CATAMARAN vs MONOHULL: Price & Performance

Which sailboat is best: Catamaran or Monohull? We have our friends Ruby Rose visiting and we're taking about sailings biggest debate: cat vs mono.
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00:50 - The Wynns Short Catamaran Story
01:12 - Why Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose joined us
02:08 - Meet Ruby Rose
03:17 - ...and the Monohull they're selling
04:59 - Price - Mono vs Cat
07:21 - Marina Fees - Cat vs Mono
10:45 - Maintenance
11:40 - Haul Out Fees
13:54 - Catamaran vs Monhull Price Takeaway
14:36 - Performance
15:05 - Speed
16:45 - Best Sailing Angles
17:34 - The Sailing Suckage Zone
18:49 - The Comfortable Sailing Zone
19:32 - Engines: Motoring in Cuts, Passes and Foul Current
22:20 - Our Catamaran Sailing Disaster Story
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If there's one thing we've learned over the past few years of sailing around the world: There's no perfect sailboat! The catamaran vs monohull debate is mostly hype and we've done our best to stay away from adding to the noise.
When we heard our friends from Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose are thinking of selling their monohull to purchase a catamaran, we invited them to come crew with us...and that led to talks of cruising life in a mono vs a cat.
We were talking about it anyway so why not film and share? In this video we're discussing price and performance.
We hope you find this conversation based on our collective experiences helpful. If you're in the market to purchase a sailboat remember the Mantra: Spend Smart and Stress Less. Monohull or multihull...in the end the best boat is the one you can afford to purchase now.
⭐ After you hit that play button we'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments below: What's you're preferred style of sailboat? Are you in the Monohull or Catamaran camp...or maybe you'd prefer to sail a mono but cruise in a cat? What's your favorite brand? It's always fascinating to read what draws each person to one type/brand/style of sailboat.
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- Jason, Nikki, Cleo and Singa 😻
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[@sailingrubyrose]

The one thing this made us realise is how much we miss you two. We hope we can catch up somewhere in the world real soon, whether that is in the USA, Europe or someplace crazy.

[@CCB249]

Watching the 4 of you together is really a lot of fun! We all hope you can meet up again.

[@hansk.4482]

On a Cat😉😂

[@mirta19422]

I think you guys need to go stay on Ruby Rose.

[@melissastarnes9004]

I like both of y'all's channels!

[@tamethewilderness5107]

I have been watching both channels as well as a few others. I’ve been so inspired by this life style that it is now the goal I’m working towards.

[@TraneFrancks]

Another aspect of the debate that seldom gets addressed is the issue of beaching. Very, very few cats seem to be built with beaching in mind, but a number of the shallow-/swing keel monos come equipped with twin rudders so the boat can be beached and dried out. Their Southerly is one such boat. On the cat side, boats such as the Maverick and Antares are both explicitly designed to enable beaching. I suspect your Leopard, with its skegged rudders and shaft drives, would beach just fine, even if it isn't expressly encouraged.

[@bestvip5803]

I'll throw in my two cents having spent time on both. If you plan on living on it with more than two people Catamaran is hands down the best option. More stable, faster cruise on sail and it's basically a floating condo, can't beat it, no monohull can compete. If you're going bigger than 55ft you can probably get away with either

[@stuiescampingadventures]

Can't believe that convo only lasted one drink!!!

[@pic18f452]

when you are averaging 6-7 knots, is that by sail only? or with engine assist? Also, for someone with sea sickness, which hull design is more stable on rolling and pitching?

[@gonewiththewynns]

That would be sail only. As for the sea sickness, some people say the motion of a cat is better while others say it’s more erratic. I think it’s best to sail on both in similar conditions and see which one works best for you 👍🏻

[@bombadil776]

Love.

[@nolongeramused8135]

Why not a tri-hull?

[@TampaTec]

after watching few of these mono vs cat, i feel most start off with mono then upgrade to cat later when they want comfort to live aboard and have enough money saved to upgrade. either way you have the same experience when visiting islands and same experience sailing in storms.

[@CesarGonzalez-kt7vp]

I often ask myself why do I read, watch, listen to things that I know I will never use or apply and I always come up with the same answer. Knowledge / learning is like a Swiss Army Knife. Thank You Guys for adding to my cluttered mind. Cheers!!!

[@gonewiththewynns]

😂 You are welcome!

