Catastrophic Fire In The Cargo (ValuJet Flight 592) DISASTER BREAKDOWN

ValuJet Flight 592 suffered a catastrophic fire on board. The DC9 plane was flying between Miami and Atlanta on May 11th 1996. The fire had originated in the plane's forward cargo compartment. Just what was on board that plane that made the fire so dangerous.? What caused the fire on Valujet flight 592?
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[@DisasterBreakdown]

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[@kristita_888]

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[@DisasterBreakdown]

@@kristita_888 Wow thank you, I greatly appreciate it.

[@No-is2cj]

Damn you'd be one of the only creators I'd 100% support on Patreon, when I get cash I'm totally donating

[@MicrowavedPlastic]

@@DisasterBreakdown what flight simulator do you use

[@DisasterBreakdown]

@@MicrowavedPlastic I use X-plane

[@Vulpes89]

Valujet: where your safety is our Number 76 priority

[@mrkipling2201]

I thought it was 124th priority!!!

[@EFFEZE]

The name dosnt instill the greatest confidence in the ability to not kill you.

[@change_your_oil_regularly4287]

Still higher than Adam Air's I believe. It's just ValuJet gets more attention due to the portion of the world it operated in.

[@helenwilliams7065]

Just sounds like Walmart's discount airline, "Great Value Jet".

[@adotintheshark4848]

"parachutes are optional"

[@1jlathem]

My son was on this flight and I am outraged that the CEO of Valujet was not prosecuted. He is responsible for the deaths of 110 people. Beyond reprehensible!

[@seattlejayde]

I am so sorry and share in your outrage

[@longbeach7623]

My condolences for your loss.

[@YazziesWeirdVids]

Sorry for your loss

[@Greatanotherchannel]

Condolences

[@mrkipling2201]

I’m really sorry to hear that. My condolences and best wishes to you and your family.

[@EvanEscher]

"The CEO is now with Allegiant" God Damn it, of course he is. That just makes too much sense

[@melatoninqueen6914]

Yet another reason I will not fly Allegiant

[@EvanEscher]

@@melatoninqueen6914 I flew Allegiant once from Bozeman to Phoenix/Mesa. I didn't mind the flight, but the reason I took it was because I needed to go from Montana to Arizona, and Allegiant happened to offer that flight that day. I'd prefer them to American Eagle or United Express, but otherwise I'd avoid them.

[@Tran3x72]

alligient is horrible too

[@JoeyFlyBoy]

No wonder Allegiant have a similar livery like Valujet

[@Tran3x72]

@@JoeyFlyBoy true

[@Lieutenxnt_Dxn]

Wow I can’t believe the ceo didn’t face any legal repercussions for what he did, or more accurately what he didn’t do. Down right criminal, and the fact that he’s still in the industry is even more mind blowing.

[@menkedegroot3382]

He is doing great...... There is no justice. wallmine.com/people/1170/maurice-j-jr-gallagher

[@Ozymandias1]

@@menkedegroot3382 Only low trees catch the most wind.

[@aidancoutts2341]

CEO's structure the company so they have enough plausible deniability for illegal stuff. They cause almost all of it, but its hard to convict them considering they barely do any work. They will appoint underlings who share their disregard for safety and love of profits, but you'll never hear them say 'I want us to spend less money on safety so that we have more profits' They are aware of the issues but claim not to be, saying it's on a managerial level and 'against the policy of the company' Which we all know is rubbish.

[@museumghost]

I can’t imagine being a person who puts money before the lives of others...soulless

[@millennialhonkey8929]

@@museumghost lol welcome to modernity...

[@idriscorvus2237]

Boasting about how shit they treat their employees???? Dang.

[@tanvirahmed539]

RyanAir does the same

[@TorchMagick]

There's not an airline on this planet that treats their employees with decency and respect. I took an early retirement rather than subject myself to the nonsense and duplicity endemic to civilian aviation. Safety should be paramount,but it takes a back seat to management bonuses,duplicity,and general infighting among all working groups. Yes,I'm bitter-I've earned it...

