At the SDCC 2023 panel's trivia portion, Mr Flint Dille was asking us in the audience what the original title of the Transformers movie script. I was the only one to raise my hand and answer that it was Transformers: The Secrets of Cybertron. I was surprised that I was the only one to get it, and even more surprised that my prize for winning was a copy of the dead Ironhide & Prowl Buzzworthy Bumblebee pack.
@adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo174911 ай бұрын
Congrats, have corpses
@Prime-Productions11 ай бұрын
If this isn’t sarcasm that’s hilarious😂
@myriadmediamusings11 ай бұрын
@@Prime-Productions Nah yeah true story, there is a YT video of the panel and at the 31:00 mark is where it happens.
@japanesepokemoncardsbuydir965711 ай бұрын
A copy ? So a KO then.
@Jeddostotle711 ай бұрын
@@japanesepokemoncardsbuydir9657 no, "a copy" as in "a single specimen of a widely-produced work or item", the same way you'd say it for a book or movie or something. "a copy of Grapes of Wrath" or "a copy of Terminator", etc.
@Troublethecat11 ай бұрын
It's always confused me how Hasbro created the Transformers cartoon in the first place to get kids attached to the characters enough to beg their parents to buy the toys, but then they were shocked that kids were upset at the characters being killed so they could sell new toys.
@christophermire387211 ай бұрын
There were so many better ways they could have handled that. They could have been sucked through a wormhole never to be seen again. Or they could have done the same thing they did when they introduced all those new characters in season 2. Just have them not appear again and not explain it at all. 😂
@brianng835011 ай бұрын
That is what happens when you have corporate greed that doesn’t understand the audience. They should never work on children related stuff.
@benreilly951311 ай бұрын
“Dry your eyes, and buy Rodimus Prime.”
@Troublethecat11 ай бұрын
@@christophermire3872 I mean to be fair they couldn't do that second thing with Optimus Prime because he's leader of the Autobots and basically the main character of the first two seasons. They still could have gotten rid of him without killing him, especially killing him in a way that kinda made it the fault of the guy who replaced him. I don't know how that part ended up being something that survived through all the revisions into the final movie. They could've just had the characters whose toys were being discontinued leave earth for some reason like they ended up doing with Rodimus's crew in Headmasters.
@clownplayer726511 ай бұрын
They underestimated the attachment. They assumed kids are fickle minded no matter what, ignoring that they did a great job creating a connection between the characters and the audience, especially Optimus Prime. Plus, Optimus' dead scene takes itself with reverence and seriousness even modern movies tend to lack, and even other characters' demise are notably taken with enough gravitas to the situation, the shuttle members Ironhide specially are killed and we can see the decepticons are indeed pieces of work, Arcee contemplating the bodies of Windcharger and Wheeljack is fast but enough to showcase how brutal the battle is getting, and even after the jokes Starscream's death serves to highlight they're dealing with a new threat they cannot underestimate.
@ProfDragonite11 ай бұрын
Star Wars, Weird Al, Orson Welles, the death of Prime... It's amazing how a TOY COMMERCIAL, of all things, could create something so iconic.
@tylerbertram706511 ай бұрын
Don't forget a Monty Python member and Mr Spock
@manjackson277211 ай бұрын
Misread as idiotic at first. It's both for sure.
@Mecha8211 ай бұрын
Movie dared to be stupid and it was alright.
@liljenborg251711 ай бұрын
Iconic? Traumatizing is what I remember. I still struggle to watch the movie because I can't get past the death of all these characters I loved, just because their toys had been discontinued. I picked up a few Transformers from friends who sold them off to me for a buck or two because they'd been so alienated by the movie. "At least we still have GI Joe," they said. And then THAT movie came out . . .
@jasonelliott797711 ай бұрын
This toy commercial took on a life of its own and became something more. We’re still talking about this movie almost forty years later.
