-pu3rx]

​@@dantaylor4001nahh not at all, self defense murders exist and are completely justified

[@MR-pv7qg]

This is hardly a podcast! It's MASTERPIECE!!!! Should have millions of views ❤ Where are you people?

[@ezmay89]

They mostly listen on Spotify and other podcast players. But I'm a KZbin diehard 😁😂

[@MR-pv7qg]

@@ezmay89 great thanks☺

[@GetYourCrayCray-On]

Share a link on your community page,t,ike the video and commenting are top ways to get the word spread!!!

[@anitagoodman9002]

All over watching mike from that chapter lol he is my favorite although I do love this one also

[@reginamcaulay1038]

Yes I was thinking same

[@Estellbel1968]

You should put up a picture of that monster just in case someone will recognize him

[@alanleemaxwell831]

I like to think that a gang of syphilitic grizzly bears are running a train on him, as we speak. What a waste of oxygen....

[@PatriciaGodboutArt]

Me too friend.

[@anitagoodman9002]

That's a very descriptive comment i really like it 😂

[@alanleemaxwell831]

@@anitagoodman9002 I'm at my best when vengeful and vitriolic! 🤣

[@SugarandSarcasm]

_Found his remains over there, there, there and _*_WAAAAAAAY_*_ over there. Very mushy, covered in berries and mixed with fish bones_

[@alanleemaxwell831]

@@SugarandSarcasm a fitting end! 🤣

[@clickityclackity75]

Some predators, are specific to preying on women they can easily manipulate. I’ll never understand how humans can be so vile .

[@ItsJustD1975]

Are you human lol 😝

[@TheWanderingFinnegan]

Are you a voter? Attempting to select people who'll only abuse "those people", but benefitting you.

[@DarkGiratinaGirl666]

I will never understand how women can be so GULLIBLE! I am a woman who grieves over the fact that many women possess such a need for a man in their lives that they are not cautious! They totally ignore that still small voice! As a result, they pay with their very lives!

[@clickityclackity75]

@@DarkGiratinaGirl666 I mostly agree. However, some predators are masters of deception. Some stay hidden during years of partnership only to use their spouse as a means of monetary gain through life insurance etc. The majority of folks, expect the rule of law, to be incentive enough to themselves safe. Unfortunately, those predators don’t abide .

[@RabMcGlinchie]

​@@clickityclackity75true but most don't even have to be masters at deception because they can spot an easy target a mile away, it's our own responsibility not to trust new people in our lives unless they've earned it. Even people we grew up with can't always be trusted, you just can't go through life putting so much faith into others. Unfortunately desperate women don't think like that, victims look for the good in people and very often that unwarranted trust hurts them in the end. And their loved ones. It's not a bad thing to be extra cautious, especially when kids are involved! I don't know if you've ever watched these catfish channels, if not I highly recommend that you watch a few of them to see just how easily predators can manipulate these gullible (mostly) women. Even when there is overwhelming evidence to prove that the person they've been speaking to for years and given their life savings, kids' college funds etc to is just scamming them they still refuse to believe it. Willfully ignorant.

[@veronicaellen4634]

The only part I liked about this story was where Mike was disheveled, weathered and impoverished in the forest. He wasn't exactly a smooth criminal, was he?

[@krismcclellan2546]

T 5:14

[@krismcclellan2546]

😊😊

[@krismcclellan2546]

😊 5:14

[@krismcclellan2546]

😊 5:14

[@Gus_1]

You believe that was him? I'm not convinced.😀

[@gg79139]

Horses, cattle, pigs on 1.5 acres???? I’m a Kansas farm girl, maybe Mormon acres are bigger than they are here

[@MrsLovelyPendragon]

My thinking exactly

[@Bob-Bakley]

Don’t sound right…does it!!!

[@coreencasey5109]

Wouldnt be much room at all for all those animals. 😮

[@Hugefknballs]

Kansas farm girl eh? I reside in Pennsylvania and for some reason, farm ladies are my personal favorite. Maybe because you aren't bitches and hos. My diatribe is done.

