CASUAL transformers fan watches *THE TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE (1986)* for the FIRST time!!

[@jondbm]

"This guy sounds like he's from Monty Python". That's Eric Idle, and that's exactly where he's from! Good spot!

[@atraxisdarkstar]

I think he's the first reactor I've seen to ever make that connection on the fly, very well done.

[@taqresu5865]

​@@atraxisdarkstarSame here. I actually used to think he was voiced by Weird Al because of the song Dare to be Stupid. This was also before I watched Animated, when Weird Al actually *did* voice Wreck Gar lol

[@SuperMetro37]

Galvatron’s voice actor is Nimoy!

[@TheRatsCast]

Correction: Cassette Tapes, not VHS. Soundwave is a Walkman style tape player with Blaster being a Boom Box. That's why the playback was audio only

[@oliviawilliams6204]

Minicassette to be precise

[@probablysomeguy4806]

Cassette Tapes may only be audio but Soundwave can playback video, like in this movie. The reaction just doesn’t show that part of the movie.

[@patrickcromwell7554]

Actually they DO show the video that Laserbeak took along with the audio.

[@3Rayfire]

Wait, has young Ollie never seen a Boombox?!??

[@PoppaCYS]

@@patrickcromwell7554 But Laserbeak's form isn't a VHS tape... it's a microcassette. The Transformers can take the form of "common" objects but they still have enhanced functionality. Starscream transforms into a jet but can fly in space. Megatron transforms into a Walther P38 firearm but can shoot laser beams.

[@RodimusPrimal]

I love this movie. It takes place after the first 65 episodes of the original Transformers cartoon, 20 years in the future. Those Autobots were main cast members and were killed off since their toys were discontinued. Spike, the father in this movie was a teenager in the original cartoon and the live action movies called him Sam. The reason they transform into Earth objects and vehicles is explained in the early comics as disguise when they first come to Earth based on what their ship's computer thought was the dominate life form of the planet. Later choices, like the Dinobots, were built because Optimus Prime thought having powerful dinosaurs on their side would be useful.

[@Cassette-Cryptid]

Rodimus Primal! It's an honor

[@DenverStarkey]

well mroe corrrectly Wheel jack found some dino fossiles and thought robots based off them would be a good edition , wheeljack also built the dino bots out of a tungsten -titanium alloy that was tougher than the space metals the transformers were made with. which is why the dinobots can take huge beatings and shrug them off.

[@bigneon_glitter]

It was a hell of a thing to see characters you'd been watching on TV after school for years get casually & brutally obliterated. You have no idea how huge & important this movie was for Gen-X kids in '86 - it was everything. And it was a kids' movie that didn't condescend to kids. Optimus' death was a generational moment.

[@JCinLapel]

Because of the reaction to Optimus Primes death reaction they did reshoot on G I Joe the movie because they had planed on killing Duke

[@jonno1701]

Blew my 10 year old mind. To see Prowl and Ironhide killed in the first 15 minutes when you have been watching them on TV every week. 😂😂

[@jawbone78]

@@jonno1701 Ironhide was my dude. By far my favourite character. To say I was devastated is putting it mildly. I couldn't believe what I was watching. Definitely blew my little 8-year-old mind too.

[@user-xo2xd1gu5e]

The Death of Optimus Prime was a terrible moment to all of us who had seen the previous 2 seasons of the show and I think it still affects us all.

[@joegarza4869]

This movie taught us Gen X kids three very important life lessons, one the good guys don't always win, two death in war is not glorious, and three even the greatest heroes can die no matter how righteous the cause.

[@BigGator5]

"Prime!" "One shall stand, one shall fall." "Why throw away your life so recklessly?" "That's a question you should ask yourself, Megatron." Fun Fact: The Blu-Ray special edition of this movie features an audio commentary by Nelson Shin (director), Flint Dille (story consultant), and Susan Blu (voice of Arcee). Final Bow Fact: This was Orson Welles' final film before his death on October 10, 1985 at the age of 70. He recorded his lines five days prior, on October 5. This was Scatman Crothers' final film before his death on November 22, 1986 at age 76. Final Countdown Fact: At the movie's beginning, when the Autobots are taking off on their ship, Optimus Prime (Peter Cullen) orders Cliffjumper for a countdown. Cliffjumper was voiced by Casey Kasem, who was the host of America's Top 40 Countdown for many years. This was obviously a little joke added by the writers, considering we didn't need to hear a shuttle countdown, and any character could have done this. Arcee's Journey Facts: One of the original demands of the Transformers toyline and cartoon series was that no female Transformers could appear, as the toys were marketed strictly towards boys. However, writer Ron Friedman fought hard to include female robots in the Transformers lore, as his daughter was a huge fan of the franchise. This led to the creation of Arcee (Susan Blu), a female Autobot debuting in this movie, as well as a number of other female characters introduced during season 2 of The Transformers (1984). Ironically, despite being one of the movie's feature characters, no toy of Arcee was produced during the entirety of the original Transformers line, though at least one rejected prototype was designed. Arcee became the most famous female character in the Transformers brand and numerous incarnations of her appeared in various other cartoons, comics, movies and toy series, but it was only in 2014, 28 years after her introduction, that Hasbro finally released a toy based on this movie's design.

[@eltreum1]

I remember Elita One and her crew, they were cool and criminally underused. She was Optimus Prime's counterpart leading a guerilla war resistance group on Cybertron. Arcee is also a great character that was underused.

[@LMoftheCoast]

“What happens if you’re guilty then? You walk free?” To quote a line that was cut from the film, but can occasionally be found in other media retelling the story of the film. “Guilty or innocent, the sentence is always the same… DEATH!”

[@EphyStorm]

And that matches the Quintessons perfectly. They've always been pretty sadistic narcissistic bastards. This one just may only want to see people try and get out of execution, and uses the whole guilty/innocent thing just as a red herring to fake people into having hope.

[@Fozzik]

Not VHS tapes...even smaller than that. They are audio cassette tapes. The way we listened to music before CDs :)

[@Cassette-Cryptid]

Micro cassettes specifically

[@Kutomi1]

CDs nuts

[@jynxce]

@@Cassette-Cryptid How are you getting micro cassettes? Soundwave and Blaster are both disguised as boomboxes which both used magnetic cassette tapes. They were not mini cassette players that you could walk around in the palm of your hand.

