The Untold Story of TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE

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Chris McFeely

Chris McFeely

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@myriadmediamusings
@myriadmediamusings 11 ай бұрын
At the SDCC 2023 panel's trivia portion, Mr Flint Dille was asking us in the audience what the original title of the Transformers movie script. I was the only one to raise my hand and answer that it was Transformers: The Secrets of Cybertron. I was surprised that I was the only one to get it, and even more surprised that my prize for winning was a copy of the dead Ironhide & Prowl Buzzworthy Bumblebee pack.
@adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo1749
@adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo1749 11 ай бұрын
Congrats, have corpses
@Prime-Productions
@Prime-Productions 11 ай бұрын
If this isn’t sarcasm that’s hilarious😂
@myriadmediamusings
@myriadmediamusings 11 ай бұрын
@@Prime-Productions Nah yeah true story, there is a YT video of the panel and at the 31:00 mark is where it happens.
@japanesepokemoncardsbuydir9657
@japanesepokemoncardsbuydir9657 11 ай бұрын
A copy ? So a KO then.
@Jeddostotle7
@Jeddostotle7 11 ай бұрын
@@japanesepokemoncardsbuydir9657 no, "a copy" as in "a single specimen of a widely-produced work or item", the same way you'd say it for a book or movie or something. "a copy of Grapes of Wrath" or "a copy of Terminator", etc.
@Troublethecat
@Troublethecat 11 ай бұрын
It's always confused me how Hasbro created the Transformers cartoon in the first place to get kids attached to the characters enough to beg their parents to buy the toys, but then they were shocked that kids were upset at the characters being killed so they could sell new toys.
@christophermire3872
@christophermire3872 11 ай бұрын
There were so many better ways they could have handled that. They could have been sucked through a wormhole never to be seen again. Or they could have done the same thing they did when they introduced all those new characters in season 2. Just have them not appear again and not explain it at all. 😂
@brianng8350
@brianng8350 11 ай бұрын
That is what happens when you have corporate greed that doesn’t understand the audience. They should never work on children related stuff.
@benreilly9513
@benreilly9513 11 ай бұрын
“Dry your eyes, and buy Rodimus Prime.”
@Troublethecat
@Troublethecat 11 ай бұрын
@@christophermire3872 I mean to be fair they couldn't do that second thing with Optimus Prime because he's leader of the Autobots and basically the main character of the first two seasons. They still could have gotten rid of him without killing him, especially killing him in a way that kinda made it the fault of the guy who replaced him. I don't know how that part ended up being something that survived through all the revisions into the final movie. They could've just had the characters whose toys were being discontinued leave earth for some reason like they ended up doing with Rodimus's crew in Headmasters.
@clownplayer7265
@clownplayer7265 11 ай бұрын
They underestimated the attachment. They assumed kids are fickle minded no matter what, ignoring that they did a great job creating a connection between the characters and the audience, especially Optimus Prime. Plus, Optimus' dead scene takes itself with reverence and seriousness even modern movies tend to lack, and even other characters' demise are notably taken with enough gravitas to the situation, the shuttle members Ironhide specially are killed and we can see the decepticons are indeed pieces of work, Arcee contemplating the bodies of Windcharger and Wheeljack is fast but enough to showcase how brutal the battle is getting, and even after the jokes Starscream's death serves to highlight they're dealing with a new threat they cannot underestimate.
@ProfDragonite
@ProfDragonite 11 ай бұрын
Star Wars, Weird Al, Orson Welles, the death of Prime... It's amazing how a TOY COMMERCIAL, of all things, could create something so iconic.
@tylerbertram7065
@tylerbertram7065 11 ай бұрын
Don't forget a Monty Python member and Mr Spock
@manjackson2772
@manjackson2772 11 ай бұрын
Misread as idiotic at first. It's both for sure.
@Mecha82
@Mecha82 11 ай бұрын
Movie dared to be stupid and it was alright.
@liljenborg2517
@liljenborg2517 11 ай бұрын
Iconic? Traumatizing is what I remember. I still struggle to watch the movie because I can't get past the death of all these characters I loved, just because their toys had been discontinued. I picked up a few Transformers from friends who sold them off to me for a buck or two because they'd been so alienated by the movie. "At least we still have GI Joe," they said. And then THAT movie came out . . .
@jasonelliott7977
@jasonelliott7977 11 ай бұрын
This toy commercial took on a life of its own and became something more. We’re still talking about this movie almost forty years later.