[@superdon1chw]

I agree I wish I felt this way in school

[@surfside75]

Yeah you never know when you'll be at the helm of a catamaran. -😂🍻🌿💙🇱🇷✝️

[@Dudebroski1]

This was a fantastic conversation by two of my favorite creators. Thank You Guys. I learned a lot and will put this info to good use.

[@gonewiththewynns]

happy to share Zach...& thanks for the kind comment.

[@HighfalutinLowCarb]

This was so fun!! We spent about 10 days in the BVI’s on a 2007 Leopard 420 this past Christmas, and we loved it! It was fun to pretend we were Jason and Nikki for a few days!

[@donb4386]

When I used to ride motorcycles often I was asked what is my favourite bike. My answer was always the same; the one I am riding now. My sense is it would be the same regarding sailboats. I own a monohull, a big fat bottomed girl, cutter rigged Bayfield 32 and for me, right now, everything considered, I love it. Either the boat suits my sailing habits, or my sailing habits suit the boat, but it works. I’m sure if I owned a cat I’d feel exactly he same. That said If I’m shopping for my next boat, price is a defining factor and would probably take the cat out of the equation, but if the boat has sails and Mother Nature is giving me some wind, I’ll still be thrilled.

[@moskito5864]

so buy a Monohull if you want to sail and be safe(r) in rough weather, big waves and strong winds and buy a Catamaran when you are more planning of living in a huge area in the tropics and pray there is no hurricane? Cats have for sure more space but no, i just dont trust them on long hauls enough... thing is I actually never see a cat in the the North Sea or the Baltic sea but a lot here in Asia. Stay safe

[@helenbell1715]

im sorry you don't feel they are very stable. We feel they are very stable. The reason you don't see cats in the north sea orr baltic is because the marinas are not meant for cats. we have sailed over 10000nm in rough weather and big seas and run from hurricanes. Enjoy your monohull x

[@moskito5864]

@@helenbell1715 I am just thinking and try to collect as many infos i can get Helen. I did not mean to offend any Cat-Owner. During the past days i am more and more convinced of this ships ;) happy sailing

[@bilyd333]

Let's be honest.....brutally honest.....IT'S ALL ABOUT THE COST!!!! PERIOD! EVERYTHING IS ABOUT THE COST! If a boat buyer has 100k they have 0 ability to buy a cat. Cats are outrageously more expensive upfront. I am talking in the 40ft range capable of crossing oceans. Sure it may be possible to find 1 cat that is 30 yo, open, with a bucket for a head and a hammock for a cabin for under $100k, but what are you going to live on?! I can give a endless examples and the bottom line is MMMOOONNNEEEYYY!!!!!!

[@jasondawson6777]

Love Ruby Rose boat reviews. Great choice for this discussion. Hope you had a great week.

[@petertorrey236]

It seems the comparison is always being made with both types being similarly sized....not fair. Of course a 43 Cat is superior to a 40 Mono except in deep water gale conditions. The comparison I would make is between a 40- 45 Cat and a 55-65 Mono. I think the " at anchor" space and comfort is similar in that context. As far as at sail? It depends on the type of motion you prefer. Regardless..nice video as usual by both couples and a interesting subject.

[@garyherlth9031]

Hi there this is Sunday the 7th of July. I am here at my desktop watching my favorite family the Wynns. Cleo, Singra, Niki and Jayson. And I prefer the Catamaran. YOU HAVE MORE SPACE LEFT TO RIGHT. PERIOD. YOU MAY HAVE A LONGER FRONT TO BACK ON A MONO HAUL but I prefer the left to right space. Period again.

[@mikeh720]

@Geoff Strebel but you've wasted a mimosa, leaving it out all day. Now it's warm and flat. Mimosa 1 - Geoff 0.

[@mikeh720]

@Geoff Strebel Touche! Well played sir

[@johnnylightning1491]

Not something I'm terribly interested in, mainly because I couldn't drag my wife on to a sailboat with a brace of Clydesdales, but informative nonetheless. Personally I think it's basically the Ford/Chevy debate. Everyone on each side thinks they have the better craft but you all did a really good job showing that the debate is really all about 10% and the other 90% is about equal. Good job you two, and keep the videos coming.

[@johnnylightning1491]

And you know his how? Oh yea, because you don't! Please keep your unkind comments to another channel or better yet to yourself because no one cares but you.

