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[@Johnwiseman56]

Prove that the Sith aren't just five Palpatine's in an Overcoat

[@bearandthebull2372]

Can......can we actually prove that with Disney's canon?

[@emmajay5666]

@@bearandthebull2372 Nope

[@FunkBastid]

I’m just asking questions man!

[@Johnwiseman56]

@@bearandthebull2372 honestly, technically yes. As of right now, not taking into account stuff COMING, and ASSUMING cloning is how he survived since its vague, its 100% possible

[@JustSoji]

Can we prove that the sith aren’t just a budget version of Organization XIII

[@fenris5932]

Rey being Palpatine's granddaughter has scarred the scene into my mind of Palpatine in a blazer leaning up against a bar, slicking back his hair, and saying to the local hottie: "Hey, have you ever heard of the tale of Darth Plagueis?"

[@irtazaazam2573]

Robot Chicken's version of Palpatine is canon to me.

[@RogueCrocodile]

Sergeant Superbeast I found you nerd

[@fenris5932]

@@RogueCrocodile Hey man there isnt room for both Unexpectables binging AND CSB in the same timeframe

[@ngmajora6986]

*"I'm afraid my erection will be quite operational when you arrive."*

[@fenris5932]

@Andrew Whiting you think he plowed someone AFTER his face got melted?

[@bazzjedimaster]

Sheev Palpatine is his name and convoluted schemes are his game.

[@lordsquid6652]

Nice Felix profile pic

[@InvaderKaz2008]

My name is Sheev, I'm the leader of the crew

[@nosey2658]

@@InvaderKaz2008 Cause i love...

[@Edward-Not-Elric]

@@InvaderKaz2008 Reformed from the force in the nuclear goo

[@Alexander11s]

I’mma tell my kids “Pat and Woolie play KOTOR” is the real sequel.

[@andrei11dr]

I don't think that LP suitable for children

[@FightCain]

Andrei11 Dr Not with that attitude

[@cokeMONSTERps3]

"If their pockets are lined, their contents are mine." - Pockets on stealing from babies.

[@moroseloki1912]

You mean prequel?

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

Mfw that pazzak game with the Ithorian on dantooine was more hype

[@Katagara84]

If we can't have Leia talk Ben down, why not have it be Anakin? The kid idolized his grandfather for so long and based his entire evil identity around him, so why not have Anakin himself come to him and tell him that the dark side is whack and that Darth Vader himself recanted to the light before the end?

[@TheJiminatorHS]

Because JJ hates the prequels on such a petty level he was willing to digitally erase background flags in Maz Kanata's castle in TFA. io9.gizmodo.com/j-j-abrams-nixed-a-very-weird-prequel-reference-in-th-1774459977 No, I'm not joking

[@PolarPhantom]

Imma agree. Even if Leia was set up as the final push, I would want him to talk to Anakin at the very least. I still don't know how Force Ghosts work.

[@ThejollyFrenchman]

Literally? Because Hayden Christiansen got blamed for the entirety of his poor performance in the prequels, despite being a competent actor who was just poorly directed, and basically got blacklisted from any future Star Wars content. He literally begged to voice Anakin in The Clone Wars tv show, and they turned him down. George Lucas hates the poor guy, and apparently Disney's version of Lucasfilm decided not to change that attitude of him.

[@gdadder]

ThejollyFrenchman that’s so sad man, I love Hayden he’s such a great person; his acting wasn’t the problem, it was the fucking script and I wish people knew that. He loves Star Wars, it’s obvious and I feel so bad for the man for never getting another role. I prayyy that he gets a part in the obi-wan prequel

[@babyfacekillah1323]

@@ThejollyFrenchman Honestly, that's pretty fucked up on Lucasfilm's part. How the fuck do you blame an innocent actor for your own shitty script writing? Bring back Hayden.

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

The irony of killing off Luke and Han while the only one of the three person core from the original trilogy whose actor actually passed away was Leia is a perfect microcosm for nuStar Wars. "We have nothing new to offer so we're going to over-rely on the old stuff, but even then we utilize the old stuff in the most suboptimal way possible."

[@kdash3760]

So boruto?

[@Hotmanlion12]

To be fair, I’m pretty sure the only reason Harrison Ford even agreed to come back for Episode 7 is if they killed off Han.

[@sonicboomers122]

@@kdash3760 Boruto made me like Sasuke it something right.

[@ngmajora6986]

I'm at least 90% positive that with the whole"Force is Female" stuff they were TOTALLY banking on Leia being the big important woman only for in some magical sort of Divine Intervention the Universe said "No"

[@nhall129]

@@Hotmanlion12 Correct cuz Ford didn't want his character to just be fan service, and Luke's whole thing in the new trilogy was Lucas' initial idea

[@circular7]

This podcast was more intense and thought provoking then that star wars movie.

[@pleaserespond3984]

No, the Star Wars movie came out before the podcast.

[@thepickles8833]

But the franchise refused to change.....

[@MrPants432]

Than*

[@krodmandoon3479]

I take shits more intense and thought provoking than that Star Wars movie.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

@@krodmandoon3479 you should change your diet.

[@acedetective7280]

Have you ever heard the tale of Darth Plagueis The Gripes? It's an old Kentucky legend not many Hosers have heard of.

[@iller3]

hahaha, ^ he said Hosers instead of leafs, pouters, or frostdicks ...its funny b/c there hasn't been a petrol shortage in decades

[@francescolombardi3438]

Ironic. He could lewd others in art, but not himself.

[@TheBelatedRater]

@@iller3 Eh, more of a joke towards the people living in Indiana, we call ourselves hoosiers, and Kentucky is south of Indiana so....yeah, anyway I thought it was funny :)

[@MrStrangerthenever]

When they get to the part where Palpatine was behind EVERYTHING in Star Wars my mind immediately went to Kingdom Hearts. It too involved an old man who was involved somehow in every entry of the franchise.

[@alexandercastro-vera8641]

Complete with evil yellow eyes!

[@werewolf873]

I would not be at all surprised if we find out in KH 4 that palpatine was behind everything, nor would i be surprised if in Star Wars 10 we find out that palpatine was actually xehanort all along.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

"Palpatine was behind it all, as we all know." "Okay, I believe you."

[@DemonLordSparda]

I enjoyed it in Kingdom Hearts because it had more setup and the plot is pretty hokey. In my galaxy wide space fantasy it's pretty awful.

