Leo was an accountant who turned a radio hobby into a business. All his engineering starts with maximum utility. That’s what makes Fender great.
@PeteLamont2 жыл бұрын
Great job not getting distracted or off topic until 9 minutes in! The side stories are always awesome too though!
@CasinoGuitars2 жыл бұрын
We really really tried!
@WoollyWizardBeardCo2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout guys ! Appreciate you both and all the content !
@davegrice34232 жыл бұрын
Man I love these videos. It's like sitting with a couple of buddies, cracking nerd jokes and talking geetars. Cheers!
@CasinoGuitars2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave!
@chris_27142 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good book. Adding it to my reading list 👍
@chris_27142 жыл бұрын
As much as their criticized for it, I like that Fender/Squier have numerous lines of guitars with something in every budget range from $200 to $2000 and up. The jump from Epiphone to Gibson is still a big gap in pricing. There's no "building up" to a high end Gibson.
@notapplicable3282 жыл бұрын
Like a sg junior one of gibsons “cheapest” guitars is still $1400
@presmasterflash75552 жыл бұрын
There are a number of Gibson guitars for under 1000. I do agree with the gap statement. There is a big gap even when putting the epiphones into the equation but there is definitely some good guitars for sub 1k. I own a couple. Love them.
@Mikey__R2 жыл бұрын
How about the Tributes?
@presmasterflash75552 жыл бұрын
@@Mikey__R definitely Gibson’s attempt to get a little more into the “affordable “ market
@Mikey__R2 жыл бұрын
@@presmasterflash7555 I had a Tribute Studio around 2010 / 2011ish I think. It was a nice guitar, and I kind of regret trading for a MIA Jazz bass.
@jasonbone70332 жыл бұрын
I’m not even a guitarist, but as a lifelong drummer this book enlightens not only the beginnings, but American history that changed the world. A must read for every musician. I love this channel and watch daily. It feels like I have a couple of soul brothers just down the road from Charlotte. Take care and keep up the great work!
@SV-wb8kh2 жыл бұрын
Always remember that a genius was usually thought of as crazy untill their idea proved to be successful.
@EchoApexFirstEcho2 жыл бұрын
Great Book, I’m glad to hear people talking about it from your point of view.
@chrisconnick3532 жыл бұрын
If you guys keep talking Star Wars I’m going to have to keep watching!! 🤓 that’s at least 1/3 of why I love watching you guys. The other 2/3 is so I can see Jonathan’s beard. I’m going to check out that Canadian guy. Thanks fellas
@sparxlabprojects95452 жыл бұрын
The Birth of Loud is a terrific read. For anyone making their way through Peter Jackson’s Get Back, another is Kenneth Womack’s Solid State that takes readers through the same period of Beatles history. Fascinating to revisit such substantial musical history in context to their times and the personalities of the principals who played such substantial roles in shaping the music and instruments we’re all still so compelled to play.
@kcsatchell52022 жыл бұрын
I own both and agree they approach their consumer from a different angle. I did visit the Gibson Garage two weeks ago…walked out with a Murphy Lab Pelham Blue ‘64 SG Reissue with “Light” aging. Staff was great and awesome experience!!
@CasinoGuitars2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! send the shop some photos of it! Shop@casinoguitars.com
@jdstan96502 жыл бұрын
OMG...the screenshot of Baxter smelling Jonathan's beard is my new screensaver...thank you 🙏 for hours, days, months, and years of hilarity! 🤣🤣
@deanmccaskill54952 жыл бұрын
Podcast!!! Thank you!! I gave it 5 stars and didnt even get to listen yet.... Unfortunately its the Canadian store so it may not even count haha Love u guys!
@rydner2 жыл бұрын
You guys absolutely need to read that book!! I got it when it first came out. My. God. So much good storytelling to fuse the rise of great artists and the creators. It’s like a docuseries from the history channel but as a book!!
@redheadgoins74112 жыл бұрын
Half way through this book right now, really good read.
@timothypotter21372 жыл бұрын
The book "Play It Loud" is what started it all for me. No looking back!
@dangolguitartech2 жыл бұрын
This video put a thought in my head… Imagine being the first guy to discover how to control a dimed Bassman? That would have been very cool, I think.🤠 Thanks for another great video, fellas!
@TommySG12 жыл бұрын
Very cool, I just ordered a copy. Thanks guys… really dig your feeds!
@jeffthomson17772 жыл бұрын
Always love the topics you guys pick to go over
@CasinoGuitars2 жыл бұрын
Sincere thanks!!!
@ryanfulldark27752 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Can’t wait to watch this later!
