As you mentioned Casey, the app should allow a more precise voltage for shutoff in 0.1 volt increments instead of 1volt increments. This would protect the vehicle battery from life shorting deep discharge below 12 volts. If Ecoflow would allow the unit to be adjusted to lets say 12.5 volts for example the vehicle battery would have a much longer life. Keep up your great videos 😀
@chrisdoeseverything1237 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say thank for you this video. It answered a lot of my questions. As a result I bought a ecoflow delta 2 with the alternator charger since they had a $600 off sale for the pair for Father's day (also came with a 100W solar panel) and I used your code. Hope this helps you. I have a 2003 Ford E350 Amulance that I converted to a campervan. I have the same issue with the battery dying after sitting for too long. I originally use a 500W Jackery that does not have nearly this many options and charges super slow. Excited to start using this new system!
@hardtruth20398 ай бұрын
We just picked up the delta 2 max, an extra battery and the 800w alternator charger on a great Mother’s Day deal. Saved $1149.
@joshbrown2846 ай бұрын
I love this thought process it makes me chuckle You didn't save 1149 You just got the equipment at a lower price You still spent a bunch of money You didn't save anything
@logophile5 ай бұрын
@@joshbrown284 You are a bundle of joy, aren't you.
@judasblewit4 ай бұрын
@@joshbrown284 I love jealous comments.
@StartBuildingYourDreams8 ай бұрын
Definitely cool! I see great value for that person that is an avid outdoorsman, off-roader, or overlander that doesn’t want a permanent install or to leave valuable equipment in their vehicle while at work. Personally I have 2x100AH Li house batteries and a Renogy 50A DC-DC Controller w/mppt for my Gladiator. My fridge runs 24/7 and have a 1000w inverter. It’s totally overkill, unless I start taking a microwave, hairdryer, or air fryer on trips, but cost less than most 1000w power stations on the market to assemble. The trade off for a fixed system is “dedicated adventure vehicle” vs using a gladiator as a truck to haul lumber, mulch etc. This definitely seems to bridge that gap for the 90% that use their vehicles for more than adventuring! Great video!
@ob1828 ай бұрын
Great video. Convinced me to upgrade my Ecoflow setup in my jeep. Thanks for the discount code. With Ecoflow sale and your code it was a deal I couldn’t pass up!👍
@jacobsmithjr8 ай бұрын
You explained this system better than Ecoflow! I'm glad Ecoflow came out with this system. I like this idea better than solar panels or the Smart Generator!
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@Dave_Gurman8 ай бұрын
Great video. Though this is not a game changer, just a improvement (Ecoflow product only) on using an converter from your alternator. Victron has a few DC2DC CONVERTER options which also works. Pecron has a cheaper option (though only 500W) it can be used on all power stations.
@Irideonandon8 ай бұрын
I have a DC to DC charger and they absolutely do not operate like this. I'm amazed people with DC to DC chargers are not able to see the difference. This is a game changer but only the start of changes to come in the near future.
@Dave_Gurman8 ай бұрын
@Irideonandon I said DC converter there's a difference. You're correct though looking forward to a generic plug in product with these functions that can charge any power station.
@zachc29752 ай бұрын
I have a victron. ive failed 3 of them in 3 years. theyre trash. Just ordered this and im hopeful it will last much longer. I got it for $199 for black friday!
@johntate52848 ай бұрын
I'm glad someone reviewed this and EcoFlow had some killer bundles with a Delta 2 or Delta 2 max where you get this for almost free. Pecron offers a nice alternative ($134) that is 500 watt and works with any power station as the output is via MC4 connectors so it goes into the solar input (only power stations with a solar input voltage up to 60 VDC) of most brands (Except Jackery unless you have an MC4 to funky Jackery barrel connector adapter).
@markbergman23428 ай бұрын
do you have more details of that Pecron DCDC?
@johntate52848 ай бұрын
@@markbergman2342 I got mine. The only real setting is a rotary switch that determines when it will send power to your power station. By default it is set to [0] which is 12 to 30 volts. I set mine to [4], which is 13.5V to 17V to ensure that the car battery is never discharged by accident. The biggest difference is that the Eco Flow one is bi-directional and can recharge the car battery which is something the Pecron doesn't do. The Eco Flow is also more efficient. By itself, the Eco Flow one is quite steep, it's almost free with some of the Eco Flow promotions going on the the Delta 2 and Delta 2 Pro.
@hdloghome3 ай бұрын
Casey you are very Helpful with the eco flo alternator generator, i just got mine today and i an having a hard time making it work .
@VideoShowMeHowАй бұрын
14:00 Good trick to override the smart alternator is just turn your headlights on; on almost every vehcile this will keep the alternator 'on'. You def want to keep that switch on setting to around 13v. People also really need to check their alternator size from factory, 76amps is a heap, some rigs will only have a 90amp alternator for example, pulling 76amps as well as everything the car needs from fry that sucker super fast.
@miniharez8 ай бұрын
I got lucky and ordered it for $399! I can’t wait for it to come in🤘
@sweetbeep5 ай бұрын
Update?