[@Delivery-Witch-Express]

Bleach and Fairy Tail also had this issue. Although for the latter it changed after a while, while the former, it was all that one Captain guy.

[@kingofbel6499]

"Prove that the Sith are real" WOOLIE NO!

[@roflcopter_launchpad1116]

He's becoming A-Sith-iest

[@jbark678]

🤣

[@FightCain]

I want to say Darth Bane's existence in Clone Wars but, I don't think that's canon for Disney anymore. Man, without the Expanded Universe and KOTOR + other star war games (Dark Forces, etc), it's super one-sided.

[@FLFL-Cookays]

@@FightCain Asokas in the most recent movie via voice, so I'd say its safely canon.

[@diegomedina9637]

WOOLIE YES!

[@ultimateDOOMPOOL]

It's crazy that jet li's "THE ONE" is required viewing for star wars

[@harlannguyen4048]

How so?

[@rockdragon3]

@@harlannguyen4048 the more of one side (person) you kill, the stronger the remaining get as the dead persons power is distributed among the survivors, until you get an all powerful god remaining who is the only conduit for the compiled power.

[@dronaroid]

z

[@AshkanKiani]

Highlander

[@TylerCalderone]

I think we can all agree that Rey Chewbacca would have been a much better name

[@jonathangarza5389]

Chewbacca, malabacca, lumpybacca, reybacca

[@takezokimura2571]

More like Reybaka (Rey idiot)

[@Umberman]

Rey Bacca and Lumpy band together to get to Life Day on Kashyyk for The Star Wars Holiday Special 2

[@iller3]

ReyjinBuu

[@trevingrayek1671]

Yeah, Rey ripping people’s arms off would have been cool to see.

[@jasonwhigham335]

Star wars has this annoying problem of having some of it's actual cool and interesting stuff be immediately lame or non Canon

[@CJVERG16]

"She wanted Ben Swolo to get Swolo in her Holo" - Pat

[@francescolombardi3438]

I'm Han Swolo I'm Han Swolo, Swolo

[@genesisnitsua2571]

Oda, author of One Piece, has what amounts to a script that has all of the events listed out just in case he dies in the middle so someone can take over and complete his story. I wish Star Wars could get anything like this.

[@blazblu100]

Pretty sure George had something like that, but Disney tossed it in the trash.

[@CosmicG777]

@@blazblu100 Yep. Along with the Thrawn trilogy we lost so much. I don't see why Disney had to get rid of all of it. Some of the EU is dumb, sure, but so much of it was amazing.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

@@replaceablepelican9478 maybe he should be writing his script instead of playing fucking Idolmaster.

[@Poppadop1]

@@CosmicG777 Some of it being amazing is exactly why Disney needed the EU to go. Lucas admitted that the Force is meant to represent God, while the Jedi and Sith are major adherents to how thinking beings can morally align. Even without deeper EU titles like KotOR, Star Wars deals in the metaphysics of why all people may choose to fight for good or evil. Disney may act like it has no clue, but a disregard for good vs. evil is how megacorporations get so massive in the first place.

[@AlyxandraLoF]

There was it's called Heir to the Empire and it's a billion times better than this trash

[@ramavalos]

Also Finn had initial feelings for rey, Then rose, then poe. Ugh, Finn is so god damn wasted character potential. A storm trooper that turned good and went against his ideology only to get shoveled. He even held a lightsaber! lol

[@clearwater4470]

Denson Francisco literally it’s just Disney

[@night1952]

TLJ really did Finn wrong. RoS tried.

[@Avengedtenfold]

@@night1952 RoS really didn't help. He's such a one note character, loyal to the point of suicidal AND they make his turn from The Empire less special due to the existence of an entire company that left The Empire with no relation to his own turning. The other traitor storm troopers should have been inspired to leave BY Finn but nope, child soldier conditioning is ez to break fam.

[@Comkill117]

Finn held the lightsaber while Rey used a gun for a good chunk of Force Awakens. Imagine how much cooler it would have been if it was like that for the whole trilogy.

[@zmeicorp]

Finn shouldve gave all of them space aids

[@redmilo92]

This is my favourite clip since Woolie's three weeks of unbridled GOT rage

[@grandarkfang_1482]

The Rise of Skywalker: An Unbridled Rage? The Longman cometh.

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

Imagine how cool Phasma could have been if they made her an actual character instead of trying to force the Boba Fett effect on her.

[@PolarPhantom]

Phasma works as Finn's Snoke.

[@Whazzupie]

@@PolarPhantom So not at all

[@tequilawhiskey]

I was actually hoping she would come back again. I think itd be hilarious. Plus at least i could describer her in a way, fucking impossible to kill.

[@NEEDbacon]

And some Random Stormtrooper with a Tonfa took the Boba Fett title from her (and that scene was MEANT for her, but the actor couldn't/didn't want to do it)

[@PainCausingSamurai]

I thought Finn was going to lead a stormtrooper rebellion against her.

[@shiningnight12]

When woolie said prove that there were sith besides The Emperor I damn near had a heart-attack cause he makes a very very good point. There are no other sith.... FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[@LordOsiris499]

I love how instead of “what Holdo did was a one in a million chance” thing got straight retconned to “literally nobody thought of it, it actually just never came up, literally nobody ever did it before Holdo” is an incredible stupid idea to bring up about almost planet annihilation level attack that apparently says that nobody in this universe has EVER been willing to die for their cause or smart enough to flip a switch while facing “the big problem”

[@scifimisc9191]

Forget being willing to die, Star Wars is a universe with DROIDS. Droids that are already regularly mind wiped to prevent them from forming personalities!

[@randomfox12245]

What? But they mention "Holdo Tactics" and say "come on that was a one in a million chance" word for word

[@PolarPhantom]

The Clone Wars did it.

[@crazydude610]

@@randomfox12245 * timely comment on a question that is 4 months old * He's talking about before Holdo did that maneuver, the fact that no-one, in the THOUSAND'S of MILLIONS of years of religious space wars with numerous space wars, had never thought creating the most dangerous physical projectile ever, by using pre-existing technology.