@mknchpssimmons42812 жыл бұрын
Stop planning to read it and do it already. That book is amazing!
@ryangunwitch-black2 жыл бұрын
That's a great book. I'm on my second read now. The writing is such that it moves at a brisk pace and stays interesting the whole way through.
@joshdickens82812 жыл бұрын
Cool. I plan to check out the book.
@tragedician2 жыл бұрын
4:50 Fender and other guitar makers don't get enough credit for how well they've managed costs and made North American-made guitars available at affordable price points over the years. A USA Strat, a PRS S2, a Gibson Les Paul Tribute, or even a Kiesel Custom cost less today than Fender's and Gibson's early models cost in the 1950's when you adjust for inflation. The first Teles sold for $189 in the early 1950's. That's almost $2,000 today. A Strat was about $2,400 in current dollars when it debuted. A new Player Strat costs less than half that. Pretty incredible when you think about it.
@kurtisr23392 жыл бұрын
Seconded. All of this.
@davidtomkins42422 жыл бұрын
Economies of scale and cnc machinery. Original fenders were all “hand made master built” of sorts. Look at howmany guitars fender makes per day now.
@jaybe8132 жыл бұрын
The Gibson Garage is awesome. I bought an L-00 there this past summer. Handy and dangerous that I live only 15 minutes from it.
@CasinoGuitars2 жыл бұрын
That's too close for us. We would be broke :)
@jaybe8132 жыл бұрын
@@CasinoGuitars It is too close. They’re ALL too close!
@Ironworthstriking2 жыл бұрын
The book is fantastic. Highly recommend it.
@rubiera582 жыл бұрын
Hi Tyler - I respectfully disagree. Agree, fun read but see my comments below. Regards, rubiera58
@leamanc2 жыл бұрын
The Birth of Loud is a very enjoyable book! I received it for my birthday a couple of years ago, and it was a perfect gift.
@notthisnotthat2 жыл бұрын
"I like you, Clarence. I always have, and I always will." - The King
@garycoates49872 жыл бұрын
The quote I always heard from Ted McCarty originally was "now anyone with a pin router can make a guitar" talking about fender,,, then the call of $$$ was overwhelming and Gibson changed their tune
@DK000182 жыл бұрын
Good stuff guys!
@theHAL90002 жыл бұрын
Terrific book! Extremely informative and interesting.
@mikedr15492 жыл бұрын
My wife got me that book last year for Christmas - really enjoyed it!
@glassslide2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic book!! Couldn't put it down, excellent read.
@JWhitneyInc2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you've done a video on this before, but I always find it so curious as to how the majority of the guitars made over the last half decade are just reiterations of stuff that was brand new in the 50's. It's hard to improve on perfection, but it's also hard to believe that they got it so perfect back then. Lots of people tinker with different electronics and compound radius necks, etc. But for the most part people love and demand the classics. And I'm the same way.
@brooksroman29182 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is mainly because the rise of the electric guitar in the 50’s was pretty much the invention of a new instrument in itself. Both the guitar and amp companies made what they made and it sounded how it sounded, and it all solidified what the “electric guitar” is and subsequently how the music that was made using them sounded. It’s always been interesting to me how people talk about innovation regarding the electric guitar but violin and saxophones have been what they are for centuries. Now obviously lots of innovations in the electric guitar world are really cool and it’s always good to be thinking of new ideas, but I think the “Fender style” and “Gibson style” electric guitar is basically just like an “A-style mandolin” or an “F-style mandolin” it’s simply the instrument itself. This comment ended up being way more in depth than I intended it to be
@bardpendragon72292 жыл бұрын
That book is definitely on my to read list. I'm pretty sure Dylan lives in his own version of "Howl's Moving Castle".
@joshloggins32982 жыл бұрын
The book is a good read! It's really fascinating to learn the history of both Fender and Gibson. Each companies approach to what would be the birth of Rock music
@REDW1NG942 жыл бұрын
It really is a great book. Another good one is "Play it Loud" by Brad Tolinski and Alan di Perna. After reading those 2 books, pretty much all my answers about the inventors, companies, and players have been answered
@thelawnmowertapes2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the continued dynamic informative vids.
@jeffhershberger2 жыл бұрын
I read it last year, great book!
@jonathanbloomfield26032 жыл бұрын
I'm reading the book right now. It's great very interesting
@georgestahl88662 жыл бұрын
Nine minutes before you drifted off. We can blame Dylan talks tone for that. Yet, per usual, you masterfully wind back around to the “topic.” Thank you both for my daily dose of gear talk with a little bit of life thrown in the mix.