[@bubbagail7450]

You guys should get both your boats in the same pond at the same time and buddy boat, island hop together for a couple of months together, you would absolutely blow up youtube on both your chanels. Great Vid.

[@sailingrubyrose]

Wouldn't that be amazing!?

[@daneatherton7886]

@@sailingrubyrose or Jason and Niki could visit you in the Med on the mono

[@PastorShayne]

True dat

[@christinec1928]

Wouldn't that be fun. It would sure make for great videos.

[@itzanopinion]

That would be good..or better yet, buddy boat w/Riley and Elayna of *Sailing La Vagabond* :-)

[@cliffandrews]

"Your half a boat" that's funny.

[@gonewiththewynns]

😂

[@Bluestone2611]

In a nut shell, cats sail ON the water, mono’s sail IN the water. Cats are faster, more spacious, better to entertain on. Monos are cheaper to own, safer in heavy weather, and Point marginally higher. They also cost less. After a Cyclone/Hurricane, you may see monos washed up on beaches, but you don’t see them flipped upside down like a turtle on their back. Cats are faster, much more spacious and deep down, I think 98% of us mono owners have a deep secret fantasy of owning a nice cat one day...

[@ppumpkin3282]

Pretty much it. But when I get my nice cat, it will be when my heavy weather sailing is over. Also Cats have shallower drafts. Also I've heard that Cats are not good upwind - and the difference is more than marginal - but I don't have my own experience on Cats.

[@fifich6953]

👌👍

[@cgkalwaysproper]

fucking millennials and their catamarans. mono for life.

[@bobbates6642]

Hopefully the matter of the ability to cook and just stand up with out holding on while sailing on a cat should be mentioned. I have never seen you two with a strap to keep you up while you cook .

[@beccaleriche1947]

You're old salt now Nikki & Jason! Long may your big jib draw!!

[@mysticalmisfit1332]

Another great video 😊 Nikki, you look so much like Audrey Hepburn in this one. Has anyone ever told you that? You were giving me Breakfast at Tiffany’s vibes🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@cnbcoldnorthbygg479]

For me, the only reason why l would never go to a catamaran is that Monohull has a keel and even if it's flipped over monohull will return back in a normal position where Catamaran will never do that.

[@deborahsundbergdvorak7779]

3rd!! Sunday inspiration with the Wynns!! Nothing better especially with ☕️! As always safe travels and stay safe💕💕

[@GaryMCurran]

I really did enjoy Nick and Terysa's videos of the week they spent with you. Because of that, I'm now following them, even though I had watched a couple of their catamaran shopping videos. I'm glad you all were able to get together. Now, we just need to get you guys hooked up with Zatara and family! When I win that lottery, I'll be following in your wake!

[@nooneanybodyknows1321]

Zatara! Yes!👍

[@DE1049]

Speaking of Zatara, I believe they are also in French Polynesia right now. So should be somewhere close.

[@GaryMCurran]

@@DE1049 which is why I said what I said.

[@ralphholiman7401]

A discussion that never gets old! We bought our monohull (Catalina 42) instead of a catamaran, simply due to price. We just couldn’t afford to even consider a catamaran. But, all things being equal, we would have gone for a cat. Just for the room. Offshore, I’d rather be in a mono hull, but we just don’t spend much time offshore. Enjoyed your video!

[@brianjoyce9742]

A good listen. Great conversational charisma amongst this group's dynamic. All spoke to the topic in appropriate measure. Thanks for the info

[@yamon9896]

Neither of you raise the point that a mono haul heels over spilling air, which in a big blow could demast a cat. Safety is a consideration

[@acpliego]

Really price point should be the standard for comparing sailboats, feet are subjective since cats are almost twice in area and more expensive. Maybe comparing a 43 ft cat vs a 50 ft mono would be better. The thing I liked the most of what you said is that catamarans retain more value, that’s important. Anyway I would like to know what you can get with 250,000 dlls in cats and monohauls . I liked your video a lot though. To be honest I had other channels that I preferred in the past but now you’re on the top of my list. You are great people.