[@godsplayingfield]

@@crazydude610 i mean for feck sake, when humans created cars one of the first things we did was go "okay.... so what if we made it really sturdy and rammed it into something? okay thats good, hows that work on people? it hurts, a lot... awesome that works.... can we make it do it by itself somehow?" are we really supposed to believe that given hyperspace movement, some military somewhere didnt immediately go "..... so what if we made like bullet ships that just hyper speed into shit while carrying a nuke or 10 inside. have that on autopilot or use cheap droids. there are like a billion rocks around that dead planet over there we can use for testing. hyperspace ramming does WHAT!? THATS FECKING COOL!"

[@tylergregoire1763]

Watch opinions transform in real time!

[@Zeronigel332]

Disney money vs people wanting to release the truth

[@pareidolist]

Pat is normally such a steamroller that it's really cool when Woolie completely changes his mind.

[@tomhill3248]

It's pretty great. I love watching these 2 talk about how shit something is.

[@21powah]

The ending of this video makes for so many hilarious possibilities. Mine is that Darth Plagueis the Wise was a story Palpatine made up off the top of his head just so he could further tempt Anakin into betraying the Jedi and joining his side!

[@vampuricknight1]

Who's to say he isn't also plagues the wise... who's to say Palpatine isn't just the newest in a long line of force essence swaps that he does whenever he pleases... Hell who's to say Palpatine is ACTUALLY dead this time and he doesn't have another horcrux... fuck star wars.

[@KMoroboshi]

Who's to say, depending on how old Palpy is, that all the Jedi's knowledge of the Sith wasn't seeded by himself in a stupid game of 4D chess to get him that sweet chair?

[@francescolombardi3438]

who's to say the real Sheeve Palpatine was the friend i made along the way?

[@trop3848]

"No one has ever pulled a ship out of the sky" Mkay forgiven, but starkiller tho

[@TheCarlosCobain]

Thank you, my cultured friend.

[@riastradh]

He was so powerful he is permanently banished from the canon because holy fuck that monster must not live

[@trop3848]

@@riastradh at least he's not as bad as Nihilus

[@tequilawhiskey]

@@trop3848 you mean Vitiate? At least Nihilus was an aberration. No longer a normal being at all. Its like Kreia describes, Nihilus is not an example of power over anything. He is consumed by his own broken presence in the force. He does not absorb life willingly, 'he' does not exist. It was nothing to be in awe of or aspire to like starkiller. It was something everything, even sith, should fear. Vitiate is just lolimsostrong, let me summon another empire to drag out a broken story. Hey, sounds familiar...

[@trop3848]

@@tequilawhiskey I did mean Nihilus cause that shits crazy but yeah sure vitiate too

[@wafflegear]

luke going straight to possible murder is the biggest "just talk"

[@collindoucet7374]

wafflegear he didn’t really go straight to that. He had a moment of impulse/instinct that he didn’t check because he saw a vision of Kylo destroying everything he loved, and thought to prevent that. The moment he thinks that, he immediately regrets it and feels ashamed. The tragedy is that Luke’s though or impulse to prevent that destruction is what caused it.

[@Crade1]

@@collindoucet7374 he had a moment of impulse while standing over his nephews sleeping body? Luke snuck inside kylos room while he was sleeping. Presumably to murder him. That's not Impulse, that's sure as he'll not "instinct", that's a premeditated murder attempt. Or do you want to tell me Luke made a habit out of watching his apprentices sleep?

[@SergioSource]

@@collindoucet7374 if waking up, grabbing your deadly weapon, going to where a child is asleep, and activating said weapon is a "moment of impulse", then I guess the whole world has the wrong definition of what an impulse is. That's a premeditated action.

[@Crade1]

@@collindoucet7374 I really hope you aren't a judge or a lawyer, lol

[@collindoucet7374]

Crade wait Luke went to talk to Kylo. He didn’t plan to do anything or hurt him

[@WeaponOfMyDestructio]

After the reylo kiss my sister keep hitting the shit out of my shoulder in anger. I keep laughing to near collapse and the ceo of the company i worked for was in the theater saw the whole thing and thought i was being abused. Best part of the night i haven't laughed like that in years.

[@claudiomonteverdi847]

Make a star wars movie about it, it sounds very interesting

[@WeaponOfMyDestructio]

@@claudiomonteverdi847 Star Wars: Anger of the Kinship.

[@angriestjoker]

WeaponOfMyDestructio that legit sounds like an actual title they’d go with

[@crysiscore2051]

I just left the theater. My friends then heard people say “Yeah as soon as they kissed this one guy just BOOKED IT”

[@OktaviaVon]

How dare you embarrass me like this on the internet

[@RicardoAlmeidatm]

The lightspeed ram is such an effective tactic that no other strategies are viable. Building giant spears of durasteel with FTL motors would be the best way to deal with capital ships. The fact no one ever did that before is stupid.

[@queencyrys6309]

Hell, even just small spears

[@HellecticMojo]

regarding Poe and Finn not being obviously gay, I love what the latest Red Letter Media termed. "Passive Progressive"

[@jbark678]

Gotta get that Communist gold

[@yanipheonu]

Woolie, I'm glad I'm not the only who though of Megatron from Beast Machines when I saw Palpatine attached to that machine.

[@seokkyunhong8812]

Yyyyyes

[@Comkill117]

It’s impossible not to see when you know Beast Machines.

[@yochlel2642]

More like Star Wars: The Emperor's New Groove

[@FutBoy281]

"Everything is Echoes" Did Woolie Secretly play Kotor2

[@mocca3633]

ikr ? remind me of Kreia

[@CapsTheArbiter]

He's playing it rn on his channel, funny enough.

[@TheScheckig]

I went into the theater feeling drained of nostalgia for starwars and ended up laughing at nearly every attempt at emotional manipulation. I'm finally be done with it and I'm feeling pretty positive about that.

[@jbark678]

I moved on to Gundam. A similar experience, but there were giant robots the whole time so it worked out.

[@TheScheckig]

​@@jbark678 A fresh coat of paint isn't going to help. I've become aware of how media tries to bypass adult reason through nostalgia and emotional manipulation to keep people consuming recycled trash. The slime is everywhere.

[@k.-flynn]

@@TheScheckig I'm from the future, we've hit the next era where the Mandalorian is dangerously close to nostalgia baiting with the clone wars.

[@dahliahb.7111]

@@k.-flynn still haven't quite hit it though tbh, plus I think that show has a pretty decent way of weaving the little nostalgia/ references into it

[@mrwri]

42:25 Hey Woolie, what you're really going to hate is this: the dagger was obviously made before the Death Star blew up.