[@cubeincubes]

The world has been run by slave traders for a LONG time.

[@goose607]

I’m fairly certain valujet is the dollar store of aviation 😂

[@vickiweber4718]

Value Jet = the Walmart of airlines

[@bruceclevenger9343]

I had a seat booked on that flight, but changed my flight arrangements a few weeks prior so I could have an extra day in Miami. It was a Saturday. I was laying on the beach when the plane crashed. I saw the Miami-Dade and Coastguard helicopters fly over the beach heading towards the crash site in the Glades. I went back to my room and turned on the news, then passed out when I saw what had happened. I took a bus back to Ohio and didn't fly again for a few years.

[@ninsku3739]

Glad to hear you were safe but sorry you had to experience that

[@indielixir100]

I agree that must’ve been traumatizing

[@kimberleigh8345]

Omg,! I can’t believe that! Cra cra

[@THELICENSEDGURU]

So glad you’re ok Bruce… My parents took the last successful flight to celebrate 40th b-day, just completed senior year & days from turning 18… They became very friendly w/ pilots, crew, & stewardess’s, the staff all briefly talked about condition of the plane when my Dad seriously but kindly questioned the pilot while boarding if it was held together with duct tape, they called over a stewardess in mid-air when water began pouring from most of everyone’s individual above head air-conditioning vents, where the wiring’s incased, one lady’s sweater was soaked… Dan Rather had local CBS crew do a local (not nationally aired) interview about their reaction to the news… I know what you mean, i can’t describe the feeling after re-visiting this years later…

[@bruceclevenger9343]

@@THELICENSEDGURU Candi Kubeck was the pilot for one of my flights from Dulles to Miami. The whole thing was surreal.

[@kasatka3690]

Every single thing leading up to this crash sounds like Final Destination movie. The logo on those planes looked like graffiti.

[@brianwong7285]

In fact the crash from the very first Final Destination movie has it’s parallels with that of TWA Flight 800...

[@kasatka3690]

@@brianwong7285 I'll have to look that one up! Thanks!

[@decemberjoy86]

You might find this strange, but I think your video may have just saved me from the possibility of a horrible demise. I have heard of this particular accident many times and that ValuJet was absolutely awful. However, many of the deplorable safety violations I was unaware of until watching this. When you said that the CEO of ValuJet is now running Allegiant Air, it completely terrified me. My local airport is small; what you might call a regional airport. Allegiant is a very popular carrier here. Just a few days ago I was browsing through flights to an upcoming family wedding in Florida (oddly enough) , and was considering using it. However, now that I know that the person who was overall responsible for this accident is now at Allegiant, I will never fly Allegiant under any circumstances. EVER. Nor will anyone I know, if I have anything to say about it!! Truly shocking and unbelievable that had you not posted this, I would have been completely unaware. THANK YOU!!! 🙏🏻

[@bobby1970]

Fly on any of the major airlines, and you should have much more safety standards compared to that airline.

[@Ferdrew-rp5ey]

👏💪😊 F Allegiant !!

[@christopherpericolosi-king4979]

I did not realize this either!!! No thank you!!!

[@collinjamesguitar]

@@bobby1970Did you hear about all of those Allegiant hull loss incidents where people lost their lives? Oh. There aren’t any. I’ve flown Allegiant probably 50-60 times in the last 10 years and have not a single negative experience. It’s 2023. Their whole fleet are A320’s. I would much rather fly on an A320 than a Boeing these days. 10000%. Just look at the 737 Max.

[@bobby1970]

@@collinjamesguitar I'm not going to take a chance on any airline that has had multiple major safety violations and incidents in the past, regardless of the type of aircraft they fly. They may be safer now than what they were, but it would take a long while before they could earn my trust.

[@dex1lsp]

Thank you for exposing that criminally negligent killer at the end there. His name is Maurice J. Gallagher Jr.