@Chokun-Gaming
@Chokun-Gaming 11 ай бұрын
Rails sounds like a fun character, it's a shame he never left the concept stage
@brockbaby
@brockbaby 11 ай бұрын
It was a real toy in Japan (diaclone or such) . Hasbro never got around to prepping it for the US market.
@Chokun-Gaming
@Chokun-Gaming 11 ай бұрын
@@brockbaby can you tell me its name? A google search only shows me what was recolored into the trainbots
@manjackson2772
@manjackson2772 11 ай бұрын
@@Chokun-Gaming There was no train/bullet train/robot snake in the transformers line. The trainbots are probably what they were thinking of.
@doobles9253
@doobles9253 10 ай бұрын
Megatron just got a studio series toy based off of bumblebee concept art, maybe Rails has a chance of being a toy in the future (titan class pls hasbro)
@hexxxenmeister6069
@hexxxenmeister6069 9 ай бұрын
Odd choice for an autobot, giant fire breathing snake
@felmaster3534
@felmaster3534 11 ай бұрын
I want to see more of Cranix and Lithone. I reckon they'd be depicted as a colony world nowadays of Cybertronians who lost the ability to transform and had to rely on actual vehicles, but I would like the idea of a "cousin race" of robots.
@manjackson2772
@manjackson2772 11 ай бұрын
So... Action Masters?
@matthewsimpson5529
@matthewsimpson5529 11 ай бұрын
A Colony world that, after being cut off from Cybertron and the other Colonies, were forced to rely on Nucleon for power after running out of Energon, so they lose their ability to transform.
@AxeManOfSuburbia
@AxeManOfSuburbia 11 ай бұрын
I prefer the idea that Cybertronians are unique in their ability to transform because of the great war.
@allhailme8457
@allhailme8457 11 ай бұрын
I just think there are other mechanical races/species. We see some in Lithone, but we also see convergent mechanical animal species on the Quintesson planet. Cybertronians seem to be a species that can transform their bodies completely. Some stories say they had to learn to do it, but I think Primus created them from the beginning to have that capability.
@LoveableNerd
@LoveableNerd 11 ай бұрын
We already know that's not true. All the Quintesson guard robots, the Sharkticons, the Junkions. None were (originally) Cybertronian in oririn.@@AxeManOfSuburbia
@Katdad79
@Katdad79 11 ай бұрын
Someone needs to fully animate that first draft into an actual movie. I'd watch it.
@optimusgaming8629
@optimusgaming8629 11 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. But have it take place in an alternate universe
@darklordmalthric3633
@darklordmalthric3633 11 ай бұрын
Someone should start a petition to do just that
@theonewhowatches869
@theonewhowatches869 11 ай бұрын
Or maybe more realistically, pull a "The Star Wars" and adapt that first draft as a comic
@TheMegops81
@TheMegops81 11 ай бұрын
I would be down for that.
@myriadmediamusings
@myriadmediamusings 11 ай бұрын
@@theonewhowatches869Down for that for sure. It would most certainly be a better TF Movie what if comic than the actual what if TF Movie comic we got.
@Firedrake-SP
@Firedrake-SP 11 ай бұрын
It's sad that Rails and Tanker never made it in the spotlight.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 11 ай бұрын
What? No love for Mentlar?
@EvilCerealBoX
@EvilCerealBoX 11 ай бұрын
​@@videogollumeror chemo!
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 11 ай бұрын
@@EvilCerealBoX Why are you bringing the Metal Men's archnemesis into this? This isn't DC.
@EvilCerealBoX
@EvilCerealBoX 11 ай бұрын
@@videogollumer chemico* my bad.
@kinglord7707
@kinglord7707 11 ай бұрын
Maybe they will very soon
@TalentCaldwell
@TalentCaldwell 11 ай бұрын
My heart literally sank when the video says it was ending as I did not want it to end. This was absolutely captivating. Great job.
@Defx10
@Defx10 11 ай бұрын
The first draft actually sounds like the most compelling story of all. I think I really would have enjoyed that. I really like the idea of Unicron being trapped in an orbit, and the Earth sub-plot. Wish those ideas had stayed in the final movie.
@davidawilliams252
@davidawilliams252 18 күн бұрын
Yes. I think elements of the 1st and the 3rd would have been great. I hate Rusty and Claire (humans) involvement and I like that Spike and Daniel are in it.