@lonniebeal24454 ай бұрын
I just paid $216
@sweetbeep4 ай бұрын
@@lonniebeal2445 where?
@elmateo4873 ай бұрын
@@lonniebeal2445from where? I’d love that price
@Givemesomeyardwork3 ай бұрын
Where
@dru243348 ай бұрын
how hot did the unit get while max charging (in either direction)? Likely needs open air flow when mounting?
@texasgrillchef85813 ай бұрын
This going to be my setup when I finally get everything in. It’s on order. The alternator charger, delta pro 3, when at home… I always plug into “shore” power. I will put the charger into battery maintenance mode. The ac power will recharge my ecoflow and simultaneously keep my fridge running, and trickle charge my starter battery. I have an engine block heater that only pulls 500 watts, the fridge only pulls 100 watts when running on 12v, and the battery maintenance only pulls 100 watts. So when plugged into shore power in the winter. It will provide power to all the items, and still charge at 800 watts! Of course the alternator charger will run the fridge, and charge the ecoflow. No need for block heater or battery Maintenance. In the cold cold winter time. Running errands going to the movie. The ecoflow will have enough power to run battery maintenance and the engine block heater for a couple of hours. When I’m back to the vehicle it can go back to charging the ecoflow!
@Casey2503 ай бұрын
Thats slick. That was kind of what I was thinking for my Jeep as it doesn't get driven that often.
@lyfandeth8 ай бұрын
Paying $600 for a charge controller with the proprietary plug that allows an Ecoflow to be charged at a reasonable rate is extortion. Ecoflow really could just tell us what input terminals will accept the more powerful DC charge. The normal limit of 10A is simply ridiculous. Even a USB-C 3.1 PD wall wart can supply more than the Ecoflow normally will accept.
@crazy-eyewoodguy44898 ай бұрын
Guys I'm going to say this because I'm sure Casey probably cant....With a $150 dollar 1000 watt pure sign wave inverter added to your Jeep you can charge any power station at 1000 watts instead of just 800 watts for 599.00....Sorry but they lost me on this when I saw it was 599.00 EDIT: After watching the full video, Thanks for putting this out for everyone to see. I have the Delta 2Max and the wave 2 love them both. I wish they would add a remote switch or wire so you can turn it on or off with a switch pod or just a mechanical switch that would easily solve the power drain problem. Also I believe you can use the DC to DC cord to charge the Wave 2's battery....Eco flow sells a kit with it all together-- wave 2, the add on battery and the charger, it would be a shame if they didn't work together. I dont believe you can run the AC and charge at the same time... I just ordered the $130.00 Cable to run my wave 2 off the Delta max from DC....If I cant do that I'll be sending EVERYTHING back ...surely they had the foresight for that. Anyway thanks for the content you're one of my favorite channels!!!
@Big_Mafuta8 ай бұрын
Have look at this. I went the inverter route before this was available. PECRON 500W Car Charger DC1242-500 for Cars, RVs, Trucks, etc.
@wt96538 ай бұрын
Pecron makes a 500 watt alternator charger for 149. New for 2024. Very simply made. No fancy Bluetooth and wifi.
@joeblow19428 ай бұрын
Well, I guess the thing being able to reverse charge and trickle charge makes it worthwhile.
@joeblow19428 ай бұрын
Also, I couldn’t charge my Delta 1300 using the inverter method you described. Don’t remember now why it wouldn’t work though.
@wt96538 ай бұрын
@joeblow1942 600 dollars for reverse and trickle charging? Why don't you carry a brick sized jump starter instead of depleting the power station? If you're at home, why would you leave the power station on for days and weeks at a time just to trickle charge the battery? How are you charging the power station a while depleting it? Just use a regular trickle charger or solar controller on your jeep.
@PFDish3 ай бұрын
Yes please do an update review on the 800W. I hope they go on sale.
@cathyandronnieshealthyjour56796 күн бұрын
Very new to all this. So after turning off the vehicle do I need to unplug the alternator charger from my EcoFlow delta 2 so it doesn’t drain the engine battery or is there a built in off/on inside the alternator charger. I have a EcoFlow delta 2 being delivered and I’m thinking of installing the EcoFlow alternator charger.Sorry just learning
@Casey2506 күн бұрын
The alternator charger will shut off when your cars battery drops below the voltage you set.
@marceld6061Ай бұрын
I would love to know the path you chose for running that cable through your Jeep. Did you cross over to the steering wheel side or run straight under the tub somehow?
@thefpvlife77854 ай бұрын
With an external power queen battery, two simple XT60(I) cables can charge your EF at 380w. 185w per cable with the newer dual inputs on the EF.