[@Farwalker2u]

The way I evaluate the relative values in comparing mono-hulls v. catamarans must include price per square foot and/or price per cubic foot. When you do that the catamarans often work out to cost less and are a better value. Also, I believe that all categories are not equal; and therefore, a weighted average to account for which factors are more important than others must be used. This weighted average is highly personal but look to what you do most often and what categories contribute to increasing your confidence in sailing or enjoyment at both anchor or sailing. Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose has videos which use five categories: safety & design, build quality, interior design, performance, and value for money. Their videos offer lots of valuable information. My issue is whether each category is of equal weight. Thanks for sharing.

[@nooneanybodyknows1321]

The two types of personalities displayed here. Type A Nicki and Nick lead the conversation and Type B Jason and Terysa follow occasionally. Interesting civil conversation. 😎

[@hansmuller1846]

But Nick sometimes couldn't really start talking because all 3 others were so busy :D

[@Frindleeguy]

Nick was clearly being deferential. He is an extremely intelligent, polite type A. There's no doubt about that.

[@troybabs]

All 4 are type A... Nicki just talks more than the others :)

[@ericl1166]

@@Frindleeguy got the feeling Nikki didn't care for him much and he was biting his tongue. Which is unlike Nick.

[@Frindleeguy]

@@ericl1166 That's definitely possible. I have a suspicion that off camera, she's a real handful. I'm being as gentle as possible, but you probably get my drift ;)

[@MadBull24]

That is not what they say about opinions lol 0:20.

[@drwindsurf]

I loved listenning to this discussion, especially knowing which direction Nick and Terysa have chosen for their next boat. Thank you for another great video :)

[@luciaraubenheimer5638]

I like a Cat due to the comfort and space 😎. Nice vlog xxx

[@Sebastianontour]

Yes! I already have seen all the Ruby/Wynns Videos on their channel. :-)

[@alpensler5844]

Very good episode. Enjoyed it quite a bit. I am not sure about how delayed are your episodes are but the Zatara (Sailing Zatara) is in Tahiti this week and they did make that change from a monohull to a Cat and Keith has sworn that he would never go back. This is the second time they’re in Tahiti and they started with the same experience as the two of you at around the same time. Perhaps you can search them out and get their feelings and feedback on the move to a catamaran. Your’s and their channels are the two that I look forward to watching. Keep up the fantastic work.

[@gonewiththewynns]

The Wynns are no longer in French Polynesia but I'm sure they'll bump into each other at some point. Just not literally we hope. :) Curious Minion

[@joek.6666]

As the old saying goes, “One sailboat is sailing, two sailboats are racing!” Thank you for another great conversation. You continue to produce high quality, entertaining, and informative content!

[@stufields1385]

Having sailed a 36' McGregor cat in the Marshall islands, three things: 1. No bruise sailing. Boat doesn't heel over anywhere like a mono hull. 2. Most stable position of heavy keeled monohull is on the bottom. Most stable position for most cats is just upside down. We could fill our cat with water and sail away. 3. Speed 4. Watched a long term cruising family jump over the side and swim to shore at an anchorage during a typhoon. Their boat was pitching an rolling too much to allow sleep. (Of course being on the shore watching their boat didn't make sleeping very easy either). Our Cat was just going thru some more gentle pitching motion. No roll. TWO HULLS TO CLEAN. While we had seen 22kts under sail, the normal cruise speed was more like 9kts and even then on some seas you had to watch jumping off the back of a wave into the face of another, risking pitchpoleing. Didn't enjoy passages as they, even with the numerous squalls, were boring. We didn't have an autopilot though so constant hand steering was required.

[@robertburnett1970]

My two favorite sailing channels in one video!

[@jeffvw1994]

One of the biggest questions should be for cruising is what will survive a knockdown? (those squalls can be sneaky)

[@NPCSN]

jeff vw catamarans are just as stable upside down as right side up... that’s why my plan is for a monohull.

[@jeffvw1994]

@@NPCSN I've heard they're way more stable upside down, good reason to have a openable hatch on the bottom of the hull.

[@NPCSN]

jeff vw 🧐 let me check my nope-book on catamarans... 😂🤣😂

[@jameshodgins1937]

1st. Watched the video all the way through. Got out and came back in and now 2052! That's roughly 89 people a minute! You guys rock!

[@garyherlth9031]

Finally Jason and the other chaps wife are trying to be apart of the conversation.