[@Chuckles_The_Goat_Clown]

Peppers

[@MatNightmare]

I'm having a hard time picturing the time-line. When would the dagger have been made?

[@Chuckles_The_Goat_Clown]

@@MatNightmare I think way before the death star was even built possibly.

[@MatNightmare]

@@Chuckles_The_Goat_Clown well that's fucking stupid

[@claudiomonteverdi847]

It makes sense if you put "force" somewhere in the sentence

[@Ike_of_pyke]

35:48 I'd be okay with her being OP, if she: -Had little control over how powerful/weak each use of the force was with her unconscious usages of it being her "just right" elements -Was scared of how much was happening to her at once And then have Kylo's offers to help her "find [her] place in all this" seem all that more alluring as she's clearly afraid of what she is.

[@Abdega]

Yes, just *something* so it isn’t free

[@SoaringLettuce]

I would have liked her to be overpowered to the point she was scared of her powers and for those powers to be the reason she gets dumped on jakku, because her parents were scared of her. Imagine if she wanted to stay on Jakku because there, there wasn't anything to break, no one to hurt. Imagine her accepting that what her parents did was wrong, accepting that she was angry and then overcoming that anger to control her powers. Feels like a wasted opportunity.

[@sonicboomers122]

Using a Jedi Mind Trick is what sends me up a wall. Like Someone who kinda know Math and they start doing high level calculus. Rey force pull and push sure those are simple tricks Luke learned without real in the direct force training But, he did not know mind until the third film with a year of training with Yoda.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

@@SoaringLettuce also would have worked for the twist of this movie by going "they were scared of you because they saw him when you'd use your power."

[@Ike_of_pyke]

@@sonicboomers122 jedi mind trick also pissed me off that she so casually used but also her suddenly and powerfully drilling into kylo's head when he invades her head was a huge "wtf"

[@SenoSasquatch]

If Rey were a Palpatine clone, the "Your parents were no-one" angle could have still been saved, because her parents would have just been cradle-snatchers.

[@AdMerIin]

The sith have to be real, because Revan was one. Then again, SWTOR made his motivation for being a sith "Some guy in dark space said Ayyyyy be a sith and made me do the bad" now

[@cyberninjazero5659]

>TFW You will never get the secret Naga Sadow Empire that survived with the actual species of sith instead it's a grey sith empire with more humies They had models for the species and everything

[@NekoKujo6785]

Didn't that whole thing go something like "I was hypnotised to do the emperor's biding, oh wait, actually I'm fine now, but i'm still evil so imma do my own evil plot instead."?

[@AdMerIin]

@@NekoKujo6785 He said he was told to and made to do it, then was tortured for 300 years and kept alive by the Emperor. When he got out he sided with "Faction you're not apart of" and went back to his SECOND star forge to build an army of super robots to hunt "Thing in your faction"

[@jakirakumahata5701]

And Revan said "Oh fuck, this guy will probably cause suffering for trillions of people and the ideal he represents will cause everlasting suffering, unless using my GIANT brain I can somehow create circumstances where not only HE dies, but his very ideals are destroyed. The only way I can think of to do that is to utterly destroy the Jedi and the Sith together, and if possible the force itself allowing everything to live their own lives without a metaphysical energy field's interference." then he basically Lelouch vi Brittanias his way into starting the Jedi Civil war, setting up the Rule of Two and the Clone Wars thousands of years later, all in an effort to boil everything down to Luke so he could reform the force at worst, and destroy it with the teachings Meetra Surik and Kreia would lay down at best.

[@crimsonking440]

Tbf almost every important sith Lord even in legends was duped into being evil

[@cyberninjazero5659]

10 minutes of Woolie and Pat need to play KOTOR 2.

[@iller3]

the Entire fanbase wants so badly for this to happen... Pat has nothing to stream but old replays of RE. Woolie is done with Naruto, practically done with Indivis, and since he refuses to finish GAME OF THE YEAR, there was never a better time to take on K2... which means they absolutely will NOT because well executed Scheduling might as well be Directions and Navigation to an Egg farm to mr. Madden

[@cyberninjazero5659]

@@iller3 What's worse they never play it or that when they finally do they forget/never bother to install the Restored Content patch?

[@ngmajora6986]

@@cyberninjazero5659 I doubt that would happen most of the times KOTOR 2 gets brought up Oat brings up the Patch

[@cyberninjazero5659]

@@ngmajora6986 I don't know who Oat is but good job Oat!

[@NekoKujo6785]

@@iller3 It's definitely the most annoying thing in the Galaxy far, far away!

[@purpleguy3000]

That analogy about what the three trilogies represent is great, you can further expand it to show the balances of the force. The prequels are the dark side with total independent creative freedom which ultimately leads to it's destruction, the sequels having being the light side with too much passivity and indecision leading to it's downfall even if it seemed good at first, and the original trilogy being the true balance which while not perfect creates the best outcome overall.

[@patrickloureiro1403]

Wait. Are you talking about star wars or smt?

[@francescolombardi3438]

the dark side of trilogy production is a pathway to many iterations, some considered to be "unprofitable"

[@Nadie47]

Dark side is corrupting in its own nature, being balanced doesn't matter, youre still getting corrupted.

[@music79075]

@@patrickloureiro1403 Star Wars and SMT crossover when?

[@ravensflockmate]

The prequels were actually enjoyable to watch unlike the sequels though

[@ElijsDima]

Also, this movie proves that that little kid with the broom, at the end of Last Jedi, must have been another Skywalker or Palpatine offspring.

[@jacobsmith4428]

"The oppression of the Sith will never return" Mace Windu There was, in fact, Sith before episode 1. Whether that was somehow in some way Palpatine's fault too is up to question.

[@Horatio787]

He does say "the" Sith, implying multiple.

[@samb3514]

Luke's momentary decision to kill his Nephew would have been believable if they implied that he had pupils beforehand just turn to the dark side and do horrible atrocities thanks to Snookie. At that point he'd have doubts that he could save his own family member and would choose to rather see them dead than see them become a monster.

[@aubadeknight5649]

That avatar.

[@Kekkersboy]

It wasn't a momentary decision. It wasn't even a decision. It was a gut reaction he immediately stopped. That's not something that needs explanation.

[@edge85saint]

Its bullshit and if you want to convince me and eat the bullshit you have to do a way better job. Bottom line: You have write a better movie script if you gonna change a character like Luke that drastically.