@dennisjohnson52713 ай бұрын
I have a Bluetti AC200max and the ecoflow Delta 2max. I use a small cheap pure sine wave 12volt dc/120 volt AC inverter to connect to vehicle battery. This way I can use 900 watt pv input and Bluetti charging brick to charge the Bluetti. Then I plug my delta2 max into 120 volt AC outlet on AC 200max which charges my delta at around 1600 watts in a little over 1 hour. The beauty is I can now have 1900 watts of PV (solar) input to both units at same time . Using both PV inputs, on sunny days, I can charge both units in about 2 hours to full power with 4 solar panels at 450 watts each. Also, I can now use the Bluetti to power everything but Air conditioning and run portable AC or my Ecoflow wave off the Delta 2 max. You can do this with any brand solar battery/inverter unit.
@PFDish3 ай бұрын
Best video on KZbin on how to charge the Delta 2. I just bought two of these yesterday for home power outages. Didn’t know how I was going to charge them during outage. With this I can charge one while I use the other. I have a 2019 Jeep Cherokee with a 180 watt alternator. Does that sound like it would work? Sorry I’m in my 70’s and my mind is slowing down. So can I just let my Jeep idle while it charges or do I have to drive?
@KingdomUploader3 ай бұрын
Does the unit itself have a display and can i engage with all the settings? I ask bc, despite all their wonderfulness, i just don't do phones nor apps. Thanks
@Casey2503 ай бұрын
No. You really should use the app to manage it
@KingdomUploader3 ай бұрын
@@Casey250 well that's disheartening. Actually i'm new at all of this. idk which power station i need actually. Is Ecoflow the b*omb or are what are some other big brands i can look at? Got a handy beginners video? Thanks
@zachc29752 ай бұрын
@@KingdomUploader you may just look into redarc or just do a genesis dual battery system. especially if you dont have a phone.
@KingdomUploader2 ай бұрын
Unless my info is inaccurate, there is a workaround with the delta 2 max unit itself. Without the app i just lose the xboost feature - and any essential firmware updates can be found on the website. i can load them onto a thumb drive, plug that into the delta 2, hold down 2 buttons, which puts the Max in update-mode, and install. Is all that true? Thanks
@jmvreest8 ай бұрын
Awesome.. this will work well with where and how I roll 🤘
@thekat95934 ай бұрын
Also consider when running the alternator charger, vehicle alternators do not put full charge at idle so to get the full 800 watt output, you need to rev up the rpm,s a little, and the last truck I had with a throttle cable was a 68 Dodge Power Wagon…..cut a stick I guess….
@666wilf5 ай бұрын
Do these alternator chargers work on all EcoFlow or just the Delta 2?
@Casey2505 ай бұрын
The Delta 2's with expansion ports.
@warpedbish-z3z19 күн бұрын
I wonder how it measures the voltage, because these smart RAM / Jeep alternators very rarely drop to 13V or below. They do like to drop to like 13.5-13.9 after a while, and I wonder if the Ecoflow registers that as 13V. Like Michael said, there should be 0.1 increments, or at least 0.5. Setting it to 12V would be too sketchy for me (again, unless they mean it shuts off when it detects a voltage of 12.x, thus disabling the second it drops to 12.9 or lower). A car battery isn't fully charged at 12.0V. It's likely still enough to start, but not good for your battery and if the Ecoflow shuts off at 12.0, that means it did run off of your car battery. That being said, if it can reverse charge, idk if any of this really matters...
@cyclemoto87447 ай бұрын
DIY install with components (can be made portable) costs half the price. THose who don't have the skills, sure these products are good ideal but otherwise their not economical nor are they serviceable. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
@RogerLaPointe-v3m8 ай бұрын
Could the six gauge wire be cut to add Anderson connectors if I use this with a pick up truck and a truck camper so I could disconnect it when I take the camper off?
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
Totally. I don't see why shortening them would not work as long as the Anderson is rated for the amperage the charger needs.
@RogerLaPointe-v3m8 ай бұрын
@@Casey250. I would not necessarily be shortening them because the Ecoflow and charger would be in the truck camper. It would just be a way to be able to disconnect when i take the camper off the truck.
@vegaswon16 ай бұрын
@user-jo4lr8it6p When you order your Anderson connector you can order the correct size contact to go with your wire size. Then 50 amp connectors can be ordered with up to a size 6 AWG contact. The 75 connectors can use 4 AWG contacts. Just double check which connectors work with which contacts. The different color connectors only work with the same color on both ends except for grey and black. Double check that also. Also be careful that the connector description actually says made by Anderson brand because there are lots of connectors that look the same but are not Anderson and may allude to being Anderson..
@carlosdclaveria79407 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video, my question is: if I use a battery for a solar panels system,(not an vehicle battery),I can use this two devices to have electrical power, and at the same time recharge the battery?
@Casey2507 ай бұрын
Yes
@wt96538 ай бұрын
I'm not paying 600 dollars for a proprietary Ecoflow only ac charger. I'm not into the Ecoflow eco system. I have a mix of Bluetti, Segway, and Jackery. Thank God Pecron makes one for everyone. 😂 It's only 134.00 after a special coupon. Reverse charging is not needed when you'll never use it. Just carry a Lithium battery jump starter. The trickle charging feature is a gimmick. You're draining the power station unless it's hooked up to solar. If it happens during the night? 😮😂 If you lose the unlock clip. You can use ring pliers
@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk8 ай бұрын
I ordered the Pecron model. Should get here any day now. Ordered on the 10th. It does charge at a slower rate though. 400 watt or so. I will be using mine to charge my … drum roll … EcoFlow delta from a separate lithium battery. That increases my capacity by 1280 watt. And since my old model Delta only charges at 400 watt anyway, it’s a perfect match.