@Chokun-Gaming11 ай бұрын
Rails sounds like a fun character, it's a shame he never left the concept stage
@brockbaby11 ай бұрын
It was a real toy in Japan (diaclone or such) . Hasbro never got around to prepping it for the US market.
@Chokun-Gaming11 ай бұрын
@@brockbaby can you tell me its name? A google search only shows me what was recolored into the trainbots
@manjackson277211 ай бұрын
@@Chokun-Gaming There was no train/bullet train/robot snake in the transformers line. The trainbots are probably what they were thinking of.
@doobles925310 ай бұрын
Megatron just got a studio series toy based off of bumblebee concept art, maybe Rails has a chance of being a toy in the future (titan class pls hasbro)
@hexxxenmeister60699 ай бұрын
Odd choice for an autobot, giant fire breathing snake
@felmaster353411 ай бұрын
I want to see more of Cranix and Lithone. I reckon they'd be depicted as a colony world nowadays of Cybertronians who lost the ability to transform and had to rely on actual vehicles, but I would like the idea of a "cousin race" of robots.
@manjackson277211 ай бұрын
So... Action Masters?
@matthewsimpson552911 ай бұрын
A Colony world that, after being cut off from Cybertron and the other Colonies, were forced to rely on Nucleon for power after running out of Energon, so they lose their ability to transform.
@AxeManOfSuburbia11 ай бұрын
I prefer the idea that Cybertronians are unique in their ability to transform because of the great war.
@allhailme845711 ай бұрын
I just think there are other mechanical races/species. We see some in Lithone, but we also see convergent mechanical animal species on the Quintesson planet. Cybertronians seem to be a species that can transform their bodies completely. Some stories say they had to learn to do it, but I think Primus created them from the beginning to have that capability.
@LoveableNerd11 ай бұрын
We already know that's not true. All the Quintesson guard robots, the Sharkticons, the Junkions. None were (originally) Cybertronian in oririn.@@AxeManOfSuburbia
@Katdad7911 ай бұрын
Someone needs to fully animate that first draft into an actual movie. I'd watch it.
@optimusgaming862911 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. But have it take place in an alternate universe
@darklordmalthric363311 ай бұрын
Someone should start a petition to do just that
@theonewhowatches86911 ай бұрын
Or maybe more realistically, pull a "The Star Wars" and adapt that first draft as a comic
@TheMegops8111 ай бұрын
I would be down for that.
@myriadmediamusings11 ай бұрын
@@theonewhowatches869Down for that for sure. It would most certainly be a better TF Movie what if comic than the actual what if TF Movie comic we got.
@Firedrake-SP11 ай бұрын
It's sad that Rails and Tanker never made it in the spotlight.
@videogollumer11 ай бұрын
What? No love for Mentlar?
@EvilCerealBoX11 ай бұрын
@@videogollumeror chemo!
@videogollumer11 ай бұрын
@@EvilCerealBoX Why are you bringing the Metal Men's archnemesis into this? This isn't DC.
@EvilCerealBoX11 ай бұрын
@@videogollumer chemico* my bad.
@kinglord770711 ай бұрын
Maybe they will very soon
@TalentCaldwell11 ай бұрын
My heart literally sank when the video says it was ending as I did not want it to end. This was absolutely captivating. Great job.
@Defx1011 ай бұрын
The first draft actually sounds like the most compelling story of all. I think I really would have enjoyed that. I really like the idea of Unicron being trapped in an orbit, and the Earth sub-plot. Wish those ideas had stayed in the final movie.
@davidawilliams25218 күн бұрын
Yes. I think elements of the 1st and the 3rd would have been great. I hate Rusty and Claire (humans) involvement and I like that Spike and Daniel are in it.