[@Cassette-Cryptid]

@@jynxce Blaster is a boom box, but Soundwave is based on a late '70's-early '80's Song Micro Cassette Recorder. Just, Google it

[@Cassette-Cryptid]

​​@@jynxceBlaster does turn into a boom box, but Soundwave turns into a (late '70's-early '80's) Sony Micro Cassette Recorder, seriously, just google it Also, Spike literally picks up Soundwave in the palm of his hand in one of the first episodes of G1

[@blowba]

When they killed Optimus Prime, he stayed dead for a while on the show. At first, they brought him back as kind of a zombie, then they brought him back permanently.

[@markvega4320]

Then they killed Optimus again in the history of Beast Wars Transformers.

[@HanSime]

@@markvega4320 First they “had everyone forget” about him and made a living mobile suit out of him and his trailer and gave him a second trailer (God Ginrai aka Powermaster Optimus Prime). Then they made a lion backpack for Star Saber (Victory Leo) out of him. Eh, what can you do.

[@rendalconstantineau1680]

Several of the Autobots that get taken out in the movie were main characters from the original series.

[@sidsigmaprime6347]

The sad fact is, in my heart this is my favorite movie of all time. Keep up the good job, bud

[@TONES44]

Awesome fact you mean!

[@jeffreymiller6847]

you arent alone

[@Godravage]

Mine too.

[@erosdelcarpio5]

Top 3 for me

[@TheKrensada]

Nothing sad about that. This movie is metal.

[@dargron7614]

"Why do they turn into what they do?" Real World - Because the toys came first and the story was created to fit them. The original Transformers were made up from two separate transforming toylines that Hasbro imported from Japan and rebranded as "The Transformers". The first was "Diaclone" which were most of the vehicles, Dinobots and Insecticons - they were all designed to be mechs and had little compartments where a tiny plastic pilot could sit. The second was "Micro Change" which were intended to be tiny alien robots who disguise themselves as 1:1 scale objects you might find around the house - Gun (Megatron), Micro Cassette Recorder (Soundwave/Blaster) with micro cassettes, Microscope (Perceptor), Penny Racers (Bumblebee/Cliffjumper), etc. In Universe - Because they are "Robots in Disguise", and to quote one of the characters from the show "Besides, it sure beats walking". In the first episode, when the original Transformers crashed on earth they were all damaged, so as their ship repaired them it scanned the nearby area in 1984 to find new forms for them to transform into to help blend in and adapt to the new environment (the ship may even have mistaken these machines for the local life forms, given that it came from a planet of living machines). So their earth transformations are rather random, but they all make full use of what they were given.

[@toddjones1480]

The same thing happened in the Bay movies, except in those they just instantly changed themselves, while in the '80s the ship partially rebuilt their bodies.

[@The_Real_Mr_Al]

@@toddjones1480 The ability for Transformers to personally scan an altmode was introduced in the Beast Machines show, many years before the Bay movies.

[@seant1326]

@@The_Real_Mr_Al I don’t remember them scanning new modes in Beast Machines, it did happen in Armada.

[@toddjones1480]

@@The_Real_Mr_Al I've tried watching Beast Wars, but I just couldn't get past the hideous animation even when the show was new. I mentioned Bay because he's most peoples' reference for Transformers.

[@The_Real_Mr_Al]

@@seant1326 Nightscream explains in BM that Maximals got upgraded with internal scanners while the BW cast were away from Cybertron.

[@rowantalmage]

I watched this in the cinema on opening weekend. I love to see a new generation adoring this insanity too.

[@John_Locke_108]

"This sounds like Monty Python" Nice catch my dude.

[@pattern2481]

Yes... those deaths were all main characters we grew up with.

[@XenoJehuty84]

Scarred us all then, still makes me tear up today... rest in peace warriors.

[@XenoJehuty84]

@@pattern2481 Trauma from start to finish.

[@havokan45]

as a kid watching this in the theater kids where talking and laughing tell Brawn was hit and when he hit the ground the theater got quiet you could hear a pin drop . PROWL was my favorite as a kid when he was hit i yelled F@@@ers you killed Prowl . when i saw it there was mostly kids both boys and girls and a couple adults and the theater was like 2/3 or 3/4 full it was at the Mall and cheaper because it was the noon showing .

[@Teletran35]

Until That idiot Michael Bay destroyed the transformers.Optimus Primes catch phrase was "Autobots...Transform and Roll Out"

[@accywacky2699]

And after it's: "Give me your face!"

[@paulheap1982]

​@accywacky2699 and "we will kill them all".

[@JCinLapel]

Something you may not know but this was the last prformance of Orson Welles as Unicorn. He passed away weeks after the recording about 6 months before the movie was released.

[@dupersuper1938]

True story: a Trivial Pursuit game several years ago, me and two male friends against one of those friend's then girlfriend (now wife) and two of her female friends. *girl picks up a card, reads a question about the Transformers, pronouncing Unicron's name "unicorn"* *all 3 guys in complete unison, in the exact same tone of voice, without a moments' thought: "Unicron."* laughter follows

[@JCinLapel]

Yeah this is my generation

[@theevilascotcompany9255]

Also, a few of Unicron's lines had to be completed by Leonard Nimoy because of Welles's death.

[@thespaceram2879]

​@@theevilascotcompany9255 Welles completed all his lines. Nimoy didn't fill in for him.

[@TONES44]

This is The Transformers

[@Sabrecho]

Optimus never said "I am Optimus Prime" because, story-wise, _nobody_ didn't know him (therefore needs an intro).

[@channelwacke]

Well, he did actually say "I am Optimus Prime" in the first couple episodes of the series!

[@Cadeho3]

​@channelwacke I had to go and check because I swore he did, to Spike and Sparkplug, but he never introduces himself to them... only explained Decepticons and Autobots. I will look for a spot but I swore he did.

[@JCinLapel]

every dead character that you see their face were all supporting characters in the TV show and had their own disconnuntued toy. It felt like they were braking your favorite toys in front of you.

[@jawbone78]

Yeah, and apparently it took the toy execs quite by surprise when the movie came out and kids were upset about the characters being killed. They just thought of them as products, and they thought that killing off all the old toys and promoting a bunch of new ones would make kids set aside their old ones and demand their parents buy them new ones. The thought that kids would actually identify with and have formed emotional attachments with them as characters literally never even crossed their minds. The animated series they'd been producing for the last couple of years was never meant to tell compelling stories or feature relatable, interesting characters; they were literally nothing but extended toy commercials to them.

[@JCinLapel]

@@jawbone78 Yeah it was the WIld Wild west of the first cross marketing. This was one of the first time cartoons were allowed to make toys of it and toys to make 30min adds calling them cartoons. Parents did not understand how we could transform them but we looked at the cartoon that did the transformations the same way.