@Wijkkie6 ай бұрын
Victron also have a few solutions to charge them with 400 wattts....
@jasonostack93196 ай бұрын
Those inverters have losses you have to consider as well. The EcoFlow is dc-dc. At the 239 prime day deal, it’s a steal. If you aren’t using other EcoFlow gear, it’s probably not very useful though.
@parkcitymacs8 ай бұрын
I run an ecoflow with smart battery (4kw+). Maybe, I’m missing something but I just use a small compact Honda 3000W (EU3200) generator and it charges them around 2000Watts into the batteries. Generally, less than 2 hours, and I’m good for 2 to 4 more days. It uses so little Gas, it can’t be more than a $1 or more to charge. Super cheap, easy, and fast. The generator is so narrow it fits on the floor between my rear seat, back of by truck in the corner, or in a cubby in a trailer.
@joeblow19428 ай бұрын
Is it the Delta 2 Max that you have? Are you saying you can charge the Delta and expansion battery from 0 to 100% in only two hours?
@parkcitymacs8 ай бұрын
@@joeblow1942 It is never a good idea to run LiPo batteries to zero (0). Sometimes as low as 10 percent sometimes as high as 20 percent …. But yes, about 2 hours plus, sometimes less. The main thing is that they are extremely fast to charge and the ratio of use is about 2 hours of gas generator charging, if we have had ZERO sun; that equates to 2 to 3 days of use which includes multiple microwaves (2 to 4 min each run) Morning and night, multi coffee (KRUPS), theater HomePods (4) speakers running on 110V. with 110V 4K monitor playing up a 4K movie usually a max of one movie at night, lights on… IF there is sun, then I only need 400 Watts on the roof for 5 to 6 hours, March to October, that is and never touch the small Honda EU3000IS generator.
@dubious67188 ай бұрын
Cost more than this, weighs more and takes up more space. You also have to carry fuel.
@parkcitymacs8 ай бұрын
@@dubious6718 More fuel? the EU3200I has a small tank and can run 5 to 8 hours way more efficiently/faster than a huge car engine, sucking far more fuel , adding vehicle hours, at best producing maybe only 1/3 (66 percent more charging time required) the wattage with modifications compared to the small generator. That means you spend significantly more fuel, significantly more time charging, which if you are not driving means your car sits and runs for hours with that large engine to charge those Ecoflow Batteries for much longer. Just a gallon or so in that Honda, means you could charge (2) Ecoflow batteries up to 4 Times giving 8 to 12 days of total time on your Ecoflow. You would run out of food in a car before that. IT’s very light weight , easy to pick up with one arm, and small. It fits on the floor between front seat and the rear seat in trucks or even new Bronco.
@joeblow19428 ай бұрын
@@parkcitymacs And is it the Delta 2 Max that you have?
@texasislovely4 ай бұрын
do you mind showing how you installed it on your battery? there are multiple connection points
@mockery20282 ай бұрын
Can I ask which engine configuration does your Jeep have (the ESS with classic alternator, or the eTorque engine with motor generator and 48v battery in lieu of a traditional alternator)?
@Casey2502 ай бұрын
The Wrangler is diesel 3.0L. I keep ESS turned off.
@foordya14 күн бұрын
Not sure if you can charge on hybrid vehicles
@jamiewilson3438 ай бұрын
waiting for the next trail run. keep up the good work. until the next trail. out
@jimc.634 күн бұрын
Have you ever permanently installed the Ecoflow 3 in 1 Alternator Charger. If so where did you put the charger in your Jeep. Thanks
@Casey2504 күн бұрын
It is in my Gladiator. It sits where the speaker would have been if I had it.
@jimc.634 күн бұрын
@@Casey250 Thanks
@jimmydoo6 ай бұрын
As others have stated, your battery shouldn't be at 12v while the car is running. The battery should be at ~14v while charging. If its less then that it's very depleted and that's not healthy for it. Also, dual battery systems aren't only about capacity. They're also about amperage, which for some power hungry winches are a necessity. You won't get that with an Ecoflow as your secondary battery.
@BillMeyer-l4q8 ай бұрын
Can it be used with a gas/electric hybrid ?
@MyQuaresma72 ай бұрын
Hi Casey awesome content . Can you also share some insights on how a solar would fit into setup thanks
@gregsheridan8 ай бұрын
Curious what the starting battery’s actual voltage is when you set it to 12V or 13V. You don’t want your starting battery to sit below 12..6-12.8V.
@willrouse23513 ай бұрын
Nice video thanks. Good run down of this great gear. Definitely please do an update/installed video
@willrouse235124 күн бұрын
Got the alternator charger but the app keeps asking to connect to WiFi. Does it not function over cell network?