@jonathanboetto8849
@jonathanboetto8849 11 ай бұрын
This is absolutely amazing. The revelation that Kranix was originally a stone-based Transformer named Granix makes so much sense. I've always wondered why his planet was called Lithone ("lithos" being the Greek word for stone), despite seemingly having nothing to do with stone. It would be kind of a fun callback if Kranix and Arblus (or "Granix") got Legacy United toys in the Infernac Universe to finally see this idea come to full fruition. Speaking of Infernac, I wonder if Mentlar's name was repurposed for the Inhumanoid, Metlar, when he was replaced by Perceptor...
@JustinWahlne
@JustinWahlne 11 ай бұрын
Forget Tigerhawk. Forget Tidalwave. Forget Magmatron. Right now all I want from Legacy United is a Granix figure that transforms into a jet.
@cryssnail
@cryssnail 11 ай бұрын
I would LOVE a Granix/Kranix rock figure
@jonharrison9222
@jonharrison9222 9 ай бұрын
Maybe they got advance notice of what the go-bots were doing with the rock lords.
@Jayfive276
@Jayfive276 11 ай бұрын
25:56 - holy crap, I just now realised after some 35 years that Kup's name is a shortening of "Pickup".
@ChrisMcFeely
@ChrisMcFeely 11 ай бұрын
Dreadful, isn't it!
@WhiskeyShred
@WhiskeyShred 11 ай бұрын
I still watch this movie and listen to the soundtrack whenever I need to…and I need to a lot!
@davidcatlett4052
@davidcatlett4052 11 ай бұрын
Just love it a lot, or feeling down too much?
@trubluhue9969
@trubluhue9969 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the secret of cybertron script was so unfathomably good that the universe had to make sure nobody could read it, lest their minds be shattered by its glory
@jayfink2199
@jayfink2199 6 ай бұрын
lol nah, I don't think so
@jayfink2199
@jayfink2199 6 ай бұрын
Given that what we got became historic despite suckin' balls I dunno about all that
@MonsterKidCory
@MonsterKidCory 11 ай бұрын
Okay, Kup as a WWII tank is awesome! But speaking of WWII, that spiked helmet is not a "Nazi helmet"... It's called a "Pickelhaube" and was part of the Prussian and German uniform from the early 1800's to 1918. It was long since out of use by WWII.
@ChrisMcFeely
@ChrisMcFeely 11 ай бұрын
That was a deliberate choice for the unofficial artists impression. The script specifies a Nazi helmet (because the Junkions are a biker gang, and Nazi regalia is not uncommon in that subculture) but we simply didn't want to make art of an actual Nazi helmet, so we subbed in a pickelhaube.
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou 11 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMcFeely Wreck-Gar already has that unfortunate in hindsight UK comic panel where he says, "Jim'll Fix It!", he doesn't need Nazi helmets!
@gannydonzalez3763
@gannydonzalez3763 23 күн бұрын
​@@ChrisMcFeely Cowardice.
@Acelister
@Acelister 11 ай бұрын
I've seen The Transformers: The Movie more than any other movie, and yet I've never looked into its production. This was facinating, thank you!
@KGTstudios
@KGTstudios 11 ай бұрын
This was great! The movie was amazing in nearly every single version of it! Thank you for sharing all of it!
@thegreatpurplefishlord4911
@thegreatpurplefishlord4911 11 ай бұрын
Chris, I'm not normally one to comment on videos, but that was epic. Thank you so much. Best things you've ever made.
@vxrdrummer
@vxrdrummer 11 ай бұрын
I've read the draft scripts and I keep wondering if they will ever use any of the characters that never appeared. Like Rails and the Anibots, or include Rusty and Ellen. I also love how Megatron has to race to be interned and that his essence is lost into space. I really liked those scenes and they painted a great picture in my mind's eye. There really were some great parts in the different scripts. Like on the surface of Unicron with what the terrain and surroundings are like. Its very good.
@EmbertheWildfire68
@EmbertheWildfire68 Ай бұрын
Rails most likely became Sky Lynx, and the Anibots became the predacons, just in case you’re still wondering
@peterdanior4538
@peterdanior4538 11 ай бұрын
I’m so glad they reworked the movie. What we end up getting is so much better than the early drafts
@nine_tails137
@nine_tails137 11 ай бұрын
I always like learning new things about Transformers. Especially unused ideas for the Transformers 1986 movie.
@rayray6490
@rayray6490 11 ай бұрын
The scrapped idea of Autobot City rising up into the air and closing up like a fist sounds very intriguing
@171QA
@171QA 11 ай бұрын
As much as I hate Wheeljack getting killed off in the movie I'd chose that over him being sexist over Arcee.