@jonathanboetto884911 ай бұрын
This is absolutely amazing. The revelation that Kranix was originally a stone-based Transformer named Granix makes so much sense. I've always wondered why his planet was called Lithone ("lithos" being the Greek word for stone), despite seemingly having nothing to do with stone. It would be kind of a fun callback if Kranix and Arblus (or "Granix") got Legacy United toys in the Infernac Universe to finally see this idea come to full fruition. Speaking of Infernac, I wonder if Mentlar's name was repurposed for the Inhumanoid, Metlar, when he was replaced by Perceptor...
@JustinWahlne11 ай бұрын
Forget Tigerhawk. Forget Tidalwave. Forget Magmatron. Right now all I want from Legacy United is a Granix figure that transforms into a jet.
@cryssnail11 ай бұрын
I would LOVE a Granix/Kranix rock figure
@jonharrison92229 ай бұрын
Maybe they got advance notice of what the go-bots were doing with the rock lords.
@Jayfive27611 ай бұрын
25:56 - holy crap, I just now realised after some 35 years that Kup's name is a shortening of "Pickup".
@ChrisMcFeely11 ай бұрын
Dreadful, isn't it!
@WhiskeyShred11 ай бұрын
I still watch this movie and listen to the soundtrack whenever I need to…and I need to a lot!
@davidcatlett405211 ай бұрын
Just love it a lot, or feeling down too much?
@trubluhue996911 ай бұрын
Maybe the secret of cybertron script was so unfathomably good that the universe had to make sure nobody could read it, lest their minds be shattered by its glory
@jayfink21996 ай бұрын
lol nah, I don't think so
@jayfink21996 ай бұрын
Given that what we got became historic despite suckin' balls I dunno about all that
@MonsterKidCory11 ай бұрын
Okay, Kup as a WWII tank is awesome! But speaking of WWII, that spiked helmet is not a "Nazi helmet"... It's called a "Pickelhaube" and was part of the Prussian and German uniform from the early 1800's to 1918. It was long since out of use by WWII.
@ChrisMcFeely11 ай бұрын
That was a deliberate choice for the unofficial artists impression. The script specifies a Nazi helmet (because the Junkions are a biker gang, and Nazi regalia is not uncommon in that subculture) but we simply didn't want to make art of an actual Nazi helmet, so we subbed in a pickelhaube.
@KasumiKenshirou11 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMcFeely Wreck-Gar already has that unfortunate in hindsight UK comic panel where he says, "Jim'll Fix It!", he doesn't need Nazi helmets!
@gannydonzalez376323 күн бұрын
@@ChrisMcFeely Cowardice.
@Acelister11 ай бұрын
I've seen The Transformers: The Movie more than any other movie, and yet I've never looked into its production. This was facinating, thank you!
@KGTstudios11 ай бұрын
This was great! The movie was amazing in nearly every single version of it! Thank you for sharing all of it!
@thegreatpurplefishlord491111 ай бұрын
Chris, I'm not normally one to comment on videos, but that was epic. Thank you so much. Best things you've ever made.
@vxrdrummer11 ай бұрын
I've read the draft scripts and I keep wondering if they will ever use any of the characters that never appeared. Like Rails and the Anibots, or include Rusty and Ellen. I also love how Megatron has to race to be interned and that his essence is lost into space. I really liked those scenes and they painted a great picture in my mind's eye. There really were some great parts in the different scripts. Like on the surface of Unicron with what the terrain and surroundings are like. Its very good.
@EmbertheWildfire68Ай бұрын
Rails most likely became Sky Lynx, and the Anibots became the predacons, just in case you’re still wondering
@peterdanior453811 ай бұрын
I’m so glad they reworked the movie. What we end up getting is so much better than the early drafts
@nine_tails13711 ай бұрын
I always like learning new things about Transformers. Especially unused ideas for the Transformers 1986 movie.
@rayray649011 ай бұрын
The scrapped idea of Autobot City rising up into the air and closing up like a fist sounds very intriguing
@171QA11 ай бұрын
As much as I hate Wheeljack getting killed off in the movie I'd chose that over him being sexist over Arcee.