[@collindoucet7374]

Kekkersboy also he saw Kylo destroy literally everything he loved or cared about in a vision, something he didn’t really see with Vader.

[@collindoucet7374]

Edge85saint it’s not a change, Luke still had the impulse he had in the previous movies, but with old age and some arrogance, he wasn’t vigilant enough in checking that impulse

[@tomhill3248]

The ending of this video is just the essence of "You thought I was a sith but it was really! ME, AUSTIN! IT WAS ME, AAALLll alooong!"

[@varg6663]

Pat and Woolie summed up my biggest problem with TLJ really well: it had interesting ideas with not-great execution Edit: LOL we also used similar analogies for why ROS turned out the way it did. I described it as "instead of course correcting after The Last Jedi, JJ Abrams swerved hard and crashed into a wall"

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

In my opinion, Last Jedi was the best Star Wars film in the franchise. It took the story in a direction that made the franchise feel well thought out and developed. More than that, it made me feel like the story being told in the new trilogy was actually necessary. Rise of the Skywalker course corrected. It U-turned straight back to Force Awakens and literally pissed everyone off. Seeing Rian Johnson's new film, I have a distinct feeling that he was not the problem with the new trilogy.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

@JosiexJosie Considering the film was about learning from failure and not erasing the past, no it didn’t. Kylo and Rey did forge a new path. Rey decided to learn from the failure of the Jedi. Making the Jedi maintain balance, rather than declaring ownership of the force. Kylo decided to burn it all and start on his own path. Making all the same mistakes along the way. Ep 9 would’ve been about the conclusion of these two leaders. The end of their ideologies. The First Order burning down failures of old without learning. The new Jedi creating an order that wishes to learn from past failures. It’s really not a hard concept to follow up on. Time skip and make two new orders. Knights of Ren are the new sith. Rey teaches a new Jedi.

[@jman2856]

@Weird Boi The Last Jedi did nothing for the story. The TLJ “story”ends where it starts, new characters are in a huge stalemate development wise, constant retreads of OT elements, and Luke dies before he can do anything interesting. I can only look at it as a bold direction if I somehow thought the OT was just simple “good vs evil Luke was a boring Gary Stu.”

[@Umberman]

I forgot that Kylo and Rey are technically related now due to THE PALPATINE QUESTION but I hadn't actually thought about it until this video Yeah, there's definitely some weird incest tone to that

[@collindoucet7374]

Jet Jenkins the palpatine thing isn’t supposed to be taken literally according to the comic author

[@CompagnonDeMisere25]

@@collindoucet7374 And we should care what some comic author says because...

[@collindoucet7374]

Carmilla Von Karnstein I’m talking about the palpatine being Anakin’s father thing, not Rey being palpatine’s granddaughter

[@ShadowWolfRising]

He didn't create Anakin, Plagueis did.

[@collindoucet7374]

ShadowWolfRising that isn’t canon either.

[@kilmerval]

7:40 it blows my mind when people think Rey should've joined Kylo at the end of Last Jedi. If you haven't watched recently that scene happens as the first order is blowing up escape ships and Rey is begging Kylo to stop the bombardment and Kylo says no, let them die, let the past die, let everything die and join me and we can rule the galaxy. She shouldn't take his hand because that's fucked up to just ignore the past and not learn from it, and Kylo killed his own Dad! And it extra pisses me off in ROS that she kisses him for some goddamn reason. Kylo killed so many people, his own father, and had so many chances to redeem himself and wasted them all. Kylo wasn't trying to find something new he wanted Rey on his side while he continued ruling the galaxy with the first order.

[@ryangallagher8194]

Yeah, I don't get why people say they should have joined forces and try to paint Kylo's words in a much more positive light as she's literally watching her friends being shot right outside the window and begging him to call off the attack. I would have much preferred if they went ALL IN on Kylo being a villain. No great evil overlord like Palpatine or Snoke, just a guy getting more and more crazed as he drives it all to destruction.

[@SpookyGhost15]

To be honest I doubt any of them watched it twice, so they probably forgot.

[@Blackheartzero]

_... but they're literally soulmates though._ For real though; I did write something similar to this "Diyad" crap in one of my Pokemon fanworks, the key difference being I _intentionally_ wrote it to be stupid, schlocky nonsense, written for the sole purpose of making my sociopathic main character mad.

[@chesterstevens8870]

Why does Pat remind me of Hedonism Bot from Futurama, the way he's leaning back in his chair as if waiting for someone to hand-feed him grapes?

[@shadowreaverrising1753]

"I apologise for nothing!" Patt would say this.

[@Blackheartzero]

Hedonism Bot is what happens when Pat isn't rebuilt into a Toilet as per his wishes.

[@Edward-Not-Elric]

34:30 That legit gave me goosebumps and I didn't even watch the movie. The thought of her having to assertively tell someone who was trying to comfort her that it WAS her fault is way better than her just killing her friend/only hope of winning and everyone solemnly accepting the fact. Good stuff. And then 30 seconds later it's ruined. Good job movie.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

Saw the movie. Can confirm it pretty much exactly that fast. Kind of ironic that Chewie is the only one that gets denied the unceremonious yet most powerful death, huh?

[@PolarPhantom]

For the record, she hecked up going to Kylo in The Last Jedi. Yeah, they killed Snoke, but then Kylo takes over. She is traumatised and broken and was not willing to compromise. Not to mention Snoke really messing her up. Ben is the one who saves her then. And she messes up a few times in The Force Awakens as well, namely when releasing the tentacle balls. Quite frankly, Rey is way more flawed than most give her credit because she is a woman, so people (you know the types) focus on her successes rather than her failures, like not convincing Luke to come with her. If she stuck around a little longer she may have been able to bring Luke with her, but she decided not to. For good reason, but it was still a mistake.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

@@PolarPhantom I love how people just deflect every criticism with Rey's gender. She's been called a Mary Sue because despite zero training she's better at doing Jedi things than Luke ever was. That's why. She's instantly good at most everything she does if it's not just talking to people. Yes she doesn't exactly accomplish a whole lot before TROS but people are so put off by her instantly winning at Jedi actions they just hate her. If you think it's just because she's a girl, you're the one applying gender here, not them. You're just as bad as the anti-Edelgard-haters for Fire Emblem going "YOU JUST POINT OUT HER BAD THINGS BECAUSE SHES THE ONLY FEMALE LORD" when we've had those before, it's nothing to do with that. You know who brings up gender? People responding to you pretending they ever brought up gender because you giving them a shield because of gender is gonna beg for it.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

@@UltimaKeyMaster go outside.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 1. not a criticism 2. Way to Necro a 2 year old comment because you're looking for star wars things to be mad at

[@Ike_of_pyke]

1:04:00 I'm OK with : - a new jedi order that realizes the prequel order's faults - A new light side focused group replacing the jedi, the way the knights of Ren replaced the sith in episode 7 & 8 or - The establishment of a new order that attempts to go "you need a little dark & you need a little light and it's okay to lean one way a bit more as long as you come back around to attempting balance."