[@jimberjamber8540]

As a long-time Transformers fan, I really hope someday they bring back Rodimus Prime. Originally they were supposed to replace Optimus Prime with him, but they didn't realize how popular he actually was at the time. The suits only saw him as a toy, not a character that kids love and idolize. I think Hot Rod deserves his spotlight though.

[@lordmortarius538]

Rodimus was great, Season 2 was great too, showcasing his growth as a leader from a reckless Hot Rod into a true Prime. If a new show were done... keep it far, FAR away from Hollywood and Michael Bay

[@stormtreeproductions6477]

Agree

[@redstarleo]

Hot Rod is my favorite. #HotRodDidNothingWrong. The big thing blocking Hot Rod from getting a good live action appearance is that the Bayverse Bumble Bee is basically Hot Rod with a yellow paint job.

[@accywacky2699]

@@lordmortarius538 I mean... he was pretty horrible at being an effective leader for the autobots in the ensuing season. The only reason Galvatron didnt run rings around the guy is that he suffered literal brain damage after being hurled through space by rodimus, landing in a lava bath on some distant planetoid and well... he went insane which made him more dangerous for those who followed him and actually less dangerous for the autobots. Rodimus constantly doubting himself and being indecisive and generally making the wrong choice when he did make one... well, bad leader vs insane leader balanced out more or less.

[@beyonderbill3409]

I'm not 9 years old anymore, but this movie still gives me goosebumps and tears. One of the best soundtracks ever(aside from Highlander)! Also, to Hell with Michael Bay, Roberto Orci, and Alex Kurtzman and everything they stand for. That is all.

[@taqresu5865]

I was born in the 90s, but I have a fantastic dad who introduced me to a lot of the awesome stuff he grew up with (including Highlander). I watched this movie on a 20th Anniversary DVD,

[@rubensalvador9422]

You know, another animated 80's movie filled with rock music is Heavy Metal. (It's not for kids). As for this movie, it devastated me when so many Transformers, including Optimus die. Also in the TV show, Spike is a young construction worker, who with his dad befriends the Transformers. Note: Galvatron was voiced by Leonard Nimoy.

[@theevilascotcompany9255]

Just for context, the human dad "Spike" is essentially the same character as Shia Laboeuf's "Sam" in the Michael Bay movies, except grown up, married and with a kid of his own.

[@IggyStardust1967]

Yeah, and we assume it was Carley as Danial's mother, but I don't recall seeing her after season 2, but it's been a while since I watched the series. I really should do a rewatch, as I have it one DVD.

[@theevilascotcompany9255]

@@IggyStardust1967 Carly does show up at least once after Season 2 as Spike's future wife, and is heavily implied to be Daniel's mother.

[@IggyStardust1967]

@@theevilascotcompany9255 Thank you! Like I said, I really need to do a re-watch. I just need to reset my computer's DVD drive for Region 1. I've had it set for Europe since I have a few DVDs that won't play on Region 1 drives.

[@GrayskullPrime]

​@@IggyStardust1967Carly was in I think 3 episodes of season 3. Five Faces of Darkness part 1, Mad Man's Paradise and Nightmare Planet.

[@youwayo]

@@GrayskullPrimei think she also appears in Headmasters

[@visionaryventures12]

The Bay movies are no where near the original lore!

[@TANKTREAD]

The Bay movies are an embarrassment to Transformers.

[@DanRamosDR]

Agreed.

[@UltraViolent21]

The bay movies didn’t even make sense.

[@junkerpain251]

Michael bay walks the streets in fear, hoping he don't run into an og transformer fan. He will get his ass whooped

[@DanRamosDR]

@@junkerpain251 I dunno about whooped, but he would never hear the end of it the entire time. I would probably start flooding him with OG lore until he disappears. Heh

[@alasdairgardiner2313]

Frank Welker voiced Megatron. Galvatron was voiced by Leonard Nimoy. Ironically, Frank Welker provided some of Spock's screams in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, which you have already seen.

[@jamessinclair2898]

Frank Welker also returned to play Galvatron in seasons 3 and 4 of the show. Nimoy's only other performance in Transformers was as Sentinel Prime in Dark of the Moon.

[@lordmortarius538]

One major note about this film: it was meant by Hasbro to be a sendoff to all the toy models they were discontinuing (Like Prowl, Ratchet, Ironhide, Wheeljack, Brawn etc) by killing them off in the cartoon continuity so they could introduce the new lines including Hot Rod, Springer, Wheelie, Galvatron, etc. They hadn't counted on the fact that the series was so good that kids across the nation had become attached to many of these characters, most notably Optimus Prime, and were absolutely bombarded with angry letters from parents after this movie because of Prime's death, so ultimately they decided to bring him back in a later season of the show (season 3 IIRC). The planet that Unicron ate at the start is called Lithone, and the transforming robots there (unknown if any relation to Cybertron) would supply both sides of the war with medical supplies. Jazz and Cliffjumper are voiced by the iconic Scatman Crothers and Casey Kasem. Blurr is voiced by John Moschitta, an iconic fast-talker from the 80's who is famous for the Micro Machines commericals back then. Hot Rod is voiced by Judd Nelson, who was also John Bender in The Breakfast Club. Additionally, Peter Cullen voices another Autobot, Ironhide, he just does him with a southern twang :P The voice of Megatron, Frank Welker, also voices Fred Jones from Scooby-Doo, Ray Stantz and Slimer in The Real Ghostbusters cartoon, and so many more, and personally I like his rendition the best because I feel like Megatron has a more sinister, megalomaniacal bent to him, and later iterations of the Megatron voice are more brutish and bestial and I don't like it. Galvatron's voice actor for the film is Leonard Nimoy. In the later seasons of the G1 show it was Frank Welker who took over once more, with a different twist to the voice of course. Daniel Witwicky is the character for all of us kids back then who was our self-insert, so we could be like "Man, if I were Daniel I'd kick some ass too!" Kup is named Kup because he's a picKUP truck :P albeit a Cybertronian one. The Sharkticons are the servants of the Quintessons (the five-faced dudes), who are the creators of Cybertron and the Autobots and Decepticons (the former being laborers and the latter being gladiators). Springer, Blitzwing, and Astrotrain are the first Triple-changers, who have two vehicle modes as well as their robot mode. I had Blitzwing as a kid and he was super fun to play with There also IS an alligator transformer, a G1 Predacon named Megalligator. No relation to Megatron Those aren't VHS tapes, they're audio cassettes that were played in tape decks. Blaster (a ghetto blaster aka boombox) and Soundwave (a Walkman tape deck) had a whole cadre of each. The ones shown here are Rumble, Frenzy, Ravage, and Ratbat for the Decepticons, and Eject, Rewind, Ramhorn, and Steeljaw for the Autobots. And of course they looked like 80's technology. They're Robots _in disguise_ , that's the whole point :P The Dinobots were built by Ratchet and Wheeljack after the latter had found data on Earth's fossil record and thought that modeling new robots on those great lizards would add their great strength to the Autobots' cause. They proved too willful and hard to control, though, resentful of being the Autobots 'big stick' and then ignored the rest of the time. Grimlock stated that he would fight only when _he_ chose to, and they fucked off to some deserted island with live dinosaurs still on it, heh. Their names are Grimlock, Slag, Sludge, Snarl, and Swoop. Devastator was the first of the Combiners, a gestalt robot form made up of the Constructicons: Hook, Bonecrusher, Long Haul, Mixmaster, Scrapper, and Scavenger. Before the war, they had helped build the Crystal City on Cybertron, along with their friend Omega Supreme, who became the protector of the city. During the war before the flight to Earth, however, the Constructicons merged into Devastator, a mindless force of destruction (ironic that they had to give up their creative intellects to form a brute beast), who went on a rampage and destroyed the Crystal City while Omega Supreme was tricked into leaving it. When he found out, Omega swore an undying vengeance upon Devastator, and will ally with the Autobots if it means it will bring him closer to exacting justice on his former friends.