@MrLnikolloj
@MrLnikolloj 23 күн бұрын
I don't know i bet it would have been hilarious wheeljack not realizing Arcee is the reason he didn't die and has no idea
@edwardshawe6395
@edwardshawe6395 11 ай бұрын
Something that never ceases to amaze me is how confident Hasbro were in the brand to explore movie options before the cartoon and toyline had even dropped....
@rashakor
@rashakor 11 ай бұрын
I like very much the look of the black colored Sweeps drone! Together with a black Scourge it would have work pretty well. That’s the only I like from that first draft! The story was a mess!
@Oliverfan2005
@Oliverfan2005 11 ай бұрын
Undoubtedly my favorite episode of the Basics, and I’ve watched every friggin episode (god help me) The amount of history and ideas related to the 86 movie are so fascinating and you present it all masterfully. Ace job dude, love this one a lot
@Akuma12366
@Akuma12366 11 ай бұрын
Need more longer videos of Chris explaining Transformers like this plz this was amazing 🖤
@clayrodriguez_author
@clayrodriguez_author 11 ай бұрын
Does anyone else wish that Rails the kaiju train snake survived to the final movie? He sounds awesome
@davidkrane7026
@davidkrane7026 11 ай бұрын
Feel like he probably eventually became Sky Lynx, but yeah, wish he was also made into a toy.
@LatitudeSky
@LatitudeSky 11 ай бұрын
Takara didn't entirely give up. Most of the Brave series Might Gaine is transforming trains. One of them triple changes from beast to train to robot. Quite a good series once it gets going.
@dankerbell
@dankerbell 2 ай бұрын
i love the fan design
@lordpuller2226
@lordpuller2226 11 ай бұрын
After this summary I can see why Friedman's 1st draft wasn't fully embraced. Friedman overlooked the fact that the entire purpose of the Transformer's war was over Cybertron, not Earth. Having the Autobots care about Earth so much and destroying Cybertron as a plot point for Galvatron's revenge feels a little underhanded. At least with subsequent drafts they turned Unicron versus Cybertron into a more mythic battle for robotic souls!
@christophercameron2141
@christophercameron2141 11 ай бұрын
Under Optimus prime the Autobots were under siege and attacked, and needed a power source to survive and launch a counteroffensive. But to do so they left. MEGATRON wanted to know what they were after, and a battle ensued, crashing on earth. Optimus turned away from the Cybertronian war in hopes of protecting earth, in doing so the Autobots completely lost Cybertron under Optimus and was beginning to lose the Cybertronian war Autobots were killed under his command including himself do to his self righteous and explaining everything he does before engaging Megatron, in The Transformers the movie 1986.Under Rodimus the Autobots regained Cybertron and the Decepticons were displaced.
@christophercameron2141
@christophercameron2141 11 ай бұрын
The first draft was terrible!
@christophercameron2141
@christophercameron2141 11 ай бұрын
I liked the finish one.
@erinnorton6984
@erinnorton6984 11 ай бұрын
Finally an explanation as to what happened to Blaster during the movie! A storyline that was cut makes sense at last.
@Mirage_Mach5
@Mirage_Mach5 11 ай бұрын
It would have been nice in this draft to have Prowl take command of the Autobots after Prime's death. In the comics, Prowl became the leader of the Autobots for a time. For some strange reason, the writers never did Prowl justice. Thanks for the awesome video, sir!
@juststatedtheobvious9633
@juststatedtheobvious9633 11 ай бұрын
I remember reading once that one or more people writing the scripts had a hate-on for Prowl. Take it with all the salt in the Dead Sea (I can't even remember the source, unfortunately...), but it explains why his most memorable episode in the first season is him being tortured until a human saves his butt, and he gets one of the most horrifying deaths.
@Mirage_Mach5
@Mirage_Mach5 11 ай бұрын
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 Thanks for that! It helps put things in perspective about my second favorite character(Optimus is first).
@Tsujanryo
@Tsujanryo 11 ай бұрын
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 What? Prowl was friggin' badass, ever since the first episode he stood out...hell they were all cool. (Ok, Gears was annoying, and Seaspray talked funny.) But Prowl? Maybe they hated cops? Bluestreak was similar in form but he got no hate? I, for one, kind of think he's still alive. There's something there about greying out as a sign of real death.... #Prowlain'tdead
@GalvyTheTom
@GalvyTheTom 11 ай бұрын
@@TsujanryoIt’s a bit hard to notice but Prowl’s body does turn gray as he dies in the movie. That’s a pretty good indicator that he died for real in the movie.