[@JoePez]

My mom had a co-worker on that flight. So sad how quickly you can have someone you know or love disappear

[@juliemanarin4127]

Truly is 😢

[@valeriebyers7405]

My boyfriend and I were in Ft. Myers FL when this happened. He was a mechanic for ValuJet and we had flown on the airline many times, including Ft. Myers. I remember our pagers going off like crazy from both our families and friends. We flew just about every weekend to Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Savannah and sometimes we wouldn't be able to get where we planned on but just always ended up somewhere. Nobody knew if we were on that flight. I am still devastated by this crash. My heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families. 2 weeks before this crash, we had flown with Capt. Kubeck to Savannah Ga. She was a great Captain, very kind and professional. RIP to all the victims 🙏🤍🕊️✝️

[@kristita_888]

Oh my gosh. I love right by an airport that is a hub for Allegiant. I had NO IDEA that the former CEO of Value Jet now runs Allegiant. I will never be able to look at one of their aircraft quite the same way again. 😣

[@melatoninqueen6914]

That’s why I won’t fly Allegiant, the only airline I’ll fly domestically is Southwest.

[@bmm760036]

I’d consider moving. Who knows how many emergency landings they’re having to execute out of that hub.

[@Tran3x72]

@@melatoninqueen6914 for me flair

[@Sashazur]

In every other thing I’ve ever read or seen about this crash, this is the first time I saw someone explain how the oxygen generators actually work!

[@deeznutz4962]

the tv show ''air disasters'' covered this crash too

[@redpillfreedom6692]

@@deeznutz4962 And "Seconds From Disaster"

[@fizzys26]

Delta flew DC9’s into the 2010’s. An old but well maintained plane can still be safe. This crash was just so unnecessary. Edit: Thanks for the heads up with Allegiant. Now I know to avoid them.

[@GoogleGebruiker]

B717 and MD-80's probably.

[@michaelbrodsky]

Candi Kubeck was a graduate of Metropolitan State College, Denver, CO, where my friend and first flight instructor, Tanya Gatlin is a tenured professor in the Aeronautical Engineering Dept. Tanya is a graduate of the Airforce Academy, holds a PhD in Aeronautical Eng, was a member of the Space Shuttle program til the end, holds several state and national aerobatics records and … I could go on. Candi was no bullshit either. There is a memorial scholarship fund in her name at MSC. Say a prayer.

[@homersimpsonsfatguyhat9541]

I remember this, TWA Flight 800 happened not long afterwards. 1996 was the bloodiest year in aviation in over a decade.

[@nickolashogg259]

I have heard of the disaster but never new how sad it truly was.

[@LeolaGlamour]

My mom loved value jet, she still till this day defends them. Im like we were flying in a death trap!

[@ajorbista]

They acquired another airline shortly after, but they assumed their name because Valujet had a bad reputation. So they became AirTran, which was the safest in the US until Southwest acquired them.

[@pancakeprince3439]

The only budget/ultra-low cost airline I fully trust is Southwest Airlines. Every other one is just so sketch to me. I first found out about this incident from an episode of Seconds From Disaster. Excellent video, I always look forward to your uploads! I appreciate how to-the-point you get, explaining everything so well without taking an hour to do so like other shows.

[@LeolaGlamour]

Spirit and even Frontier are pretty safe just annoying.

[@mrkipling2201]

EasyJet aren’t too bad.

[@indielixir100]

I’m flying southwest in a few weeks

[@melatoninqueen6914]

Me too, I have had nothing but pleasant experiences with them and have never felt scared. They even allowed me and my mom to pre board due to my anxiety and mild autism. They actually have a really good safety record for a budget airline, or any airline for that matter. Way better than most big carriers

[@jibblehoe]

@@mrkipling2201 Yeah a lot of European low cost carriers are okay. That is except… one… Not naming anyone just that it starts with R and ends in yanair.