[@IggyStardust1967]

One thing that's always "bugged" me about the whole Quintesson story, is that it kinda conflicts with the "Vector Sigma" story arc from (IIRC) Season 2, where the Aerealbots and Stunticons were created and given life. Does it mean that the Quintessons created Vector Sigma, or are we just ignoring that which sits at the center of Cybertron? We never did get an answer to that.

[@Mehetti]

@@IggyStardust1967 ive always headcannoned the quintessons conquered an early cybertronian civilization and rewrote their history causing this discrepancy. Easier to rule an enslaved race by claiming you created them outright

[@MICjordanTPR]

Good summary! Only correction is that the G1 Decepticon alligator was Skullcruncher from season 4/the Headmasters. There was also the non-transforming Action Master Krok who had an alligator companion and was retconned into having a crocodile altmode (and being a headmaster) in the Titans Return toyline. Megalligator is the Japanese release of the original green crocodile Megatron Beast Wars toy, but as a different character from both G1 and BW Megatron. And yes, according to the American 2-pack's pack-in comic lore (before the TV show made them the originals' descendants), Beast Wars Megatron (gator) and Optimus Primal (bat) were in fact the original characters in new forms.

[@youwayo]

The Killing of Optimus Prime is a cautionary tale: Take care of your beloved fictional characters. While there are benefits in killing Prime in terms of story telling, the reality is that Hasbro got rid of him just to make way to sell new toys (I feel like Dinobot’s death in Beast Wars was handled a bit better imo). Imagine if Lucasfilm made a Star Wars sequel Trilogy and carelessly got rid of the old cast just to make way for new characters we barely know or care about. Oh wait…

[@JeremiahEcks777]

​@@youwayoYeah, Disney didn't pay attention to this cautionary tale, like you say.

[@radwolf76]

So in the transformers Generation 1 continuity, the Autobots and Decepticons crash landed on Earth in prehistoric times and were all knocked offline until sometime in the early 80s an earthquake reactivated the computer of the crashed ship. to repair and bring all the Cybertronians back on line, the computer sent out a probe to scan for things that could be made into appropriate alt modes for each robot, trying to find close matches for their previous alt modes they had on Cybertron. Soundwave had been an espionage specialist, so the probe found a local primitive audio recording device and gave him that as an alt mode. The Dinobots came later, when the Autobots wanted to create additional robots to fill their ranks, and decided to model them on fossils found at their ship's crash site.

[@coffeeveins]

In the comics the computer was running on low power mode(can’t remember if it was slow charging or waiting for something to restore full power) and the dinobots were all it could manage to bring back online to defend the ship in prehistoric times when it detected the decepticon Shockwave come looking for the missing decepticons and autobots. It gave them dinosaur alt modes to match the local wildlife. Also in the comics, the Matrix of leadership was originally the source code of the first transformer to become sentient/self aware and thus could be used as a shortcut to make any new robots built truly alive by jump starting their AI. Added to and developed over time, it was the most advanced program they had and thus was able to hack Unicrons programming to self destruct.

[@jebbarr3740]

There were three seasons of the show. Two seasons were before the movie and were set int he 1980's with Spike as a teenager. The third season picks up after the movie. Galvatron is a main character and Unicron's head becomes important in a couple of episodes. Even Starscream's ghost is around! They do eventually bring Optimus Prime back because fans were so upset by his death.

[@IggyStardust1967]

Technically, there IS a Season 4, but it's very short, and begins the "Headmasters" arc/toy line.

[@jebbarr3740]

@@IggyStardust1967 Yes that's true, and if you want to get even MORE technical, that season 4 continued with new episodes in Japan.

[@cheeeeeeeef]

Yes in the 80s as a child we all had our minds blown and everyone cried. Also Optimus wasn't a psychopath like in the Bay films, in the cartoons/movie/comics

[@Lexi_Zone]

Spike is basically the Sam of the original cartoon. They even have the same surname I think!

[@toddjones1480]

Before either of them there was a Buster Witwicky in the Marvel comics. The comics and cartoon Witwicky kids both had dads who went by Sparkplug.

[@RC-nv4bh]

25:33 Energon not only gives them energy, it also comes with an intoxicating effect. Hence why they were dancing and all happy 😊

[@simonhassnilsson7009]

This Definitely explains the episode where the Deceptions all get drunk as a skunk

[@cra0422]

The original Transformers cartoon debuted in 1984. This movie came out in 1986 and is essentially season 2.5, despite there being a 20 year timeskip. The purpose of the cartoon was to sell toys. Hasbro wanted to get rid of the 1984 and 1985 released characters to make way for the 1986 and 1987 releases, but what they didn't realize the cartoon had taken on a life of it's own. Kids were buying the toys of their favorite cartoon characters rather than seeing their favorite toys on television. Optimus Prime's death was a HUGE blow that traumatized thousands of kids. You'll hear stories about kids having to leave because they were crying so much, which were true. When I saw this movie in the theater, I still cannot to this day remember any of it after Optimus's death. That's how hard it hit me. Fact: Peter Cullen, the voice actor of Optimus Prime, was told by his brother, a decorated Marine and Vietnam War veteran, that when voicing the character, he should "make him strong enough to be gentle".