[@SRWJ]

Sounds very typical of city folks who want the country lifestyle if you ask me 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@srper2]

I doubt he is dead, likely stole from campsites and made his way elsewhere.

[@jpmchausse]

I lived in Ogden for 14 years. Nadia and Peyton (Payton...????) lived about a mile away. I remember when this case hit the news. The LDS church is very communal and it seemed like everyone knew Mike was trouble but no one talked about it openly.

[@NotTheEx]

So typical of any religious cult, I'm not one bit surprised.

[@zargorex1125]

Q

[@Lindsayx3]

Insane!!

[@Lindsayx3]

I'm convinced this is where Summer Wells ended up.

[@AMYV3]

I find some LDS members look down on others that aren’t a member of their church, NOT all of course Feeling almost a pity because we are all going to hell etc. lol. Oh the irony I find it so interesting, they have absolutely no idea they are in a cult. Do I have pity.. no .. not really. but I do feel sad..sad especially for people/children who’s parents decided for them that they would be taught their beliefs without a REAL choice. Of course there are the obvious reasons but for any church/group that has you give them a % of your earnings, though give very little to local charities and or members in financial trouble (although that’s the impression they give). You’d think that would be a huge red flag to anyone. And then there are the youth that go on missions to recruit other Poor souls .. why. The real reason more $$$$$$$. Like COME ONNNNNN 😳🤭🤫 I’m so glad churches are seeing declines in membership.. idk why .. it helps people have access to the internet to do research and get answers they may have. More children leaving their small towns to move to more populated areas where they have a chance to see what others do 🤷🏼‍♀️. Interesting

[@senecaburr3292]

I thought it was very well explained with no hiccups. Good Job!

[@Gus_1]

I can't imagine him ending his day's in a forest. His survival instinct is to strong. And there is no real evidence of him in any forest.

[@rjay7019]

Wow😮I grew up an hour from Ogden. It is hard growing up in Utah if your anything other than the Church😢

[@samuelking8718]

Well then join the church then, might do you some good. 😂

[@rjay7019]

@samuelking8718 I joined the OTHER church, I don't believe in cults. Edit: And I moved away.

[@lee5267]

@@rjay7019so you don’t want to be a sister wife 😂😂😂

[@rjay7019]

@switchfoot8813 I moved from Utah 10 years ago so no I didn't hear about that 😳 You forgot the movie Savanah Smiles, Whiffs and The Stand.

[@Hugefknballs]

​@@rjay7019I belong to the church of what's happening now. The mormans creep me the fck out

[@LordMarcus]

Your sound design is really top notch. Your sense for compelling narrative is great, too. This is my first impression of your work, looking forward to diving in to your backlog.

[@mmeduvennet3316]

You're editing is good 👍

[@omarra6781]

I remember this case. I live a couple towns over from Caldwell. It's always so weird to hear your home state being mentioned in crime shows.

[@jimbonner7997]

Especially we in Idaho!! Idahoan born and raised!

[@omarra6781]

@@jimbonner7997 Nice! I wasn't born here but feel like I may as well have been.

[@rneustel388]

I would think you’d just about have enough of Idaho being talked about on national news and true crime shows since November 13, 2022.

[@omarra6781]

@switchfoot8813 Well, THAT'S rather ominous.

[@omarra6781]

@@rneustel388 It gets a little old the longer the cases take. I got bored with the Vallow case after a while. Same with Kohberger. I check in periodically, but I don't follow religiously.

[@Orpilorp]

Hello! It's unbelievable that people can live so falsely. Why didn't he just run away from the three of them when he was found out. Thank you for your podcast.

[@d3l3tes00n]

It blows my mind how some people can be geniuses when it comes to manipulation, but then completely lack any common sense.

[@AnneOhn123]

Um... cause he didn't want to lose his farm...

[@silvermainecoons3269]

@@AnneOhn123. Are you defending this POS?

[@brandyjean7015]

I have always hoped that Mother Nature bested him.

[@allysonlewis1576]

He won’t be dead. People like that always find a way to survive. God help his next victim

[@danrobinson572]

They gave up the search for him to quickly. He’s probably living in Canada 🇨🇦 or elsewhere.