[@adotintheshark4848]

ValuJet's motto was "you get what you pay for"

[@ryanpham3308]

Sounds more like "Sit back, relax, and shut up."

[@HD_555]

​@@ryanpham3308 That's Fly US from gta 5 and that's a moniker of American Airlines

[@ChessieSystem1973]

ValuJet “We don’t think we ever said we’d be a good airline, in fact, go fly with a better quality airline like Singapore or Qatar”

[@whateveridc9825]

"He's currently the CEO of Allegiant Air" Ppl seems to ignore this-

[@arandomthing2489]

Yes! It’s Saturday! My favorite day of the week because of these videos!

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Awww thanks, glad you like them

[@Black-Sun_Kaiser]

Saturdays are the literal best

[@arandomthing2489]

@@DisasterBreakdown no problem!

[@arandomthing2489]

@@Black-Sun_Kaiser yeah I just woke up and saw this!

[@jasen3737]

@@arandomthing2489 So true!!!

[@andrewstanley903]

That was quick and scary. I couldn’t imagine a fire on the plane being a passenger,crew member, pilot , or captain.

[@ElijahLukeMusic]

RIP SEAN DEMETRIUS BAKER. I continue to play your music and it has helped me. Sorry to all on board😥😥😥

[@manuelvalentin2648]

Instead of ValueJet this airline should've been named 'Grim Reaper Air'.

[@oliviaaddams3454]

I was a small child when this happened and can remember seeing the accident on the news. It’s interesting to hear the details after all these years. RIP to all the victims.

[@sofiafitz4914]

Your videos are so amazing I'm so glad I found your channel!

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Thanks, welcome to the channel

[@GreatMewtwo]

This is but one of those strange stories that I remember because I was a little boy living in South Florida at the time. Only a few years ago did I realize how much of a tragedy it was. The only other reason I remember it was because TWA Flight 800 went down a few weeks later, and I remember watching it on the news right when the Miami CBS station took on the name WFOR. You have done good helping people understand a cautionary tale about putting profits before safety, even moreso because it hits home for me.

[@blerst7066]

2:48 If a maintenance crew you hired is taking a selfie at work, they're probably not fit for the job.

[@Twicken17]

I saw her too!

[@chickenpasta7359]

why? if the worker isn't assigned anything at the moment then whats the harm in just having a little fun?

[@mrkipling2201]

Watching this video, I didn’t realise how bad their safety procedures and safety record was. Talk about the management sticking their heads in the sand. A lot of the incidents are not just negligent but actually criminal. How were they able to run like that for so long??

[@EpicJoshua314]

Another tragic aspect of this story, In 1988, American Airlines flight 132, an Md-83, suffered an in-flight fire from improperly packaged hazardous materials while on approach into Nashville. The crew managed to safely land the plane and save the lives of all onboard. One of the recommendations by the NTSB was for all commercial passenger planes to be equipped with fire detection and/or fire suppression systems in the cargo hold. However, the FAA never implemented this until after the 110 deaths on Valujet 592 and as a result the Administrator of the FAA and the Secretary of Transportation were both fired.

[@objectionablechione]

With the state of that plane it's incredible no other valujet flights had crashed before that one. the extreme negligence is making me fucking shook

[@johnfisher7143]

I can’t think of anything more terrifying than being in a metal tube that’s on fire with no chance of escape. Those passengers knew they were going to die for a few minutes before they succumbed to the smoke. Can you imagine the panic and fear??

[@Jdn__0001]

Worker: Hey uh... are you sure you want to deploy this plane in the air? Both of it's fins are literally ripped off ValuJet: ..... *Looks fine to me!*

[@honolulu.spotter]

So true..

[@Katelyst]

I hope you see more subscribers soon. You do such a thorough job detailing these tragedies while also being respectful to the bereaved families and friends in your presentation. Not to mention, you actually narrate your videos, which I consider a bonus. :)

[@jennifercordova7229]

Two things I NEVER do: stay at "budget" hotels/motels. Or fly "budget" airlines. You get what you pay for.