[@daves6554]

Another related fact to this (not sure if mentioned below) - GiJoe had a similar animated movie made, and it ran on some similarities in plot - Duke one of the beloved leaders was supposed to die in it (and based upon what you see in the animation, it alludes to it) -- however because of the SHEER force of reaction to the Optimus Prime death in this movie... GiJoe plot-wise was changed to "Duke's in a coma" and they announce (audio-only) at the end that he makes a full recovery.

[@cra0422]

@@daves6554 Yeah, G.I. Joe was marketed towards a slightly older demographic than Transformers, the 10-12 age group vs the 6-8. Even though G.I. Joe had no fatalities, you still saw people get injured to point out war isn't a game. The original script always called for Duke to die, but the Joe movie was delayed in production so Transformers came out before it. After the backlash from Transformers, the script was changed so Duke survived.

[@JHulse29]

"Make him strong enough to be gentle" was key, cause the other voice actors were trying to voice Optimus like an angry batman type voice. But Cullen had this gentle but deep strength to his voice. It just screams "good guy" to me and was prob a big reason he got the part

[@channelwacke]

You nailed it - this movie was downright shocking to us as kids. We spent 2 seasons with these characters, and few of them survived. And yes, this is the most 80s movie ever, bar none, hands down. If you liked this, you should watch the original series on your own time. It's downright breezy by today's standards, and Hasbro has put it up on KZbin for free. It's worth a watch since you seem to enjoy the movie so much. (By the way, this movie takes place between seasons 2 and 3, with a significant time jump.)

[@aaroncoffman88]

One joke not a lot of people get is Starscream is known for creating grandious plans and then his stupidity and ego get in the way. Another way of saying that is "Is shooting yourself in the foot." Something Starscream literally does in this movie

[@deruka7820]

not just his grandious plans, but also that he's actually a highly competent combatant. he's the leader of his sub-team for a reason. but as you said, his stupidity and ego keep getting in the way

[@IggyStardust1967]

Ollie, my man, I saw this movie in theaters back when it released. I was 19 at the time. You are correct, there was indeed a tv show. The Movie was set between seasons 2 and 3, and there was a time jump between season 2 and the movie. Like the series, the movie was basically a story based advertisement for the toys. I had most of them, as well. But when Optimus died in the movie, every kid in the theater I was in was crying their eyes out, and parents ended up taking them home before the end of the movie. The theater I was in was packed when the movie started, but half of the audience left not long after Optimus' death scene. Also, this soundtrack is an absolute BANGER from start to finish. I have bought this movie in every format it released on, including VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray, and Digital. I listen to the soundtrack quite often, and I honestly consider it to be the best soundtrack of any movie ever made. There is one thing I have to correct you on, though. Soundwave and Blaster's cassettes are actually audio cassettes, not VHS tapes. They are able to record video, but they do that digitally. Remember, the cassette form is simply their disguise, not their function. Lastly, there was such an outcry by angry parents that the producers of the show had to resurrect Optimus Prime in season 3, in a multi-part episode titled "Dark Awakening", and "The Return of Optimus Prime".

[@leannerose6181]

The soundtrack is a banger; Blur played by the Micromachines Guy😂 Being a kid in the 80s and having your mind blown by the Micromachines commercials was awesome; was he really talking that fast?😂

[@michaelconnor1542]

The random Weird Al song for the Wrectacons had me cheering in the theater. Dare To Be Stupid is one of my favorite songs.

[@lordmortarius538]

They're the Junkions, led by Wreck-Gar (Eric Idle), the Wreckers were a different group.

[@michaelconnor1542]

@@lordmortarius538 my mistake.

[@Daltinian95]

So what happened to Ultra Magnus was supposed to be a lot darker in the original cut. He was supposed to be drawn and quartered by the sweeps, hence why they're beams that came out of their blasters was a solid stream instead of just a rapid blaster fire. They just cut to him getting hit by a few shots and then exploding which didn't make much sense

[@JeremiahEcks777]

It's still in the comic adaptation.

[@TheKyrix82]

"I was not meaning actually die Optimus!" Too late! You jinxed it! You destroyed all our childhoods! You killed Optimus Prime! Yeah, this starts a long, long trend of Optimus dying.

[@dexoearth9167]

Although, in the case of the aligned continuity, we all wish he stayed dead following Predacons Rising.

[@Kutomi1]

​@@dexoearth9167He did. RID2015 never happened, wdym?

[@dexoearth9167]

@Kutomi1 You are right, RID2015 was an elaborate mass fever dream.

[@visionaryventures12]

This was the first mention of the matrix. This movie came out after the second season. A short first season, followed by a five day per week second season. After the movie was a third season, followed by a three episode fourth season.

[@dkfrito]

Yup, might also be worth noting that there were also several Japanese only seasons that took place after season 3

[@JeremiahEcks777]

Hmm, was it really the first mention of the Matrix though? Didn't the Marvel comic mention one in 1985, a year before the movie came out? I know they're slightly different things, later retconned to be the same thing, but...

[@visionaryventures12]

@@JeremiahEcks777 The Creation Matrix was mentioned in the comic book. Good point. I meant in the animated series. The Creation Matrix was different than what was in the movie and season three. It was more of an energy. Well, I don’t know if we ever saw it in the comics before the movie release. In early issues of the comics, it was bestowed through an energy beam from Optimus to Buster, to reside within his head. It was capable of bestowing life to new Transformers.

[@JeremiahEcks777]

@@visionaryventures12 Absolutely agree with you; the Creation Matrix and Matrix of Leadership were initially different but were eventually retconned into the same thing. Which makes Key to Vector Sigma weirder now, all of a sudden... I think the comic came first. It's possible Hasbro, Dille or Freidman liked the name and lifted it or it was just a happy coincidence for Furman to later retcon and combine the two... not sure. When it showed up physically, it used the movie design / concept, but wasn't seen physically before the movie. As you say, it was more a programme than a MacGuffin.

[@Sabrecho]

Another thing that blows me away is that it was primarily *hand-drawn* in order to capture the visual essence of an 80's Saturday Morning Cartoon.

[@supercloudreed]

Fun fack: most of the brite colors the show up they lift them clear and use a color film and a light behind it

[@RC-nv4bh]

Yup I cried along with bunch of other like minded kids in the theaters when Optimus died. Looking back at it now, this movie had BALLS!

[@williammolla3591]

Same I was 21 when I saw it in the theaters. Now that I am 59 tears still come but now at the start of Optimus Primes fight against Megatron. live long and prosper Peter Cullen.