[@MR-pv7qg]

Hopefully Not!!!

[@annalisette5897]

Interesting that it is reported that dogs and cats "starved to death" in about 10 days. That is extremely unlikely though perhaps without enough water, they could have dehydrated in the heat. In a state of actual starvation, some among the dogs and cats would have scavenged those that had already died, thus obtaining adequate nutrition. Rabbits on the other hand would be more at risk from lack of food or water and they survived. There are some oddities in the story and not much follow up online.

[@ClaudiaKoltsTheDarkBunny]

I was thinking the same thing, especially because dogs and cats could probably scavenge off each other before they died, and bunnies could not. Bunnies are also just so sensitive.

[@brandyjean7015]

It was definitely death from dehydration.

[@Lindsayx3]

​@@brandyjean7015had to have been....

[@haydencooper_]

I found it an oddity that she was struggling to pay the mortgage yet chose to have so many animals, that would cut into the savings a bit.

[@copeseethedilate]

I find it bizarre the snake didn't eat the rabbits lol. Maybe it was a small one.

[@GetYourCrayCray-On]

And one snake....awwsss!!!! Storytellers d ont forget our fur and non fur babies in a story anytime!!

[@JerrySpoonpuncher]

Recently found your channel and I am very glad I did

[@joannejackson4099]

Just found your channel it’s great love from Uk 🇬🇧 x

[@Gus_1]

Hello I'm a fellow Brit. Nice to know I'm not alone. Its my first time here too.😀🇬🇧

[@joannejackson4099]

@@Gus_1 hi where you from in Uk I love all these channels

[@Gus_1]

@@joannejackson4099 Hi, I'm in Staffordshire. I recommend Mr Ballen, he has a quirky style. And They got away with murder.

[@JulieRushworth]

Hi all, I'm from Newcastle x

[@megdel8]

My new favorite podcast. I live longer episodes to listen to during my workouts ❤

[@lisamontgomery99]

FYI, and please don't take this as critical. At least in the US, a massage parlor is for sex workers Massage therapy at a spa is typically reputable. Great story! As a former massage therapist, I had to make that clear Thank you

[@chrisward1691]

Yes, I picked up on that term too. If she'd become a sex worker I'm sure it would have been made plainer in the story and it was originally described as massage therapy. By the way, "massage parlour" is also the term for a brothel in Australia too.

[@anitagoodman9002]

It's generally the same terminology here in NZ also

[@rneustel388]

@switchfoot8813Wow, that’s pretty presumptive of you.

[@dragonsky799]

​@switchfoot8813What the fk is wrong with you? That comment was so disrespectful. Smfh

[@PatriciaGodboutArt]

Why is the LDS church involved in so much family violence and after the chad and Lori fiasco, wtf, is going on in this church? I know many lovely people who belong to this church. I understand, as I was raised Catholic. I am also appalled at the sins of my church though I have not been active for over 30 years.

[@LinnicBee]

Abusers tend to flock to institutions that will help them cover their abuse. Male abusers especially like religious institutions because their need to feel in total control of a household is supported by the church. Also Some churches tend to try privately counseling their members before reporting anything (if they report stuff at all). The LDS has a long history of trying to bury abuse.

[@aishalea7508]

i also note the prevalence of LDS members in cults n heinous crimes. seems definitely disproportionate to the % of population they are!!

[@PatriciaGodboutArt]

My thoughts too or is it just Utah- Idaho something in the drinking water?

[@natalieh4354]

Thankyou as always, Saturday night complete 👍..

[@MM-uv6kb]

This was absolutely brilliant! Thank you

[@rhondamcewananderson3968]

Really great, as always!!