@TheDigitalApple
@TheDigitalApple 11 ай бұрын
Thanks to the film we did get, we got fan favorites such as Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod, Galvatron, Arcee, Wreckgar and Unicron, who continue to appear in future Transformers products to this day!
@edr3158
@edr3158 11 ай бұрын
Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime a fan favorite?
@pinkflare13
@pinkflare13 11 ай бұрын
​​@@edr3158Yep
@travisfields157
@travisfields157 11 ай бұрын
​@@edr3158Believe it not, he is. He's picked up quite a bit of love the last 5 years or so, as there have been other depictions of him. You ought to read the IDW comics he starred in.
@BBoy_PopTart
@BBoy_PopTart 11 ай бұрын
​@@edr3158lol
@christophercameron2141
@christophercameron2141 11 ай бұрын
​@@edr3158YES! He restored the Autobots to Cybertron! And won the Cybertronian war, as well as the war hero! The movie was dedicated to his character becoming a Prime! And no, he didn't get Optimus killed! Optimus prime didn't want to take the shot before saying his self righteous lines. That gave Megatron all the time he needed.
@juliusbossman7280
@juliusbossman7280 5 ай бұрын
Rails sounds like a missed opportunity. A train that becomes a snake just sounds awesome.
@blackstone1a
@blackstone1a 11 ай бұрын
"Thr Grizzled Tankor, an Autobot who turns into a **Sherman Tank** " WE WERE ROBBED OF GREATNESS! I love Autobots with military vehicles, and the iconic Sherman Tank would've been a great form for one.
@Fenris30
@Fenris30 11 ай бұрын
I prefer Warpath and his Tourette's. Blam! Kaboom!
@Rhedosaurus_
@Rhedosaurus_ 11 ай бұрын
Loved the presentation at TFNation. I managed to get to Chicago last year and saw another version of it with Ron Friedman. Ron Friedman is a wonderful speaker and I could honestly listen to him for hours. He gave novel-length answers in his Q and A, a lot of truly bizarre and hilarious stories about his life (maybe exaggerated for comedy but a lot of it seems to be true). Sadly he didnt have much to say about his first draft TF script - understandably, he might not remember it well after all these years. I think one of only things he touched on specifically was why he prominently included a mother character (while fhe final film has a father - Spike) and how his own mother was important to him and inspired that.
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou 11 ай бұрын
I bought his autobiography but I haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Freidman promoted it on Gibert Gottfried's podcast. The title of the book is "I Killed Optimus Prime", so you now have an audio clip out there with Gilbert Gottfried confessing to Prime's murder!
@weirdkitty07
@weirdkitty07 11 ай бұрын
The snake train would have been cool as one of the beasts in Dweller in the Depths.
@artimusprime626
@artimusprime626 11 ай бұрын
It would be fascinating to get a limited legacy toyline of the bots from the earlier drafts, e.g Mentlar, Tankor, the black Sweeps, Rails, etc.
@kelvingoce7587
@kelvingoce7587 11 ай бұрын
this all sounds like it should've been a comic book event or a full season arc
@maskedriderweaver4122
@maskedriderweaver4122 11 ай бұрын
I would say "WOW", but that just isn't enough. This shows so many interesting ideas that could have been built on. I'm seeing multiple times lines forming in my head. I think this will give me the inspiration I needed to finish my rewrite of G1 that I had been working on...
@TheSmashingLad
@TheSmashingLad 11 ай бұрын
Damn, Wheeljack got done dirty in the final movie
@iBeamer
@iBeamer 11 ай бұрын
I was at TFCon Chicago in Oct. 2022 and got to attend the panel when Jim Sorensen and Ron Friedman went through the first draft. It was a blast to hear the story he came up with!
@Lukehendo
@Lukehendo 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for making me fall in love with these characters again with your videos
@NovexusNui777
@NovexusNui777 11 ай бұрын
I have only few words to say about this. and that is simply, Masterful work McFeely, Masterful work.
@HIllowder
@HIllowder 11 ай бұрын
i always wondered why they were called the sweeps 🤣
@ChibiProwl
@ChibiProwl 4 ай бұрын
Ditto 😅
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster 11 ай бұрын
Imagine if they kept Wheeljack in the final product? "Eeeeeeh, why's a Woman holdin' a GUN?! *BadaBOOM."*
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster 11 ай бұрын
IDK why Jackie being horrendously sexist is funny to me; Probably cause its so fitting. (Being the Alien Robot equivalent of a Grease Monkey from Connecticut.)