@wendyfrederick59655 ай бұрын
I already got one of these, It works fine. Now, I just need to figure out how to run the cables, through my cars firewall so I can charge whilst I'm driving. There are limited pass throughs and now sure of the insurance implications of breaching a firewall.
@KBeverly2 ай бұрын
Can this be used with a dual battery system? It would be nice to get more than the 100w charge from the 12 volt system.
@Casey2502 ай бұрын
Number of batteries doesn't really make a difference.
@ben31tube8 ай бұрын
You should be able to use this between battery banks, also!
@timtullio12106 ай бұрын
Can you select the type of battery you're charging during "reverse charging"?
@markpagejr75484 ай бұрын
Hi. Thank you! How did you run the wire from the vehicle battery to the alternator? I have a 2015 manual JKU and the wire isn't going through the firewall grummet on the passenger side.... and the driver's side one is full.
@Casey2504 ай бұрын
down the frame and up a hole in the back. I show some of the install in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fX3KpIKCibSkY68
@marksuson53472 ай бұрын
Renogy has a 50a dc to dc that does everything this thing does for less money and mine has been working great for over a year
@dilipthykkoottathil2506Ай бұрын
Can we use other alternator chargers with ECOFLOW DELTA
@Casey250Ай бұрын
Delta 2 and 3 series.
@Jakepp2358 ай бұрын
Question I don't see the Delta Max battery listed as compatible, only the Delta 2 Max, can you confirm if the Delta Max battery is compatible since it has the correct connector?
@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk8 ай бұрын
The EcoFlow alternator charger is good. Downside: only works with EcoFlow. Expensive. Positive: interesting app features to fine tune the charging. Highest charge rate. Risk: double check your alternator specs. You don’t want to draw too many amps from it. My sailboat only has a 60amp alternator
@lakorai28 ай бұрын
Daygreen has many of these dc to dc step up chargers for significantly less money. And they work with any power station as kong as the voltage for the mppt controller is compatible.
@dorknerd8 ай бұрын
I’ve been using the broncos inverter to keep my glacier charged. When I bring my Anker 757 into the vehicle I move that xt60 connector to solar port on the Anker and run a usb-c cable to the glacier. This is way more efficient. I noticed the alternator charge had two outputs and one input. What’s the difference between the outputs? It would be nice they provide an xt150 to xt60 cable
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
Only 1 output. Theres a comms port rj45.
@paddy1o12 ай бұрын
Is it possible to use the reverse charge feature to charge a 24v battery from the ecoflow gas generator do you think?
@Casey2502 ай бұрын
I don't know enough on that to help, sorry :(
@paddy1o12 ай бұрын
@Casey250 Thanks for your reply. Could be a interesting "hack" though I reckon.
@めぐ-n6m3 ай бұрын
Can I use this to 2013 Toyota corolla? My auto garage guy told me not to use it. He said it will kill my car 😢
@keithbeasley58623 ай бұрын
Do you know if the Bluetti Charger 1 will work with the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max?
@rui18633 ай бұрын
Bluetti Charger will work with any power station that accepts solar. The charging speed will be limited to your solar input or a max of 600 watts.
@bobbthompson8 ай бұрын
Do you think this charger will increase wear on my alternator? Should I upgrade my alternator or limit my use of the charger to protect my alternator? Or do you think I can run this thing as much as I want with no consequences down the road? Thanks.
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
Depends how close you are to and amps on your alternator I suppose.
@small.towns.open.spaces6 ай бұрын
I like you have had issues seeing the full 800 w charging. I have a 180amp alternator so not sure if that has anything to do with it, but it should be able to put out 60amp with no issues. I as well have a delta 2 Max with the extra battery and at most I get about 530w. I had previously connected up my battery to a 20 amp dc/dc converter and was able to get 430w via the xt-60i port. I'm a little disappointed I'm not getting more. My alternator is capable of outputting 14.8 volts. Idle amperage is 120. When I run without the Ecoflow charger My battery is outputting 14.3 consistently. I tried changing the Alternator Charger to 12v and now I get an over charge error so I have to set it at 13v for the unit to work. I guess I need to call Ecoflow.
@johnowens85308 ай бұрын
Flow offers bundles for the wave. Some of those bundles offer the extra battery and alternator charger together. It appears they are saying the charger can charge the extra battery on the wave. Even if some manual they offer says it can’t do this.
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
Maybe needs a firmware update I missed. It did nothing when I plugged it in.
@johnowens85308 ай бұрын
@@Casey250 I think it probably does. Last week it offered the bundle, and said the alternator charger would ship at a later date. Today it offers the bundle and does not mention the charger shipping at a later date. It seems likely they have the update and have not sent it out yet.
@johnowens85308 ай бұрын
@@Casey250 are you impressed by the heat output of the wave?
@devinmahoney37777 ай бұрын
So what is the black box doing? It is an inverter off the 12v car battery sending what to the eco flow? A corrected sine wave of 12v? 120v?
@559Raider5 ай бұрын
I don’t get it… cant you just plug into your center console or bed 110 outlet off the 400w inverter to charge? Or am I missing something?
