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Category 7 CSW12-500D2 XMAX 12" Dual 2Ω 500w Subwoofer - T/S Parameters

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Charcoal Monkey

Charcoal Monkey

3 жыл бұрын

Here's a very popular, yet, another undocumented car subwoofer from Category 7 at your local disposal. As some will theoretically says these subwoofers were underrated at 500w RMS but can blast open at 1400w peak. Let's find out.
Category 7 or C7 as their trademark logo, a locally marketed car audio components brand. Overall build feels and looks durable and efficient. They cost very reasonable too. The only downside is that these subwoofers do not come with a user's manual or any documentation in its packaging nor any website information. So, in this particular video, we are going to unbox and measure all the thiele/small parameters of Category 7 CSW12-500D2 XMAS. A very in-demand 12" car subwoofer in the local market for professional and amateur car audio installers alike. Available in dual 2 or 4 Ohms configurations.
00:10 - Unboxing the product.
01:10 - Preparing Dayton Audio DATS v3 and plugging in to PC.
01:50 - Individual voice coil parameters measured.
02:10 - Wiring the coils in parallel.
02:25 - Parallel and General parameters measured.
02:35 - Measuring subwoofer piston from edge to edge. This data will be used together with the added mass in obtaining Vas, Mms, and SPL.
03:10 - Vas, Mms and SPL in every coil configuration is now obtained.
03:50 - Finally, wire the coils in series and click that impedance sweep button!
04:00 - All data is now completely documented.
You can now "properly" design boxes and enclosures for these very popular 12 inch subwoofer for any application. Be it for car or for even home theater sound systems.
I hope you may find this video very informative and I hope you design subwoofer boxes properly by calculating proper data using speaker box programs like WinISD, BassBox Pro, Bassta or even the very basic Box Port Design 2.2 free for Windows!