[@thechaplain9906]

We’ve only had Motor Yachts. I couldn’t imagine being healed over in a monohull while sailing, and/or rolling at anchor all day & night while listening to the rigging clanking & rattling. Plus I enjoy 20 plus knots to get while the getting is good...But hey that’s just me Great Video as Always, and no fists were flying...😂😂😂

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

👍👍

[@AmandavilleTV]

Love the videos

[@zackworrell]

catamaran is fun buy more like buying 2 boats and rarely as durable or good resale

[@tomsnow2563]

Great video, I struggled with the cat vs mono as well and decided to build my own cat to get everything that is important to me in my boat. Buy vs build might be an interesting show. Cheers

[@edrosenberger6947]

That wonderful keel on Ruby Rose makes her a my favorite monohull. I like heavy displacement mono and cat sailboats for their comfort in rough seas and their load carrying capacity, compared to low displacement ones. Speed is nice but it rates below a high displacement boat for cruising. If my choice was between a Southerly or a Lagoon of the same length, I would chose the Lagoon. This was an excellent discussion and I cannot wait for Part 2.....thank you, both couples!!!!

[@NPCSN]

Comparing speed of two boats with different hull-speeds...🤔

[@bobbates6642]

Sales of catamarans is so much higher then mono hulls. If I was to start a boat building company for ocean going vessels it would certainly be one that made catamarans

[@Eyagsf]

My husband and I had this discussion for years. He was a 4th generation boat builder. Our first boat together was a small racing catamaran. The question of speed always made us lean towards the catamaran as our choice to circumnavigate the world. My best friend (husband) went to work one day & at the age of 50 died of a heart attack. My point is: do your homework... but, just go for it! These folks did and I loved their collaboration. ~ Love from a fellow Texas sailor💙

[@Eyagsf]

RedEyeOfJupiter 2121 ...I am.... although I’m doing it in a land yacht. I’ve been a full-time rv traveler for over a year now. 20,000 miles so far. Thank you for your kind words💕

[@edwalton4397]

Great conversation and thanks for introducing me to Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose.

[@driesdejager4049]

I beg to differ on the antifouling question. Anti-fouling a Cat is not more expensive - the surface area on a monohull is mostly larger than that on a Cat

[@ObamaoZedong]

I was going to say this exactly.

[@johndonaldson5126]

One thing that SV Delos found with their series on Cat vs Mono was the Cat sailors say you have to de-tune the sails a bit to keep the stresses down on a cat. With a mono it automatically spills wind by healing. The cat won't do that so the shrouds take on a lot more stress. This sounds like a wise discovery and ultimately it means the potential speed gap between a cat and a mono is less.

[@NPCSN]

Catamarans: just as stable upside down as right side up. 😂

[@Zenergist]

Hello comrade! They're actually more stable upside down lol. A cat once tipped over never will return to its upright position.

[@alexwalters4862]

Why is this the best comment I’ve ever read

[@Mariposabonita65]

Excellent advice, comparisons and information. Thankyou so much guys for making this very informed video 👍💯😊

[@jameshuebner8194]

Great! I'm a fan of both The WYnn's and SYRR so it was a great discussion to see and learn from. ALso, I loved the backdrop :) Life is good!

[@billvandenouden7302]

I think there should have been more drinks served but they would have been more of a heated debate only kidding Vegas bill you guys rock

[@gauguin007]

A cruising boat is both a vehicle and s home. If your priority is a comfortable home then I guess you would want a catamaran. The key question is what’s the price of a catamaran and how much monohull can you get for the same money .

[@marzsit9833]

catamarans don't do well in storms, and the big deck areas are terrible for big waves crashing over them.

[@helenbell1715]

what catamaran were you on?

[@jeroenjansen2709]

Catamaran,: faster and more space but can tip over and is not as strong in heavy seas

[@kelly-jeanjohnstone-byrd7167]

I loved this video on the Monohaul vs the catamaran.. I agree it is the most asked question when someone goes and buys a boat.. for personally I would choose the catamaran owners hull only because of the separation from the guests or family... I also get scared just looking at a monohaul on its side in the water it looks as though it's going to fall over😊 Thank you for sharing some beautiful pictures and this weeks amazing video... love b.c. you guys along with Miss Cleo and Singa💜💜💜💜💜💜💞💞💞💞💞💞😎😎😎😎😎😎💜🌺🍇🌺🍇🌺🍇🌺

[@BB_Chaptsick]

Not the usual stunning video of seascapes and mountainsides but interesting nonetheless with hearing the different perspectives. Looking forward to next Sunday morning. Till then, you both be safe.