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

if your hotel crashes in a field, something really has gone wrong.

[@kukuc96]

Budget airline doesn't necessarily mean cutting corners on safety. For example, you can criticize Ryanair for many things, but their safety record is not one of them.

[@Caedo12]

I’ve just found this channel and subbed because you’re doing such an amazing job with these videos. Great work, sir!

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Thank you I am thrilled you enjoy my content :)

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

eh, madam, not sir.

[@quiltingbear0712]

thank you for making this video. I was stationed near this crash when it happened. it was horrible horrible. those poor people.

[@kylehawkins3174]

It blows my mind these videos don't have 1mil + views. Amazing videos period.

[@cubeincubes]

I got chills when I saw “EMPTY” in quotations. Epic fail.

[@mattwhelan13]

if there is one service where going for the cheap option over quality isn't worth it it's flying. I'm amazed they got any passangers at all with that name, couldn't even spell value correctly

[@Sashazur]

Are you kidding? 😀 People almost always choose price over quality for everything including flying. If they didn’t, we would not have ended up with no legroom, bag fees, and a bag of peanuts for lunch.

[@mattwhelan13]

@@Sashazur there is a big difference by saving £20 or so on a slightly cheaper, but still perfectly reasonable flight and going with an airline that can't spell it's own name and has a logo that looks like it was made in MS paint by a 3 year old. The former promores healthy competition, keeps prices in check and improves the industry for everyone, the latter is not worth it.

[@bwktlcn]

BellSouth told us we couldn’t fly anything else if Valujet went there. It wasn’t just Valujet that didn’t care about their employees

[@liannebenn2097]

Of course they know how to spell. They were just saving money on paint!

[@gamma_dablam]

I don't see issue with the misspelling. It looks aesthetically odd with the extra e. They went for the sound rather than name, I think it's the least of the issues.

[@kellylingro3288]

I've been watching these videos for months now. I'm on vacation and my dad mentioned we were going to pass a crash memorial. Out of curiosity I did a random search for it on KZbin and low and behold this channel actually has a video for the crash.

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

what's your dad doing

[@SinaLaJuanaLewis]

You can't cut corners and be cheap when it comes to human lives. This is beyond evil and disgusting. 😭

[@javasrevenge7121]

Agreed.

[@emilyrox0217]

Wait…. FIFTEEN PERCENT of the airplane model was lost?? And no one was like “hey maybe this model of plane isn’t very safe”???

[@themobseat]

ValuJet: We value your money, but not your life.

[@Sideshownicful]

If you can find it, watch the "Mayday" episode for a quick insight on how hard the search for the black boxes was

[@tjopearson1004]

This airline had so many problems mentioned before the plane even crashed, I had to rewind it back a few times to hear them all again. 🥴🥺

[@vickiweber4718]

I work for an environmental waste management company. I want to talk to someone about this. I'd love to know what is done with the canisters today. Also, note to self: don't fly Allegiant

[@andreasfischer9158]

As far as I know, they have to be activated prior to transport. The chemical processes have then taken place and they contain essentially rock salt.

[@edenstyle7]

This channel is better than Air Crash Investigation.

[@AndyG94]

Not me binging this channel 2 weeks before a flight 😅😅

[@carlramirez6339]

2:24 "Boasted about how little they paid their workers". Holy cow, just when I thought I couldn't get more outraged about this story.

[@Saxutin]

I have feeling this channel will be big at some point. Maybe make videos about other accidents also.

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Next week....

[@shadymorsi4347]

aged like a fine wine

[@SlavaUkraini85]

i love your videos, not only because general telling, but also the scientific and aeronautical facts you provide! Please keep it up!

[@Grandreacer]

At the airport we just had discussion about flight 592 at it's sad that some made mistake about labeling all generators empty, btw it "was said" that tehy were indetifed as hazardous and there were missing alot of safety caps, so mechanics made some adjustments (cutting wires or taping them to casing) so that generators should bot go off, but when in flight alot of them went of getting hot and going ablaze. I apologize for my gramacy but i'm foreign country.