[@myfirstnamemylastname2994]

When will women and Society understand that if someone is beating you they are not your family anymore. Just because you married them thinking you'd be family for life they are not your family forever if what day do to you proves that they don't have that same caring and obligation toward you. You married an illusion and you need to leave. You are not abandoning a family member that you swore to love forever you're abandoning The Stranger they've been all along. And likewise once someone starts beating or badly of using a family member especially if it's a marriage partner people should no longer regard them as family. Police should investigate and prosecutors to prosecute whatever they do as if they were perfect strangers. Yes assaults and murderers wouldn't be considered quite the same as if they attacked someone in Cold Blood but honestly if you murdered a neighbor because you had an argument with them it might be murdered two instead of murder one but it would be murder. Likewise an assault would still be an assault. But when you are married to someone and it's regarded as a family illness, family problem, family conflict than it is not treated as a violent crime that it is! Nor all-too-often does the victim see it as the same crime they would if they were not already married to the criminal. We need to train ourselves and those potential victims out of that mindset. If the person you married appears to be a stranger now, they are a stranger and the person you thought you married never existed. They may do anything to you and they may not be prevented from it or investigated properly afterwards because it will be regarded as a family dispute or a climb of passion related to conflict between family members. It's nothing of the kind.

[@chrisward1691]

Sounds like she did pursue all avenues for correcting his behaviour and saving the marriage until he was uncooperative and she divorced him. Given that she was young and this would have been new to her, I think she did a reasonable job of addressing the problem.

[@7hilladelphia]

True as true can be.

[@jr7845]

When will men stop using women as punch bags? and sexual.objects?

[@wildgr33n]

my guess is being older he thought he could survive/hide out in the woods and died out there from an accident/exposure.

[@millie9236]

Why "being older"?

[@sinkingslowlywithasmile]

OMG this just came across I didn't pay attention to name but it's casefile one of my favorite I didn't even realize there was a KZbin and as I've been binging stories on KZbin I'm so glad to hear your voice here it's one of my favorite ever

[@m118lr]

Hmmmmmmm..a rundown “FARM”..of 1.5 acres..? Ok. There’s SO MUCH wrong with this story, not only with the morals and ethics and SERIOUSLY screwed-up behavior of “Mike”..but ALSO with the MISrepresentation of a “large” property in Caldwell, Idaho..consisting of 1.5 acres and homes EITHER side just FEET away..

[@loredanadincu4300]

Oh, so the morals of the lady that wanted her mortgage paid by a guy she just knew for a year were fine.

[@loredanadincu4300]

@user-oz3cl6fq3k you can say his wife did. She didn't know about anything .

[@loredanadincu4300]

@user-oz3cl6fq3k Nadia didn't care enough about her own child, she went head first in a relationship with an older stranger guy that selled her stories. If she didn't cared enough. Who you want to do that instead of her. Mike's wife like the narator said , more than likely didn't knew anything about his affair and when she found out he killed her.

[@anitagoodman9002]

​@@loredanadincu4300I don't count wanting someone else to pay your mortgage a moralistic thing

[@loredanadincu4300]

@@anitagoodman9002 it is sweety even you like it or not

[@kellygarsed2561]

Sounds familiar "Chad & Lorry Daybell?"

[@mmeduvennet3316]

Wow I live in California and someone wanted me to buy property in Caldwell to rent to college students😮 didn't do it I'm glad

[@texastea5686]

This was the FIRST podcast I heard from Case Files

[@junederksen9205]

Mormon is no more a Christian faith then is Hindu. Always surprises me when it’s still said.

[@AngieAitch]

Thank you x

[@jackiebeh6702]

Thanks so much…❤

[@eja1022]

Have you done a video about the case of Darlie Routier?

[@AmyLewis-ui9kq]

It breaks my heart when animals starve to death, they are helpless 😢

[@hmmmmmmmmno]

Does anyone know if Case File has covered the Bain family murders yet?

[@clickityclackity75]

Love this episode !

[@mim0381]

The LDS isn't a branch of the Christian church. They differ significantly in several areas to mainstream Christianity.

[@gg79139]

Mormons are not christians

[@MichelleJensen-io3il]

We most definitely are Christians, we believe in Jesus Christ, please do not make false statements when you haven't even done any research.

[@kaceyparrott2630]

my❤

[@je7055]

What's "the Christian church?"

[@PatriciaGodboutArt]

Perfect description of my thoughts too. God bless.