@MrLnikolloj23 күн бұрын
I don't know i bet it would have been hilarious wheeljack not realizing Arcee is the reason he didn't die and has no idea
@edwardshawe639511 ай бұрын
Something that never ceases to amaze me is how confident Hasbro were in the brand to explore movie options before the cartoon and toyline had even dropped....
@rashakor11 ай бұрын
I like very much the look of the black colored Sweeps drone! Together with a black Scourge it would have work pretty well. That’s the only I like from that first draft! The story was a mess!
@Oliverfan200511 ай бұрын
Undoubtedly my favorite episode of the Basics, and I’ve watched every friggin episode (god help me) The amount of history and ideas related to the 86 movie are so fascinating and you present it all masterfully. Ace job dude, love this one a lot
@Akuma1236611 ай бұрын
Need more longer videos of Chris explaining Transformers like this plz this was amazing 🖤
@clayrodriguez_author11 ай бұрын
Does anyone else wish that Rails the kaiju train snake survived to the final movie? He sounds awesome
@davidkrane702611 ай бұрын
Feel like he probably eventually became Sky Lynx, but yeah, wish he was also made into a toy.
@LatitudeSky11 ай бұрын
Takara didn't entirely give up. Most of the Brave series Might Gaine is transforming trains. One of them triple changes from beast to train to robot. Quite a good series once it gets going.
@dankerbell2 ай бұрын
i love the fan design
@lordpuller222611 ай бұрын
After this summary I can see why Friedman's 1st draft wasn't fully embraced. Friedman overlooked the fact that the entire purpose of the Transformer's war was over Cybertron, not Earth. Having the Autobots care about Earth so much and destroying Cybertron as a plot point for Galvatron's revenge feels a little underhanded. At least with subsequent drafts they turned Unicron versus Cybertron into a more mythic battle for robotic souls!
@christophercameron214111 ай бұрын
Under Optimus prime the Autobots were under siege and attacked, and needed a power source to survive and launch a counteroffensive. But to do so they left. MEGATRON wanted to know what they were after, and a battle ensued, crashing on earth. Optimus turned away from the Cybertronian war in hopes of protecting earth, in doing so the Autobots completely lost Cybertron under Optimus and was beginning to lose the Cybertronian war Autobots were killed under his command including himself do to his self righteous and explaining everything he does before engaging Megatron, in The Transformers the movie 1986.Under Rodimus the Autobots regained Cybertron and the Decepticons were displaced.
@christophercameron214111 ай бұрын
The first draft was terrible!
@christophercameron214111 ай бұрын
I liked the finish one.
@erinnorton698411 ай бұрын
Finally an explanation as to what happened to Blaster during the movie! A storyline that was cut makes sense at last.
@Mirage_Mach511 ай бұрын
It would have been nice in this draft to have Prowl take command of the Autobots after Prime's death. In the comics, Prowl became the leader of the Autobots for a time. For some strange reason, the writers never did Prowl justice. Thanks for the awesome video, sir!
@juststatedtheobvious963311 ай бұрын
I remember reading once that one or more people writing the scripts had a hate-on for Prowl. Take it with all the salt in the Dead Sea (I can't even remember the source, unfortunately...), but it explains why his most memorable episode in the first season is him being tortured until a human saves his butt, and he gets one of the most horrifying deaths.
@Mirage_Mach511 ай бұрын
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 Thanks for that! It helps put things in perspective about my second favorite character(Optimus is first).
@Tsujanryo11 ай бұрын
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 What? Prowl was friggin' badass, ever since the first episode he stood out...hell they were all cool. (Ok, Gears was annoying, and Seaspray talked funny.) But Prowl? Maybe they hated cops? Bluestreak was similar in form but he got no hate? I, for one, kind of think he's still alive. There's something there about greying out as a sign of real death.... #Prowlain'tdead
@GalvyTheTom11 ай бұрын
@@TsujanryoIt’s a bit hard to notice but Prowl’s body does turn gray as he dies in the movie. That’s a pretty good indicator that he died for real in the movie.