[@TorchMagick]

As a retired aviation professional,much of this is sadly familiar to me. Cost-cutting measures by idiotic,duplicitous management only results in innocent people paying the ultimate price, and that hasn't changed since Wilbur and Orville took to the skies. Thank God for those who stand against the suits and do the right thing. L L A P

[@juliemanarin4127]

I agree...money over lives

[@liarodriguez9119]

All this time I was relieved not to see any videos involving Miami but now there's this one and the one on the Florida airline, mannnn

[@nidharsanviswanathan9955]

This was a very informative video you mentioned stuff Mayday never did,but you forgot to mention that another plane crashed 6 kilometers away

[@springbok4015]

14:54 absolutely outrageous. This makes my blood boil.

[@tdestroyer1882]

Yay another amazing and informal vid keep up the great work

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Thanks! Will do!

[@wafikiri_]

There is a CSI Miami episode on this very accident.

[@kylus9255]

This channel is so underrated. Keep up the good work!

[@aus-reviews8462]

Never fly budget because the company is also on a budget when doing maintenance

[@desdicadoric]

Crazy there will still DC9s flying in the US in the late 90s

[@StephenLuke]

RIP To the passengers and crew of ValuJet Airlines Flight 592

[@mrkipling2201]

I remember this happening, it was the day after my 17th birthday. Horrible tragedy and, unfortunately, totally predictable.

[@GreatMewtwo]

I was 8 years old.

[@zephyrstrains2842]

I wasn’t a thing yet

[@mrkipling2201]

👍👍👍

[@Alb410]

Nick Fury: WELL WHATS NOT DAMAGED? Plane: AC is online.

[@melatoninqueen6914]

I understood that reference

[@bwktlcn]

I was supposed to fly Valujet from Atlanta to Miami for work the week before this happened. It was all over Atlanta that the military had pulled Valujet off their list of approved carriers due to safety. I went to my boss, begging to do anything else, another carrier, Amtrak, even renting a car and driving, but no, I was going on that plane or else. I get to Hartsfield, get to the plane and want to freak. There was a CRACK in the door frame on the outside, which the flight attendant said was a scratch in the paint - yeah, if a TRex had tried to board. My tray table was duct taped shut because the hing was broken, and there were two guys outside fiddling with an engine. They are trying to get the cowling back on, and it won’t go. There’s dark stuff all over the side of the engine. Finally, one of the guys starts kicking the cowling, then stops, shrugged at the other guy, and they climb down. My “ohcrapometer” is pegged at “run for your life.” I tell the flight attendant that I’d just received a call from home that a family member wasn’t doing well, and I needed to go. They let me off the plane - how upset I was was not faked, and since they were telling me everything was fine, I figured telling them a guy was cow kicking the engine wouldn’t bother them either. They all looked tired and worn out. So, I go to Delta and get a ticket on my own plastic, and have an uneventful flight. My boss is furious I didn’t stay on the plane, and made threatening noises “I am going to have to talk to the district manager about this.” Well, not half the problem you’d have had if that plane had crashed and my sister the lawyer had gotten her legal claws into you. I go back to work expecting to be written up, suspended, maybe even fired. The day before the meeting, Valujet went spinning into the Everglades. Meeting never happened, and the “Valujet or else!” rule was quietly dropped. Obviously the plane I got off of didn’t crash on that flight, but I never worked up the nerve to research and see if that was the plane that did crash not quite a week later. I don’t think I want to know for sure, but I think it was.

[@DatamasterCorporation]

Do you remember what time the departure was? Or the flight number? There might be a possibility of knowing what the reg was if you know one of those

[@Chris-nn3vu]

Cool story kid..

[@philvanderlaan5942]

My squadron flew DC-9s ( military designation C-9 Skytrain ) and they were maintenance pigs .