[@daleandersen9579]

Not that I'm against Cats, I find Monos better insulated for cold weather! If I limited my sailing to the Med or Carib, I would get a Cat!!

[@KIMI-xt4eb]

What ever floats your boat!!yes pun intended😀😀😀 be well!!⚓⚓🚣

[@lydiabuhler7283]

What i got from the video: is that the cat meowing in the background lol???

[@gonewiththewynns]

😆 Always....

[@JohnPaul-ts8dq]

That was a very thoughtful and gracious thing you did about the boats. Bless you both, wonderful video. 👍👍😊

[@gregprince2523]

This is what the instant media should be useful for!! Great great hands on sharing and experiences! This should happen across the board on all things mechanical!! It would help cut down our human footprint on the eco system tremendously..... Not as many mistakes, turn ins or just shelved and never used! Great job guys!

[@Johnsouthshore]

Great episode.. lots to consider.. haul out.. especially..

[@rickhuttono1]

You did a program covering exactly what I wanted to know... My last bit of research is how well the span between the hulls hold up thru heavy seas over an extended period...

[@ellabella2603]

I guess the living at an angle conversation will be in the comfort video. Although I like the look of a monohull, the 2 engines and flat sailing surface (okay, semi flat sailing surface) would sell me on the cat. 🐈 And the trampoline. Because it is a great place to sit.

[@garyherlth9031]

Hi all of the Wynns followers. I am just having fun with my comments as life is good. I means no harm but just fun in my comments. But Nikki did say the word Freaking and I want to know who was playing footsies under the table..LOL

[@alexanderordinary2110]

should've gone with a trimaran.....

[@slamboy66]

20:53 Cats are hungry.

[@gonewiththewynns]

😹

[@dmax5722]

My turn... Mono's are beautiful, cats are utilitarian. Cats are easier to sail, mono's require more attention especially when running. Don't buy an old fixed keeled cat (daggers and center boards point upwind better faster), they all sail sideways close hauled/reach. Wide hulls are slow, no matter what you buy, even worse on a mono (save IMOCA60's with canting keel). Always consider mast position and weight distribution on any vessel or you may find it impossible to balance the vessel on a sail, balance = speed and ease (your gonna get sick if you can't balance the boat). For live aboard's cats have mooooore room and you can see forever, and ever, and... (from the salon). Maintenance? MEH! It's a vehicle on a wet caustic UV infused environment, all will succumb to the sea...

[@Zenergist]

Catamaran's have a lot of practical benefits. I can't help but think that you get less bang for your buck with them though in terms of quality. I'm paying 2x for many systems, such as engines, props, cabinetry. Most of the catamarans I see look like ikea condos on floats. It's really hard to find a catamaran which hits all of the criteria I'd expect in a price point I'm happy with. Monohulls just seem sturdier, and while smaller per foot, they cost less. It feels like the density of value/$ spent is higher on a monohull, but you have to put up with the various monohull negatives. This video doesn't make the decision easier XD. Cost, Performance, Safety, Comfort. Monohull, Catamaran, maybe a tie, catamaran. I would actually give the safety rating to the monohull. They are clearly designed for water, whereas catamarans are designed for comfort. Catamarans attempt to defy nature, while monohulls embrace it. Bouyancy is not something a monohull deals with so much as it embraces. I'd trust a monohull in a storm much more than a catamaran, which clearly has many more stress points and less capability for "wading" through the water. On the other hand, a sailboat can sink if punctured... Still, I think the odds of a boat threatening puncture is less than ending up in a moderate storm.

[@timothyfritsch8801]

well good topic i might like to try and explain boatyards in venice and genoa wich are not always online off season there are few deals also in america why i have no clue butt some folks have them in there back yards mostly forgotten it is true nobody going to give a boat away butt repairing and storage has a huge effect in some places drive prices down as are the outboard motors and other equipment half price is better then scrap price

[@timothyfritsch8801]

OMG i cannot believe it you wrote back geez anyway thank you thank you amazin folks that you are wow what a great decision you both made ,,,i am tryin to catchup lot of videos you have how long have you been out there

[@fordog]

A conversation on which sailboat is best , Catamaran or Monohull , for that long and not turning into at least one call for a " Man overboard " is simply amazing ! Shows Sailors do have more fun ! I think for the question for survival is that a mono in a really bad storm , can flip all the way around and up again , were as a cat flips , and it is just holding on praying for help to arrive . Although very rare , thank God ! There was a movie about this in 2015 called "Abandoned " which took place near New Zealand . Your video was Great on a never ending subject !