@TheDigitalApple11 ай бұрын
Thanks to the film we did get, we got fan favorites such as Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod, Galvatron, Arcee, Wreckgar and Unicron, who continue to appear in future Transformers products to this day!
@edr315811 ай бұрын
Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime a fan favorite?
@pinkflare1311 ай бұрын
@@edr3158Yep
@travisfields15711 ай бұрын
@@edr3158Believe it not, he is. He's picked up quite a bit of love the last 5 years or so, as there have been other depictions of him. You ought to read the IDW comics he starred in.
@BBoy_PopTart11 ай бұрын
@@edr3158lol
@christophercameron214111 ай бұрын
@@edr3158YES! He restored the Autobots to Cybertron! And won the Cybertronian war, as well as the war hero! The movie was dedicated to his character becoming a Prime! And no, he didn't get Optimus killed! Optimus prime didn't want to take the shot before saying his self righteous lines. That gave Megatron all the time he needed.
@juliusbossman72805 ай бұрын
Rails sounds like a missed opportunity. A train that becomes a snake just sounds awesome.
@blackstone1a11 ай бұрын
"Thr Grizzled Tankor, an Autobot who turns into a **Sherman Tank** " WE WERE ROBBED OF GREATNESS! I love Autobots with military vehicles, and the iconic Sherman Tank would've been a great form for one.
@Fenris3011 ай бұрын
I prefer Warpath and his Tourette's. Blam! Kaboom!
@Rhedosaurus_11 ай бұрын
Loved the presentation at TFNation. I managed to get to Chicago last year and saw another version of it with Ron Friedman. Ron Friedman is a wonderful speaker and I could honestly listen to him for hours. He gave novel-length answers in his Q and A, a lot of truly bizarre and hilarious stories about his life (maybe exaggerated for comedy but a lot of it seems to be true). Sadly he didnt have much to say about his first draft TF script - understandably, he might not remember it well after all these years. I think one of only things he touched on specifically was why he prominently included a mother character (while fhe final film has a father - Spike) and how his own mother was important to him and inspired that.
@KasumiKenshirou11 ай бұрын
I bought his autobiography but I haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Freidman promoted it on Gibert Gottfried's podcast. The title of the book is "I Killed Optimus Prime", so you now have an audio clip out there with Gilbert Gottfried confessing to Prime's murder!
@weirdkitty0711 ай бұрын
The snake train would have been cool as one of the beasts in Dweller in the Depths.
@artimusprime62611 ай бұрын
It would be fascinating to get a limited legacy toyline of the bots from the earlier drafts, e.g Mentlar, Tankor, the black Sweeps, Rails, etc.
@kelvingoce758711 ай бұрын
this all sounds like it should've been a comic book event or a full season arc
@maskedriderweaver412211 ай бұрын
I would say "WOW", but that just isn't enough. This shows so many interesting ideas that could have been built on. I'm seeing multiple times lines forming in my head. I think this will give me the inspiration I needed to finish my rewrite of G1 that I had been working on...
@TheSmashingLad11 ай бұрын
Damn, Wheeljack got done dirty in the final movie
@iBeamer11 ай бұрын
I was at TFCon Chicago in Oct. 2022 and got to attend the panel when Jim Sorensen and Ron Friedman went through the first draft. It was a blast to hear the story he came up with!
@Lukehendo11 ай бұрын
Thank you for making me fall in love with these characters again with your videos
@NovexusNui77711 ай бұрын
I have only few words to say about this. and that is simply, Masterful work McFeely, Masterful work.
@HIllowder11 ай бұрын
i always wondered why they were called the sweeps 🤣
@ChibiProwl4 ай бұрын
Ditto 😅
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster11 ай бұрын
Imagine if they kept Wheeljack in the final product? "Eeeeeeh, why's a Woman holdin' a GUN?! *BadaBOOM."*
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster11 ай бұрын
IDK why Jackie being horrendously sexist is funny to me; Probably cause its so fitting. (Being the Alien Robot equivalent of a Grease Monkey from Connecticut.)