[@rayc9539]

Hey can you do TWA 800? That was the most infamous US aviation disaster, afterall.

[@painful-Jay]

I lived in Orlando when this happened and my 7th grade math teacher announced that her brother in law was on this flight and she was going to be out for several days because of it. She was crying and very upset.

[@m.hstudioproductions6642]

She has my condolences.😞

[@chanxuhengclementips9248]

Maurice J. Gallagher, Jr. ceo of vaujet is Maurice J. Gallagher

[@rebeccarivers4797]

I have finally figured out what your background music reminds me of. It’s “The Light of the Seven” from Game of Thrones. Very appropriate for the themes

[@Lovuschka]

I think you meant the company was a planewreck, not a trainwreck. :-)

[@patburrell]

Tactless.

[@shabberplasm32]

Fantastic video as usual! Its also disgusting how that airline was never prosecuted and somehow that person is a CEO still.

[@InceRumul]

So the CEO of Valujet is now the CEO of Allegiant? That is too perfect.

[@islastewart4648]

can’t believe that ceo is still in the aviation business. disgusting

[@Dalton1294]

Today's the 25th anniversary of this tragic accident. The CEO of Allegant Air also owns a NASCAR team

[@honolulu.spotter]

Oh boy, what’s he gonna do? Crash 10 cars because the engine caught on fire and they didn’t do crap about it? Wouldn’t be surprised

[@tysonmadding8559]

I'm a trainer for an airline and this flight is in our training for dangerous goods of what not to do.....and the murderous CEO being the CEO of alligant makes complete sense

[@mikeletaurus4728]

Well produced. Thanks.

[@dontcaresaveit1862]

I was in Memphis when this crash happened and I had to fly Valuejet back to Atlanta the next day I was terrified I would have rented a car and driven back if it weren’t having to be back at work the following day.

[@gehtdianschasau8372]

That oxygen generators seem to be ideal tools for arson. Not only the combination of heat and oxygen, but also that delaying mechanism and the reliability.

[@Mnck01377]

4 minutes into the video and I already feel like ValuJet is the biggest aviation villain ever

[@andrewtaylor940]

No one was prosecuted at ValueJet because there was no crime there. Valujet's main failing in this was after providing training materials to their licensed certified subcontractor regarding the airlines hazmat policies, they failed to follow up and closely monitor the vendor. Most of the blame here fell heavily on the FAA. Who had stalled delayed and shitcanned the NTSB's recommendations to congress regarding air craft smoke and heat sensors and a cargo hold fire suppression system. All of the top level Directors of the FAA were fired for cause. A rare thing in government. Be very wary of all of the "reports" regarding massive safety issues at Valujet. Or placing the full weight of blame on them. These all come from the FAA and have a buit of an aura of self serving and blame shifting about them. Neither Congress nor the President believed what the FAA was saying. Because the FAA was very clearly at fault. The plane went down because the FAA completely failed to do what they had been given clear instructions from above to do 7 years prior.

[@mrkipling2201]

Weren’t the FAA sort of in cahoots with the airlines at the time?? They would make recommendations but wouldn’t enforce them too strictly due to costs?? I might be wrong but I’m sure I saw it mentioned on a documentary.

[@andrewtaylor940]

@@mrkipling2201 Well if by "At the Time" you mean "In the entirety of the FAA's history" then yes. The FAA has long served two masters. The Government and the Airline Industry.

[@mrkipling2201]

@@andrewtaylor940 has it been like that all the time?? I didn’t know that. I thought that with the current health and safety regulations on everything it might have changed. I suppose that when money is involved these organisations will do anything. I know it was like that some years ago. The ironic thing is they say we do everything with an eye on safety when it’s really an eye on money.

[@brianwong7285]

The recommendations for fire detection systems in cargo holds came after the inflight fire involving American Airlines Flight 132 just 8 years before Flight 592’s crash (February 3rd, 1988: hazardous materials including hydrogen peroxide caused a fire in the cargo hold but the MD-80 landed safely. That close scare prompted the suggestion that fire detection systems should have been installed in cargo holds.)