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou 11 ай бұрын
"No, seriously, why are there male and female robots? This doesn't make any sense!" On the other hand, in the Challenge of the GoBots cartoon the GoBots are cyborgs. They were aliens that look just like humans who replaced failing body parts, so it makes sense for them to have genders.
@palaguin
@palaguin 11 ай бұрын
The first draft sounded good at the beginning, but it looks like the writer couldn't help adding more and more to it that it became a hot mess, Definitely salvagable to make another animated movie somewhere sometime.
@brockbaby
@brockbaby 11 ай бұрын
First drafts never get made. Writers add enough content to get a dialogue going and let it evolve from there.
@tigerbread78
@tigerbread78 11 ай бұрын
Regarding the confusion about life spark being mentioned in the comic, I always assumed that the comic meant it in the life force sense, it just seemed obvious.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 11 ай бұрын
Same here. But clearly there are people out there who did make that assumption.
@wreday720
@wreday720 11 ай бұрын
same here, always left me scratching my head why people were so confused by this...
@justinneese4449
@justinneese4449 11 ай бұрын
Is anyone else dreaming of a Snake train "Rails" toy? (I would also take one eyed tank Kup). After watching this all the way through, I feel like we got the best script in the end, but I was STILL a traumatized child for a wile LOL
@nerimadaikon5516
@nerimadaikon5516 11 ай бұрын
The deaths in this movie were terrible in our childhood, but I don't think we would have been here without them.
@BirdsAreScary
@BirdsAreScary 11 ай бұрын
This movie absolutely traumatized me. Love it.
@CoreyWE
@CoreyWE 11 ай бұрын
Man, that first draft was PACKED with plot lines. If they went with this version it would have been a 2 hour film with a lot of antsy kids in the theatre.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 11 ай бұрын
Even in the first draft of the film, Springer had better things to do tonight than die.
@foldabotZ
@foldabotZ 11 ай бұрын
I always mapped Springer to Han Solo so learning he was initially drafted as a more Arnold Schwarzenegger-like character is hilarious. Especially imagining his most memorable line, "I got better things to do tonight than die," in an Arnold-like impression.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 9 ай бұрын
@@foldabotZ Seriously, though, the fact that, in the first draft, he was the only Autobot in Magnus' group that avoided getting gunned down makes totally makes that line retroactively applicable.
@erikrick
@erikrick 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting this together
@Gaia_BentosZX5
@Gaia_BentosZX5 11 ай бұрын
What an amazing story. The Key to Vector Ligma and all season 3 episodes are the result of scrapped movie ideas, including the return of optimus prime, now fully upgraded.
@manjackson2772
@manjackson2772 11 ай бұрын
What's Vector Ligma?
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou 11 ай бұрын
@@manjackson2772 A typo. Vector Sigma is the computer at the center of Cybertron that gives Transformers life who is apparently older than Cybertron itself. He is used to create the Aerialbots and Stunticons.
@minilopgamer1950
@minilopgamer1950 11 ай бұрын
I’m so glad they didn’t make Wheeljack sexist
@PhantomHarlock78
@PhantomHarlock78 11 ай бұрын
Even more in the show that was thd first to have trans characters.
@themollymachine
@themollymachine 6 ай бұрын
Not me 😢
@Ezim
@Ezim 11 ай бұрын
Friedman's script somehow feels like so much stuff is going on and yet nothing of importance is happening.
@haydenreviewscustomcombos
@haydenreviewscustomcombos 11 ай бұрын
So, Daniel was always meant to be introduced in the movie. I really hope that this version was toned down from the version we got in the finished movie.
@deltadark2665
@deltadark2665 11 ай бұрын
Really sad that Mentlar, Chemico, and Rails never saw the light of day They all look really cool
@monkeydrajanka4798
@monkeydrajanka4798 11 ай бұрын
This is Going to be a Legendary Episode ^_^
@toufuemoua8658
@toufuemoua8658 11 ай бұрын
we need to have this script into a movie like yesterday 🙏
@joestacey6185
@joestacey6185 11 ай бұрын
The part where Daniel was the only one small enough to get through a hole to blow up a planet is amazingly similar to Baby Groot doing the same thing in Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 2.