@Casey2505 ай бұрын
Most LFP portable power systems wont charge off a modified sine wave inverter. I don't know every vehicle out there, but in Jeep's that is the problem.
@559Raider5 ай бұрын
@@Casey250 I watched several of your other videos last night and saw you mentioned this in one.. I was about to send mine back lol. Thank you.
@Sc0tTyD7 ай бұрын
I would love to see how you ended up running the wire back into the cab and how you set everything up.
@Casey2507 ай бұрын
Coming in the next video. Just put it in the Gladiator.
@Sc0tTyD7 ай бұрын
Perfect, I have a Gladiator so I’m going to be taking notes 😂
@MovingPicturesAfrica8 ай бұрын
Great review thanks 🙏
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MRanda-so9yo4 ай бұрын
Can you use this on the original Eco flow Delta?
@Casey2504 ай бұрын
I don't believe so.
@gmcinbc56698 ай бұрын
Do you know what the impact on your alternator would be after prolonged use?
@randythraen2168 ай бұрын
Depends on the vehicle and what your charge rate is. If I'm charging the Ecoflow off my alternator at 14v, 300w, that means I'm pulling around ~20amps. If your vehicle has a smaller alternator like mine (05 GMC canyon with 100amp alternator). That means I'm using almost 1/4 the alternators capability. With the increased strain on the alternator, you will experience faster wear and could shorten the lifespan. I plan on upgrading to a 200-300amp to reduce the stress on the alternator and increase reliability.
@jcar14178 ай бұрын
@@randythraen216I have dual alternator on my power wagon, 400 amps from the factory, nice to have when winching, great option.
@gmcinbc56698 ай бұрын
Thanks nice to know details like that
@KAI-m4s2 ай бұрын
Can it charge the normal delta station?
@Casey2502 ай бұрын
My understanding is not.
@KAI-m4s2 ай бұрын
@ Thank you so much Casey for prompt reply. I hope it changes the delta 2 as I’m about to buy one. 🙏
@leemen8 ай бұрын
Great video. Very informative.
@christianarias48506 ай бұрын
Is it only compatible w the eco flow units?!
@CanuckTech4 ай бұрын
Is it possible to connect 2 alt chargers to a single Delta 2 Max & have both charging/discharging simultaneously? Thanks
@Casey2504 ай бұрын
Holy moly thats a lot of charging. I honestly don't have that answer, but my guess is no. Thats a lot of load on the alternator, and a lot of input.
@CanuckTech4 ай бұрын
@@Casey250 I plan on connecting the chargers to LFP batts instead of to a car to increase capacity. Have you tried connecting the charger + an expansion battery to the Delta 2 max? Just wondering if both XT150 battery ports can be used simultaneously. Thanks
@dragonseggs8 ай бұрын
Any ideas if this is compatible with 3.6L with eTorque? My dealer and Ecoflow tech support can’t answer my question!
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
If it's got a 12v battery I can't see why not.
@Stealth_Overlanding7 ай бұрын
Question. I have a delta2 and I’m interested in this for my rig is it possible to hook up the delta 2 extension battery and use this in conjunction? I can’t find anything on line. Thanks!
@Casey2507 ай бұрын
You can hook 1 expansion battery and the alternator charge at the same time. The Delta 2 has 2 expansion ports available. If your using 2 expansion batteries, you couldn't use the alternator charger.
@jK-yj2tl8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review; I have been thinking about purchasing one of these for my Toyota Tacoma here in Alaska. I noted that you mentioned the operating temperature to be limited at -20° C. You are the first reviewer to mention these operational limitations. The winters here regularly get way below -4° F/-20° C.. So I’m guessing this is not a great fit for Northern climates?
@shadesbro128 ай бұрын
REDARC BCDC is also only down to like -20C.
@koruki4 ай бұрын
Can you just wire a standard battery clamp to a xt60i connector and plug I to the solar input of the Ecoflow?
@Casey2504 ай бұрын
It should work but still gonna be slow charging at 12v
@dennisjohnson52713 ай бұрын
Yes, but limited to 500 watt PV input on each xt60i inputs (max has 2). A lot of people forget that the delta2 max has a huge advantage with 2- 500watt PV inputs. You can use 1 with solar and 1 plugged in to 12 volt source.
@tjlindsey3112 ай бұрын
Did you ever get an answer why it was putting out 600w while idling vs 800?
@Casey2502 ай бұрын
Wiring and grounding. They recommended grounding to the chassis not the battery. Its in my Gladiator. Works brilliantly.
@TechNep7 ай бұрын
Can you use the wave 2 battery and delta 2 together?