[@cyberninjazero5659]

Kotor 2 continues to be the single best thing in the franchise

[@Poppadop1]

You basically described the Legends EU's New Jedi Order. In that, Luke allows personal attachments while stressing that benefiting all beings and the will of the Force take priority. This works in most instances, such as with Luke's attachment to Mara, and sometimes it does not, such as with Jacen's attachment to Allana. Affecting galactic opinion and knowledge about the Order is not as high as a priority as it needs to be, and this continues to work against them; however, it is largely an improvement over the original Jedi Order and way better than the drek Disney churned out.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

@@Poppadop1 yep,I know that exist thing is Luke isn't gonna form it so I can't call it Luke's anymore, thanks disney.

[@OldWorldFool]

Rey is Kylo's aunt if you believe hard enough.

[@Abdega]

Ara-ara?

[@mocca3633]

Rey Nee-chan 😅😂

[@CosmicG777]

Proving once again that Star Wars is really an anime that's disguised as a live-action space opera.

[@OldWorldFool]

Funs over Disney retconned the retcon.

[@Jay-ln1co]

"It's about family."

[@blaiseoffury4866]

Babu frick is the only worthwhile character in the movie

[@blaiseoffury4866]

Ive said my peace

[@IndoorSitup]

its spelled FRIK do not ever disrespect my boi like that again ok? ok

[@Zach0451]

Those frickin fricks don't respect my boi Frick

[@k.-flynn]

Babu Fuck

[@7U57HTJRYGHG]

FUCK BABU FUCKS

[@pokehybridtrainer]

The Star Forge having made that last fleet? I mean you did have Rey as a yellow saber user like a Jedi Sentinel in the end. Sure, take more from KOTOR, Disney.

[@collindoucet7374]

Jim Boom lightsaber colors aren’t determined by Jedi rank in the canon anymore

[@redmilo92]

There are yellow lightsabres in Clone Wars and probably elsewhere in the canon

[@k.-flynn]

Jedi sentinels were in the clone wars before Disney bought it, they didn't steal that part.

[@PolarPhantom]

The Clone Wars have Yellow sabres, and the colour is actually significant. TFA: Yellow. TLJ: Red. TROS: Blue. Yellow, red and blue. Rey's Sabre, Kylo's sabre and the Legacy Sabre. And let's not forget KOTOR was made under Lucas' supervision when he was still playing with the ideas of the Sequel Trilogy, with the Jedi Killer and Kira. This film is terrible though.

[@crimsonking440]

@@PolarPhantom Lol Lucas's "supervision". "When does it take place?" "4000 years before the movies" "Do whatever the fuck you want" Every book was under his supervision too but he retconned the shit out of those.

[@Liteyears11]

Disney about to wipe their own canon after this one.

[@zohare9028]

When you were talking about strong force powers, all I could think about was the helicopter lightsabers in that Rebels show.

[@Comkill117]

I liked how the Emperor turned into Beast Machines Megatron, both in design (both the command harness and the hanging robe) and with the whole huge fleet of triangle shaped ships.

[@wielderofthetriforce1934]

*sees video title* "I've been looking forward to this."

[@lenmutt]

On TR-8R as Finn's nemesis I always found it odd that that he wasn't Phasma or i mean why wasn't that scene with Phasma? Like have her best Finn there then he can best her in the next movie. TFA sets up three contrasting villains for out new heroes. Kylo for Rey, Hux for Po and Phasma for Finn.

[@trustno173]

From what I understand it's because Phasma was added into TFA fairly late. Kennedy saw some concept for silver Stormtrooper armor that was an early design for Kylo Ren and demanded they add this female Stormtrooper commander into the film. TFA apparently had a huge script overhaul halfway through production, which is why Starkiller Base just comes out of nowhere, it wasn't supposed to be there.

[@quincallahan6323]

I believe the thing where Palpatine is just going to reinvigorate himself with Rey was a plan made in that room, once he both realized she wouldn't help him and that the force twins had special properties making them ideal for healing him.

[@Proctor_Conley]

This gets better the longer you listen. It's awesome! I love it!

[@ultraspinalki11]

23:17 I had these EXACT THOUGHTS with my friends back when we first saw Snoke in "The Force Awakens".

[@tylergregoire1763]

*Sardonic Laughter*

[@4Wilko]

Secret audio recording of Rich Evans watching Cats

[@Lazypackmule]

Luke in TLJ being all like "fuck them jedi" only makes sense in the context of a film director who just saw the prequels and thought that's just what the jedi were It does not make sense in the context of an old man who had completely restarted the jedi order himself from the ground up 30 years after the old order fell, while learning from the mistakes of the old masters who lost it and spent all that time reflecting on what went wrong TLJ needs us to believe that Luke's new jedi order was literally the exact same as the dying jedi order during the last years of the republic, and that's really fucking stupid

[@Comkill117]

Makes even less sense considering he figured all that out in Return of the Jedi to begin with. He recognized the good ideas the Jedi had but also knew they had their flaws, including Obi Wan and Yoda’s insistence that he jump straight to murder with Darth Vader. It makes no sense at all the way he’s portrayed in TLJ.

[@pleaserespond3984]

Disney were THIS close to making Kreia from KotOR2. Just get Luke to come back as a force ghost and teach Rey a new moral code for grey jedi who don't meddle in the affairs of others, call them Skywalkers, because they're not Jedi any more. From just the title "The Rise of Skywalker" I thought that is what it was going to be - building a new order on new code based on Luke's teachings that he gives Rey from the dead and calling them Skywalkers. This movie is so shit it makes The Last Jedi look good. Edit: "Prove the Sith really exist". This would have been hard if Disney had removed ALL the EU from canon, but fortunately Clone Wars is still real and it still has Sith in it. Unfortunately, helicopter lightsabers.