[@andrewtaylor940]

@@mrkipling2201 The conflict was baked in at the time of the FAA's creation. Their dual core goals of providing for, supporting and maintaining the infrastructure of air travel and their role as Air Travel Safety Oversight provider can frequently bump up against each other. I sometimes think some of the FAA's day to day Safety Oversight and Inspection duties might be better off to be handed over to a third party agency tasked exclusively with Safety oversight. Such as the NTSB.

[@ralphtkane1106]

A well researched and well produced video.

[@Charmedone9805]

Allegiant Air is pretty much valujet with a different name

[@johnmc3862]

You thought the DC-10 was bad, only to find out your on a DC-9.

[@Billo1281]

I remember after skateboarding in Downtown Miami, my friend and I were heading home on Metro-Rail going Southbound. I seen a huge plum of black smoke and jokingly said, man that must have been a airline crash with all of that smoke, especially out west. When I got home I found out. RIP in paradise to all. Terrible.

[@johnambrosia2604]

Never flown on Allegiant, however they have a ton of cheap routes out of my city and I’ve considered it. After hearing who the CEO is, I’ll stick to my normal United and Delta flights.

[@deann0385]

Fun fact: There is still a federal warrant out for one of the airline mechanics. Apparently, he may have been the one who mishandled the cargo

[@melatoninqueen6914]

The sad thing is that this accident was preventable, if the shipping company had packed the generators properly, the airline hadn’t cut corners and the plane had smoke detection/fire suppression systems in the cargo hold. Those 110 people would still be alive, it’s horrifying that companies don’t care about people’s safety

[@murringo9]

Packing hazardous and flammable items in cardboard boxes. What the...

[@klawlor3659]

What could do wrong 😮?!

[@Trampus002]

I can’t understand the horror of this. How could this happen? It’s not the money, but the love of money that drives this type of no concern for life. Evil people!

[@andrewtaylor940]

That’s the thing. This accident really wasn’t about cost cutting. It was about simple stupid sloppiness that happens everyday, at a level so far down near the bottom of the chain of command, that nobody notices or ever corrects it. Yeah management and safety regarding hazardous materials is important. But down at the bottom, the guys sweeping out the hanger and boxing up the leftover parts have no idea what is or isn’t hazardous. Because it so often is things you just don’t think about. Modern cell phone batteries for example. In the case of those Oxygen canisters, unless you had deep specific working knowledge of how they worked, it would never occur to you. If the boss said pack that expired shit up and send it back to the client, okeedokee! And it’s a problem that will only get worse over time.

[@charlotteinnocent8752]

I love your opening sentence. Truer words never spoken!

[@TheYottaTube]

Very interesting Sir! Maybe you can do a video about El Al Flight 1862.

[@DisasterBreakdown]

I will be doing that at some point. I am waiting for the 747-200 for X-plane flight simulator which I hear is supposed to release sometime soon. That is an incident I really want to cover.

[@TheYottaTube]

@@DisasterBreakdown Good to hear that. I am looking forward to it.

[@rubyexotic]

great video as always man. love the new illustrations that you put in your recent vids!

[@CassassinCatto]

I think this inspired the first episode of CSI: Miami, actually called "Pilot."

[@kyleshiflet9952]

Which is my favorite episode of CSI MIAMI

[@Trampus002]

I think I remember that from years ago. Wouldn’t it have been earth shattering if CBS had gotten into the real reason the tragedy really happened? A truthful, investigative CSI show. David Caruso putting the CEO of Value Jet in handcuffs.

[@hbkba185]

Appreciate for the info in the last part.

[@evagabor5]

Very sad. I liked their little livery although, the little smiling airplane.

[@Limp-Noodle]

Back in the 90's my ex worked in the call center for Value Jet. They went from 100 to 0 over night.