@Casey2507 ай бұрын
You have to plug the wave into the Delta 2 to run it
@jamestribol14345 ай бұрын
excellent review...great detail
@philcadorette13838 ай бұрын
Great video! As a retired mechanic, I see some potential issues. Vehicle alternators are designed to keep the vehicle battery topped up, but can handle some high charge situations for short periods of time. When you hooked up the eco flow battery cables in parallel you essentially now have a dual battery system. The alternator can’t tell the difference between the batteries, thus it will charge the batteries up until fully charged. When this is happening, the vehicle battery is also receiving the high charge thus producing the negative effect of too much heat for the vehicle batteries and alternator. Over the years I have changed dozens of vehicle alternators and batteries due to having one battery being charged up too often , the fix was one alternator and 2 batteries, ouch! Hopefully ecoflow has some sort of setting that would prevent this, otherwise the risk is too high and expensive if you are going to charge through ecoflow from a low state of charge. Can anyone address this ?
@ozmanfidaar63118 ай бұрын
There are much better DC-DC chargers in the market than what's reviewed here. For example, both Renogy and Victron have chargers with hardwired voltage sensing options--that is, as soon you turn off the engine, the unit automatically turns off. Renogy units even have current limiting and turn-off options when the engine is on. It seems to me, the Ecoflow is a bit behind given this is their first DC-DC charger.
@bdmenne8 ай бұрын
Glad you spoke up. Hope you get more feedback so we can all benefit
@gregsheridan8 ай бұрын
@@ozmanfidaar6311this isn’t a regular DCDC charger. It is 12V to 40-60V so it can charge the Ecoflow. Quite different than a regular DCDC application. Also it is about 65A at 12V output which is higher than any regular DCDC chargers which are normally 25-40A. Renogy has a 60A. You can’t use a regular DCDC without a voltage converter.
@gregsheridan8 ай бұрын
It is potentially an issue to draw this much 65A current continuously from an alternator for several hours. I think that is why most DCDC units are lower output. Even the units get hot and this one is smaller than a Redarc, Renogy, Victron or CTEK however this outputs higher voltage 40/60V and lower current which would help with sizing and heat.
@greengooseman4 ай бұрын
so...if you bought a giant 460AH 12v battery. using the alternator charger, would that make the cheapest larges ext battery?
@dennisjohnson52713 ай бұрын
Yes, but at 800 watts it would take 6 hours to charge just the battery. Your vehicle could overheat and may use a lot of fuel. If you want reasonable fast charging use the ecoflow dual fuel smart generator. Then when your delta gets low it will automatically cycle on keeping your max at full charge. Then the alternator charger can be used to charge your 460 watt battery, a little slower, but much less expensive per charge.
@Iamandthatiam8 ай бұрын
can this be used with anker?
@aamien78752 ай бұрын
Can we use eco flow alternator charger for jackery 1000?
@Casey2502 ай бұрын
No
@aamien78752 ай бұрын
@@Casey250 Is there way we can find input connectors from eco flow alternator to Jackery 1000? If yes can you please send me a link.
@jeepjt68688 ай бұрын
Casey, lets see a install. You have a smart charging battery system...lets see where you are going to put the negative cable? I not saying anything but this should be interesting! Also do you have the standard alternator or the beefy alternator?
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
Its probably going in the Demonator so thats a whole other world lol.
@donaldmoore12527 ай бұрын
Did you ever hear back from Ecoflow with regards to it charging at 650W?
@EndTimesFamily2 ай бұрын
Anyone know if this would cause any problems for a 2014 Toyota prius? The charging system is a lot more complicated.
@ferdm96466 ай бұрын
Car battery system is 12V does not mean you can discharge it all the way up to 12V! it will potentially damage the battery and next time you will try to start the engine it wont start. you will end up having a flat battery. you should never go below 12.6 if its lead acid for other batteries check the specs. Keep it up, Cheers!
@-FOXX4 ай бұрын
12.6 is a full battery bud... Try 12.1-12.2
@ferdm96464 ай бұрын
@@-FOXX that's for lithium not for lead acid battery. However car starter batteries should not go below that level.
@NicoProv5 ай бұрын
Im curious as to why your poeer station was at 42% at night and then 8% in the morning? Thats a big loss. Is that deviçe sucking juice out of your ecoflow? Im confused here
@DuaneForrester6 ай бұрын
@casey250 - did you hear back from EcoFlow on why the charger wasn’t putting out the full 800 watts the following morning/day? (I went through the comments here looking for that, but didn’t find a post from you about it. Could have missed it.)
@Casey2506 ай бұрын
They said to ground it to the chassis not batter negative. I did that for the final install on the Demonator and it's been charging at 800w no problem.
@DuaneForrester6 ай бұрын
@@Casey250 oh, interesting! Glad I asked. Doing my install tomorrow and the instructions make both suggestions- body or battery. Body it is! Appreciate the help, Casey! Thank you. 🙏🙏
@jeffs39174 ай бұрын
My guess is that the ground was not the issue, but rather this was: When he first started the next morning, his chassis battery was significantly depleted. If it continued to charge overnight til it got below 12v before shutting off, YES there would be enough juice to start the engine but it WOULD still be WAY below a full charge. So for a while when running the next morning, the alternator would be pumping heavy juice into the chassis battery, and not have enough uumph left to reach 800w on the EcoFlow. Drive for a while and as the chassis battery recovers, and then if alternator is still up to it, the EcoFlow would then get up to 800w. I don't know what level of depletion for the chassis battery is "safe" for repeated use. But as some other comments in here have said, repeatedly depleting the chassis battery to an unsafe level will kill it prematurely. Also, running the alternator to its peak max for extended periods will kill the alternator prematurely. BOTH problems could be eliminated if the EcoFlow unit could be set to allow tenths in the voltage. Somewhere around 12.5 or 12.6 should be just about right. It will vary some with different batteries and systems, and with the same battery as it ages. For this device to work correctly if using that feature, one really needs to be able to change it as needed, and bump it within tenths of a volt.