[@rosas439]

Does it? Like Sith who aren't palpatine or related to him, or just "dark jedis"?

[@Poppadop1]

Wait, how do Force users _"who don't meddle in the affairs of others"_ gather followers without meddling in their lives? Convincing people to become hermits is meddling. I mean, this contradictory philosophy is sort of what Kreia does, with her whole plan to save the galaxy from the Force by killing most of the galaxy, but is this the message Star Wars should be going out on...?

[@TheJiminatorHS]

Helicopter lightsabers is Rebels. George stopped Filoni's dumber impulses. Those are words I never thought I would type.

[@theothermc]

Could'veBeenBetterProductions on top of that those assholes are explicitly NOT sith

[@Tuffty]

46:53 And sure enough, that scene has been cut out for the release in Singapore.

[@Kiyokoghurt]

Aw what, what the fuck, I'm Singaporean and I'm super dissapointed that happened man :( god dammit disney

[@Poppadop1]

@@Kiyokoghurt Yeah, Singapore needs the media promoting more creep...

[@KingJosiahlolz]

Good

[@CerberusCarmine]

OH NO IF THEY DO REVAN THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE HIM PALPATINE! NOOOOOOOOOOO

[@vivamexico254]

Holy crap you are right.....

[@god47398]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYjEfat8fruLZ9U

[@diegomedina9637]

Disney please *Do it*

[@TrueGamer22887]

CerberusCarmine listen, I love the old lore and stuff but this wouldn’t be horrible. They can always make new sirh lords and stuff. This doesn’t erase legends revan you can always go back and read the good stories. This would honestly be better than just palpatine being around in the old republic

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

Revan's Flock

[@Abdega]

Hey what’s this about a broadcast from Palpatine the movie references in the beginning? Oh you only hear it if you play *FoRtNiTe* ಠ_ಠ

[@Blackcloud288]

"If you genuinely liked this movie, you have a low IQ." -Mike Stoklasa

[@pareidolist]

[Woolie impersonation] STOP REFERENCING RLM

[@datonkallandor8687]

The "this is like a videogame" complaint always comes from movie critics that have never played a story based video game in their life - people put a lot more hours and thought into a video game story script than hollywood does into their blockbuster movie scripts. And it shows.

[@NovaeMemoriae]

RLM: Here's a 70 Minute review. CSB: Hold my beer...

[@herosshade2247]

"No one's ever pulled a ship out of the sky" Never before have I wanted to scream so loud at these two through my screen, and that's saying a lot

[@aubadeknight5649]

We could have had the Mara Jade and Kyle Katarn Power Hour trilogy. Instead, we got this.

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Or Thrawn, Dark Empire, Yuuzhan Vong, etc.

[@Crade1]

Don't remind me. When they opted to make rogue one instead of "star wars dark forces the movie", my heart broke.

[@Poppadop1]

@@ShadowWolfRising Speaking of Dark Empire, it did the return of Palpatine much better than TRoS. Disney basically dumped the EU to replace it with their inferior knock-offs.

[@macguyverbond7480]

KSDM would have been a Blue Milk Run.

[@VTown1989]

Prequel Trilogy: *Palpatine's behind it all!* Original Trilogy: *Palpatine's behind it all!* Sequel Trilogy: *Palpatine's behind it all!* The joke became official

[@night1952]

JJ didn't expect the next person in the line to be fucking insane... With that groundwork even i could have written the sequel, all the plot lines and character arcs were obvious.

[@ledzeppelinfan1001]

Even though Last Jedi was the best Star Wars movie? Okay.

[@CompagnonDeMisere25]

@@ledzeppelinfan1001 It wasn't and you would be fucking stupid to think otherwise.

[@HoChiMints2007]

"Well you paid me to finish the trilogy, Mickey. So I did."

[@Ike_of_pyke]

1:12:30 are you talking about Skippy? Skippy wasn't a shielding dorid, it was the Droid who owen picked originally that shorts out so they choose r2 instead

[@MrAnthraxes]

Kinda funny how Wollie keeps saying "Wonder-Twins", since, thanks to new Disney Star Wars Cannon Palpatine is not only Reys Grandfather, but also Kylos Great-Grandfather. Yes, Plapatine force-porked Shmi Skywalker in Disney Star Wars, which ends up in Anakin.

[@randomfox12245]

Pretty sure that was always canon

[@MrAnthraxes]

If it was, then I haven't heard about it until recently aka, when the Vader Comics dropped. But my point still stands :P

[@Arassar]

The movie hanging a lampshade on the fact that it's stupid doesn't make it any less stupid

[@StalinBrosef]

The "no one's ever really gone" line was delivered by Luke in The Last Jedi, when he gives Leia a hologram of the dice that belonged to Han.

[@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA]

The best thing to come of this is "Rey who?" "Reyd Shadow Legends"

[@axeltheweeb3883]

Palpatine is the Revolver Ocelot of Star Wars lol. He's been behind everything the whole time.

[@kohinaichimatsu9645]

i honestly don’t see how Rey joining Kylo in TLJ would have been a good opportunity for a grey jedi moment when Kylo was already doing straight up evil things like killing his dad and ordering planets to be blown up just for opposing the order. Like why would anybody view joining this guy as something remotely reasonable or justifiable? How is that a morally gray dilemma? Imo introducing a gray jedi thing that would supposedly be some great new system doesn’t really have a place in the new trilogy when one side is clearly in the right and the other is clearly in the wrong.

[@Damaster1121]

Kohina Ichimatsu Not unless Kylo didn’t want to actually do it. In TBFP spoiler cast for the force awakens, Pat or Liem make a point that Kylo is having conflict falling to the light side, which is seen when he really didn’t want to kill his Dad, saying how hard it would be. In the last Jedi, the fact that he has killed the big bad guy makes it seem like he is redeemable, or, at the very least, they could have pulled a “i only killed my dad so I could gain your trust to get close to you” and make him an anti hero that did horrible things for a just cause. But, they cowered out of any possibilities of that happening.

[@kohinaichimatsu9645]

​@@Damaster1121 I agree that it makes sense for Kylo to become an anti hero that would reject the first order and the resistance based on his actions but at that point in the movie, it wouldn't make sense for a character like Rey to want to join him and become an anti hero character as well. I get that Rey's perspective of the Jedi was somewhat disenchanted by her experiences with Luke but she was still primarily aligned with the good guys overall.