[@jondbm]

Spike Witwicky was the lead character as a teenager in the original cartoon. This movie, set years later, has him as an adult. When Michael Bay made his movie he didn't like the name Spike so changed it to Sam!

[@RolyPolyOllieReactions]

Spike is so much cooler than Sam!!

[@jimberjamber8540]

@@RolyPolyOllieReactions And Spikes dads name was Sparkplug. Even cooler lol.

[@Daltinian95]

​@@RolyPolyOllieReactions they had the same last name too, Witwicky. Spike actually helped the Autobots out a lot in the first two seasons. There was an episode season 2 that was pretty dark with Spike and kind of depressing.

[@thespaceram2879]

​@@Daltinian95 You mean Autobot Spike episode.

[@Matacron]

Watching you fawn and gush over my favorite movie of all time just earned you a subscription. I am of the generation that grew up with the original Transformers cartoon and toys, and yes, there was a television show that ran for to seasons before the movie, and two seasons after it. I've never been sure whether or not one could watch the movie without any prior context, though. One thing, though: Blaster and Soundwave's minions transformed from CASSETTE tapes, not VHS tapes. Soundwave and blaster were both communications experts, and transformed into a tape recorder and a boom box. Hence, cassette tapes.

[@CrimsonRevenant666]

Leonard Nimoy voiced Galvatron

[@GoGojiraGo]

The first of many deaths of Optimus Prime. He's died at least once in every single continuity except for one: 2001's Car Robots aka Robots in Disguise, and he still came extremely close to dying there. This movie was the genesis of so much of what's in Transformers today: Unicron, Optimus's death, Starscream dying and becoming a ghost, the Matrix of Leadership, the Quintessons, and so much more.

[@MattMeadowsDesigns]

Awesome reaction! I've loved this movie since first watching it in the 80s on VHS (i was due to watch it at the cinema but couldnt because i got hit by a car and ended up in hospital!). Having first watched the first 2 seasons of the show and grown to love Optimus, Ironhide, Prowl, Ratchet, Brawn, Wheeljack etc. it was truly devastating to see them killed in the movie! By the way, 'More than meets the eye' is the 3 part first story of season 1 of the Transformers cartoon and explains how they got to Earth and how they got their transform modes. Its worth a watch - the animation is similar just not as detailed, with less shadowing. Also, several episodes of the series also explain the origin of the Dinobots and how they came to be, that would certainly answer your question about them! Great reaction, im still holding out for reactors to react to seasons 1 and 2.

[@taqresu5865]

I'm a Millennial who was introduced to this movid through the 20th Anniversary DVD.

[@NaanProphet]

What a surprise to see today, one of my favorites! The score by Vince Dicola is legendary. It's a fun mess of a movie to watch out of context, but having spent years with the characters, it was heartbreaking seeing them gunned down in favor of new toys... er, i mean "characters." And yeah, Megatron did change voices, he became Spock!

[@serinx]

not VHS tapes so much... audio cassette tapes.

[@gooner442]

I'm 41 and this is still my favorite movie, completely unashamedly. No death in any movie can hit as hard after you see prime die as a kid, no sound track is better and only Thor entering the wakanda battle comes close to how pumped this movie makes me feel.

[@Godravage]

Those Autobots that died in the shuttle were MAJOR characters from the first two seasons of the series. Matter of fact, two of them made it into the live action films: Iron Hide and Ratchet.

[@rainbowpegacornstudios]

I really don't like seeing Optimus die in any incarnation. He's my #1 favorite Autobot/Transformer, but damn if he didn't have a really great final fight against Megatron. Also....The universal greeting is understood by most creatures in the galaxy. It can be roughly translated to "Hello, we mean you no harm," or "We come in peace," or "Do you hate dirtwad Decepticons as much as we do?" Also, I love how Weird Al Yankovic went from singing "Dare to Be Stupid" which I regard as the National Anthem of The Junkions to actually playing the Junkions' leader Wreck-Gar in Transformers Animated.

[@anthonymonaghan4964]

7:48 that was not drugs that was John Moschitta Jr. the fastest talking man on earth .. also known from the 80's Micro Machines toy commercials

[@Sabrecho]

So, we might get "Transformers One" on the channel then? :) Earth-based Alt Forms: 'Bots and 'Cons both crashed on Earth, they died/put into comas for a few million years, then the autobot startship's computer finished rebooting and scanned nearby "stuff" as a basis for repairing everyone. (Idiot computer revived a 'Con first, but then there'd be no 80's cartoon if it fixed up an Ally first.)

[@woogha]

I have seen this movie more times than any other film in my life. It was my babysitter VHS when I was little. It is committed to memory.

[@joebloggs2534]

This was the first movie I ever watched as a child in the 80s, and today is still my most beloved movie. I've seen it so many times I can recite it word for word, and could watch it over and over again never getting bored. Nostalgia feels for real.

[@RodimusPrime]

I was 5 years old in 1986 and this was the first movie I ever saw in a theatre. It was my first experience with death. Optimus was so beloved by kids in the 80s in a way that I cant explain. To this day I've never been more emotional about any on screen death.

[@derrickhuerta]

The one who plays Blurr is the Micro Machines promoter. His self taught speed talking got him the role.

[@michaelpapp5518]

Fun fact, in season the original cartoon, a few Transformers were voiced by Harcourt Fenton Mudd himself, Roger C Carmel!

[@thespaceram2879]

Motormaster, Bruticus, el Capitan that bargains with Swindle in the bot episode, Cyclonus, Unicron, Quintesson in season 3

[@LordMJ]

As for why the Transformers turn into the forms they do, watch the first episode of the cartoon, "More than Meets the Eye", and it will give the in universe explanation. The Michael Bay films also have a similar but somewhat different reason for their forms.

[@ShawnRavenfire]

The in-universe explanation for their alternate forms is that the first transformers to arrive on Earth were damaged in a ship crash, and their automated repair system scanned the local environment for points of reference, hence trucks, cars, guns, tape decks, fighter jets, etc. The Dinobots were an experiment built on earth after Wheeljack was looking at dinosaur fossils. Some of the later additions to the show, however, they basically just skipped over the explanation. (The Constructicons even had multiple back stories.)

[@dunkyvslife7447]

Unicron was Orson Welles final role. Gangsta!

[@johnnyb.5281]

@9:44 Fun Fact: the line, "I've got better things to do tonight than die." was a tag line for AA recovery a little while after this.

[@jasonpdsi]

I feel like watching the movie in 2024 without having at least watched seasons one and two, if not actually being alive and growing up in the 80s, robs one of the emotional impact this film had on those of us who were there.