[@rnordquest]

Speed difference isn't that great unless there's a checkered flag at the anchorage/marina. Not seen one of the videos here with a flag.

[@nanderlizernanderlizer684]

or trying to avoid a storm or if you dont want to be in the middle of the sea for months...

[@rnordquest]

@@nanderlizernanderlizer684 To have any real hope of avoiding a storm you need to be at 9-10 kts. Your basic trawlers have a hard enough time at 8. If time is of the essence you wouldn't have chosen sailing as it is. It has to be about the journey, even when it's slow, especially when it's slow.

[@juancruzmonticelli5577]

This was such a great conversation! I must admit, I am more of a monohull kind of person, but I certainly can appreciate the advantages of catamarans.

[@christinec1928]

Suckage Zone ... LOL :D Kidding aside, this was one of the most enlightening episodes I've seen yet. I'm looking forward to Part 2.

[@ericl1166]

Big fan of Ruby Rose and the Wynns, so I was looking forward to this crossover. Was disappointed, I found it hard to watch. Couldn't even get through part 2, one of the few times I ever turned off either of these channels. Needed more Jason and Terysa to bring down the tension.

[@JBHARLEYGUY]

I love your boat!

[@maureentweedly]

Great fun and info....I have been watching Ruby Rose ever since they visited you. Love their comparisons on cats.....so informative.

[@LearningtheLines]

Great conversation guys! We're at the point where we're seriously considering building a performance catamaran. I want to go 20 knots!

[@roidigitalggroup1721]

If I was going to Europe from the USA I would want to be in a monohull...It's just my dog and I...I feel more safe in a monohull going long distance over 4 days...If a mono flips over it will right itself if a catamaran flips over from wind or high seas then its game over...

[@California__Sun]

Wow interesting....I lived on a Catalina boat, sailboat, we sailed from LA to Catalina most weekends, the worst part is the tipping of the sailboat, Catamaran wins for me for sure....haha Wins Wynns!!!⛵🏝️⛵💙⛵💙⛵💙⛵💙⛵💙🤍💜💚💛🧡❤️💝💕♥️💖💗 and safety is the Cat for sure. Walking at midnight on a night sail without a moon is scary on a sailboat, the cat seems a lot safer. Plus......sun protection I have noticed with your cockpit is a super healthy factor....the sailboat was always unprotected, its not always fun, especially in 20ft waves in a storm, we Almost died, I think a Cat would have been so much safer.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@wynnroberts5388]

Is that Singa or Cleo caterwauling?

[@gonewiththewynns]

Singa is the big mouth of the family! Curious Minion

[@garyherlth9031]

Wow I did wake up with the Wynns. I was #7 on the comments list. WOOOOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

[@marceld6061]

Nice seeing the four of you together again. Two great couples. It seems your having N&T crew on your boat has converted Nick to a catamaran as they are currently shopping for one. One misconception I would like to add to the debate about "extra costs for 2 engines on a cat". Let's say you change oil on an engine every 100 hours, for example. If you alternate the running your Cat engines, port side for 100 and starboard for the next 100, you are changing oil the exact same amount as on a monohull! You are just getting HALF the wear and tear. By the time you have to replace both engines, a monohull, under the same sailing conditions with a similar engine size, will have needed to replace their's twice.

[@gonewiththewynns]

Great point!

[@bounceballz4962]

NOOBS talking to NOOBS. Leopards are Motor Sailers. If you want to have to carry a full tank of fuel and more water than you need for your 2-3 day voyage (ie NZ to Fiji) then buy a tank like a Leopard 43. The Safest Hulls are those that get your voyage done the quickest (ie NOT A LEOPARD), fact, the longer you are at sea the more likely something catastrophic can occur. A Seawind is 8000lb less displacement than a Leopard and you loose next to nothing if not you gain that massive indoor outdoor fold up window area. And they are half the price. If you are a nancy boy then fine full your 700kg of Diesel, of which if you knew how to sail something like a seawind or any lightweight performance cat, you prob wont even need 10% of that, simply for docking. Learn how to sail. This is why NZ owns the Americas cup. Its part of of our school Curriculum to learn how to sail. Invest in that first, then buy the fastest yacht that meets your comfort requirements. Simple. Only idiots pay 50% more just because its a cat, that was such a dumb statement. Plenty of Cats are cheaper because they are not rocket science, less weight, more beam = safer ride. Also Seawinds for example use outboards which do not have legs sticking in the water causing drag. You can also wash them off with fresh water after each use saving $1000sss

[@MuddyDuck...]