@ryanfulldark27752 жыл бұрын
The few 50s and 60s Fenders I’ve played really capture that vibe you spoke of. I’m not sure the tone they pioneered was completely by accident, Leo was methodical with pickup placement, tone woods etc. But I’m quite sure he never envisioned the myriad of ways his instruments would be used. Ex. Jimi Hendrix! Great vid guys!
@volkerlange72512 жыл бұрын
“Tone wood” is an irrelevant concept in this context. Pickups are not microphones, they aren’t picking up any resonance in the wood, all they “hear” is the disruption in the magnetic field of the pickup caused by the vibration of the strings in the proximity of said field. What effects your guitar tone, ie what creates the signal, is the shape and size of the magnetic field (the design of the pickup), the strings (material, diameter) and how your fingers make them vibrate. On a hollow body electric guitar, contact between the strings and the body via the bridge causes the soundboard to vibrate, and that vibration on the soundboard causes the bridge to vibrate which does effect the vibration of the strings, but even in that context you’re not hearing “tonewood” beyond the fact that a harder wood will vibrate more strongly than a softer wood, that is to say that if I made two archtops, one out of a very hard wood like maple and one out of a plastic that has the same hardness as maple and put the same electronics on them, they’d sound the same. This isn’t the case where tonewood is relevant, acoustic guitars, since the interaction between the vibrating strings and the wood is much more complex and audible. You could not use plastics with equivalent hardness. There’s nothing wrong with caring about wood on your guitar, I like the weight and aesthetics of a mahogany body with a maple cap, but it’s an issue that’s purely aesthetic! The wood of a Les Paul is as relevant to tone as the color of your blanket is relevant to how soft and warm it is.
@ryanfulldark27752 жыл бұрын
@@volkerlange7251 😲 I dig the passion, bro.
@volkerlange72512 жыл бұрын
@@ryanfulldark2775 I hear so much nonsense about tonewood it drives me crazy
@ryanfulldark27752 жыл бұрын
@@volkerlange7251 It’s far from nonsense. Ash and Alder sound noticeably different. Just as mahogany and maple. Fretboard material alters the sound notably as well. When you played and owned as many guitars as I have, you pick these things out a bit easier. I understand there is a faction that calls it nonsense and a faction that puts merit behind it. But the evidence is out there it makes a difference, and it’s readily available. But, hey, constructive debate is what makes this so damn interesting!
@Adamnme012 жыл бұрын
That book is what got me back into guitar after about 8 years away from it because life got in the way.
@portsideguitar19812 жыл бұрын
I loved this book.
@richc.92732 жыл бұрын
I might have to change my answer to the secret question if Baxter keeps dogging Jonathan's home life. Peace gents. Thanks for the content as always.
@jamesburge1983 Жыл бұрын
You guys really should also read "The story of Paul Bigsby" Among other things you get to see photos of Paul, Les and leo hanging out. Not to mention Paul actually built a guitar for Les, pregibson. It is really fascinating to read the story of how all these guys were just buddies. Kinda neat to know that the nerdy engineers were hanging out doing the same things as all the 'cool kids'.
@kowalguitarlife91192 жыл бұрын
hello boys love the show .....goooooood stuff
@noahmcchicken12282 жыл бұрын
I love watching yall btw
@CasinoGuitars2 жыл бұрын
Thanks A ton Noah!
@stephenstgo2 жыл бұрын
Good book. Really interesting seeing how it all started for both of them.
@fireroadeddy2 жыл бұрын
I truly enjoy the two of you and your ramblings. But I have a 2016 Les Paul Studio T that I had to save a couple of years for and is one of my favorite guitars. Why all the studio hate?
@Adamski19892 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 studio that's basically a standard without body binding.its got the 57s in,bound fretboard and all features of a standard but with coil taps.it feels like a standard and screams
@Frosenborg2 жыл бұрын
Gibson did cool/weird things in 2018. One shop had 2018 Classic with P90 pickups and no weight relief.
@Adamski19892 жыл бұрын
@@Frosenborg was 2018 the last year of Henry ? Just wondering if it will appreciate in value
@Frosenborg2 жыл бұрын
@@Adamski1989 Could have been, I'm not sure. I'd think your Studio is more valuable than is regular counterparts.