@KasumiKenshirou11 ай бұрын
"No, seriously, why are there male and female robots? This doesn't make any sense!" On the other hand, in the Challenge of the GoBots cartoon the GoBots are cyborgs. They were aliens that look just like humans who replaced failing body parts, so it makes sense for them to have genders.
@palaguin11 ай бұрын
The first draft sounded good at the beginning, but it looks like the writer couldn't help adding more and more to it that it became a hot mess, Definitely salvagable to make another animated movie somewhere sometime.
@brockbaby11 ай бұрын
First drafts never get made. Writers add enough content to get a dialogue going and let it evolve from there.
@tigerbread7811 ай бұрын
Regarding the confusion about life spark being mentioned in the comic, I always assumed that the comic meant it in the life force sense, it just seemed obvious.
@jackdubz424711 ай бұрын
Same here. But clearly there are people out there who did make that assumption.
@wreday72011 ай бұрын
same here, always left me scratching my head why people were so confused by this...
@justinneese444911 ай бұрын
Is anyone else dreaming of a Snake train "Rails" toy? (I would also take one eyed tank Kup). After watching this all the way through, I feel like we got the best script in the end, but I was STILL a traumatized child for a wile LOL
@nerimadaikon551611 ай бұрын
The deaths in this movie were terrible in our childhood, but I don't think we would have been here without them.
@BirdsAreScary11 ай бұрын
This movie absolutely traumatized me. Love it.
@CoreyWE11 ай бұрын
Man, that first draft was PACKED with plot lines. If they went with this version it would have been a 2 hour film with a lot of antsy kids in the theatre.
@videogollumer11 ай бұрын
Even in the first draft of the film, Springer had better things to do tonight than die.
@foldabotZ11 ай бұрын
I always mapped Springer to Han Solo so learning he was initially drafted as a more Arnold Schwarzenegger-like character is hilarious. Especially imagining his most memorable line, "I got better things to do tonight than die," in an Arnold-like impression.
@videogollumer9 ай бұрын
@@foldabotZ Seriously, though, the fact that, in the first draft, he was the only Autobot in Magnus' group that avoided getting gunned down makes totally makes that line retroactively applicable.
@erikrick11 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting this together
@Gaia_BentosZX511 ай бұрын
What an amazing story. The Key to Vector Ligma and all season 3 episodes are the result of scrapped movie ideas, including the return of optimus prime, now fully upgraded.
@manjackson277211 ай бұрын
What's Vector Ligma?
@KasumiKenshirou11 ай бұрын
@@manjackson2772 A typo. Vector Sigma is the computer at the center of Cybertron that gives Transformers life who is apparently older than Cybertron itself. He is used to create the Aerialbots and Stunticons.
@minilopgamer195011 ай бұрын
I’m so glad they didn’t make Wheeljack sexist
@PhantomHarlock7811 ай бұрын
Even more in the show that was thd first to have trans characters.
@themollymachine6 ай бұрын
Not me 😢
@Ezim11 ай бұрын
Friedman's script somehow feels like so much stuff is going on and yet nothing of importance is happening.
@haydenreviewscustomcombos11 ай бұрын
So, Daniel was always meant to be introduced in the movie. I really hope that this version was toned down from the version we got in the finished movie.
@deltadark266511 ай бұрын
Really sad that Mentlar, Chemico, and Rails never saw the light of day They all look really cool
@monkeydrajanka479811 ай бұрын
This is Going to be a Legendary Episode ^_^
@toufuemoua865811 ай бұрын
we need to have this script into a movie like yesterday 🙏
@joestacey618511 ай бұрын
The part where Daniel was the only one small enough to get through a hole to blow up a planet is amazingly similar to Baby Groot doing the same thing in Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 2.