[@inuchan74]

Idk why its so confusing to people that the animals were dead within 10 days. With NO water, cats and dogs will die within about 3 days. Sooner if they're already mildly dehydrated. Dogs can go about 5 days without food, and cats about 12, as long as they have water. They wouldnt be surviving by eating the ither animals who dird first because theyd all be in similar stages of dehydration - severe dehydration is really painful and the body stops digesting food at that point, so even if some tried they wouldn't be able to live any longer than the others.

[@louiseharraway2599]

i think hes still alive, living in another Country with a change of appearance. With another woman. He wont be dead.

[@rneustel388]

Maybe in Mexico or somewhere in Central America.

[@JulieRushworth]

Ive found a common thread amongst these tradgedies, women dnt take a lot of time between relationships, its good to heal oneself before diving in to a new relationship. Very well narrated and researched My thoughts being with Payton and Nadjas loved ones

[@FreebornLivingWoman]

Good on Nadia for having the courage to speak up for herself and Peyton. Heartbreaking that Michael didnt support the progress of their relationship initially........ And then I listened to the rest of this story 😢😢😢😢 Psychpath is being polite.

[@damienhunt4264]

"..live it the way you want to." Isn't that exactly what Mike did?

[@Maligroot]

Thanks Mate 👍

[@mariannedelwo9842]

I repeat the last comment, mormonism is NOT a branch of Christianity.

[@Mr_Fairdale]

Mormonism isn’t a branch of Christianity Edited to add (since my replies mysteriously disappear here): Mormonism still isn't a branch of Christianity.

[@barbarajohnson3876]

All religions are made for man, by man

[@jturtle5318]

Do they not pray to Jesus? Define "Christianity".

[@Mr_Fairdale]

@@jturtle5318 they, in fact, do not. Mormonism rejects Trinitarian doctrine and the very nature of Jesus Christ. This, along with other aspects of Mormonism, makes labeling it a “branch of Christianity” impossible.

[@Bob-Jenkins]

​@@jturtle5318"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), informally known as the Mormon Church." "Come Closer to Jesus Christ through Study of the Book of Mormon. Get an introduction to the Book of Mormon with missionaries. We’ll help you deepen your understanding of Jesus by reading more of His word. Then continue learning with us in your home, online, and at church." So they'll teach us his nonsense, but pray to the dude… for the love of Dog, don't go and do that otherwise that's one eternity in hell for you. Plus there's that whole polygamy thing going on, so more wives and one will come harder… I mean closer to Jesus. Just don't get any in his hair. 😮

[@sickntired553]

Same scat different shovel! 🇭🇲

[@jesusfreak996]

Mormonism has Nothing to do with Christianity

[@lisabelle7553]

I love Case files podcast, but I do feel like on the KZbin channel, it's a bit lazy to not include photographs and available video in this day and age. This case is horrific, even just hearing about how the animals suffered and died from starvation is tragic enough...let alone the murder of three women. I hope this POS is caught and brought to Justice!

[@mimi5769]

Where is this accent from? Southern USA? New Zealand? Some parts of the UK? As a non-native English speaker i can't understand some words and i have to use subtitles in this channel sometimes ahah

[@lisabelle7553]

He's Australian.

[@mimi5769]

@@lisabelle7553 thank youuu

[@jerrymarshall2095]

Sue the cops for trying to apprehend a mass murderer,typical of the disordered thinking of people today.

[@Lindsayx3]

I thought the same thing!!!! I mean I'm sure they would be upset, as they had a little girl with them but still..... Chill out ppl!!

[@m118lr]

I’d want AN EXPLANATION for being HELD AT GUNPOINT… for an HOUR! Who wouldn’t?!

[@loredanadincu4300]

Mass what? Is a serial killer not a mass murder clown. That means something else.

[@jerrymarshall2095]

@@loredanadincu4300 u call him what u want sister,or brother what ever blows your hair back

[@jerrymarshall2095]

@@m118lr the cops are investigating a crime and don't have give u the details,it's self-evident what's going on I'm sure the snow cones pieced that much together,I hope.Obviously it was a serious situation and the cops weren't looking for a J walker,They usually have a reason if they don't inform some entitled lib of all the heinous crimes the sought after villain is being sought for Hell theyd would probably sue the cops for scaring the hell out of em if they did tell,prob never go to a park again get xanex for PTSD and go live in an hollowed out tree somewhere.