@seanalan32522 жыл бұрын
Hey! I’m in Weehawken…
@alangreenway66952 жыл бұрын
Just think of Fender 1950-1964- the Telecaster, the Strat, the P and J basses, the Jazzmaster, the Jaguar, the Mustang. Now think of Gibson 1950-1964- the LP Paul, the LP Junior, the V and Explorer, the ES-335 and the other ES range, the SG, and the Firebird. Since then they’ve come up with a tiny amount of ideas (the Gibson DC, The Fender Acoustasonic) but just think of how limited the ranges of modern companies are: PRS just have variations on the Custom 22 and 24, the Silver Sky Strat-like and the 594 Paul-like, and some budget models of these guitars. The only company that comes close to Gibson and Fender in innovation is Gretsch- all of their shapes coming from 1950-1964. You wonder why those 14 years were so different to everything that came after in Guitar design.
@honkytonkinson97872 жыл бұрын
I lean towards Fender guitars but I don’t think a guitar collection is complete without at least one Les Paul I prefer the studio to a standard or a custom; something about the lack of binding makes them look sleek to my eye. Some of my favorite guitars are LP studios with figured tops and transparent finishes
@BackyardCed2 жыл бұрын
That Magnatone jacket I do need
@markkern53102 жыл бұрын
Fender really is like a modular guitar. Anyone can work on one. Was my first guitar and my fav to mod.
@davidp11922 жыл бұрын
The book is great. I highly recommend it. It is available on audio book (which is how I read it).
@dw77042 жыл бұрын
That book is a good read for guitar history, which I enjoy Cool how their histories intertwine Things didn’t happen in complete isolation
@bradleyruble69032 жыл бұрын
Will definitely have to add the birth of loud to the list of reads 📙
@Ryanvatz2 жыл бұрын
The podcasts have been great!
@CasinoGuitars2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan!!!
@brucer2612 жыл бұрын
yes the JJN Epiphone Gold Glory. I want one. Also would like to get the black one to, just so I have them both
@timothypotter21372 жыл бұрын
Love Dylan Talks Tone. His HSS loaded pickguard significantly improved my Squier Strat.
@ScottPaine2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Les Paul guy but I've been looking into a tele or strat. type fiddle to add to my guitarsonal.
@lejessman2 жыл бұрын
I was honestly expecting a baby falcon to attack Baxter as he sniffed the beard.
@brechtloyens38922 жыл бұрын
please put the podcast also on deezer for the non-spotifyusers :D
@nevillecragg90662 жыл бұрын
I would digest this book with Baxter and Jonathan narrating it to me, In between chapters though I’d like an awkward honesty break and some movie recommendations. Then gently fall asleep to some “wooly beard swaying in the breeze” macro sounds.
@stephenprosser67872 жыл бұрын
Great book!
@Datimdavis29002 жыл бұрын
The way Jonathan’s beard smells, Baxter would definitely get distracted and get his ass kicked in an arm wrestling contest
@ryangunwitch-black Жыл бұрын
If you’ve read it maybe do a part two now! I’m rereading it for the third time lol😂
@jerrymorgan17522 жыл бұрын
I love and own both Gibson and fender guitars. I will say as a personal choice, with Gibson I would love to have a custom shop or even a standard. I simply don’t like fret nibs. This has left me with studios, studio deluxe, ash body and BFG,s. Keep the great videos coming. P.S. not on the toilet while watching this video…..the wife’s not home.
@Trikisixx2 жыл бұрын
C'mon 50k subs. I want to see Baxter's wirey frame lay the hurt on Jon's arm and win my sweet new Silver Sky.
@CasinoGuitars2 жыл бұрын
That’s the spirit!!!
@markbassman2 жыл бұрын
Great book. Definitely recommend
@shanewalton88882 жыл бұрын
have you guys read Brad Tolinski's Play it Loud?
@twenty3electronics2 жыл бұрын
A 1954 Stratocaster was originally $249, and would be over $2,500 adjusted for inflation. A Gibson Les Paul was actually slightly cheaper
@darthsensei38382 жыл бұрын
Yea that book is awesome. I wouldn’t wait for the movie.
@Mikey__R2 жыл бұрын
I have an Epiphone Studio. It's absolutely fine!
@tipsylibrarians77642 жыл бұрын
I’ve read both Birth of the Loud and Play it Loud. To me the genius of Leo Fender and his team was that they listened to customers and used great designs to meet their needs at a reasonable cost. Leo started repairing radios. He branched out to renting PAs for things like church events and concerts. He was a fan of Western Swing and those musicians were among his customers. He thought he could improve the design of the steel players amps. Then he started building steel guitars. After hearing the guitar ps complain about feedback and expensive neck repairs, he branched into guitars. The Strat was based on feedback from the Tele and was meant to replace it. Some players wanted contours, more sounds and a vibrato bar. I also didn’t know that there was period early on that Bigsby, Les Paul and Leo were friendly and would discuss designs at Les Pauls home. Cool books.