@timtenthousand7 ай бұрын
this video makes me so excited for the concept art Studio Series toys
@ComicGuy7411 ай бұрын
A very interesting and entertaining video. It's fascinating to see the Movie develop from the ground up, through numerous drafts to what it ended up as.
@omegahtv677911 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading this. Till all are One.
@LH746 ай бұрын
This movie was started in 1984 and took 2 years to make, it’s amazing how the cartoon and the movie were developed at the same time.
@JynxPryde11 ай бұрын
This video is full of tidbits that make some scenes, in the movie that came out, make a LOT more sense.
@gunneranders408711 ай бұрын
Its a good original concept they had, but am glad they chose to do it the other way with hot rod.
@TFfangeek11 ай бұрын
If only the writers who put all their effort into the Transformers G1 movie actually had traveled to the future year of 2005 or even the year 1990 to see how horrible the idea of killing Optimus Prime was. At least Optimus Prime dying is now used as a joke and he doesn't stay dead for to long. Also, incredible that the life source or "souls" of the Transformers were called sparks, which was later made an official part of Transformers lore during the Beast Wars cartoon.
@peterdanior453811 ай бұрын
I don’t think the movie would be as memorable if they didn’t kill Prime. Look at how forgettable the GIJoe movie is, imagine if they actually killed off Duke and some of the others.
@MDestron228211 ай бұрын
@@peterdanior4538 I'm glad they did a 180 on G.I.Joe personally. Killing off old characters to introduce new ones after seeing the reaction to Transformers would be stupid. What they did to Cobra Commander was beyond stupid but they still kept that in there.... besides other than Tunnel Rat and maybe Jinx all the other new Joe recruits were terrible. "Well, Duke's dead.... but hey kids! We have this brand new guy! He's... um.... a basketball player... is that cool? Do you kids like that?" I think it was the right call.
@peterdanior453811 ай бұрын
@@MDestron2282 Jinx was the best of the new characters. And I loved what they did with Cobra Commander. His slow transformation was creepy as hell. But I still thinking killing or maiming a few Joes would have made the Cobra-La villains even better. But yeah they would have had to had better replacements, which is another thing Transformers got right. Kup & Blurr we’re great new additions.
@MDestron228211 ай бұрын
Wow! Chris, this is one of the coolest videos you've done! I really enjoyed every minute of it. Fantastic work!
@anotherdimension911611 ай бұрын
A classic! Cannot wait to see all the behind the scenes information
@Sketchschmidt11 ай бұрын
i cry even as a 41year old man every time i watch this movie
@HelloMisterJAMWAH11 ай бұрын
Same! I don't know why, maybe sheer happiness
@StiffAftermath11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the look and feel of Lithron and Kranix.
@bpo197511 ай бұрын
Excellent video as always, Chris. You're the best in the business. It's fascinating to see this early version of the movie but I don't think 11 year old me would have enjoyed it. I'm grateful that we got the movie we got.
@DBWalks201011 ай бұрын
Fantastic untold story, characters and different drafts!👍👍👍😎😎😎😎Great job Chris👌
@matteomascaropennacchi222011 ай бұрын
Please make this basics and then Powerglide or Jetstorm or Bayverse and Rotb Scrapped ideias and even Unicron and his heralds
@ryanmatthews360911 ай бұрын
no bayverse!
@brandonpage914511 ай бұрын
@@ryanmatthews3609yes bayverse!
@ryanmatthews360911 ай бұрын
@@brandonpage9145 no, it has been a big bad influence to the franchise!
@brandonpage914511 ай бұрын
@@ryanmatthews3609 what "big bad influence"? Lol
@ryanmatthews360911 ай бұрын
@@brandonpage9145 everything in it! the stories, the character designs, everything!
@turismosmoke943811 ай бұрын
Awesome I loved the presentation and narration! Well done.Thank you!