[@TheRavenArchon]

As others have pointed out, all the characters that either died or got reformatted were all the main characters of the TV series. The _reason_ they were killed off was so they could do a new series with all new characters. Hot Rod (Rodimus Prime), Kup, Springer, etc, these were all brand new toys they wanted to market. Bumblebee and Jazz survived the transition because they were fan favorites, and the backlash to Optimus’ death so was severe they brought him back in the very next season.

[@EnerKaizer]

A few things which many people don't know because they aren't aware of the fact this movie in fact was canon to the original TV show: you mentioned already that Unicron at the end was blind. This in fact got picked up in the third season of the cartoon series, which tkes place after the movie. Unicrons head became a moon for cybertron, and he partially came back to life, and tried to construct a new body for himself, starting with replacements for his eyes. The same episode revealed another wild thing: One of the few survivors of the movie. Starscream was revealed in season 3 to be immortal. Because, back then, Transformers was part of Marvel comics as well, and Starscream was implied to have been a cybertronian mutant. Mutant as in X-men like mutant, with his powers being that his "spark" (basically his soul) would never leave the mortal realm, and even granted him the ability to take over the bodies of weak minded Cybertronians. This way he became the one tasked by Unicron to gather him replacement parts, and waaaaay later down the line Strscream not only re-appeared in the sequel series "Transformers: Beast Wars", his immortality became part of the plot, where-in scientists tried to find out how his powers worked, and one result of this was the villain named Rampage, who was essentially a villain version fo the Hulk.

[@user-uo6cq1cp3u]

In a nutshell: Hasbro & the movie writers didn’t realize how attached kids had become to the show characters, they were just looking to eliminate the old toy product line and introduce new toys to sell. Because of children’s TV standards, NO ONE died on the show, so seeing 4 characters die within the first 10 minutes was jarring. Then Optimus dying resulted in angry parents walking out because their kids were traumatized, and a letter-writing campaign led to Optimus being resurrected later in the show. The reaction to Prime’s death also led to a change in GI Joe: The Movie, to avoid a similar backlash. GI Joe’s field commander Duke was supposed to die, but dialogue was added at the last minute saying that he went into a coma instead and came out of it at the end.

[@youwayo]

The Killing of Optimus Prime and crew is a cautionary tale: Take care of your beloved fictional characters. While there are benefits in killing Prime in terms of story telling, the reality is that Hasbro got rid of him just to make way to sell new toys. Imagine if Lucasfilm made a Star Wars sequel Trilogy and carelessly got rid of the old cast just to make way for new characters we barely know or care about. Oh wait…

[@user-uo6cq1cp3u]

@@youwayo Exactly. Flint Dille has admitted that the writers had no clue the characters were so beloved, and they were following Hasbro’s direction to eliminate the old characters to advertise new ones. It definitely was a strong lesson to Hasbro (and other toy companies) to be more careful how their characters are handled in media.

[@JackQSmith]

I'm sure it's been mentioned several times but this followed the first 2 seasons of the show. The first 2 took place in what was present day at the time (mid 80s). Then there was a time jump for the movie and the seasons that followed. Most of the characters that were killed off from both sides were main characters on the show and their toys sold very well initially but then stopped selling because anyone that wanted them already had them by this point. So the time jump and the purge acted as a soft reboot so they could feature new characters and sell more toys. Aside from the Dinobots, Soundwave and his cassettes and the Constructicons (and maybe a few more), most of the characters featured after the first act were brand new for the movie. Spike is basically Sam from the Bay movies. Even has the same last name. He was a teen during the first 2 seasons. He and his dad were main characters. I don't think we ever met his mother but if she ever made an appearance I'm sure she wasn't as annoying as she was in the Bay movies. I don't believe Spike's dad, Sparkplug, was ever mentioned after season 2. Fans were left to fill in the blanks however they wished. Maybe he died, maybe he was old and senile or whatever.

[@Believer1980]

The Dinobots were never the sharpest tool in the shed, however , the Movie and season 3 of Gen One, which took place after the Movie, made them comic relief and tuned down their power levels. The Dinobots were used by the Autobots as a last resort and the Decepticons feared them. In fact they could beat Devastator in the show and at worse fight it to a stand still. I do feel the Dinobots were done dirty here and in season 3. And to answer your question on the 'bots that died, yes most , if not all were main Autobots. Heck Wheeljack, who was one of the bodies Arcee was dragging into the building , was originally no meant to die. In fact in an early draft of the script, him and Arcee were to but heads throughout the movie, until they finally became a couple . Which is funny, as the movie hints greatly at a Arcee Hot Rod relationship, however that is then dropped in season 3 for Arcee and Springer. Another note, the Movie was meant to be more brutal then it is. Brawn, the first Autobot to die, was meant to have been blown in half, instead of the shot to the shoulder. Ultra Magnus was meant to have been ripped apart by the Sweeps using laser ropes , and that can still be seen in the finished movie in the form of continuous beams from the Sweeps. Heck the Decepticon that that orders the Decepticons to Scramble was toy boarded to be crushed to death by Unicron.

[@UltraViolent21]

Devastators weakness is that he is in constant pain due to the stress of the constructicons combining. They can’t stay in Devastator mode for long.

[@arkayanon]

They turn into those things because they're Robots in Disguise. Part of the early concept was that they were trying to avoid being detected by the humans. That went out the window within the first few minutes of the first episode.

[@omegasoup4164]

The Transformers basically had to be repaired by a computer with randomly-ish selected alternate forms when they came to earth, so there’s not a “real” explanation for why they turn into cassettes and stuff, though Soundwave does use his Cassette player form to spy on people pretty often. The Dinobots were actually built on earth by Wheeljack and Ratchet (two of the Autobots that died in this movie) after Spike took them to see a museum and they took an interest in the dinosaurs

[@TrueKoalaKnight]

"I actually have chills" Now imagine seeing that in the theater at age 8.

[@danielmedela8725]

In-Universe reason for the vehicles, planes and cassttes: when their ship originally crashed on Earth (carrying both Megatron adn Optimus, as well as many others), the ship procceeded to scan Earth vehicles, comms devices, etc. just to make sure they could hide among stuff of Earth as it repaired them. Back in Cybertron, Bumblebee was a tiny UFO, and the Wolkswagen beetle was the closest thing to his alt-mode. Starscream was a tetrajet (similar to the ones in the Bumblebee movie intro) and so on. The Dinobots are just a result of young Spyke (still a teenager in season 2) taking Bumblebee and Autobot scientist Wheeljack (killed in this movie, you can see his corpse in Autobot city) to a museum and explaining dinosaurs to them. And nobody knows about the Insecticons....