@timtenthousand
@timtenthousand 7 ай бұрын
this video makes me so excited for the concept art Studio Series toys
@ComicGuy74
@ComicGuy74 11 ай бұрын
A very interesting and entertaining video. It's fascinating to see the Movie develop from the ground up, through numerous drafts to what it ended up as.
@omegahtv6779
@omegahtv6779 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading this. Till all are One.
@LH74
@LH74 6 ай бұрын
This movie was started in 1984 and took 2 years to make, it’s amazing how the cartoon and the movie were developed at the same time.
@JynxPryde
@JynxPryde 11 ай бұрын
This video is full of tidbits that make some scenes, in the movie that came out, make a LOT more sense.
@gunneranders4087
@gunneranders4087 11 ай бұрын
Its a good original concept they had, but am glad they chose to do it the other way with hot rod.
@TFfangeek
@TFfangeek 11 ай бұрын
If only the writers who put all their effort into the Transformers G1 movie actually had traveled to the future year of 2005 or even the year 1990 to see how horrible the idea of killing Optimus Prime was. At least Optimus Prime dying is now used as a joke and he doesn't stay dead for to long. Also, incredible that the life source or "souls" of the Transformers were called sparks, which was later made an official part of Transformers lore during the Beast Wars cartoon.
@peterdanior4538
@peterdanior4538 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think the movie would be as memorable if they didn’t kill Prime. Look at how forgettable the GIJoe movie is, imagine if they actually killed off Duke and some of the others.
@MDestron2282
@MDestron2282 11 ай бұрын
@@peterdanior4538 I'm glad they did a 180 on G.I.Joe personally. Killing off old characters to introduce new ones after seeing the reaction to Transformers would be stupid. What they did to Cobra Commander was beyond stupid but they still kept that in there.... besides other than Tunnel Rat and maybe Jinx all the other new Joe recruits were terrible. "Well, Duke's dead.... but hey kids! We have this brand new guy! He's... um.... a basketball player... is that cool? Do you kids like that?" I think it was the right call.
@peterdanior4538
@peterdanior4538 11 ай бұрын
@@MDestron2282 Jinx was the best of the new characters. And I loved what they did with Cobra Commander. His slow transformation was creepy as hell. But I still thinking killing or maiming a few Joes would have made the Cobra-La villains even better. But yeah they would have had to had better replacements, which is another thing Transformers got right. Kup & Blurr we’re great new additions.
@MDestron2282
@MDestron2282 11 ай бұрын
Wow! Chris, this is one of the coolest videos you've done! I really enjoyed every minute of it. Fantastic work!
@anotherdimension9116
@anotherdimension9116 11 ай бұрын
A classic! Cannot wait to see all the behind the scenes information
@Sketchschmidt
@Sketchschmidt 11 ай бұрын
i cry even as a 41year old man every time i watch this movie
@HelloMisterJAMWAH
@HelloMisterJAMWAH 11 ай бұрын
Same! I don't know why, maybe sheer happiness
@StiffAftermath
@StiffAftermath 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the look and feel of Lithron and Kranix.
@bpo1975
@bpo1975 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video as always, Chris. You're the best in the business. It's fascinating to see this early version of the movie but I don't think 11 year old me would have enjoyed it. I'm grateful that we got the movie we got.
@DBWalks2010
@DBWalks2010 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic untold story, characters and different drafts!👍👍👍😎😎😎😎Great job Chris👌
@matteomascaropennacchi2220
@matteomascaropennacchi2220 11 ай бұрын
Please make this basics and then Powerglide or Jetstorm or Bayverse and Rotb Scrapped ideias and even Unicron and his heralds
@ryanmatthews3609
@ryanmatthews3609 11 ай бұрын
no bayverse!
@brandonpage9145
@brandonpage9145 11 ай бұрын
​@@ryanmatthews3609yes bayverse!
@ryanmatthews3609
@ryanmatthews3609 11 ай бұрын
@@brandonpage9145 no, it has been a big bad influence to the franchise!
@brandonpage9145
@brandonpage9145 11 ай бұрын
@@ryanmatthews3609 what "big bad influence"? Lol
@ryanmatthews3609
@ryanmatthews3609 11 ай бұрын
@@brandonpage9145 everything in it! the stories, the character designs, everything!
@turismosmoke9438
@turismosmoke9438 11 ай бұрын
Awesome I loved the presentation and narration! Well done.Thank you!