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@maxgeronimo3720
@maxgeronimo3720 3 жыл бұрын
I inputted your numbers into a quick and dirty online enclosure calculator and the results were an f3 of 17.99Hz in a 3.49 cub. foot Butterworth B4 ported box. That sub goes low!!! Will try WinISD later and see if I get the same results. Really hoping you get a chance to derive TSP on a C7 CSW15 500 XMAX. I’m seriously considering them after seeing what the 12” XMAX can do! As usual, awesome work! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the feedback. Documenting these speakers is some sort of a needed impulse and I am glad that you find these data somewhat useful. And I do hope that the general public will finally learn how to design and build enclosures properly because there are only a few who can. 😂 And yes, I am currently building a box for this sub and having an F3 of 25.94Hz in a 2.35 cubes slot port box.😎
@maxgeronimo3720
@maxgeronimo3720 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrclmnky definitely useful and much appreciated! 🙏
@gbdatwister114
@gbdatwister114 3 жыл бұрын
I wish if in Brazil I had these subwoofer!
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, what subwoofers are available there?
@laurenzspeakergm9979
@laurenzspeakergm9979 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool I love it. 👍
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@libin6127
@libin6127 3 жыл бұрын
Bro Master is back 🙏♥️♥️♥️😍 Jbl cs1400wsi dm 🤪🤪🤪🤪 Fan from India
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
🤘
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt
@amdomag
@amdomag Жыл бұрын
Medyo mataas pala ang Fs nito. Thanks for sharing.
@marianodamiandavalosguille7711
@marianodamiandavalosguille7711 3 жыл бұрын
Hello brother, we have a lot in common, I handle the Data V3 with the same signature, and I also calculate I manufacture speakers, I have doubts about the parameter measurement process, I hope you can solve my doubts, I have investigated and before using the Dats it is required of the (break it) of the subwoofer loosen the suspension or have it working for at least 8 hours so as not to have false measurements, another point that I observed in your video was that you measured the Vas with metal objects, this affects the measurement since they generate certain magnetism when placing them in the center of the cone, and the elevation of the sub woofer, it is important to leave the sub raised and that the air flows under the coil, and finally, how did you get the Xmax, where could you get that data from? ... thanks Bro for your videos continue with your dedication I find them relaxing and educational ... greetings.
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Mariano. Thanks for pointing out the metal weights being affected by the magnet. I will try to use not metals and see the difference soon. Don't worry about the speakers venting when being tested. I tilt the speakers and have to put something so venting is promoted when running impedance sweeps. For me I'd like to see the values and parameters of a brand new speaker straight out of the box instead of breaking it in first. No, I haven't tested Xmax. And don't know any methods of testing xmax. It's just the brand trademarks "Xmax" of this particular product.
@manpreetmani97500
@manpreetmani97500 3 жыл бұрын
I like your dogs
@Huwaki65
@Huwaki65 3 жыл бұрын
Excited for the build!
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Yes am currently building a box for this sub. 😁
@jeromegalvez7952
@jeromegalvez7952 2 жыл бұрын
sir mas mataas po ba watts ng subwoofer mas maganda?
@italoguimaraes9935
@italoguimaraes9935 Жыл бұрын
I from to Brasil! , thanks.
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky Жыл бұрын
Hello Italo, cheers from the Philippines. 🥳
@alexanderolaesll4097
@alexanderolaesll4097 3 жыл бұрын
Lakas nyan 👌
@akolngto9314
@akolngto9314 3 жыл бұрын
Sir pwd po makahingi ng sukat nyan? Yan din kc ang plano kong bibilhin this coming dec20. Bali yung inches lng po mju madaling maiintindihan ko salamat po. Xmax d12 csw500
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Will upload a build on this very soon so stay tuned for that. Be sure to hit that subscribe button. 😁
@akolngto9314
@akolngto9314 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrclmnky hahah daan nmn kung nag subscribe boss. Gi unsubcribe nko naw balik tas balik para makita nmo na ga subscribe jud.😁
@joben0129
@joben0129 9 ай бұрын
sir lightning lab 1xl 12" 500w rms dual 2Ω test parameters naman po
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 9 ай бұрын
Good day po sir, yes sir as soon na may magpapagawa gamit ang 1XL siguradong ma kunan natin ng parameters.
@dadathegreat9910
@dadathegreat9910 3 жыл бұрын
Lightning lab 2xl or category 7 csw12 500 d2? Naguguluhan ako pumili.. help po.. ty
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Lightning Lab 2XL po yung new model na naka ribbed ang rubber surround. Napakaganda and napakalakas nun. Mura pa.
@bhadx365
@bhadx365 2 жыл бұрын
Sir ano mas malakas, dalawang xmax 500 40hm wired @1 ohm or isang xmas 1k 2ohm wired @1ohm?
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@bhadx365
@bhadx365 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrclmnky thank you boss. Will get 1 pc 1k
@eremundo
@eremundo 3 жыл бұрын
boss please do a sundown audio subs please...
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Sundowns are overrated. 🤣
@ramiepeconada7938
@ramiepeconada7938 Жыл бұрын
Bos 1pcs nyan kaya ba yan e drive ng category 7 CSA 1OOO.1?
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky Жыл бұрын
Yes sir pwede lamg. Pero mas sakto if at least 1500w na amp
@tagakatayberdugo6208
@tagakatayberdugo6208 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, sakto lang ba ang CATEGORY 7 CSA1000.1 sa XMAX 500?
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 2 жыл бұрын
Kulang, dapat mga 1500w at least
@tagakatayberdugo6208
@tagakatayberdugo6208 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrclmnky LL 1500.1F sir full range? Ok ba sya
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 2 жыл бұрын
@@tagakatayberdugo6208 kana pwede na
@tagakatayberdugo6208
@tagakatayberdugo6208 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrclmnky salamat boss 🙏
@rowencasanova
@rowencasanova 3 жыл бұрын
Sir dito ako sa Quezon City, saan ba bilihan ng legit C7 2xl 10”?
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
C7 2xl? Lightning lab 2xl siguro 😂
@11nivre
@11nivre 3 жыл бұрын
Goodday sir. In series connection, meron po bang factor yung about sa polarity sa first layer or second layer ?
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Yes polarity is very significant in any circuit. You will know your polarity through the speaker's cone direction. Or you can use polarity tester.
@11nivre
@11nivre 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrclmnky how about the layer each coil?
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
@@11nivre What would layer has to do with the polarity?
@alexanderolaesll4097
@alexanderolaesll4097 3 жыл бұрын
Soundcheck naman dyan 😁
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Data sheet pa lang ala pa box. Once may box na pwede nang mapalaban.
@lancesmack9801
@lancesmack9801 3 жыл бұрын
could you build me a box for 2 kiker comp 12s
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Sure.
@amabellepilapil3709
@amabellepilapil3709 3 жыл бұрын
Sir ano po ba pinag kaiba ng mababang hz sa mataas salamat po sa sagot
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Efficiency
@amabellepilapil3709
@amabellepilapil3709 3 жыл бұрын
Pag mababa po ba ang hz mas malambot ang tunog at malayo inaabot ng tunog ty po
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
@@amabellepilapil3709 Yes correct.
@amabellepilapil3709
@amabellepilapil3709 3 жыл бұрын
Pag maliit po ba ng port dun makukuha un mababang hz salamat po sa lahat n sagot
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
@@amabellepilapil3709 you need to use a box building program for the port sizing. You don't just guesstimate your work.
@dj-fonzioco824
@dj-fonzioco824 3 жыл бұрын
Boss pa gawa ka na aeroport box para sa csm12d2
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Ok will do.
@dj-fonzioco824
@dj-fonzioco824 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrclmnky thanks 😆
@rolandmendoza5953
@rolandmendoza5953 3 жыл бұрын
500 rms ba yan idol or 700rms
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
500
@rolandmendoza5953
@rolandmendoza5953 3 жыл бұрын
Box plzz
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir on the next video upload.
@Tambay_Lifestyle
@Tambay_Lifestyle 3 жыл бұрын
first
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 3 жыл бұрын
very good.
@swift8029
@swift8029 3 жыл бұрын
1 ez
@ramiepeconada7938
@ramiepeconada7938 Жыл бұрын
Bos 1pcs nyan kaya ba yan e drive ng category 7 CSA 1OOO.1?
@chrclmnky
@chrclmnky 11 ай бұрын
Hindi po, you need at least 1500w
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