Have recently found this channel, and really enjoyed catching up on your adventures. But this was the first episode I didn’t enjoy. I should have, as it was a great topic, between a group of clearly knowledgeable people. But for me was sadly ruined by Nikki continuously talking over everybody. Maybe it was the rum, or the novelty of her having someone other than Jason to talk to. But the poor guy barely got a sentence in. And when he did, he was NEVER allowed to finish it. Perhaps in any future such discussions, it would be better for Nikki to act as host, asking the questions and listening to others reply, before stating her opinion or summarising? Just a suggestion...

[@stevenkritzer6020]

I remember Nick and Terysa, I believe they were in Charleston SC and encountered a little snow. Nick was not happy and Terysa was adorable, celebrating the snow. "Winter snow storm hits the boat Ep.43" kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJiTY2iYftBgha8 Revisiting: It's a fourteen minute Nick rant with. "... it will never be a enema bag," as the quote of the episode. The polarization (pun intended) between these two is pretty entertaining. Hey Nick, my friend wrote a fantastic song for occasions like this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZWwfJ17jLJmmpY

[@shawnmoore9380]

I know this is 4 years old but.......... Niki, opinions are like assholes; everyone has one and they all stink! LOL

[@bobzzz312]

Grew up on Oahu, never thought of boats. Now that i live in Chicago I stumble on a video of a guy doing LA to HI on a 23 ft solo... suddenly I’m trying to convince my wife we that should sell our condo and live on a cat. Thanks hehe my entire endgame goals have changed. How’s stargazing out there? Nice vid, subbed.

[@xyzaero]

People just don't get it. You can't compare a 40 foot mono and a 40 foot CAT and then say that a cat is 50 percent more expensive. To make a fair comparison you have to look at the living space, square footage. To get the same size (living space) mono, compared to a CAT, you have to look at a way bigger mono. For example, to compare a 40 foot CAT with a mono, you will have to look at least at a 60 or 70 foot mono haul, if not even larger and then the costs, space and comfort will be about the same.

[@davidlund4842]

So this "suckage zone????.... Apparently an industry term. I've done a bit of research and I found one definition defining suckage as "negative wind", whatever that means??? To me it sounds perhaps like suckage is a reference to the sucking (holding back) performance the boat exhibits in a certain true wind condition. So again, what is this "suckage zone"??? Is it simply that the boat's performance "sucks" within defined wind directions Thanks

[@jasongrinnell1986]

Why does it seem like I’ve seen this footage already? Ruby Rose, Did y’all have a video similar to this one?

[@gonewiththewynns]

There's a link in the end credits to Ruby Rose's series on this. So yes. Curious Minion

[@jasongrinnell1986]

Lol! TY 🤪

[@albertoantunes9579]

I love you guys , you make great videos, but you got a few things wrong on this one. Like you said in one video , you have been sailing just for a few years and no previous experiences. I think you uses some information from the internet that is completely wrong, and wound be great if you can fix it. One that is very untrue is that cats can flip but it is better than Monohulls that will go to the bottom of the ocean. I read this also. Pure propaganda from Catamaran’s manufactures or sellers. It is extremely difficult to sink a good monohull just because of bad weather. It can flip , more difficult than a cat, but will flip back because of the weight on the keel and if by any chance it looses the keel, it will be upside down just like a cat and will not sink either. Perfomance cats are fast, but are more likely to flip. Cruiser cats are not that fast especially if you over load it. Also there are many diferentes models of Monohulls . For example a Aluminium Monohull is super safe and can be faster than a cat. The topic is very complex, but been brief, cats win in space and comfort big time, but in moderated seas. It is the Cadillac of sailboats. But if you want to go anywhere in the world, your need a 4 x 4 of the seas. A aluminum center board, like a Alubat, Allures , Alliage, Garcia and others. You can go from the shallow banks of Bahamas all the way to Antártica!!!!!!! I still like you guys ok !!!! :-)