@mr.monitor7943
@mr.monitor7943 11 ай бұрын
26:35 That image goes so hard. It looks like they just got done fighting an entire army and are still ready for more
@EllinoItalos
@EllinoItalos 7 ай бұрын
I loved the soundtrack. As a matter of fact, a few 80's cartoons in had awesome music. Thundercats especially.
@DuzdyAnimates
@DuzdyAnimates 11 ай бұрын
It must happen, Transformers The Movie, The Friedman Cut!!!
@dublinbrummie
@dublinbrummie 4 ай бұрын
How many kids were scared for life after seeing this in the cinema. They wouldn't have the balls to do that now.
@Ta2dwitetrash
@Ta2dwitetrash 15 күн бұрын
It was brutal in real time. They laid waste to most of my favorites. It was that moment when you realized they weren't F'n around. This was pg-13 lol
@patrickowens4294
@patrickowens4294 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video. It's like peering into an alternate reality.
@johnosbourn4312
@johnosbourn4312 11 ай бұрын
This was very fascinating, Chris, and I really enjoyed this deep dive into the unknown history of the first Transformers movie.
@garou12
@garou12 11 ай бұрын
Aside from the ghost stuff and unicron bits the first draft's story sounded way better than what we got. esp liked how they actually explained why they were called the sweeps instead of what we got.
@fiercepierce2634
@fiercepierce2634 11 ай бұрын
Omg, thank you for this. Wow, the first depiction of my love. Wow, and the other scenes geez thank you so very much, my friend. And as always, til all are one
@Dezzasheep
@Dezzasheep 8 ай бұрын
I utterly adored this film when I was a kid.
@rayb8572
@rayb8572 11 ай бұрын
This video was great, thanks for putting in the time to create and upload!! I loved learning all these alternate possibilities for this great movie!
@harumochizuki
@harumochizuki 11 ай бұрын
Now THIS is AWESOME
@rob1052
@rob1052 11 ай бұрын
Bravo job on this episode! I was delighted to learn much about one of my favorite films that I never knew before. Your presentation easily connected the gaps of missing continuity and made clear sense of why certain things were presented the way there were in the film, etc.
@autumnrose5293
@autumnrose5293 11 ай бұрын
Caught up with all of the basics just in time for this banger…what am I going to listen to on my commutes now? 😫
@alanguages
@alanguages 10 ай бұрын
What also should be done, albeit close to 40 years later is an animate scene of the battle at the Ark, during the movie. Menasor, Bruticus and other Decepticons fighting Omega Supreme, Defensor, Superion and the Autobots stationed there. It makes sense for Megatron also doing a two point attack, as it would have prevented re-enforcements within Earth to help out at Autobot City.
@kristopherreavely7245
@kristopherreavely7245 11 ай бұрын
It's still a mixed bag when it comes to storyline and such but out of all the possible versions it kind of sounds like the one we got is the best we were going to get. Looking back a complete remake would be awesome, using the concepts from future stories it could truly flesh out the Matrix, Life Sparks etc. Maybe Hasbro should crowd fund a complete remake and see what happens.
@sketchasaurrex4087
@sketchasaurrex4087 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad for all the rewrites and revisions. Especially the first draft sounded completely random and disjointed in telling the story.
@thecheese4255
@thecheese4255 11 ай бұрын
Very informative Man, I really like the concept of Rails
@liamwilliams1794
@liamwilliams1794 11 ай бұрын
Loved that chris. Great video.
@raulzavala9061
@raulzavala9061 11 ай бұрын
You know I thought this was going into more detail like what person in charge at Hasbro was the idea of picking celebrity actors to voice the characters and whose thought was to make an all hard rock soundtrack and all that other stuff.
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou 11 ай бұрын
"Kids love Lionel Stander, right?"
@HisAutisticKnight
@HisAutisticKnight 11 ай бұрын
I'm intrigued with the first draft. That sounds like it would've been one heck of a movie despite so much happening.
@seancampbell1383
@seancampbell1383 11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for this video! Very cool to learn some unknown info about my favourite movie! I was there in the theatre in 86 and have checked it out countless times since. Cheers!
@snokespinaltap
@snokespinaltap 11 ай бұрын
Wheeljack and Arcee huh
@T-Bechilln
@T-Bechilln 11 ай бұрын
They really need to make directors cut to this movie
@GokkunGuru
@GokkunGuru 11 ай бұрын
I’m glad this alternate draft didn’t get into the final version. It sucks in comparison to the actual film. Thanks for making this.
@fanguy99
@fanguy99 11 ай бұрын
Who else wants a commander class rails now?
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