[@sidbobby3233]

Thank u just going to bed after sitting up with alnight with r sick dog so this wilk be a nice treat. 😎😎✌✌👌👌👍👍 frm the UK

[@natalieh4354]

Hope your dog is ok ❤

[@margaretbanks8969]

Hope dogs ok. Don't tell my cat I said that.

[@emperorpatrisia5771]

1. I hope your dog is ok. 2. I thought you were going to say you were up all night unable to sleep due to how scary this was.

[@tessaducek5601]

Is pup doing better? 🤞🤗

[@shionaherbert3088]

Hope you and pup are doing well.

[@billesommer4636]

What a great time with u👍👍👍 Guess the sociopaths have a way out as usual..😎

[@joannathemadd]

So much family annihilation in the Mormon circles

[@loredanadincu4300]

What you don't get genius Mike was married, Sheryl was his wife and his real name was Jared or whatever. Nadia was the side chick.

[@thomasdouglas4943]

I used to live in caldwell

[@sissyrayself7508]

So did I. May son lives there now..my adult son..and.so does my grandson.

[@xcape2usa]

I don't get why information would be withheld. Unbelievable. I hard earned $$$ at work.

[@knotjusthooked]

Profound words for such a young girl😢

[@skybox5743]

Im 10 minutes in and i dont know if this is a real life true crime or a creepypasta

[@chasinmiracles7113]

Wish these slimy people came with warning labels... They are the very worst kind of evil.

[@queensarah5945]

I often hear Ogden described as a small community. Its actually huge.

[@michaelc3051]

Yes, he’s definitely a psychopath and cunning enough to fake his own death in the forest. He could well be living somewhere else, taking advantage of other women.

[@chicagogyrl4846]

This man is taking them on vacations and her kid is calling him Dad, and he says that the relationship is moving too fast 😂🤣

[@loredanadincu4300]

You missed the part we're she asked him to pay her mortgage. Typically .

[@rneustel388]

@@loredanadincu4300Her mortgage, you mean.

[@loredanadincu4300]

@rneustel388 that's what I wrote. Change your f glasses

[@rneustel388]

@@loredanadincu4300 Your comment presently reads “…she asked him to pay his mortgage.” Forget get it, though. My glasses work just fine.,

[@loredanadincu4300]

@rneustel388 all the input you had to give after watching the video is to correct someone in the comment section that mistakenly wrote him instead of her. You must me a miserable pathetic s.

[@btstakescareofmewhenimsick4892]

Wait... Gerald was into Hinduism, but loved guns, and hunting? Ummmm. Ok.

[@itsjustmekinsey]

tell me you didn't listen to the podcast without telling me you didn't listen to the podcast ;)

[@btstakescareofmewhenimsick4892]

@@itsjustmekinsey i obviously wrote this comment as soon as i heard that, not after listening to the whole story 🙄

[@Lindsayx3]

​@@btstakescareofmewhenimsick4892.....bts takes care of you when you're sick? Initially I thought it said btk.... .....strange user name. I get a Munchausen's vibe from this. Forgive me for openly sharing such a judgemental & unnecessary comment. .... I'm sure I cannot be the only one in the true crime community that has felt the similar personal opinion. ...your reply to the other user about it being 'obvious' that your post was written before you finished the episode is why I felt the need to leave you one... Obviously. It would be obvious if you added that you in fact, were still listening to it. That's what I do, obviously. 🙄

[@susanh1292]

Maybe he was a hypocrite? Many people don't really follow their religion correctly.

[@unmuddywaters4602]

I’d file suit if my family, including my young child were basically detained at gunpoint by God knows how many officers. That’s traumatic and violates civil rights to the point of almost being terroristic. Understanding that they had reason to believe they may be stopping a violent and dangerous man; there was no need to drag out identifying the occupants for over an hour at gunpoint🤨

[@chicagogyrl4846]

This woman was 47, and he was in his late 50”s. INo relevant age difference here, and saying that she met an “older man” when she is 47 made me laugh. 😂🤣

[@loredanadincu4300]

It was still 13 years difference you clown. You aren't that smart aparently.