@jeffs39174 ай бұрын
@@Casey250 I suspect the problem in that case was not the grounding, but rather how depleted the chassis battery was when you first started the next morning. See what I just said to DuaneForrester. I had FLA House batteries in my RV for a while. Whenever I had over-depleted them during the night, then the next day none of my LFP batteries (including two EcoFlow devices, a Glacier and a River power station) would charge for a while as we drove down the road. The FLA batteries were being replenished, and after an hour or so of driving -- more if we had depleted more of the house batteries capacity -- then it would gradually start adding more charge to the LFP batteries. Just my experience, but it could have been that same situation for you. Especially if now you normally are seeing the 800w again, which you would when your chassis battery is not over-depleted most of the time.
@vashon100Ай бұрын
It shows decimals now.
@chadlloyd62478 ай бұрын
Do you happen to know if it works with a river pro II?
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
No. Not unless they make some adapter for it.
@volleyballDave8 ай бұрын
It connects to a Delta series power station using the XT90 connector. It cant connect to a River 2 series because they use an XT60 connector. Not sure if a XT90 to XT60 (or XT60i) converter would work.
@SigmaWolfOutdoors8 ай бұрын
In a pinch solar charge ecoflow and reverse charge starter battery
@jamiewilson3438 ай бұрын
i put a lunsun solar panel on the hood. always keeps battery charged and maintained.
@upinya52236 ай бұрын
I wish someone would show a install video including routing the wires in a wrangler 4 door
@jaysonjohnston36118 ай бұрын
Any idea why it’s not compatible with the Wave2 batteries?? That would have been my main reason for purchasing this alternator/charger…
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
I dunno. I thought it was suppose to be. Maybe I missed a firmware update.
@volleyballDave8 ай бұрын
It connects to a Delta series power station using the XT90 connector. It cant connect to a River 2 series because they use an XT60 connector. I'm not sure if the Wave2 has a XT90 connector.
@frankchan25898 ай бұрын
Is there a video that can teach me how to route the cable from the car battery to inside the vehicle so I can charge my power station while I’m driving?
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
That's going to be so far dependant. If look for a video of routing wiring for maybe a stereo amp for your vehicle. For a jeep I'd go down the frame rail and up the drain plug in the passenger footwell.
@volleyballDave8 ай бұрын
As of the date of my reply, there are now multiple videos with details about this charger, and at least two of them show the routing of the wiring from battery through a grommet in the firewall, under the door frame (down by the carpet) to the back of the vehicle.
@PeaceChanel8 ай бұрын
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@resnick114 ай бұрын
How fast can it reverse charge a battery and can it reverse charge a lithium / LiPo battery?
@zalllon8 ай бұрын
I wish this device came out three months ago as that’s when I bought everything using the Victron DC/DC 12/24 volt converter for my EcoFlow Delta 2 Max
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
You can use them both for 1100w of charging :)
@Justin-C7 ай бұрын
At least the Victron will work with non ecoflow units.. in my opinion, the ecoflow price premium on this is pretty ridiculous considering that all it really brings to the table is higher wattage (~800W vs ~500W) and reverse-charging.
@1stJohn3.9-104 ай бұрын
Does this have to use a phone? Hurricane Helene destroyed everything and nobody had cell phone service for over a week ...
@Casey2504 ай бұрын
It's Bluetooth so cell service is not needed. I use these off-grid all the time with my phone.
@drjondonson7 ай бұрын
It’s crazy they sell a wave2 and alternator combo and they don’t work together?
@AoW78 ай бұрын
The best thing is. If you have a delta pro. You can hook up the ev charging port to the pro. And install the 4xE cowel. And then charge your pro at any ev charger like a 4xE. As well as using this alternator charger.
@Casey2508 ай бұрын
Well that's interesting
@Facesofdisco20114 ай бұрын
I’ve tried using e charge with mine and cannot get it to charge anywhere in uk
@bobbysea91498 ай бұрын
I’m upset that when I have my delta 2 battery dc cable hooked up to its extra battery there is no way to attach a dc cable to the wave 2 for more efficient running you must use the ac connection. Ecoflow can’t think of everything I guess.
@vinceparker28882 ай бұрын
These are $200 extra with the Delta 2. Are you still liking this?
@Casey2502 ай бұрын
I love it. Very useful for charging up while driving while overlanding.
@K0nst4nt1n968 ай бұрын
Great product but poor alternator. It will get very hot. Can you limit the charging speed?