@Iamthestig420692 жыл бұрын
The 60s and50s studio tribute models were way cooler than the regular studio.
@IndigoJo2 жыл бұрын
Fender and Gibson guitars really show the roots of the companies that make them: Leo Fender was an electrician who made amplifiers and diversified into making guitars and his guitars look like electrical appliances. Gibson was a mandolin maker which diversified into arch top guitars in the early 20th century and their electric guitars look like musical instruments, specifically archtops (except maybe the Explorer family). Look at any two Fender models and the electrics differ as much as the bodywork, while Gibson models' differences from each other are in the wood, while the electrics mostly stick to the same formula: two humbuckers or P90s, a three-way switch and a volume and tone control each. Fender always seem to be innovating in pickups and circuitry while Gibson trades on 50s nostalgia and authenticity; people seem to want 50s pickups like they were never improved on.
@emptypromises29622 жыл бұрын
Well, have they ever really been improved on? They have surely been diversified, but improved on? No, not really, I'd say. Listen to how Gary Moore got those paf:s screaming and howlin' and how Peter Green got'em to sing so sweet and lovely; they're the exact same pickups in the exact same guitar. Both sounds are more or less a "perfect" guitar sound, but so different.
@Reverend_Mojo2 жыл бұрын
What'd the Fender say while arguing with a Gibson? ... ... "Hey! Don't lose your head"
@gshep422 жыл бұрын
The book is worth the read!
@rongroves96202 жыл бұрын
Norm recommended that book a year or so ago, and I bought and read it. It is a quick read, and heck I barely know how to read since youtube. You should check it out.
@cannadan812 жыл бұрын
new sub...and bassman owner...love it lunar ice
@twenty3electronics2 жыл бұрын
The Slingerland Songster was the first solid body electric guitar. It used 6 coils in a hum canceling arrangement, similar to zexcoil’s design
@74kevin12 жыл бұрын
The Birth of Loud is one of the best guitar books ever written.
@EddieLeeFunn2 жыл бұрын
And there was much joy in Kurt's (sp?) world when news of his promotion came true! LOL
@davidduston16112 жыл бұрын
cools vids fellas
@zootallures12 жыл бұрын
Great book….well worth the read!
@ginolamendola40842 жыл бұрын
Why are you talking ??? Because you are give us listeners AWESOME information! That’s why you are talking !!!
@curtevans8382 жыл бұрын
You two are great! I own several pretty nice Fenders because I don't feel the buyers remorse from only dropping a grand at a time, but man! I still haven't brought myself to justify 5 grand for a nice Les Paul. I still really want one though. For now, my Epi with Duncan Antiquities will have to suffice.
@davidleinweber2 жыл бұрын
I healed couldn't play a G chord. If true, its one of the hilarious musical fun facts ever. What a giant of American business and cul
@jscribs712 жыл бұрын
If the Borg played guitar, would they play an Explorer?
@FJA---2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 60s mainly I was a bass player and a little rhythm. Never was a fan of Gibson guitars. For solid bodies it was Fender, for hollow bodies it was Guild or Gretsch. Do have to admit that I still think the best sounding acoustics ever made were the mid 60s Gibson Hummigbirds with the Dove not far behind. For acoustic 12 strings I was a fan of the Guilds. For a mid/late 60s utility acoustic I wish I'd never gotten rid of my Goya. Played well and sounded good.
@mikefromusa69022 жыл бұрын
It’s a great read.
@LakesideWeldingJerry2 жыл бұрын
I'm not in Weehawkin, but I am in Jersey!
@jonathanbloomfield26032 жыл бұрын
The guitaroligist suggest that Summersby (I believe that was the name) guitars came out with the solid body electric first.
@Amish_Trivedi2 жыл бұрын
I vote for more synopses of books Jonathan hasn't read.
@matthewwelch95792 жыл бұрын
My guitar journey: 1999 Squier Affinity Strat 2000 Fender Tele STD. Mex. 2005 Gibson USA Faded SG 2017 Fender Modern Player Tele HSS China
@scottkidwellmusic91752 жыл бұрын
Helluva way to start the day, gentlemen. It always seemed to be a west coast vs east coast thing in the context of my younger thinking. Forward thinking, hip, and cool as opposed to more traditional philosophies. Not that either is bad, just different. Then there's Bigsby that throws a monkey wrench into my thinking... And I'll admit that it took me a long time to come around to liking or wanting either Fender or Gibson, because I didn't know any better in my punk rock heart. I saw them both as corporate giants, and didn't feel I could support either of them. All those years... wasted 😂 Thanks for a good and informative vid- Be good to y'all