[@anitagoodman9002]

That is an older man in my book with roughly ten years on her any more than ten years would possibly be a much older man

[@sissyrayself7508]

Nah.. Not really an " older man". ​@@anitagoodman9002

[@terridemaio7334]

Wow just came Across this

[@happyheidi747]

SPOILER ALERT GOOGLE HIS NAME FOR THE LATEST ON MIKE , IT WAS POSTED 6 JANUARY 2023

[@betsyjohnson9699]

Everything in me wants to give him a hug 😢

[@RangoSledge]

I dont think you know what interstate means

[@chicagogyrl4846]

This man takes them on vacations, and she wants him to help pay her mortgage too??!! 😂🤣

[@buzzkillington1719]

Why not He was enjoying her company and she was making him happy so what’s the problem

[@morticiaheisenberg9679]

They were a couple for 18 months and the daughter was calling him Dad. It seemed like the relationship was serious. Seems reasonable in that amount of time to move in together. Or if he could help. It wasn't like they were dating 18 days.

[@sissyrayself7508]

Why not?

[@ladyhonor822]

😱🕊️🇺🇲👍👍☦️🐈📿🧬🧬🧬🫀🌸🌼🩰⛵🌺🌼 I'm sorry, I'M ADDICTED TO THE STORIES 🐱

[@ladyhonor822]

Philadelphia USA 🇺🇲🕊️🧬🧬🧬📿💘🪖🪖🪖🦚

[@chicagogyrl4846]

A 1 and one-half acre property is not a “farm”!! 😂🤣

[@gritty011]

1.5 acre farm???

[@chicagogyrl4846]

Why in the world would a single retired man buy a 4 bedroom 2 bath house for retirement??!! 😂🤣

[@shawnsutherland7080]

Investment property. 🤷‍♂️

[@kRomani-gh4ws]

This guy's stories are made up

[@anitagoodman9002]

Why not might have large family or a lot of guests etc.

[@sissyrayself7508]

Why not?

[@suhooo]

That guy was skinny & over 60 yrs old! 140 lbs & over 6 feet tall? Many women could have physically taken this coward down unless he had some kind of martial arts training. That’s why he used guns & manipulation.

[@WVgrl59]

Since he was a survival specialist, I bet he had caches all over the forest, just in case, so he could survive.

[@WVgrl59]

He may have even had an underground house

[@PatriciaGodboutArt]

Why is the lids

[@AbigailWest-o6g]

Y'all should listen to case 268 Colleen stan. It's a wild one. Part 1 and 2.

[@darrenbaker6019]

I feel for the Father who had a heart attack - men are so disposable.

[@janlundberg5924]

"The ever growing grass"... yup, it's true, grass grows. 😂

[@cherienafo7676]

I escaped the cult of the christadelphians. There wasn't murder- that I know of, but there was plenty of other wickedness.

[@milieu675]

What's being described is a psychopath not a sociopath

[@aishalea7508]

what a scumbag... such ahorrible case, peytons msg at the end broke my heart 😢

[@susansinclair9554]

😢😢what a dog.

[@adraboranlovesIronman]

Mike was troubled by the questin. As he should have been.

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

That's not a farm house you'd ever see in Utah or Idaho. More like Iowa.

[@bbrd876]

Add pics, videos to make this reporting more interesting; otherwise a tat boring. IMO

[@rosemiller8425]

Confusing

[@williamfoley5687]

I like the American accents in the US

[@pleaseenteranamelol711]

The amount of ads is disruptive and unconscionable.

[@chicagogyrl4846]

You’ve been dating this man for 18 months. If he wanted to help you pay your bills, he would have a long time ago!! 😂🤣

[@sissyrayself7508]

Not necessasirly.

[@ThugShakers4Christ]

Nadja, where's your Dawkins now?

[@judylivingston8145]

Waaaay too slow a pace of speaking...cannot keep my attention at all