[@azamonra]

The in-universe reason they transform into cars and such is because in the first episode we see they actually have sci-fi forms on Cybertron but when they end up on Earth their alt-forms are updated to local tech by the ship's computer, Teletraan 1, to blend in. The Dinobots were a later addition and have their own origins and generally the canon was pretty fast and loose back in the day.

[@tjppop2192]

They changed into cassette players and things cause the toys came before the show. They had a mix of various toys that transformed and created the show off the toys.

[@anthonymonaghan4964]

31:03 minor spoiler season 3 episode "Starscream's Ghost" shows that unicron's head still lives

[@D2SProductions]

They aren't VHS tapes they are Mini-Cassette tapes, like what used to be used in answering machines or dictation recorders, though there were a few rare boomboxes what used Mini-Cassettes as well, but most commonly they were used for answering machines and dictation recorders, and the Transformer cassettes were the same exact size at the Mini-Cassettes. The Transformers that died in the movie where main characters, and they died because Hasbro decided to discontinue them, that included Optimus Prime, but because there was a severe fan backlash they ended up bringing Optimus Prime back, but not using his original molds, they redesigned him as Powermaster Opimus Prime whose engine would transform into a mini companion named Hi-Q.

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

Blurr was voiced by John Moschitta Jr, a professional auctioneer and holder of the Guinness World Record for Fastest Talker. You might also know him from the 90s-era Micro Machines commercials. That isn't even the fastest he can talk! Moschitta returned to Transformers for Transformers Animated, once again voicing the character Blurr.

[@BEW419]

In the TV series the transformers were on their spaceship that crashed on Earth 4 million years ago. Once they 'woke up' in 1984 the ship's computer scanned Earth and altered the transformers to transform into Earth objects. "Robots in Disguise"

[@wersamurai]

Many of the kids shows in the 80's were made for toy sales, when it was time to release a whole new set, someone decided it would be a good idea to kill off the last set. A lot of kids cried at this movie.

[@joshrowe8629]

Your puns were on point today!

[@worthoggfilms1746]

Dude, those weren't VHS tapes, they were audio cassettes; and they transformed into those things to be able to hide in that era. Also, there was 2 to 3 years of cartoons before the movie that made us all fall in love with the characters before they crushed our hearts with this epic movie

[@aculdra41554]

I am 45 years old and I saw this movie when l was 7. Optimus dying was traumatic. Even my father cried.

[@kirkbecker9482]

Megatron is voiced by Frank Welker, who was also the voice of Fred from Scooby Doo. When Megatron is reformatted, his voice as Galvatron is done by Leonard Nimoy.

[@maureenleah13]

I watched this as a kid when it came out, and it’s a joy to relive it through the eyes of someone who’s never seen it before. Also - between this movie and Mr. Hooper from Sesame Street - these shows taught us about death and how unexpected and pointless it can be. And it hit hard, especially with Optimus’ death (though I loved all the other characters they unceremoniously killed off as well). I cried for days.

[@ArtsShadow2]

This was the start of a lot of 80s cartoon tropes. That moment after years when you see Spike grown up and in a power suit. 😆

[@DarkClaw0912]

13:23 - Every 80's kid that watched Transformers shed a tear when the happened.

[@bumblebeeb1276]

Hasbro made a dead corpus Optimus prime which is in a earthrise toy line re tooled couple years ago which is not release in stores but release online shopping

[@HunhowsShadowStalker]

Many of the Autobots and Deceptions killed in the movie were actual characters in the cartoon. They were killed because their toys weren't renewed for sale, so they had to be phased out.

[@maxacorn]

this movie tramatized a generation, myself included. i didn't watch this movie again until i was a grown up. you see, hasbro, the company that released the toys, wanted to create a new line of transformers and decided the best way to do it and introduce kids to the new characters was to kill them off in this movie. what they totally didn't understand was kids like me loved the characters and were upset by seeing them getting killed. especially with optimus prime. for my generation, prime wasn't just a toy. he was a icon, a role model, and a father figure. so after the movie's release, the company was swamped with phone calls and letters from parents, who said their kids cried after seeing prime die and even left the movie early because of it. this was so impactful that it actually affected another of their properties, "G.I. joe". that cartoon was gonna have a movie coming out the following year and they had to re-write the story because one of the characters, duke, was originally suppose to die and they didn't want another repeat of what happened with transformers. so yeah, "transformers" showed that the show wasn't just a ad for toys.

[@GriggsC123]

I was a kid when I saw this movie, every kid in the theater cried when Optimus Prime died, and screamed out of the theater.

[@savingstumps]

I love that Galvetron's voice actor Leonard Nimoy got a space shaceship shaped like a Enterprise.

[@fleed78]

Those were audio tapes not vhs. The reason they use such technology is because what today you see as old technology was actually state of the art technology in 1986 so it was obvious to integrate such tech in a more advanced imaginary enviroment... come on those audiotapes were transforming in to robots!!! That's where you see the hyper sci-fi element! No hints that you would need anything more advanced than tapes to manage data in 1986, since with audio tapes even in 1986 you could transfer actual computer data, so tapes were thought to be more integrated in the future, not extinct. That's the exact same reason you had tape storage technology on advanced starships in Star Trek generation one show.

[@fatmancomics]

All these young 'ens loving this movie almost 40 years later while those of us who watched it when it came out hated it.

[@Professor-of-Gaming]

This film remains iconic to this day because it really is one of a kind Never before or since has a children’s Saturday morning cartoon show so casually and brutally depicted the horrors of war Every body or casualty during the battle for autobot city are main characters we’d all seen for dozens or hundreds of episodes. The autobot on the shuttle to start were the main autobots besides Prime, Jazz, and Bumblebee. Ironhide was 2 and he got blasted point blank For me, I was a decepticon kid. My favorites were starscream and megatron so you can imagine my roller coaster ride emotionally that film early on

[@inarar5334]

Something that doesn't get mentioned much about the gen1 TV show and the movie is that Spike was a kid in the show. To give newer viewers the time jump the movie was doing. Shia LaBeoufs character in the Bay movies is kinda of a mash up of Spike Witwicky and his father from the show.

[@descepticon9213]

You have no idea how many main characters that were killed during this movie. My mouth was open the whole time as a kid.

[@dupersuper1938]

Optimus Prime got better over the future episodes of the show. Unfortunately the other Autobots that died did not.

[@StarFighters76]

There is a show before and after the movie. The events of the movie takes place 20 years after Season 2, and the five-part premiere of Season 3 is a follow up to the movie.