[@TamJam]

Pat: "Droids become sentient over time. That's why C-3PO and R2-D2 have such great personalities...... Not right away, over time." Pat, C-3PO says OH GOD WHY AM I NAKED when he first wakes up in episode 1 when he's talking to R2.

[@Surturius]

Pat never said how much time

[@Blurredborderlines]

You realize neither Anakin nor Luke were the first people to own those two units, right?

[@en4135]

C-3PO is a type of droid basically designed to simulate a person he was also designed by baby Vader who was a goofball idiot.

[@aprendizdefegelein]

Well atleast Longman has been vindicated "MaulerDabbingOnReaderResponseTheoryGuyWojack.gif"

[@aprendizdefegelein]

@Matthew Ivy don't threaten me with a good time

[@matthewyeldig4608]

Dear lord... We truly cannot prove that Palpatine isn't the only Sith, can we?

[@vahlok1426]

The current Star Wars situation is like that scene in The Office when they crash into the pond. Abrams behind the wheel with Lucas yelling at him.

[@angrybrony]

thank god we have mando and clone wars season 7 on the way, like a king sized stack at the end of a root canal.

[@angrybrony]

woolie really needs to look into ahsoka's story if really likes the gray jedi thing.

[@clayisahottie]

Woolie hit the nail on the head with the one of the main issues of Rise of Skywalker: It's pretty much *Three* movies worth of Star Wars movies crammed into *one* movie. They should've pulled a Deathly Hallows/The Hobbit by making Rise of Skywalker its "own" Trilogy.

[@jamg25]

So if Finn didn't like Rey then why did he kept obsessing over her in Episode 7 and 8? This is the RWBY problem where nothing is canon but what is happening in the current Volume.

[@FuriousGorge]

Bad writing.

[@oldmatedave2382]

But finn did like rey? Wasnt that what he wanted to tell her lol

[@cheekyfantasy1314]

The fight scenes also are now meh

[@typhonyx_was_taken]

Mega Mix Jam that’s... not at All what RWBY’s like though...

[@yagirlmayalazarus6713]

Typh Onyx It kinda is. A lot of characterization kind of gets left behind or forgotten as they go into new volumes.

[@tusk1026]

"No one's ever stopped a ship" DID YALL FORGET IN FORCE UNLEASHED WHEN STARKILLER MOVES A FUCKING STAR DESTROYER??

[@tusk1026]

Also in addition: it wasn't Palpatine who created Anakin, it was his master.

[@Wixvhen]

I paused the video at 12:30, because I want to say... They passed up a good opportunity for Luke to have that moment of clarity. That moment of 'What am I doing?'. He started a new Jedi Order, and followed the teachings to the letter which put him in that spot, and then the part of him that is a person stops him. But Kylo doesn't see the hesitation/stop. If he had said 'In that moment, I understood the failings of the Jedi teachings, and for that failure, Kylo was born.' That would have been the perfect moment. What Luke did was 100% the proper Jedi thing. Snuff out the darkness before it spreads. But Luke knew that wasn't right, and knew that he should work to steer him back onto the path. But it was too late. That should have been the reason for tired Luke. He became a proper Jedi. He became a proper master. But he lost his way in doing so, and following the Master's ways meant losing everything and creating the darkness it was meant to stop.

[@shadowreaverrising1753]

That is NOT the Jedi way. If anything they would wait for the turn. AT WORST a Jedi would set a trap. Something that would at least give them the excuse. What Luke had was an Anikin vision.

[@Wixvhen]

Semi-true, but Luke is -dead certain- in that moment. That was why that happened.

[@strawberrylion548]

"Prove to me the Sith exist" - Woolie and the Jedi Council

[@dugumpfert]

I don't trust a man that doesn't like Episode 3's lightsaber duels

[@dahliahb.7111]

I have to imagine he was thinking of the #Palpatine spin

[@Nadie47]

Yep, just ignore

[@nostalgia_junkie]

the craziest part is that woolie and pat wouldnt be fighting over luke's character if THEY JUST PLANNED THE MOVIES

[@BottomShelfGames]

The moment any problem was presented in the movie a solution immediately presented itself in the same scene or the very next. For me the movie is basically Convenience: A star wars story.

[@KingOfMongrels1]

For the record, I think Pat is confusing two different details. Yes, Droids get memory wiped and that going without memory wipe can lead to them developing greater sentience, (it's why the Battle Droids in Clone Wars are more induvidualistic, because they can't be bothered to do that on a regular basis for so much expendable cannon fodder on a galactic war scale) and Droids seen as unimportant don't get wiped. (R2-D2 was never wiped, but C-3PO was between the prequels and the original) The hesitating on the Death Star thing was the dude who is all like "Standby for fire. Standby". Some technician or something. His name escapes me. But he had a brief moment of conscience and was like, "Man, I really don't want to keep blowing up planets" and was essentially praying to be stopped so he hesitated before giving the firing order ever so briefly and that prayer was answered by Luke making the shot. At least from what I remember from the Old EU. There could be additional stuff in new canon or old canon of which I am unaware.

[@vahlok1426]

Want another fun Star Wars comic? Look up the one about the Battle Droid that went against its programming and fought for the good guys back during the prequels. Yeah something good/interesting from the prequel era, a relic to be sure.

[@YorkJonhson]

The idea of them just cutting away from the first gay kiss to a big CG alien waving a Chinese flag is too damn real.

[@Kinzokugia]

"If that movie ended with Kylo and Rey shaking hands, I'd feel a lot more favorably about that movie." Star Wars directed by Marge Simpson.

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

Lemonade?

[@HellfireComms]

Punished Luke is a great idea. The quipping man who throws lightsabers away and tries to kill his nephew over a bad dream isn't Luke though. Sorry Rian, your take was bad and your hatred for Luke was obvious.

[@Feasco]

Nah

[@sonicboomers122]

Online Common thing with people who like this Luke. Are they think Luke was whiny loser in the OG. It happens all the time.

[@k.-flynn]

Han dies: "Who? Whatever I don't care."

[@Comkill117]

@@sonicboomers122 It’s like they forgot everything after the first couple minutes of A New Hope.

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Knights of Ren are NOT former Students of Luke. They were a group BEFORE that.

[@axelskull]

good: visuals, actors, little moments, action, bad: oof theres a lot i give it a solid OKAY I GUESS/10