@mr.monitor794311 ай бұрын
26:35 That image goes so hard. It looks like they just got done fighting an entire army and are still ready for more
@EllinoItalos7 ай бұрын
I loved the soundtrack. As a matter of fact, a few 80's cartoons in had awesome music. Thundercats especially.
@DuzdyAnimates11 ай бұрын
It must happen, Transformers The Movie, The Friedman Cut!!!
@dublinbrummie4 ай бұрын
How many kids were scared for life after seeing this in the cinema. They wouldn't have the balls to do that now.
@Ta2dwitetrash15 күн бұрын
It was brutal in real time. They laid waste to most of my favorites. It was that moment when you realized they weren't F'n around. This was pg-13 lol
@patrickowens429411 ай бұрын
Awesome video. It's like peering into an alternate reality.
@johnosbourn431211 ай бұрын
This was very fascinating, Chris, and I really enjoyed this deep dive into the unknown history of the first Transformers movie.
@garou1211 ай бұрын
Aside from the ghost stuff and unicron bits the first draft's story sounded way better than what we got. esp liked how they actually explained why they were called the sweeps instead of what we got.
@fiercepierce263411 ай бұрын
Omg, thank you for this. Wow, the first depiction of my love. Wow, and the other scenes geez thank you so very much, my friend. And as always, til all are one
@Dezzasheep8 ай бұрын
I utterly adored this film when I was a kid.
@rayb857211 ай бұрын
This video was great, thanks for putting in the time to create and upload!! I loved learning all these alternate possibilities for this great movie!
@harumochizuki11 ай бұрын
Now THIS is AWESOME
@rob105211 ай бұрын
Bravo job on this episode! I was delighted to learn much about one of my favorite films that I never knew before. Your presentation easily connected the gaps of missing continuity and made clear sense of why certain things were presented the way there were in the film, etc.
@autumnrose529311 ай бұрын
Caught up with all of the basics just in time for this banger…what am I going to listen to on my commutes now? 😫
@alanguages10 ай бұрын
What also should be done, albeit close to 40 years later is an animate scene of the battle at the Ark, during the movie. Menasor, Bruticus and other Decepticons fighting Omega Supreme, Defensor, Superion and the Autobots stationed there. It makes sense for Megatron also doing a two point attack, as it would have prevented re-enforcements within Earth to help out at Autobot City.
@kristopherreavely724511 ай бұрын
It's still a mixed bag when it comes to storyline and such but out of all the possible versions it kind of sounds like the one we got is the best we were going to get. Looking back a complete remake would be awesome, using the concepts from future stories it could truly flesh out the Matrix, Life Sparks etc. Maybe Hasbro should crowd fund a complete remake and see what happens.
@sketchasaurrex408711 ай бұрын
I'm glad for all the rewrites and revisions. Especially the first draft sounded completely random and disjointed in telling the story.
@thecheese425511 ай бұрын
Very informative Man, I really like the concept of Rails
@liamwilliams179411 ай бұрын
Loved that chris. Great video.
@raulzavala906111 ай бұрын
You know I thought this was going into more detail like what person in charge at Hasbro was the idea of picking celebrity actors to voice the characters and whose thought was to make an all hard rock soundtrack and all that other stuff.
@KasumiKenshirou11 ай бұрын
"Kids love Lionel Stander, right?"
@HisAutisticKnight11 ай бұрын
I'm intrigued with the first draft. That sounds like it would've been one heck of a movie despite so much happening.
@seancampbell138311 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for this video! Very cool to learn some unknown info about my favourite movie! I was there in the theatre in 86 and have checked it out countless times since. Cheers!
@snokespinaltap11 ай бұрын
Wheeljack and Arcee huh
@T-Bechilln11 ай бұрын
They really need to make directors cut to this movie
@GokkunGuru11 ай бұрын
I’m glad this alternate draft didn’t get into the final version. It sucks in comparison to the actual film. Thanks for making this.